RE: Raw Milk - Submission to Health Canada
Lloyd, This is the first time I heard of A2 milk. It didn't come up when I was reviewing the literature. The casein variants merit more research. From what I read, the correlation between A1 milk and coronary heart disease and Type 1 diabetes comes from studies in areas where different casein variants predominate. As with all epidemiological studies, I wonder if alternative explanations have been eliminated. I also wonder if there are business interests involved, especially since patents are held on the A2. If the A2 hypothesis is valid, it adds to the argument that individuals who wish to consume raw milk should have the right to access it from a producer of their choice. Informed individuals will select milk produced for human consumption (as opposed to pooled milk from many cows/farms intended for pasteurization) from pastured cows. They could then select a source with breeds that produce A2 milk. Do you know of anybody who has been testing A1 and A2 milk radionically? Interestingly, the raw milk that I get comes from a Guernsey cow raised biodynamically. From the references, the Guernsey yields A2 milk. Tested on myself and my son radionically, this milk increases our vitality, while pasteurized organic milk from the store does the opposite. I have to find a pastured milking Jersey cow (A1 milk) and do the same test. Virginia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lloyd Charles Sent: March 31, 2003 11:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Raw Milk - Submission to Health Canada - Original Message - From: Virginia Salares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:17 PM Subject: Raw Milk - Submission to Health Canada http://www.magma.ca/~ca/rawmilk/submission.htm Virginia Salares Hi Virginia Are you aware of the health implications involved in the A2 milk issue?? - Google search 'A2 milk' for more info. Cheers Lloyd Charles
Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils
I do recommend your pipe. Phil Wheeler installed one at a consultation I did the day after I left. I endorsed it and will work within the parameters of these farmers wishes. They need to cover 2500 acres and they want good results. They have been 25 years no till and want to see more improvements. I have been asking you for some years to make a hand stirred reagent/malcom-rae card/fb reagent. Has that been done??? I even gave you some of my bc with 500-508, any report or use of it? I highly respect what you are doing and will take up radionics and field broadcasting in the near future when I feel I have my current ducks in a row. I ask you to make this stirred water reagent because you have the experience to see the difference, I would need to start from scratch, we don't have the luxury of that kind of time. And as for stirring time I think the hour number was tossed out there by Rudy. With the stirring machine you can observe the patterns in the water more readily than with hand stirring. I have prepared 500 and 501 in about 10-15 minutes. I have done this on properties that have never had an application with a one hour stir and have achieved obvious results. I have done this with water that has never been heated, cold out of the ground and you get results. There have been many impedences placed by dogmatic/armchair anthropop farmers to prevent folks from stirring the easy way. The making of the bd preps is an elevation of matter. The harvest of the sheathe material, the plant material, the marriage of the two, the human interaction, imagine a bd raised cow with proper feed and care and love and bd plants, then making them into these preparations, wow. Spirit and matter, that is what the man was talking about. Someone out there using radionics and field broadcasters please try making a stirred water preparation for these instruments, it would be ashame to wait for me to do it. Keep up the great work... SStorch
Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils
In a message dated 4/2/03 1:16:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know soil conservation used to recommend bentonite for repairing leaky dams and I thought I had heard of a calcium bentonite is there such a thing ? Maybe my ears were ringing at the time. Calcium bentonite is what Greg Willis uses for horn clay. I use it for clay preps and tree paste... sstorch
Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils
In a message dated 4/1/03 9:36:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeez, Storch! Why not put your clay in a horn? What's the problem? Afraid it will get some cosmic forces? I use clay/manure or clay silica, I use clay caps in 500 and 501, I am ot really sold on horn clay. Is the horn really the right sheathe??? The Herbe clay prep goes inthe bovine esophagus... sstorch
Fwd: Vitality and fertility ofsoils
At 5:28 AM -0500 1/4/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I am glad to here that you will get around to actually doing some realm of the living spraying. When you make your cards are the preps right out of the ground or are they stirred? How can you introduce the stirring process to radionics and field broadcasting? Is there a stirred water card??? Keep on... SStorch Good on you Steve. (I would have sent this to BDNow but am blocked from posting there these days). All the preps Steiner gave us to work with were real physical substances. (not all living as such, e.g. silica, etc.) but material substances. He could have given us voodoo, magic, prayer, but he didn't. We are working in the physical world, our job is to bring the spiritual into the physical. No spirit without matter No matter without spirit... regards -- Graeme Gerrard [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- At 5:28 AM -0500 1/4/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I am glad to here that you will get around to actually doing some realm of the living spraying. When you make your cards are the preps right out of the ground or are they stirred? How can you introduce the stirring process to radionics and field broadcasting? Is there a stirred water card??? Keep on... SStorch Good on you Steve. (I would have sent this to BDNow but am blocked from posting there these days). All the preps Steiner gave us to work with were real physical substances. (not all living as such, e.g. silica, etc.) but material substances. He could have given us voodoo, magic, prayer, but he didn't. We are working in the physical world, our job is to bring the spiritual into the physical. No spirit without matter No matter without spirit... regards -- Graeme Gerrard [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message---
Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils
Dear Steve, Okay, next time I stir 500 and 501 I'll make the stirred cards. I'm sure Wendy didn't stir before making the cards. Just incidentally, the most beautiful vortices I've ever seen in stirring were in barrels stirred by Greg Willis. His method was a meticulously prepared pole supported by a tripod and stirred in wine casks. Really beautiful vortices. I don't know how one could duplicate them with machine stirring. I wish you could have seen it, and if you ever get a chance to see someone stir by Greg's method, do so. Best, Hugh I do recommend your pipe. Phil Wheeler installed one at a consultation I did the day after I left. I endorsed it and will work within the parameters of these farmers wishes. They need to cover 2500 acres and they want good results. They have been 25 years no till and want to see more improvements. I have been asking you for some years to make a hand stirred reagent/malcom-rae card/fb reagent. Has that been done??? I even gave you some of my bc with 500-508, any report or use of it? I highly respect what you are doing and will take up radionics and field broadcasting in the near future when I feel I have my current ducks in a row. I ask you to make this stirred water reagent because you have the experience to see the difference, I would need to start from scratch, we don't have the luxury of that kind of time. And as for stirring time I think the hour number was tossed out there by Rudy. With the stirring machine you can observe the patterns in the water more readily than with hand stirring. I have prepared 500 and 501 in about 10-15 minutes. I have done this on properties that have never had an application with a one hour stir and have achieved obvious results. I have done this with water that has never been heated, cold out of the ground and you get results. There have been many impedences placed by dogmatic/armchair anthropop farmers to prevent folks from stirring the easy way. The making of the bd preps is an elevation of matter. The harvest of the sheathe material, the plant material, the marriage of the two, the human interaction, imagine a bd raised cow with proper feed and care and love and bd plants, then making them into these preparations, wow. Spirit and matter, that is what the man was talking about. Someone out there using radionics and field broadcasters please try making a stirred water preparation for these instruments, it would be ashame to wait for me to do it. Keep up the great work... SStorch Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
A1 and A2 milk
Folks - can I be the only one who hadn't heard of A1 and A2 milk until now? Someone please explain... ! Tony NS. _ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browsepgmarket=en-gbXAPID=74DI=1059
Re: Question for Hugh: Growing Ginger
Dear Hugh - You gave me a lot of cultural information about growing ginger at ACRES. I've finally got around to buying a couple of cases of it from the local food co-op. Something I was wondering was if you thought that here in the Northern Virginia area I might be better off planting it in a hoophouse rather than in the open. Hoophouse will be ventilated but temperatures will run around a hundred on most sunny days. Thanks -Allan Dear Allan, Having never tried it in a hoop house, I can't say. But I know ginger is grown in southern Ontario and in British Columbia as a commercial field crop. Big oriental population in Canada and blond, juvenile ginger brings a good price. So if they can grow it in Canada, I can't see any problem with growing it in Virginia. Best, Hugh Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
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Notes form the science world - West Nile and pagers
Hi folks, Just an intersting note on some recent results of a study on West Nile Virus. As for most of science, their data is great, but they ususally miss the point: A masters student at U of Illinois was studying crows during the WNV season by radiotracking them. By the end of the season HALF of them had died from WNV - indeed an incredibly low survivial rate (abstract below). Question: Do radio beacons on your body make you more susceptible to viruses? I'd say it looks that way...hmmm. Of course they didn't consider that possibility. Cheers, Chris Abstract: The effects of West Nile Virus (WNV) on naïve host populations of North American wild birds are unknown, but potentially significant. We monitored survival of American Crows in east-central Illinois from February October 2002, at the leading edge of the 2002 WNV outbreak in North America. Nearly half of our radio-marked crows were recovered dead and confirmed to have WNV during the active transmission season; this mortality translates into an unusually low survivorship for this species. The rate of mortality was correlated with the onset and prevalence of the disease in local mosquitoes that were sampled near crow roosts. This study is the first report of a direct link between the occurrence of WNV in vectors and high mortality in a population of North American avifauna. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com
Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils
Dear Steve, I don't know if I have missed something, but what would you perceive as the essential difference between broadcasting from an egg filled with compost teas and preps etc, compared to a Hugh Lovel field broadcaster or using a radionic instrument such as a Bruce Copen, Don Mattioda, Rae or Kelly? The great advantage of radionic instruments is in the realm of analysis. There is no comparable method for making comparisons between different strategies before you use them. Many times I have found that the use of a particular BD preparation would actually decrease soil vitality. How do you work out whether homoeopathically potentised sea water will be a better ionising agent to induce cleaning up of the ether than BD preps. It is obvious that you see merit in being able to broadcast without actually having to cover the ground. So at least we are all on common ground with that one. The next question is how to measure the effectiveness of the broadcast. the only reliable and cheap method is to use the most sensitive of all instruments, the human body. This sensitivity of the human body is the basis of Radionics and Dowsing. You are obviously using the sensitivity of your antennae system to be able to declare unequivocally that the range of your broadcast mechanism is exactly 12000 feet. Is this an arbitrary estimation or do you have an internal measurement system that is able to measure exactly 12000 ft? When I set out to define the edge of a broadcast field it is only possible for me to roughly guess what the distance is, or to use my pendulum to find the distance. The most common question which beginners will ask about BD is 'how do I know if it is working'. How do I know what preps to use and when without having to rely on a cook book solution from whoever is in as the Guru of the day. Radionics and Dowsing can tell you this. They are tools which can enable a person to find what is happening in the natural realm of subtle energies, and it is in the realm of subtle energies that we must delve to be able to judge radionics. Man does not make the energies that are used in radionics, as he does not make the energies that he detects or utilises with his antennae system. They are already there and mankind uses them or focuses them towards what he desires. You do not create the mechanism for electro magnetic wave propagation which is being used to broadcast the energies from your amphora, you are only using the phenomena to be able to focus energy and transmit it where needed. I perceive from previous posts a difficulty in reconciling your world view of substances as being either alive, or not alive. My world view is that everything is alive therefore I can't see such a dynamic system as homoeopathy as producing dead substance. The favoured method in Australia is to use Electronic Homeopathy to prepare reagents for radionic transmission. The only debate that I can see with the use of radionics is 'what are the force fields being created from our instruments and are they having the effect that we desire? That is the subject for another post. The use of homeopathic preparations has been discussed many times so I do not need to elaborate further except that RS obviously saw that there could be benefit in this method. Kolisko's research also confirmed this view. To compare research methods, results and observations of broadcast mechanisms without the angst which at times is passed off as discussion will open up a whole new line of discussion. Just for the record we are now into our fifth year of using BD preps, both hand stirred and radionically prepared and sprayed out. Radionic broadcast by various means has also been used. On the criteria of having put the preps out for more than 2 years I am able to discuss the subject from any angle because I have done it. Kind regards James Hedley - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:37 PM Subject: Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils In a message dated 3/31/03 11:02:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heck I'm not trying to convert you guys to radionics you have no need of it - just see our side of the story - and try to appreciate why we (or some of us) are so interested in these other ways of doing things. Cheers Lloyd Charles What about an egg shaped urn buried in the earth, the one I have has a 12,000 foot influence on the farm and surrounding area. I fill it with teas of 500, bc, 501 508, nettles, etc...sstorch
Re: Raw Milk - Submission to Health Canada
- Original Message - From: Virginia Salares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:16 PM Subject: RE: Raw Milk - Submission to Health Canada Lloyd, This is the first time I heard of A2 milk. It didn't come up when I was reviewing the literature. The casein variants merit more research. From what I read, the correlation between A1 milk and coronary heart disease and Type 1 diabetes comes from studies in areas where different casein variants predominate. As with all epidemiological studies, I wonder if alternative explanations have been eliminated. I also wonder if there are business interests involved, especially since patents are held on the A2. Hi Virginia It seems this is a kind of David and Goliath struggle coming out of the new zealand dairy industry , David in this case a pretty powerful businessman with the largest dairy operation in the southern hemisphere - still no match for the vertically integrated dairy conglomerate/co-operatives around the world. There will always be business interests involved in food distribution and production, its a monster business and the markups are astronomical, the food industry turns its stock over more often than any other retail sector, yet manages to screw markup margins that are rivalled only by the high fashion jewellery people. If the A2 hypothesis is valid, it adds to the argument that individuals who wish to consume raw milk should have the right to access it from a producer of their choice. Informed individuals will select milk produced for human consumption (as opposed to pooled milk from many cows/farms intended for pasteurization) from pastured cows. They could then select a source with breeds that produce A2 milk. Do you know of anybody who has been testing A1 and A2 milk radionically? Dont know about this - I have (cynically) taken the view that its all crap, but I need something to moisten the cereals for breakfast and water just dont taste right, so we buy cheap, occasionally splurging on unhomogenised BD milk, but I am unconvinced on that too, it comes from hundreds of miles away, and is still pasturised. Cant be bothered with a milking cow for us three adults but if a neighbour milked would try to buy from them. Interestingly, the raw milk that I get comes from a Guernsey cow raised biodynamically. From the references, the Guernsey yields A2 milk. Tested on myself and my son radionically, this milk increases our vitality, while pasteurized organic milk from the store does the opposite. I have to find a pastured milking Jersey cow (A1 milk) and do the same test. From the info we saw on the TV show about this a quite reasonable percentage of jerseys milk A2, also it appeared that crossbred cattle with beef bloodlines were a good bet. I agree with your sentiments on this - raw milk from grazing cows has got to be the best. There is a farmer on the north coast of nsw selling A2 milk - it will be interesting to see how this progresses - dont agree with the patent thing - how is it possible to get a patent on something natural - these people did not do anything to make the A2 protein they just identified something that was there all along - any patent application for things like this is garbage . Cheers Lloyd Charles
Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:34 PM Subject: Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils In a message dated 4/2/03 1:16:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know soil conservation used to recommend bentonite for repairing leaky dams and I thought I had heard of a calcium bentonite is there such a thing ? Maybe my ears were ringing at the time. Calcium bentonite is what Greg Willis uses for horn clay. I use it for clay preps and tree paste... sstorch Thanks Steve Instinct was taking me there but confirmation is nice. Cheers Lloyd Charles
Re: A1 and A2 milk
- Original Message - From: Tony Nelson-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 1:33 AM Subject: A1 and A2 milk Folks - can I be the only one who hadn't heard of A1 and A2 milk until now? Someone please explain... ! Tony NS. Tohy - the conventional dairy industry would like you to never hear about it - do a Google search for A2 milk - _ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browsepgmarket=en-gbXAPID=74DI=1059
Buddy, Can you paradigm?
The conventional farmer who manages the grass-fed beef at the farm I'm doing CSA at this season refuses to feed kelp free choice to deal with end-of-the-winter lice infestations on the steers because 'Well, you think that kelp is natural, but I'll tell you, there's nothing natural at all about beef eating seaweed.' What's the measured percentage of reduced mineral content in American pasture grass since first measured circa 1910? Isn't is something like 90 percent? One of the hardest things to wake people up to is what RS saw so clearly in the 1920s - the natural world is so depleted that serious supplementation is necessary to bring the nutritional value of 'natural food' up to 'natural levels.' AHS -Allan
Re: Notes form the science world - West Nile and pagers
avifauna! Oh, Chris, thanks for the new word!!! -Allan
Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils
In a message dated 4/2/03 4:42:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Steve, question: I don't know if I have missed something, but what would you perceive as the essential difference between broadcasting from an egg filled with compost teas and preps etc, compared to a Hugh Lovel field broadcaster or using a radionic instrument such as a Bruce Copen, Don Mattioda, Rae or Kelly? answer: James, according to Schauberger the egg shaped vessel exchanges energies with the earth and emits energies from what is within. The shape by itself promotes life, the womb is egg shaped, eggs are egg shaped, they contain life. During this soujourn in the egg in the earth the liquid in the vessel is imbued with the fructigenic energies of the earth and the egg shape further enhances. This is most likely similar to the energies that create the goodness in cow manure. If it is stirred for two to three consecutive evenings [by electric motor, emf's neutralized by the earth] and then sprayed out on the land this enhaces the soil energetically and therefore biologically. Possibly there is no difference between all of these contravances, it is simply my choice at this time. When I have things in order, I will take up radionics. Question The great advantage of radionic instruments is in the realm of analysis. There is no comparable method for making comparisons between different strategies before you use them. Many times I have found that the use of a particular BD preparation would actually decrease soil vitality. How do you work out whether homoeopathically potentised sea water will be a better ionising agent to induce cleaning up of the ether than BD preps.? answer When a problem or situation arises in the field I can make a judgement by asking myself a question as to how to solve it. At this point I can whip out the pendulum and consciously take a step back and remove myself from the decision making process and see what the pendulum says, or I may feel for the answer intuitively and instinctively and go with it. question: It is obvious that you see merit in being able to broadcast without actually having to cover the ground. So at least we are all on common ground with that one. The next question is how to measure the effectiveness of the broadcast. the only reliable and cheap method is to use the most sensitive of all instruments, the human body. This sensitivity of the human body is the basis of Radionics and Dowsing. You are obviously using the sensitivity of your antennae system to be able to declare unequivocally that the range of your broadcast mechanism is exactly 12000 feet. Is this an arbitrary estimation or do you have an internal measurement system that is able to measure exactly 12000 ft? When I set out to define the edge of a broadcast field it is only possible for me to roughly guess what the distance is, or to use my pendulum to find the distance. answer: I do not feel the necessity to measure and catalogue everything. I know it is important. I am looking at things like soil structure, earthworm activity, weeds. I have dowsed the broadcast distance as well as feeling the influence on the farm and seeig the way things respond when sprayed with preps with and without the egg filled. question: The most common question which beginners will ask about BD is 'how do I know if it is working'. How do I know what preps to use and when without having to rely on a cook book solution from whoever is in as the Guru of the day. Radionics and Dowsing can tell you this. They are tools which can enable a person to find what is happening in the natural realm of subtle energies, and it is in the realm of subtle energies that we must delve to be able to judge radionics. answer: Observation is the key to learning how these things are working, learninng to trust your eyes and instincts first, then I would see what the meter has to say. I would not start out in biodyn first with a meter. You will have your eyes all the time on the meter and not on Nature, the soil, the plant. Comprehend and copy Nature [Schauberger] Man does not make the energies that are used in radionics, as he does not make the energies that he detects or utilises with his antennae system. They are already there and mankind uses them or focuses them towards what he desires. You do not create the mechanism for electro magnetic wave propagation which is being used to broadcast the energies from your amphora, you are only using the phenomena to be able to focus energy and transmit it where needed. I perceive from previous posts a difficulty in reconciling your world view of substances as being either alive, or not alive. My world view is that everything is alive therefore I can't see such a dynamic system as homoeopathy as producing dead substance. answer: Yes everything is alive. There are positive and negative energies for each situation. You need to see what is right for
Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils
Hugh Lovel said he likes human-powered BD prep stirring that is done with a tripod stirrer over a barrell, the kind made by Greg Willis, that they made a real nice vortex. These were in use at Topolos Vineyard in Sonoma County. Slide #3 and #4 in the RealSlideShow on my farm home web page shows the tripod stirring device and the vortex, from the Biodynamic Viticulture Field Day at Topolos Vineyard a few years back when Hugh was teaching with Peter Proctor over at Steiner College. It's a Beautiful Day A RealSlideShow sampler http://www.ipa.net/~steved/audio/ Steve Diver
Re: A1 and A2 milk
Folks - can I be the only one who hadn't heard of A1 and A2 milk until now? Someone please explain... ! Tony NS. I've never heard of it either and would be interested to know more... -lucia
Re: Buddy, Can you paradigm?
From: Allan Balliett Subject: Buddy, Can you paradigm? The conventional farmer who manages the grass-fed beef at the farm I'm doing CSA at this season refuses to feed kelp free choice to deal with end-of-the-winter lice infestations on the steers because 'Well, you think that kelp is natural, but I'll tell you, there's nothing natural at all about beef eating seaweed.' You do have to wonder sometimes ? I suppose he thinks that when he pours that systemic fenthion backliner (or whatevers the latest cure) on his steers to clean up the lice, that none of it ends up in the meat ?
Fw: Marko Pogacnik
I posted this a few days ago but didn't see that it came through. - Original Message - From: Lance Howard To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:44 PM Subject: Marko Pogacnik Christy, I pasted the following from his website: USA, New York, perhaps also Washington, the plans are not ready yet. Period: October 1st to 16th The tour will be organised by my publisher Gene Gollogly, Booklight Inc., 1 Union Square West, Suite 201, New York, NY 10003, Tel:212-414-2275, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] , www.booklightinc.com His website: http://www.ljudmila.org/pogacnik/FrameSET1.html - Original Message - From: The Korrows To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:44 PM Subject: Re: an inspiring tid bit Hi Lance, No, but I would love to, where might he be coming in the US? Thanks, Christy - Original Message - From: Lance Howard To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:28 AM Subject: Re: an inspiring tid bit Speaking of Slovenia, I've been reading Marko Pogacnik, a communer with nature spirits and a practitioner of lithopuncture or earth healing. From what I have read he works on a smaller scale than necessary for what is apparantly needed in SE Australia (according to James Hedley). He has been resuscitating landscapes in Europe. His experiences concur with Steiner's description of the hierarchy of nature spirits. I'm particularly interested in how he has described fairies and devas "of place" and how such understandings might help define "farm organisms." He gives workshops (mostly in Europe) but may visit the US in Oct. 2003. Has anyone met or heard of him? Lance [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: USDA Survey + Bt crop discovery
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:44:42 -0800 From: News Update from The Campaign [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: USDA Survey + Bt crop discovery News Update From The Campaign to Label Genetically Engineered Foods -- Dear News Update Subscribers, The U.S. Department of Agriculture's National Agricultural Statistics Service has released their Prospective Plantings survey report for 2003. It includes the projected acreage that will be planted in genetically engineered crops this year. Unfortunately the percentages of acreage for both genetically engineered soybeans and corn are increasing. Genetically engineered soybeans will increase from 75 percent to 80 percent of the entire soybean crop. Biotech corn will increase from 34 percent to 38 percent and cotton will remain the same at about 70 percent. If you would like to view the USDA Prospective Plantings 35-page report, here is a link to the PDF version: http://www.thecampaign.org/USDA2003.pdf Since the 15 European Union nations and many other countries are not buying genetically engineered corn and soybeans grown in the United States, you may be wondering how farmers can continue to grow such large amounts of these biotech crops. The primary reason is that the vast majority of corn and soybeans grown in the United States go to feed livestock or are used in processed foods. Once we pass legislation to require the labeling of genetically engineered foods, these figures will drop rapidly. But until we are successful in passing the labeling legislation in the United States, we can expect biotech crop plantings to maintain at these levels or even slightly higher. In the short-term, our biggest concern about such a large amount of acreage being grown in genetically engineered crops is that organic crops, especially corn, are being contaminated with genetically engineered genes. It is irresponsible for the USDA to continue to allow contamination of organic crops from the genetically engineered varieties. The USDA is favoring the biotech industry at the expense of the organic industry. In the long-term, there is growing evidence that genetically engineered foods could cause various health problems in humans. And history will record that biotech crops can pose significant threats to the environment. Posted below are two articles. The first article titled U.S. Farmers to Grow More Biotech Crops is about the new USDA survey. The second article comes from a United Kingdom newspaper called The Independent. It is an article titled Insects thrive on GM 'pest-killing' crops. This alarming article reports that scientists from Imperial College London and the Universidad Simon Rodrigues in Caracas, Venezuela have found the toxins in genetically engineered Bt crops may actually make insects thrive rather than die. It has previously been reported that the toxic effect of Bt crops is losing its ability to kill insects. If it turns out that insects are actually able to adapt to the point where the Bt toxin becomes food for them, this will have significant negative ramifications for both the biotech and the organic industries. The long-term effect could be worse for the organic industry than the biotech industry since Bt used in spray form is one of the few weapons organic farmers have to battle severe insect infestation. The biotech industry will likely come up with another toxic to splice into their biotech crops. But organic farmers will be left without one of their most important tools to fight insects as a result of overuse of Bt by the biotech industry. It is ironic that the U.S. continues to grow the most genetically engineered crops in the world, yet is doing little research to determine their health and environmental safety. And in other countries that are not yet growing genetically engineered crops, they are conducting research in advance and finding disturbing results. Craig Winters Executive Director The Campaign to Label Genetically Engineered Foods The Campaign PO Box 55699 Seattle, WA 98155 Tel: 425-771-4049 Fax: 603-825-5841 E-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.thecampaign.org Mission Statement: To create a national grassroots consumer campaign for the purpose of lobbying Congress and the President to pass legislation that will require the labeling of genetically engineered foods in the United States. *** U.S. Farmers to Grow More Biotech Crops By EMILY GERSEMA .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - Europe's opposition to biotech food isn't stopping U.S. farmers from planting more genetically engineered crops. This spring, they're devoting fewer acres to growing corn and soybeans but intend to plant more biotech crops than ever - part of a growing trend, the Agriculture Department said Monday. ``This is only the fourth year that we've been tracking it, but from that, it is the highest it's been,'' said Darin Jantzi, a
healthstudies
Does anyone know of any health studies done on chemical farmers? If the negative effects of all the toxic sprays were to show up in one segment of the population it would be them. Not to mention the fact that they would also be inhaling all that genetically engineered pollen. I did hear one stat that serious prostate cancer was 50 times higher in chemical farmers
Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils
Charles and the list, I am interested in the possibility of trialing a number of clays. If I am using a clay, I would tend to go for either bentonite, or a commercially prepared pottery clay, simply because as a one time potter, I have prepared all the clay I want to do for the time and as a one time prospector I have located all the clay deposits I want to do for the time. It is so easy to buy it in a bag. But on my two hundred acres I am aware of many distinct clays with very different properties, that would have some part to play, if one was experimenting in this area and undoubtedly other properties would also have a number of distinct clays, each with unique qualities. How about doing the larger amount with your preferred clay and several of each type of lessor clay and then doing some dowsing on the end product and if possible some field trials Gil Lloyd Charles wrote: Steve Storch wrote I have to dis agree. If it is not done by the human hand where does the farm individuality arise from. Take ten minutes, stir the water and make the "reagent",, you owe it to yourself...sstorch OK Steve (and any others that would like to comment) - I'll try this - a couple of questions though - 1. will this stirred water hold the energy pattern long enough to use it in a vial in the broadcaster (weeks or months) - that doesn't work with stirred preps ? Otherwise I need to make your 'stirred water 'card. 2. three of us are putting down some horns (of 500) this weekend and I'd like to include some clay, you have some different ideas on clay - any suggestions ? these are some options :: bentonite - its easy but I'd rather use local paddock reared clay :: I have a nice maroon clay from our subsoil layer - sticky and extremely dense, mostly magnesium it comes from about 6 to 18 inches deep in the profile. :: a yellowish sticky but highly dispersive, high sodium clay from our deep subsoil :: black pond muck - you talked about this stuff a while back - its a black silty clay that settles in the bottom of our farm water storage dams - powerful stuff - very nutrient rich - has some humic material included from organic wash in 3. we will be doing this in a new pit - any suggestions to pre treat the pit for a better result - I'd thought to spray it out with stirred 500 before putting the horns in ? Line the bottom with good compost maybe? What else works? Thanks for any suggestions cheers Lloyd Charles
Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils
Charles and the list, I am interested in the possibility of trialing a number of clays. If I am using a clay, I would tend to go for either bentonite, or a commercially prepared pottery clay, simply because as a one time potter, I have prepared all the clay I want to do for the time and as a one time prospector I have located all the clay deposits I want to do for the time. It is so easy to buy it in a bag. But on my two hundred acres I am aware of many distinct clays with very different properties, that would have some part to play, if one was experimenting in this area and undoubtedly other properties would also have a number of distinct clays, each with unique qualities. How about doing the larger amount with your preferred clay and several of each type of lessor clay and then doing some dowsing on the end product and if possible some field trials Gil Lloyd Charles wrote: Steve Storch wrote I have to dis agree. If it is not done by the human hand where does the farm individuality arise from. Take ten minutes, stir the water and make the "reagent",, you owe it to yourself...sstorch OK Steve (and any others that would like to comment) - I'll try this - a couple of questions though - 1. will this stirred water hold the energy pattern long enough to use it in a vial in the broadcaster (weeks or months) - that doesn't work with stirred preps ? Otherwise I need to make your 'stirred water 'card. 2. three of us are putting down some horns (of 500) this weekend and I'd like to include some clay, you have some different ideas on clay - any suggestions ? these are some options :: bentonite - its easy but I'd rather use local paddock reared clay :: I have a nice maroon clay from our subsoil layer - sticky and extremely dense, mostly magnesium it comes from about 6 to 18 inches deep in the profile. :: a yellowish sticky but highly dispersive, high sodium clay from our deep subsoil :: black pond muck - you talked about this stuff a while back - its a black silty clay that settles in the bottom of our farm water storage dams - powerful stuff - very nutrient rich - has some humic material included from organic wash in 3. we will be doing this in a new pit - any suggestions to pre treat the pit for a better result - I'd thought to spray it out with stirred 500 before putting the horns in ? Line the bottom with good compost maybe? What else works? Thanks for any suggestions cheers Lloyd Charles
