Re: Fwd: farmers' market and farmer stories wanted
The farmers market in Santa Fe, New Mexico is really a fine one for a town of only 65,000 souls (plus many summer visitors). I am not sure who the most outstanding producers are, but there is organic beef and lamb as well as great produce. There must be a great master chili grower as you say! If this idea strikes you I could approach the farmer I work for to see about his contacts as he sells there on Tues. and Sat. market days. Would this likely be for PBS? Best, Tom Schley
Tomato Horn Worms.
Here's something I've noticed this year. We've had an invasion of tomato horn worms. The interesting thing is that none of the heirlooms have been touched yet, only the hybrids. On the other hand there is a rust or blight hereabouts that is attacking only the hybrids! Tom
Re: Cabbage Worm (?)reply
Thanks to all of you for your ideas on combating the worm. Am able to hand pick worms in home garden. The commercial garden is too big for this though. Just back from a day of hoeing (use a stirrup hoe, sometimes a wheel hoe) at the commercial organic farm I work on. As you say Sharon the skies are still beautiful here in northern New Mexico (now that the forest fires are under control no smoke) - large cumulus cloud masses forming overing the Sangre de Christo Mountain now, but looks like the rain will be restricted to the mountain tops again. Cheers, Tom hello thomas , i used to garden at several sites in northern n.m. about 25 years ago. what you have is cabbage worms (they are green ) you might be blessed as well someday by army worms they come in a sort of camo color.. we don't use b.t., though i think it is allowable on organic standards, because we want to be in control of what we use not depend on store bought prodocts. so what to do.. if you only have a small garden you can hand pick them (check for egg clusters under the leaves) also i've noticed that wasps (like the ones that sting)eat the worms, so get some wasps if you don't have some and try not to kill them if you do . they are your ally's in the worm war! say hi to the sky out there for me :)sharon - Original Message - From: Thomas Schley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 8:24 PM Subject: Re: Cabbage Worm (?) I'm in New Mexico - hot sunny days with cool nights. I've just found little eggs and a green worm about half an inch long on the leaves. Tom Where are you on the earth??? If it is hot and you are growing cool weather crops it could be flea beetles...SStorch
Re: Cabbage Worm (?)
I'm in New Mexico - hot sunny days with cool nights. I've just found little eggs and a green worm about half an inch long on the leaves. Tom Where are you on the earth??? If it is hot and you are growing cool weather crops it could be flea beetles...SStorch
Re: Frank Moody
Gil, we receive about 12 to 13 inches on average here, though less than 10 last year. Our soils can be very alkaline as you can imagine. The nearby high forest can have over 30 inches, mostly in the form of snow and much of the soil there is acidic. Here at lower elevations (6000 to 7000 feet) most of precipitation comes in the form of late summer thunder storms which brew almost daily over the mountains. Most of our snow is so dry that it brings little real moisture at this elevation, but does an important job of feeding the high watershed (8000 to 12000 feet) from which we eventually get our irrigation water. Thanks Tom, I think New Mexico may be like our conditions. We get twenty inches - 500 mm, between April/ May and October. The rain just stops in our spring and our grain g crops die not ripen. I was in England in their Autumn and could not get over the headers on the paddock with green flag on the grain. They are using dryers and we are wishing for rain to finish the crop. The actual rainfall is not that much different, but the evaporation is, we have six to nine feet of evaporation. Our soils are mainly highly alkaline, but mine are slightly acid. I think the largest area of Pinus radiata forests is in South Australia. All our housing here is built from it. It grows much better here than at home.
Fwd: [globalnews] EU, Canada May Demand Prescriptions forVitamins, Herbs
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: [globalnews] EU, Canada May Demand Prescriptions for Vitamins, Herbs Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 22:23:53 -0700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2002 05:23:53.0477 (UTC) FILETIME=[98CD8350:01C1CBE1] From: Curtis Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Global News [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [globalnews] EU, Canada May Demand Prescriptions for Vitamins, Herbs Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 07:56:13 -0500 BlankFrom Jean Hudon's globalvisionary mailing list: ... I'VE SEEN SEVERAL EMAILS ON THIS TOPIC. THE POSSIBLE TAKE OVER BY THE PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY OF VITAMINS AND HERBAL SUPPLEMENTS IN EUROPE IS LIKELY TO BE IMITATED WORLDWIDE ONCE THEY SUCCED IN LOCKING IT BY LAW IN EUROPE. SIMILAR NEW REGULATIONS ARE ALSO DISCUSSED NOW IN CANADA! Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 From: BILL D [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why the EU Wants To Restrict Dosages of Vitamins Hi Jean The good guys lose oneTHE FIGHT GOES ON PHARMACEUTICALS WIN ROUND ONE What I understand from the first information on the web is that the European commission has voted in favor of the Codex Alimentarius. What a shock. Any body else has the latest info? Sure the fight is not over. For extensive information from Dr. Rath see http://www.vitamins-for-all.org/german/default.html --- Why the EU Wants To Restrict Dosages of Vitamins (San Dimas, CA- USA) - The biological action of virtually every prescription drug can be duplicated with nutritional supplements, a fact that pharmaceutical companies want to keep hidden from the public. The therapeutic benefits of many vitamins, minerals and herbs are dependent upon dosage, which may be a chief reason why the European Union (EU) wants to restrict the dosage of essential nutrients in vitamin pills. Examples abound in regards to the therapeutic benefits of high-dose vitamins. For example, high-dose thaiamin-vitamin B1 (300 mg or more) has been shown to benefit patients with multiple sclerosis. High-dose riboflavin-vitamin B2 has been used effectively to remedy chronic migraine attacks. High-dose (1500+ mgs) niacin-vitamin B3 lowers cholesterol and may help in the treatment of schizophrenia. High-dose pyridoxine-vitamin B6 may help with mental depression. High-dose inositol may calm anxiety. High-dose vitamin B12 (1500+ mcgs) may resolve cases of insomnia, memory loss, false senility and nerve disorders. High-dose folic acid (800-5000 mcg) may prevent Alzheimer's disease, heart and blood vessel disease, and reduce the risk of birth defects. High-dose vitamin C acts as an anti-histamine and may thwart an allergy attack, prevent cataracts, replace the need for blood pressure lowering drugs, prevent kidney stones and gall bladder attacks. High-dose vitamin D (4000+ units) may normalize blood pressure, calm down autoimmune reactions, prevent bone thinning and block the growth of existing tumors. Under regulations being considered by the EU, non-essential food supplements such as lutein, green tea, ginseng, and other herbal products may be banned from use without a physician's prescription. The public's right to exercise self care, and to practice prevention, will take a step backward if the EU rules go into effect. The public will become more dependent upon over-priced prescription drugs which produce far more side effects than vitamins and herbal products. ... Be the change you want to see in the world. -- Mahatma Gandhi _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
Re: Watering the garden
I don't think we have any big ag farm pesticide problems up ditch from us, but you never know. We also have a pipe directly to the river (not viable in low water months) and a deep underground well. We'll do the best we can. Do you find using a pendulum useful in your farm work? Have you used to check hunches on water, seed and soil quality? I use one for checking vitamin supplements but not much else. After reading how so many of the list use one I think I'll have to practice dowsing on food, compost, and other practical matters. It's been great to receive inspiration from the list. Tom Probably not a problem in your area, Tom, but you have to watch irrigation ditch water as a possible source of highly contaminated runoff from your chemically managed neighbors. I read a study a while back that California farmers who were trash pumping 'lost water' on their off days (water that escaped from other farms and was fair game for other growers downstream to use even if it wasnt' their water day) were getting up to 3x as much insecticide as the maximum recommended dosages. Of course, since these insecticides were not 'applied,' it's presence didn't affect subsequent applications of more insecticides on the farm. -Allan Do you mean East Coast? Irrigation in the Spanish and pueblo Southwest of course pre-dates the Mormons by hundreds of years. T PS But, boy, do I wish that we had an irrigation system here on the west coast. Praise to the 19th cent Mormons, eh? m
Re: OFF:Re: Drought/Cistern
My father was raised in Allan's neighbourhood. His parents and his grandparents all lived in 18th and 19th homes with massive cisterns. The local limestone country provided great springs and spring houses for keeping food cool, but they always supplemented with cistern water during times of drought. As a kid I'd come down from our home on the northern border and work on my relative's 360 acre (sheep, cows, corn) farm. For a 5 or 6 period (at least) in the 1960s they experienced drought so we used the Potomac River for bathing and for collecting clothes washing water (this is the upper Potomac, not as polluted as it was lower down). Most of the roofs were either metal or slate, so made clean surfaces for rain water catchment. -Tom
re: 9/11: That Makes at Least Two of Us...
Well and truly said! History bears this out We are being subjugated through both parties by an amazingly insecure group that feels free to act at their baldest when a Bush is in the White House Fear of public whistle blowing (LOOK, THEY ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD, ONE FARM AT A TIME!!) has caused them to invoke the legal equivalent of martial law As McKenna as fond of saying: After Tennamin (sorry for the spelling, friends), everything is different The governments of the earth have much more in common with each other than they do with the people they rule Fear of an outbreak of true democracy requires a return to fascism by those 'who have so much to lose' The true horror, of course, is that 99% of the population seem to think things are just fine and, in fact, are getting better An example of the level of control American psyches are subject to through the PR engines was very bald after the fall of the Iron Curtain Even my mom picked up on this one Before the fall, all the Russian women seen in the US media were old, stooped, wearing cloth overcoats and scarfs on their heads After Russia was 'liberated,' the women were young, vivacious, incredibly beautiful The wonders of Democracy!! -Allan Hello Allan, Please Fwd: I hope this offends no one, but I went looking for America long ago Where did it go? Who took it? I am deeply saddened The Attorney General recently covered up a statue of Lady Justice showing her bosom as if to underscore there is no danger of justice exposing herself at this time, before this administration This has to do with a group of individuals who want nothing to do with the milk of human justice Michael
Re: Greening The Desert-interview with Masanobu Fukuoka
As many of you know James DeMeo has done some interesting greening the desert in Africa using cloudbusters; http://wwworgonelaborg
Re: Orgonomic Weatherman JAMES DeMeo to answer Questions on BDNow!
I have three questions for Dr DeMeo 1 I feel without a Basic 101 understanding of what orgone is and would like to know how it fits in with our current understanding of the energy spectrum Is it comprised of the entire known spectrum and beyond? Can you refer me to a book with which to start my study? It's been so long since I've visited the Reich Museum (around 1992) that I've forgotten most of what I learned there 2 A website http://educate-yourselforg/goodbyects10jan02html gives instructions for making a simplified cloudbuster, which they call a chembuster Its lineage to Reich goes back through Don Croft and Trevor Constable From your website I see you have many concerns over the misuse and distortion of Reich's theories and technology I would appreciate your comments on the use of such modified cloudbusters Is there a use for such technology provided it is applied carefully by a knowledgable individual as opposed to using the larger cloudbusters employed by Reich 3 Please describe Reich's thoughts about jet contour trails in the light of today's concerns (perhaps valid, but seemingly at times without a basis in fact) about the government's use of chemtrails and weather modification We have recently, on this list, seen a couple of posts regarding scalar waves which may have been used by the Russians for weather experiments and others more of a military nature I greatly appreciate your willingness to comment on questions from the list Best regards, Tom Schley
Re: OFF:Re: Electronics and cancer
Manfred, We mainly built timber frame structures with light clay/straw infill Where needed extra support came from bamboo poles positioned horizontally or occasionally wattle and daube That way we entirely avoided metal lattice in the walls Cheers, Tom Related to this, i may soon be involved in a strawbale structure in which i'd like to avoid using re-bar or chickenwire in the walls, or an electrical surround
Re: Brinton and Fallon on Streaming Audio
Allan, I've always wanted to see and hear Will Brinton the master of compost, and this looks like the best chance I'll have for some time So I cast my vote for streaming audio I imagine there must a lot of interest for this on the list Sally Fallon should put on a good show too Better than having to order tapes from Acres USA Many thanks for the offer I know it will take a lot of work on your part to get it on-line! Best, Tom
Fwd: Re: Wired! Insect deterrents
Manfred, I didn't see your message until just now, but my reply to Cheryl Kemp this morning relates to your idea of copper's antifungal properties. I still wonder whether copper wire can form an acid that would deter pests, and it may be possible there is an electrical effect as well. However the wire in my earlier example was not actually touching the soil, being raised several inches above it, so am unable to see how it's antifungal or acidic effect could travel that far. Best, Tom From: Manfred Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wired! Insect deterrents Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:04:38 -0800 X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom: Maybe your example relates to the anti-fungal effect of those metals' trace elements on/in the soil. There is a French Hoe sold locally which has an embedded copper disc which eventually would touch most of a cultivated garden. There has been mention made of a plow with the same feature.But , insects.i dunno ...manfred - Original Message - From: Thomas Schley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:50 PM Subject: Wired! Insect deterrents Hi Folks, An acquaintance told me she's heard of people using very thin copper or silver wire to ward off insects and maybe other critters. The wire is strung a few inches above the ground and runs up and down the garden rows. Anyone heard of this? What is the principle behind it? I assume it concentrates energy somehow that insects don't like. Since it doesn't seem to be very common it must have some drawbacks? Or is it just one of those magnificent ideas from the 1960s like smoking banana peels? -Tom
Re: Electronics and cancer
Jose, then this would involve ELF waves. I don't know if the HAARP project uses scalar waves, but they are working with LF or ELF. Some researchers have proposed scalar waves for strengthening the immune system, however the effects you suggest must come from producing much stronger fields. The Soviets were believed to be testing scalar weapons based on Tesla's theories, but I haven't heard of them testing on human subjects, such as workers in the embassy. If you have any further thoughts specifically relating to the embassy or Soviet testing I'd be interested in reading them via private email address so we don't tie up the list. Thanks. -Tom My guess is that the commies were working on scalar waves which is something totally different than any other frequency already known. Don´t forget that all the writtings from Tesla were taken into the USSR by a relative of him which by the way was as red as a ripe watermelon ( the pulp not the skin ). Jose
Re: Electronics and cancer
I recall an article speculating that a scalar device was used by the Russians to destroy the USS Thrasher, a sub, probably an atomic sub back in the 60s or so. Does anyone know what Tesla proposed to do with his knowledge of these waves? I had thought they were some sort of ELF waves, but Jose thinks they are totally beyond the spectrum. Does this mean they are sub-subnature forces? Wonderful!! What else are they erradicating besides insects? Or making not well? Michael - Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:49 PM Subject: Re: Electronics and cancer scalar waves are appropriate for discussion on BD Now! - ALLAN BALLIETT, moderator PS there was a company at the ACRES trade show that was selling a scalar service that originated in Washington state. You could contract with these folks to rid your crop of insects, regardless of your physical location. The installed a 'relay tower' (my phrase) on your property and broadcast waves to you from Washington. They promised complete eradication of insects.
Re: Electronics and cancer
Markess, this leads us right back to weather control. T. Bearden claims the KGB has been using scalar beams to mess with the weather since the 1950s. They were way ahead of us in HAARP type technology using Long Waves, and according to Bearden they have created some destructive weather phenomena in the west as part of their testing programs. I'd like to know a bit about W. Reich's experiments from some of the experts out there. Are waves involved in Reich's weather work with orgone or is this something altogether different? If there are waves involved what frequencies are we talking about? Are etheric forces waveless and without particles since they are really not material forces? I need a little basic education here. - Thanks, Tom The strangest part of this for me is that for the last five or six days I've been reading re-reading a lecture by Tom Bearden gave at the US Psychotronics Ass. meetings in 99. With scalared Love Vectorize Light Markess
Wired! Insect deterrents
Hi Folks, An acquaintance told me she's heard of people using very thin copper or silver wire to ward off insects and maybe other critters. The wire is strung a few inches above the ground and runs up and down the garden rows. Anyone heard of this? What is the principle behind it? I assume it concentrates energy somehow that insects don't like. Since it doesn't seem to be very common it must have some drawbacks? Or is it just one of those magnificent ideas from the 1960s like smoking banana peels? -Tom
Re: MARK PURDEY: Tularemia a symptom of unhealthy ecosystem?
Hello Mark, I want to ask if you are familiar with what is believed to be an outbreak of tularemia in the Cape Cod, Massachusetts area? From the little I've read some 15 people have come down with something believed to be tularemia, though no one has yet died from it. The CDC has not been able to figure out how it is being transmitted, though anyone working outside in fields or woods is warned to wear a mask to filter out airborne particles. As a kid I was always told not to touch a dead rabbit as it might carry the disease. However in the Cape Cod cases rabbits do not appear to be the carrier that directly infects humans. It is interesting to note that the nearby island of Martha's Vineyard was the first place in the eastern US to become heavily populated by Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, a tick borne disease. Now the entire area, including Cape Cod and much of the coast north and south, is home to Lyme ticks. The coastal marsh grasses make excellent habitat for them. What I wonder is, is this an example of an area that has been heavily degraded by, say insecticide application? An example of other environmental contaminants in the area is the leaching of aviation fuel into the water table from an abandoned air force base. Perhaps this is a subject too far removed from Mad Cow Disease, but it seems it is a symptom of the same large-scale application of toxic agents to our environment, or perhaps the removal of species and habitats that once could have neutralized these diseases. Thank you for your courage, commitment and willingness to engage in dialogue with us, -Tom
Re: NORTHERN STAR CALENDAR-MARK2-Address correction
Brian, Incredible work! There's more than enough work on your website to keep me busy until the middle of the 21st century (were I so fortunate to live that long)! I'll be ordering your Northern Star Calendar shortly. Many thanks. Tom
Re: Native American biological farming
Ted, in our part of northern New Mexico the Native American populations reached a high point after about AD1350, declining rapidly after Spanish colonialization. While there is evidence of population decline from periodic drought and environmental degradation, the land was obviously productive (locally some pueblos seem to have subsisted on corn and other crops, hunting and gathering, and raised turkeys for feathers and food) for those who had the knowledge and skill to utilize a diversity of resources. Certainly, as throughout North America, there were intricate and effective trading networks that brought in resources from at least as far away as the Pacific coast and Central America. Our major environmental problem now is the declining water table. Ancient pueblo sites are located on land which once had an abundance of springs and seeps. Cisterns were also fastioned to collect snow melt and seasonal rains. Now wells are having to be dug hundreds of feet deeper than even in the 1950s or later. We are considering plans to re-create meanders on one of our local rivers (to offset the Corps of Engineers terrible concrete straightening of the river channel) in order to encourage riparian growth and recharge some of the ground water that existed prior to mining and heavy livestock concentrations.
Re: Our President
Just had our local phone lines come back up so missed most of this conversation. My only comment is that the idea of a Special Prosecutor was brought up on CSPN a last Monday. Of course it was Ralph Nader and his group Public Citizen (I think that's the group's name) and an invited economist or two that voiced this opinion over TV. Perhaps no one in the Senate or House wanted to be aligned with Nader, but it is a rather glaring difference from the 1990s. Tom Schley I'm not saying we SHOULD have a Special Prosecutor. I'm saying I'm surprised the idea hasn't even come up. -- Robert Farr (540) 668-7160 Check out http://www.thechileman.com for Hot Sauces, Salsas, Mustards More!
