Re: [BlindHandyMan] Basement floor project.

2009-10-20 Thread Lee A. Stone

it took you two years Max but when completed it is just as you wanted 
it to be. Lee


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 What you are learning Dan is that it always takes longer to do something 
 than you thought it would.  It took me and Sue almost 2 years to finish the 
 shop.
 
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Dan Rossi d...@andrew.cmu.edu
 To: Blind Handyman List BlindHandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 12:25 PM
 Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Basement floor project.
 
 
  Yes, you read that right, basement floor, not door.  The door project is
  pretty much done, but I do need to put some railings on either side of the
  pit.  That will come when I have more time, or after I fall into the damn
  pit and break something, namely me.
 
  Here is what I have done so far with the basement floor.
 
  I took a 15inch long block of 2X6 and screwed it into the floor with
  TapCon screws.  It is mid way between the left and right walls and about
  7.5 feet aft of the middle of the basement.
 
  I then laid a 2X6 board on top of that middle block.  The length of the
  long 2X6 is such that it is nice and level, touches the block in the
  middle and the floor a few feet out to each side.  I then laid a 2X4 on
  top of that 2X6 and it goes fully across the basement and just touches the
  floor at the walls.  OK, not true, although it is perfectly level, it
  touches the floor on one end, but is a bit high on the other end, I
  guess the basement floor isn't even from one side to the other.
 
  So, yes, if you have a 2X4 sitting all the way across the basement there
  is, in fact, a three inch gap below it at the middle, and this is 7.5 feet
  back from the center of the basement, where the drop is another three
  inches.
 
  I screwed the ends of the 2X6 and 2X4 into the cement floor with TapCons,
  and screwed the 2X6 to the cleat in the middle and the 2X4 all along the
  length where it is in contact with the 2X6.
 
  The boards are all on their flat faces and the 2X4 is along the back edge
  of the 2X6.
 
  I wedged in some various size and shaped blocks under the 2X6 where I
  could and screwed down through the 2X6 to these blocks, just to help
  stiffen it up a bit.
 
  I then did the same thing 7.5 feet forward of the center of the basement.
  So now I have these two beams spanning the width of the basement and I
  will eventually run 2X4 on their flat faces laying on top of the 2X6s and
  between the 2X4s on the beams.  Does that make any sense?  The beams
  essentially make shelves that the joists lay on, with their ends
  constrained by the perpendicular 2X4s.
 
  I will build another beam spanning the width of the basement at the center
  line.  So the joists will actually run from the beams at either end, and
  meet on top of the middle 2X6 beam.
 
  I will install blocking every two feet under the joists to help stiffen
  the floor, and screw 3/4 inch ply over everything.
 
  Here are some additional plans.  The middle beam will actually be split in
  the middle, so that I can make a trap door directly over the center drain
  in case I need to access it at some point in the future.
 
  The first block I mentioned is actually split in half and so is the 2X6
  above it.  I will be laying 2 inch PVC pipe from that opening over to the
  center drain.  This way if the washer or furnace ever have a bad day, the
  water will get to the drain without soaking the entire cement floor
  underneath.
 
  I found that a ShopVac attachment will work perfectly as the drain
  inlet.  I will just need to make a somewhat water resistant barrier along
  the utility room wall at the floor, to coax the water toward the inlet.
 
  I am also putting in a drain inlet just in front of the newly created
  external basement door.  So if we ever get enough rain that it overwhelms
  the drainage out there, and reaches above the three inch step and begins
  to seep under the door, it will go down this drain through a pipe and
  empty near the main floor drain.
 
  I just cannot believe how slow I am to actually get anything done.  It
  just seems to take forever.  I was impressed with the array of tools I was
  using.  I had a drill with a wood bit in it, a hammer drill with a
  masonry bit, a small cordless driver to drive wood screws, and an impact
  driver to drive the TapCons.  Yes, I could have done this with two
  devices, but would have had to keep changing out bits.
 
  I damn near lost my mind at one point.  I had spent a lot of time lining
  things up using a plumb bob hanging from the floor joists above.  I only
  have one bob so had to keep moving it from one end, 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] For those of Us that use Jaws.

2009-10-20 Thread Lee A. Stone

is the new windows 7 going to work well with jaws.  some already have 
it, wondows 7 but   it is being released across the land   via 
microsoft  on the 22nd or 23 rd. this week. Lee


On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 
02:54:54PM +1100, 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] For those of Us that use Jaws.

2009-10-20 Thread David Ferrin
That is what I am told.
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is the new windows 7 going to work well with jaws.  some already have
it, wondows 7 but   it is being released across the land   via
microsoft  on the 22nd or 23 rd. this week. Lee


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] time estimate Basement floor project.

2009-10-20 Thread Lenny McHugh
 bits.

 I damn near lost my mind at one point.  I had spent a lot of time lining
 things up using a plumb bob hanging from the floor joists above.  I only
 have one bob so had to keep moving it from one end, to the middle, to the
 far end and trying to nudge the ends without shifting the middle.  I
 finally got everything lined up, then kicked the whole damn thing as I
 went to grab the drill and had to start over.

 I am hoping to get the center beam put in during the evenings this week,
 then this weekend I can slap the 2X4 joists in place pretty quickly.
 Cutting and wedging all the support blocking is probably going to take
 some time though.

 Just to keep dragging this on, I decided to try something with the joist
 spacing in a vain attempt to make laying the 4X8 sheets of plywood easier.
 Of course it will actually make things much more difficult, I am sure,
 just not exactly sure how yet.

 Since the basement is 15 feet wide, I could have either had one joist 8
 feet from one wall and 7 feet from the other wall, then  laid four full
 sheets
 from one side, and then 4 7 foot long sheets from the other side.  That
 would put a single seem along the floor.

 I could have put a joist right down the middle, then cut all the sheets to
 7.5 feet.

 In both cases, you still end up having to monkey with joist spacing at
 least at one place.  And, in both cases you get a single straight seam.

 I chose to put two joists down the middle, each one is 8 feet from one of
 the side walls and 7 feet from the other.  This way you lay a full sheet
 from one side of the basement and then a full sheet adjacent to that one,
 but from the other side of the basement.  This way they overlap and there
 isn't just a straight seam along one joist.

 I then just took the empty space between the first joist, and the joist 7
 feet out, and figured out the spacing for three more joists in that space.
 So the spacing is actually about 19 and 3/4 inches on center for the first
 five joists, and also for the joists 6 through 10, but 12 inches center to
 center for joists 5 and 6.

 I didn't see any reason to force a specific 12, 16, or 24 inch center to
 center spacing if I was going to have to play with that anyway.

 OK, I've killed my lunch hour.  back to work.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Basement floor project.

2009-10-20 Thread Dan Rossi
Jewel,

I have a feeling my neighbors might also have a say in my building a winch 
and log slide on the main stairs to our courtyard.  Most of them would 
probably be up for it though.  Just as long as I could keep the kids off 
of it.

Of course, by the time I built the damn thing all my other projects would 
be way behind schedule.  *GRIN*


-- 
Blue skies.
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Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081


[BlindHandyMan] Non-euclidian geometry.

2009-10-20 Thread Dan Rossi
I need to call in NASA to investigate my basement.  Apparently, my 
basement is a very special place where Euclidian geometry goes right out 
the window.

I have two parallel beams that are nice and level.  The level beeps 
continuously as I move it along the beams.  I lay a 2X4 across the two 
beams and that 2X4 shows level.  So, if the two beams are level, and they 
are level to each other, then a 2X4 placed across them at any point will 
be level.

Here is where it gets interesting.  At one end, the 2X4 is level and all 
is happy.  At the far end, if I level the 2X4 it is well above the one 
beam.  And I don't mean like a quarter of an inch, I mean like an inch and 
a quarter or a bit more.

This is actually impossible.  But that is why my basement must be 
declared a non-euclidian zone.

I think it has to do with the fact that even if the level is off a tiny 
bit, like 0.1 of a degree, over 15 feet, that is actually 5/16 of an inch. 
Do that three times and you get nearly an inch.  Plus the middle beam that 
I was trying to level wasn't fully supported yet, so is bending and 
flexing, and so was the 2X4 I was using.  Add all that up and you get a 
lot of error creep.

I need an 8 foot level, but not sure I can get that one passed SWMBO.  I 
might try using my saw guide on edge which should be pretty stiff.

  -- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081


Re: [BlindHandyMan] Non-euclidian geometry.

2009-10-20 Thread Tom Fowle
Dan
This shows up one of my favorite nit picks, the difference between
resolution and accuracy

Obviously the resolution of your  level isn't what you think.  The error is
not noticable on the tiny slant of one or the other beam, probably both.
but the same level change shows up on the 2 by 4 which is shorter.

I think, maybe, or not?

tom fowle

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:09:16AM -0400, Dan Rossi wrote:
 I need to call in NASA to investigate my basement.  Apparently, my 
 basement is a very special place where Euclidian geometry goes right out 
 the window.
 
 I have two parallel beams that are nice and level.  The level beeps 
 continuously as I move it along the beams.  I lay a 2X4 across the two 
 beams and that 2X4 shows level.  So, if the two beams are level, and they 
 are level to each other, then a 2X4 placed across them at any point will 
 be level.
 
 Here is where it gets interesting.  At one end, the 2X4 is level and all 
 is happy.  At the far end, if I level the 2X4 it is well above the one 
 beam.  And I don't mean like a quarter of an inch, I mean like an inch and 
 a quarter or a bit more.
 
 This is actually impossible.  But that is why my basement must be 
 declared a non-euclidian zone.
 
 I think it has to do with the fact that even if the level is off a tiny 
 bit, like 0.1 of a degree, over 15 feet, that is actually 5/16 of an inch. 
 Do that three times and you get nearly an inch.  Plus the middle beam that 
 I was trying to level wasn't fully supported yet, so is bending and 
 flexing, and so was the 2X4 I was using.  Add all that up and you get a 
 lot of error creep.
 
 I need an 8 foot level, but not sure I can get that one passed SWMBO.  I 
 might try using my saw guide on edge which should be pretty stiff.
 
   -- 
 Blue skies.
 Dan Rossi
 Carnegie Mellon University.
 E-Mail:   d...@andrew.cmu.edu
 Tel:  (412) 268-9081


Re: [BlindHandyMan] Non-euclidian geometry.

2009-10-20 Thread Ron Yearns
One thing I used a number of years ago on laying out and framing for a concrete 
foundation is a water level.  It consists of a length of  clear vinyl tubing.  
Half inch in diameter works well but not real critical, just if too small you 
tend to get some capillary action.  Make sure it is long enough to come up to 
where you are wanting to level off with the rest laying on the ground.  Almost 
fill it with  water.  Water seeks its own level so the two water levels seen 
through the clear tube  will be level with each other.  by holding it near 
stakes or walls you can put level marks to measure down from or to use if they 
are the right height..  This probably isn't as accurate as one of those laser 
level but for long lengths I think it does real well.
Ron

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: Blind Handyman List 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:09 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Non-euclidian geometry.


I need to call in NASA to investigate my basement. Apparently, my 
  basement is a very special place where Euclidian geometry goes right out 
  the window.

  I have two parallel beams that are nice and level. The level beeps 
  continuously as I move it along the beams. I lay a 2X4 across the two 
  beams and that 2X4 shows level. So, if the two beams are level, and they 
  are level to each other, then a 2X4 placed across them at any point will 
  be level.

  Here is where it gets interesting. At one end, the 2X4 is level and all 
  is happy. At the far end, if I level the 2X4 it is well above the one 
  beam. And I don't mean like a quarter of an inch, I mean like an inch and 
  a quarter or a bit more.

  This is actually impossible. But that is why my basement must be 
  declared a non-euclidian zone.

  I think it has to do with the fact that even if the level is off a tiny 
  bit, like 0.1 of a degree, over 15 feet, that is actually 5/16 of an inch. 
  Do that three times and you get nearly an inch. Plus the middle beam that 
  I was trying to level wasn't fully supported yet, so is bending and 
  flexing, and so was the 2X4 I was using. Add all that up and you get a 
  lot of error creep.

  I need an 8 foot level, but not sure I can get that one passed SWMBO. I 
  might try using my saw guide on edge which should be pretty stiff.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


  

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[BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

2009-10-20 Thread Lenny McHugh
Well, I am quite upset with the cobolt talking tape measures. About a year 
ago I was in the middle of a project and my talking tape measure went South. 
So I ordered a replacement and sent the broken one across the big pond for 
repair. When it came back I just put it away for a backup. Well today in the 
middle of another project the second unit totally went goofy. I replaced the 
battery and it worked for a while. Then I had the tape out about 15 inches 
and the unit told me 4 and 3/8 inches. Left it shut off and then pulled out 
the tape a few inches and was told that it is 1/4 inch. And now it won't 
talk. So I pulled out the one that was repaired and it does not talk, that 
is what I sent back to have fixed. I guess I will purchase another and send 
these two back for repair.
When I send them back I will send them free matter. That is the way that the 
last one was sent to me. Once before I had the first unit repaired and it 
cost me $35 for shipping. So this time I will use the free matter as I did 
the last time. It did not add that much time and I am in no hurry to get 
them back since I will have one shipped secondday.
---
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

2009-10-20 Thread Eric
Tell me about it!  I have gone through at least 8 or 9 of these things.  I 
can't understand why they can't make them a little more durable.

Eric

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Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:06 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure


 Well, I am quite upset with the cobolt talking tape measures. About a year
 ago I was in the middle of a project and my talking tape measure went 
 South.
 So I ordered a replacement and sent the broken one across the big pond for
 repair. When it came back I just put it away for a backup. Well today in 
 the
 middle of another project the second unit totally went goofy. I replaced 
 the
 battery and it worked for a while. Then I had the tape out about 15 inches
 and the unit told me 4 and 3/8 inches. Left it shut off and then pulled 
 out
 the tape a few inches and was told that it is 1/4 inch. And now it won't
 talk. So I pulled out the one that was repaired and it does not talk, that
 is what I sent back to have fixed. I guess I will purchase another and 
 send
 these two back for repair.
 When I send them back I will send them free matter. That is the way that 
 the
 last one was sent to me. Once before I had the first unit repaired and it
 cost me $35 for shipping. So this time I will use the free matter as I did
 the last time. It did not add that much time and I am in no hurry to get
 them back since I will have one shipped secondday.
 ---
 Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous
 with many resources for the blind.
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[BlindHandyMan] Emailing: How Green » Blog Archi ve » Google PowerMeter Officiall y Available.htm

2009-10-20 Thread mark
How Green » Blog Archive » Google PowerMeter Officially Available

« Previous Next » Oct
06 Google PowerMeter Officially Available
By Jeremy A. Kaplan
Fox News 

The “smart grid” is a catch-all term to describe a next-generation power 
distribution system, with two-way communication, on demand features, and much, 
much more intelligence than the “dumb” system we currently employ. And 
everyone’s getting into it, even Google, which announced it’s PowerMeter entry 
into the smart grid market back in February.  The application, which lives as a 
secure widget on iGoogle, communicates with smart meters–40 million of which 
are deployed worldwide at the moment. and that number is expected to jump by 
100 million in the next few years. Google PowerMeter will show consumers their 
electricity consumption in near real-time, and should offer “more useful and 
actionable feedback than complicated monthly paper bills that provide little 
detail on consumption or how to save energy.”

And guess what? It’s finally available! GoodCleanTech reports that Ted 5000, a 
PDA-like gizmo from Energy Inc., goes on sale today. The website reports that 
“it will include the Google PowerMeter software tool, which will provide 
personal home energy data from anywhere you can access the Internet, including 
the iGoogle for mobile phones. With the TED 5000, users will no longer have to 
have a smart meter installed by your utility in order to access PowerMeter. For 
those who already have a TED device (short for “the energy detective”), a free 
firmware upgrade will enable the PowerMeter functionality.”

Good news indeed! Smart grid technology is clearly a boon both to consumers–who 
doesn’t want to schedule appliances to run when power is cheaper?–and our 
aging, overtaxed power grid. You can read more about the Ted 5000 and Google’s 
PowerMeter at GoodCleanTech.com.

7 Responses to “Google PowerMeter Officially Available”
  1.. Ed Says: 
  October 6th, 2009 at 7:42 pm 
  This device should help reduce our electric bills and could reduce our 
dependence on Foreign Oil, for other ideas check out 
http://www.offfoerignoil.com

  2.. Ed Says: 
  October 6th, 2009 at 7:56 pm 
  Sorry, the correct website address is http://www.offforeignoil.com. Together 
we can reduce our dependence on foreign oil

  3.. Google PowerMeter Officially Available – Simon | Semenoff Says: 
  October 7th, 2009 at 1:12 pm 
  [...] Reposted from: 
http://green.foxnews.com/2009/10/06/google-powermeter-officially-available/ 
[...]

  4.. Albaby Says: 
  October 15th, 2009 at 1:50 pm 
  There has been a device called a Kill-A-Watt that has been avaiable for 
several years. It plugs into a wall outlet It can tell you what the power usage 
is in any at any moment or integrate the information over a period of time. It 
is available a Menards etc.

  5.. Albaby Says: 
  October 15th, 2009 at 2:02 pm 
  should have mentioned it measures the power of devices plugged into it. Only 
one recptacle but you can use a power strip to measure several at once-such as 
a TV, dvd player etc. as londg as all don’t total over 15 amps.

  6.. Chad Says: 
  October 15th, 2009 at 5:32 pm 
  This is old technology and this device tells you nothing useful.

  Check this website http://www.brultech.com/index.html

  This device can monitor multiple individual circuits within your home to tell 
you specifically where the major power drains are. My electric bill tells me I 
am using too much power and so does this. Niether help me control my usage.

  At least the brultech device narrows it down to a circuit and helps a person 
troubleshoot, for instance if you have a room with a TV, DVR, Computer and Home 
entertainment system, what would you save by turning them off at night. You 
might be surprised.

  I like Google but don’t think that just because thier name is on it, that it 
is worth a dime…

  7.. Joe Says: 
  October 16th, 2009 at 12:11 pm 
  Maybe one of the biggest tech energy consumers in the world should think 
about using their own gadget. 

  It takes just as much energy to boil a teapot of water as it takes to do a 
Google search.

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[BlindHandyMan] Emailing: How Green » Blog Archi ve » Google PowerMeter Officiall y Available.htm

2009-10-20 Thread mark
How Green » Blog Archive » Google PowerMeter Officially Available

« Previous Next » Oct
06 Google PowerMeter Officially Available
By Jeremy A. Kaplan
Fox News 

The “smart grid” is a catch-all term to describe a next-generation power 
distribution system, with two-way communication, on demand features, and much, 
much more intelligence than the “dumb” system we currently employ. And 
everyone’s getting into it, even Google, which announced it’s PowerMeter entry 
into the smart grid market back in February.  The application, which lives as a 
secure widget on iGoogle, communicates with smart meters–40 million of which 
are deployed worldwide at the moment. and that number is expected to jump by 
100 million in the next few years. Google PowerMeter will show consumers their 
electricity consumption in near real-time, and should offer “more useful and 
actionable feedback than complicated monthly paper bills that provide little 
detail on consumption or how to save energy.”

And guess what? It’s finally available! GoodCleanTech reports that Ted 5000, a 
PDA-like gizmo from Energy Inc., goes on sale today. The website reports that 
“it will include the Google PowerMeter software tool, which will provide 
personal home energy data from anywhere you can access the Internet, including 
the iGoogle for mobile phones. With the TED 5000, users will no longer have to 
have a smart meter installed by your utility in order to access PowerMeter. For 
those who already have a TED device (short for “the energy detective”), a free 
firmware upgrade will enable the PowerMeter functionality.”

Good news indeed! Smart grid technology is clearly a boon both to consumers–who 
doesn’t want to schedule appliances to run when power is cheaper?–and our 
aging, overtaxed power grid. You can read more about the Ted 5000 and Google’s 
PowerMeter at GoodCleanTech.com.

7 Responses to “Google PowerMeter Officially Available”
  1.. Ed Says: 
  October 6th, 2009 at 7:42 pm 
  This device should help reduce our electric bills and could reduce our 
dependence on Foreign Oil, for other ideas check out 
http://www.offfoerignoil.com

  2.. Ed Says: 
  October 6th, 2009 at 7:56 pm 
  Sorry, the correct website address is http://www.offforeignoil.com. Together 
we can reduce our dependence on foreign oil

  3.. Google PowerMeter Officially Available – Simon | Semenoff Says: 
  October 7th, 2009 at 1:12 pm 
  [...] Reposted from: 
http://green.foxnews.com/2009/10/06/google-powermeter-officially-available/ 
[...]

  4.. Albaby Says: 
  October 15th, 2009 at 1:50 pm 
  There has been a device called a Kill-A-Watt that has been avaiable for 
several years. It plugs into a wall outlet It can tell you what the power usage 
is in any at any moment or integrate the information over a period of time. It 
is available a Menards etc.

  5.. Albaby Says: 
  October 15th, 2009 at 2:02 pm 
  should have mentioned it measures the power of devices plugged into it. Only 
one recptacle but you can use a power strip to measure several at once-such as 
a TV, dvd player etc. as londg as all don’t total over 15 amps.

  6.. Chad Says: 
  October 15th, 2009 at 5:32 pm 
  This is old technology and this device tells you nothing useful.

  Check this website http://www.brultech.com/index.html

  This device can monitor multiple individual circuits within your home to tell 
you specifically where the major power drains are. My electric bill tells me I 
am using too much power and so does this. Niether help me control my usage.

  At least the brultech device narrows it down to a circuit and helps a person 
troubleshoot, for instance if you have a room with a TV, DVR, Computer and Home 
entertainment system, what would you save by turning them off at night. You 
might be surprised.

  I like Google but don’t think that just because thier name is on it, that it 
is worth a dime…

  7.. Joe Says: 
  October 16th, 2009 at 12:11 pm 
  Maybe one of the biggest tech energy consumers in the world should think 
about using their own gadget. 

  It takes just as much energy to boil a teapot of water as it takes to do a 
Google search.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] water level Non-euclidian geometry.

2009-10-20 Thread Lenny McHugh
I have a water level that has a beeper on  the end that you secure.The way 
that I used it was to fill the tube with water and hang the beeper end. then 
I slowly brought the other end of the tube close and removed the cap.  When 
it was raised enough to make the beeper sound I placed a piece of tape where 
I wanted to check. Then all around the room I could tell where it was level 
by feeling the tape edge. I used this for installing a drop ceiling. When a 
friend came over later to help he started checking my work and could not 
believe how level it was. I told him that I was just lucky before I showed 
him the tool. I think I paid about$25 for it.
- Original Message - 
From: Ron Yearns ryea...@sbcglobal.net
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Non-euclidian geometry.


One thing I used a number of years ago on laying out and framing for a 
concrete foundation is a water level.  It consists of a length of  clear 
vinyl tubing.  Half inch in diameter works well but not real critical, just 
if too small you tend to get some capillary action.  Make sure it is long 
enough to come up to where you are wanting to level off with the rest laying 
on the ground.  Almost fill it with  water.  Water seeks its own level so 
the two water levels seen through the clear tube  will be level with each 
other.  by holding it near stakes or walls you can put level marks to 
measure down from or to use if they are the right height..  This probably 
isn't as accurate as one of those laser level but for long lengths I think 
it does real well.
Ron

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi
  To: Blind Handyman List
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:09 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Non-euclidian geometry.


I need to call in NASA to investigate my basement. Apparently, my
  basement is a very special place where Euclidian geometry goes right out
  the window.

  I have two parallel beams that are nice and level. The level beeps
  continuously as I move it along the beams. I lay a 2X4 across the two
  beams and that 2X4 shows level. So, if the two beams are level, and they
  are level to each other, then a 2X4 placed across them at any point will
  be level.

  Here is where it gets interesting. At one end, the 2X4 is level and all
  is happy. At the far end, if I level the 2X4 it is well above the one
  beam. And I don't mean like a quarter of an inch, I mean like an inch and
  a quarter or a bit more.

  This is actually impossible. But that is why my basement must be
  declared a non-euclidian zone.

  I think it has to do with the fact that even if the level is off a tiny
  bit, like 0.1 of a degree, over 15 feet, that is actually 5/16 of an inch.
  Do that three times and you get nearly an inch. Plus the middle beam that
  I was trying to level wasn't fully supported yet, so is bending and
  flexing, and so was the 2X4 I was using. Add all that up and you get a
  lot of error creep.

  I need an 8 foot level, but not sure I can get that one passed SWMBO. I
  might try using my saw guide on edge which should be pretty stiff.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081




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Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

2009-10-20 Thread Matt
Well, you are tenacious.
After I bought my first one and it didn't last long, I gave up on them all 
together.
Too much money for something which didn't work.
But I loved the idea of it.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lenny McHugh 
  To: handyman-blind 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:06 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure


  Well, I am quite upset with the cobolt talking tape measures. About a year 
  ago I was in the middle of a project and my talking tape measure went South. 
  So I ordered a replacement and sent the broken one across the big pond for 
  repair. When it came back I just put it away for a backup. Well today in the 
  middle of another project the second unit totally went goofy. I replaced the 
  battery and it worked for a while. Then I had the tape out about 15 inches 
  and the unit told me 4 and 3/8 inches. Left it shut off and then pulled out 
  the tape a few inches and was told that it is 1/4 inch. And now it won't 
  talk. So I pulled out the one that was repaired and it does not talk, that 
  is what I sent back to have fixed. I guess I will purchase another and send 
  these two back for repair.
  When I send them back I will send them free matter. That is the way that the 
  last one was sent to me. Once before I had the first unit repaired and it 
  cost me $35 for shipping. So this time I will use the free matter as I did 
  the last time. It did not add that much time and I am in no hurry to get 
  them back since I will have one shipped secondday.
  ---
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

2009-10-20 Thread Tom Hodges
Those talking tapes drive me nuts.

I do know that if you turn it off when the tape is not fully retracted, it
thinks that it is at the zero position.  For example, if the tape is pulled
out to 8 inches and you turn it on it will think it is at zero inches.  Then
if you pull it out 4 nore inches to the 12 inch position, it will think it
is at four inches.

The answer to this problem, of course, is to make sure the tape is retracted
all the way efore you turn it on.

What also drives me crazy is how often it turns itself off.  When measuring,
if you don't fast, it will turn off and you have to start over.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:07 PM
To: handyman-blind
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

Well, I am quite upset with the cobolt talking tape measures. About a year 
ago I was in the middle of a project and my talking tape measure went South.

So I ordered a replacement and sent the broken one across the big pond for 
repair. When it came back I just put it away for a backup. Well today in the

middle of another project the second unit totally went goofy. I replaced the

battery and it worked for a while. Then I had the tape out about 15 inches 
and the unit told me 4 and 3/8 inches. Left it shut off and then pulled out 
the tape a few inches and was told that it is 1/4 inch. And now it won't 
talk. So I pulled out the one that was repaired and it does not talk, that 
is what I sent back to have fixed. I guess I will purchase another and send 
these two back for repair.
When I send them back I will send them free matter. That is the way that the

last one was sent to me. Once before I had the first unit repaired and it 
cost me $35 for shipping. So this time I will use the free matter as I did 
the last time. It did not add that much time and I am in no hurry to get 
them back since I will have one shipped secondday.
---
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with many resources for the blind.
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Non-euclidian geometry.

2009-10-20 Thread Tom Hodges
That's a little difficult to use if you're visually impaired.

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Ron Yearns
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:00 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Non-euclidian geometry.

 

  

One thing I used a number of years ago on laying out and framing for a
concrete foundation is a water level. It consists of a length of clear vinyl
tubing. Half inch in diameter works well but not real critical, just if too
small you tend to get some capillary action. Make sure it is long enough to
come up to where you are wanting to level off with the rest laying on the
ground. Almost fill it with water. Water seeks its own level so the two
water levels seen through the clear tube will be level with each other. by
holding it near stakes or walls you can put level marks to measure down from
or to use if they are the right height.. This probably isn't as accurate as
one of those laser level but for long lengths I think it does real well.
Ron

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Rossi 
To: Blind Handyman List 
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:09 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Non-euclidian geometry.

I need to call in NASA to investigate my basement. Apparently, my 
basement is a very special place where Euclidian geometry goes right out 
the window.

I have two parallel beams that are nice and level. The level beeps 
continuously as I move it along the beams. I lay a 2X4 across the two 
beams and that 2X4 shows level. So, if the two beams are level, and they 
are level to each other, then a 2X4 placed across them at any point will 
be level.

Here is where it gets interesting. At one end, the 2X4 is level and all 
is happy. At the far end, if I level the 2X4 it is well above the one 
beam. And I don't mean like a quarter of an inch, I mean like an inch and 
a quarter or a bit more.

This is actually impossible. But that is why my basement must be 
declared a non-euclidian zone.

I think it has to do with the fact that even if the level is off a tiny 
bit, like 0.1 of a degree, over 15 feet, that is actually 5/16 of an inch. 
Do that three times and you get nearly an inch. Plus the middle beam that 
I was trying to level wasn't fully supported yet, so is bending and 
flexing, and so was the 2X4 I was using. Add all that up and you get a 
lot of error creep.

I need an 8 foot level, but not sure I can get that one passed SWMBO. I 
might try using my saw guide on edge which should be pretty stiff.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu 
Tel: (412) 268-9081

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Non-euclidian geometry.

2009-10-20 Thread Lee A. Stone

is it possible  that your cellar floor might have been poured that way 
incase of  incoming water which will run to one side or one corner?  
this current basement/ cellar floor is angled such and I did not know 
that until we had ur first flood and a new pump  ran  for a couple of 
days until we finally heard the water rushing into the sump pump hole. 
Lee


 On Tue, Oct 20, 
2009 at 10:09:16AM -0400, Dan Rossi wrote:
 I need to call in NASA to investigate my basement.  Apparently, my 
 basement is a very special place where Euclidian geometry goes right out 
 the window.
 
 I have two parallel beams that are nice and level.  The level beeps 
 continuously as I move it along the beams.  I lay a 2X4 across the two 
 beams and that 2X4 shows level.  So, if the two beams are level, and they 
 are level to each other, then a 2X4 placed across them at any point will 
 be level.
 
 Here is where it gets interesting.  At one end, the 2X4 is level and all 
 is happy.  At the far end, if I level the 2X4 it is well above the one 
 beam.  And I don't mean like a quarter of an inch, I mean like an inch and 
 a quarter or a bit more.
 
 This is actually impossible.  But that is why my basement must be 
 declared a non-euclidian zone.
 
 I think it has to do with the fact that even if the level is off a tiny 
 bit, like 0.1 of a degree, over 15 feet, that is actually 5/16 of an inch. 
 Do that three times and you get nearly an inch.  Plus the middle beam that 
 I was trying to level wasn't fully supported yet, so is bending and 
 flexing, and so was the 2X4 I was using.  Add all that up and you get a 
 lot of error creep.
 
 I need an 8 foot level, but not sure I can get that one passed SWMBO.  I 
 might try using my saw guide on edge which should be pretty stiff.
 
   -- 
 Blue skies.
 Dan Rossi
 Carnegie Mellon University.
 E-Mail:   d...@andrew.cmu.edu
 Tel:  (412) 268-9081

-- 
It's a summons.
What's a summons?
It means summon's in trouble.
-- Rocky and Bullwinkle
.


RE: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

2009-10-20 Thread Tom Hodges
I think the reason they don't do anything to improve the talking tape
measure is because they have no competition, so they just keep selling a low
quality product.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Eric
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:20 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

Tell me about it!  I have gone through at least 8 or 9 of these things.  I 
can't understand why they can't make them a little more durable.

Eric

- Original Message - 
From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net
To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:06 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure


 Well, I am quite upset with the cobolt talking tape measures. About a year
 ago I was in the middle of a project and my talking tape measure went 
 South.
 So I ordered a replacement and sent the broken one across the big pond for
 repair. When it came back I just put it away for a backup. Well today in 
 the
 middle of another project the second unit totally went goofy. I replaced 
 the
 battery and it worked for a while. Then I had the tape out about 15 inches
 and the unit told me 4 and 3/8 inches. Left it shut off and then pulled 
 out
 the tape a few inches and was told that it is 1/4 inch. And now it won't
 talk. So I pulled out the one that was repaired and it does not talk, that
 is what I sent back to have fixed. I guess I will purchase another and 
 send
 these two back for repair.
 When I send them back I will send them free matter. That is the way that 
 the
 last one was sent to me. Once before I had the first unit repaired and it
 cost me $35 for shipping. So this time I will use the free matter as I did
 the last time. It did not add that much time and I am in no hurry to get
 them back since I will have one shipped secondday.
 ---
 Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous
 with many resources for the blind.
 http://www.lennymchugh.com
 Lenny
 Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when
 addressing.
 Help stop identity theft.



 

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Stripping and a Finishing Touch

2009-10-20 Thread Spiro
then honestly it might make no difference to the sound unless you strip 
the whole face of it.
Tape the pickups, or remove them if you can solder them back in place.
I'm having a hard time finding strings for my Steinberger as they need the 
balls at both ends.





On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Scott Howell wrote:

 Yep, not the neck, but the body. Actually is right about where you'd
 rest your arm and right on the edge.

 On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:39 PM, Spiro wrote:

 as I may have missed where on the bass it is; if it's on the neck
 you may
 want to go even farther like 1500 or 1600 grit. No big deal it's
 about 3
 pages to the number it takes of the 100. So after the 100 you use a
 little
 more. Makes a nicer surface. But if it's somewhere like the body or
 the
 wing, no big deal.

 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009, Scott Howell wrote:

 Hi Speiro, I think I'll take a shot perhaps at fixing it myself. I
 can't possibly screw it up any worse than it is and honestly after
 talking to a gent who really knows his stuff, he told me just buy
 the
 black coating material (need to verify I have the right stuff) and
 just paint it on a little at a time until it's just a bit higher
 than
 the surrounding area, let harden for a month, and then sand down
 with
 800 or 1000 grit paper and call it a day.
 Maybe this bass would be worth some day, but I'll be quite dead by
 then and won't give a tinkers damn. So, might as well just give it a
 go myself and then take it in if I can't get it just right. After
 all,
 it'll never be perfect no matter what unless it was completely
 stripped and redone.

 tnx,

 On Oct 9, 2009, at 11:32 PM, Spiro wrote:

 considering all that you said; if it were one of mine (My
 Steinberger full
 body which they could only match the blue at the factory) I'd leave
 it to
 the best shop in town. But if it were a more common, (as in
 available, not
 lesser quality) I might rub it with a fine grit till just but the
 last bit
 of smooth was gone, and see if that takes the problem area down.
 Make a
 few recordings with the natural neck (assuming that is where the
 problem
 is, take down just that area) and see if it makes any difference.
 Then
 take it to be touched up and request their advice of finishes for
 sound.
 Or, take it to them, ask them to take just the finish down, and
 take
 it
 back home to record it. No that you can't hear it from an amp
 session, but
 recording saves it as well in case you want to take it back to the
 previous, you'll have the event.

 On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Scott Howell wrote:

 You are correct TOm that it would decrease the value, but to be
 perfectly honest, it isn't worth much now any way. When I
 purchased
 it, I paid $900 or so for it. If I were to sell it today, it would
 fetch a price of around $500 to $600 and with the damage fixed and
 only if it was so fixed you wouldn't notice it, that may not
 affect
 the price to much. Point is I have nothing to loose since I have
 no
 plans to ever sell it. At this point a new one would actually cost
 me
 $1,500 since Fender raised their price a good deal, but doesn't
 seem
 to affect the resale value much.
 You do however make a good point about the impact on the resale.
 Of
 course I probably wouldn't fix it myself. I'd have it done
 properly,
 but I would on the other hand strip it down myself and do
 something
 different.
 On Oct 6, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Tom Hodges wrote:

 I would take it to the professionals to fix as any home repair
 will
 decrease
 the value of it.

 From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Scott Howell
 Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 1:17 PM
 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Stripping and a Finishing Touch

 Well I asked my wife about this, but nearly got slapped, so
 thought I
 should ask you guys and oh yeah gals as well. Okay, just kidding,
 but
 grabbed your attention didn't I?
 So, I have a Fender Jazz bass that for some inexplicable reason
 developed a crack in the coating which is some type of urithane
 (spelled incorrectly of course) and I did not realize this until
 something snagged on my shirt and pulled a good piece of the
 material
 off the edge. So, now I'm faced with two options. One is take
 it to
 the shop to have this problem repaired since they have the
 experience,
 tools, and materials to do the job right. I'm not honestly sure
 what
 the stuff is that they put on there at the factory. The other
 option
 is to finish what has already started and remove all that stuff.
 Then
 i'd have an instrument I could do a hand-rubbed finish on,
 restain, or
 simply apply a much thinner coat of urithane or some protective
 material. The thought process is that an unfinished instrument
 will
 have a slightly or perhaps a more noticeable difference in tone.
 The
 whole point of this message is then to ask what would be the best
 way
 to remove the remaining material if I chose to do so. Would I
 start
 with a really heavy grit paper and 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] shark bite connectors

2009-10-20 Thread Spiro
yes indeed!
New water filter under the kitchen sink; supply to the new bathroom sink, 
and feed to the toilet. Just don't over tighten, as some of those  can 
harm the pipe.





On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, jim wrote:

 all i can say about these is wow!

 last night my pump started running.
 hmmm no water on, oh no.
 going down in the basement i hear this hissing, again, oh no.

 yep one of my copper pipes sprung a leak.
 gr
 OK fill up the water jug  and a sink for washing hands then close the valve 
 and the hissing stops.
 well i lucked out, the hole was in a very accessible spot.
 remembering a friend of mine changing out  an old valve with  the new shark 
 bite valves i wondered if they made just connectors to join 2 pipes together.
 so calling the local ace hardware i find out that yes they do.
 so bright and early off to the store we go and for the happy price of $7 i 
 get one.
 and the silly little plastic piece used to disconnect the connector if you 
 want to for $2.

 come back home and get a tubing cutter out i  find the hole and put the 
 cutter on it and start twisting.
 hmmm, i look as i am cutting and do i see a nice cut line?
 nope the darn cutter is walking down the tube, grrr.
 tossing that one in the trash i look and find another one i new i had.
 thank you dad for never  tossing anything out.

 so back to the pipe and now i have to cut out the ruined piece of tubing.
 luckily i have enough play in the pipe to cut out more than the piece with 
 the hole.

 ok so all edges square and sanded to remove burs.
 then all you do is slide the connector on one end of the pipe till it bottoms 
 out, then pull the other pipe over and stuff it in to the other end and 
 firmly slide it in there till it too bottoms out.
 turn on the water and wow, no leaks.
 hot dam all done and no soldering or plumbers needed.

 this is the very thing any person with a tubing problem needs.
 they work on copper, PVC and pex.
 the bag said so.

 they have all the fittings from valves to elbows and tees.

 a little spendy but hey i didn't burn down the house trying to sweat pipes 
 together.
 Jim in Minnesota


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] shark bite connectors

2009-10-20 Thread jim
hi spiro
there is nothing to tighten on a shark bite connector.
you just slide the tubing into it and its done.
jim


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Non-euclidian geometry.

2009-10-20 Thread Dan Rossi
I have one of those beeping water levels, but for some reason it didn't 
occur to me to try using it.  I'll have to use some kind of offset 
measurement since I need to measure very close to the floor.

Lenny, I like your idea of holding the transponder unit up, then bringing 
the tube up until it beeps, then mark the tube at the same position as the 
mark on the transponder.  That makes it pretty blind friendly.

Lee, my basement floor slopes dramatically toward the center, I already 
know that.  That is why I am trying to build a flat floor above the cement 
floor.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081


[BlindHandyMan] How level is level.

2009-10-20 Thread Dan Rossi
OK, so now that I got my head out of my ass and will use my water level 
next chance I get, how level is level?  Sure sure, you want that floor 
dead flat level so that a ball baring wouldn't roll anywhere, but let's 
get real.  Over a 15 foot span, what is noticeable by a person?  Walking 
around in a 15 foot square room, would you notice a half inch difference 
from one side to another?

Thanks.


-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081


RE: [BlindHandyMan] For those of Us that use Jaws.

2009-10-20 Thread Ray Boyce
Hi Lee

I have installed Jaws 11 yesterday which is working well. We have ordered
Windows 7 and will test it when it arrives and I hope it all works well.

Ray

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
Sent: Tuesday, 20 October 2009 7:20 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] For those of Us that use Jaws.

 

  


is the new windows 7 going to work well with jaws. some already have 
it, wondows 7 but it is being released across the land via 
microsoft on the 22nd or 23 rd. this week. Lee

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 
02:54:54PM +1100, 
Ray Boyce 
wrote:
 Hi All
 
 For those of us that use Jaws to write these messages and are licence to
run
 Jaws 11 it is ready to download at U
 
 RL below
 
 http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/jaws-downloads.asp
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] How level is level.

2009-10-20 Thread Bill Stephan
Dan, if you can place a full, very long stemmed wine glass on the floor without 
spillage, you're OK buddy.



Bill Stephan, 
Kansas City MO 
Email: wstep...@everestkc.net  
Phone: (816)803-2469

-original message-
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] How level is level.
From: Dan Rossi d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Date: 10/20/2009 13:43

OK, so now that I got my head out of my ass and will use my water level 
next chance I get, how level is level?  Sure sure, you want that floor 
dead flat level so that a ball baring wouldn't roll anywhere, but let's 
get real.  Over a 15 foot span, what is noticeable by a person?  Walking 
around in a 15 foot square room, would you notice a half inch difference 
from one side to another?

Thanks.


-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081




Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

2009-10-20 Thread Matt
Now, if they would create a talking click rule?  hahah,
I am considering buying a second click rule.
So many things I have to center.
I've been clampping the click rule to my pieces, and using it to center, and 
sometimes I have to push the piece back and forth until I am satisfied that it 
is as close to center as possible.
Train car rooves and so on.

Matt
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Hodges 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:54 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure


I think the reason they don't do anything to improve the talking tape
  measure is because they have no competition, so they just keep selling a low
  quality product.

  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Eric
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:20 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

  Tell me about it! I have gone through at least 8 or 9 of these things. I 
  can't understand why they can't make them a little more durable.

  Eric

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  From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net
  To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:06 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

   Well, I am quite upset with the cobolt talking tape measures. About a year
   ago I was in the middle of a project and my talking tape measure went 
   South.
   So I ordered a replacement and sent the broken one across the big pond for
   repair. When it came back I just put it away for a backup. Well today in 
   the
   middle of another project the second unit totally went goofy. I replaced 
   the
   battery and it worked for a while. Then I had the tape out about 15 inches
   and the unit told me 4 and 3/8 inches. Left it shut off and then pulled 
   out
   the tape a few inches and was told that it is 1/4 inch. And now it won't
   talk. So I pulled out the one that was repaired and it does not talk, that
   is what I sent back to have fixed. I guess I will purchase another and 
   send
   these two back for repair.
   When I send them back I will send them free matter. That is the way that 
   the
   last one was sent to me. Once before I had the first unit repaired and it
   cost me $35 for shipping. So this time I will use the free matter as I did
   the last time. It did not add that much time and I am in no hurry to get
   them back since I will have one shipped secondday.
   ---
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.

2009-10-20 Thread Dale Leavens
That probably depends on just how cold it gets in that attic space and how much 
ventilation there is above the plywood. The plywood won't be air tight so there 
will be at least some migration of moisture up through it which should be 
carried away by even modest ventilation. If the attic space though gets really 
cold then you may find moisture is condensing on the under or warm side of that 
plywood which will wet the insulation and if enough collects may begin wetting 
the ceiling or allowing mold or mildew. It will also depend on just how much of 
the area you cover.If just a four foot strip down the middle it is unlikely to 
be enough to cause a problem but if the entire space then it could well be.n 

Another concern is that the plywood does not compress the insulation as this 
will reduce the efficiency. Often people will put 6 inches of insulation 
between the ceiling joists particularly if it is fiber glass bats or they will 
run a second layer of thicker insulation across the top of the joists.

Is it your intension to create a floored space to allow for storage?  It it is 
just to get around up there I have made sort of duck boards to put down over 
ceiling joists to crawl or walk along on and which I can pick up when not in 
use.

Usually the ceiling is the most effective place to put insulation and usually 
more is better though there is a diminishing return curve.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Spiro 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.


considering this evaporation Dale
  is it then unwise to tack down something like 3/8 ply down over the 
  insulation between the two by's?
  thanks
  I've obviously not done anything yet as it was way too hot up there, and 
  so dusty I couldn't breath.

  On Mon, 14 Sep 2009, Dale Leavens wrote:

   A certain amount depends on the climate where you are applying the 
insulation.
  
   The reason you ventilate the roof space is to keep it cool in hot weather 
and to evaporate moisture which leaks up into the attic space in heating 
weather.
  
   Usually you wouldn't want to be ventilating a part of the living space 
allowing heat to escape in heating weather or cooling to escape during cooling 
season.
  
   If you insulate under the roof deck you will retain all of the radiant heat 
from the sun right there. The insulation wont allow any of that heat to 
dissipate. That may help to keep the living space cooler to some point at least 
but the shingles or what ever else the roof is made of will become outrageously 
hot in the sun.
  
   Think of the roof as weather protection only.
  
   Well, that is the usual situation.
  
   In fact my roof is insulated sort of. I put an addition onto a house which 
is a story and three-quarters, that is, the walls front and back slope and 
become the ceiling. I did not wish to use the same balloon style construction 
for the addition and didn't much like having that top bit of the wall only the 
four inches thick of the roof rafters so, while keeping the similar design 
inside I built a second roof that runs over the entire first roof and the new 
addition. I then insulated over the original roof and the dummy ceiling part of 
the extended roof with 18 inches of glass fiber. this also allowed me to run a 
continuous poly vapor barrier right over the original roof and under the 
insulation and second roof. I have insulated under the original roof as well, 
over the warm side of the vapor barrier. The attic space then is part of the 
heated environment and the old and false roof actually perform the function of 
walls. I had a hell of a time explaining to local builders how
  t
   his works but believe me it works and works well.
  
   There is a about 8 inches of free air space under the actual roof deck.
  
   Probably the most important factor in energy efficiency is to have an air 
tight envelope and control the ventilation, to keep conditioned air in and 
unconditioned air out. You then must control ventilation to keep the air 
quality satisfactory then you must add insulation to keep heat transference 
from conduction and radiation under control. The direct movement of warm and 
cold air though is easily the most important factor in comfort and energy 
saving.
  
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Shane Hecker
   To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:17 PM
   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] additional about spray insilation question.
  
  
   I could see that if the vents were blocked. But if they aren't, wouldn't 
they work as before? As far as the ceiling goes, I thought when you sprayed 
foam under the roof deck, you turned the attic into a part of your living 
space. I'm a bit confused as everything I've seen suggests you can do this. 
They say if the roof is ventilated, don't block the vents, but that it still 
works. But it's also 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Non-euclidian geometry.

2009-10-20 Thread Dale Leavens
Try pulling a string tight between nails at each end of your beams and follow 
that with a finger. You will soon discover if there are dips in your beams 
hidden by your level.

2 by stock on it's flat face is rarely straight, even on edge they crown, 
sometimes substantially.

I don't have any experience with the electronic levels but you might test the 
range of accuracy.

Place playing cards under one end until it begins beeping then count how many 
you can insert before it again stops. Then you will know the margin of possible 
measuring error.

Hope this helps.



  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: Blind Handyman List 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:09 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Non-euclidian geometry.


I need to call in NASA to investigate my basement. Apparently, my 
  basement is a very special place where Euclidian geometry goes right out 
  the window.

  I have two parallel beams that are nice and level. The level beeps 
  continuously as I move it along the beams. I lay a 2X4 across the two 
  beams and that 2X4 shows level. So, if the two beams are level, and they 
  are level to each other, then a 2X4 placed across them at any point will 
  be level.

  Here is where it gets interesting. At one end, the 2X4 is level and all 
  is happy. At the far end, if I level the 2X4 it is well above the one 
  beam. And I don't mean like a quarter of an inch, I mean like an inch and 
  a quarter or a bit more.

  This is actually impossible. But that is why my basement must be 
  declared a non-euclidian zone.

  I think it has to do with the fact that even if the level is off a tiny 
  bit, like 0.1 of a degree, over 15 feet, that is actually 5/16 of an inch. 
  Do that three times and you get nearly an inch. Plus the middle beam that 
  I was trying to level wasn't fully supported yet, so is bending and 
  flexing, and so was the 2X4 I was using. Add all that up and you get a 
  lot of error creep.

  I need an 8 foot level, but not sure I can get that one passed SWMBO. I 
  might try using my saw guide on edge which should be pretty stiff.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] How level is level.

2009-10-20 Thread Ron Yearns
I think that would depend on the person, time of day and number of adult 
beverages consumed.

Ron
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: Blind Handyman List 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:43 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] How level is level.


OK, so now that I got my head out of my ass and will use my water level 
  next chance I get, how level is level? Sure sure, you want that floor 
  dead flat level so that a ball baring wouldn't roll anywhere, but let's 
  get real. Over a 15 foot span, what is noticeable by a person? Walking 
  around in a 15 foot square room, would you notice a half inch difference 
  from one side to another?

  Thanks.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


  

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] How level is level.

2009-10-20 Thread Tom Hodges
Level is level enough as long as your beer bottle doesn't tip over.

 

 

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Rossi
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:43 PM
To: Blind Handyman List
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] How level is level.

 

  

OK, so now that I got my head out of my ass and will use my water level 
next chance I get, how level is level? Sure sure, you want that floor 
dead flat level so that a ball baring wouldn't roll anywhere, but let's 
get real. Over a 15 foot span, what is noticeable by a person? Walking 
around in a 15 foot square room, would you notice a half inch difference 
from one side to another?

Thanks.

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

2009-10-20 Thread Tom Hodges
Do you know the name of that other measuring device besides a click ruler?
I think it is somewhat similar to a click ruler but I don't know what it is.

 

Tom

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:52 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

 

  

Now, if they would create a talking click rule? hahah,
I am considering buying a second click rule.
So many things I have to center.
I've been clampping the click rule to my pieces, and using it to center, and
sometimes I have to push the piece back and forth until I am satisfied that
it is as close to center as possible.
Train car rooves and so on.

Matt
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Hodges 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com  
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

I think the reason they don't do anything to improve the talking tape
measure is because they have no competition, so they just keep selling a low
quality product.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ]
On Behalf Of Eric
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:20 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

Tell me about it! I have gone through at least 8 or 9 of these things. I 
can't understand why they can't make them a little more durable.

Eric

- Original Message - 
From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net mailto:lmchugh%40verizon.net 
To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:06 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

 Well, I am quite upset with the cobolt talking tape measures. About a year
 ago I was in the middle of a project and my talking tape measure went 
 South.
 So I ordered a replacement and sent the broken one across the big pond for
 repair. When it came back I just put it away for a backup. Well today in 
 the
 middle of another project the second unit totally went goofy. I replaced 
 the
 battery and it worked for a while. Then I had the tape out about 15 inches
 and the unit told me 4 and 3/8 inches. Left it shut off and then pulled 
 out
 the tape a few inches and was told that it is 1/4 inch. And now it won't
 talk. So I pulled out the one that was repaired and it does not talk, that
 is what I sent back to have fixed. I guess I will purchase another and 
 send
 these two back for repair.
 When I send them back I will send them free matter. That is the way that 
 the
 last one was sent to me. Once before I had the first unit repaired and it
 cost me $35 for shipping. So this time I will use the free matter as I did
 the last time. It did not add that much time and I am in no hurry to get
 them back since I will have one shipped secondday.
 ---
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

2009-10-20 Thread Bob Kennedy
I think they call it the Rotomatic.  I haven't used one before, just heard 
about them.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Hodges 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:36 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure


Do you know the name of that other measuring device besides a click ruler?
  I think it is somewhat similar to a click ruler but I don't know what it is.

  Tom

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:52 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

  Now, if they would create a talking click rule? hahah,
  I am considering buying a second click rule.
  So many things I have to center.
  I've been clampping the click rule to my pieces, and using it to center, and
  sometimes I have to push the piece back and forth until I am satisfied that
  it is as close to center as possible.
  Train car rooves and so on.

  Matt
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Hodges 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:54 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

  I think the reason they don't do anything to improve the talking tape
  measure is because they have no competition, so they just keep selling a low
  quality product.

  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ]
  On Behalf Of Eric
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:20 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

  Tell me about it! I have gone through at least 8 or 9 of these things. I 
  can't understand why they can't make them a little more durable.

  Eric

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net mailto:lmchugh%40verizon.net 
  To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:06 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

   Well, I am quite upset with the cobolt talking tape measures. About a year
   ago I was in the middle of a project and my talking tape measure went 
   South.
   So I ordered a replacement and sent the broken one across the big pond for
   repair. When it came back I just put it away for a backup. Well today in 
   the
   middle of another project the second unit totally went goofy. I replaced 
   the
   battery and it worked for a while. Then I had the tape out about 15 inches
   and the unit told me 4 and 3/8 inches. Left it shut off and then pulled 
   out
   the tape a few inches and was told that it is 1/4 inch. And now it won't
   talk. So I pulled out the one that was repaired and it does not talk, that
   is what I sent back to have fixed. I guess I will purchase another and 
   send
   these two back for repair.
   When I send them back I will send them free matter. That is the way that 
   the
   last one was sent to me. Once before I had the first unit repaired and it
   cost me $35 for shipping. So this time I will use the free matter as I did
   the last time. It did not add that much time and I am in no hurry to get
   them back since I will have one shipped secondday.
   ---
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Stripping and a Finishing Touch

2009-10-20 Thread Scott Howell
I'm surprised your having trouble finding strings. Did you check with  
some of the online stores like Musician's friend? Think you can find  
them at http://www.musiciansfriend.com. If you have no luck at all,  
get back to me and I'll check a couple of resources I know of.
On Oct 20, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Spiro wrote:

 then honestly it might make no difference to the sound unless you  
 strip
 the whole face of it.
 Tape the pickups, or remove them if you can solder them back in place.
 I'm having a hard time finding strings for my Steinberger as they  
 need the
 balls at both ends.

 On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Scott Howell wrote:

  Yep, not the neck, but the body. Actually is right about where you'd
  rest your arm and right on the edge.
 
  On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:39 PM, Spiro wrote:
 
  as I may have missed where on the bass it is; if it's on the neck
  you may
  want to go even farther like 1500 or 1600 grit. No big deal it's
  about 3
  pages to the number it takes of the 100. So after the 100 you use a
  little
  more. Makes a nicer surface. But if it's somewhere like the body or
  the
  wing, no big deal.
 
  On Sat, 10 Oct 2009, Scott Howell wrote:
 
  Hi Speiro, I think I'll take a shot perhaps at fixing it myself. I
  can't possibly screw it up any worse than it is and honestly after
  talking to a gent who really knows his stuff, he told me just buy
  the
  black coating material (need to verify I have the right stuff) and
  just paint it on a little at a time until it's just a bit higher
  than
  the surrounding area, let harden for a month, and then sand down
  with
  800 or 1000 grit paper and call it a day.
  Maybe this bass would be worth some day, but I'll be quite dead by
  then and won't give a tinkers damn. So, might as well just give  
 it a
  go myself and then take it in if I can't get it just right. After
  all,
  it'll never be perfect no matter what unless it was completely
  stripped and redone.
 
  tnx,
 
  On Oct 9, 2009, at 11:32 PM, Spiro wrote:
 
  considering all that you said; if it were one of mine (My
  Steinberger full
  body which they could only match the blue at the factory) I'd  
 leave
  it to
  the best shop in town. But if it were a more common, (as in
  available, not
  lesser quality) I might rub it with a fine grit till just but the
  last bit
  of smooth was gone, and see if that takes the problem area down.
  Make a
  few recordings with the natural neck (assuming that is where the
  problem
  is, take down just that area) and see if it makes any difference.
  Then
  take it to be touched up and request their advice of finishes for
  sound.
  Or, take it to them, ask them to take just the finish down, and
  take
  it
  back home to record it. No that you can't hear it from an amp
  session, but
  recording saves it as well in case you want to take it back to  
 the
  previous, you'll have the event.
 
  On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Scott Howell wrote:
 
  You are correct TOm that it would decrease the value, but to be
  perfectly honest, it isn't worth much now any way. When I
  purchased
  it, I paid $900 or so for it. If I were to sell it today, it  
 would
  fetch a price of around $500 to $600 and with the damage fixed  
 and
  only if it was so fixed you wouldn't notice it, that may not
  affect
  the price to much. Point is I have nothing to loose since I have
  no
  plans to ever sell it. At this point a new one would actually  
 cost
  me
  $1,500 since Fender raised their price a good deal, but doesn't
  seem
  to affect the resale value much.
  You do however make a good point about the impact on the resale.
  Of
  course I probably wouldn't fix it myself. I'd have it done
  properly,
  but I would on the other hand strip it down myself and do
  something
  different.
  On Oct 6, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Tom Hodges wrote:
 
  I would take it to the professionals to fix as any home repair
  will
  decrease
  the value of it.
 
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Scott Howell
  Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 1:17 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Stripping and a Finishing Touch
 
  Well I asked my wife about this, but nearly got slapped, so
  thought I
  should ask you guys and oh yeah gals as well. Okay, just  
 kidding,
  but
  grabbed your attention didn't I?
  So, I have a Fender Jazz bass that for some inexplicable reason
  developed a crack in the coating which is some type of urithane
  (spelled incorrectly of course) and I did not realize this  
 until
  something snagged on my shirt and pulled a good piece of the
  material
  off the edge. So, now I'm faced with two options. One is take
  it to
  the shop to have this problem repaired since they have the
  experience,
  tools, and materials to do the job right. I'm not honestly sure
  what
  the stuff is that they put on there at the factory. The other
  option
  is to finish what has already started and remove all that  
 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

2009-10-20 Thread Scott Howell
I second that. I still have one sitting on the shelf cause the little  
piece of metal that was attached to the door fell off. I can't recall  
if it is the exact same brand, but certainly has the same voice.
On Oct 20, 2009, at 12:37 PM, Matt wrote:

 Well, you are tenacious.
 After I bought my first one and it didn't last long, I gave up on  
 them all together.
 Too much money for something which didn't work.
 But I loved the idea of it.

 - Original Message -
 From: Lenny McHugh
 To: handyman-blind
 Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:06 AM
 Subject: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

 Well, I am quite upset with the cobolt talking tape measures. About  
 a year
 ago I was in the middle of a project and my talking tape measure  
 went South.
 So I ordered a replacement and sent the broken one across the big  
 pond for
 repair. When it came back I just put it away for a backup. Well  
 today in the
 middle of another project the second unit totally went goofy. I  
 replaced the
 battery and it worked for a while. Then I had the tape out about 15  
 inches
 and the unit told me 4 and 3/8 inches. Left it shut off and then  
 pulled out
 the tape a few inches and was told that it is 1/4 inch. And now it  
 won't
 talk. So I pulled out the one that was repaired and it does not  
 talk, that
 is what I sent back to have fixed. I guess I will purchase another  
 and send
 these two back for repair.
 When I send them back I will send them free matter. That is the way  
 that the
 last one was sent to me. Once before I had the first unit repaired  
 and it
 cost me $35 for shipping. So this time I will use the free matter as  
 I did
 the last time. It did not add that much time and I am in no hurry to  
 get
 them back since I will have one shipped secondday.
 ---
 Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and  
 humorous
 with many resources for the blind.
 http://www.lennymchugh.com
 Lenny
 Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line  
 when
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[BlindHandyMan] Talking tape Measure

2009-10-20 Thread RJ
Have one and think it is great and accurate. Here is the info on it.
RJ

Cobolt Talking Tape Measure Description and Operating Instructions
Talking tape measure General Description and Operation
The features of your tape measure are described below assuming that you are 
holding the device with its sloping edge to the upper left and the belt clip 
facing away from you.

Button Location and Function
There are five buttons on the front face of the case. Two large ones on the 
top row and three smaller ones on the bottom row. Pressing any of these will 
have the effect of turning the unit on. If the tape is not fully retracted 
when you turn the unit on you will hear a warning message.

The top left button will advise you of the total distance stored in the 
memory. If you press it twice within two seconds the memory will be cleared.

The top right button is used to switch between feet and inches, millimetres, 
centimetres and metres. This button will also convert any measurements 
between these units.

The bottom left button adds the current reading to the memory. The maximum 
distance which can be stored in the memory is nine hundred and ninety nine 
metres.

The bottom centre button re-sets the tape to zero. This can be done with the 
tape extended to enable you to compare sizes. It is also possible to measure 
negative distances in situations where the second measurement is less than 
the first.

The bottom right button adds the width of the case to the measurement.
Normally the spoken distance represents the length of tape which has been 
pulled out but sometimes it is more convenient to use the back edge of the 
case -
for example if you wish to measure the internal width of a door frame. A 
second press of this button deducts the case width and returns the reading 
to normal.

If the tape is fully retracted the unit will turn itself off after ten 
seconds. If the tape is extended this will happen after thirty seconds. In 
either event you will be warned five seconds before turn off. Once the tape 
measure has turned off the current measurement will be lost but the contents 
of the memory will remain intact.

Extending and Retracting The Tape
The tape can be felt protruding from the bottom left edge of the case. To 
extend the tape it should be pulled out to the left. The flat sloping edge 
is a button used to retract the tape. This should be pressed at its lower 
edge.

WARNING. Use your free hand to control the speed at which the tape retracts. 
If left free it may retract rapidly and cause injury.

Using The Tape Measure To Describe an Arc
On the bottom edge of the case you will feel a deep groove slightly to the 
right of centre, running front to back. The right side of the base can be 
pressed open using a fingernail in this groove. This flap can then be opened 
fully until it is in line with the base. You will feel a sharp metal point 
on this flap which can be used as a pivot if you wish to describe an arc 
with the tape.
For measurement purposes the point is the same distance from the back of the 
case as the first hole in the tape is from the end of the tape so if you 
place the point of a pencil in the first hole and use this to draw a circle 
or arc the radius will be the measurement spoken which includes the case. 
i.e. to draw a one metre radius circle extend the tape until it says one 
metre including case.

Battery
The battery compartment is on the rear of the case. To remove the cover hold 
the case back uppermost with the sloping edge facing away from you. Support 
the case with your fingers underneath and your thumbs on top on the flat 
section closer to you than the belt clip.
You will feel the ribbed surface of the battery cover under your thumbs.

With your thumbs as close as possible to the edge of the raised section 
press firmly down with your thumbs to release the catches and slide the 
cover off towards you.

Re-fitting is done by sliding the cover back until it engages with an 
audible click.
A replacement battery is available from Vision Australia under product code 
CP17.

Further Details and Specifications:
List of 5 items
. Tape Length 16 feet/5 metres.
. Max in Memory 999 Metres.
. Accuracy 16th of an inch/1mm.
. Resolution 1/16th of an inch/1mm.
. Battery 1 x PP3 9v Alkaline.(NB: Vision Australia does not guarantee 
batteries)





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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Basement floor project.

2009-10-20 Thread Jewel
With the time and effort you would save, your delayed project schedule would 
soon be up to speed 
again!

 Jewel
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Rossi d...@andrew.cmu.edu
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Basement floor project.


Jewel,

I have a feeling my neighbors might also have a say in my building a winch
and log slide on the main stairs to our courtyard.  Most of them would
probably be up for it though.  Just as long as I could keep the kids off
of it.

Of course, by the time I built the damn thing all my other projects would
be way behind schedule.  *GRIN*


-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi 




Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

2009-10-20 Thread Matt
Just a clip out of the file which talks about the two.

The Rotomatic. The Rotomatic consists of a six and a half-inch long threaded 
steel rod with a large rotating rectangular measuring nut or fence that can be 
moved precisely along the threads and locked in place with a hexagonal locking 
nut. The dimensions of the rectangular measuring nut are five-eighths inches 
wide by fifteen-sixteenths inches long and exactly one-quarter inch thick. 
There is a scored line or notch on the side of the measuring nut. When that 
notch points up, the nut is at a measurement that is an exact multiple of 
one-sixteenth inch, either zero, one-sixteenth, one-eighth, three-sixteenths, 
one-quarter, five-sixteenths, three-eighths, etc.  The three-eighths inch 
diameter threaded rod has raised threads at every half-inch interval to 
tactually determine the half-inch increments. The Rotomatic threads are 
machined precisely one-sixteenth inch apart so that a full turn of the 
measuring nut moves it one-sixteenth inch, a half turn moves it 
one-thirty-second inch, a quarter turn moves it one-sixty-fourth inch and a 
lesser turn moves it proportionately even a shorter distance. The Rotomatic can 
measure with an accuracy of one-sixty-fourth-inch and it can be used to 
transfer any non-numeric distance. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Hodges 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:36 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure


Do you know the name of that other measuring device besides a click ruler?
  I think it is somewhat similar to a click ruler but I don't know what it is.

  Tom

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:52 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

  Now, if they would create a talking click rule? hahah,
  I am considering buying a second click rule.
  So many things I have to center.
  I've been clampping the click rule to my pieces, and using it to center, and
  sometimes I have to push the piece back and forth until I am satisfied that
  it is as close to center as possible.
  Train car rooves and so on.

  Matt
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Hodges 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:54 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

  I think the reason they don't do anything to improve the talking tape
  measure is because they have no competition, so they just keep selling a low
  quality product.

  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ]
  On Behalf Of Eric
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:20 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

  Tell me about it! I have gone through at least 8 or 9 of these things. I 
  can't understand why they can't make them a little more durable.

  Eric

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net mailto:lmchugh%40verizon.net 
  To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:06 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] talking tape measure

   Well, I am quite upset with the cobolt talking tape measures. About a year
   ago I was in the middle of a project and my talking tape measure went 
   South.
   So I ordered a replacement and sent the broken one across the big pond for
   repair. When it came back I just put it away for a backup. Well today in 
   the
   middle of another project the second unit totally went goofy. I replaced 
   the
   battery and it worked for a while. Then I had the tape out about 15 inches
   and the unit told me 4 and 3/8 inches. Left it shut off and then pulled 
   out
   the tape a few inches and was told that it is 1/4 inch. And now it won't
   talk. So I pulled out the one that was repaired and it does not talk, that
   is what I sent back to have fixed. I guess I will purchase another and 
   send
   these two back for repair.
   When I send them back I will send them free matter. That is the way that 
   the
   last one was sent to me. Once before I had the first unit repaired and it
   cost me $35 for shipping. So this time I will use the free matter as I did
   the last time. It did not add that much time and I am in no hurry to get
   them back since I will have one shipped secondday.
   ---
   Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous
   with many resources for the blind.
   http://www.lennymchugh.com
   Lenny
   Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when
   addressing.
   Help stop identity theft.
  
  
  
   

Re: [BlindHandyMan] How level is level.

2009-10-20 Thread JMPease
No.  My basement drops 1 inch every 10 feet and it has never been remarked 
upon.  Noticable when measuring for paneling, however.

Joe

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: Blind Handyman List 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:43 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] How level is level.


OK, so now that I got my head out of my ass and will use my water level 
  next chance I get, how level is level? Sure sure, you want that floor 
  dead flat level so that a ball baring wouldn't roll anywhere, but let's 
  get real. Over a 15 foot span, what is noticeable by a person? Walking 
  around in a 15 foot square room, would you notice a half inch difference 
  from one side to another?

  Thanks.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


  


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[BlindHandyMan] have ya used the rotomatic?

2009-10-20 Thread Matt
Seems like we discussed this before I chose the clickrule, but I can't remember 
the info shared concerning the rotomatic.
Anyone got an opinion or experience to share?
Never seen one myself.
You have to turn a nut do ya?
Is that dificult while the ruler is on the wood?

Matt

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] have ya used the rotomatic?

2009-10-20 Thread wstephan

`I have both, and aside from the difference in accuracy, what you're mainly 
going to use the thing for wil probably determine which you should buy.  The 
click rule is accurate to 1/16 inch, whereas the rotomatic is accurac\te down 
to 1.64 inch and more if you like to estimate.  If you're going to be measuring 
a lot, then the click rule is quicker and easier.  If you need 1/64 accuracy or 
are going to use the tool like a measuring gauge say for cutting or drilling, 
then probably the 
rotomatic is what you want.  
both are very nice and well-thought-out tools though.


Bill Stephan 
Kansas Citty MO 
Email: wstep...@everestkc.net 
Phone: (816)803-2469


- Original Message -
From: Matt mattmull...@suddenlink.net
Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:15 pm
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] have ya used the rotomatic?
 Seems like we discussed this before I chose the clickrule, but I 
 can't remember the info shared concerning the rotomatic. 
 Anyone got an opinion or experience to share? 
 Never seen one myself. 
 You have to turn a nut do ya? 
 Is that dificult while the ruler is on the wood? 
 
 Matt 
 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] have ya used the rotomatic?

2009-10-20 Thread Lenny McHugh
I keep thinking about purchasing a click rule and maybe a new roto-matic. I 
really like my rotomatic but it is a little more time consuming to use than 
the new style. Mine was made at Overbrook School for the Blind near 
Philadelphia. It was invented there about 1950. A friend who was in school 
at that time helped to produce them. What I don't like about the original is 
that the threaded rod part is 12.5 inches long and only two extensions one 
24 inches long and one 12 inches long. You can only use one extension at a 
time.It is a pain if you want to make a measurement a little over 12 inches 
you must spin the measuring block and lock nut all the way down then back 
the length for something close to 24 inches. I think that the new style has 
a 6 inch threaded rod and multiple extensions.
- Original Message - 
From: wstep...@everestkc.net
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] have ya used the rotomatic?



`I have both, and aside from the difference in accuracy, what you're mainly 
going to use the thing for wil probably determine which you should buy.  The 
click rule is accurate to 1/16 inch, whereas the rotomatic is accurac\te 
down to 1.64 inch and more if you like to estimate.  If you're going to be 
measuring a lot, then the click rule is quicker and easier.  If you need 
1/64 accuracy or are going to use the tool like a measuring gauge say for 
cutting or drilling, then probably the
rotomatic is what you want.
both are very nice and well-thought-out tools though.


Bill Stephan
Kansas Citty MO
Email: wstep...@everestkc.net
Phone: (816)803-2469


- Original Message -
From: Matt mattmull...@suddenlink.net
Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:15 pm
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] have ya used the rotomatic?
 Seems like we discussed this before I chose the clickrule, but I
 can't remember the info shared concerning the rotomatic.
 Anyone got an opinion or experience to share?
 Never seen one myself.
 You have to turn a nut do ya?
 Is that dificult while the ruler is on the wood?

 Matt

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