RE: [BlindHandyMan] putting up shelves

2006-10-22 Thread Robert J. Moore
Dale 
Are you talking about making free standing shelves?




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Re: [BlindHandyMan] putting up shelves

2006-10-22 Thread rj
Did the same system here. Except I did it with 7/16 OSB board in the
basement and garage. Several people liked the system and did the same in
their garage and basement. In the basement I screwed 2x4 to the plate and
screwed the bracket rail to the 2x4 in a area that is shaped like a J.
Giving me   shelving 8x 12x25 feet four shelves high, or a total of 180
feet. Sure improved the basement by giving us a lot of storage at a very
reasonable cost.
RJ

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Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] putting up shelves


 Hi Robert.

 You can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs.  Shelf brackets have
to
 be secured to the studs and to do that you need to put long screws through
 the paneling into the studs.  Sue and I did this very thing within the
last
 year.  The best and best looking is a system that is available from Lowe's
 and Ace hardware and I imagine any home improvement store.  There are
 vertical metal rails that mount to the studs with wood screws.  There are
 slots in the rails that hold horizontal metal shelf supports.  They slide
in
 and down, locking in place.  Then you set the shelves on top of the
 supports.  It usually takes a little tapping with a hammer to make the
 supports go all the way down and lock securely into the vertical rails.
The
 shelves, which are particle board covered with something like Formica,
come
 in lengths of 2, 4, and 6 feet, and widths of 8, 10, and 12 inches.  The
 metal parts are painted the same color as the shelf finish.  Hope this
 helps.

 Regards.

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 Subject: [BlindHandyMan] putting up shelves


  My wife and I have an over abundence of stuff. Most of it i call jjunk
but
  that is my opinion not hers.
  I have an extra bedroom that is just a large storage closet at this time
  and
  I also have a lot of wall space upstairs that could be put to good use.
  My question is what would be the most cost affective way of putting up
an
  extreme amount of shelving without looking too tacky  and doing minimal
  damage to the panniling. The walls in this house are all pannelled, save
  the
  bathroom.
  I need help before I find myself baried under a huge pile of boxes.
 
 
 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] putting up shelves

2006-10-22 Thread Tom Fowle
robert,
what we have, and they are un fancy in the extreme, are many sets
of steel utility shelving from Sears or the like.

they're often not much more than $25.00 or so for an 18 by 36
inch unit 6 feet high with 5 shelves.  clunky in the extreme, but
easy to put together with only a screwdriver and pretty cheap.
And you don't have to bolt them to anything unless you're in
earth quake territory and care. elegant it ain't. but effective.

tom


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] putting up shelves

2006-10-22 Thread Dale Leavens
That was going to be my suggestion too, there is a huge variety of that sort 
of shelving available and of varying grades to very substantial. 
Alternately, you could build free standing units, this is not necessarily 
cheap but it does preserve the paneling in the event you don't always want 
shelves there.

Drywall and plaster can always be patched and repainted but the paneling 
will remain more holy than righteous.

Building I would recommend nothing less than three quarters plywood and you 
might like to use solid wood to form face frames or apply that edging to 
cover the edge of the wood. Not cheap but you can customize for a good fit.


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Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] putting up shelves


 robert,
 what we have, and they are un fancy in the extreme, are many sets
 of steel utility shelving from Sears or the like.

 they're often not much more than $25.00 or so for an 18 by 36
 inch unit 6 feet high with 5 shelves.  clunky in the extreme, but
 easy to put together with only a screwdriver and pretty cheap.
 And you don't have to bolt them to anything unless you're in
 earth quake territory and care. elegant it ain't. but effective.

 tom


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] putting up shelves

2006-10-22 Thread Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
Robert,
We have shelving from Cosco. They are like very heavy wire and each 
shelf will hold 600 pounds. They are almost five feet long and 
seventeen inches deep. There are six shelves. You can also make them 
only three shelves high and almost ten feet long. They have really 
heavy-duty rollers and they can be locked to stay in place. The 
height of the shelves is adjustable. We are in earthquake territory 
and those shelves didn't move a bit. I stack 35 pound boxes of 
braille paper on them and I've seen no sign of warping. I believe we 
paid about $60 for them six years ago, and since we're in Hawaii, you 
can probably get them cheaper wherever you are.
Betsy
At 06:20 AM 10/22/2006, you wrote:
robert,
what we have, and they are un fancy in the extreme, are many sets
of steel utility shelving from Sears or the like.

they're often not much more than $25.00 or so for an 18 by 36
inch unit 6 feet high with 5 shelves.  clunky in the extreme, but
easy to put together with only a screwdriver and pretty cheap.
And you don't have to bolt them to anything unless you're in
earth quake territory and care. elegant it ain't. but effective.

tom


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RE: [BlindHandyMan] putting up shelves

2006-10-22 Thread William Stephan
I have something similar in my basement, just steel frames and press
board inserts, but they work fine and I don't feel bad if I slop paint
or whatever on them.


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robert,
what we have, and they are un fancy in the extreme, are many sets
of steel utility shelving from Sears or the like.

they're often not much more than $25.00 or so for an 18 by 36
inch unit 6 feet high with 5 shelves.  clunky in the extreme, but
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And you don't have to bolt them to anything unless you're in
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] putting up shelves

2006-10-22 Thread R S Enterprises
My experience has been the brackets cost less than the snap in brackets and 
then you still have to buy the wall standreds.  The wall pieces also hold 
the shelves away from the wall unless you notch for them and the premade 
shelves arn't always the right width for the snap in brackets.  With the 
wall angles you can also put a screw in from the bottom making the shelf 
more secure.  Of course once built there is no adjustment, but less cost.
Ron
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 Max
 I am very fermillier  with that system and have useed them many times. I 
 do
 like the versitility. Do you think they would be less expensive than just
 using l brackets?
 depending on how many shelves I will put up that can still runn into some
 bucks. Looks like they are going to be my best bet but those rails have
 gotten kind of expensive.
 Thanks



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[BlindHandyMan] putting up shelves

2006-10-21 Thread Robert J. Moore
My wife and I have an over abundence of stuff. Most of it i call jjunk but
that is my opinion not hers.
I have an extra bedroom that is just a large storage closet at this time and
I also have a lot of wall space upstairs that could be put to good use.
My question is what would be the most cost affective way of putting up an
extreme amount of shelving without looking too tacky  and doing minimal
damage to the panniling. The walls in this house are all pannelled, save the
bathroom.
I need help before I find myself baried under a huge pile of boxes.



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] putting up shelves

2006-10-21 Thread Max Robinson
Hi Robert.

You can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs.  Shelf brackets have to 
be secured to the studs and to do that you need to put long screws through 
the paneling into the studs.  Sue and I did this very thing within the last 
year.  The best and best looking is a system that is available from Lowe's 
and Ace hardware and I imagine any home improvement store.  There are 
vertical metal rails that mount to the studs with wood screws.  There are 
slots in the rails that hold horizontal metal shelf supports.  They slide in 
and down, locking in place.  Then you set the shelves on top of the 
supports.  It usually takes a little tapping with a hammer to make the 
supports go all the way down and lock securely into the vertical rails.  The 
shelves, which are particle board covered with something like Formica, come 
in lengths of 2, 4, and 6 feet, and widths of 8, 10, and 12 inches.  The 
metal parts are painted the same color as the shelf finish.  Hope this 
helps.

Regards.

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- Original Message - 
From: Robert J. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Blind Handyman blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:36 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] putting up shelves


 My wife and I have an over abundence of stuff. Most of it i call jjunk but
 that is my opinion not hers.
 I have an extra bedroom that is just a large storage closet at this time 
 and
 I also have a lot of wall space upstairs that could be put to good use.
 My question is what would be the most cost affective way of putting up an
 extreme amount of shelving without looking too tacky  and doing minimal
 damage to the panniling. The walls in this house are all pannelled, save 
 the
 bathroom.
 I need help before I find myself baried under a huge pile of boxes.



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RE: [BlindHandyMan] putting up shelves

2006-10-21 Thread Robert J. Moore
Max
I am very fermillier  with that system and have useed them many times. I do
like the versitility. Do you think they would be less expensive than just
using l brackets?
depending on how many shelves I will put up that can still runn into some
bucks. Looks like they are going to be my best bet but those rails have
gotten kind of expensive.
Thanks



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] putting up shelves

2006-10-21 Thread Dale Leavens
The trouble with panneling is that screw holes persist.

You want shelving which does not put holes in the walls.

This usually means shelves with end pannels which usually means ripping 
plywood.



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- Original Message - 
From: Robert J. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Blind Handyman blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:36 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] putting up shelves


 My wife and I have an over abundence of stuff. Most of it i call jjunk but
 that is my opinion not hers.
 I have an extra bedroom that is just a large storage closet at this time 
 and
 I also have a lot of wall space upstairs that could be put to good use.
 My question is what would be the most cost affective way of putting up an
 extreme amount of shelving without looking too tacky  and doing minimal
 damage to the panniling. The walls in this house are all pannelled, save 
 the
 bathroom.
 I need help before I find myself baried under a huge pile of boxes.



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