Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee
Hi, to sum things up as I have an impression they are diesred: - We would nominate Thorsten as election officer (who then would step back as MC deputy), - and we would like to elect 5 members and 2 deputies in the new MC, - and we don't want to freeze membership applications. Please, all BoD members, cast your vote on these topics in case you haven't yet. What we should agree on soon is whether to run the vote just now and wait with the legal set-up until the Foundation is in existence, or whether we take the existing MC (needing a deputy for Thorsten, since he's in the BoD already) and have a gentlemen's agreement that they step back on let's say effective July 1st. I am in favor of this solution. André, did the MC discuss that during yesterday's call? In case we go with the July-1st-solution, all current MC members need to agree to be willing to serve in the legal body of the future Foundation and be mentioned in the founding documents. I'm pushing here a bit since November 4th, on which your timeline is based, is close. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Board of Directors at The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee
Em 01-11-2011 11:26, Florian Effenberger escreveu: Hi, to sum things up as I have an impression they are diesred: - We would nominate Thorsten as election officer (who then would step back as MC deputy), +1 - and we would like to elect 5 members and 2 deputies in the new MC, +1 - and we don't want to freeze membership applications. +1 Please, all BoD members, cast your vote on these topics in case you haven't yet. What we should agree on soon is whether to run the vote just now and wait with the legal set-up until the Foundation is in existence, or whether we take the existing MC (needing a deputy for Thorsten, since he's in the BoD already) and have a gentlemen's agreement that they step back on let's say effective July 1st. I am in favor of this solution. André, did the MC discuss that during yesterday's call? In case we go with the July-1st-solution, all current MC members need to agree to be willing to serve in the legal body of the future Foundation and be mentioned in the founding documents. I'm pushing here a bit since November 4th, on which your timeline is based, is close. Florian -- Olivier Hallot Founder, Board of Directors Member - The Document Foundation LibreOffice translation leader for Brazilian Portuguese +55-21-8822-8812 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee
Florian Effenberger wrote: - and we would like to elect 5 members and 2 deputies in the new MC, +1 - and we don't want to freeze membership applications. +1 (going with the flow :)) take the existing MC (needing a deputy for Thorsten, since he's in the BoD already) and have a gentlemen's agreement that they step back on let's say effective July 1st. +1 Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee
On Tue, 2011-11-01 at 14:26 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote: - We would nominate Thorsten as election officer (who then would step back as MC deputy), +1 - and we would like to elect 5 members and 2 deputies in the new MC, +1 - and we don't want to freeze membership applications. +1 we take the existing MC (needing a deputy for Thorsten, since he's in the BoD already) and have a gentlemen's agreement that they step back on let's say effective July 1st. OK -- Italo Vignoli tel +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 it...@italovignoli.com skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I have assumed that Thorsten has not stepped down from MC or something. Whatever he was stepping down from was in order for him to be able to do some work that he is being blocked from doing anyway right? So until the job needs to be started i think Thorsten is still on whatever it was he was going to step down from. Sorry, i just got a bit muddled. The MC is in charge of supervising the BoD election so clearly someone running for a BoD possition cannot be member of the MC The MC is in charge of supervising Solemn Address and Impeachment of the Board of Directors. again that create a conflict of interest if one is allowed to be BoD member and MC member. So, MC membership and BoD membership and candidacy are mutually exclusive. This has been overlooked during this election cycle. Thorsthen should have resigned of his MC position as soon as he declared his intention to run for a BoD position. I don;t think that there is any suspicion that this 'irregularity' had any impact on the election, and clearly Thorsten election and behavior are beyond reproach. Still, The forms do matter, and even the impression of impropriety can create un-welcomed drama/suspiction/FUD etc... Hence the necessity to rectify the situation, hence Thorsten stepping down from his MC responsibilities. Does that clarifies it ? Norbert -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee
Hi :) Yes, thanks :) I thought there was an impending problem rather than an existing problem. I doubt anyone here minds and even the most determined drone would have trouble trying to state a case even if there were an objection. So, it's all good Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 1/11/11, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: From: Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Date: Tuesday, 1 November, 2011, 15:16 On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I have assumed that Thorsten has not stepped down from MC or something. Whatever he was stepping down from was in order for him to be able to do some work that he is being blocked from doing anyway right? So until the job needs to be started i think Thorsten is still on whatever it was he was going to step down from. Sorry, i just got a bit muddled. The MC is in charge of supervising the BoD election so clearly someone running for a BoD possition cannot be member of the MC The MC is in charge of supervising Solemn Address and Impeachment of the Board of Directors. again that create a conflict of interest if one is allowed to be BoD member and MC member. So, MC membership and BoD membership and candidacy are mutually exclusive. This has been overlooked during this election cycle. Thorsthen should have resigned of his MC position as soon as he declared his intention to run for a BoD position. I don;t think that there is any suspicion that this 'irregularity' had any impact on the election, and clearly Thorsten election and behavior are beyond reproach. Still, The forms do matter, and even the impression of impropriety can create un-welcomed drama/suspiction/FUD etc... Hence the necessity to rectify the situation, hence Thorsten stepping down from his MC responsibilities. Does that clarifies it ? Norbert -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
