Re: A year ago today...
Doug Pensinger wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:35:02 -0800 (PST), Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: When *is* the List anniversary? (Yes, I *could* look it up, but I'm trying to improve my willingness to learn from the more-experienced... ;} ) I'm not sure how you would look it up. The list pre-dates the (woefully inadiquate) list archive at Yahoo. Julia would know for sure, but I'll guess it was somewhere around August, 1995. I didn't join until early 1996, but I do remember that the party was planned for July in whatever year it was planned, so that would tend to confirm Doug's estimate... Cheers Russell C. not a newbie anymore... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Explanation
Julia Thompson wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: I HAVE NO KILLFILE. The first one saying I have a killfile ... will ... be ... eh ... smothered in ...eh ... chocolate sause. ;o) And this would be bad how? :) Eh Well it is awfully messy? Or something hm I guess you're telling me that it is not enough deterrence. I'll think of something else then. ;o) Julia funny, didn't have massive chocolate cravings while I was pregnant this time around, have them now. Me too. But I've started to not have chocolate around. Else I'll grow too much in all the wrong directions. :o) Sonja ;o) GCU: Chocolatea ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: So a Christian, a Moslem, and a Buddhist walk into a Bar Mitzvah ..
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/16/2003 6:25:14 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: Is it just me? Date:11/16/2003 6:25:14 PM US Mountain Standard Time From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John D. Giorgis) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Killer Bs Discussion) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...or is there anyone else who feels a little sick to read christian dreams of murder 20-30 teams in his Brin-Inbox?? Please folks, let's change the title of this discussion. Thanks. JDG - Who guesses that he probably contibuted to this propogation at one point or another. Five. So a Christian, a Moslem, and a Buddhist walk into a Bar Mitzvah .. (Just in case your title gets cut short.) That should be enough. William Taylor Back to more usual nonsense. ROTFLMAO Don't ever do that again when I'm drinking coffee. Now I have to wipe the keyboard. Sonja :O) GCU: Still chuckling ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Horsepower for Dakar commuters
Deborah Harrell wrote: Score one for the hayburners! :D I hope they are making provisions for watering troughs; when I was in New Orleans in 1997, I was very pleased with the condition of the horses and mules I saw in the cabbie lines - the stand had abundant fresh water, and I didn't see any open sores or underweight animals. With reasonable care, a horse can work for about 12-13 years (I'm allowing for less veterinary care there, but assuming at least some grain supplementation and shoeing - in the West a pleasure horse can be expected to be rideable for at least 20 years), and composted manure (takes about a year to ripen properly without solar tumblers) is excellent for vegetable gardens. Tail hair can be made into ropes, belts and decorative items (hatbands, woven bracelets etc.)...OK, I'll halt there... ;) In a couple of other countries where the horses and donkeys are used similarly the Brook hospital for animals with as its main target those to their owners vital animals has done some very good work by providing just that. A place out of the sun to wait for costumers and a trough to water and when needed even basic free medical service. The key to a better future though is eduction of the owners and that is what they eventually aim at. With succes. I've seen a couple of documentaries on their work and they are doing very nice and sensible things to improve horses and donkeys lives in f.i. egypt. http://www.brooke-hospital.org.uk/brooke/homeframe.html Sonja GCU: Yihaw ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: [Listref] Cocoa antioxidants
Julia Thompson wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Deborah Harrell wrote: Debbi who found that, when camping, instant hot cocoa is pretty good with a dollop of peppermint schnapps... :} Don't tempt me. :) Julia off alcohol for awhile When I was still nursing Tom, I used to drink one or two glasses of dark ale a day (Heineken* dark that is). It was very soothing and since there are a lot of sugars in it, it was also very nourishing. I wouldn't have thought of it myself but the midwife highly recommended it... grin. * Yeah shoot me. I voluntarily drank Heineken and I liked it. But only the dark ale, their pilsener you can keep. Sonja :o) GCU: Bottoms up xGCU: Duvel still is my favourite www.duvel.be http://www.duvel.be ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
[ATL] Carlson self balancing hinges
Somehow this seems to have got lost the first time I sent it. So I try this again. Sorry if that makes it a repeat. __ How can I get hold of the adress for the Dutch, German or if need be any Belgian importer or distributor of self balancing hinges for toyboxes from Carlson Capitol Mfg. Inc.? They don't seem to have a website or something else that is easily accesible to me. So far I've got the adress of them in Rockford, IL. a telephone and fax number and a couple of US companies that retail but don't export the product. I know where the company itself they exports their products but that ain't to our part of Europe. The hinges (left, right and center) only cost a couple of quit and I need them badly because my mom yesterday brought me my wonderfull but because of the big heavy lid at the moment to Tom rather dangerous toychest. It's a sentimental piece that I'd rather not change too much because my dad once made it for me. So now I really really wanne use it. I discovered the selfbalencing hinges in another toychest in Tom's room we recently bought and they are wonderfull in keeping the lid balanced (i.e. not slamming the lid down the last moment on closing as most other lidsupports do). Anybody who can help me out pls. contact me off-list. See for info on the hinge: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/074.html Sonja GCU: Thanks ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question re: 'spyware'
Julia Thompson wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 02:28 PM 10/25/03 +0200, Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: And having zone alarm is nice too (except for the fact that it takes a little longer to fully boot your machine that is). It prevents your pooter from going places you don't want it to go and vice versa. Pooter must not have the same implications in Europe as it does here . . . I usually see it spelled 'puter. Yes but pooter is closer to the phonetic capabillities of Tom. The way Tom says 'poo-wter'. Pjuter is simply beyond him. Leaves the question what the implication is when it is spelled that way for non Euros? We say it a lot here. :) We also write sketti on the shopping list part of the whiteboard in the pantry when we are running low on pasta. One wonders who is teaching who. We do that here too. We have to be a bit more carefull though, because at times we use the childidles toward people who don't know us. By now we know something in our phrasing is wrong when we get that slightly confused pitified look. Sonja :o) GCU: Childs eh ... babble ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question re: 'spyware'
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Pooter must not have the same implications in Europe as it does here . . . I usually see it spelled 'puter. Yes but pooter is closer to the phonetic capabillities of Tom. The way Tom says 'poo-wter'. Pjuter is simply beyond him. Leaves the question what the implication is when it is spelled that way for non Euros? One who is passing gas. We say it a lot here. :) We also write sketti on the shopping list part of the whiteboard in the pantry when we are running low on pasta. One wonders who is teaching who. We do that here too. We have to be a bit more carefull though, because at times we use the childidles toward people who don't know us. By now we know something in our phrasing is wrong when we get that slightly confused pitified look. Most of our friends understand. We're careful of how we talk to our parents. :) The woman we hired to help me out during the day uses poot a lot. Then again, considering how often the babies do it, *some* term for it has to be used, and it's a nicer term somehow than fart, especially if you're talking about a baby. Was that just a poot, or was he filling his diaper? (Either way, it's noisy) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question re: 'spyware' WARNING: Bathroom Humo(u)r
At 05:44 PM 11/18/03 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 02:28 PM 10/25/03 +0200, Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: And having zone alarm is nice too (except for the fact that it takes a little longer to fully boot your machine that is). It prevents your pooter from going places you don't want it to go and vice versa. Pooter must not have the same implications in Europe as it does here . . . I usually see it spelled 'puter. Yes but pooter is closer to the phonetic capabillities of Tom. The way Tom says 'poo-wter'. Pjuter is simply beyond him. Leaves the question what the implication is when it is spelled that way for non Euros? Are you familiar with the Ode to a Veggie?: Beans, beans, the musical fruit, The more you eat, the more you poot . . . IOW, poot .eq. fart .eq. to release flatulence from the intestines . . . --Ronn! :) Bathroom humor is an American-Standard. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question re: 'spyware'
At 01:11 PM 11/18/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Pooter must not have the same implications in Europe as it does here . . . I usually see it spelled 'puter. Yes but pooter is closer to the phonetic capabillities of Tom. The way Tom says 'poo-wter'. Pjuter is simply beyond him. Leaves the question what the implication is when it is spelled that way for non Euros? One who is passing gas. We say it a lot here. :) We also write sketti on the shopping list part of the whiteboard in the pantry when we are running low on pasta. One wonders who is teaching who. We do that here too. We have to be a bit more carefull though, because at times we use the childidles toward people who don't know us. By now we know something in our phrasing is wrong when we get that slightly confused pitified look. Most of our friends understand. We're careful of how we talk to our parents. :) The woman we hired to help me out during the day uses poot a lot. Then again, considering how often the babies do it, *some* term for it has to be used, and it's a nicer term somehow than fart, especially if you're talking about a baby. Was that just a poot, or was he filling his diaper? (Either way, it's noisy) For all those not on that other list whose name starts with the letter c, this morning's hot topic there seems to be kitty barf . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: A year ago today...
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deborah Harrell Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 04:35 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: RE: A year ago today... Recently we got a crop of new baristas, and they're driving me crazy. I've got to break them in all over again and train them how to make a latte. (@_@) Ah, my condolences - good help can be so hard to find...and isn't it amazing how so many can refuse to profit from reading an instruction manual, or to learn from those with more experience? innocent look *grumble* Its more that I have an easy-going banter thing with the people who used to work there, but now with the new people they stare at me like I'm a dirty old man when I try to start a conversation with 'em. -j- ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Six Sigma Flatulence
Sounded like an (in)appropriate thread convergence . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
quote from the eddas
Hi all. Hope things are well for all of you. Has there been a slight surge in membership? I sent out my semi-annual 'flyer' a couple of week ago, some of you should have got it. I'm afraid I waited too long. By now, most people have spam filters set to 'high' and I'll bet most of the 500+ people on my recipient list never saw it. If some did, I touted Brin-L. LEt me know if a flood of people came a-knocking. Oh, I received a query from my french translator for THE LIFE EATERS. see below. Are any of you the person who sent me the quote from the Norse Eddas that I used in LE? Thanks and thrive. db From: Lucas Moreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Add to Address Book To: Brin David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Eddas Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:04:21 +0100 Hi again, Did you invent the quotations out of the Eddas or did you really take them from there? If it really comes from the Eddas, could you give me the references (chapter, section, etc.)? Thank you very much, Lucas ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: A year ago today...
Doug Pensinger wrote: I'm not sure how you would look it up. The list pre-dates the (woefully inadiquate) list archive at Yahoo. Julia would know for sure, but I'll guess it was somewhere around August, 1995. Some time after I joined the list, I sent in requests for the list digests from before I joined to the listserv. I kept them, as well as all email I received from the list after I joined. I sent those files in to Jeroen a while back, in the hopes that he would be able to throw together a complete web-based digest of the early list -- a project that fell through, for obvious reasons. I still have zip files containing digests from the early days, from April 15, 1996 to March 1998 -- which reminds me that I need to get around to making them available on a website one of these days. This is the first digest I got, which suggests the list got its first post on April 15, 1996: -- BRIN-L Digest 1 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: your mail by Stewart Blandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Re: your mail by [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 12:03:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Stewart Blandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Stefan, Could you please tell me more about GURPS Uplift. I've never heard about this. I assume it's a role playing game of some kind. There seems to be a source of information on the Uplift universe. Did David Brin write this information or is it speculations by other authors? There's some discrepancy here. Startide Rising seems to state that the Milky Way is Galaxy One. I just recently reread Startide Rising and did not get the impression the Brin was locating it anywhere yet. It is in Brightness that a definitive answer is give (if I can find the page no. I forward it to you) Stewart -- Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 19:39:36 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 96-04-15 16:08:13 EDT, you write: Could you please tell me more about GURPS Uplift. I've never heard about this. GURPS is a role-playing system published by Steve Jackson Games (http://www.io.com/sjgames). GURPS Uplift was a worldbook that let you roleplay in the Uplift universe. It's out of print, and probably will stay that way unless I have time to update it. And people ask for it . . . I assume it's a role playing game of some kind. There seems to be a source of information on the Uplift universe. Oooh yeah. Jam-packed. And some stuff got left out! Did David Brin write this information or is it speculations by other authors? It's either derived from the books, supplied by Dave via notes, or made up by me (and some friends) and given a stamp of approval. (The Jophur/Treakie of Brightness Reef owe some to the Jophur construction kit rules in the game book, which is fine by me!) --Stefan -- End of BRIN-L Digest 1 ** __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: A year ago today...
From: Steve Sloan II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A year ago today... Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:02:11 -0600 Doug Pensinger wrote: I'm not sure how you would look it up. The list pre-dates the (woefully inadiquate) list archive at Yahoo. Julia would know for sure, but I'll guess it was somewhere around August, 1995. Some time after I joined the list, I sent in requests for the list digests from before I joined to the listserv. I kept them, as well as all email I received from the list after I joined. I sent those files in to Jeroen a while back, in the hopes that he would be able to throw together a complete web-based digest of the early list -- a project that fell through, for obvious reasons. I still have zip files containing digests from the early days, from April 15, 1996 to March 1998 -- which reminds me that I need to get around to making them available on a website one of these days. Steve, Would you be willing to email them -- completely at your convenience -- to some of us (ok, me) if we made requests? Just wonderin' TIA, Jon Le Blog: http://zarq.livejournal.com _ Save your conversations with Messenger 6.1. Get it FREE! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: On trolling
Now, if only I could find a Portland Timbers fan on Brin-L to taunt.. ^_^ You Troll Nerd From Hell ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Six Sigma Flatulence
Not really, since the thread is sigmoid in nature. Sigmoid: an S-shaped bend in the colon near the rectum. Nerd From Hell (with a joke only Ronn could appreciate!) -Original Message- From: Ronn!Blankenship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:40 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: RE: Six Sigma Flatulence Sounded like an (in)appropriate thread convergence . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: A year ago today...
Jon Gabriel wrote: Would you be willing to email them -- completely at your convenience -- to some of us (ok, me) if we made requests? I'll be happy to. Just be prepared, because the zip files total a little over 15 MB. They also aren't very organized, with LarryNiven-L posts from the same days mixed in with the Brin-L posts. Want me to go ahead and send them? __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Parenting, was Re: c d of m...
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/17/2003 4:04:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Its certainly true that the actions taken by parents are in response to actions taken by kids. But, I was thinking more of the structure of parenting, not the individual actions, once the if then else structures are in place. I am not sure I can explain this well but there are some studies that show that parenting style is an unconscious response to the childs childing style. The point is that kids have their own agenda that is not that of their parents from the very beginning and that parenting style is really a dance. Some of what we've done with Sammy has been on-the-fly, but when we looked back at what we'd done in response to something and analyzed the situation, most of what we'd done was determined to be a good response, if not the best one. I can already tell that parenting Catherine is going to be somewhat different from parenting Tommy, and not just for gender-difference reasons. They're two very different personalities, and what works for one may not work for the other. But we're starting with some basic assumptions on what is and is not appropriate behavior, and communicating that. And we're choosing what we care most about and concentrating on that. Sammy is somewhat strong-willed, and if you try to enforce your preference on every little thing with a kid like that, nobody is going to be happy. (And Sammy does have his own agenda.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: A year ago today...
Sure, but can you please send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Hotmail acct has a 10MB limit but aol is unlimited. :-) THANK YOU! Jon From: Steve Sloan II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A year ago today... Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:23:04 -0600 Jon Gabriel wrote: Would you be willing to email them -- completely at your convenience -- to some of us (ok, me) if we made requests? I'll be happy to. Just be prepared, because the zip files total a little over 15 MB. They also aren't very organized, with LarryNiven-L posts from the same days mixed in with the Brin-L posts. Want me to go ahead and send them? __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l Le Blog: http://zarq.livejournal.com _ online games and music with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Education
Hi all, My job offers educational reimbursement that I am seriously considering to use to go for a Masters degree, in order to break the cycle of underemployment I'm in. We recently picked up a new person in our department that has an MBA from the University of Phoenix (the O-L people). Are there any opinions on this sort of program? How is an MBA from them viewed by potential employers? How legitimate is it? TIA, Damon. = Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: A year ago today...
Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug Pensinger wrote: Deborah Harrell Question: When *is* the List anniversary? I'm not sure how you would look it up. The list pre-dates the (woefully inadiquate) list archive at Yahoo. Julia would know for sure, but I'll guess it was somewhere around August, 1995. I didn't join until early 1996, but I do remember that the party was planned for July in whatever year it was planned, so that would tend to confirm Doug's estimate... Let's see, so we could use the Fourth of July, or when Cancer becomes Leo, but summer solstice would be too early... ;) Always Looking For Good Excuses To Have A Party Maru __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Resemblances
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Jim Sharkey wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: Damon Agretto wrote: Did he kinda resemble Winston Churchill when he was born? :) Childbirth always seems to look like pulling a tiny Winston Chruchill dipped in forty weight oil out of a taco salad to me. Oh, and if you're trying to avoid looking, don't look at the floor. You don't want to look at the floor. Yeah, that's bad too. And the accompanying PLOP as the placenta is expelled is a little disturbing too. The most amazing at the birth of my first child, outside of the blessed event itself, was that the OB/GYN came into the delivery dressed in white pants and a pastel shirt. He only draped a light covering over himself for the delivery. The entire place looked like an abbatoir, yet somehow, he didn't have a drop of blood on him. It was like he had a force field or something. Jim I have more gross stories if you want them Maru Are they higher on the EWG! factor than having the doctor's arm in up to the elbow without benefit of anesthesia? Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Fox News, we distort, you comply.
Tom wrote: Hmm, interesting perspective. I wonder if the folks in Burbank feel the same way as you do. Which facility were you working for? Burbank? They shut us down to save the existing Lockheed facility in Sunnyvale. But didn't they shut down Burbank, the original home of Lockheed, as well? I worked for the Astro Space division in East Windsor, NJ. (They also shut down the Astro Space plant in Valley Forge, PA.) Not completely. It was originally RCA Astro Space, until GE bought RCA. It became GE Astro Space, and they ruined it by replacing experienced astrospace engineers with inexperienced engineer managers under the asinine belief that a manager who managed a washing machine factory in Memphis could equally well manage a commercial communications satellite facility. It didn't work. So you're saying that they should have shut down Sunnyvale for a facility that, in your own words, was ruined? GE eventually sold us to Martin Marietta. Then Lockheed came in and bought out the Martin Marietta executives and shut us down to save their own factories. Wasn't Augustine from MM? -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: A year ago today...
Jon Gabriel wrote: Would you be willing to email them -- completely at your convenience -- to some of us (ok, me) if we made requests? I would like a copy as well, if it isn't too much trouble... -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: A year ago today...
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Doug Pensinger wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:35:02 -0800 (PST), Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: When *is* the List anniversary? (Yes, I *could* look it up, but I'm trying to improve my willingness to learn from the more-experienced... ;} ) I'm not sure how you would look it up. The list pre-dates the (woefully inadiquate) list archive at Yahoo. Julia would know for sure, but I'll guess it was somewhere around August, 1995. April 1996. I joined in the first or second week. The July date for a get-together was based on more people being able to travel in July than in April. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Horsepower for Dakar commuters
--- Sonja van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: snip I hope they are making provisions for watering troughs; when I was in New Orleans in 1997, I was very pleased with the condition of the horses and mules I saw in the cabbie lines - the stand had abundant fresh water, and I didn't see any open sores or underweight animals. In a couple of other countries where the horses and donkeys are used similarly the Brook hospital for animals with as its main target those to their owners vital animals has done some very good work by providing just that. A place out of the sun to wait for costumers and a trough to water and when needed even basic free medical service. The key to a better future though is eduction of the owners and that is what they eventually aim at. With succes. I've seen a couple of documentaries on their work and they are doing very nice and sensible things to improve horses and donkeys lives in f.i. egypt. http://www.brooke-hospital.org.uk/brooke/homeframe.html Thanks for the link; they are doing good work. I was appalled to read that a 'brick kiln donkey' has a working life as short as 18 months! No wonder, when 'local wisdom' decrees that an animal get no drinking water for the entire day, in temps of 120oF+. Educating the owners makes an equine's life better and longer, and of course increases the work an owner can expect from the animal. Debbi who spent the afternoon riding... :D __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
ATL: Carlson self balancing hinges
How can I get hold of the adress for the Dutch, German or if need be any Belgian importer or distributor of self balancing hinges for toyboxes from Carlson Capitol Mfg. Inc.? They don't seem to have a website or something else that is easily accesible to me. So far I've got the adress of them in Rockford, IL. a telephone and fax number and a couple of US companies that retail but don't export the product. I know where the company itself they exports their products but that ain't to our part of Europe. The hinges (left, right and center) only cost a couple of quit and I need them badly because my mom yesterday brought me my wonderfull but because of the big heavy lid at the moment to Tom rather dangerous toychest. It's a sentimental piece that I'd rather not change too much because my dad once made it for me. So now I really really wanne use it. I discovered the selfbalencing hinges in another toychest in Tom's room we recently bought and they are wonderfull in keeping the lid balanced (i.e. not slamming the lid down the last moment on closing as most other lidsupports do). Anybody who can help me out pls. contact me off-list. Sonja GCU: Thanks ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Explanation
- Original Message - From: Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Explanation Dan Minette wrote: Let me understand. You are seriously suggesting that viewing physics through a computer science lens is as valid as viewing physics through a physics lens? Somewhat off topic, but what do you think of Structure and Interpretaion of Classical Mechanics Gerald Jay Sussman and Jack Wisdom 2001, MIT Press ISBN 0-262-019455-4 ? This book does not involve using `a computer science lens', but as it says in the Preface Classical mechanics is deceptively simple. Traditional mathematical notation contributes to this problem. Symbols have ambiguous meanings, [in this book] Computational algorithms are used to communicate precisely some of the methods used in the analysis of dynamical phenomena. Expressing the methods of variational mechanics in a computer language forces them to be unambiguous and computationally effective. That sounds like a fairly reasonable thing. To bring the question back to topic, would it be useful to consider thinking about a photon's actions through a computer science lens as a *metaphor*? (In this case, the action is specified by a `method' appropriate to the context, where the actions are either going through two slits at the same time, like a wave upon the water, or else behaving like a stone.) I'm not sure about the answer to this because I'm not working as a teacher, and do not have a firm grip on what would help people make the shift in viewpoint that facilitates understanding QM. The accepted understanding among physicists is that physics models what we observe, period. Thus, we have the shut up and calculate interpretation favored by those who tend towards realism. The reality of QM is that it is a systematic set of rules and equations that provide a good fit to observation. Computational methods allow us to use things like perturbation theory to obtain predictions that would have been impossible to obtain 100 years ago, even if the algorithms were clear. So, computaiton is very worthwhile there. Using Comp. Sci images to interpret QM is legitimate; but by definition this is doing metaphysics, not physics. So, if someone wanted to do this, then it would be interesting to see the systematic interpreation and compare it to MWI, Copenhaugen, etc. As an aside, by definition, Comp. Sci is based on non-so-hidden underlying variables, which can fully be expressed in another system. Physics hidden variable theories have been falsified. Does that help? Dan M. Then, could the metaphor eventually be tranformed into physics? If so, how? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
@#$%^%$!! Piece of Crap Computer . . .
Just got back from class. When I tried to boot up the classroom computer so I could show some photos that were on CD-ROM, after first giving me some sort of message about a missing PCI card of some sort or other (not something I had any need for), then taking forever to finally warm up, it would not recognize that there was a CD-ROM drive at all. So I rebooted: no error message, more normal boot time, but still no CD-ROM drive. So I gave up and put it back in the office with a note on it, and described the pictures I wanted to show them . . . Not Asking For Help, Just Ranting Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: A year ago today...
At 06:23 PM 11/18/03 -0600, Steve Sloan II wrote: Jon Gabriel wrote: Would you be willing to email them -- completely at your convenience -- to some of us (ok, me) if we made requests? I'll be happy to. Just be prepared, because the zip files total a little over 15 MB. They also aren't very organized, with LarryNiven-L posts from the same days mixed in with the Brin-L posts. Want me to go ahead and send them? FWIW, I also have some archives somewhere, though they don't go back quite as far, as I didn't join the list as early as Steve. They are free of posts from other lists, though. Lemme know if anyone cares. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] I Have No Idea Why People From Alabama Seem To Be E-mail Pack Rats Maru -- Ronn in Birmingham, AL :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Six Sigma Flatulence
At 03:19 PM 11/18/03 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really, since the thread is sigmoid in nature. Sigmoid: an S-shaped bend in the colon near the rectum. Would not an even better definition be: An S-shaped bend in the colon near the S-hole. Nerd From Hell (with a joke only Ronn could appreciate!) One-Upsmanship (Don't Ask Up Where) Maru -- Ronn! :) P.S. This post got no chili peppers from Eudora, apparently meaning that it is suitable for the eyes of young children. (Yeah, right.) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Horsepower for Dakar commuters
At 05:47 PM 11/18/03 -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Sonja van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: snip I hope they are making provisions for watering troughs; when I was in New Orleans in 1997, I was very pleased with the condition of the horses and mules I saw in the cabbie lines - the stand had abundant fresh water, and I didn't see any open sores or underweight animals. In a couple of other countries where the horses and donkeys are used similarly the Brook hospital for animals with as its main target those to their owners vital animals has done some very good work by providing just that. A place out of the sun to wait for costumers and a trough to water and when needed even basic free medical service. The key to a better future though is eduction of the owners and that is what they eventually aim at. With succes. I've seen a couple of documentaries on their work and they are doing very nice and sensible things to improve horses and donkeys lives in f.i. egypt. http://www.brooke-hospital.org.uk/brooke/homeframe.html Thanks for the link; they are doing good work. I was appalled to read that a 'brick kiln donkey' has a working life as short as 18 months! No wonder, when 'local wisdom' decrees that an animal get no drinking water for the entire day, in temps of 120oF+. Educating the owners makes an equine's life better and longer, and of course increases the work an owner can expect from the animal. Take Care Of Your Ass And It Will Take Care Of You Maru -- Ronn! :) This one got the maximum of three chili peppers . . . ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Resemblances
At 09:42 PM 11/18/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Jim Sharkey wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: Damon Agretto wrote: Did he kinda resemble Winston Churchill when he was born? :) Childbirth always seems to look like pulling a tiny Winston Chruchill dipped in forty weight oil out of a taco salad to me. Oh, and if you're trying to avoid looking, don't look at the floor. You don't want to look at the floor. Yeah, that's bad too. And the accompanying PLOP as the placenta is expelled is a little disturbing too. The most amazing at the birth of my first child, outside of the blessed event itself, was that the OB/GYN came into the delivery dressed in white pants and a pastel shirt. He only draped a light covering over himself for the delivery. The entire place looked like an abbatoir, yet somehow, he didn't have a drop of blood on him. It was like he had a force field or something. Jim I have more gross stories if you want them Maru Are they higher on the EWG! factor than having the doctor's arm in up to the elbow without benefit of anesthesia? Depends on what orifice it is inserted in . . . No You Don't Have To Elaborate Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
