Re: News

[David Hobby]

Charlie Bell wrote:
...

Second, we get married and make honest peoples of each other.

So we are. I'm going back to Cyprus, we'll try to file a prospective 
marriage visa within a couple of weeks, and hopefully this'll be the 
last enforced separation we have to deal with. 

...

Charlie (and Claire)--

Congratulations.  Good luck with the paperwork;
I hope the Australian immigration is nicer than
the good old American INS.  (My wife is German,
and was properly insulted when they insinuated
that she was just marrying me so that she could
get work in America.  Not to mention having to
show up at 5 a.m. just to get an appointment!)

---David

GCU  I read it here first.

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Re: News

[Robert Seeberger]

Dan Minette wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Bell
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:06 AM
>> To: Killer Bs Discussion; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: News
>>
>> Second, we get married and make honest peoples of each other.
>>
>> So we are.
>
> Congrats Charlie.  I hope you can get through the red tape as 
> quickly
> as possible.
>
Dittos on that my man!

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Re: News

[Charlie Bell]

On Mar 29, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Russell Chapman wrote:


Charlie Bell wrote:


Second, we get married and make honest peoples of each other.

So we are. I'm going back to Cyprus, we'll try to file a  
prospective  marriage visa within a couple of weeks, and hopefully  
this'll be the  last enforced separation we have to deal with.


Congrats!
Hey, with all the Games people going missing around the country  
rather than return to their homelands, you could just stay and  
blend in...


I did consider using a contact to obtain a Sierra Leonean passport  
and claiming asylum ;)


So is the plan to settle in Melbourne (no wonder you've both got  
colds...) ?


:-P It's the first cold I've had in Australia (got sunstroked a  
couple of times on Trikeabout, but that was it).



Let me know if we can help in any way.


I'm not sure how, but if I (or you) think of anything then I'll be  
sure to yell. Thanks.


Charlie
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Re: News

[Doug Pensinger]

Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


So we are. I'm going back to Cyprus, we'll try to file a prospective  
marriage visa within a couple of weeks, and hopefully this'll be the  
last enforced separation we have to deal with. Claire may blog or  post 
too... give her a chance, we've both caught rotten stinky colds  from 
the commonwealth games and it's actually 4am as i type this  'cause I 
can't sleep - damn you pseudoephedrine...


Very cool, Charlie, I'm happy for you and Claire.  Good luck in all your 
endeavors, but lay off the sudafed at night! 8^)


--
Doug
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Re: News

[Russell Chapman]

Charlie Bell wrote:


Second, we get married and make honest peoples of each other.

So we are. I'm going back to Cyprus, we'll try to file a prospective  
marriage visa within a couple of weeks, and hopefully this'll be the  
last enforced separation we have to deal with. 


Congrats!
Hey, with all the Games people going missing around the country rather 
than return to their homelands, you could just stay and blend in...

So is the plan to settle in Melbourne (no wonder you've both got colds...) ?
Let me know if we can help in any way.

Cheers
Russell C.


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Re: News

[Matt Grimaldi]

 
Andrew Crystall wrote: 


> Hm...it was..what...1999 when I stuck my head in here in the middle  
> of a cloning debate, and you promply bit it off. Ah, history :) 
 
Ah, yes.  I remember the headless clone ranchers too.

--Matt

BTW, Congrats Charlie.





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Re: News

[Charlie Bell]

Yeah, I first joined Brin-L in about 1874 I think. (1997? '98? Steve
S or Rich B will know) and was a fairly prolific contributor for a
while. Wandered off for a bit and was busy in other parts of the 'net
and real life 'til recently when I thought "hmmm, 'bout time that
Brin wrote more Uplift" and decided to stick my nose in here.


Hm...it was..what...1999 when I stuck my head in here in the middle
of a cloning debate, and you promply bit it off. Ah, history :)


"Bit it off" indeed... bah! Nibbled it, maybe. ;)


Oh, and good luck on the application. I've had my fun with that  
sort of

paperwork. (Tried to get a job in America. Didn't get very far...)


Ta. We shall see. Fortunately already got most of it.

Charlie
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Re: News

[Andrew Crystall]

On 29 Mar 2006 at 5:29, Charlie Bell wrote:

> 
> On Mar 29, 2006, at 5:06 AM, Dave Land wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for sharing your story with us. I suppose that the rest  
> > of the list knows you much better than I do, so I appreciated  
> > learning a little more about you and your peregrinations, both  
> > personal and geographical.
> 
> Yeah, I first joined Brin-L in about 1874 I think. (1997? '98? Steve  
> S or Rich B will know) and was a fairly prolific contributor for a  
> while. Wandered off for a bit and was busy in other parts of the 'net  
> and real life 'til recently when I thought "hmmm, 'bout time that  
> Brin wrote more Uplift" and decided to stick my nose in here.

Hm...it was..what...1999 when I stuck my head in here in the middle 
of a cloning debate, and you promply bit it off. Ah, history :)

> Brin-L has the dubious distinction of having received quite possibly  
> the worst Drunk Email I've ever sent anywhere too, it was such  
> gibberish even I couldn't work out what I might have been on about  
> when I saw it a few hours later. :)

Worse I saw turned out to be written entirely by a pair of kittens 
who bounced on my friends keyboard for a bit :)

(And yes, there really IS software which is designed to protect 
against that..)

Oh, and good luck on the application. I've had my fun with that sort of
paperwork. (Tried to get a job in America. Didn't get very far...)


AndyC
Dawn Falcon

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Re: News

[Charlie Bell]

On Mar 29, 2006, at 5:06 AM, Dave Land wrote:


Thank you for sharing your story with us. I suppose that the rest  
of the list knows you much better than I do, so I appreciated  
learning a little more about you and your peregrinations, both  
personal and geographical.


Yeah, I first joined Brin-L in about 1874 I think. (1997? '98? Steve  
S or Rich B will know) and was a fairly prolific contributor for a  
while. Wandered off for a bit and was busy in other parts of the 'net  
and real life 'til recently when I thought "hmmm, 'bout time that  
Brin wrote more Uplift" and decided to stick my nose in here.


Brin-L has the dubious distinction of having received quite possibly  
the worst Drunk Email I've ever sent anywhere too, it was such  
gibberish even I couldn't work out what I might have been on about  
when I saw it a few hours later. :)


Charlie
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Re: News

[Dave Land]

Charlie,

Thank you for sharing your story with us. I suppose that the rest of  
the list knows you much better than I do, so I appreciated learning a  
little more about you and your peregrinations, both personal and  
geographical.


I wish you good luck and much love in your marriage.

Dave "20 years this June" Land

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RE: News

[Dan Minette]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Charlie Bell
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:06 AM
> To: Killer Bs Discussion; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: News
> 
> Second, we get married and make honest peoples of each other.
> 
> So we are. 

Congrats Charlie.  I hope you can get through the red tape as quickly as
possible. 

Dan M. 


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Re: News From the /Other/ United States

[Dave Land]

On May 11, 2005, at 8:16 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
The boy scouts were never a strong influence here. OTOH, the current
teen fashion is that girls simulate being each other's lesbian 
girlfriends
[walking with arms around each other, kissing in the mouth, hugging
their breasts], just to tease the boys...
Some people will pay to see stuff like that.
Dave
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Re: News From the /Other/ United States

[Alberto Monteiro]

Warren Ockrassa wrote:
>
> That's because Brazil is comfortable with its sexuality, of course.
>
:-)

It's true that we are more liberal wrt sexuality than other parts of the
world, but this is not yet a sexual paradise as some people would like
to think it is. There is some gay bashing, and gay students spend hell
years in schools.

> It's not a nation overrun with people who had experiences with one
> another at boy scout camps, and who are forever after sure that, deep
> down inside, they're all "faggitz", and must therefore do everything in
> their power to throw off their own desires.
>
:-)

The boy scouts were never a strong influence here. OTOH, the current
teen fashion is that girls simulate being each other's lesbian girlfriends
[walking with arms around each other, kissing in the mouth, hugging
their breasts], just to tease the boys...

Alberto Monteiro

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Re: News From the /Other/ United States

[Alberto Monteiro]

Dave Land wrote:
>
>> You mean "United States of Brazil"??? This is not the country's name.
>> We are the "Republica Federativa do Brasil" or "Federated Republic of
>> Brazil"
>
> Thanks, Alberto. /Was/ that ever its name? Wherever did I get that
> crazy idea, I wonder.
>
I thought that we had that name for some short time in the past,
but a google search helped me.

When the Emperor was deposed on 1889-11-15, the name of the 
military g*vernment was "Governo Provisório da República dos 
Estados Unidos do Brasil" [do I have to translate? :-)]. Then, until
1967, it was "Estados Unidos do Brasil". In 1967, we changed
to "Republica Federativa do Brasil".

> PS: I noticed that the holiday does not specify the number or the
> gender distribution of parties engaged in the celebration. 
>
It can't - it would be politically incorrect, and now the g*vernment is
enforcing political correctedness in every document. For example,
"homosexualism" is a banned word, because it was defined by some
UNO health sub-organization as a disease; the correct word is
"homosexuality".

Alberto Monteiro

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Re: News From the /Other/ United States

[Warren Ockrassa]

On May 10, 2005, at 4:34 PM, Dave Land wrote:
PS: I noticed that the holiday does not specify the number or the
gender distribution of parties engaged in the celebration.
That's because Brazil is comfortable with its sexuality, of course. 
It's not a nation overrun with people who had experiences with one 
another at boy scout camps, and who are forever after sure that, deep 
down inside, they're all "faggitz", and must therefore do everything in 
their power to throw off their own desires.

And, of course, the more the merrier.
;)
--
Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books
http://books.nightwares.com/
Current work in progress "The Seven-Year Mirror"
http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf
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Re: News From the /Other/ United States

[Dave Land]

On May 10, 2005, at 8:19 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Dave Land wrote:
Here's a new holiday that probably wouldn't fly in the country that
calls itself America, from a country that calls itself the United
States:
Brazilian Town Declares "Orgasm Day"
???
You mean "United States of Brazil"??? This is not the country's name.
We are the "Republica Federativa do Brasil" or "Federated Republic of 
Brazil"
Thanks, Alberto. /Was/ that ever its name? Wherever did I get that
crazy idea, I wonder.
PS: I noticed that the holiday does not specify the number or the
gender distribution of parties engaged in the celebration. Perhaps what
Brazil needs is a "Defense of Orgasm Act" that defines an orgasm as
being an act involving exactly two persons with exactly three X
chromosomes between them. Of course, under the Brazilians with
Disabilities Act, a gay male couple, one of whom has Klinefelter's
syndrome, or a lesbian couple, one of whom has Turner's syndrome would
be perfectly welcome to enjoy the benefits of this new holiday.
Dave "Font of Misinformation" Land
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Re: News From the /Other/ United States

[Medievalbk]

 
In a message dated 5/10/2005 3:12:40 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>  Brazilian Town Declares "Orgasm Day"



How did they declare it?
 
"Anyone who wants an 'Orgasm Day,' raise your hand."
 
"And lower it."
 
"And raise it."
 
"And lower it."
 
"And raise it."
 
"And"
 
Old Not the Nine O'clock News routine. (Slightly changed.)
 
Vilyehm
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Re: News From the /Other/ United States

[Alberto Monteiro]

Dave Land wrote:
>
> Here's a new holiday that probably wouldn't fly in the country that
> calls itself America, from a country that calls itself the United
> States:
>
> Brazilian Town Declares "Orgasm Day"
>
???

You mean "United States of Brazil"??? This is not the country's name.
We are the "Republica Federativa do Brasil" or "Federated Republic of Brazil"

Alberto Monteiro

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Re: News From the /Other/ United States

[Ronn!Blankenship]

At 09:09 PM Monday 5/9/2005, Dave Land wrote:
Folks,
Here's a new holiday that probably wouldn't fly in the country that
calls itself America, from a country that calls itself the United
States:
Brazilian Town Declares "Orgasm Day"
http://wfmynews2.com/watercooler/watercooler_article.aspx?storyid=40738

Related story:
Espertantina Stores Report Unusual Run On Batteries
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Re: News From the /Other/ United States

[Robert Seeberger]

Dave Land wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Here's a new holiday that probably wouldn't fly in the country that
> calls itself America, from a country that calls itself the United
> States:
>
> Brazilian Town Declares "Orgasm Day"
>
> http://wfmynews2.com/watercooler/watercooler_article.aspx?storyid=40738
>
What?
It only comes once a year?

Pftt!


xponent
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Re: news of the dumb

[Kevin Tarr]

At 02:39 PM 7/1/2003 -0500, you wrote:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/
You consider this a source? Hahahahahaha. Your name fits now.

Kevin T. - VRWC

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Re: News from the Booby Hatch

[Steve Sloan II]

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

> [The first two articles are spoofs -- I hope! --DBM]

> Senator wants copyright "kill switches" in PCs
> Thursday, June 19, 2003; 10:12 AM
> WASHINGTON - The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee
> said Thursday that future personal computers should be
> required to sport "kill switches" that could be remotely
> activated in cases of peer-to-peer piracy.
> Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-UT, said he was drafting legislation to
> require devices in PCs permitting the destruction of hardware
> used for widescale copyright infringement by sending a secret
> command to the remote computer. A copyright holder would be
> required to offer two warnings before the "kill switch" was
> activated and the computer destroyed or permanently disabled,
> Hatch said.
They reported it on TechTV yesterday, so unfortunately, he
really did say that stuff. There's also this article:
Senator Endorses Tough Action Against Music Piracy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6559-2003Jun17.html
> Hatch is an amateur songwriter who has recorded religious
> songs including, according to HatchMusic.com, works titled
> Our Gracious Lord, Climb Inside His Loving Arms, and How
> His Glory Shines.
Property destruction? Nice little show of Christian values
there...
> One technology lobbyist, who spoke on condition of
> anonymity, offered a tongue-in-cheek suggestion. "How
> about if we implant 'kill switches' in politicians so
> we can blow them up when they say anything this stupid?"
Damn straight! Maybe we can also set it to trigger if the
politician kisses too much lobbyist ass at the expense of
his own constituents.
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Re: News Was:Re: Marriage Anneversaries

[Jean-Louis Couturier]

Awful indecent of me to not mention this previously,
But Susan and i will be getting married
Feb. 15.

Just 2 weeks left.



xponent
Banns Maru
rob


Well congrats to you Mr. Seeberger!

Jean-Louis
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Re: News (Was: Re: Marriage Anniversaries)

[Deborah Harrell]

Congrats to those celebrating their unions, and those
soon-to-be taking the plunge!  Best wishes, good luck,
and crossed fingers (but not stars) to all.  :)

Bronze And Gold Maru

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Re: News Was:Re: Marriage Anneversaries

[Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten]

"J. van Baardwijk" wrote:

> At 08:38 31-01-2003 +0100, I wrote:
>
> >For Sonja and me, it'll be five years next month (Feb. 11).
>
> Then, at 12:01 31-01-2003 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk wrote:
>
> >As for staying together... I dunno.
>
> Er, dearly beloved significant other, is there something you would like to
> tell me?   :-)
>

Perhaps I could tell you that quoting out of context can lead to dire
distress... ;o)

Sonja

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Re: News Was:Re: Marriage Anneversaries

[J. van Baardwijk]

At 08:38 31-01-2003 +0100, I wrote:


For Sonja and me, it'll be five years next month (Feb. 11).



Then, at 12:01 31-01-2003 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk wrote:


As for staying together... I dunno.


Er, dearly beloved significant other, is there something you would like to 
tell me?   :-)


Jeroen "Till the judge do us part" van Baardwijk


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Re: News Was:Re: Marriage Anneversaries

[Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten]

Robert Seeberger wrote:

> Awful indecent of me to not mention this previously,
> But Susan and i will be getting married
> Feb. 15.
>
> Just 2 weeks left.
> 
>

Congrats. Have a great time. If things go as planned you only have the
opportunity to do it once, so it better be a good one. 
Will you grant us the pleasure of at least one photo of bride and groom?
I'm sure Steve would love to put it up on his website and we are all a
bit of a gawker.

As for staying together... I dunno. Haven't really thought about it much
and here we are ten years down the road and almost five into marriage
already. Time flies when you are having fun. Maybe the best way to stay
to gether is if you've thought things through before you hit the big
yes and then stick with it.

Sonja

GCU: Februari, winterbrides, romance

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Re: News Was:Re: Marriage Anneversaries

[Doug Pensinger]

Robert Seeberger wrote:


Awful indecent of me to not mention this previously,
But Susan and i will be getting married
Feb. 15.


Great news, Rob.  The very best to you both!

Doug


GCU Harmonious Relationship



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Re: news: Brazil Sets an Example in Computerizing Its NationalElections

[Alberto Monteiro]

Ronn Blankenship wrote:
>
>> So, those 10.7% are people that _chose_ to invalidate
>> the vote.
>
>Is that anything like giving them a way to vote for "None of the 
>Above"?  
>
Yes - in fact, two ways of voting for "None of the Above"
[something like options "I don't care" and "The hell with all
of them"]

>(I.e., "I want to do my civic duty and vote, but I don't want any 
>of these idiots and/or crooks.")  
>
Voting is obrigatory, with mild penalties for those that skip the
last election [you have to justify the absence, or you pay a fine,
or you will not be able to get some jobs]

>If so, what happens if "None of the 
>Above" happens to get the largest number of the votes cast?
>
I *think* that nothing happens.

Alberto Monteiro


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Re: news: Iraq Sets an Example in Computerizing Its National Elections

[Ronn Blankenship]

At 07:29 AM 11/1/02, Alberto Monteiro wrote:

Russell Chapman wrote:

> (so what does FIM mean?)
>
"The End" :-)



I've most often seen it written as "Fin".  Is "Fim" a Portuguese spelling?


--Ronn! :)

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I never dreamed that I would see the last.
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Re: news: Brazil Sets an Example in Computerizing Its National Elections

[Ronn Blankenship]

At 01:38 PM 10/30/02, Alberto Monteiro wrote:

Erik Reuter asked:
>
>> Officials were also heartened by statistics indicating
>> that the number of blank and spoiled ballots fell by
>> nearly half, from 18.7 percent in the 1998 general
>> election to 10.7 percent in the first round of
>> voting.
>
> How can you have a "blank" or "spoiled" ballot on the
> computer? Doesn't it check to make sure that you recorded
> at least one vote, and that you
> didn't mess anything up? What accounted for the 10.7 percent?
>
The voting machine has three buttons below the
numerical keyboard: [Blank] [Correct] [Confirm]

So, you have the explicit option to vote [Blank], and then
[Confirm] it.

Or you can enter an invalid number (say, 00 for
President). It will tell you that you are voting
"spoiled" ("null"), but you can [Confirm] it anyway.

So, those 10.7% are people that _chose_ to invalidate
the vote.




Is that anything like giving them a way to vote for "None of the 
Above"?  (I.e., "I want to do my civic duty and vote, but I don't want any 
of these idiots and/or crooks.")  If so, what happens if "None of the 
Above" happens to get the largest number of the votes cast?

Or does it mean that their vote doesn't count, just as if they stayed home?



--Ronn! :)

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I never dreamed that I would see the last.
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Re: news: Iraq Sets an Example in Computerizing Its NationalElections

[Alberto Monteiro]

Russell Chapman wrote: 
> 
> Tried it again in Netscape (v6.2) with same result - nothing 
> in the window of the voting device, and no response to 
> button presses on the keypad of the device. Cleared cache 
> etc, tried from home and work etc all to no avail. Works 
> fine for me in Konqueror and IE as well, but  
> failed in Mozilla on both Linux and Windows. 
>  
> Ahh - the joys of the ongoing browser wars... 
> 
I can only blame Geocities for that. Maybe they added some 
spamstuff that made it not work :-/ 
  
> (so what does FIM mean?) 
>  
"The End" :-) 
 
This is what happens with a non-hacket voting device too 
 
Alberto Monteiro 
 
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Re: news: Iraq Sets an Example in Computerizing Its NationalElections

[Russell Chapman]

Alberto Monteiro wrote:


Uh? This is weird. I used the Netscape Javascript Manual, and tested
it in IE and Konqueror [Linux] - it worked on both browsers.


Tried it again in Netscape (v6.2) with same result - nothing in the 
window of the voting device, and no response to button presses on the 
keypad of the device. Cleared cache etc, tried from home and work etc 
all to no avail. Works fine for me in Konqueror and IE as well, but 
failed in Mozilla on both Linux and Windows.

Ahh - the joys of the ongoing browser wars...

Cheers
Russell C.
(so what does FIM mean?)


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Re: news: Iraq Sets an Example in Computerizing Its NationalElections

[Alberto Monteiro]

Russell Chapman wrote:
>
>I thought that at first, because my Netscape mail reader opened the site 
>in a Netscape browser window, and left me scratching my head a bit - why 
>would Alberto put his considerable skill and talent to such a purpose?
>
>Then I tried again using a M$ Internet Explorer window... Ha !   Well 
>done to Mr Monteiro. An excellent piece of work (though I am still 
>trying to work out what FIM means).
>Try the site again (and be patient, some of it take a bit to load) in IE...
>
Uh? This is weird. I used the Netscape Javascript Manual, and tested
it in IE and Konqueror [Linux] - it worked on both browsers.

Alberto Monteiro


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Re: news: Iraq Sets an Example in Computerizing Its NationalElections

[Russell Chapman]

Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:


Is it just me or does the text of this article seem awfully familiar. Lots of it were identical to the text for the other
article of Brazil setting an example in computerized elections.


I thought that at first, because my Netscape mail reader opened the site 
in a Netscape browser window, and left me scratching my head a bit - why 
would Alberto put his considerable skill and talent to such a purpose?

Then I tried again using a M$ Internet Explorer window... Ha !   Well 
done to Mr Monteiro. An excellent piece of work (though I am still 
trying to work out what FIM means).
Try the site again (and be patient, some of it take a bit to load) in IE...

Cheers
Russell C.


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Re: news: Iraq Sets an Example in Computerizing Its NationalElections

[Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten]

Alberto Monteiro wrote:

> 

Is it just me or does the text of this article seem awfully familiar. Lots of it were 
identical to the text for the other
article of Brazil setting an example in computerized elections.

Sonja
GCU  Copy/Paste

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RE: news: Iraq Sets an Example in Computerizing Its National Elections

[Horn, John]

> From: Alberto Monteiro [mailto:albmont@;centroin.com.br]
> 
> See below an example of how to vote
> http://www.geocities.com/albmont/urna_eletronica_iraque.htm

Shouldn't the instructions be in Arabic (Persian?)?  ;-)

 - jmh
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Re: news: Brazil Sets an Example in Computerizing Its NationalElections

[Russell Chapman]

Alberto Monteiro wrote:


Brazilian officials said the new system also makes tallying the vote 
easier and more reliable once the polls have closed. Instead of 
relying on election judges who are vulnerable to error or political 
pressures, the results are transmitted on a secure line to the state 
capital and then to a national center in Brasília. 

So now instead of corrupting/buying/blackmailing a bunch of returning 
officers around the country, you only need to influence one or two 
system administrators at head office - now that's efficient!
:-)

Cheers
Russell C.


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Re: news: Brazil Sets an Example in Computerizing Its NationalElections

[Alberto Monteiro]

Erik Reuter asked:  
>  
>> Officials were also heartened by statistics indicating  
>> that the number of blank and spoiled ballots fell by  
>> nearly half, from 18.7 percent in the 1998 general  
>> election to 10.7 percent in the first round of  
>> voting.  
>   
> How can you have a "blank" or "spoiled" ballot on the  
> computer? Doesn't it check to make sure that you recorded  
> at least one vote, and that you  
> didn't mess anything up? What accounted for the 10.7 percent?  
>   
The voting machine has three buttons below the  
numerical keyboard: [Blank] [Correct] [Confirm]  
  
So, you have the explicit option to vote [Blank], and then  
[Confirm] it.  
  
Or you can enter an invalid number (say, 00 for  
President). It will tell you that you are voting  
"spoiled" ("null"), but you can [Confirm] it anyway.  
  
So, those 10.7% are people that _chose_ to invalidate  
the vote.  
  
There's a Java Applet to simulate the vote at... 
http://www.riberguia.com.br/votebrasil/urna.asp 
... you must click in the "Clique aqui" text. 
 
Alberto Monteiro 
 
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Re: news: Brazil Sets an Example in Computerizing Its NationalElections

[Erik Reuter]

On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:01:49PM -0300, Alberto Monteiro wrote:

> Officials were also heartened by statistics indicating that the number
> of blank and spoiled ballots fell by nearly half, from 18.7 percent
> in the 1998 general election to 10.7 percent in the first round of
> voting.

How can you have a "blank" or "spoiled" ballot on the computer? Doesn't
it check to make sure that you recorded at least one vote, and that you
didn't mess anything up? What accounted for the 10.7 percent?


-- 
"Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   http://www.erikreuter.net/
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