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Jim said: Do you think Banks actually *likes* the Culture? That is, the couple of his Culture books I've read have generally shown the nasty underside of his outwardly Utopian society. I think that in his early books, Banks was unusually honest about the underpinnings of his utopia, both in terms of its occasional disregard for individuals in favour of more statistical improvements and of its economy being based essentially on magical free energy. Unfortunately, some of the later ones seem to have somewhat diluted that honesty or at least shifted the focus somewhat. I'm pretty sure he'd choose the Culture over almost any other conceivable society though. Rich GSV Statistical Improvements ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Charlie said: But yes, that's the idea of the books, I think. Let's face it, the vast vast majority of the Culture's citizens (both flesh and machine) live happy hedonistic lives - it's the edges where the Culture meets other civs and the underbelly where people conduct nefarious schemes where the interesting stories are going to happen. One puzzling thing is that Banks advances arguments, most notably in A Few Notes on the Culture, that something like the Culture is a very strong attractor for space-based civilisations in the limit of increasing technology. Given this, why are there other societies with generally equivalent technology that differ markedly from the Culture in terms of social organisation? The Homomdans, for example, have ships and I'm pretty sure also Minds, and yet are an old-fashioned Empire so far as I recall. Indeed, except for Culture offshoots like the Zetetic Elench there's no mention of any other civilisations that even approximate to the Culture's social model. Could it be that all such cultures are assimilated into the Culture itself? Rich GCU Hedonism Gradient ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 5/10/06, Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charlie said: But yes, that's the idea of the books, I think. Let's face it, the vast vast majority of the Culture's citizens (both flesh and machine) live happy hedonistic lives - it's the edges where the Culture meets other civs and the underbelly where people conduct nefarious schemes where the interesting stories are going to happen. One puzzling thing is that Banks advances arguments, most notably in A Few Notes on the Culture, that something like the Culture is a very strong attractor for space-based civilisations in the limit of increasing technology. Given this, why are there other societies with generally equivalent technology that differ markedly from the Culture in terms of social organisation? The Homomdans, for example, have ships and I'm pretty sure also Minds, and yet are an old-fashioned Empire so far as I recall. Indeed, except for Culture offshoots like the Zetetic Elench there's no mention of any other civilisations that even approximate to the Culture's social model. Could it be that all such cultures are assimilated into the Culture itself? Rich GCU Hedonism Gradient If I remember correctly, the Culture is a fuzzy political entity at best. Culture like societies are Culture, unless they decide not to be and then they have to keep saying that yes, they're exactly like Culture, but they're not and the Culture itself doesn't care one way or the other. Jean-Louis ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jim Sharkey wrote: _Consider Phlebas_ and _A Player of Games_ Cool. The next two (_Use Of Weapons_ and _Excession_) are great too. I've heard good and bad about UoW, that it's an aggravating book in some ways. Excession I don't know much about at all. Hmm, _UoW_ is definitely worth a read. Even if you can see certain things before Banksie wants you to see them. It is also a rather dark book. _Excession_ ,otoh, was a book which made me laugh out loud many, many times. I think it just might be my favourite Culture novel. Ritu ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Ritu wrote: Hmm, _UoW_ is definitely worth a read. Even if you can see certain things before Banksie wants you to see them. It is also a rather dark book. _Excession_ ,otoh, was a book which made me laugh out loud many, many times. I think it just might be my favourite Culture novel. I guess I'll have to add them to the pile then, which creates a Julia- like problem for me, since the pile is expanding quickly. I recently changed jobs and went from commuting by train to commuting by car. It's drastically cutting into my reading time here! I was doing about a book a week, in addition to my SI and Time and comics before the change. Now? Maybe thirty minutes at lunch, tops. Stupid work. :) Jim Library card Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 08/05/2006, at 7:49 AM, Dave Land wrote: On May 7, 2006, at 8:06 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: snip a bit of self-loathing over liking the Xbox (Friends being parlance meaning OK to play with -- real human friendships are based in a lot more than game theory. Right?) Based on some of the threads around here lately, I think there are some who would not accept the existence of friendship without a double-blind test. LOL! No, just some evidence. Like, a person who acts fairly consistently towards one and doesn't do things that upset one too often and actually makes an effort to make one feel wanted back. That sort of thing. Online friendships work the same as in real life ones, in that we constantly re-evaluate them. Looking for evidence and requiring proof (or indeed, a double-blind test) aren't the same things at all. And being cynical about religion does not imply cynicism about people generally. Given that I'm getting married to someone I actually met on this very list... ;o) Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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OK, so I'm mamaEffword. You? On May 7, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: Given that I'm getting married to someone I actually met on this very list... ;o) -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Storms_on_a_Flat_Placid_Sea.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On May 7, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: Given that I'm getting married to someone I actually met on this very list... ;o) On 08/05/2006, at 9:28 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: OK, so I'm mamaEffword. You? No, not an XBox Live user - can't justify the expense right now (and my PS2 still has legs). Brin List, I met my other half here on Brin List. I can see where I might have been less ambiguous in my previous post. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Charlie Bell wrote: I met my other half here on Brin List. At the risk of sounding like an old washerwoman, about whom are we speaking here? Do we need to send presents? :-) Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 08/05/2006, at 3:09 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: I met my other half here on Brin List. At the risk of sounding like an old washerwoman, about whom are we speaking here? Claire. She was briefly on Brin-L in late 2000, during the Culture List invasion. I tagged along there after, and have been a regular on Culture List ever since (um, check my current email address... ;) ). I went to stay with Claire in Melbourne in 2001, she came to Cyprus in 2002, I stayed with her again for the start of Trikeabout in 2005, and now we're tying the knot (or zipping the zip-tie, in the modern world I guess) on 1st Sept... paperwork permitting... Do we need to send presents? :-) If you like! Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Charlie Bell wrote: Claire. She was briefly on Brin-L in late 2000, during the Culture List invasion. Ahh. I joined sometime around that time as well, so I don't have a great recollection of who was around then. I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like I'm still trying. :) I tagged along there after, and have been a regular on Culture List ever since (um, check my current email address... ;) ). Do you think Banks actually *likes* the Culture? That is, the couple of his Culture books I've read have generally shown the nasty underside of his outwardly Utopian society. I went to stay with Claire in Melbourne in 2001, she came to Cyprus in 2002, I stayed with her again for the start of Trikeabout in 2005, and now we're tying the knot (or zipping the zip-tie, in the modern world I guess) on 1st Sept... paperwork permitting... Impressive, making a long term, long distance relationship work! Must have taken a great deal of effort. Congratulations! Do we need to send presents? :-) If you like! *Checks wallet, moths fly out* Would you settle for well-wishes? :) Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 08/05/2006, at 3:40 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Claire. She was briefly on Brin-L in late 2000, during the Culture List invasion. Ahh. I joined sometime around that time as well, so I don't have a great recollection of who was around then. I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like I'm still trying. :) Red Queen, eh? :) I tagged along there after, and have been a regular on Culture List ever since (um, check my current email address... ;) ). Do you think Banks actually *likes* the Culture? That is, the couple of his Culture books I've read have generally shown the nasty underside of his outwardly Utopian society. Which have you read? But yes, that's the idea of the books, I think. Let's face it, the vast vast majority of the Culture's citizens (both flesh and machine) live happy hedonistic lives - it's the edges where the Culture meets other civs and the underbelly where people conduct nefarious schemes where the interesting stories are going to happen. In fact, only Look to Windward really takes place within the Culture as such, the others are all outside or so far above the conception of Joe Culture that they might as well be. I went to stay with Claire in Melbourne in 2001, she came to Cyprus in 2002, I stayed with her again for the start of Trikeabout in 2005, and now we're tying the knot (or zipping the zip-tie, in the modern world I guess) on 1st Sept... paperwork permitting... Impressive, making a long term, long distance relationship work! Must have taken a great deal of effort. Congratulations! Never easy. And we did spend a chunk in the middle there technically single. But cheers. :) Do we need to send presents? :-) If you like! *Checks wallet, moths fly out* Would you settle for well-wishes? :) Of course. :D Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Charlie Bell wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like I'm still trying. :) Red Queen, eh? :) I could just laugh along and pretend I got that; however, I have no idea to what that reference joke actually refers. Do you think Banks actually *likes* the Culture? That is, the couple of his Culture books I've read have generally shown the nasty underside of his outwardly Utopian society. Which have you read? _Consider Phlebas_ and _A Player of Games_ But yes, that's the idea of the books, I think. Let's face it, the vast majority of the Culture's citizens (both flesh and machine) live happy hedonistic lives - it's the edges where the Culture meets other civs and the underbelly where people conduct nefarious schemes I've generally thought of it as Western society writ large, wherein the government, such as the Culture has, does nasty things that their citizens would never actually imagine them doing. I mean, most Americans view our country as the guys with the white hats, and I'd like to think they're disturbed by some of the ugly things coming to light right now. Though maybe I'm giving them too much credit... Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 08/05/2006, at 5:32 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like I'm still trying. :) Red Queen, eh? :) I could just laugh along and pretend I got that; however, I have no idea to what that reference joke actually refers. The Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland, who ran as fast as she could just to stay in the same place. :) Do you think Banks actually *likes* the Culture? That is, the couple of his Culture books I've read have generally shown the nasty underside of his outwardly Utopian society. Which have you read? _Consider Phlebas_ and _A Player of Games_ Cool. The next two (_Use Of Weapons_ and _Excession_) are great too. But yes, that's the idea of the books, I think. Let's face it, the vast majority of the Culture's citizens (both flesh and machine) live happy hedonistic lives - it's the edges where the Culture meets other civs and the underbelly where people conduct nefarious schemes I've generally thought of it as Western society writ large, wherein the government, such as the Culture has, does nasty things that their citizens would never actually imagine them doing. Mebbe. It's worth reading A Few Notes On The Culture... I ought to put it up on culturelist.org really. It's probably in the Culture Data Repository though. (http://cdr.culturelist.org) I mean, most Americans view our country as the guys with the white hats, and I'd like to think they're disturbed by some of the ugly things coming to light right now. Though maybe I'm giving them too much credit... White hats? What, like the Klan you mean? ;) I agree with you - more and more Americans seem to be slowly coming to the conclusion that something is rotten in the states... (apologies to Will Shakespeare there). http://www.kabc.com/mcintyre/listingsEntry.asp? ID=432586PT=McIntyre%2Bin%2Bthe%2BMorning for example. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On May 7, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Dave Land wrote: Based on some of the threads around here lately, I think there are some who would not accept the existence of friendship without a double-blind test. Or, one could say that friendship requires some faith in the other person. :-) Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Charlie Bell wrote: On 08/05/2006, at 5:32 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like I'm still trying. :) Red Queen, eh? :) I could just laugh along and pretend I got that; however, I have no idea to what that reference joke actually refers. The Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland, who ran as fast as she could just to stay in the same place. :) Actually, Through the Looking Glass. http://www.cs.indiana.edu/metastuff/looking/ch2.html.gz is the chapter in question. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 08/05/2006, at 6:28 PM, Dan Minette wrote: On May 7, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Dave Land wrote: Based on some of the threads around here lately, I think there are some who would not accept the existence of friendship without a double-blind test. Or, one could say that friendship requires some faith in the other person. One could. But honestly, do you trust someone without *any* prior knowledge of how they're likely to act? Of course not. Trust is earned, on the most part, and faith in someone is a synonym for trust, not for unevidenced belief. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Charlie Bell wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: I could just laugh along and pretend I got that; however, I have no idea to what that reference joke actually refers. The Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland, who ran as fast as she could just to stay in the same place. :) My first thought was that it was an Alice reference, but I've never read the actual books and didn't know that was part of her character. _Consider Phlebas_ and _A Player of Games_ Cool. The next two (_Use Of Weapons_ and _Excession_) are great too. I've heard good and bad about UoW, that it's an aggravating book in some ways. Excession I don't know much about at all. I've generally thought of it as Western society writ large, wherein the government, such as the Culture has, does nasty things that their citizens would never actually imagine them doing. Mebbe. It's worth reading A Few Notes On The Culture... I ought to put it up on culturelist.org really. It's probably in the Culture Data Repository though. (http://cdr.culturelist.org) I'll try to check it out some time. I mean, most Americans view our country as the guys with the white hats, and I'd like to think they're disturbed by some of the ugly things coming to light right now. I agree with you - more and more Americans seem to be slowly coming to the conclusion that something is rotten in the states... I hope so. But there's always the yahoo factor here. That is to say, there's enough yahoos that refuse to even consider the possibility that the US is, on occasion, the bad guy, that real change may be a while coming. I still think we're *generally* the good guys, but the folks running the show right now are working hard to make us look like Snidely Whiplash, using 9/11 as an excuse for all manner of things that sound, to me at least, downright un-American. Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 08/05/2006, at 6:28 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: On 08/05/2006, at 5:32 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like I'm still trying. :) Red Queen, eh? :) I could just laugh along and pretend I got that; however, I have no idea to what that reference joke actually refers. The Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland, who ran as fast as she could just to stay in the same place. :) Actually, Through the Looking Glass. http://www.cs.indiana.edu/metastuff/looking/ch2.html.gz is the chapter in question. Ta. I did know that, I was just being lazy by referring to the stories as a whole as Alice in Wonderland when they're not actually called that... :) Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 08/05/2006, at 6:41 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: I agree with you - more and more Americans seem to be slowly coming to the conclusion that something is rotten in the states... I hope so. But there's always the yahoo factor here. That is to say, there's enough yahoos that refuse to even consider the possibility that the US is, on occasion, the bad guy, that real change may be a while coming. I still think we're *generally* the good guys, I think it's impossible to classify countries in that way. The more I learn about international relations, the less I feel that they're anything to do with good and bad, and the more I feel that they're inextricably linked to pure self-interest on the parts of the politicians. *sigh* But yes, I think that many Americans aspire to the right thing, it's just a shame that so many have little or no clue about the world beyond their borders (county borders sometimes!), and that they keep throwing the dross to the top of the pile. but the folks running the show right now are working hard to make us look like Snidely Whiplash, using 9/11 as an excuse for all manner of things that sound, to me at least, downright un-American. Question: does the situation with Bush's bizarre lack of vetos and excessive use of signing statements make any of the Merkins onlist nervous? Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Charlie Bell wrote: On 08/05/2006, at 6:28 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: On 08/05/2006, at 5:32 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like I'm still trying. :) Red Queen, eh? :) I could just laugh along and pretend I got that; however, I have no idea to what that reference joke actually refers. The Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland, who ran as fast as she could just to stay in the same place. :) Actually, Through the Looking Glass. http://www.cs.indiana.edu/metastuff/looking/ch2.html.gz is the chapter in question. Ta. I did know that, I was just being lazy by referring to the stories as a whole as Alice in Wonderland when they're not actually called that... :) Oh, that's fine, I just felt like being pedantic and mildly useful all at once. I appreciate your giving me the opportunity to be so. :D Julia who once could recite a German translation of the first verse of Jabberwocky and did so ad nauseum ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 7:21 AM Subject: Re: Xbox 360 On 08/05/2006, at 3:09 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: I met my other half here on Brin List. At the risk of sounding like an old washerwoman, about whom are we speaking here? Claire. She was briefly on Brin-L in late 2000, during the Culture List invasion. I tagged along there after, and have been a regular on Culture List ever since (um, check my current email address... ;) ). I went to stay with Claire in Melbourne in 2001, she came to Cyprus in 2002, I stayed with her again for the start of Trikeabout in 2005, and now we're tying the knot (or zipping the zip-tie, in the modern world I guess) on 1st Sept... paperwork permitting... Do we need to send presents? :-) If you like! G Actually I'd testify anyday that Claire is is pretty cool! And a hell of a lot of fun to argue with. The gal aint no pushover! Well..that's what I always liked about her.G It is the worlds great misfortune that she tends to be quiet online these days. xponent *The* Claire Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Xbox 360 FWIW my gamertag is mamaEffword. Who else out there has a 360, and do you want to come and play? Now you know whom to address. ;) LOL..I bought my son a 360 for his birthday in March and it sits on the floor in his room unused. I haven't played it myself, but I might get a roundtuit one of these days. xponent 360 Voyeur Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 09/05/2006, at 12:59 AM, Xponent wrote: G Actually I'd testify anyday that Claire is is pretty cool! And a hell of a lot of fun to argue with. The gal aint no pushover! Well..that's what I always liked about her.G All true. :) It is the worlds great misfortune that she tends to be quiet online these days. Yes. It's just stupidly busy. She is blogging a bit. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 09/05/2006, at 1:03 AM, Xponent wrote: - Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Xbox 360 FWIW my gamertag is mamaEffword. Who else out there has a 360, and do you want to come and play? Now you know whom to address. ;) LOL..I bought my son a 360 for his birthday in March and it sits on the floor in his room unused. That's just tragic *subliminal message*post it to charlie*/subliminal message* Awful. Terrible. Youth of today etc... Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: Re: Xbox 360 On 09/05/2006, at 1:03 AM, Xponent wrote: - Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Xbox 360 FWIW my gamertag is mamaEffword. Who else out there has a 360, and do you want to come and play? Now you know whom to address. ;) LOL..I bought my son a 360 for his birthday in March and it sits on the floor in his room unused. That's just tragic *subliminal message*post it to charlie*/subliminal message* Awful. Terrible. Youth of today etc... Oh it gets worse! My son may be the best son in the world but he has recently started on about wanting a Playstation 3. I suppose so that it can keep the 360 company. xponent What Consoles Do When You Are Away Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On May 8, 2006, at 3:03 PM, Xponent wrote: FWIW my gamertag is mamaEffword. Who else out there has a 360, and do you want to come and play? Now you know whom to address. ;) LOL..I bought my son a 360 for his birthday in March and it sits on the floor in his room unused. What? You mean he … gasp … HAS A LIFE? Oh my my my, this will not do, not at all. I haven't played it myself, but I might get a roundtuit one of these days. Check out Oblivion. Extremely addictive, but alas, no online play side to it at all. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Storms_on_a_Flat_Placid_Sea.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Xponent wrote: - Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Xbox 360 FWIW my gamertag is mamaEffword. Who else out there has a 360, and do you want to come and play? Now you know whom to address. ;) LOL..I bought my son a 360 for his birthday in March and it sits on the floor in his room unused. I haven't played it myself, but I might get a roundtuit one of these days. OK, now I need to make a roundtuit and send it to Rob. :D Julia might be able to get someone to cut me a good circle on Wednesday, hm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Julia Thompson Oh, that's fine, I just felt like being pedantic and mildly useful all at once. I appreciate your giving me the opportunity to be so. :D Julia who once could recite a German translation of the first verse of Jabberwocky and did so ad nauseum Umm, ok, now you have to. Once more with feeing Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Actually in BA I chose a Spitfire based on the recommendations of a Cockney eight-year-old or so who was wrong, ultimately, but quite authoritative. I switched eventually to a Corsair and spent most of the game time in blackout as I over-gee'd the stick. Sigh. Spitfire too little, Corsair too much. Something tweenish next time. FW-190A-8 is the magic answer. Small, fairly fast, maneuverable, and armed with FOUR 20mm cannons and a pair of 13mm machine guns...*drool* Note that I am utterly unfamiliar with the game. Mainly speaking from RW knowledge... Of course, I'd want to fly a Regia Aeronautica bf.109G just because I'm a stickler for the underdog... Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: EE's BRDM-1 Recce Vehicle -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.4/332 - Release Date: 5/4/2006 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On May 7, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Damon Agretto wrote: Actually in BA I chose a Spitfire based on the recommendations of a Cockney eight-year-old or so who was wrong, ultimately, but quite authoritative. I switched eventually to a Corsair and spent most of the game time in blackout as I over-gee'd the stick. Sigh. Spitfire too little, Corsair too much. Something tweenish next time. FW-190A-8 is the magic answer. Small, fairly fast, maneuverable, and armed with FOUR 20mm cannons and a pair of 13mm machine guns...*drool* Note that I am utterly unfamiliar with the game. Mainly speaking from RW knowledge... Of course, I'd want to fly a Regia Aeronautica bf.109G just because I'm a stickler for the underdog... I *think* the Focke-Wulf 190 is an option but I don't know if it can get that specific. An interesting idea, though. One of the things the US learned in the Cold War era was that the Soviet MiGs flew like bricks, but had the best guns ANYWHERE. Sometimes maneuverability isn't as important as flying a big fat cannon. I know the FW was fast and light, not as heavy as the ME-109 -- the idea of using one never hit me. Hmm. Armor vs. … hmm. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Storms_on_a_Flat_Placid_Sea.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On May 7, 2006, at 8:06 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: snip a bit of self-loathing over liking the Xbox (Friends being parlance meaning OK to play with -- real human friendships are based in a lot more than game theory. Right?) Based on some of the threads around here lately, I think there are some who would not accept the existence of friendship without a double-blind test. Dave Land Blinded By Science Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Yeah, well, fuck 'em. On May 7, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Dave Land wrote: Based on some of the threads around here lately, I think there are some who would not accept the existence of friendship without a double-blind test. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Storms_on_a_Flat_Placid_Sea.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Xbox 360
Not without scientific proof that they are, in fact, my friends. On May 7, 2006, at 10:28 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: Yeah, well, fuck 'em. On May 7, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Dave Land wrote: Based on some of the threads around here lately, I think there are some who would not accept the existence of friendship without a double-blind test. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Storms_on_a_Flat_Placid_Sea.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Xbox 360
Or, at least, spermicidal condoms. ;) On May 7, 2006, at 10:36 PM, Dave Land wrote: Not without scientific proof that they are, in fact, my friends. On May 7, 2006, at 10:28 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: Yeah, well, fuck 'em. On May 7, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Dave Land wrote: Based on some of the threads around here lately, I think there are some who would not accept the existence of friendship without a double-blind test. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l