Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
On 14 Nov 2003, at 2:01 am, Reggie Bautista wrote:
William T Goodall wrote:
The UK equivalent of the Moon Pie is the Wagon Wheel (most popular
with jam rather than original). That could be eaten with Irn Bru for
maximum fat and sugar.
http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com/biscuits/previous.php3?item=64
Maybe it's just bad photos, but these look incredibly thin compared to
a Moon
Pie.
15mm thick, 74mm diameter :) With 28% Chocolate Flavoured Coating, 18%
Mallow and 7% Raspberry Flavour Plum Jam.
The real question is, are they any good? :-)
Certainly not good *for you* :) But they have a sugary fatty sticky
yumminess.
http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/irn-bru/index.asp
Hmm... sounds a little like Mountain Dew Live Wire. Has anyone on
this list
had both Live Wire and Irn Bru? If so, how do they compare?
http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/mountaindewlivewire/
2 Stars compared to Irn-Bru's 3.5. Also Irn-Bru has the unique tang
of ammonium ferric citrate ('iron brew')...
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Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
William T Goodall wrote: The UK equivalent of the Moon Pie is the Wagon Wheel (most popular with jam rather than original). That could be eaten with Irn Bru for maximum fat and sugar. http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com/biscuits/previous.php3?item=64 Maybe it's just bad photos, but these look incredibly thin compared to a Moon Pie. The real question is, are they any good? :-) http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/irn-bru/index.asp Hmm... sounds a little like Mountain Dew Live Wire. Has anyone on this list had both Live Wire and Irn Bru? If so, how do they compare? Reggie Bautista Gustatorily Curious Maru _ Send a QuickGreet with MSN Messenger http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_games ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
On 13 Nov 2003, at 4:03 pm, Julia Thompson wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Reggie Bautista wrote: Ronn! wrote: At least no one has brought up "Coke" versus "Pepsi" . . . Julia has already mentioned RC, but I haven't seen anyone yet bring up "an RC Cola and a moon-pie"... There's too much squishiness for the quantity of chocolate present in a moon pie, IMO. But I didn't grow up eating them, I grew up eating Devil Dogs. Reggie Bautista And I'm Not Even From The South Maru And I didn't grow up there. :) They serve RC Cola at Arby's. Maybe I ought to go to Arby's sometime soon. The UK equivalent of the Moon Pie is the Wagon Wheel (most popular with jam rather than original). That could be eaten with Irn Bru for maximum fat and sugar. http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com/biscuits/previous.php3?item=64 http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/irn-bru/index.asp -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ "Aerospace is plumbing with the volume turned up." - John Carmack ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Reggie Bautista wrote: > Ronn! wrote: > >At least no one has brought up "Coke" versus "Pepsi" . . . > > Julia has already mentioned RC, but I haven't seen anyone yet > bring up "an RC Cola and a moon-pie"... There's too much squishiness for the quantity of chocolate present in a moon pie, IMO. But I didn't grow up eating them, I grew up eating Devil Dogs. > Reggie Bautista > And I'm Not Even From The South Maru And I didn't grow up there. :) They serve RC Cola at Arby's. Maybe I ought to go to Arby's sometime soon. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Deborah Harrell wrote: > > Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > At least no one has brought up "Coke" versus "Pepsi" > > . . . > > That's because it's *obvious* that Coca-Cola is far > superior in every way to Brittany's drink...well, OK - > the commercials with Dole *were* pretty funny... Anyone have an opinion of the Dr. Pepper commercials? I enjoy watching them. I don't care to drink their product, but I like the entertainment their advertising provides me. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
At 12:59 AM 11/12/03 -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote: Ronn! wrote: At least no one has brought up "Coke" versus "Pepsi" . . . Julia has already mentioned RC, but I haven't seen anyone yet bring up "an RC Cola and a moon-pie"... Reggie Bautista And I'm Not Even From The South Maru I Am From The South And If I Consumed Those Together I Would Indeed Likely Bring Them Up Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
Ronn! wrote: At least no one has brought up "Coke" versus "Pepsi" . . . Julia has already mentioned RC, but I haven't seen anyone yet bring up "an RC Cola and a moon-pie"... Reggie Bautista And I'm Not Even From The South Maru _ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > At 10:31 PM 11/9/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: > > > >On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Erik Reuter wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 08:34:40PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: > > > > > > > processing between the animal and the mug. There's a very important > > > > *vegetable* involved, why not use the term "different vegetable"? > > > > > > But it is NOT a different vegetable. Or nut or whatever. As I said, the > > > instant mix DOES contain cocoa (albeit "processed" with "alkali"). You > > > could make your own instant mix out of Hershey's cocoa, sugar, and dry > > > milk. Would this taste much different than hot chocolate made from > > > Hershey's cocoa, sugar, and milk from a carton? A little, obviously, dry > > > milk tastes a little different from milk from a carton. But this is > > > really silly, and none of this is answering my question which was not > > > meant to be silly, so I'll stop replying now. > > > >OK. I was just trying to throw some levity into a situation that was > >looking a little tense. > > > >And yes, the difference *is* in how the stuff coming out of the cow is > >processed. > > > >I think the taste difference may be more apparent to some people than > >others. I've seen that sort of thing happen with other food items -- my > >mother can tell the difference between "ultra-pasteurized" half-and-half > >and stuff that's been pasteurized with a gentler process (and which has a > >shorter shelf life), and my sister can't. > > > > At least no one has brought up "Coke" versus "Pepsi" . . . I prefer one to the other, but not by a whole lot these days. There was a Bloom County cartoon that characterized both as tasting like malted battery acid. I want cherry syrup in my cola these days. Although I might be able to drink RC straight now. Not planning on finding out anytime soon, but maybe in a couple of months. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
> Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At least no one has brought up "Coke" versus "Pepsi" > . . . That's because it's *obvious* that Coca-Cola is far superior in every way to Brittany's drink...well, OK - the commercials with Dole *were* pretty funny... He Sold Him A Horse, But Delivered A Mule Maru :) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Don't read while eating Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
At 09:53 AM 11/11/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > BTW, what do you call a vegetarian with diarrhea? I'll bite. What? (Not enough brain to figure it out for myself this morning, although I got more sleep last night than I did the night before) Julia can't be any worse than what I've already dealt with this morning, right? Last chance . . . v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v A salad shooter. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
> Gary Nunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>major> > > Gheeze Debbie, next time bring up a less > controversial subject like left > handed Republican abortion supporters condemning gun > control. Surly you > could have foreseen the passionate and emotional > responses that the > delicate subject of Hot Cocoa would generate. > Warmonger. Troublemaker. Oh, dear.I had no intention of starting a flamewar...but perhaps I should start an online chapter of Chocoholics Anonymous? Seeing as I'm an avowed one and all... :} For the record, I essentially use the instant variety only to mix with coffee at work; at home I make "the real thing" with cocoa, pinch of salt, sugar, a bit of hot water -> simmer into a syrup, then add (non-skim) milk, and later a spoon of vanilla. Deelish! No marshmallows now, although I loved them in the mug as a child. Debbi Just A Spoonful Of Sugar Maru :) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Don't read while eating Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > BTW, what do you call a vegetarian with diarrhea? I'll bite. What? (Not enough brain to figure it out for myself this morning, although I got more sleep last night than I did the night before) Julia can't be any worse than what I've already dealt with this morning, right? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
- Original Message - From: "Ronn!Blankenship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Killer Bs Discussion'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:34 AM Subject: RE: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > At 09:56 PM 11/9/03 -0500, Gary Nunn wrote: > > > That's cool with meI mean its only a figure of speech in any case. > > > xponent > > > Informal Talk Maru > > > rob > > > > > >Careful Rob, Erik is flirting with you like her used to flirt with You > >Know Who. > > > > "her"? > Valdemort? xponent Potters Grave Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:03:53 -0600 - Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 09:16:05PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: > > > Out of curiosity, why reply to anyone? > As for the final question in another post, it has been a bad week for me; with my mother-in-law being operated on for ovarian cancer and not doing well afterwards. I'm sorry to hear that. :( Hopefully she'll be ok. Jon _ MSN Messenger with backgrounds, emoticons and more. http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_customize ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
At 10:35 PM 11/9/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Gary Nunn wrote: > > > >This is absurd. I start by > > > asking a straightforward question about the phenol and flavonoid > > ...yadda, yadda, yadda > > >>major snip<< > > > Gheeze Debbie, next time bring up a less controversial subject like left > handed Republican abortion supporters condemning gun control. Surly you > could have foreseen the passionate and emotional responses that the > delicate subject of Hot Cocoa would generate. Warmonger. Troublemaker. How many left-handed Republican abortion supporters are there, anyway? Heck if I know. I'm right-handed, not a Republican, and I've never had an abortion . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
At 10:31 PM 11/9/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Erik Reuter wrote: > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 08:34:40PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: > > > processing between the animal and the mug. There's a very important > > *vegetable* involved, why not use the term "different vegetable"? > > But it is NOT a different vegetable. Or nut or whatever. As I said, the > instant mix DOES contain cocoa (albeit "processed" with "alkali"). You > could make your own instant mix out of Hershey's cocoa, sugar, and dry > milk. Would this taste much different than hot chocolate made from > Hershey's cocoa, sugar, and milk from a carton? A little, obviously, dry > milk tastes a little different from milk from a carton. But this is > really silly, and none of this is answering my question which was not > meant to be silly, so I'll stop replying now. OK. I was just trying to throw some levity into a situation that was looking a little tense. And yes, the difference *is* in how the stuff coming out of the cow is processed. I think the taste difference may be more apparent to some people than others. I've seen that sort of thing happen with other food items -- my mother can tell the difference between "ultra-pasteurized" half-and-half and stuff that's been pasteurized with a gentler process (and which has a shorter shelf life), and my sister can't. At least no one has brought up "Coke" versus "Pepsi" . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
At 08:34 PM 11/9/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 7:24 PM > Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > > > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 07:22:07PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > > > You don't taste a distinct difference? > > > > You don't read well? > > > > This?...over the term "different animal"? > > You could advance straight to the name calling in your quest to prove your > superiority. > But this grasping at straws style of searching for a niche to exploit would > be tedious if it were not so amusing. > > You can even blow up and have a nice little one sided flamewar, because you > can trust in this, the feeling is not mutual. Besides, there's more than just animal involved. In fact, the only sort of animals involved are a) the one consuming the stuff, and b) the sort that produces milk to go into the hot cocoa, with whatever amount of processing between the animal and the mug. There's a very important *vegetable* involved, why not use the term "different vegetable"? BTW, what do you call a vegetarian with diarrhea? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
At 09:56 PM 11/9/03 -0500, Gary Nunn wrote: > That's cool with meI mean its only a figure of speech in any case. > xponent > Informal Talk Maru > rob Careful Rob, Erik is flirting with you like her used to flirt with You Know Who. "her"? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 10:03:53PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: > Because you brought up an experience that differed from the experience > of others, yet you claimed universality. No, I did not. > derogatory comments of the ability of the other correspondent. Taking > the first, straightforward, readings of those texts (your posts) one > would arrive at the reasonable conclusion that the author of the > texts (you) feel that those with whom he corresponds have inferior > abilities. Or one could arrive at the even more straightforward and reasonable conclusion that when someone writes nonsense when they are capable of writing something that makes sense, then I point it out, and I would hope others would do the same. > The reasons I'm fairly sure that you dissed Julia in a post a while > ago (maybe 2 weeks or so) is that I was going to mention to her how > amazed I was that she was so good at keeping discussions civil with > folks the rest of us could not. My memory is that I read a post of > yours, and thought to myself, well even Julia isn't perfect (sorry > Julia). Dan, you've got dissing on the brain. If you can't get a new concept, could you at least get a new word? -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Dan Minette wrote: > The reasons I'm fairly sure that you dissed Julia in a post a while ago > (maybe 2 weeks or so) is that I was going to mention to her how amazed I > was that she was so good at keeping discussions civil with folks the > rest of us could not. My memory is that I read a post of yours, and > thought to myself, well even Julia isn't perfect (sorry Julia). I know I'm not perfect. Certainly my memory isn't at this point. Something about having 2 small babies around and lactating for them certainly doesn't help. > As for the final question in another post, it has been a bad week for > me; with my mother-in-law being operated on for ovarian cancer and not > doing well afterwards. I'm sorry to hear that. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Gary Nunn wrote: > > > >This is absurd. I start by > > > asking a straightforward question about the phenol and flavonoid > > ...yadda, yadda, yadda > > >>major snip<< > > > Gheeze Debbie, next time bring up a less controversial subject like left > handed Republican abortion supporters condemning gun control. Surly you > could have foreseen the passionate and emotional responses that the > delicate subject of Hot Cocoa would generate. Warmonger. Troublemaker. How many left-handed Republican abortion supporters are there, anyway? Me, I've had my herbal tea and I'm going to have a little bit of chocolate cake (no frosting) before I go to bed. :) No hot chocolate tonight Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
- Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 10:22 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > > > On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Dan Minette wrote: > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 8:40 PM > > Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 08:17:05PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > > > You don't read well? > > > > > > [Nonsense deleted] > > > > > > Apparently the answer is yes. Why do I bother replying to you? Will > > > endeavor for this to be the last time. > > > > Out of curiosity, why reply to anyone? Now that you've dissed Julia, I > > cannot think of one person besides you that meets your standards. ;-) > > Out of curiosity, do you have the same trouble in RL. > > Um, he didn't dis me. Certainly not on this thread. After rereading my post, my explanation was not as clear as the idea in my head. But, I think a later post cleared that up. If you didn't feel dissed before, that's fine; and I'm not really all that inclined to search through the archives for the post I recall unless there is a hue and cry for it. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Erik Reuter wrote: > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 08:34:40PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: > > > processing between the animal and the mug. There's a very important > > *vegetable* involved, why not use the term "different vegetable"? > > But it is NOT a different vegetable. Or nut or whatever. As I said, the > instant mix DOES contain cocoa (albeit "processed" with "alkali"). You > could make your own instant mix out of Hershey's cocoa, sugar, and dry > milk. Would this taste much different than hot chocolate made from > Hershey's cocoa, sugar, and milk from a carton? A little, obviously, dry > milk tastes a little different from milk from a carton. But this is > really silly, and none of this is answering my question which was not > meant to be silly, so I'll stop replying now. OK. I was just trying to throw some levity into a situation that was looking a little tense. And yes, the difference *is* in how the stuff coming out of the cow is processed. I think the taste difference may be more apparent to some people than others. I've seen that sort of thing happen with other food items -- my mother can tell the difference between "ultra-pasteurized" half-and-half and stuff that's been pasteurized with a gentler process (and which has a shorter shelf life), and my sister can't. All I know about the difference in hot chocolate is that if I use real milk and heat it and add cocoa and sugar, I may be flirting with gastric distress later, and if I use the instant powdered stuff, I'm a lot less likely to have problems. And better data on the cocoa would be nice, yes, to tell those of us who use the instant mix just what sort of benefit we get. Now, if I list the information on my herbal tea, will someone be able to figure out what sort of anti-oxidant benefits *it* has? It's special stuff, medicinal herbal tea, that's supposed to help with lactation. It isn't hurting, at any rate, but I'm not drinking quite as much as the packaging indicates I ought to. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Dan Minette wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 8:40 PM > Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > > > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 08:17:05PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > > You don't read well? > > > > [Nonsense deleted] > > > > Apparently the answer is yes. Why do I bother replying to you? Will > > endeavor for this to be the last time. > > Out of curiosity, why reply to anyone? Now that you've dissed Julia, I > cannot think of one person besides you that meets your standards. ;-) > Out of curiosity, do you have the same trouble in RL. Um, he didn't dis me. Certainly not on this thread. He dissed Rob. I don't see my name on anything above, do you? The quote stuff indicates that he snipped stuff of Rob's. Need to watch those attributions a little more carefully, Dan. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: "Gary Nunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Killer Bs Discussion'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 10:07 PM Subject: RE: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > > > >This is absurd. I start by > > > asking a straightforward question about the phenol and flavonoid > > ...yadda, yadda, yadda > > >>major snip<< > > > Gheeze Debbie, next time bring up a less controversial subject like left > handed Republican abortion supporters condemning gun control. Surly you > could have foreseen the passionate and emotional responses that the > delicate subject of Hot Cocoa would generate. Warmonger. Troublemaker. Thank God she didn't bring up marshmallows. I saw one list disintigrate over the question: an addition or a distraction. :-) Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
> >This is absurd. I start by > > asking a straightforward question about the phenol and flavonoid ...yadda, yadda, yadda >>major snip<< Gheeze Debbie, next time bring up a less controversial subject like left handed Republican abortion supporters condemning gun control. Surly you could have foreseen the passionate and emotional responses that the delicate subject of Hot Cocoa would generate. Warmonger. Troublemaker. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
- Original Message - From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 10:03 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > As for the final question in another post, it has been a bad week for me; > with my mother-in-law being operated on for ovarian cancer and not doing > well afterwards. > You and your family are in our prayers and thoughts Dan. rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 09:16:05PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: > > > Out of curiosity, why reply to anyone? > > Just to clarify. Dan, this is insane. Apparently you weren't paying > attention, either. > > To recap, I wrote: > > > On the spectrum of tastes, they both taste quite similar, > > chocolatey. The instant variety is less rich and not as strong, > > especially if the Hershey's cocoa one is made with whole milk, but to > > call the instant a "completely different animal"? Ridiculous. > > I thought that was rather straightforward. Evidently not, since I got > the question: > > > You don't taste a distinct difference? > > How can someone ask that after what I wrote? It's a figure of speech. You have made a claim of an experience that is different from that experienced by others and had given it as a statement of fact. His statement is actually more reasonable than yours, becasue it is open to the possibility that different people have different differentiation between tastes. >This is absurd. I start by > asking a straightforward question about the phenol and flavonoid content > of instant hot chocolate to what was analyzed in the study cited. How do > we get to this nonsense? Because you brought up an experience that differed from the experience of others, yet you claimed universality. That's the sort of thing that tends to bring up contradictory posts, because most people know that they experience what they experience. > As to your question, I am always hopeful that there will be a discussion > that is not nonsense. Which there frequently is, but unfortunately not > this one. My perception is that when discussions start to be framed in terms other than the ones you think they should be, you label them nonsense and make derogatory comments of the ability of the other correspondent. Taking the first, straightforward, readings of those texts (your posts) one would arrive at the reasonable conclusion that the author of the texts (you) feel that those with whom he corresponds have inferior abilities. The reasons I'm fairly sure that you dissed Julia in a post a while ago (maybe 2 weeks or so) is that I was going to mention to her how amazed I was that she was so good at keeping discussions civil with folks the rest of us could not. My memory is that I read a post of yours, and thought to myself, well even Julia isn't perfect (sorry Julia). As for the final question in another post, it has been a bad week for me; with my mother-in-law being operated on for ovarian cancer and not doing well afterwards. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > > As to your question, I am always hopeful that there will be a discussion > that is not nonsense. Which there frequently is, but unfortunately not > this one. > You must feel out of place because the rest of us are armed to the teeth with nonsense and we know how to use it. Up Next: The No Speeky De English Defense xponent The Helpful Sense Of Humor Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 09:16:05PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: > Out of curiosity, why reply to anyone? Just to clarify. Dan, this is insane. Apparently you weren't paying attention, either. To recap, I wrote: > On the spectrum of tastes, they both taste quite similar, > chocolatey. The instant variety is less rich and not as strong, > especially if the Hershey's cocoa one is made with whole milk, but to > call the instant a "completely different animal"? Ridiculous. I thought that was rather straightforward. Evidently not, since I got the question: > You don't taste a distinct difference? How can someone ask that after what I wrote? This is absurd. I start by asking a straightforward question about the phenol and flavonoid content of instant hot chocolate to what was analyzed in the study cited. How do we get to this nonsense? As to your question, I am always hopeful that there will be a discussion that is not nonsense. Which there frequently is, but unfortunately not this one. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 08:34:40PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
> processing between the animal and the mug. There's a very important
> *vegetable* involved, why not use the term "different vegetable"?
But it is NOT a different vegetable. Or nut or whatever. As I said, the
instant mix DOES contain cocoa (albeit "processed" with "alkali"). You
could make your own instant mix out of Hershey's cocoa, sugar, and dry
milk. Would this taste much different than hot chocolate made from
Hershey's cocoa, sugar, and milk from a carton? A little, obviously,
dry milk tastes a little different from milk from a carton. But this is
really silly, and none of this is answering my question which was not
meant to be silly, so I'll stop replying now.
FYI:
Cocoa \Co"coa\ (k[=o]"k[-o]), n., Cocoa palm \Co"coa palm`\
(p[aum]m`)[Sp. & Pg. coco cocoanut, in Sp. also, cocoa palm.
The Portuguese name is said to have been given from the
monkeylike face at the base of the nut, fr. Pg. coco a
bugbear, an ugly mask to frighten children. Cf., however, Gr.
koy^ki the cocoa palm and its fruit, ko`i:x, ko`i:kos, a kind
of Egyptian palm.] (Bot.)
A palm tree producing the cocoanut ({Cocos nucifera}). It
grows in nearly all tropical countries, attaining a height of
sixty or eighty feet. The trunk is without branches, and has
a tuft of leaves at the top, each being fifteen or twenty
feet in length, and at the base of these the nuts hang in
clusters; the cocoanut tree.
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On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 09:16:05PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: > Now that you've dissed Julia, You need to pay closer attention if you think that. Out of curiousity, having an off day, Dan? -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
- Original Message - From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > > - Original Message - > From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:16 PM > Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 8:40 PM > > Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 08:17:05PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > > > You don't read well? > > > > > > [Nonsense deleted] > > > > > > Apparently the answer is yes. Why do I bother replying to you? Will > > > endeavor for this to be the last time. > > > > Out of curiosity, why reply to anyone? Now that you've dissed Julia, I > > cannot think of one person besides you that meets your standards. ;-) Out > > of curiosity, do you have the same trouble in RL. > > > > Apparently we have to add Hot Cocoa to the list of things such as religion > and politics that polite people do not discuss during dinner. > Ah, sorry, I had already finished dinner, and was on my after dinner programming. Apologies to all those still eating. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > > - Original Message - > From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 8:40 PM > Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > > > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 08:17:05PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > > You don't read well? > > > > [Nonsense deleted] > > > > Apparently the answer is yes. Why do I bother replying to you? Will > > endeavor for this to be the last time. > > Out of curiosity, why reply to anyone? Now that you've dissed Julia, I > cannot think of one person besides you that meets your standards. ;-) Out > of curiosity, do you have the same trouble in RL. > Apparently we have to add Hot Cocoa to the list of things such as religion and politics that polite people do not discuss during dinner. xponent Meet My New Girlfriend Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 8:40 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 08:17:05PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > You don't read well? > > [Nonsense deleted] > > Apparently the answer is yes. Why do I bother replying to you? Will > endeavor for this to be the last time. Out of curiosity, why reply to anyone? Now that you've dissed Julia, I cannot think of one person besides you that meets your standards. ;-) Out of curiosity, do you have the same trouble in RL. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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> That's cool with meI mean its only a figure of speech in any case. > xponent > Informal Talk Maru > rob Careful Rob, Erik is flirting with you like her used to flirt with You Know Who. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > > > On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 7:24 PM > > Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 07:22:07PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > > > > > You don't taste a distinct difference? > > > > > > You don't read well? > > > > > > > This?...over the term "different animal"? > > > > You could advance straight to the name calling in your quest to prove your > > superiority. > > But this grasping at straws style of searching for a niche to exploit would > > be tedious if it were not so amusing. > > > > You can even blow up and have a nice little one sided flamewar, because you > > can trust in this, the feeling is not mutual. > > Besides, there's more than just animal involved. In fact, the only sort > of animals involved are a) the one consuming the stuff, and b) the sort > that produces milk to go into the hot cocoa, with whatever amount of > processing between the animal and the mug. There's a very important > *vegetable* involved, why not use the term "different vegetable"? > > :) That's cool with meI mean its only a figure of speech in any case. xponent Informal Talk Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 08:17:05PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > You don't read well? [Nonsense deleted] Apparently the answer is yes. Why do I bother replying to you? Will endeavor for this to be the last time. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 7:24 PM > Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > > > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 07:22:07PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > > > You don't taste a distinct difference? > > > > You don't read well? > > > > This?...over the term "different animal"? > > You could advance straight to the name calling in your quest to prove your > superiority. > But this grasping at straws style of searching for a niche to exploit would > be tedious if it were not so amusing. > > You can even blow up and have a nice little one sided flamewar, because you > can trust in this, the feeling is not mutual. Besides, there's more than just animal involved. In fact, the only sort of animals involved are a) the one consuming the stuff, and b) the sort that produces milk to go into the hot cocoa, with whatever amount of processing between the animal and the mug. There's a very important *vegetable* involved, why not use the term "different vegetable"? :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 7:24 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 07:22:07PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > You don't taste a distinct difference? > > You don't read well? > This?...over the term "different animal"? You could advance straight to the name calling in your quest to prove your superiority. But this grasping at straws style of searching for a niche to exploit would be tedious if it were not so amusing. You can even blow up and have a nice little one sided flamewar, because you can trust in this, the feeling is not mutual. xponent Get A Grip Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 07:22:07PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: > You don't taste a distinct difference? You don't read well? -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 4:46 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 02:56:10PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > Judging only by taste they are completely different animals. > > On the spectrum of tastes, they both taste quite similar, > chocolatey. The instant variety is less rich and not as strong, > especially if the Hershey's cocoa one is made with whole milk, but to > call the instant a "completely different animal"? Ridiculous. > You don't taste a distinct difference? Other than being warm and chocolaty, they don't taste much alike at all to me. And I've never thought of my taste buds as being very discerning. xponent There Ees A Difference Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 02:56:10PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: > Judging only by taste they are completely different animals. On the spectrum of tastes, they both taste quite similar, chocolatey. The instant variety is less rich and not as strong, especially if the Hershey's cocoa one is made with whole milk, but to call the instant a "completely different animal"? Ridiculous. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 12:02:48PM -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: > > > > -Cocoa had 611 mg of phenols and 564 mg of flavonoids. > > > > -Red wine had 340 mg of phenols and 163 mg of > > flavonoids. > > -Green tea had 165 mg of phenols and 47 mg of > > flavonoids. > > -Black tea had 124 mg of phenols and 34 mg of > > flavonoids. > > Thanks for posting this. Unfortunately, the links are rather sparse on > details. Any idea what type and/or form of cocoa they tested? Did they > just buy a tin of Hershey's cocoa and test 3 spoonfuls of powder? Did > they mix cocoa powder with hot milk and add sugar and then test that? > > Just wondering, because I drink a lot of Nestle's instant hot chocolate > made from packets with "cocoa processed with alkali", just add hot water > (it has dry milk powder, whey, and some other stuff in it, too). I > wonder how the phenol and flavonoid content of the Nestle instant powder > compares with straight Hershey's cocoa out of the tin. > That's a good question (and an obvious one that I am currently too oblivious to have thought of). Judging only by taste they are completely different animals. xponent Cocoa Or Chocolate Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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> Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > -Cocoa had 611 mg of phenols and 564 mg of > flavonoids. > > -Red wine had 340 mg of phenols and 163 mg of > > flavonoids. > > -Green tea had 165 mg of phenols and 47 mg of > > flavonoids. > > -Black tea had 124 mg of phenols and 34 mg of > > flavonoids. > > Thanks for posting this. Unfortunately, the links > are rather sparse on > details. Any idea what type and/or form of cocoa > they tested? Did they > just buy a tin of Hershey's cocoa and test 3 > spoonfuls of powder? Did > they mix cocoa powder with hot milk and add sugar > and then test that? Good questions. Unfortunately, the PubMed listing has no abstract: "Ain't that sweet! Time. 2003 Sep 8;162(10):99. No abstract available." and "Plasma antioxidants from chocolate. Nature. 2003 Aug 28;424(6952):1013. No abstract available." This older study on one antioxidant in chocolate does at least measure the actual chemical in actual human blood: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10917931&dopt=Abstract > Just wondering, because I drink a lot of Nestle's > instant hot chocolate > made from packets with "cocoa processed with > alkali", just add hot water > (it has dry milk powder, whey, and some other stuff > in it, too). I > wonder how the phenol and flavonoid content of the > Nestle instant powder > compares with straight Hershey's cocoa out of the > tin. It will have less, but note that they did report the 'heat as possibly helpful' in 'driving' the antioxidants into the bloodstream, so I think the study was on cocoa 'as drunk,' not 'in the can.' If I come across any more info (possibly will be a comment in next week's Medscape digest), I'll post it. For now, I'd say that any cocoa mix which contains all-natural cocoa (some are artificially-flavored, and I have no idea if the full range of antioxidants in cocoa is in such products - although I doubt it very seriously!) will have useful/ biologically available antioxidants. Debbi who must race to a lesson now __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 12:02:48PM -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: > > -Cocoa had 611 mg of phenols and 564 mg of flavonoids. > > -Red wine had 340 mg of phenols and 163 mg of > flavonoids. > -Green tea had 165 mg of phenols and 47 mg of > flavonoids. > -Black tea had 124 mg of phenols and 34 mg of > flavonoids. Thanks for posting this. Unfortunately, the links are rather sparse on details. Any idea what type and/or form of cocoa they tested? Did they just buy a tin of Hershey's cocoa and test 3 spoonfuls of powder? Did they mix cocoa powder with hot milk and add sugar and then test that? Just wondering, because I drink a lot of Nestle's instant hot chocolate made from packets with "cocoa processed with alkali", just add hot water (it has dry milk powder, whey, and some other stuff in it, too). I wonder how the phenol and flavonoid content of the Nestle instant powder compares with straight Hershey's cocoa out of the tin. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Scouted: Cocoa Has More Antioxidants Than Red Wine, Tea
Yippee! and hot diggety! This is great news for us cocoa-drinkers! :D http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/76/90168.htm?printing=true "...Hot cocoa has more disease-fighting antioxidants than tea or red wine. And the heat may help propel them into the bloodstream. "Extensive studies have shown that black tea, green tea, red wine, and cocoa are "major" sources of antioxidants called phenols and flavonoids -- antioxidant chemicals found naturally in foods that can help prevent chronic diseases such as heart disease and cancer, writes lead researcher Ki Won Lee, PhD, a food science researcher with Seoul National University in South Korea... "...In their study, Lee and colleagues performed a complicated chemical analysis of cocoa, black tea, green tea, and red wine, finding that cocoa had the highest levels of antioxidants, twice as high as red wine, and nearly three times stronger than green tea: -Cocoa had 611 mg of phenols and 564 mg of flavonoids. -Red wine had 340 mg of phenols and 163 mg of flavonoids. -Green tea had 165 mg of phenols and 47 mg of flavonoids. -Black tea had 124 mg of phenols and 34 mg of flavonoids. "These results suggest that cocoa is more beneficial to health than teas and red wine in terms of its higher antioxidant capacity" and ability to fight damage leading to heart disease and cancer, writes Lee. "...a cup of hot cocoa has a much lower level of saturated fats (0.3 g per serving) than a bar of chocolate (8 g per 40 g bar)." Debbi who drinks cocoa frequently in winter anyway, but who now can toss out the teensy bit of "guilty pleasure" and unreservedly proclaim "cocoa gd!!!" :D __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
