Re: [Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume

2012-05-09 Thread Laur

A good alternative.

Laurie
West MI


--- On Wed, 5/9/12, Andrea Nettleton  wrote:

> From: Andrea Nettleton 
> Subject: Re: [Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume
> To: "Caller's discussion list" 
> Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 5:33 PM
> One method of having one list, but
> keeping the new dance discussions sorted is the old OT
> trick, but instead of OT we would use ND (New Dance), or
> some other designator, as a preface to the name of the dance
> under discussion.  That being the subject of the email,
> anyone not interested could simply delete.  
> Andrea
> PS. I would be more likely to participate or at least follow
> if such discussions remained on this list.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 9, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Bob Green 
> wrote:
> 
> > If we are going to post and vet new dances, I am quite
> certain a separate
> > list would be preferable. Our little caller's group
> here in Missouri would
> > alone double the word volume of the current list. While
> the total volume
> > would be the same, I think there would be distinct
> advantages to having the
> > dances presorted out from the other topics. I would
> most certainly
> > subscribe to both lists if it were done.
> > 
> > Thanks for all you do Chris!
> > 
> > Bob
> > 
> > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Chris Weiler (home)
> <
> > chris.wei...@weirdtable.org>
> wrote:
> > 
> >> Hello SW callers,
> >> 
> >> I finally caught up on my e-mail and have read the
> discussion about
> >> starting a new choreography list. My thought is
> that most if not all
> >> callers would want to be on both lists, so why not
> have them be the same
> >> list? My only answer that I could think of why not
> is if the callers list
> >> volume is getting too heavy for some people.
> >> 
> >> So I would like to know is if there are many people
> who would _not_
> >> subscribe to a choreography list?
> >> 
> >> Also, what do you think of the traffic volume
> lately? If you think that
> >> the volume is too heavy lately, would you rather
> have it divided into two
> >> lists to increase the signal to noise ratio?
> >> 
> >> Thanks to everyone for your interest and
> participation, even if it's just
> >> lurking.
> >> 
> >> Chris Weiler
> >> Your friendly neighborhood SharedWeight moderator.
> >> Craftsbury, VT
> >> 
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Re: [Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume

2012-05-09 Thread Chris Lahey
I would subscribe to the new list and would be fine with keeping them
together or separate, I don't really care.

I would like to know what the WebContent list is.  I'm unfamiliar with
that list.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Laur  wrote:
> I echo Bob's sentiment.
>
> Laurie
> West MI
>
>
> --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Bob Green  wrote:
>
>> From: Bob Green 
>> Subject: Re: [Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume
>> To: "Caller's discussion list" 
>> Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 4:16 PM
>> If we are going to post and vet new
>> dances, I am quite certain a separate
>> list would be preferable. Our little caller's group here in
>> Missouri would
>> alone double the word volume of the current list. While the
>> total volume
>> would be the same, I think there would be distinct
>> advantages to having the
>> dances presorted out from the other topics. I would most
>> certainly
>> subscribe to both lists if it were done.
>>
>> Thanks for all you do Chris!
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Chris Weiler (home) <
>> chris.wei...@weirdtable.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello SW callers,
>> >
>> > I finally caught up on my e-mail and have read the
>> discussion about
>> > starting a new choreography list. My thought is that
>> most if not all
>> > callers would want to be on both lists, so why not have
>> them be the same
>> > list? My only answer that I could think of why not is
>> if the callers list
>> > volume is getting too heavy for some people.
>> >
>> > So I would like to know is if there are many people who
>> would _not_
>> > subscribe to a choreography list?
>> >
>> > Also, what do you think of the traffic volume lately?
>> If you think that
>> > the volume is too heavy lately, would you rather have
>> it divided into two
>> > lists to increase the signal to noise ratio?
>> >
>> > Thanks to everyone for your interest and participation,
>> even if it's just
>> > lurking.
>> >
>> > Chris Weiler
>> > Your friendly neighborhood SharedWeight moderator.
>> > Craftsbury, VT
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume

2012-05-09 Thread Michael Barraclough
My web site is a haven for people to publish their dances and also has a
comment feature.

Michael Barraclough
www.michaelbarraclough.com



On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 15:56 -0400, Janet Bertog wrote:
> I was wondering if there would be some way that a website could be set up
> where new dances could be posted that people could go to.  That could keep
> the traffic on the list down.  The problem that I see with that is that
> people wouldn't be able to discuss the dances as easily, or if they did the
> dance and discussion would end up on the list anyway.  
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: callers-boun...@sharedweight.net
> [mailto:callers-boun...@sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Mortland, Jo
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 3:46 PM
> To: Caller's discussion list
> Cc: Shared Weight
> Subject: Re: [Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume
> 
> I would rather have two lists.
> 
> Jo  Mortland
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 9, 2012, at 2:23 PM, "Chris Weiler (home)"
>  wrote:
> 
> > Hello SW callers,
> > 
> > I finally caught up on my e-mail and have read the discussion about 
> > starting a new choreography list. My thought is that most if not all 
> > callers would want to be on both lists, so why not have them be the 
> > same list? My only answer that I could think of why not is if the 
> > callers list volume is getting too heavy for some people.
> > 
> > So I would like to know is if there are many people who would _not_ 
> > subscribe to a choreography list?
> > 
> > Also, what do you think of the traffic volume lately? If you think 
> > that the volume is too heavy lately, would you rather have it divided 
> > into two lists to increase the signal to noise ratio?
> > 
> > Thanks to everyone for your interest and participation, even if it's 
> > just lurking.
> > 
> > Chris Weiler
> > Your friendly neighborhood SharedWeight moderator.
> > Craftsbury, VT
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume

2012-05-09 Thread Andrea Nettleton
One method of having one list, but keeping the new dance discussions sorted is 
the old OT trick, but instead of OT we would use ND (New Dance), or some other 
designator, as a preface to the name of the dance under discussion.  That being 
the subject of the email, anyone not interested could simply delete.  
Andrea
PS. I would be more likely to participate or at least follow if such 
discussions remained on this list.  

Sent from my iPhone

On May 9, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Bob Green  wrote:

> If we are going to post and vet new dances, I am quite certain a separate
> list would be preferable. Our little caller's group here in Missouri would
> alone double the word volume of the current list. While the total volume
> would be the same, I think there would be distinct advantages to having the
> dances presorted out from the other topics. I would most certainly
> subscribe to both lists if it were done.
> 
> Thanks for all you do Chris!
> 
> Bob
> 
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Chris Weiler (home) <
> chris.wei...@weirdtable.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hello SW callers,
>> 
>> I finally caught up on my e-mail and have read the discussion about
>> starting a new choreography list. My thought is that most if not all
>> callers would want to be on both lists, so why not have them be the same
>> list? My only answer that I could think of why not is if the callers list
>> volume is getting too heavy for some people.
>> 
>> So I would like to know is if there are many people who would _not_
>> subscribe to a choreography list?
>> 
>> Also, what do you think of the traffic volume lately? If you think that
>> the volume is too heavy lately, would you rather have it divided into two
>> lists to increase the signal to noise ratio?
>> 
>> Thanks to everyone for your interest and participation, even if it's just
>> lurking.
>> 
>> Chris Weiler
>> Your friendly neighborhood SharedWeight moderator.
>> Craftsbury, VT
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Callers] Can someone recommend some Easy English Country Dances?

2012-05-09 Thread Alan Winston

I like Chris's suggestions, but will add a few:

Sicilian Circle Waltz - time
---
Waterfall Waltz
Nan's Waltz
Margaret's Waltz (has four bars of closed waltz)
The Molly Andrew

Longways
---
Midnight Ramble
Mulberry Garden
The Hop Ground
Trip to Richmond  ("Lass of Richmond Hill")

Small sets

Beggar Boy
Broom, the Bonny Bonny Broom
Chestnut

(Those small sets are all slowish and I've had good luck with 
less-experienced
dancers, but I wouldn't call them ONS material.  The others are pretty 
reasonable, but you have to teach Margaret's and Nan's carefully.  
Waterfall is a real winner with great flow and fairly large chunks.)


Do you want to join the English Country Dance mailling list 
(http://www.bacds.org/mailman/listinfo/ecd) and ask there?


-- Aaln


-- Alan


On 5/9/2012 1:39 PM, Chris Page wrote:

Off the top of my head:

Sets:
Upon a Summer's Day
Rufty Tufty
Heartease
Leah's Waltz

Longways:
Hole in the Wall
Rafe's Waltz
Morgan Rattler
Mary and Dorothy
Madiera Dream
Freeford Gardens
The Duke of Kent's Waltz
Draper's Gardens
The First of April
Prince William of Glo's'ter's Waltz (using half pousette/half draw
pousette instead of waltz around)
The Northdown Waltz
Christchurch Bells

Circle:
A Trip to Town-O
Gathering Peascods

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Re: [Callers] Can someone recommend some Easy English Country Dances?

2012-05-09 Thread Lindsay Morris
I have just done that. Thanks, David, I didn't know about it.

Lindsay Morris
CEO, TSMworks
Tel. 1-859-539-9900
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On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:26 PM, David Millstone
wrote:

> One overall suggestion is to get a copy of "21 Easy English Country
> Dances," a booklet with accompanying CD, available from CDSS:
>
> http://www.cdss.org/product-**details/product/id-21-easy-**
> english-country-dances-**booklet-with-cd.html
>
> It's a collection of classic dances with plenty of variety of formations
> and moods, and it will give you a lot of good material (plus music) from
> which to work. For example, it includes Upon a Summer's Day, which was the
> first dance in the first edition of Playford, a very accessible
> three-couple dance that introduces the USA figures-- up a double, siding,
> and arming.
>
> If you have live music, the tunes for these dances are easily available,
> and you can use the CD for your own practice beforehand.
>
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Re: [Callers] Can someone recommend some Easy English Country Dances?

2012-05-09 Thread Lindsay Morris
Perfect!!
Thanks so much, Chris!

Lindsay Morris
CEO, TSMworks
Tel. 1-859-539-9900
lind...@tsmworks.com


On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Chris Page  wrote:

> Off the top of my head:
>
> Sets:
> Upon a Summer's Day
> Rufty Tufty
> Heartease
> Leah's Waltz
>
> Longways:
> Hole in the Wall
> Rafe's Waltz
> Morgan Rattler
> Mary and Dorothy
> Madiera Dream
> Freeford Gardens
> The Duke of Kent's Waltz
> Draper's Gardens
> The First of April
> Prince William of Glo's'ter's Waltz (using half pousette/half draw
> pousette instead of waltz around)
> The Northdown Waltz
> Christchurch Bells
>
> Circle:
> A Trip to Town-O
> Gathering Peascods
>
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Re: [Callers] Can someone recommend some Easy English Country Dances?

2012-05-09 Thread Chris Page
Off the top of my head:

Sets:
Upon a Summer's Day
Rufty Tufty
Heartease
Leah's Waltz

Longways:
Hole in the Wall
Rafe's Waltz
Morgan Rattler
Mary and Dorothy
Madiera Dream
Freeford Gardens
The Duke of Kent's Waltz
Draper's Gardens
The First of April
Prince William of Glo's'ter's Waltz (using half pousette/half draw
pousette instead of waltz around)
The Northdown Waltz
Christchurch Bells

Circle:
A Trip to Town-O
Gathering Peascods

-Chris Page
San Diego


Re: [Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume

2012-05-09 Thread Bob Green
If we are going to post and vet new dances, I am quite certain a separate
list would be preferable. Our little caller's group here in Missouri would
alone double the word volume of the current list. While the total volume
would be the same, I think there would be distinct advantages to having the
dances presorted out from the other topics. I would most certainly
subscribe to both lists if it were done.

Thanks for all you do Chris!

Bob

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Chris Weiler (home) <
chris.wei...@weirdtable.org> wrote:

> Hello SW callers,
>
> I finally caught up on my e-mail and have read the discussion about
> starting a new choreography list. My thought is that most if not all
> callers would want to be on both lists, so why not have them be the same
> list? My only answer that I could think of why not is if the callers list
> volume is getting too heavy for some people.
>
> So I would like to know is if there are many people who would _not_
> subscribe to a choreography list?
>
> Also, what do you think of the traffic volume lately? If you think that
> the volume is too heavy lately, would you rather have it divided into two
> lists to increase the signal to noise ratio?
>
> Thanks to everyone for your interest and participation, even if it's just
> lurking.
>
> Chris Weiler
> Your friendly neighborhood SharedWeight moderator.
> Craftsbury, VT
>
>
> __**_
> Callers mailing list
> call...@sharedweight.net
> http://www.sharedweight.net/**mailman/listinfo/callers
>


Re: [Callers] Can someone recommend some Easy English Country Dances?

2012-05-09 Thread David Millstone
One overall suggestion is to get a copy of "21 Easy English Country Dances," a  
booklet with accompanying CD, available from CDSS:


http://www.cdss.org/product-details/product/id-21-easy-english-country-dances-booklet-with-cd.html

It's a collection of classic dances with plenty of variety of formations and moods,  
and it will give you a lot of good material (plus music) from which to work. For  
example, it includes Upon a Summer's Day, which was the first dance in the first  
edition of Playford, a very accessible three-couple dance that introduces the  
USA figures-- up a double, siding, and arming.


If you have live music, the tunes for these dances are easily available, and you  
can use the CD for your own practice beforehand.


David Millstone


Re: [Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume

2012-05-09 Thread Bree Kalb
I prefer one list that includes choreography. The list volume is not too heavy 
here for my taste; I start using delete when a discussion is going on and 
on. 

Bree Kalb
Carrboro, NC


-Original Message-
>From: "Chris Weiler (home)" 
>Sent: May 9, 2012 3:23 PM
>To: Shared Weight 
>Subject: [Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume
>
>Hello SW callers,
>
>I finally caught up on my e-mail and have read the discussion about 
>starting a new choreography list. My thought is that most if not all 
>callers would want to be on both lists, so why not have them be the same 
>list? My only answer that I could think of why not is if the callers 
>list volume is getting too heavy for some people.
>
>So I would like to know is if there are many people who would _not_ 
>subscribe to a choreography list?
>
>Also, what do you think of the traffic volume lately? If you think that 
>the volume is too heavy lately, would you rather have it divided into 
>two lists to increase the signal to noise ratio?
>
>Thanks to everyone for your interest and participation, even if it's 
>just lurking.
>
>Chris Weiler
>Your friendly neighborhood SharedWeight moderator.
>Craftsbury, VT
>
>
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Re: [Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume

2012-05-09 Thread Lindsay Morris
I'd vote for one list. Easy enough to search for the title if a dance there.

On May 9, 2012, at 3:56 PM, "Janet Bertog"  wrote:

> I was wondering if there would be some way that a website could be set up
> where new dances could be posted that people could go to.  That could keep
> the traffic on the list down.  The problem that I see with that is that
> people wouldn't be able to discuss the dances as easily, or if they did the
> dance and discussion would end up on the list anyway.  
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: callers-boun...@sharedweight.net
> [mailto:callers-boun...@sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Mortland, Jo
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 3:46 PM
> To: Caller's discussion list
> Cc: Shared Weight
> Subject: Re: [Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume
> 
> I would rather have two lists.
> 
> Jo  Mortland
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 9, 2012, at 2:23 PM, "Chris Weiler (home)"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hello SW callers,
>> 
>> I finally caught up on my e-mail and have read the discussion about 
>> starting a new choreography list. My thought is that most if not all 
>> callers would want to be on both lists, so why not have them be the 
>> same list? My only answer that I could think of why not is if the 
>> callers list volume is getting too heavy for some people.
>> 
>> So I would like to know is if there are many people who would _not_ 
>> subscribe to a choreography list?
>> 
>> Also, what do you think of the traffic volume lately? If you think 
>> that the volume is too heavy lately, would you rather have it divided 
>> into two lists to increase the signal to noise ratio?
>> 
>> Thanks to everyone for your interest and participation, even if it's 
>> just lurking.
>> 
>> Chris Weiler
>> Your friendly neighborhood SharedWeight moderator.
>> Craftsbury, VT
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume

2012-05-09 Thread Janet Bertog
I was wondering if there would be some way that a website could be set up
where new dances could be posted that people could go to.  That could keep
the traffic on the list down.  The problem that I see with that is that
people wouldn't be able to discuss the dances as easily, or if they did the
dance and discussion would end up on the list anyway.  



-Original Message-
From: callers-boun...@sharedweight.net
[mailto:callers-boun...@sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Mortland, Jo
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 3:46 PM
To: Caller's discussion list
Cc: Shared Weight
Subject: Re: [Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume

I would rather have two lists.

Jo  Mortland

Sent from my iPhone

On May 9, 2012, at 2:23 PM, "Chris Weiler (home)"
 wrote:

> Hello SW callers,
> 
> I finally caught up on my e-mail and have read the discussion about 
> starting a new choreography list. My thought is that most if not all 
> callers would want to be on both lists, so why not have them be the 
> same list? My only answer that I could think of why not is if the 
> callers list volume is getting too heavy for some people.
> 
> So I would like to know is if there are many people who would _not_ 
> subscribe to a choreography list?
> 
> Also, what do you think of the traffic volume lately? If you think 
> that the volume is too heavy lately, would you rather have it divided 
> into two lists to increase the signal to noise ratio?
> 
> Thanks to everyone for your interest and participation, even if it's 
> just lurking.
> 
> Chris Weiler
> Your friendly neighborhood SharedWeight moderator.
> Craftsbury, VT
> 
> 
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Re: [Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume

2012-05-09 Thread Chris Page
I'd rather keep it on this list until there's enough traffic to
support another list. There's a minimum amount of traffic needed to
keep a list alive.

Anyone remember WebContent?

Dead for six months after a brief flurry of initial posts.

Musicians?

Just has the rare press release.

And those were topics clearly separate from the main caller's list.

-Chris Page
San Diego

p.s. An alternate is to request people mark choreography posts in
their headers with some sort of tag, like [Choreo]. That's not the
best word, but it gives people an idea.


Re: [Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume

2012-05-09 Thread Perry Shafran
I would subscribe.  Although I'm pretty sure that nearly everyone on the 
callers list would be on the choreography list so the volume of mail would stay 
the same.  And since knowing choreography is an important part of being a 
caller that I would think that one list would suffice.  Volume doesn't really 
bother me - the more info the better!

Perry

--- On Wed, 5/9/12, Chris Weiler (home)  wrote:

From: Chris Weiler (home) 
Subject: [Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume
To: "Shared Weight" 
List-Post: callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 3:23 PM

Hello SW callers,

I finally caught up on my e-mail and have read the discussion about starting a 
new choreography list. My thought is that most if not all callers would want to 
be on both lists, so why not have them be the same list? My only answer that I 
could think of why not is if the callers list volume is getting too heavy for 
some people.

So I would like to know is if there are many people who would _not_ subscribe 
to a choreography list?

Also, what do you think of the traffic volume lately? If you think that the 
volume is too heavy lately, would you rather have it divided into two lists to 
increase the signal to noise ratio?

Thanks to everyone for your interest and participation, even if it's just 
lurking.

Chris Weiler
Your friendly neighborhood SharedWeight moderator.
Craftsbury, VT


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[Callers] New choreo list / traffic volume

2012-05-09 Thread Chris Weiler (home)

Hello SW callers,

I finally caught up on my e-mail and have read the discussion about 
starting a new choreography list. My thought is that most if not all 
callers would want to be on both lists, so why not have them be the same 
list? My only answer that I could think of why not is if the callers 
list volume is getting too heavy for some people.


So I would like to know is if there are many people who would _not_ 
subscribe to a choreography list?


Also, what do you think of the traffic volume lately? If you think that 
the volume is too heavy lately, would you rather have it divided into 
two lists to increase the signal to noise ratio?


Thanks to everyone for your interest and participation, even if it's 
just lurking.


Chris Weiler
Your friendly neighborhood SharedWeight moderator.
Craftsbury, VT




Re: [Callers] New Dance: The Raeden Reel

2012-05-09 Thread Janet Bertog
Last weekend Susan Moffett called this dance at the Lexington dance.  I
loved the first part.  Cary Ravitz and I worked on another alternate version
of it that he has up on his page now:  
http://ravitz.us/miscdances/#rr.  He just called it Raeden Reel alternate,
but it is actually very very close to Seven Sevens.




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From: callers-boun...@sharedweight.net
[mailto:callers-boun...@sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Bob Isaacs
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 2:30 PM
To: Shared Weight
Subject: Re: [Callers] New Dance: The Raeden Reel


Hi All:

Nice to see this dance has been well received so far.  I'm sure it makes a
proud Dad even prouder.  For those interested, here's some background on the
choreography of this dance.  The A1 is not new, and goes back over 10 years
to a dance I wrote for Jim Kitch:

Kitch as Kitch CanImproper

A1.  Balance, box the gnat, Mad Robin
A2.  Gents allemande L 1 1/2, 1/2 hey (PR, LL, NR, GL) B1.  Partner gypsy
and swing B2.  Ladies chain, star L

Jim in turn found a way to include a second swing:

Seven Sevens Becket

A1.  Circle L 3/4, neighbor swing
A2.  R and L through, star L
B1.  W/next balance, box the gnat, Mad Robin B2.  Gents pass L, partner
gypsy and swing

It is this dance that has become better known.  Lesson learned; whenever one
writes a good dance with one swing, try to find a better dance with two
swings.

So to write The Raeden Reel, I just switched the swing connectors.  I also
went back to improper to emphasize the balance.  The new transition in The
Raeden Reel is the Mad Robin/circle, which as far as I know isn't in other
contras - 

Bob




> From: sharedweight_...@veino.com
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 17:16:28 -0400
> To: call...@sharedweight.net
> Subject: [Callers] New Dance: The Raeden Reel
> 
> Hi Folks, passing along a new dance I'm partial to (not the least 
> reason being that it's named after our baby daughter). The dance is by 
> Bob Isaacs and the composition was won as an auction item at a recent 
> Concord Scout House fundraiser by a friend of ours, whom named it after
our young maiden.
> It was first called at the Thursday 4/19/12 dance before NEFFA, to our 
> total surprise (and with Raeden dancing with us!).
> 
> There's a video of it being called by me this past Saturday (not my 
> best go of the evening :) to music by the new band Firefly at 
> http://youtu.be/tDtih1tgdVs .
> 
> -Don
> 
> The Raeden Reel - DI - Bob Isaacs
> 
> A1
> 
> (4,4) Bal., box the gnat
> 
> (8) Mad Robin
> 
> A2
> 
> (6) Cir. Lt. 3/4
> 
> (10) p swing
> 
> B1
> 
> (8) G allem. Lt. 1+1/2
> 
> (8) n swing
> 
> B2
> 
> (8) Rt. & Lt. Thru
> 
> (8) star Lt.
> 
> *Bob says: "In the Mad Robin, gents pass in front to start. All push 
> off from the box the gnat and can confidently look at their partner 
> because they know where their neighbor is."*
> 
> *Sponsored by Robin Humes for Don and Sage Veino's daughter Raeden. 
> Robin won it at the Concord Scout House auction 11/12/11. Composed 
> 4/12/12, called first at the Scout House on 4/19/12.* 
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Re: [Callers] New Dance: The Raeden Reel

2012-05-09 Thread Bob Isaacs

Hi All:
 
Nice to see this dance has been well received so far.  I'm sure it makes a 
proud Dad even prouder.  For those interested, here's some background on the 
choreography of this dance.  The A1 is not new, and goes back over 10 years to 
a dance I wrote for Jim Kitch:
 
Kitch as Kitch CanImproper
 
A1.  Balance, box the gnat, Mad Robin
A2.  Gents allemande L 1 1/2, 1/2 hey (PR, LL, NR, GL)
B1.  Partner gypsy and swing
B2.  Ladies chain, star L
 
Jim in turn found a way to include a second swing:
 
Seven Sevens Becket
 
A1.  Circle L 3/4, neighbor swing
A2.  R and L through, star L
B1.  W/next balance, box the gnat, Mad Robin
B2.  Gents pass L, partner gypsy and swing
 
It is this dance that has become better known.  Lesson learned; whenever one 
writes a good dance with one swing, try to find a better dance with two swings.
 
So to write The Raeden Reel, I just switched the swing connectors.  I also went 
back to improper to emphasize the balance.  The new transition in The Raeden 
Reel is the Mad Robin/circle, which as far as I know isn't in other contras - 
 
Bob

 


> From: sharedweight_...@veino.com
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 17:16:28 -0400
> To: call...@sharedweight.net
> Subject: [Callers] New Dance: The Raeden Reel
> 
> Hi Folks, passing along a new dance I'm partial to (not the least reason
> being that it's named after our baby daughter). The dance is by Bob Isaacs
> and the composition was won as an auction item at a recent Concord Scout
> House fundraiser by a friend of ours, whom named it after our young maiden.
> It was first called at the Thursday 4/19/12 dance before NEFFA, to our
> total surprise (and with Raeden dancing with us!).
> 
> There's a video of it being called by me this past Saturday (not my best go
> of the evening :) to music by the new band Firefly at
> http://youtu.be/tDtih1tgdVs .
> 
> -Don
> 
> The Raeden Reel – DI – Bob Isaacs
> 
> A1
> 
> (4,4) Bal., box the gnat
> 
> (8) Mad Robin
> 
> A2
> 
> (6) Cir. Lt. 3/4
> 
> (10) p swing
> 
> B1
> 
> (8) G allem. Lt. 1+1/2
> 
> (8) n swing
> 
> B2
> 
> (8) Rt. & Lt. Thru
> 
> (8) star Lt.
> 
> *Bob says: “In the Mad Robin, gents pass in front to start. All push off
> from the box the gnat and can confidently look at their partner because
> they know where their neighbor is.”*
> 
> *Sponsored by Robin Humes for Don and Sage Veino's daughter Raeden. Robin
> won it at the Concord Scout House auction 11/12/11. Composed 4/12/12,
> called first at the Scout House on 4/19/12.*
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Re: [Callers] mentorship

2012-05-09 Thread Perry Shafran
When I think of mentorship, I'm thinking of a one-to-one relationship where one 
experienced caller really guides a newbie, but I don't think I went through 
that per se. Tom Hinds taught a 4-week (maybe more?  I forget) caller's 
workshop back in 2002, and I jumped at the chance for the opportunity.  He was 
an excellent teacher, focusing on knowing your dances so well you don't need 
your cards to call them.  
Once that was finished, we had a group of experienced and new callers in the 
DC/Baltimore area called the Caller's Collective.  Occasionally we would get 
together for a potluck and some calling practice, generally to recorded music.  
Lots of experienced dancers helped guide us in gently giving us constructive 
criticism and lots of positive feedback.  
In time I went through the route that Ron is doing now - finding callers who 
would give me a guest caller slot. There were several who were happy to do so - 
Susan Taylor, Greg Frock, Ann Fallon, etc.  (Though unlike Ron I didn't travel 
hither and yon to get these guest spots - but in DC/Maryland there are plenty 
of dances to get opportunities.)  I am supremely grateful to these folks who 
gave me a slot - especially Peggy Hesley who gave me my very first calling 
opportunity at my home dance of Annapolis December 2002.  Hard to believe 
that's nearly 10 years ago!
There have been occassional other workshops - mainly focusing on one-night 
stands and such, and we had another new caller's workshop I think 2007 where I 
focused on square calling.  Nowadays though I find myself on the other end of 
giving callers guest spots whenever they ask.  
Perry

--- On Tue, 5/8/12, Ron T Blechner  wrote:

From: Ron T Blechner 
Subject: Re: [Callers] mentorship
To: "Caller's discussion list" 
List-Post: callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Date: Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 8:35 PM

Hi Lynn & SW:

When I first was dabbling in the idea of calling, last summer, Marty
Fager from CDNY was a person I bounced ideas off, and he was happy to
share experiences. He's continued to assist me, but since I live near
Princeton, and Bob Isaacs seems to always be sniffing around for new
callers, he took me under his wing. (And a large wing, as then Bob
would create a caller's workshop for a dozen of us!)

There is an *incredibly* large amount of things a new caller needs to
learn. A lot of it can be written down and then reviewed by a mentor,
and then the calling is all about getting opportunity behind the mic
with real dancers.

If CDSS is interested in fostering more shared resources / creating a
framework for a remote new caller mentoring program, some ideas:
- There are a few Internet solutions for free-or-cheap, real-time
meetings / voice calling.
- One of the biggest challenges is learning dances. A library of
shared dances would be invaluable. (Also, for a dance
choreographer...)
- There's a number of good books already written by a number of good
callers. Bob wrote his own sizable workbook for the caller's workshop,
too. The CDSS shopkeeper could create a sub-section of the books on
the website for just calling, and just dances - it's difficult
sometimes to weed through everything. Maybe a book-club for one or
more of these contra calling books could have a basic curriculum
developed?
- There seems to be a wide variety of feelings on guest calling
opportunities. I'm blessed because Glenside, PA has local caller
nights and has been receptive to new callers, Princeton encourages
guest calling with *every* local rotation caller, and I've known the
CDNY folks for years and so have been able to secure guest spots
there. However, there are many dances that just aren't receptive to
guest spots. There are still others where the organizers don't care
either way, and put it on the individual callers to decide. I'm
certainly not saying that there ought to be any unified way, but
discussion overall across CDSS of how dance organizers and callers
feel about guest callers would go a long way in opening people up to
the idea, maybe planning for it, maybe encouraging it.
- There's a gap in time between when a trained new caller CAN call and
when they get gigs. I'm faced with this now. I've got a few
half-nights lined up with dances that are my regular dances *and*
because I have strong recommendations. I hear time and time again from
callers with 3-5 years experience that the first year and booking
first gigs is really, really difficult. What I might recommend would
be a database listing of new-caller-friendly dances, for example,
smaller university dances that have difficulty drawing premium callers
and bands and may only have 20 - 30 dancers per night.
- These online groups are great. Shared weight has a lot of
interesting discussion, and though I'm a lurker and just listen in,
I've gained a lot of insight, even just on seemingly trivial threads.
(Like talking about the merits of one particular dance, for example.)
I've heard 

Re: [Callers] Mentorship for Choreographers

2012-05-09 Thread Perry Shafran
I was just thinking the opposite.  I think learning dances and knowing dances 
and how they flow is a supremely huge part of being a caller and learning 
calling skills. I don't think another list is necessary - especially 
considering that most if not all of us will be on that other list anyways.  
Perry

--- On Wed, 5/9/12, Michael Fuerst  wrote:

From: Michael Fuerst 
Subject: Re: [Callers] Mentorship for Choreographers
To: "Caller's discussion list" 
List-Post: callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 2:47 AM

A separate 
Choreographers list would be best.   Some excellent dances don't experience a 
period of popularity because callers can't visualize them.   How callers might 
expand their dance visualization skills would be a worthwhile topic for this 
callers' forumNew dances range from those  (1)  that recombine figures into 
original and enjoyable but non-ingenious ways, and (2) those that show 
ingenuity by inventing a new variation of a figure or new transition among 
figures.     

Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801   217-239-5844

--- On Wed, 5/9/12, Laur  wrote:

From: Laur 
Subject: Re: [Callers] Mentorship for Choreographers
To: "Caller's discussion list" 
List-Post: callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 12:01 AM

Although I definitely appreciate and incorporate the discussions of new dances 
in this list, I would also appreciate, and mostly prefer, a differentiation.  

I would like to know that this is the list for calling and another list I can 
gravitate to for new dances and discussions on them.  I would subscribe to 
both, and read both.  I feel that the distinction would be most beneficial.
~

Laurie P
West MI~


--- On Tue, 5/8/12, Mark Hillegonds  wrote:

> From: Mark Hillegonds 
> Subject: [Callers] Mentorship for Choreographers
> To: "'Caller's discussion list'" 
> Date: Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 9:35 PM
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been following with interest the discussion on calling
> and mentorships.
> Ron Blechner mentioned choreographers in his recent post and
> I'd like to
> expand on that a bit, so starting a new thread.
> 
> It's been my experience that unless one is a well-known
> choreographer
> (Ravitz, Hume, Ormand, Sanella, Olsen, and any number of
> others) it can be
> difficult get new dances into the light of day and, in the
> theme of
> mentorship, get feedback on them.
> 
> There are certainly a number of dances posted to this list
> and feedback is
> readily and warmly given. I have gleaned a number of dances
> from this list
> and am glad to see them, both as a caller and
> choreographer.
> 
> Three of questions for you:
> 1.  Do you see this [Caller] list an appropriate place
> to publish new
> dances? Too many postings of new dances could dilute the
> [Caller] aspect of
> the list.
> 2.  Do you feel there would be interest in a separate
> [Choreographer] list?
> I can see this list really focusing on creating new dances,
> getting
> feedback, and getting the word out about new dances. It
> could be a nice
> venue for choreographic student/mentorship stuff to happen.
> 3.  What would you think about a monthly
> dances-of-the-month email to
> consolidate new dances into a single or some moderated
> number of emails.
> 
> Mark Hillegonds
> 
> cell:  734-756-8441
> email:  mhillego...@comcast.net
> blog:  www.defriction.com
> 
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[Callers] mentorship

2012-05-09 Thread Michael Fuerst
Contra calling is a relatively easy skill to learn--much easier than mastering 
fiddle-playing, auto repair, child rearing or Photoshop.   After getting 
several hours of initial instruction in contra calling, the challenge becomes 
getting 40-100 hours practice over 10- 50 dance events needed to experience the 
various things that might go wrong or that one might do wrong, while having 
more experienced callers nearby to counsel one through the mishaps.  And of 
course workshops will intercept some of the potential mishaps.

Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801   217-239-5844

--- On Wed, 5/9/12, Rich Goss  wrote:

From: Rich Goss 
Subject: Re: [Callers] mentorship
To: "Caller's discussion list" 
List-Post: callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 12:55 AM

I may have missed it, but I haven't seen William Watson's excellent collection 
of caller resources.

http://www.quiteapair.us/calling/

Rich
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Re: [Callers] mentorship

2012-05-09 Thread Rich Goss
I may have missed it, but I haven't seen William Watson's excellent collection 
of caller resources.

http://www.quiteapair.us/calling/

Rich

Re: [Callers] Mentorship for Choreographers

2012-05-09 Thread Laur
Although I definitely appreciate and incorporate the discussions of new dances 
in this list, I would also appreciate, and mostly prefer, a differentiation.  

I would like to know that this is the list for calling and another list I can 
gravitate to for new dances and discussions on them.  I would subscribe to 
both, and read both.  I feel that the distinction would be most beneficial.
~

Laurie P
West MI~


--- On Tue, 5/8/12, Mark Hillegonds  wrote:

> From: Mark Hillegonds 
> Subject: [Callers] Mentorship for Choreographers
> To: "'Caller's discussion list'" 
> Date: Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 9:35 PM
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been following with interest the discussion on calling
> and mentorships.
> Ron Blechner mentioned choreographers in his recent post and
> I'd like to
> expand on that a bit, so starting a new thread.
> 
> It's been my experience that unless one is a well-known
> choreographer
> (Ravitz, Hume, Ormand, Sanella, Olsen, and any number of
> others) it can be
> difficult get new dances into the light of day and, in the
> theme of
> mentorship, get feedback on them.
> 
> There are certainly a number of dances posted to this list
> and feedback is
> readily and warmly given. I have gleaned a number of dances
> from this list
> and am glad to see them, both as a caller and
> choreographer.
> 
> Three of questions for you:
> 1.  Do you see this [Caller] list an appropriate place
> to publish new
> dances? Too many postings of new dances could dilute the
> [Caller] aspect of
> the list.
> 2.  Do you feel there would be interest in a separate
> [Choreographer] list?
> I can see this list really focusing on creating new dances,
> getting
> feedback, and getting the word out about new dances. It
> could be a nice
> venue for choreographic student/mentorship stuff to happen.
> 3.  What would you think about a monthly
> dances-of-the-month email to
> consolidate new dances into a single or some moderated
> number of emails.
> 
> Mark Hillegonds
> 
> cell:  734-756-8441
> email:  mhillego...@comcast.net
> blog:  www.defriction.com
> 
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Re: [Callers] mentorship

2012-05-09 Thread Janet Bertog
I have just recently joined this list and I am very new to calling.  I took
a caller's workshop at Contradancer's Delight Holiday and have called one
half night and one full night at my local dance.  But, I would like to point
out that Cary Ravitz has a tremendous resource on his webpage
(http://ravitz.us/dance) for callers and choreographers.  In addition to all
his dances, he also has a link to Michael Dyke's index, and to most other
webpages where dances are published.  He also has his own notes on calling
and writing dances as well as links to several other people's notes, and
links to several dance collections.  

I am also interested in the sharing of new dances, either on this list or a
separate list.  I like the idea of sharing ideas and seeing what other
people are doing.  

Janet


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From: callers-boun...@sharedweight.net
[mailto:callers-boun...@sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Ron T Blechner
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:36 PM
To: Caller's discussion list
Subject: Re: [Callers] mentorship

Hi Lynn & SW:

When I first was dabbling in the idea of calling, last summer, Marty Fager
from CDNY was a person I bounced ideas off, and he was happy to share
experiences. He's continued to assist me, but since I live near Princeton,
and Bob Isaacs seems to always be sniffing around for new callers, he took
me under his wing. (And a large wing, as then Bob would create a caller's
workshop for a dozen of us!)

There is an *incredibly* large amount of things a new caller needs to learn.
A lot of it can be written down and then reviewed by a mentor, and then the
calling is all about getting opportunity behind the mic with real dancers.

If CDSS is interested in fostering more shared resources / creating a
framework for a remote new caller mentoring program, some ideas:
- There are a few Internet solutions for free-or-cheap, real-time meetings /
voice calling.
- One of the biggest challenges is learning dances. A library of shared
dances would be invaluable. (Also, for a dance
choreographer...)
- There's a number of good books already written by a number of good
callers. Bob wrote his own sizable workbook for the caller's workshop, too.
The CDSS shopkeeper could create a sub-section of the books on the website
for just calling, and just dances - it's difficult sometimes to weed through
everything. Maybe a book-club for one or more of these contra calling books
could have a basic curriculum developed?
- There seems to be a wide variety of feelings on guest calling
opportunities. I'm blessed because Glenside, PA has local caller nights and
has been receptive to new callers, Princeton encourages guest calling with
*every* local rotation caller, and I've known the CDNY folks for years and
so have been able to secure guest spots there. However, there are many
dances that just aren't receptive to guest spots. There are still others
where the organizers don't care either way, and put it on the individual
callers to decide. I'm certainly not saying that there ought to be any
unified way, but discussion overall across CDSS of how dance organizers and
callers feel about guest callers would go a long way in opening people up to
the idea, maybe planning for it, maybe encouraging it.
- There's a gap in time between when a trained new caller CAN call and when
they get gigs. I'm faced with this now. I've got a few half-nights lined up
with dances that are my regular dances *and* because I have strong
recommendations. I hear time and time again from callers with 3-5 years
experience that the first year and booking first gigs is really, really
difficult. What I might recommend would be a database listing of
new-caller-friendly dances, for example, smaller university dances that have
difficulty drawing premium callers and bands and may only have 20 - 30
dancers per night.
- These online groups are great. Shared weight has a lot of interesting
discussion, and though I'm a lurker and just listen in, I've gained a lot of
insight, even just on seemingly trivial threads.
(Like talking about the merits of one particular dance, for example.) I've
heard the singing squares workshop from Pinewoods has a great group.
Princeton has a group from Bob's class and there's a lot of discussion
between us informally.
- I'd love a list of every dance everywhere, divided by region, with
listings of address, organizers, contact info, links to websites, and their
policies toward callers. (does this resource exist?)

Anyway. Watching this discussion unfold is heartening - as I join the caller
community, I have met a LOT of callers who are warm and welcoming and foster
a spirit of cooperation. I would say it's easily the majority of callers who
do this. Continuing to cultivate a spirit of cooperation and concreting it
as the social norm in the contra community at large is a big benefit for new
callers.

In Dance,
-Ron Blechner

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:08 PM, lynn ackerson  wrote:
> Why am I asking? As a CDSS 

Re: [Callers] Mentorship for Choreographers

2012-05-09 Thread Perry Shafran
Agree with Brian - sharing dances here would be a most useful resource for 
increasing one's repertoire!

Perry


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Re: [Callers] Mentorship for Choreographers

2012-05-09 Thread Brian Hamshar
I love the idea, and I would utilize it as a very useful resource. I'm not so 
concerned about deeing possibly inferior material ... I'd be interested in the 
exchange of ideas.

Bring it on! 

Brian Hamshar
Virginia 

Alan Winston  wrote:

>On 5/8/2012 6:35 PM, Mark Hillegonds wrote:
>
> > It's been my experience that unless one is a well-known choreographer 
>(Ravitz, >Hume, Ormand, Sanella, Olsen, and any number of others) it can 
>be difficult get >new dances into the light of day and, in the theme of 
>mentorship, get feedback on >them. There are certainly a number of 
>dances posted to this list and feedback is >readily and warmly given. I 
>have gleaned a number of dances from this list and am >glad to see them, 
>both as a caller and choreographer.
>
> >Three of questions for you:
>
> >1. Do you see this [Caller] list an appropriate place to publish new 
>dances? Too >many postings of new dances could dilute the [Caller] 
>aspect of the list.
>
>I do see it as an appropriate place.  It seems mutually beneficial to me 
>for choreographers to put new dances under caller's noses, and the 
>volume of new dances posted so far isn't very high.
>
>There are three types of postings that, for me as a caller (acting like 
>a filter feeder who snags things as they come by) have almost the same 
>effect:
>
>  - I wrote down this dance - anybody know what it is?
>
>  - I think I made up this dance - does it exist already?
>
>- Here's my cool new dance - I hope you'll like it.
>
>I don't see much point in segregating the third type of post to another 
>list.
>
>
>
> > 2. Do you feel there would be interest in a separate [Choreographer] 
>list? I can >see this list really focusing on creating new dances, 
>getting feedback, and >getting the word out about new dances. It could 
>be a nice venue for >choreographic student/mentorship stuff to happen.
>
>If there were one, I would probably sign up so that I didn't miss 
>anything.  That's different from thinking there's actual demand for it.
>
> >3. What would you think about a monthly dances-of-the-month email to 
> >consolidate new dances into a single or some moderated number of emails
>
>The devil is in the details there.  From what pool are the new dances 
>drawn?  Who's doing the moderating?  What makes the cut?
>
>-- Alan
>
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Re: [Callers] Mentorship for Choreographers

2012-05-09 Thread Brian Hamshar
This sounds great!  A centralized resource for sharing dances -- new or not -- 
is something I would consult and post to often.

Brian Hamshar
Virginia 

Mark Hillegonds  wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I've been following with interest the discussion on calling and mentorships.
>Ron Blechner mentioned choreographers in his recent post and I'd like to
>expand on that a bit, so starting a new thread.
>
>It's been my experience that unless one is a well-known choreographer
>(Ravitz, Hume, Ormand, Sanella, Olsen, and any number of others) it can be
>difficult get new dances into the light of day and, in the theme of
>mentorship, get feedback on them.
>
>There are certainly a number of dances posted to this list and feedback is
>readily and warmly given. I have gleaned a number of dances from this list
>and am glad to see them, both as a caller and choreographer.
>
>Three of questions for you:
>1.  Do you see this [Caller] list an appropriate place to publish new
>dances? Too many postings of new dances could dilute the [Caller] aspect of
>the list.
>2.  Do you feel there would be interest in a separate [Choreographer] list?
>I can see this list really focusing on creating new dances, getting
>feedback, and getting the word out about new dances. It could be a nice
>venue for choreographic student/mentorship stuff to happen.
>3.  What would you think about a monthly dances-of-the-month email to
>consolidate new dances into a single or some moderated number of emails.
>
>Mark Hillegonds
>
>cell:  734-756-8441
>email:  mhillego...@comcast.net
>blog:  www.defriction.com
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