Re: [Callers] How many beats to a rip/snort?

[Ben Werner via Callers]

All,

I wrote the following dance with a Rip and Snort. Due to the slight 
modification and squishy timing of down the hall it works out. I think it 
usually takes about 4 -6 beats in my dance. 

Rip and Snort 
duple improper
Ben Werner

A1:  (8) Balance the ring, Rip and Snort (1s arch 2s dive through, 
separate, maintaining connection, end in a short facing down the hall line with 
the 1s in the middle.)
(8) Down the Hall, 2s gate the 1s (1s keep walking forward and 2s 
back up to end with the 2s in the middle and 1s on the outside)
A2:  (8) Up the hall
(8) Gents Allemande Right 1 1/2
B1:  (16) Partner Balance and swing
B2:  (8) balance the ring, petronella
(8) balance the ring, California twirl

Cheers,
Ben


> On Apr 7, 2018, at 3:11 PM, Tom Hinds via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think you're correct about it taking between 4 and 8 beats (more like 6).
> 
> If you want someone to ask, I'm pretty sure Jane Ewing of Alabama wrote a 
> dance with this move in it.
> 
> I don't think that we need to be rigid about the names we use today, but I 
> suspect that historically cowboy loop was for four people and rip and snort 
> was for 8.  There are callers who have been calling longer than I have and 
> can correct me if I'm wrong.
> 
> Tom
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2018, at 1:12 PM, K Panton via Callers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I've looked in the usual places and came up with only two examples of a 
>> dance with a Rip/Snort (Rip 'n' Snort?) but one is inaccessible online.
>> 
>> How many beats does it take to dance a rip/snort for two couples? My brain 
>> says 4 is too short and 8 is too long. I found one dance that pairs it with 
>> a ring balance for a total of 8 beats.
>> 
>> I haven't access to "Roll Over Johannes" to see how Becky Hill made use of 
>> it.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Ken Panton
>> ___
>> List Name:  Callers mailing list
>> List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
>> Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/
> 
> ___
> List Name:  Callers mailing list
> List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
> Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/

___
List Name:  Callers mailing list
List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/

Re: [Callers] Looking for a CD that would have full length contra tunes for calling

[Jeanette Mill via Callers]

Wild Asparagus Live at the Guiding Star Grange is perfect as it was recorded at 
a dance. And it's Wild Asparagus :-)

cheersJeanette

Jeanette Mill
 
Contra dance caller, musician, workshop facilitator

Canberra, Australia

Phone: +61 (0)449 686 077
 
Email: jeanette_m...@yahoo.com.au
 
Skype: jeanette.mill
 
  
 
"The piano - 88 little mistakes waiting to happen"Kate Barnes
 
  
 

On Sunday, 8 April 2018, 2:43:51 am AEST, Cheryl Joyal via Callers 
 wrote:  
 
 Ordered this one and a couple others suggested from CDSS store and have been 
inspired by other response to start checking my regular CD collection for 
longer tune sets !
Cheryl Joyalclmjoyal@gmail.comclmjoyal@aol.com630-667-3284 (cell)



On Apr 7, 2018, at 11:37 AM, Rich Sbardella  wrote:
New England Dance Masters is always a good resource for dance music.  Here is 
one of theirs.http://dancingmasters.com/product/any-jig-or-reel-cd/
Rich
On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 1:38 AM, Laur via Callers 
 wrote:

Yes great


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Saturday, April 7, 2018, 1:36 AM, Karen Fontana  
wrote:

 From the West: KGB (Seattle) "Volga Notions" -- " the music on this album is 
formatted for dancing or calling practice. Three tracks are waltzes, two are 
jig medleys, five are reel medleys, and one is a jig-to-reel medley."Has the 
four potatoes.. 
http://www.kgbmole.com/kgb/ volga.html




On Friday, April 6, 2018, 8:44:00 PM PDT, Laur via Callers 
 wrote:  
 
 Cheryl, It’s a great CD  DO IT. 
I am also looking for tunes that have some intro beats to use. I did find some 
thanks to friends that had collections. 
Laurie


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad


On Friday, April 6, 2018, 10:53 PM, Mac Mckeever via Callers 
 wrote:

We have one from 1998 dance weekend  - tracks are 9 to 12 min long.  They are 
strictly old-time bands and a little faster than some are used to
Might not be what you want - but let me know if  you want to try it
'Face the Creek'  $12 includes shipping
Mac McKeeverSt Louis
 

On Friday, April 6, 2018, 7:56:15 PM CDT, Cheryl Joyal via Callers 
 wrote:  
 
 Fellow Callers - Does anyone know of a CD that would have full contra length 
tunes that I could use to call from…… Thinking it is time I called a contra for 
my work friends in Greece in May. 
(Alternately know of any contra bands in Greece ?) Thanks in advance - Cheryl

Cheryl Joyalclmjoyal@gmail.comclmjoyal@aol.com630-667-3284 (cell)



__ _
List Name:  Callers mailing list
List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/ callers@lists.sharedweight. net/
  __ _
List Name:  Callers mailing list
List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/ callers@lists.sharedweight. net/



__ _
List Name:  Callers mailing list
List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/ callers@lists.sharedweight. net/
  



__ _
List Name:  Callers mailing list
List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/ callers@lists.sharedweight. net/




___
List Name:  Callers mailing list
List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/
  ___
List Name:  Callers mailing list
List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/

Re: [Callers] How many beats to a rip/snort?

[Tom Hinds via Callers]

I think you're correct about it taking between 4 and 8 beats (more like 6).

If you want someone to ask, I'm pretty sure Jane Ewing of Alabama wrote a dance 
with this move in it.

I don't think that we need to be rigid about the names we use today, but I 
suspect that historically cowboy loop was for four people and rip and snort was 
for 8.  There are callers who have been calling longer than I have and can 
correct me if I'm wrong.

Tom

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 7, 2018, at 1:12 PM, K Panton via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've looked in the usual places and came up with only two examples of a dance 
> with a Rip/Snort (Rip 'n' Snort?) but one is inaccessible online.
> 
> How many beats does it take to dance a rip/snort for two couples? My brain 
> says 4 is too short and 8 is too long. I found one dance that pairs it with a 
> ring balance for a total of 8 beats.
> 
> I haven't access to "Roll Over Johannes" to see how Becky Hill made use of it.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ken Panton
> ___
> List Name:  Callers mailing list
> List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
> Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/

___
List Name:  Callers mailing list
List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/

[Callers] How many beats to a rip/snort?

[K Panton via Callers]

I've looked in the usual places and came up with only two examples of a
dance with a Rip/Snort (Rip 'n' Snort?) but one is inaccessible online.

How many beats does it take to dance a rip/snort for two couples? My brain
says 4 is too short and 8 is too long. I found one dance that pairs it with
a ring balance for a total of 8 beats.

I haven't access to "Roll Over Johannes" to see how Becky Hill made use of
it.

Thanks

Ken Panton
___
List Name:  Callers mailing list
List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/

Re: [Callers] Looking for a CD that would have full length contra tunes for calling

[Cheryl Joyal via Callers]

Ordered this one and a couple others suggested from CDSS store and have been 
inspired by other response to start checking my regular CD collection for 
longer tune sets !

Cheryl Joyal
clmjo...@gmail.com
clmjo...@aol.com
630-667-3284 (cell)




On Apr 7, 2018, at 11:37 AM, Rich Sbardella  wrote:

New England Dance Masters is always a good resource for dance music.  
Here is one of theirs.
http://dancingmasters.com/product/any-jig-or-reel-cd/ 

Rich

On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 1:38 AM, Laur via Callers 
> wrote:
Yes great


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 

On Saturday, April 7, 2018, 1:36 AM, Karen Fontana > wrote:

From the West: KGB (Seattle) "Volga Notions" -- " the music on this album is 
formatted for dancing or calling practice. Three tracks are waltzes, two are 
jig medleys, five are reel medleys, and one is a jig-to-reel medley."
Has the four potatoes.. 

http://www.kgbmole.com/kgb/volga.html 




On Friday, April 6, 2018, 8:44:00 PM PDT, Laur via Callers 
> wrote:


Cheryl, It’s a great CD  DO IT. 

I am also looking for tunes that have some intro beats to use. I did find some 
thanks to friends that had collections. 

Laurie


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad 

On Friday, April 6, 2018, 10:53 PM, Mac Mckeever via Callers 
> wrote:

We have one from 1998 dance weekend  - tracks are 9 to 12 min long.  They are 
strictly old-time bands and a little faster than some are used to

Might not be what you want - but let me know if  you want to try it

'Face the Creek'  $12 includes shipping

Mac McKeever
St Louis


On Friday, April 6, 2018, 7:56:15 PM CDT, Cheryl Joyal via Callers 
> wrote:


Fellow Callers - Does anyone know of a CD that would have full contra length 
tunes that I could use to call from…… Thinking it is time I called a contra for 
my work friends in Greece in May. 

(Alternately know of any contra bands in Greece ?) Thanks in advance - Cheryl


Cheryl Joyal
clmjo...@gmail.com 
clmjo...@aol.com 
 <>630-667-3284  (cell)




___
List Name:  Callers mailing list
List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net 

Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/ 

___
List Name:  Callers mailing list
List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net 

Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/ 

___
List Name:  Callers mailing list
List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net 

Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/ 


___
List Name:  Callers mailing list
List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net 

Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/ 




___
List Name:  Callers mailing list
List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/

Re: [Callers] Looking for a CD that would have full length contra tunes for calling

[Rich Sbardella via Callers]

New England Dance Masters is always a good resource for dance music.
Here is one of theirs.
http://dancingmasters.com/product/any-jig-or-reel-cd/
Rich

On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 1:38 AM, Laur via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Yes great
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
>
> On Saturday, April 7, 2018, 1:36 AM, Karen Fontana <
> karen_font...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From the West: KGB (Seattle) "Volga Notions" -- " the music on this album
> is formatted for dancing or calling practice. Three tracks are waltzes, two
> are jig medleys, five are reel medleys, and one is a jig-to-reel medley."
> Has the four potatoes..
>
> http://www.kgbmole.com/kgb/volga.html
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 6, 2018, 8:44:00 PM PDT, Laur via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>
> Cheryl, It’s a great CD  DO IT.
>
> I am also looking for tunes that have some intro beats to use. I did find
> some thanks to friends that had collections.
>
> Laurie
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad 
>
> On Friday, April 6, 2018, 10:53 PM, Mac Mckeever via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> We have one from 1998 dance weekend  - tracks are 9 to 12 min long.  They
> are strictly old-time bands and a little faster than some are used to
>
> Might not be what you want - but let me know if  you want to try it
>
> 'Face the Creek'  $12 includes shipping
>
> Mac McKeever
> St Louis
>
>
> On Friday, April 6, 2018, 7:56:15 PM CDT, Cheryl Joyal via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>
> Fellow Callers - Does anyone know of a CD that would have full contra
> length tunes that I could use to call from…… Thinking it is time I called
> a contra for my work friends in Greece in May.
>
> (Alternately know of any contra bands in Greece ?) Thanks in advance -
> Cheryl
>
>
> Cheryl Joyal
> clmjo...@gmail.com
> clmjo...@aol.com
> 630-667-3284 (cell)
>
>
>
>
> ___
> List Name:  Callers mailing list
> List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
> Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/
> ___
> List Name:  Callers mailing list
> List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
> Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/
>
> ___
> List Name:  Callers mailing list
> List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
> Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/
>
>
> ___
> List Name:  Callers mailing list
> List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
> Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/
>
>
___
List Name:  Callers mailing list
List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/

Re: [Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

[K Panton via Callers]

Thanks, Yoyo.

I am causing myself serious brain injury mind-dancing this one.

In the end, I agree with you that treating your P as N works in this dance.

There remains another issue of locating error-recovery opportunities (and
possible caller interventions!) which I will look at (and NOT report back)

Ken



Yoyo Zhou via Callers Fri, 06 Apr 2018 15:50:03 -0700

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 2:52 PM, K Panton via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

In The Hobbit, here are the 3 places you come back in. Let's call the top

couple "couple 1", and if someone is waiting out above them, call them

"couple 0".

0. as couple 1 (with nobody out), top of A1

The start of the dance - it's a regular improper dance. Couple 1 should

come in as usual (gents left, ladies right).



1. as couple 1 (with nobody out), B1: pass through to original neighbor

If there's no couple 0, couple 1 goes out in the pull by in A1. We can

figure out that couple 1 should come in as usual (gents left, ladies right).



2. as couple 0, A1: pull by to previous neighbor

This is the couple that just went out at the top. They have to come back in

with gents on the right, ladies on the left! However - this is the key - if

they treat their partner as neighbor at the end (box the gnat, pull by),

they end up in the correct place.



All this is to say that the advice for this dance should be "dance with

your partner as neighbor at the end", because it turns out that works for

all the situations here.
___
List Name:  Callers mailing list
List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/

[Callers] Looking for a CD that would have full length contra tunes for calling

[K Panton via Callers]

Perpetual Emotion - self titled (awesome contra dance tracks but not trad
music. If you want Zen trance dancing, this is the one to get. The phrasing
is not always obvious, though, so new dancers won't get as many clues as
the music of other bands as to the As & Bs. Ed and John made a great
pairing)
https://store.cdbaby.com/cd/PerpetualeMotion   Only $10 to download! Great
deal.

The Old Sod Band - Grass Roots (our very talented house band in Ottawa.
Great trad tunes/arrangements. Still going strong! Calling with them in 2
weeks.) Typically longer tracks of 6-7 minutes
http://www.ottawacontra.ca/oldsodband/

hotpoint String Band - hotpoint Special (different twist on trad)
https://store.cdbaby.com/cd/hotpoint3   $10!

Giant robot Dance - spontaneous animation (though this seems to be live
tracks with the calling muted - longer tracks as a result)
https://store.cdbaby.com/Artist/GiantRobotDance

Brittany Bay - spirit of the dance (best choice for spirited trad tunes
with terrific, varied arrangements) I bought through their website several
years ago. Typically, 3 tunes per medley, 3 times through each tune = 4+1/2
minutes per track, generally.
http://www.betsybyars.com/guy/BrittanyBay/mus.html

KGB - Volga Notions (I'll second this choice but check out their other
albums as well. Not "driving" but great to dance to with a variety of
moods. Many original tunes or original twists on trad tunes)
https://store.cdbaby.com/Search/a2di/0

Elsewhere - find several very danceable tracks on various Lunasa CDs
(totally awesome band. but listen through to make sure they don't slip in
an extra measure/beat here or there in the tunes you select)
e.g. https://www.emusic.com/album/61623544/Lnasa/Lnasasample: Meitheamh
(live recording, driving and danceable right through!)   but there are many
other tunes. A wonderful band ranging from absolutely "driving" to
melodically romantic.

Ken Panton
___
List Name:  Callers mailing list
List Address:  Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Archives:  https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/