RE: [cayugabirds-l] Help with bird song?

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On Jun 8, 2019, 7:18 PM, at 7:18 PM, Magnus Fiskesjo 
 wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I am no expert but if a junco, it should be possible to spot? I've
>stalked quite a few, to try and see if I can notice a difference
>between them and Chipping sparrows. And in my experience at least, both
>species tend to sit at the outer end of a branch when singing, often "2
>o'clock", less often "12 noon" like you saw. I've discovered that
>mobilizing some patience, to scan possible locations around the trees
>in the direction of the sound, especially outer ends of branches midway
>up, one can often find the singing bird at last. It can be maddening
>because they tend to be in "visible yet hard-to-spot" locations and
>I'll often say, how come I did not see if before. I guess to see it one
>has to enter that special yoga trance state of bird watching which is
>hard to achieve. 
>
>My 5 cents! 
>
>If it's a junco it's an unusual voice for it! 
>Magnus Fiskesjö
>n...@cornell.edu
>
>From: bounce-123668894-84019...@list.cornell.edu
>[bounce-123668894-84019...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Ken Haas
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>Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 5:48 PM
>To: Barbara Bauer Sadovnic
>Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L
>Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Help with bird song?
>
>Hi Barbara,
>
>In the newest version (V2) of the Sibley app for iPhone/iPad, under the
>Dark-eyed Junco species account, there are several recordings of songs
>and calls. But there is one, which was recorded by our own Bob Mcguire
>in NY, that sounds the closest to your bird. The second trill on the
>bird in his recording is a bit truncated from your bird's song. So, I
>agree with the others that a Dark-eyed Junco, Slate-colored, is my best
>guess, too.
>
>Ken Haas
>
>
>
>On Jun 8, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Barbara Bauer Sadovnic wrote:
>
>Thank you all for the replies.
>
>Asher, Sandy, Laura, and Meena suggest dark-eyed junco.  Laurie
>suggests bluegrass gnatcatcher, or one of the little flycatchers,willow
>or alder.  My one glimpse could have been a junco, but it really was
>just a glimpse.
>
>The song has been very consistent all three days I heard it - a high
>trill, then a trill about a major third higher.  That’s what it does!
>
>It’s in a smallish grove/hedgerow between two fields, with a larger
>grove acrosss the road.  It sings from a place I can’t spot, except for
>the one time I saw it, when it was singing from the top of a dead tree
>at the side of the road.  Some of the time it was in walnut trees.
>
>On Jun 8, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Sandy Podulka
>mailto:s...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
>
>A bit puzzling. The song trill seems to have two parts?  A lower part
>and then a higher part?  It is not a typical song of any birds around
>here. But, perhaps it is an odd Junco song. Could it be a Dark-eyed
>Junco?  What is the habitat like and where is the bird singing from? 
>Another option might be Chipping Sparrow.
>
>Sandy
>
>At 02:14 PM 6/8/2019, you wrote:
>This bird has been on Tucker Rd. in Enfield since Friday May 31, at
>least.  I only got a brief look at it, on Tuesday - small and backlit -
>grayish, clear pale breast, shortish tail.  But the song is
>distinctive.  It was singing again today, but I couldn’t see it! 
>What is it?
>
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Help with bird song?

[Magnus Fiskesjo]

Hi!

I am no expert but if a junco, it should be possible to spot? I've stalked 
quite a few, to try and see if I can notice a difference between them and 
Chipping sparrows. And in my experience at least, both species tend to sit at 
the outer end of a branch when singing, often "2 o'clock", less often "12 noon" 
like you saw. I've discovered that mobilizing some patience, to scan possible 
locations around the trees in the direction of the sound, especially outer ends 
of branches midway up, one can often find the singing bird at last. It can be 
maddening because they tend to be in "visible yet hard-to-spot" locations and 
I'll often say, how come I did not see if before. I guess to see it one has to 
enter that special yoga trance state of bird watching which is hard to achieve. 

My 5 cents! 

If it's a junco it's an unusual voice for it! 
Magnus Fiskesjö
n...@cornell.edu

From: bounce-123668894-84019...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-123668894-84019...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Ken Haas 
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Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 5:48 PM
To: Barbara Bauer Sadovnic
Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Help with bird song?

Hi Barbara,

In the newest version (V2) of the Sibley app for iPhone/iPad, under the 
Dark-eyed Junco species account, there are several recordings of songs and 
calls. But there is one, which was recorded by our own Bob Mcguire in NY, that 
sounds the closest to your bird. The second trill on the bird in his recording 
is a bit truncated from your bird's song. So, I agree with the others that a 
Dark-eyed Junco, Slate-colored, is my best guess, too.

Ken Haas



On Jun 8, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Barbara Bauer Sadovnic wrote:

Thank you all for the replies.

Asher, Sandy, Laura, and Meena suggest dark-eyed junco.  Laurie suggests 
bluegrass gnatcatcher, or one of the little flycatchers,willow or alder.  My 
one glimpse could have been a junco, but it really was just a glimpse.

The song has been very consistent all three days I heard it - a high trill, 
then a trill about a major third higher.  That’s what it does!

It’s in a smallish grove/hedgerow between two fields, with a larger grove 
acrosss the road.  It sings from a place I can’t spot, except for the one time 
I saw it, when it was singing from the top of a dead tree at the side of the 
road.  Some of the time it was in walnut trees.

On Jun 8, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Sandy Podulka 
mailto:s...@cornell.edu>> wrote:

A bit puzzling. The song trill seems to have two parts?  A lower part and then 
a higher part?  It is not a typical song of any birds around here. But, perhaps 
it is an odd Junco song. Could it be a Dark-eyed Junco?  What is the habitat 
like and where is the bird singing from?  Another option might be Chipping 
Sparrow.

Sandy

At 02:14 PM 6/8/2019, you wrote:
This bird has been on Tucker Rd. in Enfield since Friday May 31, at least.  I 
only got a brief look at it, on Tuesday - small and backlit - grayish, clear 
pale breast, shortish tail.  But the song is distinctive.  It was singing again 
today, but I couldn’t see it!  What is it?

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Help with bird song?

[Ken Haas]

Hi Barbara,

In the newest version (V2) of the Sibley app for iPhone/iPad, under the 
Dark-eyed Junco species account, there are several recordings of songs and 
calls. But there is one, which was recorded by our own Bob Mcguire in NY, that 
sounds the closest to your bird. The second trill on the bird in his recording 
is a bit truncated from your bird's song. So, I agree with the others that a 
Dark-eyed Junco, Slate-colored, is my best guess, too.

Ken Haas



On Jun 8, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Barbara Bauer Sadovnic wrote:

> Thank you all for the replies.
> 
> Asher, Sandy, Laura, and Meena suggest dark-eyed junco.  Laurie suggests 
> bluegrass gnatcatcher, or one of the little flycatchers,willow or alder.  My 
> one glimpse could have been a junco, but it really was just a glimpse.
> 
> The song has been very consistent all three days I heard it - a high trill, 
> then a trill about a major third higher.  That’s what it does!
> 
> It’s in a smallish grove/hedgerow between two fields, with a larger grove 
> acrosss the road.  It sings from a place I can’t spot, except for the one 
> time I saw it, when it was singing from the top of a dead tree at the side of 
> the road.  Some of the time it was in walnut trees.
> 
>> On Jun 8, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Sandy Podulka  wrote:
>> 
>> A bit puzzling. The song trill seems to have two parts?  A lower part and 
>> then a higher part?  It is not a typical song of any birds around here. But, 
>> perhaps it is an odd Junco song. Could it be a Dark-eyed Junco?  What is the 
>> habitat like and where is the bird singing from?  Another option might be 
>> Chipping Sparrow.
>> 
>> Sandy
>> 
>> At 02:14 PM 6/8/2019, you wrote:
>>> This bird has been on Tucker Rd. in Enfield since Friday May 31, at least.  
>>> I only got a brief look at it, on Tuesday - small and backlit - grayish, 
>>> clear pale breast, shortish tail.  But the song is distinctive.  It was 
>>> singing again today, but I couldn’t see it!  What is it?
>>> 
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/f6ejwayrd1x8sva/Tucker%20Rd%20bird%206-4-2019.m4a?dl=0
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Help with bird song?

[Asher Hockett]

Well, even sticking my laptop into my ear I can't hear the second trill.
Heck, I can barely hear the first one. The thing is the pitch of the first
one is right on for D-e Junco, we are surrounded with them up here in the
Hemlock Plantation. I have never heard them issue a later higher trill.

On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 4:49 PM Barbara Bauer Sadovnic 
wrote:

> Thank you all for the replies.
>
> Asher, Sandy, Laura, and Meena suggest dark-eyed junco.  Laurie suggests
> bluegrass gnatcatcher, or one of the little flycatchers,willow or alder.
> My one glimpse could have been a junco, but it really was just a glimpse.
>
> The song has been very consistent all three days I heard it - a high
> trill, then a trill about a major third higher.  That’s what it does!
>
> It’s in a smallish grove/hedgerow between two fields, with a larger grove
> acrosss the road.  It sings from a place I can’t spot, except for the one
> time I saw it, when it was singing from the top of a dead tree at the side
> of the road.  Some of the time it was in walnut trees.
>
> On Jun 8, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Sandy Podulka  wrote:
>
> A bit puzzling. The song trill seems to have two parts?  A lower part and
> then a higher part?  It is not a typical song of any birds around here.
> But, perhaps it is an odd Junco song. Could it be a Dark-eyed Junco?  What
> is the habitat like and where is the bird singing from?  Another option
> might be Chipping Sparrow.
>
> Sandy
>
> At 02:14 PM 6/8/2019, you wrote:
>
> This bird has been on Tucker Rd. in Enfield since Friday May 31, at
> least.  I only got a brief look at it, on Tuesday - small and backlit -
> grayish, clear pale breast, shortish tail.  But the song is distinctive.
> It was singing again today, but I couldn’t see it!  What is it?
>
>
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Help with bird song?

[Barbara Bauer Sadovnic]

Thank you all for the replies.

Asher, Sandy, Laura, and Meena suggest dark-eyed junco.  Laurie suggests 
bluegrass gnatcatcher, or one of the little flycatchers,willow or alder.  My 
one glimpse could have been a junco, but it really was just a glimpse.

The song has been very consistent all three days I heard it - a high trill, 
then a trill about a major third higher.  That’s what it does!

It’s in a smallish grove/hedgerow between two fields, with a larger grove 
acrosss the road.  It sings from a place I can’t spot, except for the one time 
I saw it, when it was singing from the top of a dead tree at the side of the 
road.  Some of the time it was in walnut trees.

> On Jun 8, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Sandy Podulka  wrote:
> 
> A bit puzzling. The song trill seems to have two parts?  A lower part and 
> then a higher part?  It is not a typical song of any birds around here. But, 
> perhaps it is an odd Junco song. Could it be a Dark-eyed Junco?  What is the 
> habitat like and where is the bird singing from?  Another option might be 
> Chipping Sparrow.
> 
> Sandy
> 
> At 02:14 PM 6/8/2019, you wrote:
>> This bird has been on Tucker Rd. in Enfield since Friday May 31, at least.  
>> I only got a brief look at it, on Tuesday - small and backlit - grayish, 
>> clear pale breast, shortish tail.  But the song is distinctive.  It was 
>> singing again today, but I couldn’t see it!  What is it?
>> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/f6ejwayrd1x8sva/Tucker%20Rd%20bird%206-4-2019.m4a?dl=0
>>  
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[Barbara Bauer Sadovnic]

This bird has been on Tucker Rd. in Enfield since Friday May 31, at least.  I 
only got a brief look at it, on Tuesday - small and backlit - grayish, clear 
pale breast, shortish tail.  But the song is distinctive.  It was singing again 
today, but I couldn’t see it!  What is it?

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