Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fish crows/Osprey nest

[Dave Nutter]

My money is on the Ospreys for a couple of reasons. I think it was last year I 
saw a similar thing happen at the Union Fields nest: a couple of Fish Crows 
were poking around the Osprey nest before the Ospreys had settled in. I don’t 
know what the Fish Crows were doing, but they weren’t serious about using it as 
a nest, and the Ospreys took it back and nested. 

Also, this morning (26 March) about 9am as I crossed the boardwalk on the 
Cayuga Waterfront Trail to enter Stewart Park, I saw 2 Ospreys at the nest 
across Fall Creek, one was on the nest itself (presumably the female), while 
the other was atop the attached perch (presumably the male). So to me that nest 
looked claimed by Ospreys at that point. Later in the morning I walked around 
Renwick Wildwood and saw that the same nest at times had 1 Osprey on its perch 
and another in a tree with a clear view of it. It’s true that the last time I 
looked around 12:30pm there was no Osprey at the nest and a Fish Crow on the 
outside edge of the nest instead, so we’ll have to see. 

I did not notice any Ospreys near the nest at the east end of Stewart Park when 
I was in the vicinity around 10:15.

I saw 3 Ospreys flying over Union Field as I biked along the opposite side of 
Cayuga Inlet about 8:45am and none on the Union Field nest. 

- - Dave Nutter

> On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:06 PM, Marie P. Read  wrote:
> 
> A pair of Fish Crows also seems to have taken up residence on the Osprey nest 
> pole at the west side of Stewart Park, next to Fall Creek. It will be 
> interesting to see what happens once the Osprey pair arrives! I did see one 
> Osprey along the creek this morning, but none at the nest sites yet.
> Marie
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fish crows/Osprey nest

[Marie P. Read]

A pair of Fish Crows also seems to have taken up residence on the Osprey nest 
pole at the west side of Stewart Park, next to Fall Creek. It will be 
interesting to see what happens once the Osprey pair arrives! I did see one 
Osprey along the creek this morning, but none at the nest sites yet.
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Re:[cayugabirds-l] fledgling crows

[Donna Lee Scott]

As per Anne’s message that fledgling Amer. Crows are out & about now, today I 
had my first ever “show” of a young A. Crow begging near a parent this morning.
It flapped its wings & made a series of begging calls and chased after a parent.

I scatter mixed bird feed, as well as dried-up used wet cat food & leftover 
cooked egg on the ground & the parents kept feeding the raucous fledge peanuts 
& other goodies!

Fun to watch the crowlet act like a titmouse fledgling!

Donna Scott
Kendal at Ithaca-377
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On Jul 1, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Kevin C Packard  wrote:


 Thank you Anne and Jared for sharing on this question.  I really like your 
suggestion Anne in that these could be juveniles begging. The calls were 
nasally but seemed a bit longer than the short 'uh' or 'uh-uh" fish crow calls 
I'm used to hearing around Cayuga Lake.

 As for the fish comment - well yes on the levity a little  Dead fish appear 
on the shoreline from time to time (big kills sporadically in the spring), but 
I don't know their feeding habits very well, so I assumed that they like being 
near waterbodies as it is place to scavenge dead fish or other creatures.

Cheers,

 Kevin



Kevin C Packard
166 Surge B
Department of Social Statistics, ILR School
Cornell University
Ithaca, NY 14853
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From: anneb.cl...@gmail.com 
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To: Kevin C Packard 
Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fish crow vs American crow ID by merlin

Hi Kevin

I think I see why Merlin was back n forth.

 I think your audio is of a demanding American crow fledgling whose nasal begs 
come close to the slightly down slurred and nasal ‘simple version’ fish crow. 
If you listen toward the end of the recording , you can hear a quickening of 
the notes and a slightly ‘gobbling’ sound. That is the fledgling continuing to 
beg as it is getting fed—beg calls with a parental bill in its mouth and 
swallowing at the same time.

Lots of American Crow fledglings out or just coming out now.

I assume that the comment on fish in the pond was a bit of levity?  Maybe it is 
worth mentioning that Fish Crows don’t ‘fish’ Or particularly seek fish as far 
as I know. But they do seem to like shoreline or river edge scavenging, rather 
than foraging on lawns like American crows. And also, less popular with humans, 
they seem to be good at finding bird nests in trees.

Anyway—that’s my Id of the crow voice on your audio.

Best, Anne


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On Jul 1, 2023, at 7:39 PM, Kevin C Packard  wrote:


Hi everyone,

 I was birding at Jennings Pond in Danby the other day and found a group of 
crows in trees by the pond which the Merlin app was giving as both fish crow 
and American crow.  How reliable do you all feel about distinguishing these two 
species using Merlin? I made some recordings that includes the cawing from what 
Merlin was saying as fish and American crow, but I've thought that here in 
Tompkins County that you will see fish crows primarily by Cayuga Lake. Jennings 
Pond is at 1,250 ft elevation, but it is one of the larger ponds in the county 
and has plenty of fish.  The eBird list (giving only American crow) is at

https://ebird.org/checklist/S143150602

 Thoughts are welcome!


 Kevin



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[cayugabirds-l] Fish Crows

[Donna Lee Scott]

For the first time ever, when I was near the lake shore anyway,
I heard and saw two fish crows flying from south to north, here by Lansing 
Station Rd. !

Also, we again had ~8 Turkey Vultures near #623 (I found a dead partially-eaten 
fox kit by RR track).

Other sp seen: 6 Tree Swallows over lake, 13 Buffleheads, 6 Canada Geese,
4 DE Juncos, 2 Chipping Sparrows, 2 White-throated Sparrows, 4 Cardinals, 4 
Blue Jays, 9 Brown-headed Cowbirds, 15 RE Blackbirds, 2 White-breasted 
Nuthatches,

2 Downy Woodpeckers, 1 Pileated, 1 Hairy & 1 Red-bellied Woodpeckers, 1 Flicker,
1 Carolina Wren, 6 Mourning Doves, 6 C. Grackles, 2 A. Crows, 6 House Sparrows, 
8 Robins, 4 A. Goldfinch,  3 Tufted Titmouse & 3 BC Chickadees.

Have not heard or seen the Brown Thrasher yet today.

Donna Scott
Lansing
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[cayugabirds-l] Fish Crows

[Linda Orkin]

I heard and saw my first Fish Crows this morning at blue grass lane. I don’t 
know enough about them to surmise where they’ve been or if they’ve been here 
and quiet since the summer. Regardless it was another very welcome voice added 
to the morning mix. 

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] American Crows calling after dark

[anneb . clark]

This is pretty weird. If roosting near lights they do talk after dark like a 
slumber party. Like downtown Auburn. But roosts in more natural settings are 
quiet in dark.  I could only locate them with a receiver and  radio tagged 
birds. But they don’t fly in the dark well and I would assume that calling was  
because of something that disturbed them and scared them up from a roost spot. 

Also they aren’t migrating now- at least no evidence but they are moving in 
daylight between foraging areas such as newly turned fields. 

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> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:52 PM, David Nicosia  wrote:
> 
> I had a fire in my burn pit this evening well after sunset in the dark. I 
> thought I heard a crow caw in the distance a few times. Then I was certain as 
> the bird came pretty close to my house overhead. There was other american 
> crows cawing at times too for at least an hour or so between 800 and 900 pm 
> well after dark. They were not mobbing anything as they seemed to be flying 
> by singly. I couldn't ascertain direction but could they be migrating at 
> night? I don't believe I have ever heard a crow at night before. anyone ever 
> experience this?
> 
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[cayugabirds-l] American Crows calling after dark

[David Nicosia]

I had a fire in my burn pit this evening well after sunset in the dark. I
thought I heard a crow caw in the distance a few times. Then I was certain
as the bird came pretty close to my house overhead. There was other
american crows cawing at times too for at least an hour or so between 800
and 900 pm well after dark. They were not mobbing anything as they seemed
to be flying by singly. I couldn't ascertain direction but could they be
migrating at night? I don't believe I have ever heard a crow at night
before. anyone ever experience this?

Dave Nicosia

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[cayugabirds-l] Re: Crows and Cooper’s Hawk

[Geo Kloppel]

I don’t know what would have happened eventually, if they’d been left 
undisturbed, but after 20 minutes of this unexpected tolerance, my apprentice 
arrived on the scene. As we walked slowly down to the workshop, the Crows 
flushed one by one (they know us, and watch for their regular handouts, but 
they don’t allow us to approach). The hawk was the last to leave, flying off 
through the trees, strong and agile.

Through the entire 20 minutes I never heard anything out of the Crows, though 
at one point one of them was visibly making some sort of quiet vocalization 
that did’t penetrate to my living room.

The Crows soon returned, and so have all the other feeder birds.

-Geo

> On Jan 30, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Geo Kloppel  wrote:
> 
> Three Crows, regulars at my feeding station, are resting quietly on their 
> usual perches in an ash tree. They’re about 30 feet up, and the scene looks 
> just like any other winter day, except that an adult Cooper’s Hawk is perched 
> about ten feet below them. Been there for 15 minutes!
> 
> The Crows are not making a fuss, and it almost looks like the Coop is 
> “pretending” to be one of them, using them as cover while waiting for small 
> birds to return to the sunflower hopper just below.
> 
> A fourth Crow has flown in, and one of the others dropped down toward the 
> ground feeding area, as if to grab a morsel, but thought better of it, I 
> guess.
> 
> -Geo
> 
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[cayugabirds-l] Sapsucker; Crows

[Donna Lee Scott]

While I was outside walking, I found a pretty female YELLOW BELLIED SAPSUCKER 
eating cedar tree berries in my woods across from house. It was hanging around 
with a DOWNY WOODPECKER.

All day I have enjoyed watching 5 AMERICAN CROWS feeding under the trees and 
feeders in my yard. 1 or 2 sit up in the trees while the other 3-4 feed on the 
ground, I presume they might be acting as "guards or lookouts".

No Siskins or Redpolls - yet.

Donna Scott

535 Lansing Station Road
Lansing, NY 14882


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[cayugabirds-l] A Crows

[Donna Lee Scott]

Around 100-200 AMERICAN CROWS all spread out on either side of Powers Rd, off 
Lake Rd. Just over county line in south Cayuga County.

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[cayugabirds-l] American Crows

[Donna Lee Scott]

100s flying from north to south along Cayuga Lake east shore just now.

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RE: [cayugabirds-l] migrating crows

[Kevin J. McGowan]

Interesting report. American Crows are migrating right now, with lots of birds 
coming through from Ontario and Quebec. They are daytime migrants. It can be 
difficult to tell them from local roost movements, because migrants will stop 
and forage a while in a field with locals before heading out again.

Oddly, perhaps, crows in eastern North America don't fly south, they fly 
southwest. Some of our Ithaca-raised crows turn up in southwestern Pennsylvania 
and West Virginia, and other that we have banded in Ithaca in winter turn up in 
Montreal and Vermont.

Best,

Kevin


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[mailto:bounce-120971067-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Nutter
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 8:42 PM
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Subject: [cayugabirds-l] migrating crows

Today I saw something I don't recall seeing before. Many times I have seen 
crows commuting - traveling away from a large roost early in the morning or 
returning to the roost area in the afternoon. Today at 11am I saw a flock of 
125 crows flying south high over the east end of Stewart Park. I suspect they 
were migrating. This was not the time of day I that crows typically commute. 
Their flight path was the same that I have seen used by migrating Blue Jays 
earlier in the autumn when they follow the east side of the lake 
south-southeast but then take a more accurate southerly course once they can do 
so over without flying over the lake. They were taking some advantage of the 
north-northwest wind, but when I saw them they were flying at an angle to it.  
These crows were silent, but I assume they were American Crows because they 
appeared similar to each other in size and I doubt we could assemble that many 
Fish Crows here.

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[cayugabirds-l] migrating crows

[Dave Nutter]

Today I saw something I don't recall seeing before. Many times I have seen 
crows commuting - traveling away from a large roost early in the morning or 
returning to the roost area in the afternoon. Today at 11am I saw a flock of 
125 crows flying south high over the east end of Stewart Park. I suspect they 
were migrating. This was not the time of day I that crows typically commute. 
Their flight path was the same that I have seen used by migrating Blue Jays 
earlier in the autumn when they follow the east side of the lake 
south-southeast but then take a more accurate southerly course once they can do 
so over without flying over the lake. They were taking some advantage of the 
north-northwest wind, but when I saw them they were flying at an angle to it.  
These crows were silent, but I assume they were American Crows because they 
appeared similar to each other in size and I doubt we could assemble that many 
Fish Crows here.
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[cayugabirds-l] Fish Crows, Bat, and White-throated Sparrow

[Sandy Wold]

I'm behind in reporting:
Last Thursday, I saw ten Fish Crows flying over Fall Creek toward
Cascadilla gorge.  All were calling; that is how I know.

Sunday, I saw a small bat hunting for insects around 5pm at Ithaca Falls.

Yesterday, I think I had a Chipping Sparrow fly into my garden then up to
my feeder:  white throat, black eyeline, rufous head, two wing bars, grey
above the black eyeline.   House Finches seem to be hanging around more
than in past.

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[cayugabirds-l] Impressive crows

[Meena Madhav Haribal]

There was strong flock of some 8000+ crows which have been gathering on the 
trees along Beebe lake and Mundy, just across my office and swirling around for 
some time and some of them have been taking off further south-south west. Even 
my colleagues came to ask the questions as to what those birds are. When I told 
them they are crows, they were surprised and told me that they have never seen 
such number of crows! Once a flock flew over my office window, immediately my 
colleague took a picture of them with his cell phone.  It was an impressive 
sight!

Now they have thinned out!

Cheers
Meena

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[cayugabirds-l] A. Crows

[Donna Scott]

100s of AMERICAN CROWS on Jerry Smith Rd off NY Rt 34-B, North Lansing, on 
ground in various plowed or recently harvested hay fields. 
Did not see any wing tags. 

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[cayugabirds-l] dead crows

[Kevin J. McGowan]

Based on reports from local observers, I have recovered the carcasses of 10 
dead crows this week: five from Ithaca College grounds and five from the Wood 
St - Titus Towers park area. This is a disturbing number of dead crows.

We lost a lot of crows in the past two summers to West Nile virus (maybe 1/3 of 
our tagged birds), and we have had a small, but significant number of deaths in 
winter roosts from a reovirus over the last few years. Still, 10 dead in one 
week is a big number. I cannot help but worry about a poisoning event.

We are working with the Veterinary Pathology department at the Cornell Vet 
School to necropsy these birds and have them tested for disease.  We would 
appreciate hearing about any and all dead crows in the local area.

Contact me at k...@cornell.edumailto:k...@cornell.edu; 607-254-2452, or Dr. 
Anne Clark (acl...@binghamton.edumailto:acl...@binghamton.edu); 607-222-0905.

Thanks.

Kevin


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[cayugabirds-l] warblers; crows; raptor; musings

[Dave Nutter]

At noon today I saw the YELLOW WARBLER by the southwest corner of the Wegmans parking lot. It flew up from tall thick weeds into some saplings along with a small flock of HOUSE SPARROWS, one of which chased it a bit. On the west side of the Wegmans building in saplings along the bank of the relief channel I saw at least 2 MYRTLE YELLOW-RUMPED WARBLERS, which flew across the channel and out of sight, probably to other trees nearby. There were at least 2 other warbler-sized birds with them which I did not identify. Although I did not see the Audubon's Warbler today, it may still be around, and the Myrtles which I saw well there today were different enough from the bird I saw not-as-well on Thursday to further convince me that Thursday's bird was the Audubon's. As I walked along Brindley Street I heard  saw a pair of FISH CROWS in a tree on the point of land north of the Brindley Street bridge. At 4pm while Laurie  I sat on a park bench along the Cayuga Waterfront Trail just north of the NYS-89 bridge, we saw a fast brown bird fly past us and across the Flood Control Channel, nearly level and aiming at the bushes alongside the Boatyard Grill. It was a hunting MERLIN. I didn't see any House Sparrow movement there as I followed the falcon in my binoculars, but the raptor turned aside, flew south a short distance, then came west across the water again and began rising. It kept climbing and going west until I lost it beyond the tallest treetops of the hill behind us. This prompted several thoughts: (1) Maybe the Merlin is a local bird routinely checking the House Sparrow colonies. (2) I'm glad I'm not a small bird. Every time I see a hunting Accipiter or Falco it takes me a second to realize what's going on, a second in which I'd be nailed. And I've got the easy side view. It's terrifying to think of needing to recognize the threat of such a bird as it came head-on. Of course as a prey item, I probably wouldn't spend time trying to ID it to species... (3) The visual processing which birds do is mind-boggling in order to (a) fly and avoid obstacles or alight on a perch, (b) find their way - at various scales, (c) recognize and interact with members of their own species or flock, (d) find and grab food - aerial plankton and swimming fish being some of the most impressive targets, and (e) recognize and evade threats such as raptors. Often they are doing several of these jobs simultaneously or switching in rapid succession. --Dave Nutter
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[cayugabirds-l] midday crows question

[Nancy Tonachel Gabriel]

Hi all,

The local discussion of crows reminded me of something I'd observed in early 
December while at a rural conference center in Deerfield, MA.  During the last 
hour of the morning session--not that i wasn't totally focused, of course!--the 
background noise grew louder and louder with calls of crows.  Right after lunch 
I walked about 1/3 mile down the road towards an extensive woods divided by a 
power-line right of way.  There were uncountable crows, but behaving as I'd 
never seen during the evening roosting phenomenon we get here in downtown 
Ithaca.  The crows I observed were thinly spread over a great distance--I 
couldn't tell how far along the power-line cut in both directions.  There were 
one or two birds per tree, high in the leafless branches, calling constantly 
and very restless: playing a kind of musical branches as one bird would take 
off, fly not very far, setting off another individual into a short flight, etc.

I stayed a half hour in one spot and the activity and noise did not decrease, 
nor was there a discernible direction or pattern to the movement.  
Fascinating--as crows usually are.

One person suggested it had to do with deer hunting season.  We did hear 
distant shots --but regular, as if on a timer device designed toscare 
crows? But then we got back to our conference business.

Nancy


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[cayugabirds-l] Fish Crows/Siskins/Chippies

[grosb...@clarityconnect.com]

Hello all,

FISH CROWS continue in Cortland, 2 CHIPPING SPARROWS were under my feeders
this morning, and PINE 
SISKINS are nesting at just about every state forest in CNY this year. 
It's the best siskin nesting year in CNY 
since 2004. FWIW: Siskins have nesting at Summerhill and other state lands
like it in 2001, 2004, 2009 and 
2012. 

Also, last Tuesday (sorry for lateness) in the middle of the day, I heard a
BARRED OWL call twice on the 
south side of the pond at Sapsucker Woods (unless someone was imitating
one). 

cheers,
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[cayugabirds-l] Top's Crows tonight

[J. Gary Kohlenberg]

Hi all,
I was in the parking lot by Tops ,downtown at dusk, and had my first 
look at some of the CROWS roosting in the area.  I was unable to estimate the 
size of the flock flying from behind the plaza to Meadow St. it was larger than 
any I have seen since living in Auburn. The swirling flock covered the entire 
plaza area and then some. 
Maybe Kevin has some numbers for Ithaca ? 

Gary 
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[cayugabirds-l] Fish crows??

[Susan Fast]

On my morning walk, I passed a local creek where I found 2 CROWS (presumably
AMERICAN) standing in the middle of it, in 2 of rapidly flowing water,
poised like herons.  It appeared they were waiting for little fishies to
swim by.  Unfortunately, they caught sight of me and flew off before I could
see an alleged strike.  Crows are amazing.

 

Steve Fast 

Brooktondale


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[cayugabirds-l] dead crows

[Dave Nutter]

 A couple days ago I saw a dead crow under some pines beside Pleasant Grove 
Road.  
I don't know whether it got hit by a car, or fell from a tree. or what.  I 
called Kevin McGowan 
and hope he had time to collect it because I didn't.  I'm curious why it died, 
and wonder if 
yours was similar.  
--Dave Nutter

On Friday, December 18, 2009, at 04:05PM, Meena Haribal m...@cornell.edu 
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