Re: [ccp4bb] Protein aggregation and crystallization

2011-08-28 Thread Allan Pang

Hi Anita,

Won't harm if you put it on crystallization tray. You never know what  
these proteins might do.


Allan

Quoting Zheng Zhou zhengzho...@gmail.com:


Hi, Anita

If you could find a way to test the elute's activity/binding to its'
substrat/cofactor, then you will learn much more about your target. If the
function assay is elusive, you could try superose column (5KDa-5MKDa). Does
your light scattering tell you about the estimated size and MW?

Best,

Joe

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 1:29 AM, anita p crystals...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Yury,
I have done dynamic light scattering and it shows its polydispersed.
Please let me know if it is still ok for setting trays.
reg.
anita

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Yuriy Patskovsky 
yuriy.patskov...@einstein.yu.edu wrote:


 Anita,
an assembly may be quite large - I would check it somehow, maybe by light
scattering or centrifugation

Good luck

Yury
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*Sent:* Friday, August 26, 2011 3:03 AM
*To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
*Subject:* [ccp4bb] Protein aggregation and crystallization

 Hi All,
 I am working on a protein which has a membrane spanning region and as
cytosolic domain.I have  made various deletion constructs of the   
protein, so
that I can have a crystallizable fragment.  There is no homologues  
 mentioned

in the pdb for this protein.
All of these constructs are purified successfully but when concentrated
and loaded on a gel filtration column Superdex-200, they elute in the void
volume.  But the proteins donot precipitate out !!
Is it worth while to go ahead for crystallization trials??
Any other suggestion is most welcome.
Thanks
Anita










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[ccp4bb] Protein elution in Size Exclusion

2011-08-28 Thread Allan Pang

Hi there everyone,

What does it mean when you have proteins eluting in almost the whole  
column volume of S200?


I ran a gel with fractions from 8ml to 20ml and saw band for my  
protein all throughout.


Judging peaks on chromatogram is not useful as it doesn't have any  
aromatic rings.


Cheers,

Allan

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[ccp4bb] Hiro Tsuruta

2011-08-28 Thread Tsutomu Matsui
It is with great sadness that we announce that Dr. Hirotsugu (Hiro) 
Tsuruta, a senior scientist and biophysicist in the Structural Molecular 
Biology program at Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Lightsource (SSRL) at 
SLAC, passed away on August 25, 2011, in Japan, after a courageous fight 
with cancer.  Funeral services took place in Sasebo, Japan, on August 27.


Hiro worked at SSRL for more than 20 years, and with great dedication 
and scientific insight provided leadership for the build-up of the SSRL 
biological small angle x-ray scattering research program, and a bioSAXS 
beam line facility that today serves a large user community.  He also 
served the international community in many ways.  His contributions were 
numerous, and he leaves an international legacy in this growing area of 
science, for which he pursued new developments until the end.


SSRL will organize an event to honor his contributions, and information 
will follow when plans become available.


Britt Hedman and Keith Hodgson


Re: [ccp4bb] Protein elution in Size Exclusion

2011-08-28 Thread Roger Rowlett
It possibly means:

1. Your sample application volume was too large
2. Total protein quantity was too large
3. Fraction size was too large
4. Sample was too crude (GEC is a finishing step, not a starting step for
protein purification.
5. Sample was too concentrated/viscous
6. Flow rate was too fast
7. Ionic strength of buffer too low to suppress ion exchange effects.

Roger Rowlett
On Aug 28, 2011 5:25 AM, Allan Pang a.p...@qmul.ac.uk wrote:
 Hi there everyone,

 What does it mean when you have proteins eluting in almost the whole
 column volume of S200?

 I ran a gel with fractions from 8ml to 20ml and saw band for my
 protein all throughout.

 Judging peaks on chromatogram is not useful as it doesn't have any
 aromatic rings.

 Cheers,

 Allan

 --
 Allan Pang

 PhD Student

 G35 Joseph Priestley Building
 Queen Mary University of London
 London
 E1 4NS

 Phone number: 02078828480


Re: [ccp4bb] Protein elution in Size Exclusion

2011-08-28 Thread David Briggs
Following on from Roger's fine suggestions:

8. Your column is knackered. Can you see fine lines or cracks in the
column? Good packing is v.important for SEC columns.

HTH,

Dave



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On 28 August 2011 10:25, Allan Pang a.p...@qmul.ac.uk wrote:
 Hi there everyone,

 What does it mean when you have proteins eluting in almost the whole column
 volume of S200?

 I ran a gel with fractions from 8ml to 20ml and saw band for my protein all
 throughout.

 Judging peaks on chromatogram is not useful as it doesn't have any aromatic
 rings.

 Cheers,

 Allan

 --
 Allan Pang

 PhD Student

 G35 Joseph Priestley Building
 Queen Mary University of London
 London
 E1 4NS

 Phone number: 02078828480



Re: [ccp4bb] Protein elution in Size Exclusion

2011-08-28 Thread Nian Huang
Hi, David,
What is the common cause of knackered SEC column? Will equilibrizing a
buffer containing 150 mM NaCl directly into a 20% EtOH or vise versa cause
the problem. There was no problem just after packing the column.

Nian

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 9:24 AM, David Briggs drdavidcbri...@gmail.comwrote:

 Following on from Roger's fine suggestions:

 8. Your column is knackered. Can you see fine lines or cracks in the
 column? Good packing is v.important for SEC columns.

 HTH,

 Dave


 
 David C. Briggs PhD
 Father, Structural Biologist and Sceptic
 
 University of Manchester E-mail:
 david.c.bri...@manchester.ac.uk
 
 http://manchester.academia.edu/DavidBriggs (v.sensible)
 http://xtaldave.wordpress.com/ (sensible)
 http://xtaldave.posterous.com/ (less sensible)
 Twitter: @xtaldave
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 On 28 August 2011 10:25, Allan Pang a.p...@qmul.ac.uk wrote:
  Hi there everyone,
 
  What does it mean when you have proteins eluting in almost the whole
 column
  volume of S200?
 
  I ran a gel with fractions from 8ml to 20ml and saw band for my protein
 all
  throughout.
 
  Judging peaks on chromatogram is not useful as it doesn't have any
 aromatic
  rings.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Allan
 
  --
  Allan Pang
 
  PhD Student
 
  G35 Joseph Priestley Building
  Queen Mary University of London
  London
  E1 4NS
 
  Phone number: 02078828480
 



Re: [ccp4bb] Protein elution in Size Exclusion

2011-08-28 Thread David Briggs
Hi Nian,

It can be a number of things - but typically, air getting into the
column, or a leaky seal somewhere letting it dry out.

Switching from 150mM NaCl to 20% EtOH directly shouldn't cause a problem.

The reason I suggest it is that I have had the same situation as
described in the original post (protein comes off across entire volume
of SEC column elution) and it turned out the column had a leak and had
dried out in places.

Repacking the column solved the problem.

Cheers,

Dave

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Father, Structural Biologist and Sceptic

University of Manchester E-mail:
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On 28 August 2011 22:35, Nian Huang huangn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, David,
 What is the common cause of knackered SEC column? Will equilibrizing a
 buffer containing 150 mM NaCl directly into a 20% EtOH or vise versa cause
 the problem. There was no problem just after packing the column.

 Nian

 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 9:24 AM, David Briggs drdavidcbri...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Following on from Roger's fine suggestions:

 8. Your column is knackered. Can you see fine lines or cracks in the
 column? Good packing is v.important for SEC columns.

 HTH,

 Dave


 
 David C. Briggs PhD
 Father, Structural Biologist and Sceptic
 
 University of Manchester E-mail:
 david.c.bri...@manchester.ac.uk
 
 http://manchester.academia.edu/DavidBriggs (v.sensible)
 http://xtaldave.wordpress.com/ (sensible)
 http://xtaldave.posterous.com/ (less sensible)
 Twitter: @xtaldave
 Skype: DocDCB
 



 On 28 August 2011 10:25, Allan Pang a.p...@qmul.ac.uk wrote:
  Hi there everyone,
 
  What does it mean when you have proteins eluting in almost the whole
  column
  volume of S200?
 
  I ran a gel with fractions from 8ml to 20ml and saw band for my protein
  all
  throughout.
 
  Judging peaks on chromatogram is not useful as it doesn't have any
  aromatic
  rings.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Allan
 
  --
  Allan Pang
 
  PhD Student
 
  G35 Joseph Priestley Building
  Queen Mary University of London
  London
  E1 4NS
 
  Phone number: 02078828480
 




Re: [ccp4bb] Protein elution in Size Exclusion

2011-08-28 Thread Filip Van Petegem
worst-case scenario for crystallization purposes:

9. Your protein runs as a mixture of monomers, dimers, trimers,
whatever-mers...

Filip

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 7:24 AM, David Briggs drdavidcbri...@gmail.comwrote:

 Following on from Roger's fine suggestions:

 8. Your column is knackered. Can you see fine lines or cracks in the
 column? Good packing is v.important for SEC columns.

 HTH,

 Dave


 
 David C. Briggs PhD
 Father, Structural Biologist and Sceptic
 
 University of Manchester E-mail:
 david.c.bri...@manchester.ac.uk
 
 http://manchester.academia.edu/DavidBriggs (v.sensible)
 http://xtaldave.wordpress.com/ (sensible)
 http://xtaldave.posterous.com/ (less sensible)
 Twitter: @xtaldave
 Skype: DocDCB
 



 On 28 August 2011 10:25, Allan Pang a.p...@qmul.ac.uk wrote:
  Hi there everyone,
 
  What does it mean when you have proteins eluting in almost the whole
 column
  volume of S200?
 
  I ran a gel with fractions from 8ml to 20ml and saw band for my protein
 all
  throughout.
 
  Judging peaks on chromatogram is not useful as it doesn't have any
 aromatic
  rings.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Allan
 
  --
  Allan Pang
 
  PhD Student
 
  G35 Joseph Priestley Building
  Queen Mary University of London
  London
  E1 4NS
 
  Phone number: 02078828480
 




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[ccp4bb] phaser problem

2011-08-28 Thread Amir Khan
Hi

Has anyone a solution to the following problem with Phaser (version 2.1.4)?

UNHANDLED ERROR: basic_string::_S_create

It seems to be data and model independent – there was an old thread from 
earlier this year, but I cannot find a follow-up.

Thanks!

Amir




Re: [ccp4bb] Protein elution in Size Exclusion

2011-08-28 Thread Mario Sanches
Testing for cracks in the column is quite easy. Take whichever standard you
happen to have (lisozyme, GST, etc) and do a run. If it comes out in a
single peak the problem is with your prep. If it comes out throughout the
run the problem is with your column.

Mario Sanches

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Nian Huang huangn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, David,
 What is the common cause of knackered SEC column? Will equilibrizing a
 buffer containing 150 mM NaCl directly into a 20% EtOH or vise versa cause
 the problem. There was no problem just after packing the column.

 Nian


 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 9:24 AM, David Briggs drdavidcbri...@gmail.comwrote:

 Following on from Roger's fine suggestions:

 8. Your column is knackered. Can you see fine lines or cracks in the
 column? Good packing is v.important for SEC columns.

 HTH,

 Dave


 
 David C. Briggs PhD
 Father, Structural Biologist and Sceptic
 
 University of Manchester E-mail:
 david.c.bri...@manchester.ac.uk
 
 http://manchester.academia.edu/DavidBriggs (v.sensible)
 http://xtaldave.wordpress.com/ (sensible)
 http://xtaldave.posterous.com/ (less sensible)
 Twitter: @xtaldave
 Skype: DocDCB
 



 On 28 August 2011 10:25, Allan Pang a.p...@qmul.ac.uk wrote:
  Hi there everyone,
 
  What does it mean when you have proteins eluting in almost the whole
 column
  volume of S200?
 
  I ran a gel with fractions from 8ml to 20ml and saw band for my protein
 all
  throughout.
 
  Judging peaks on chromatogram is not useful as it doesn't have any
 aromatic
  rings.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Allan
 
  --
  Allan Pang
 
  PhD Student
 
  G35 Joseph Priestley Building
  Queen Mary University of London
  London
  E1 4NS
 
  Phone number: 02078828480
 





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[ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-28 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers,

are there any additional problems or known issues running ccp4 or
other xtal software on windows 7 (beyond those of Vista, etc.?) Your
input would be really appreciate before I sink my own personal $$$
into a new laptop

Jacob Keller



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