[ccp4bb] Phaser question

2013-12-05 Thread vellieux

Hiyya all,

I have a question about the latest Phaser output, concerning TFZ = and 
TFZ == .


I do not know how to interpret outputs of the type

TFZ = 5.2 TFZ == 54.1;
TFZ = 5.8 TFZ == 63.0;
TFZ = 6.4 TFZ == 19.7 (these are real TFZ figures coming from Phaser log 
files).


I used to analyse the Phaser output using TFZ, when only a single number 
was given. Now with two figures to consider, I do not know what to think 
of it any more.


Any ideas out there ?

And best wishes for an enjoyable end-of-the-year season (be it in the 
cold or in the sun depending on which side of the planet you sit).


Fred.

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Re: [ccp4bb] Phaser question

2013-12-05 Thread Randy Read
Hi Fred,

Send me the logfiles (off-line), because this shouldn't be happening and I'd 
like to have a look.  That said, we've been seeing some similar problems in 
certain circumstances, i.e. B-factor refinement refines to significant negative 
B-factor values, and data at high resolution have very low signal-to-noise.  If 
those are the circumstances, we're currently working on a fix and maybe we can 
get you to test it on your data once it's implemented.

All the best,

Randy

On 5 Dec 2013, at 08:36, vellieux frederic.velli...@ibs.fr wrote:

 Hiyya all,
 
 I have a question about the latest Phaser output, concerning TFZ = and TFZ == 
 .
 
 I do not know how to interpret outputs of the type
 
 TFZ = 5.2 TFZ == 54.1;
 TFZ = 5.8 TFZ == 63.0;
 TFZ = 6.4 TFZ == 19.7 (these are real TFZ figures coming from Phaser log 
 files).
 
 I used to analyse the Phaser output using TFZ, when only a single number was 
 given. Now with two figures to consider, I do not know what to think of it 
 any more.
 
 Any ideas out there ?
 
 And best wishes for an enjoyable end-of-the-year season (be it in the cold or 
 in the sun depending on which side of the planet you sit).
 
 Fred.
 
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 Campus EPN
 6 rue Jules Horowitz
 F-38042 Grenoble
 Tel: +33 457428605
 (Fax: +33 438785494)

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[ccp4bb] rotation peak number in new version phaser

2013-12-05 Thread LISA
hi all,

I try to solve the crystal structures of a mult-domain protein with phaser.
I cannot solve the structure by automatic search using domain structure as
the models. I tried to do the rotation search using the fast or brute
rotation function. I defined the rotation search peaks number is 1000. But
I only get no more than 100 peaks. I tried the phaser in ccp4-6.3.0 and
ccp4-6.4.0. But I can only get much less peaks than I required in the
rotation. But the old version phaser can give about 1000 peaks if I use
brute rotation function ask for 1000 peaks. How can I more rotation peaks
in the new version phaser
?
 Thank you.

Lisa


Re: [ccp4bb] small crystals

2013-12-05 Thread Morten Sommer
Dear Careina –

Orthogonal crystallization methods can be of great utility when optimizing 
crystallization conditions, since they offer a different sampling of the 
crystallization space. Orthogonal methods include: liquid-liquid diffusion, 
microbatch and dialysis.

Liquid-liquid diffusion is known to be a productive crystallization method and 
a recent paper from the Sundberg lab demonstrated that crystallization by 
liquid-liquid diffusion could improve both the size and diffraction quality of 
crystals of an endo-b-N-acetylglucosaminidase, EndoS, from Streptococcus 
pyogenes. The paper can be found here: 
http://scripts.iucr.org/cgi-bin/paper?nj5178

Description of the crystallization device can be found here: 
http://scripts.iucr.org/cgi-bin/paper?S1744309111024456 and 
http://www.microlytic.com/crystal-former

Using microseed matrix screening could also improve your crystal quality. You 
can find information on the approach here: 
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/cg2001442?journalCode=cgdefu

Best regards, Morten


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Hi all

Any advice on how to get bigger crystals from conditions that give showers of 
tiny crystals? I am getting small pretty looking individual crystals but they 
are too small and they don't seem to grow. In fact, in some instances if left 
for a couple of days they actually dissolve. I have fiddled around with mother 
liquor volume, protein concentration as well as drop volume (I am using hanging 
drop method) but none seem to make any difference and I always get the same 
tiny crystals. I think I might try microseeding but I haven't tried that yet.

Any suggestions or tricks would be welcome
Careina.

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Re: [ccp4bb] small crystals

2013-12-05 Thread mesters

  
  
Hi,

can you give a bit more information...

Can you concentrate the protein easily to a higher concentration,
let's say 2-3 times from what you have now, without precipitation?

What is the buffer of your protein stock solution at the moment?

At what temperature and what precipitant are you using?

- Jeroen -


showers of crystals

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  Subject:[SURESPAM] [ccp4bb] small crystals
  From:Careina Edgooms careinaedgo...@yahoo.com
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Hi all



  Any advice on how to get bigger crystals from
  conditions that give showers of tiny crystals? I am
  getting small pretty looking individual crystals but
  they are too small and they don't seem to grow. In
  fact, in some instances if left for a couple of days
  they actually dissolve. I have fiddled around with
  mother liquor volume, protein concentration as well as
  drop volume (I am using hanging drop method) but none
  seem to make any difference and I always get the same
  tiny crystals. I think I might try microseeding but I
  haven't tried that yet. 

  


  Any suggestions or tricks would be welcome 

  Careina.
  

  

  
  
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[ccp4bb] PhD opportunity

2013-12-05 Thread Laura Spagnolo
Dear colleagues,

I am currently looking for up to two PhD students to work on proteins involved 
in double strand DNA repair.

Details on the projects can be found here: 
http://www.findaphd.com/search/ProjectDetails.aspx?PJID=48449
http://www.findaphd.com/search/ProjectDetails.aspx?PJID=48456LID=456

The Eastbio project is open to candidates that meet the residency criteria, the 
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Re: [ccp4bb] small crystals

2013-12-05 Thread Mahesh Lingaraju
Hi All


On similar lines, I have been trying to optimize crystallization conditions
for my protein. Initially, I had showers of needles in a PEG screen which
did not really improve after screening around the condition. So, I seeded
these needles into all the screens that I have available and I have plate
like crystals which do not diffract at home in MPD (~15%), 0.1 M sodium
acetate, 0.2 Mgcl2/cacl2 at 294 K. I tried incubating at 287 K, but that
did not yield any useful results.The protein itself is in 50mM MOPS, 10%
glycerol pH 7.5. I could try to take of glycerol but i cannot concentrate
the protein more than ~ 5mg/ml which clearly was not sufficient to achieve
crystallization.

Any advice is deeply appreciated.

Thank you

cheers
Mahesh


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:03 AM, mesters mest...@biochem.uni-luebeck.dewrote:

  Hi,

 can you give a bit more information...

 Can you concentrate the protein easily to a higher concentration, let's
 say 2-3 times from what you have now, without precipitation?

 What is the buffer of your protein stock solution at the moment?

 At what temperature and what precipitant are you using?

 - Jeroen -


 showers of crystals


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   Subject:[SURESPAM] [ccp4bb] small crystals
 From:Careina Edgooms careinaedgo...@yahoo.com
 To:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Cc:


  Hi all

  Any advice on how to get bigger crystals from conditions that give
 showers of tiny crystals? I am getting small pretty looking individual
 crystals but they are too small and they don't seem to grow. In fact, in
 some instances if left for a couple of days they actually dissolve. I have
 fiddled around with mother liquor volume, protein concentration as well as
 drop volume (I am using hanging drop method) but none seem to make any
 difference and I always get the same tiny crystals. I think I might try
 microseeding but I haven't tried that yet.

  Any suggestions or tricks would be welcome
  Careina.


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Re: [ccp4bb] small crystals

2013-12-05 Thread Bert Van-Den-Berg
depending on how extensively you have screened so far, the most efficient thing 
to do may be to change the protein: different orthologs, truncations, 
mutagenesis of entropy rich clusters, change of tag location or tag cleavage 
etc.


From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Mahesh Lingaraju 
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Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 5:38 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] small crystals

Hi All


On similar lines, I have been trying to optimize crystallization conditions for 
my protein. Initially, I had showers of needles in a PEG screen which did not 
really improve after screening around the condition. So, I seeded these needles 
into all the screens that I have available and I have plate like crystals which 
do not diffract at home in MPD (~15%), 0.1 M sodium acetate, 0.2 Mgcl2/cacl2 at 
294 K. I tried incubating at 287 K, but that did not yield any useful 
results.The protein itself is in 50mM MOPS, 10% glycerol pH 7.5. I could try to 
take of glycerol but i cannot concentrate the protein more than ~ 5mg/ml which 
clearly was not sufficient to achieve crystallization.

Any advice is deeply appreciated.

Thank you

cheers
Mahesh


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:03 AM, mesters 
mest...@biochem.uni-luebeck.demailto:mest...@biochem.uni-luebeck.de wrote:
Hi,

can you give a bit more information...

Can you concentrate the protein easily to a higher concentration, let's say 2-3 
times from what you have now, without precipitation?

What is the buffer of your protein stock solution at the moment?

At what temperature and what precipitant are you using?

- Jeroen -


showers of crystals


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Subject:[SURESPAM] [ccp4bb] small crystals
From:Careina Edgooms careinaedgo...@yahoo.commailto:careinaedgo...@yahoo.com
To:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UKmailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Cc:


Hi all

Any advice on how to get bigger crystals from conditions that give showers of 
tiny crystals? I am getting small pretty looking individual crystals but they 
are too small and they don't seem to grow. In fact, in some instances if left 
for a couple of days they actually dissolve. I have fiddled around with mother 
liquor volume, protein concentration as well as drop volume (I am using hanging 
drop method) but none seem to make any difference and I always get the same 
tiny crystals. I think I might try microseeding but I haven't tried that yet.

Any suggestions or tricks would be welcome
Careina.

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Re: [ccp4bb] small crystals

2013-12-05 Thread mesters

Hi,

sorry, it should read salt in not inverse salt in ...

- J. -


Am 05.12.13 19:55, schrieb mesters:

Hi,

Showers of crystals often occur if the protein is not that 
soluble/happy/stable in the solute. The solubility of a protein 
depends on its concentration, its pI, pH of solute, temperature, 
compounds in the solute (e.g. salts and small organic molecules), 
construct used, to name a few. So, to increase the solubility, you 
need to change one these parameters. Salts in general are said to 
inverse salt in the protein thus making it more soluble. Hofmeister 
published an interesting paper on this in 1888! NaCl for example is 
placed in the middle of the Hofmeister series, neutral so to speak, 
and practice shows it is often a good choice to start with at a 
concentration of 150-200 mM. However, occasionally it is not a good 
choice and will have negative effects.


The choice of salt basically depends on the pI of the protein and the 
pH of the solute/crystallization condition. Have a serious look at the 
chapter by Madeleine Riess-Kautt about the Hofmeister series in A. 
Ducruix und R. Giegé book with title Crystallization of Nucleic Acids 
 Proteins. A practical Approach (Oxford IRL-University Press (1992)).



For a normal hen egg white protein (pI/IEP below the pH, protein 
overal negatively charged) he was working on, ammoniumsulfate will 
precipitate (stabilize/crystallize) the protein while a perchlorate 
salt (destabilize) will dissolve the protein completely at high 
concentrations. As you generally need high protein concentrations for 
starters in crystal growth, you thus need to add a salt that 
dissolves the protein slightly without denaturing it (low 
concentration 50 -200 mM in the solute). Then, you can add a second 
salt (on the opposite site of the series) or precipitant like PEG to 
crystallize it. However, for several proteins the pI is located above 
the pH of the solute. In these cases the protein is positively charged 
and the Hofmeister series turns around! We recently had a case like 
this producing lost of tiny plate-like crystals. Changing the protein 
concentration or the precipitant concentration, or hanging to sitting 
etc. did not help at all. We finally found out we had to add some 
ammoniumsulfate to solubilize/dissolve the protein first and got 
very nice single and large crystals in the end.


In your case, try to replace the glycerol by the proper choice of 
salt! You can also try to exchange MOPS (zwitterion) for another 
buffer compound. All this will also change the crystallizaiton 
behaviour. You will most probably need to redo the screening...


- J. -




[ccp4bb] positions available

2013-12-05 Thread Margaret Bills

Post Doctoral Positions available in Australia

*Postdoctoral Research Fellows *

**

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*The role:* Prof. Jamie Rossjohn, NHMRC Australia Fellow, is seeking 
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[ccp4bb] Protein-DNA modelling

2013-12-05 Thread Careina Edgooms
Can anyone recommend  a good modelling program to use to model protein-DNA 
interactions. I have tried Haddock. Any suggestions?

Best Careina