Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of CCP4 under Windows 7
Two weeks ago we announced new experimental windows installer (only the installer itself was new, but the content -- files that are installed -- has not changes). The next revision of this installer fixes a few problems with environmental variables and includes updates that are available from our ftp site. There is no real reason to download it if you have ver. 6.2.0 already installed, but for new installations it may work better. You are welcome to try it. ftp://ftp.ccp4.ac.uk/mww/CCP4-6.2.2.msi Marcin -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Marcin Wojdyr Sent: 11 November 2011 18:42 To: ccp4bb Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of CCP4 under Windows 7 I've uploaded a new installer here: ftp://ftp.ccp4.ac.uk/mww/CCP4-6.2.1.msi The content is the same, the version was changed only for technical reason, there is no point in upgrading if someone has version 6.2.0 already installed. When upgrading from older version, please uninstall old version first and if there are any CCP4 environmental variables left, please delete them manually. The next release will handle upgrades automatically, but we need to do more tests. Marcin -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Marcin Wojdyr Sent: 08 November 2011 14:45 To: ccp4bb Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of CCP4 under Windows 7 Hi, Thanks for listing all the problems. We are testing a new installer for Windows now. It's written from scratch (we switched from InstallShield to WiX) and if we don't find any issues with it we'll put it on ftp tomorrow. ActiveTcl should not be necessary with this and future versions. In September we updated our build of Tcl and friends and it seems to work well with ccp4i and imosflm. We'll remove the recommendation of ActiveTcl from the website soon. Cheers Marcin -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Robert Oeffner Sent: 08 November 2011 12:27 To: ccp4bb Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of CCP4 under Windows 7 Hi, I have encountered this problem with CCP4 6.2.0 as well as for the past few years. Whenever I run the CCP4 installer for all users on my Windows Vista PC as administrator it only creates desktop icons and startup menu item for the administrator account, not for other users. It appears that the CCP4 desktop icon shortcut is put in C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop and the start menu CCP4 folder is put in C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\CCP4-Packages-6.2.0. Both of these paths are incorrect as they are invisible when logging in as another user. I'm not sure where the CCP4 desktop icon shortcut should go but placing the startup folder in C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs makes it accessible to other users. On a separate note, it also appears that there is a bug in the ActiveTCL installer which is recommended to be installed on Vista platforms. It only makes file associations with tcl files for the user who installed this program. Consequently when double clicking the CCP4 icon as a different user than administrator windows prompts the user asking what program the file should be opened with. Again this can be overcome by making the wish.exe program from the ActiveTcl folder the default program to use. Regards, Robert Oeffner, Ph.D. Research Associate, Read group Department of Haematology, University of Cambridge Cambridge Institute of Medical Research Wellcome Trust / MRC Building, Hills Road, Cambridge, CB2 0XY www-structmed.cimr.cam.ac.uk, tel:01223763234
Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of CCP4 under Windows 7
I've uploaded a new installer here: ftp://ftp.ccp4.ac.uk/mww/CCP4-6.2.1.msi The content is the same, the version was changed only for technical reason, there is no point in upgrading if someone has version 6.2.0 already installed. When upgrading from older version, please uninstall old version first and if there are any CCP4 environmental variables left, please delete them manually. The next release will handle upgrades automatically, but we need to do more tests. Marcin -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Marcin Wojdyr Sent: 08 November 2011 14:45 To: ccp4bb Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of CCP4 under Windows 7 Hi, Thanks for listing all the problems. We are testing a new installer for Windows now. It's written from scratch (we switched from InstallShield to WiX) and if we don't find any issues with it we'll put it on ftp tomorrow. ActiveTcl should not be necessary with this and future versions. In September we updated our build of Tcl and friends and it seems to work well with ccp4i and imosflm. We'll remove the recommendation of ActiveTcl from the website soon. Cheers Marcin -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Robert Oeffner Sent: 08 November 2011 12:27 To: ccp4bb Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of CCP4 under Windows 7 Hi, I have encountered this problem with CCP4 6.2.0 as well as for the past few years. Whenever I run the CCP4 installer for all users on my Windows Vista PC as administrator it only creates desktop icons and startup menu item for the administrator account, not for other users. It appears that the CCP4 desktop icon shortcut is put in C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop and the start menu CCP4 folder is put in C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\CCP4-Packages-6.2.0. Both of these paths are incorrect as they are invisible when logging in as another user. I'm not sure where the CCP4 desktop icon shortcut should go but placing the startup folder in C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs makes it accessible to other users. On a separate note, it also appears that there is a bug in the ActiveTCL installer which is recommended to be installed on Vista platforms. It only makes file associations with tcl files for the user who installed this program. Consequently when double clicking the CCP4 icon as a different user than administrator windows prompts the user asking what program the file should be opened with. Again this can be overcome by making the wish.exe program from the ActiveTcl folder the default program to use. Regards, Robert Oeffner, Ph.D. Research Associate, Read group Department of Haematology, University of Cambridge Cambridge Institute of Medical Research Wellcome Trust / MRC Building, Hills Road, Cambridge, CB2 0XY www-structmed.cimr.cam.ac.uk, tel:01223763234
Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of CCP4 under Windows 7
Hi, I have encountered this problem with CCP4 6.2.0 as well as for the past few years. Whenever I run the CCP4 installer for all users on my Windows Vista PC as administrator it only creates desktop icons and startup menu item for the administrator account, not for other users. It appears that the CCP4 desktop icon shortcut is put in C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop and the start menu CCP4 folder is put in C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\CCP4-Packages-6.2.0. Both of these paths are incorrect as they are invisible when logging in as another user. I'm not sure where the CCP4 desktop icon shortcut should go but placing the startup folder in C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs makes it accessible to other users. On a separate note, it also appears that there is a bug in the ActiveTCL installer which is recommended to be installed on Vista platforms. It only makes file associations with tcl files for the user who installed this program. Consequently when double clicking the CCP4 icon as a different user than administrator windows prompts the user asking what program the file should be opened with. Again this can be overcome by making the wish.exe program from the ActiveTcl folder the default program to use. Regards, Robert Oeffner, Ph.D. Research Associate, Read group Department of Haematology, University of Cambridge Cambridge Institute of Medical Research Wellcome Trust / MRC Building, Hills Road, Cambridge, CB2 0XY www-structmed.cimr.cam.ac.uk, tel:01223763234
Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of CCP4 under Windows 7
Hi, Thanks for listing all the problems. We are testing a new installer for Windows now. It's written from scratch (we switched from InstallShield to WiX) and if we don't find any issues with it we'll put it on ftp tomorrow. ActiveTcl should not be necessary with this and future versions. In September we updated our build of Tcl and friends and it seems to work well with ccp4i and imosflm. We'll remove the recommendation of ActiveTcl from the website soon. Cheers Marcin -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Robert Oeffner Sent: 08 November 2011 12:27 To: ccp4bb Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of CCP4 under Windows 7 Hi, I have encountered this problem with CCP4 6.2.0 as well as for the past few years. Whenever I run the CCP4 installer for all users on my Windows Vista PC as administrator it only creates desktop icons and startup menu item for the administrator account, not for other users. It appears that the CCP4 desktop icon shortcut is put in C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop and the start menu CCP4 folder is put in C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\CCP4-Packages-6.2.0. Both of these paths are incorrect as they are invisible when logging in as another user. I'm not sure where the CCP4 desktop icon shortcut should go but placing the startup folder in C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs makes it accessible to other users. On a separate note, it also appears that there is a bug in the ActiveTCL installer which is recommended to be installed on Vista platforms. It only makes file associations with tcl files for the user who installed this program. Consequently when double clicking the CCP4 icon as a different user than administrator windows prompts the user asking what program the file should be opened with. Again this can be overcome by making the wish.exe program from the ActiveTcl folder the default program to use. Regards, Robert Oeffner, Ph.D. Research Associate, Read group Department of Haematology, University of Cambridge Cambridge Institute of Medical Research Wellcome Trust / MRC Building, Hills Road, Cambridge, CB2 0XY www-structmed.cimr.cam.ac.uk, tel:01223763234
Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of CCP4 under Windows 7
Hmm, works fine for me. Maybe disable user account control? Jacob On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Jan Dohnalek dohnalek...@gmail.com wrote: does not seem to create anything runnable - please any experience here? I downloaded the latest Windows package all users - type. Installed under admin (as it would not let me otherwise). Now as a user I cannot start the interface no matter what I try. There is no ccp4.setup file ... Jan -- Jan Dohnalek, Ph.D Institute of Macromolecular Chemistry Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic Heyrovskeho nam. 2 16206 Praha 6 Czech Republic Tel: +420 296 809 390 Fax: +420 296 809 410 -- *** Jacob Pearson Keller Northwestern University Medical Scientist Training Program email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu ***
Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of CCP4 under Windows 7
I have slightly different problem. I have windows 7 Enterprise. I don't get any shortcuts on my desktop after installation.I work with admin account. If I try to execute /ccp4-6.2.0/ccp4i/bin/ccp4i.tcl I get the following error. please see attachment.I installed ActiveTcl8.4.19.5.294332-win32-ix86-threaded which was available on CCP4 website. Still it didnt helpI would greatly appreciate if you could me help me in solving this problem. ThanksRaj Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 08:35:48 -0500 From: j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of CCP4 under Windows 7 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Hmm, works fine for me. Maybe disable user account control? Jacob On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Jan Dohnalek dohnalek...@gmail.com wrote: does not seem to create anything runnable - please any experience here? I downloaded the latest Windows package all users - type. Installed under admin (as it would not let me otherwise). Now as a user I cannot start the interface no matter what I try. There is no ccp4.setup file ... Jan -- Jan Dohnalek, Ph.D Institute of Macromolecular Chemistry Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic Heyrovskeho nam. 2 16206 Praha 6 Czech Republic Tel: +420 296 809 390 Fax: +420 296 809 410 -- *** Jacob Pearson Keller Northwestern University Medical Scientist Training Program email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu *** attachment: error.png
