RE: Regex help

2003-09-12 Thread Joshua Miller
Oops, you're right, this is what I should have said:

[^c]at

That matches any AT except CAT

Thanks,

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-Original Message-
From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:25 PM
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Subject: Re: Regex help


but not in CAT or CATalog or CATastrophe, etc.

Neither tattoo, in [^cat] any of c, a or t may not precede at.


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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Homesite+ is ONLY available via a purchase of DWMX2004.

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I own Studio MX, but I don't want to pay the $200 for the DW upgrade
just for Homesite+. Is there any other option?

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Re: CMFX 6.1 much better

2003-09-12 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Friday 12 Sep 2003 01:48 am, Brook Davies wrote:
 Have others also found better stability and speed with 6.1?

Much faster (start-up and running). There is some evidence for it using more 
memory, but we changed more than just CF when we upgraded, so it's difficult 
for us to tell.

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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Ken Wilson
If you own Studio MX you already have Homesite+ on the CD. Gotta dig down
through the directories to find it, though, since MM prefers not to
emphasize it. I didn't see anything new noted for Homesite+ that would
warrant an upgrade.

Ken


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Subject: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


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just for Homesite+. Is there any other option?

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RE: count and strip words from string.

2003-09-12 Thread Tony Weeg
just never f**ked with verity before. that's all.

plus, this will end up in a shared hosting environment, and its not that
complex of
searching going on...

that's all...but ill look into it, then also, look at looping through
the list with space as the delimiter too!!!

thanks guys!

tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
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-Original Message-
From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:41 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: count and strip words from string.


   cfset firstWordBreak = find(' ',search,1)

   cfif firstWordBreak
   cfset secondWordBreak = find('
',search,firstWordBreak)
   /cfif

   cfif isDefined(secondWordBreak) and secondWordBreak
   cfset thirdWordBreak = find('
',search,secondWordBreak)
   /cfif

   cfif isDefined(thirdWordBreak) and thirdWordBreak
   cfset fourthWordBreak = find('
',search,thirdWordBreak)
   /cfif

got it.


thats what ill do, then mid the strings out, and build the dynamic 
query based on the presence of a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th word that may be

there, should i make them separate by commas, since st. anne would 
return, st. joseph as well as many other possibilities, but if i make 
them separate by commas, then ill be good, cause they will be 
separating it themselves, and then i can just find commasmore 
reliable i think. huh?


A few things:

1) You might be better off finding a different delimiter if you use your

solution and are expecting search terms like St. Anne's.

2) You'd probably be better off treating the search terms as a list with
a 
space as a delimiter instead of the find() function, i.e.:

SELECT myColumn
FROM myTable
WHERE 0 = 0
cfloop list=#Form.searchTerms# index=term delimiter=  AND
myColumn LIKE %#term#% /cfloop

This way you don't have to worry about how many search terms are
entered, 
which your proposed solution seems to be (i.e., firstWordBreak, etc.)

3) Though not related to breaking up the search terms, why not use
Verity? I 
think you'll find that the performance and accuracy of your results are 
enhanced by creating a collection that's populated by the results of a 
database query.

Regards,
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RE: How Many CFMX Instances?

2003-09-12 Thread Demarco, Alex
I'm curious Sean, can you tell me what type of box you are running? What JVM
version are you using?

- Alex

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From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: How Many CFMX Instances?


On Thursday, Sep 11, 2003, at 10:13 US/Pacific, Demarco, Alex wrote:
 What is a good rule of thumb as to how many jrun/CFMX instances you
 need?

 We have one instance that handles all our web sites, should I break it
 down
 and split the sites amongst several instances?

It depends on a number of factors. If you want robustness (so one 
website doesn't trample on another) then yes, multiple instances will 
help - and give you a separate CF Admin for each instance. But you also 
need to consider the number of CPUs and the amount of RAM on your 
server (assuming you're talking about everything on one server). You'd 
need to experiment, performance-wise, but I'd say not to have more 
instances that you have CPUs for example.

We have two instances (each with a 2-3Gb JVM heap) on each of our 8 
CPU, 8Gb RAM servers but then we're running a very high traffic site 
(up to 20,000 concurrent sessions during peak traffic).

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error template snippet

2003-09-12 Thread Tony Weeg
hi there.

just trying to throw together a good error template to email me when any
page on our site
experiences and error,  does anyone have a good set of code that would
include some good error information
that I could snag?

thanks.
tony

tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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office 410.548.2337
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RE: error template snippet

2003-09-12 Thread Tim Laureska
Tony... do you mean something like below?

This is the application.cfm code:
!--- code for sending error message to web developer
cferror type=exception template=error_admin.cfm EXCEPTION=Any
mailto=[EMAIL PROTECTED]

!--- code for person viewing web page---
cferror type=request template=error_page.cfm
mailto=[EMAIL PROTECTED]


This table code displays in the browser and the cfmail code below that
is what comes to you
TR
  TD class=menu1b
  CF logged the following error information:
  cfoutput#error.Diagnostics#/cfoutput
  cfoutput
   UL
LIError occurred on  B#DateFormat(Now())#/Bnbsp;nbsp;at
b#TimeFormat(Now(),h:m tt)#/B

LIIP Address of Page Viewer was b#CGI.Remote_Addr#/b
LIViewers Browser: b#http_user_agent#/b
LIPage error was generated: #error.template#
LIURL Query string of Client's request: #error.QueryString#
   /UL/cfoutput
   /TD
 /TR
 
cfmail from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=Code Error Report
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] type=html
Error Date/Time: #DateFormat(Now())#  at #TimeFormat(Now(),h:m tt)#p
Viewers Browser: #http_user_agent#p
Page error was generated: #error.template#p
URL Query string of Client's request: #error.QueryString#p
#error.diagnostics#
/cfmail

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: error template snippet

hi there.

just trying to throw together a good error template to email me when any
page on our site
experiences and error,  does anyone have a good set of code that would
include some good error information
that I could snag?

thanks.
tony

tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.navtrak.net
office 410.548.2337
fax 410.860.2337


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RE: error template snippet

2003-09-12 Thread Ray Thompson
This displays the error:

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//IETF//DTD HTML//EN
HTML
HEAD
TITLETBP - Page Request Error/TITLE
/HEAD
pAn unexpected Page Request error has occurred. If the error persists, the
following error details can provide the development team with valuable
information to help identify and correct the condition which caused this
error. We apologize for the inconvenience and solicit your help in improving
the Tau Beta Pi Web-based application. Please provide a short description of
what you were doing when the error occurred to the A
HREF=mailto:#Error.Mailto#;Development Team/a. i[NOTE: This
information can be sent to the development team by clicking on the EMAIL
button located at the lower portion of the screen.]/i
pbPage Request Error Details:/b/p
small
form action=ErrorScriptDispatcher.cfm method=post
table width=100% border=1 cellpadding=2
  tr
th width=35%Attribute/th
th width=65%Description/th
  /tr
  tr
td width=35% align=right valign=middleDate  Time:/td
td width=65%#Error.DateTime#/td
  /tr
  tr
td width=35% align=right valign=middleError Message:/td
td width=65%textarea cols=50 rows=18 name=ErrorDiagnostics
onFocus=this.blur();#Error.Diagnostics#/textarea/td
  /tr
  tr
td width=35% align=right valign=middleError Page:/td
td width=65%#Error.Template#/td
  /tr
  tr
td width=35% align=right valign=middleReferring Page:/td
td width=65%#Error.HTTPReferer#/td
  /tr
  tr
td width=35% align=right valign=middleURL Params:/td
td width=65%#Error.QueryString#/td
  /tr
  tr
td width=35% align=right valign=middleClient Address:/td
td width=65%#Error.RemoteAddress#/td
  /tr
  tr
td width=35% align=right valign=middleClient Browser:/td
td width=65%#Error.Browser#/td
  /tr
/table
table
  tr
td colspan=2Your Email Address:nbsp;input type=text
name=EmailAddress size=30 maxlength=50/td
  /tr
  tr
tdinput type=submit name=btnAction value=EMail to
Developers/td
tdinput type=submit name=btnAction value=Continue/td
  /tr
/table
input type=hidden name=ErrorDateTime value=#Error.DateTime#
input type=hidden name=ErrorTemplate value=#Error.Template#
input type=hidden name=ErrorHTTPReferer value=#Error.HTTPReferer#
input type=hidden name=ErrorQueryString value=#Error.QueryString#
input type=hidden name=ErrorRemoteAddress
value=#Error.RemoteAddress#
input type=hidden name=ErrorBrowser value=#Error.Browser#
input type=hidden name=FormID value=ErrorCFRequest
/form
/small
/body
/html

And this is where it posts to email the message.

!
Send e-mail notification of script error to developers
-
cfsetting enablecfoutputonly=Yes
cfset LF=Chr(10)
cfset TErrorDiagnostics=Form.ErrorDiagnostics
cfset
TErrorDiagnostics=ReplaceNoCase(Form.ErrorDiagnostics,/ppp,,ALL)

cfset TErrorDiagnostics=ReplaceNoCase(TErrorDiagnostics,p ,LF,ALL)
cfset TErrorDiagnostics=ReplaceNoCase(TErrorDiagnostics,p,LF,ALL)
cfset TErrorPage=Form.ErrorTemplate
cfset TErrorDateTime=ParseDateTime(Form.ErrorDateTime)
cfmail to=#TMailAddr# from=#LCase(Variables.From)# subject=Scripting
Logic Flaw
A script error has occurred in the application on
#DateFormat(TErrorDateTime,,  D, )# at
#TimeFormat(TErrorDateTime,h:mm:ss tt)#. The following provides details of
the error message and information to aid in the correction of the error.

Error Message:
#TErrorDiagnostics#

Error Page: #TErrorPage#

Referring Page: #GetFileFromPath(Form.ErrorHTTPReferer)#

URL Parameters: #Form.ErrorQueryString#

Remote Address of WorkStation: #Form.ErrorRemoteAddress#

Browser Type: #Form.ErrorBrowser#

This error message has also been logged on the ColdFusion server and can be
view by accessing the APPLICATION.LOG file on the server.
/cfmail
cfsetting enablecfoutputonly=No

Ray Thompson
Systems Administrator
Tau Beta Pi Association www.tbp.org
The Engineering Honor Society
Integrity and Excellence in Engineering


 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:57 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: error template snippet
 
 
 hi there.
 
 just trying to throw together a good error template to email 
 me when any page on our site experiences and error,  does 
 anyone have a good set of code that would include some good 
 error information that I could snag?
 
 thanks.
 tony
 
 tony weeg
 sr. web applications architect
 navtrak, inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.navtrak.net
 office 410.548.2337
 fax 410.860.2337
 
 
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RE: error template snippet

2003-09-12 Thread Tony Weeg
thank you tim, ray and qasimjust what I was looking for...i knew
what
to do, just needed something quick that was inclusive of all things I 
could catch, so I could catch an elusive little bugger this morning...

thanks!

tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.navtrak.net
office 410.548.2337
fax 410.860.2337


-Original Message-
From: Ray Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 9:06 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: error template snippet


This displays the error:

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//IETF//DTD HTML//EN
HTML
HEAD
TITLETBP - Page Request Error/TITLE
/HEAD
pAn unexpected Page Request error has occurred. If the error persists,
the following error details can provide the development team with
valuable information to help identify and correct the condition which
caused this error. We apologize for the inconvenience and solicit your
help in improving the Tau Beta Pi Web-based application. Please provide
a short description of what you were doing when the error occurred to
the A HREF=mailto:#Error.Mailto#;Development Team/a. i[NOTE: This
information can be sent to the development team by clicking on the EMAIL
button located at the lower portion of the screen.]/i pbPage
Request Error Details:/b/p small form
action=ErrorScriptDispatcher.cfm method=post table width=100%
border=1 cellpadding=2
  tr
th width=35%Attribute/th
th width=65%Description/th
  /tr
  tr
td width=35% align=right valign=middleDate  Time:/td
td width=65%#Error.DateTime#/td
  /tr
  tr
td width=35% align=right valign=middleError Message:/td
td width=65%textarea cols=50 rows=18
name=ErrorDiagnostics
onFocus=this.blur();#Error.Diagnostics#/textarea/td
  /tr
  tr
td width=35% align=right valign=middleError Page:/td
td width=65%#Error.Template#/td
  /tr
  tr
td width=35% align=right valign=middleReferring Page:/td
td width=65%#Error.HTTPReferer#/td
  /tr
  tr
td width=35% align=right valign=middleURL Params:/td
td width=65%#Error.QueryString#/td
  /tr
  tr
td width=35% align=right valign=middleClient Address:/td
td width=65%#Error.RemoteAddress#/td
  /tr
  tr
td width=35% align=right valign=middleClient Browser:/td
td width=65%#Error.Browser#/td
  /tr
/table
table
  tr
td colspan=2Your Email Address:nbsp;input type=text
name=EmailAddress size=30 maxlength=50/td
  /tr
  tr
tdinput type=submit name=btnAction value=EMail to
Developers/td
tdinput type=submit name=btnAction value=Continue/td
  /tr
/table
input type=hidden name=ErrorDateTime value=#Error.DateTime#
input type=hidden name=ErrorTemplate value=#Error.Template#
input type=hidden name=ErrorHTTPReferer
value=#Error.HTTPReferer# input type=hidden
name=ErrorQueryString value=#Error.QueryString# input
type=hidden name=ErrorRemoteAddress value=#Error.RemoteAddress#
input type=hidden name=ErrorBrowser value=#Error.Browser# input
type=hidden name=FormID value=ErrorCFRequest /form /small
/body /html

And this is where it posts to email the message.

!
Send e-mail notification of script error to developers
-
cfsetting enablecfoutputonly=Yes
cfset LF=Chr(10)
cfset TErrorDiagnostics=Form.ErrorDiagnostics
cfset
TErrorDiagnostics=ReplaceNoCase(Form.ErrorDiagnostics,/ppp,,A
LL)

cfset TErrorDiagnostics=ReplaceNoCase(TErrorDiagnostics,p
,LF,ALL) cfset
TErrorDiagnostics=ReplaceNoCase(TErrorDiagnostics,p,LF,ALL)
cfset TErrorPage=Form.ErrorTemplate
cfset TErrorDateTime=ParseDateTime(Form.ErrorDateTime)
cfmail to=#TMailAddr# from=#LCase(Variables.From)#
subject=Scripting Logic Flaw A script error has occurred in the
application on #DateFormat(TErrorDateTime,,  D, )# at
#TimeFormat(TErrorDateTime,h:mm:ss tt)#. The following provides
details of the error message and information to aid in the correction of
the error.

Error Message:
#TErrorDiagnostics#

Error Page: #TErrorPage#

Referring Page: #GetFileFromPath(Form.ErrorHTTPReferer)#

URL Parameters: #Form.ErrorQueryString#

Remote Address of WorkStation: #Form.ErrorRemoteAddress#

Browser Type: #Form.ErrorBrowser#

This error message has also been logged on the ColdFusion server and can
be view by accessing the APPLICATION.LOG file on the server. /cfmail
cfsetting enablecfoutputonly=No

Ray Thompson
Systems Administrator
Tau Beta Pi Association www.tbp.org
The Engineering Honor Society
Integrity and Excellence in Engineering


 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:57 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: error template snippet
 
 
 hi there.
 
 just trying to throw together a good error template to email
 me when any page on our site experiences and error,  does 
 anyone have a good set of code that would include some good 
 error information that I could snag?
 
 thanks.
 tony
 
 tony weeg
 sr. web applications architect
 navtrak, inc.
 [EMAIL 

RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Raymond Camden
http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/homesite/55/releaseno
tes_plus.html#new


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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:20 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 I think that is the non + (-+? :)) version...
 
 Is there actually anything new in 5.5+? There didn't seem to 
 be anything in 5.5 according to the page for it.
 
 $200 is a lot to ask for Homesite+ upgrade imo. Of course, if 
 there is nothing new, I wont bother.
 


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Re: Repost: SQL Help

2003-09-12 Thread Deanna Schneider
I might be wrong about what you're trying to get, but does this do it?
Select
SUM(Case
(
Select etp.etprocedureid
from eTransferProtocolLink etp
Where
etp.protocolid = 12
)
When 0 then 0
When null then 0
Else 1
End) as GIFT,
et.caseid
from etprocedure et
Group by
et.caseid, et.etProcedureid

- Original Message - 
From: Patricia G. L. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Repost: SQL Help


  You should be able to just do a MAX() around the Gift field (if I
  understand your intentions correctly, you need them around some
  other CASE statements as well) and add group by statements as needed.
 
 
 I tried to implement this 3 ways.  2 gave me errors (cause they're
 wrong) and 1 didn't give me the results I needed.  Referring back to
 the shorter query I started out with:

 This:

 Select
 Max
(
 Case
  (
Select count(etp.etprocedureid)
from eTransferProtocolLink etp
Where etp.etProcedureid = et.etProcedureid and
etp.protocolid = 12
  )
  When 0 then 0
  When null then 0
  Else 1
  End
)
 as GIFT,
et.caseid
 from etprocedure et
 Group by et.caseid

 Gives me this error:

 Cannot perform an aggregate function on an expression containing an
 aggregate or a subquery

 and so does:

 Select
 Case
  (
Select count( max( etp.etprocedureid) )
from eTransferProtocolLink etp
Where etp.etProcedureid = et.etProcedureid and
etp.protocolid = 12
  )
  When 0 then 0
  When null then 0
  Else 1
  End
 as GIFT,
et.caseid
 from etprocedure et
 Group by et.caseid

 This gave me no error, but the results were still wrong:

 Select
 Case
 (
 Select max(etp.etprocedureid)
 from eTransferProtocolLink etp
 Where
 etp.protocolid = 12
 )
 When 0 then 0
 When null then 0
 Else 1
 End as GIFT,
 et.caseid
 from etprocedure et
 Group by
 et.caseid, et.etProcedureid
 
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Re: Repost: SQL Help

2003-09-12 Thread Patricia G. L. Hall
Well, I don't need the Sum.  And also this causes the error:

Cannot perform an aggregate function on an expression containing an 
aggregate or a subquery

Thanks - Patti

 I might be wrong about what you're trying to get, but does this do it?
Select
 SUM(Case
 (
 Select etp.etprocedureid
 from eTransferProtocolLink etp
 Where
 etp.protocolid = 12
 )
 When  then 0
 When null then 0
 Else 1
 End) as GIFT,
 et.caseid
 from etprocedure et
 Group by
 et.caseid, et.etProcedureid

 - Original Message -
 From: Patricia G. L. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 5:20 PM
 Subject: Re: Repost: SQL Help


  You should be able to just do a MAX() around the Gift field (if I
understand your intentions correctly, you need them around some other CASE
statements as well) and add group by statements as needed.
 
 
 I tried to implement this 3 ways.  2 gave me errors (cause they're
wrong) and 1 didn't give me the results I needed.  Referring back to the
shorter query I started out with:
 This:
 Select
 Max
(
 Case
  (
Select count(etp.etprocedureid)
from eTransferProtocolLink etp
Where etp.etProcedureid = et.etProcedureid and
etp.protocolid = 12
  )
  When  then 0
  When null then 0
  Else 1
  End
)
 as GIFT,
et.caseid
 from etprocedure et
 Group by et.caseid
 Gives me this error:
 Cannot perform an aggregate function on an expression containing an
aggregate or a subquery
 and so does:
 Select
 Case
  (
Select count( max( etp.etprocedureid) )
from eTransferProtocolLink etp
Where etp.etProcedureid = et.etProcedureid and
etp.protocolid = 12
  )
  When  then 0
  When null then 0
  Else 1
  End
 as GIFT,
et.caseid
 from etprocedure et
 Group by et.caseid
 This gave me no error, but the results were still wrong:
 Select
 Case
 (
 Select max(etp.etprocedureid)
 from eTransferProtocolLink etp
 Where
 etp.protocolid = 12
 )
 When  then 0
 When null then 0
 Else 1
 End as GIFT,
 et.caseid
 from etprocedure et
 Group by
 et.caseid, et.etProcedureid
 
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Re: Cracking the RDS protocol?

2003-09-12 Thread Deanna Schneider
But, aren't cgi variables determined by the server? These are internal apps,
LDAP-protected to our employees. They're not designed to be portable. So, I
know what server the app is running on. I know when and if a change is made
to that server. I do a few apps where I query LDAP directly and use session
variables to authenticate. But, for the majority of our apps that are
protected to our employees, we just let LDAP take care of it, and I use
their username to determine who they are for various functions.



- Original Message - 
From: Sean A Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: Cracking the RDS protocol?


 On Wednesday, Sep 10, 2003, at 05:42 US/Pacific, Deanna Schneider wrote:
  live (in our case development) server, where we rely on the
  cgi.remote_user variable to determine who someone is. Do you use LDAP
  to

 Unless you are writing code for a very specific environment where you
 can guarantee cgi.remote_user will work, I'd be very wary of relying on
 any CGI variables...

 Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/

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Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Critz
oi Raymond!!

RC If you closed HS+ 5.2 when a folder on a ColdFusion 5 server had focus, upon 
restarting the application, you would get an error stating that The system cannot 
find the file specified. This error no longer occurs (49117).


ah. so that's what caused that. well hell, that is GOOD to know!!!


-- 



Friday, September 12, 2003, 9:16:10 AM, you wrote:

RC http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/homesite/55/releaseno
RC tes_plus.html#new

RC 
RC ===
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 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:20 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 I think that is the non + (-+? :)) version...
 
 Is there actually anything new in 5.5+? There didn't seem to 
 be anything in 5.5 according to the page for it.
 
 $200 is a lot to ask for Homesite+ upgrade imo. Of course, if 
 there is nothing new, I wont bother.
 


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Re: error template snippet

2003-09-12 Thread jon hall
CF_MailTemplateErrors is the best tag I've ever downloaded from the cf
exchange. I use it on every site I do.
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#loc=en_usview=sn106viewName=Exchange%20Search%20Detailsauthorid=31287442page=0scrollPos=0subcatid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=0extid=1001525catid=0

-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Friday, September 12, 2003, 8:56:39 AM, you wrote:
TW hi there.

TW just trying to throw together a good error template to email me when any
TW page on our site
TW experiences and error,  does anyone have a good set of code that would
TW include some good error information
TW that I could snag?

TW thanks.
TW tony

TW tony weeg
TW sr. web applications architect
TW navtrak, inc.
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CFERROR

2003-09-12 Thread Dave Sueltenfuss
I have setup cferror my application.cfm, with a type of REQUEST that
calls a local CF page. For some reason, when a syntax error occurs, the
tag does not get called, and the standard error code shows. Any Ideas? I
have included the code.

Code within application.cfm
!---Request Error Code ---
cferror type=Request template=error_request.cfm

Error_Request.cfm
!---
---Page..: error_request.cfm
---Date..: 09/12/2003
---Author: Dave Sueltenfuss
---Desc..: Displays error message
---Called By.: 
---Calls.: 
---Modifications
***
---
--- EditorDate  Description
---Dave Sueltenfuss  08/29/03   Created as new
---
html
!---Defines style sheet---
STYLE TYPE=text/css
  BODY {
background : #7690C3;
color:black;
  }
  A  {
color: #0017D1;
font: Latha;
  }
  table{
background-color : #DDE5CD;
  }
/STYLE
body
div align=center
img src=images/hrmslogo.gif/br
The system has encountered an error while processing
this page.br
Please go a href=javascript:history.go(-1)back/a,
and try again.br
If you still encounter this message, please contact a
href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
onmouseover=window.status='';return trueHRMS Technical
Support/a,br with the information located belowbr
Error:#error.message#br
Template:#error.template#br
/div
/body
/html

Thanks

Dave Sueltenfuss 
Application Developer 
Certified ColdFusion MX Developer 
Arch Wireless 
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RE: Strange problem

2003-09-12 Thread Kris Pilles
Thanks for all your help.

Since our IE had a defined proxy server it could get out to the web.  I
had to add the proxy server info and login to my cfinvoke and now I am
all set.

Thanks again

KP

-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Strange problem


Sounds like your client (desktop) machine can hit port 80 on that  
system but your CF server (which is a different machine?) cannot?

On Thursday, Sep 11, 2003, at 12:53 US/Pacific, Kris Pilles wrote:

 Its weird because I can resolve the URL in the vrowser but it seems
 like
 Coldfusion can not... Any ideas how to fix on the firewall side?

 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:46 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Strange problem


 What happens if you switch to CFHTTP and just dump out the results?

 ==
 =
 =
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 -Original Message-
 From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:44 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Strange problem


 Still erroriing out, has been doing so since yesturday...

 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:42 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Strange problem


 Could it have been a temporary network problem? Can you try again?

 ==
 ==
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 -Original Message-
 From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:10 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Strange problem


 I did also notice that it was not putting an entry in the
 webservices
 in the admin..

 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:01 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Strange problem


 If you go to that machine, open a browser and enter the
 URL, does it
 work?



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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Michael Traher
OK I give up where exactly is the updater to upgrade Homesite+ 5.2 to
5.5?

Michael Traher 
Systems Manager
ICLP (London)
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-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 12 September 2003 14:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/homesite/55/releaseno
tes_plus.html#new


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 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:20 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 I think that is the non + (-+? :)) version...
 
 Is there actually anything new in 5.5+? There didn't seem to 
 be anything in 5.5 according to the page for it.
 
 $200 is a lot to ask for Homesite+ upgrade imo. Of course, if 
 there is nothing new, I wont bother.
 



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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Raymond Camden
Is it not on the CD? I _believe_ there is no free upgrade from 5.2 to
5.5. I think you only get it if you buy DWMX 2004.

Don't quote me on that though.

By the way, I've been playing some with DWMX 2004, and it's _really_
nice. The performance is much better (still not as good as HS+, but
close) and I'm _almost_ considering switching for a little while.
Almost. ;)


===
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 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:49 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 OK I give up where exactly is the updater to upgrade 
 Homesite+ 5.2 to 5.5?
 
 Michael Traher 
 Systems Manager
 ICLP (London)
 Tel: UK +44 (0) 20 8256 9072
 Fax: UK +44 (0) 20 8681 0234 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 12 September 2003 14:16
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/homesite/55/releaseno
tes_plus.html#new


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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:20 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 I think that is the non + (-+? :)) version...
 
 Is there actually anything new in 5.5+? There didn't seem to
 be anything in 5.5 according to the page for it.
 
 $200 is a lot to ask for Homesite+ upgrade imo. Of course, if
 there is nothing new, I wont bother.
 




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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
There isnt one AFAIK.  5.5 is only available via DWMX2004.

-Original Message-
From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 September 2003 14:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


OK I give up where exactly is the updater to upgrade Homesite+ 5.2 to
5.5?

Michael Traher 
Systems Manager
ICLP (London)
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-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 12 September 2003 14:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/homesite/55/releaseno
tes_plus.html#new


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 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:20 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 I think that is the non + (-+? :)) version...
 
 Is there actually anything new in 5.5+? There didn't seem to 
 be anything in 5.5 according to the page for it.
 
 $200 is a lot to ask for Homesite+ upgrade imo. Of course, if 
 there is nothing new, I wont bother.
 




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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I still find the startup time too slow and the way it 100% ties you to sites
is a real PITA.

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 September 2003 14:57
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


Is it not on the CD? I _believe_ there is no free upgrade from 5.2 to
5.5. I think you only get it if you buy DWMX 2004.

Don't quote me on that though.

By the way, I've been playing some with DWMX 2004, and it's _really_
nice. The performance is much better (still not as good as HS+, but
close) and I'm _almost_ considering switching for a little while.
Almost. ;)


===
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(www.mindseye.com)
Member of Team Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia)

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 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:49 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 OK I give up where exactly is the updater to upgrade 
 Homesite+ 5.2 to 5.5?
 
 Michael Traher 
 Systems Manager
 ICLP (London)
 Tel: UK +44 (0) 20 8256 9072
 Fax: UK +44 (0) 20 8681 0234 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 12 September 2003 14:16
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/homesite/55/releaseno
tes_plus.html#new


===
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:20 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 I think that is the non + (-+? :)) version...
 
 Is there actually anything new in 5.5+? There didn't seem to
 be anything in 5.5 according to the page for it.
 
 $200 is a lot to ask for Homesite+ upgrade imo. Of course, if
 there is nothing new, I wont bother.
 





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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Jeff Garza
I have to back Ray on this... I've been a die hard for CF Studio through
all the past iterations of Dreamweaver (1.0 - MX) and MX 2004 is the
best they've released.  I'm now using it for all new development... I've
committed myself to using it for a while.  It really is a huge
improvement over the base MX version.  I still use HS+ for quick edits
to files and such, but I haven't seen any reason to go back, yet.  The
CSS support alone makes it worth the upgrade for me.

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


Is it not on the CD? I _believe_ there is no free upgrade from 5.2 to
5.5. I think you only get it if you buy DWMX 2004.

Don't quote me on that though.

By the way, I've been playing some with DWMX 2004, and it's _really_
nice. The performance is much better (still not as good as HS+, but
close) and I'm _almost_ considering switching for a little while.
Almost. ;)


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 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:49 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 OK I give up where exactly is the updater to upgrade 
 Homesite+ 5.2 to 5.5?
 
 Michael Traher 
 Systems Manager
 ICLP (London)
 Tel: UK +44 (0) 20 8256 9072
 Fax: UK +44 (0) 20 8681 0234 
 
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 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 12 September 2003 14:16
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/homesite/55/releaseno
tes_plus.html#new


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 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:20 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 I think that is the non + (-+? :)) version...
 
 Is there actually anything new in 5.5+? There didn't seem to
 be anything in 5.5 according to the page for it.
 
 $200 is a lot to ask for Homesite+ upgrade imo. Of course, if
 there is nothing new, I wont bother.
 





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Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Critz
oi Neil!!

ummm i thought the new version of DWMX2k4 did NOT require sites?


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Friday, September 12, 2003, 9:59:36 AM, you wrote:

RRNR I still find the startup time too slow and the way it 100% ties you to sites
RRNR is a real PITA.

RRNR -Original Message-
RRNR From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RRNR Sent: 12 September 2003 14:57
RRNR To: CF-Talk
RRNR Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


RRNR Is it not on the CD? I _believe_ there is no free upgrade from 5.2 to
RRNR 5.5. I think you only get it if you buy DWMX 2004.

RRNR Don't quote me on that though.

RRNR By the way, I've been playing some with DWMX 2004, and it's _really_
RRNR nice. The performance is much better (still not as good as HS+, but
RRNR close) and I'm _almost_ considering switching for a little while.
RRNR Almost. ;)

RRNR 
RRNR ===
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RRNR (www.mindseye.com)
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 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:49 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 OK I give up where exactly is the updater to upgrade 
 Homesite+ 5.2 to 5.5?
 
 Michael Traher 
 Systems Manager
 ICLP (London)
 Tel: UK +44 (0) 20 8256 9072
 Fax: UK +44 (0) 20 8681 0234 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 12 September 2003 14:16
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
RRNR http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/homesite/55/releaseno
RRNR tes_plus.html#new

RRNR 
RRNR ===
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:20 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 I think that is the non + (-+? :)) version...
 
 Is there actually anything new in 5.5+? There didn't seem to
 be anything in 5.5 according to the page for it.
 
 $200 is a lot to ask for Homesite+ upgrade imo. Of course, if
 there is nothing new, I wont bother.
 





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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Well, I dont believe that to be 100% true.Things like internal links
etc, especially in design view require some form of mapping : its still nor
a true 100% code editor.

-Original Message-
From: Critz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 September 2003 15:13
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


oi Neil!!

ummm i thought the new version of DWMX2k4 did NOT require sites?


-- 



Friday, September 12, 2003, 9:59:36 AM, you wrote:

RRNR I still find the startup time too slow and the way it 100% ties you to
sites
RRNR is a real PITA.

RRNR -Original Message-
RRNR From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RRNR Sent: 12 September 2003 14:57
RRNR To: CF-Talk
RRNR Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


RRNR Is it not on the CD? I _believe_ there is no free upgrade from 5.2 to
RRNR 5.5. I think you only get it if you buy DWMX 2004.

RRNR Don't quote me on that though.

RRNR By the way, I've been playing some with DWMX 2004, and it's _really_
RRNR nice. The performance is much better (still not as good as HS+, but
RRNR close) and I'm _almost_ considering switching for a little while.
RRNR Almost. ;)

RRNR

RRNR ===
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RRNR (www.mindseye.com)
RRNR Member of Team Macromedia
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 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:49 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 OK I give up where exactly is the updater to upgrade 
 Homesite+ 5.2 to 5.5?
 
 Michael Traher 
 Systems Manager
 ICLP (London)
 Tel: UK +44 (0) 20 8256 9072
 Fax: UK +44 (0) 20 8681 0234 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 12 September 2003 14:16
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
RRNR
http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/homesite/55/releaseno
RRNR tes_plus.html#new

RRNR

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:20 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 I think that is the non + (-+? :)) version...
 
 Is there actually anything new in 5.5+? There didn't seem to
 be anything in 5.5 according to the page for it.
 
 $200 is a lot to ask for Homesite+ upgrade imo. Of course, if
 there is nothing new, I wont bother.
 





RRNR 

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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Raymond Camden
DWMX2004 allows you to use stuff w/o sites, even remote stuff.


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 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:00 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 I still find the startup time too slow and the way it 100% 
 ties you to sites is a real PITA.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 12 September 2003 14:57
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 


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RE: Cracking the RDS protocol?

2003-09-12 Thread Dave Watts
  Unless you are writing code for a very specific environment 
  where you can guarantee cgi.remote_user will work, I'd be 
  very wary of relying on any CGI variables...

 But, aren't cgi variables determined by the server? These are 
 internal apps, LDAP-protected to our employees. They're not 
 designed to be portable. So, I know what server the app is 
 running on. I know when and if a change is made to that server.

That would qualify as the very specific environment that Sean mentions, I
think. So, go ahead and use them!

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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Yeah it does, but so did MX top a degree.

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 September 2003 15:17
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


DWMX2004 allows you to use stuff w/o sites, even remote stuff.


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 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:00 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 I still find the startup time too slow and the way it 100% 
 ties you to sites is a real PITA.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 12 September 2003 14:57
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 



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Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread jon hall
Yeah...I tried DW 2004...
I tried navigating to this file I wanted to open, but I think I fell
asleep actually trying to navigate to it with that lovely little file
pane, but not before being amazed by how much time must have been
spent on all those really cute, Fisher-Price looking, rounded edges
everywhere. After I passed out...my face must have hit the keyboard
and it got uninstalled somehow.

The DW UI team should really spend some time at a usability seminar or
two imo. Just like on a web site, the content should be the focus, in
an IDE, the code should be the focus. The code should not be
overshadowed by all these bright colorful buttons, and other
distractions.
Of course...since the DW team is probably in San Francisco.oh
nevermind.

-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Friday, September 12, 2003, 9:59:36 AM, you wrote:
RRNR I still find the startup time too slow and the way it 100% ties you to sites
RRNR is a real PITA.

RRNR -Original Message-
RRNR From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RRNR Sent: 12 September 2003 14:57
RRNR To: CF-Talk
RRNR Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


RRNR Is it not on the CD? I _believe_ there is no free upgrade from 5.2 to
RRNR 5.5. I think you only get it if you buy DWMX 2004.

RRNR Don't quote me on that though.

RRNR By the way, I've been playing some with DWMX 2004, and it's _really_
RRNR nice. The performance is much better (still not as good as HS+, but
RRNR close) and I'm _almost_ considering switching for a little while.
RRNR Almost. ;)

RRNR 
RRNR ===
RRNR Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
RRNR (www.mindseye.com)
RRNR Member of Team Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia)

RRNR Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RRNR Blog : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus/blog
RRNR Yahoo IM : morpheus

RRNR My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda 

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:49 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 OK I give up where exactly is the updater to upgrade 
 Homesite+ 5.2 to 5.5?
 
 Michael Traher 
 Systems Manager
 ICLP (London)
 Tel: UK +44 (0) 20 8256 9072
 Fax: UK +44 (0) 20 8681 0234 
 
 This e-mail may contain privileged and confidential 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 12 September 2003 14:16
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
RRNR http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/homesite/55/releaseno
RRNR tes_plus.html#new

RRNR 
RRNR ===
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RRNR (www.mindseye.com)
RRNR Member of Team Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia)

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:20 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 I think that is the non + (-+? :)) version...
 
 Is there actually anything new in 5.5+? There didn't seem to
 be anything in 5.5 according to the page for it.
 
 $200 is a lot to ask for Homesite+ upgrade imo. Of course, if
 there is nothing new, I wont bother.
 





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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Tony Weeg
I second that.

im not sure where they are/were going with the whole dwmx thing, to be
quite honest
it doesn't seem to be much of a choice of an ide for most CODERS 

but what it does do, is give the *my cousin is a web master and is going
to build me a web commerce email website thingie for $250 bucks*
something to work with, really slow, and produce shit, so that we can
get the takeover on those types of sites, and make money ,faster better
and cheaper using a real ide, like hs+ or cfs.

tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
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www.navtrak.net
office 410.548.2337
fax 410.860.2337


-Original Message-
From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


Yeah...I tried DW 2004...
I tried navigating to this file I wanted to open, but I think I fell
asleep actually trying to navigate to it with that lovely little file
pane, but not before being amazed by how much time must have been spent
on all those really cute, Fisher-Price looking, rounded edges
everywhere. After I passed out...my face must have hit the keyboard and
it got uninstalled somehow.

The DW UI team should really spend some time at a usability seminar or
two imo. Just like on a web site, the content should be the focus, in an
IDE, the code should be the focus. The code should not be overshadowed
by all these bright colorful buttons, and other distractions. Of
course...since the DW team is probably in San Francisco.oh
nevermind.

-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Friday, September 12, 2003, 9:59:36 AM, you wrote:
RRNR I still find the startup time too slow and the way it 100% ties 
RRNR you to sites is a real PITA.

RRNR -Original Message-
RRNR From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RRNR Sent: 12 September 2003 14:57
RRNR To: CF-Talk
RRNR Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


RRNR Is it not on the CD? I _believe_ there is no free upgrade from 5.2

RRNR to 5.5. I think you only get it if you buy DWMX 2004.

RRNR Don't quote me on that though.

RRNR By the way, I've been playing some with DWMX 2004, and it's 
RRNR _really_ nice. The performance is much better (still not as good 
RRNR as HS+, but
RRNR close) and I'm _almost_ considering switching for a little while.
RRNR Almost. ;)

RRNR ==
RRNR ==
RRNR ===
RRNR Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
RRNR (www.mindseye.com)
RRNR Member of Team Macromedia
(http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia)

RRNR Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RRNR Yahoo IM : morpheus

RRNR My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:49 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 OK I give up where exactly is the updater to upgrade
 Homesite+ 5.2 to 5.5?
 
 Michael Traher
 Systems Manager
 ICLP (London)
 Tel: UK +44 (0) 20 8256 9072
 Fax: UK +44 (0) 20 8681 0234 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 12 September 2003 14:16
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
RRNR http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/homesite/55/rel
RRNR easeno
RRNR tes_plus.html#new

RRNR ==
RRNR ==
RRNR ===
RRNR Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
RRNR (www.mindseye.com)
RRNR Member of Team Macromedia
(http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia)

RRNR Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RRNR My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:20 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 I think that is the non + (-+? :)) version...
 
 Is there actually anything new in 5.5+? There didn't seem to be 
 anything in 5.5 according to the page for it.
 
 $200 is a lot to ask for Homesite+ upgrade imo. Of course, if there 
 is nothing new, I wont bother.
 





RRNR 


File Upload on MAC

2003-09-12 Thread cfhelp
So what do you guys do about uploading files from a MAC?

It seems that a MAC by default does not use file extension. So the CFFILE
tag errors with the invalid MIME TYPE.

Rick
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Possible to change doc root for cfmx in a Cluster?

2003-09-12 Thread Stacy Young
I have two instances on the same machine in our dev validation
environment (clustered)...I'd like to configure each instance to point
to the same directory outside of their default roots:
{jrun}/servers/myinstance

Rather than continually updating both sites. Anyone know how to do this?

Thanks!

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RE: Possible to change doc root for cfmx in a Cluster?

2003-09-12 Thread Stacy Young
Cancel that! :)

http://www.bpurcell.org/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=937

Stace

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Subject: Possible to change doc root for cfmx in a Cluster?


I have two instances on the same machine in our dev validation
environment (clustered)...I'd like to configure each instance to point
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RE: CFERROR

2003-09-12 Thread Pascal Peters
Type request is only called if no other handler catches the error. In your case, you 
probably have an error page defined in the administrator.
 

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I have setup cferror my application.cfm, with a type of REQUEST that
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Code within application.cfm
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RE: CFERROR

2003-09-12 Thread Dave Sueltenfuss
No, there is no error page defined in the CFAdmin. 

Dave


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Type request is only called if no other handler catches the error. In
your case, you probably have an error page defined in the administrator.
 

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REQUEST that
calls a local CF page. For some reason, when a syntax error
occurs, the
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Ideas? I
have included the code.

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Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Clint Tredway
I jst have one thing to say...

Everyone needs to remember that DW in all its forms was never and 
probably will not ever be touted as a code only editor. To expect to be 
is silly because MM is targeting multiple levels of abilities with one tool.

Clint

Tony Weeg wrote:

I second that.

im not sure where they are/were going with the whole dwmx thing, to be
quite honest
it doesn't seem to be much of a choice of an ide for most CODERS 

but what it does do, is give the *my cousin is a web master and is going
to build me a web commerce email website thingie for $250 bucks*
something to work with, really slow, and produce shit, so that we can
get the takeover on those types of sites, and make money ,faster better
and cheaper using a real ide, like hs+ or cfs.

tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.navtrak.net
office 410.548.2337
fax 410.860.2337


-Original Message-
From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


Yeah...I tried DW 2004...
I tried navigating to this file I wanted to open, but I think I fell
asleep actually trying to navigate to it with that lovely little file
pane, but not before being amazed by how much time must have been spent
on all those really cute, Fisher-Price looking, rounded edges
everywhere. After I passed out...my face must have hit the keyboard and
it got uninstalled somehow.

The DW UI team should really spend some time at a usability seminar or
two imo. Just like on a web site, the content should be the focus, in an
IDE, the code should be the focus. The code should not be overshadowed
by all these bright colorful buttons, and other distractions. Of
course...since the DW team is probably in San Francisco.oh
nevermind.

  




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grouping a query on date

2003-09-12 Thread Claude Schneegans
Hi,

I have a table with a date/time field in an Access database.
I want to have a query grouped on the date, with no regard to time, so that all 
records from the
same day are grouped.
I need a function (in SQL-Access) that will extract the day part of a date/time value, 
in a form
that is still suitable for sorting,
and I connot find any one.

I tried LEFT(mydate, 8), but it generates a date like mm/dd/yy not suitable for 
sorting.
What I need is the date of the day in true date format, not as a string.

Any idea ?

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Free Zip-latitude/longitude db

2003-09-12 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Does anyone know where I can find a free zip code - latitude longitude DB?
Don't need anything fancy, just zip code, longitude, latitude.  Using for a
basic store look-up function.

Andy


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RE: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db

2003-09-12 Thread Geoffrey Brown
Hi,
Not free, but a $29 database.  Looks like it has everything you'd need!

Geoff B

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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:13 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db


Does anyone know where I can find a free zip code - latitude longitude DB?
Don't need anything fancy, just zip code, longitude, latitude.  Using for a
basic store look-up function.

Andy



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Re: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db

2003-09-12 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Free may be the problem here.  Have a quickl search of the archives as this
one has come up at least 2-3 times in the last few months.  The main site
pointed to is something like www.zipinfo.com I beleivenot freebut
reasonable.

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:13 AM
Subject: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db


 Does anyone know where I can find a free zip code - latitude longitude DB?
 Don't need anything fancy, just zip code, longitude, latitude.  Using for
a
 basic store look-up function.

 Andy


 
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RE: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db

2003-09-12 Thread cfhelp
http://www.kchost.net/media/

I exported mine from SQL to access ZipCode.mdb

I got this from someone I think on this list about 6 months ago

Rick

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:13 AM
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Subject: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db

Does anyone know where I can find a free zip code - latitude longitude DB?
Don't need anything fancy, just zip code, longitude, latitude.  Using for a
basic store look-up function.

Andy



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RE: grouping a query on date

2003-09-12 Thread Ray Thompson
How about using the Year(), Month(), and Day() functions against the field
and sort on those. Use year as the major, month as the intermediate, and day
as the minor.

Ray Thompson
Systems Administrator
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The Engineering Honor Society
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 -Original Message-
 From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:04 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: grouping a query on date
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a table with a date/time field in an Access database.
 I want to have a query grouped on the date, with no regard to 
 time, so that all records from the same day are grouped. I 
 need a function (in SQL-Access) that will extract the day 
 part of a date/time value, in a form that is still suitable 
 for sorting, and I connot find any one.
 
 I tried LEFT(mydate, 8), but it generates a date like 
 mm/dd/yy not suitable for sorting. What I need is the date of 
 the day in true date format, not as a string.
 
 Any idea ?
 
 
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Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Claude Schneegans
MM is targeting multiple levels of abilities with one tool.

Now THIS is what is silly! ;-)

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RE: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db

2003-09-12 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Thanks.  Exactly what I was looking for.

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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:22 AM
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Subject: RE: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db


http://www.kchost.net/media/

I exported mine from SQL to access ZipCode.mdb

I got this from someone I think on this list about 6 months ago

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:13 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db

Does anyone know where I can find a free zip code - latitude longitude DB?
Don't need anything fancy, just zip code, longitude, latitude.  Using for a
basic store look-up function.

Andy




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Re: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db

2003-09-12 Thread Tony Schreiber
I used a db call FreeZip in the SMB code.

 Does anyone know where I can find a free zip code - latitude longitude DB?
 Don't need anything fancy, just zip code, longitude, latitude.  Using for a
 basic store look-up function.

 Andy


 
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RE: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db

2003-09-12 Thread Andy Ousterhout
I'd agree that it is reasonable.  There are even more cost effective
services available.  But until I know how much this feature will be used, I
just don't want to spend the money.

Thanks,
Andy

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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db


Free may be the problem here.  Have a quickl search of the archives as this
one has come up at least 2-3 times in the last few months.  The main site
pointed to is something like www.zipinfo.com I beleivenot freebut
reasonable.

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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www.macromedia.com
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- Original Message -
From: Andy Ousterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:13 AM
Subject: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db


 Does anyone know where I can find a free zip code - latitude longitude DB?
 Don't need anything fancy, just zip code, longitude, latitude.  Using for
a
 basic store look-up function.

 Andy




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RE: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db

2003-09-12 Thread Geoffrey Brown
Hi,
Forgot the link:
http://www.zipcodedownload.com/

Geoff B

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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:21 AM
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Hi,
Not free, but a $29 database.  Looks like it has everything you'd need!

Geoff B

-Original Message-
From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:13 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db


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CF MX *right* book.

2003-09-12 Thread Alexandr Timchur
Hi All,

Can you recommend me a right book discovering new features of
ColdFusion MX, especially CFC, without long speech about
SQL  Coldfusion basics?


Thank you!
Alex Timchur


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Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Clint Tredway
Not really. What is more cost effective, having one tool that multiple 
levels of people can use or multiple tools for different levels of people?

We may not agree or like what MM is doing with DW, but I for one and 
happy with the new enhancements and I still use other editors for 
different purposes.

Clint


Claude Schneegans wrote:

MM is targeting multiple levels of abilities with one tool.
  


Now THIS is what is silly! ;-)


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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Rafael Bleiweiss
A couple months before the Macromedia buyout of Allaire, I remember quite 
distinctly how
Allaire put out a call for a new Product Manager - I was one of many who 
applied, and got to the
pre-interview call stage, though I was passed over because my experience 
was heavy on the
PROJECT management side and weak on the PRODUCT management side...

THEN they radically raised the cost of Cold Fusion.   - My interpretation 
was and still is
that they did this as a pre-cursor to being audited for valuation by MM 
staff... the more you
make on your products the more you'll be bought for.

SO  With the new fees, new license structure, forced purchase of DW to 
get HomeSite,
it sounds like me they're positioning to eventually go from MacroMedia to 
MicroMedia when Microsoft makes the take-over move.




At 10:28 AM 9/12/2003, you wrote:
I second that.

im not sure where they are/were going with the whole dwmx thing, to be
quite honest
it doesn't seem to be much of a choice of an ide for most CODERS

but what it does do, is give the *my cousin is a web master and is going
to build me a web commerce email website thingie for $250 bucks*
something to work with, really slow, and produce shit, so that we can
get the takeover on those types of sites, and make money ,faster better
and cheaper using a real ide, like hs+ or cfs.

tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.navtrak.net
office 410.548.2337
fax 410.860.2337


-Original Message-
From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


Yeah...I tried DW 2004...
I tried navigating to this file I wanted to open, but I think I fell
asleep actually trying to navigate to it with that lovely little file
pane, but not before being amazed by how much time must have been spent
on all those really cute, Fisher-Price looking, rounded edges
everywhere. After I passed out...my face must have hit the keyboard and
it got uninstalled somehow.

The DW UI team should really spend some time at a usability seminar or
two imo. Just like on a web site, the content should be the focus, in an
IDE, the code should be the focus. The code should not be overshadowed
by all these bright colorful buttons, and other distractions. Of
course...since the DW team is probably in San Francisco.oh
nevermind.

--
  jon
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Friday, September 12, 2003, 9:59:36 AM, you wrote:
RRNR I still find the startup time too slow and the way it 100% ties
RRNR you to sites is a real PITA.

RRNR -Original Message-
RRNR From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RRNR Sent: 12 September 2003 14:57
RRNR To: CF-Talk
RRNR Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


RRNR Is it not on the CD? I _believe_ there is no free upgrade from 5.2

RRNR to 5.5. I think you only get it if you buy DWMX 2004.

RRNR Don't quote me on that though.

RRNR By the way, I've been playing some with DWMX 2004, and it's
RRNR _really_ nice. The performance is much better (still not as good
RRNR as HS+, but
RRNR close) and I'm _almost_ considering switching for a little while.
RRNR Almost. ;)

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  Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:49 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
  OK I give up where exactly is the updater to upgrade
  Homesite+ 5.2 to 5.5?
 
  Michael Traher
  Systems Manager
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RRNR http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/homesite/55/rel
RRNR easeno
RRNR tes_plus.html#new

RRNR ==
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RE: CF MX *right* book.

2003-09-12 Thread Tony Weeg
uncle bens

advanced macromedia cfmx app dev. is always a nice read!

tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
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-Original Message-
From: Alexandr Timchur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF MX *right* book.


Hi All,

Can you recommend me a right book discovering new features of ColdFusion
MX, especially CFC, without long speech about SQL  Coldfusion basics?


Thank you!
Alex Timchur



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RE: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db

2003-09-12 Thread Ryan Emerle
Here is another zip code DB in text format.
http://www.emerle.net/zipcode/


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Subject: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db


Does anyone know where I can find a free zip code - latitude longitude DB?
Don't need anything fancy, just zip code, longitude, latitude.  Using for a
basic store look-up function.

Andy



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RE: File Upload on MAC

2003-09-12 Thread Geoffrey Brown
Hi,
I haven't seen this problem.

One thing I can tell you, especially with file uploads from Macs - always
trim() your form fields.  Macs seem to have a tendancy to insert line breaks
at the end of form fields, which will certainly trash your attempt to upload
a file.

Geoff B

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Subject: File Upload on MAC


So what do you guys do about uploading files from a MAC?

It seems that a MAC by default does not use file extension. So the CFFILE
tag errors with the invalid MIME TYPE.

Rick

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Crazy Query Data Droppings

2003-09-12 Thread webmaster
I am quering a table during login, and setting a session scope with the
results to allow the branding of each unique client to fly...

I have two colors Main Color and Back color along with 12 other variables.

When I output the session scope, *every field* is correct save those two
variables.  It *always* shows the last digit of the field.

So then I output the query before setting the sesssion...same thing!

Run the query directly in SQL, results are correct.

So from SQL 2000 to CF 5 Pro is has decided religiously to punk those
numbers.   Anyone seen this and/or have an idea why this is occurring?

Thanks!

Eric



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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Raymond Camden
 SO  With the new fees, new license structure, forced 
 purchase of DW to 
 get HomeSite,
 it sounds like me they're positioning to eventually go from 
 MacroMedia to 
 MicroMedia when Microsoft makes the take-over move.

Question - if you were forced to buy DWMX to get a new copy of Studio -
why would this upset you if the cost was _less_ than it was before? It's
obvious that Macromedia has NOT abandonded CFS (now HS+), so I'm a bit
confused as to how anyone can complain. Should Macromedia start selling
HS+ separately at the old price? ;)


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Re:calling all users of PostgreSQL on Windows

2003-09-12 Thread lee
OK Bryan - 

You say you're an OSS newbie. That's fine; we all were once.

Why Postgres? Personally, I virtually always use Postgres when I can, but there is 
another OSS database available (well, a bunch, but it often comes down to Postgres 
vs): mySQL.

Up front, let me say that I'm not a fan of mySQL. To me, mySQL = Access; Postgres = 
Oracle (roughly, in both cases).

But there are time when you just need Access. Here's a quick hit list of the pros and 
cons of each (my opinions, but backed by experience and reading):

POSTGRES Pros:
- Robust, scalable
- ACID compliant
- ANSI 92 compliant; contains a plethora of functions that make life easier
- Fast (used to be a dog; in v7.1 and up, much faster - see Tim Perdue's articles as 
www.phpbuilder.net)
- Excellent security model
- Many tuning options

POSTGRES Cons:
- More complex (including set up)
- Lack of GUI tools (I have not found one I like yet; I do all my PSQL from the 
command line)
- Overkill in some cases - Just like you would not install Oracle for Bob's Pet 
Shoppe Web site, Postgres is sometimes unnecessary
- Not really cross-platform yet. Hopefully in 2004.

MYSQL Pros:
- Trivial set up
- Fast, at least for selects (main Web Server use)
- Cross platform; runs well on *NIX or Windows. Big plus
- Some good GUI tools out there (I use SQLYog; which I like a lot)
- It's improving rapidly - the cons outlined below may go away shortly

MYSQL Cons:
- You can outgrow it quickly (the locking mechanism is particularily troublesome; can 
take a real performance hit on high-traffic sites
- Weird, proprietary SQL
- No subselects (my biggest complaint)
- No transactions! (with the innoDB extension you can get transactions, but that's not 
currently a native solution, I believe)

Like the platform wars, a lot of folks take the mySQL vs. Postgres comparison as a 
war; I view them as two tools.

Pick the best one, but be aware of the costs/benefits of each.

RE: Cost, as in $$: Yep, both are free, with some businesses offering bundles for cost 
(as RedHat does with Linux etc).

One other note: For clients that are going to have a NON-dedicated server: It's almost 
impossible to find hosting for Postgres. Everyone has mySQL; very few with Postgres, 
and it's usually a managed business solution that is expensive. It's the chicken and 
the egg thing: Everyone has mySQL, so it's cheap; few have Postgres and it's not 
cheap, so they don't run it...


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Re: RE: CFERROR

2003-09-12 Thread ksuh
Use type=exception

- Original Message -
From: Dave Sueltenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, September 12, 2003 9:01 am
Subject: RE: CFERROR

 No, there is no error page defined in the CFAdmin. 
 
 Dave
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pascal Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:01 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CFERROR
 
 
 Type request is only called if no other handler catches the error. In
 your case, you probably have an error page defined in the 
 administrator. 
 
   -Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
   Van: Dave Sueltenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Verzonden: vr 12/09/2003 15:48 
   Aan: CF-Talk 
   CC: 
   Onderwerp: CFERROR
   
   
 
   I have setup cferror my application.cfm, with a type of
 REQUEST that
   calls a local CF page. For some reason, when a syntax error
 occurs, the
   tag does not get called, and the standard error code shows. Any
 Ideas? I
   have included the code.
   
   Code within application.cfm
   !---Request Error Code ---
   cferror type=Request template=error_request.cfm
   
 
 
 
 
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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
oh god...Microsoft makes the take-over move

not again..

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Sent: 12 September 2003 16:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


A couple months before the Macromedia buyout of Allaire, I remember quite 
distinctly how
Allaire put out a call for a new Product Manager - I was one of many who 
applied, and got to the
pre-interview call stage, though I was passed over because my experience 
was heavy on the
PROJECT management side and weak on the PRODUCT management side...

THEN they radically raised the cost of Cold Fusion.   - My interpretation 
was and still is
that they did this as a pre-cursor to being audited for valuation by MM 
staff... the more you
make on your products the more you'll be bought for.

SO  With the new fees, new license structure, forced purchase of DW to 
get HomeSite,
it sounds like me they're positioning to eventually go from MacroMedia to 
MicroMedia when Microsoft makes the take-over move.




At 10:28 AM 9/12/2003, you wrote:
I second that.

im not sure where they are/were going with the whole dwmx thing, to be
quite honest
it doesn't seem to be much of a choice of an ide for most CODERS

but what it does do, is give the *my cousin is a web master and is going
to build me a web commerce email website thingie for $250 bucks*
something to work with, really slow, and produce shit, so that we can
get the takeover on those types of sites, and make money ,faster better
and cheaper using a real ide, like hs+ or cfs.

tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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office 410.548.2337
fax 410.860.2337


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From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


Yeah...I tried DW 2004...
I tried navigating to this file I wanted to open, but I think I fell
asleep actually trying to navigate to it with that lovely little file
pane, but not before being amazed by how much time must have been spent
on all those really cute, Fisher-Price looking, rounded edges
everywhere. After I passed out...my face must have hit the keyboard and
it got uninstalled somehow.

The DW UI team should really spend some time at a usability seminar or
two imo. Just like on a web site, the content should be the focus, in an
IDE, the code should be the focus. The code should not be overshadowed
by all these bright colorful buttons, and other distractions. Of
course...since the DW team is probably in San Francisco.oh
nevermind.

--
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Friday, September 12, 2003, 9:59:36 AM, you wrote:
RRNR I still find the startup time too slow and the way it 100% ties
RRNR you to sites is a real PITA.

RRNR -Original Message-
RRNR From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RRNR Sent: 12 September 2003 14:57
RRNR To: CF-Talk
RRNR Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


RRNR Is it not on the CD? I _believe_ there is no free upgrade from 5.2

RRNR to 5.5. I think you only get it if you buy DWMX 2004.

RRNR Don't quote me on that though.

RRNR By the way, I've been playing some with DWMX 2004, and it's
RRNR _really_ nice. The performance is much better (still not as good
RRNR as HS+, but
RRNR close) and I'm _almost_ considering switching for a little while.
RRNR Almost. ;)

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RRNR ==
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  Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:49 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
  OK I give up where exactly is the updater to upgrade
  Homesite+ 5.2 to 5.5?
 
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Re: Free Zip-latitude/longitude db

2003-09-12 Thread Rafael Bleiweiss
I have one on my server It's two tables - zip codes with Lat, Long, 
FIPS code, and a couple other fields I don't use, cross referenced to a 
FIPS table that pulls the State and County names.

If my memory serves properly, it came from the Census bureau

www.brionanet.com/ziplookup.mdb





At 11:13 AM 9/12/2003, you wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find a free zip code - latitude longitude DB?
Don't need anything fancy, just zip code, longitude, latitude.  Using for a
basic store look-up function.

Andy



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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Stacy Young
It's extremely difficult for a single product to be 'the best' at
serving two distinct personas...

All I want out of DW is a fast, solid code editing tool with some
advanced text manipulation (like column selection etc), a service
browser so I can drag and drop my methods, DB access panel w/ basic SQL
queries (sometimes its convenient for quick lookups)...and a robust file
browser...and up-to-date tag/function insight for CFMX and AS1 + AS2.
Overall speed is essential...waiting 4-5 seconds for an IDE to refresh
is absurd.

I've been trying 2004 and right now...and at this point I'm less than
enthusiastic. Sure there are other options but I'm not interested in
having to hack and tweak another tool to get code insight etc. I think
there's more than a legitimate demand for a streamlined coding
IDE...just not sure why it hasn't been addressed yet.

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: September 12, 2003 11:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

Not really. What is more cost effective, having one tool that multiple 
levels of people can use or multiple tools for different levels of
people?

We may not agree or like what MM is doing with DW, but I for one and 
happy with the new enhancements and I still use other editors for 
different purposes.

Clint


Claude Schneegans wrote:

MM is targeting multiple levels of abilities with one tool.
  


Now THIS is what is silly! ;-)



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Re:grouping a query on date

2003-09-12 Thread lee
Use the datePart function 

DatePart(m,date_added) will return the integer of the month in date_added (a 
datetime field)

Use this to either construct a string that you then convert to a date, or three fields 
(day, month, year) that you apply three order criteria on.

Make sense?

Hi,

I have a table with a date/time field in an Access database.
I want to have a query grouped on the date, with no regard to time, so 
that all records from the
same day are grouped.
I need a function (in SQL-Access) that will extract the day part of a 
date/time value, in a form
that is still suitable for sorting,
and I connot find any one.

I tried LEFT(mydate, 8), but it generates a date like mm/dd/yy not 
suitable for sorting.
What I need is the date of the day in true date format, not as a 
string.

Any idea ?
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Re: Re:calling all users of PostgreSQL on Windows

2003-09-12 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Thanks Lee

Yup I already investigated the MySQL route.and simply puit...it ain't no
database if it doesn't have SPs,views. triggers, proper referential
integrity etc. ;-)

If PostgreSQL isn't ready for Windows in production then I'm going the MSDE
routeit will cost the client a couple extra bucks to get an MSDE licence
via Office (or the other ways you can get through MS licensing issues).  BTW
this will be a co-lo box so at least the shared hosting available technology
restrictions do not come into play ;-)

Cheers

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VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:43 AM
Subject: Re:calling all users of PostgreSQL on Windows


 OK Bryan -

 You say you're an OSS newbie. That's fine; we all were once.

 Why Postgres? Personally, I virtually always use Postgres when I can, but
there is another OSS database available (well, a bunch, but it often comes
down to Postgres vs): mySQL.

 Up front, let me say that I'm not a fan of mySQL. To me, mySQL = Access;
Postgres = Oracle (roughly, in both cases).

 But there are time when you just need Access. Here's a quick hit list of
the pros and cons of each (my opinions, but backed by experience and
reading):

 POSTGRES Pros:
 - Robust, scalable
 - ACID compliant
 - ANSI 92 compliant; contains a plethora of functions that make life
easier
 - Fast (used to be a dog; in v7.1 and up, much faster - see Tim Perdue's
articles as www.phpbuilder.net)
 - Excellent security model
 - Many tuning options

 POSTGRES Cons:
 - More complex (including set up)
 - Lack of GUI tools (I have not found one I like yet; I do all my PSQL
from the command line)
 - Overkill in some cases - Just like you would not install Oracle for
Bob's Pet Shoppe Web site, Postgres is sometimes unnecessary
 - Not really cross-platform yet. Hopefully in 2004.

 MYSQL Pros:
 - Trivial set up
 - Fast, at least for selects (main Web Server use)
 - Cross platform; runs well on *NIX or Windows. Big plus
 - Some good GUI tools out there (I use SQLYog; which I like a lot)
 - It's improving rapidly - the cons outlined below may go away shortly

 MYSQL Cons:
 - You can outgrow it quickly (the locking mechanism is particularily
troublesome; can take a real performance hit on high-traffic sites
 - Weird, proprietary SQL
 - No subselects (my biggest complaint)
 - No transactions! (with the innoDB extension you can get transactions,
but that's not currently a native solution, I believe)

 Like the platform wars, a lot of folks take the mySQL vs. Postgres
comparison as a war; I view them as two tools.

 Pick the best one, but be aware of the costs/benefits of each.

 RE: Cost, as in $$: Yep, both are free, with some businesses offering
bundles for cost (as RedHat does with Linux etc).

 One other note: For clients that are going to have a NON-dedicated server:
It's almost impossible to find hosting for Postgres. Everyone has mySQL;
very few with Postgres, and it's usually a managed business solution that
is expensive. It's the chicken and the egg thing: Everyone has mySQL, so
it's cheap; few have Postgres and it's not cheap, so they don't run it...


 
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Re: grouping a query on date

2003-09-12 Thread Claude Schneegans
Thanks,

Ok, I manage to get this:

SELECT  year(moment)  month(moment)  day(moment) AS theDay, ...
  FROM theTable
  WHERE moment  #createODBCDate(Now()-15)#
  GROUP BY year(moment)  month(moment)  day(moment), ...
  ORDER BY year(moment)  month(moment)  day(moment) DESC, ...

And it almost works. The problem is that these functions generate only one digit 
values between 1 and 9, the the sorting is not correct. I get 200398 instead of 
20030908.
Is there a way I can format them on two digits?

The problem also is to find where such functions are documented.
- They are not in my SQL book (not standard functions).
- They are not in the Access documentation,
- I have 3 books about Access, including one well documented about SQL specificities in
  Access, but none of them says a sinble word about functions one may call in SQL


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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Tony Weeg
how about intellisense

cfquery name=getSomeStuff datasource= (and here would be a list of
available datasources you have set up)

cfloop query =  (and here would be a list of queries on this
page.)

that would be cool, save some typing.

tony weeg
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-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


It's extremely difficult for a single product to be 'the best' at
serving two distinct personas...

All I want out of DW is a fast, solid code editing tool with some
advanced text manipulation (like column selection etc), a service
browser so I can drag and drop my methods, DB access panel w/ basic SQL
queries (sometimes its convenient for quick lookups)...and a robust file
browser...and up-to-date tag/function insight for CFMX and AS1 + AS2.
Overall speed is essential...waiting 4-5 seconds for an IDE to refresh
is absurd.

I've been trying 2004 and right now...and at this point I'm less than
enthusiastic. Sure there are other options but I'm not interested in
having to hack and tweak another tool to get code insight etc. I think
there's more than a legitimate demand for a streamlined coding
IDE...just not sure why it hasn't been addressed yet.

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: September 12, 2003 11:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

Not really. What is more cost effective, having one tool that multiple 
levels of people can use or multiple tools for different levels of
people?

We may not agree or like what MM is doing with DW, but I for one and 
happy with the new enhancements and I still use other editors for 
different purposes.

Clint


Claude Schneegans wrote:

MM is targeting multiple levels of abilities with one tool.
  


Now THIS is what is silly! ;-)




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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
hehe here we go (strapping on my seat harness)

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


oh god...Microsoft makes the take-over move

not again..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 September 2003 16:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


A couple months before the Macromedia buyout of Allaire, I remember quite
distinctly how
Allaire put out a call for a new Product Manager - I was one of many who
applied, and got to the
pre-interview call stage, though I was passed over because my experience
was heavy on the
PROJECT management side and weak on the PRODUCT management side...

THEN they radically raised the cost of Cold Fusion.   - My interpretation
was and still is
that they did this as a pre-cursor to being audited for valuation by MM
staff... the more you
make on your products the more you'll be bought for.

SO  With the new fees, new license structure, forced purchase of DW to
get HomeSite,
it sounds like me they're positioning to eventually go from MacroMedia to
MicroMedia when Microsoft makes the take-over move.




At 10:28 AM 9/12/2003, you wrote:
I second that.

im not sure where they are/were going with the whole dwmx thing, to be
quite honest
it doesn't seem to be much of a choice of an ide for most CODERS

but what it does do, is give the *my cousin is a web master and is going
to build me a web commerce email website thingie for $250 bucks*
something to work with, really slow, and produce shit, so that we can
get the takeover on those types of sites, and make money ,faster better
and cheaper using a real ide, like hs+ or cfs.

tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.navtrak.net
office 410.548.2337
fax 410.860.2337


-Original Message-
From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


Yeah...I tried DW 2004...
I tried navigating to this file I wanted to open, but I think I fell
asleep actually trying to navigate to it with that lovely little file
pane, but not before being amazed by how much time must have been spent
on all those really cute, Fisher-Price looking, rounded edges
everywhere. After I passed out...my face must have hit the keyboard and
it got uninstalled somehow.

The DW UI team should really spend some time at a usability seminar or
two imo. Just like on a web site, the content should be the focus, in an
IDE, the code should be the focus. The code should not be overshadowed
by all these bright colorful buttons, and other distractions. Of
course...since the DW team is probably in San Francisco.oh
nevermind.

--
  jon
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Friday, September 12, 2003, 9:59:36 AM, you wrote:
RRNR I still find the startup time too slow and the way it 100% ties
RRNR you to sites is a real PITA.

RRNR -Original Message-
RRNR From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RRNR Sent: 12 September 2003 14:57
RRNR To: CF-Talk
RRNR Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


RRNR Is it not on the CD? I _believe_ there is no free upgrade from 5.2

RRNR to 5.5. I think you only get it if you buy DWMX 2004.

RRNR Don't quote me on that though.

RRNR By the way, I've been playing some with DWMX 2004, and it's
RRNR _really_ nice. The performance is much better (still not as good
RRNR as HS+, but
RRNR close) and I'm _almost_ considering switching for a little while.
RRNR Almost. ;)

RRNR ==
RRNR ==
RRNR ===
RRNR Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
RRNR (www.mindseye.com)
RRNR Member of Team Macromedia
(http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia)

RRNR Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RRNR Yahoo IM : morpheus

RRNR My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda

  -Original Message-
  From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:49 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
  OK I give up where exactly is the updater to upgrade
  Homesite+ 5.2 to 5.5?
 
  Michael Traher
  Systems Manager
  ICLP (London)
  Tel: UK +44 (0) 20 8256 9072
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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Rafael Bleiweiss
Question - if you were forced to buy DWMX to get a new copy of Studio -
why would this upset you if the cost was _less_ than it was before? It's
obvious that Macromedia has NOT abandonded CFS (now HS+), so I'm a bit
confused as to how anyone can complain. Should Macromedia start selling
HS+ separately at the old price? ;)

Actually, YES.  I have no need, desire, or willingness to have software 
I'll never use on my computer.  If it's tied together at the back end, then 
it's potentially going to have install,upgrade, and bug implications as 
well.

Unbundled, stand-alone.  Bundling and tying it in is what Microsoft has 
been doing since day one, and I've always disagreed with it, though I've 
adapted because it's the Operating system.

Until MM unbundles HomeSite, I'll stay with my OLD stand-alone version, and 
not shell out any more money.   Lost revenue to Macromedia, yet their own 
staff frankly admits that the CF community is by far a TINY fraction of 
their income base, so they really have no motive from their view to ever 
consider doing that which is purely in favor of the CF community in 
anything other than CF itself.

SO - Why not bundle HomeSite with CF instead?  Bet they never considered it!



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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
staff frankly admits that the CF community is by far a TINY fraction of 
their income base

Strange since CF is their #1 focus.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 September 2003 17:07
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


Question - if you were forced to buy DWMX to get a new copy of Studio -
why would this upset you if the cost was _less_ than it was before? It's
obvious that Macromedia has NOT abandonded CFS (now HS+), so I'm a bit
confused as to how anyone can complain. Should Macromedia start selling
HS+ separately at the old price? ;)

Actually, YES.  I have no need, desire, or willingness to have software 
I'll never use on my computer.  If it's tied together at the back end, then 
it's potentially going to have install,upgrade, and bug implications as 
well.

Unbundled, stand-alone.  Bundling and tying it in is what Microsoft has 
been doing since day one, and I've always disagreed with it, though I've 
adapted because it's the Operating system.

Until MM unbundles HomeSite, I'll stay with my OLD stand-alone version, and 
not shell out any more money.   Lost revenue to Macromedia, yet their own 
staff frankly admits that the CF community is by far a TINY fraction of 
their income base, so they really have no motive from their view to ever 
consider doing that which is purely in favor of the CF community in 
anything other than CF itself.

SO - Why not bundle HomeSite with CF instead?  Bet they never considered it!




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Re: grouping a query on date

2003-09-12 Thread Claude Schneegans
Use this to either construct a string

Same problem as with month(): how can I format the string to mmdd?

If only I could say datepart('mm', moment), but it won't take it.

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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Raymond Camden
 Actually, YES.  I have no need, desire, or willingness to 
 have software 
 I'll never use on my computer.  If it's tied together at the 
 back end, then 
 it's potentially going to have install,upgrade, and bug 
 implications as 
 well.


You do realize that the installer is 100% separate? You can easily put
HS+ on your system w/o installing DW. While the products _can_ talk to
each other, you do not have to use their integration. I've used HS+ and
never tied it to DW.


 Unbundled, stand-alone.  Bundling and tying it in is what 
 Microsoft has 
 been doing since day one, and I've always disagreed with it, 
 though I've 
 adapted because it's the Operating system.

MS bundles _different_ crap. Ie, they sell an OS, and bundle in a media
player, etc. DW and HS+ are both IDEs.

 Until MM unbundles HomeSite, I'll stay with my OLD 
 stand-alone version, and 
 not shell out any more money.   Lost revenue to Macromedia, 
 yet their own 
 staff frankly admits that the CF community is by far a TINY 
 fraction of 
 their income base, so they really have no motive from their 
 view to ever 
 consider doing that which is purely in favor of the CF community in 
 anything other than CF itself.

If you think MACR doesn't care about hard core coders, why would they
update HS+? 

Oh, I get it. It's part of the evil plan of Let's update their favorite
editor and sell it for a cheaper price plan. 


===
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(www.mindseye.com)
Member of Team Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia)

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: grouping a query on date

2003-09-12 Thread Geoffrey Brown
Hi,
It's been a while since I did any work in access, but you can try something
like this:
...
  ORDER BY year(moment)  '/'  month(moment)  '/'  day(moment) DESC, ...

SQL Server / TSQL allows you to cast a date into a format without the time.
Off the top of my head, I believe the format would be:

ORDER BY cast(moment,102)

Of course, access has some limitations in its tsql support.

If you drop by the msdn.microsoft.com, they have complete documentation of
what is and is not supported.

Geoff B


-Original Message-
From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: grouping a query on date


Thanks,

Ok, I manage to get this:

SELECT  year(moment)  month(moment)  day(moment) AS theDay, ...
  FROM theTable
  WHERE moment  #createODBCDate(Now()-15)#
  GROUP BY year(moment)  month(moment)  day(moment), ...
  ORDER BY year(moment)  month(moment)  day(moment) DESC, ...

And it almost works. The problem is that these functions generate only one
digit values between 1 and 9, the the sorting is not correct. I get 200398
instead of 20030908.
Is there a way I can format them on two digits?

The problem also is to find where such functions are documented.
- They are not in my SQL book (not standard functions).
- They are not in the Access documentation,
- I have 3 books about Access, including one well documented about SQL
specificities in
  Access, but none of them says a sinble word about functions one may call
in SQL



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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Dave Watts
 Actually, YES. I have no need, desire, or willingness to 
 have software I'll never use on my computer. If it's tied 
 together at the back end, then it's potentially going to 
 have install, upgrade, and bug implications as well.

You don't need to install Dreamweaver MX to use Homesite+. You just need to
buy it. They're separate executables on the CD.

 Until MM unbundles HomeSite, I'll stay with my OLD 
 stand-alone version, and not shell out any more money.

I really fail to comprehend this at all. You're not paying more than before,
you're paying less. You get two products instead of one, but you can choose
to use either or both. You want one of those products. Would it make you
happy if MM changed the box so that it said Homesite+ (with Dreamweaver
MX)?

 SO - Why not bundle HomeSite with CF instead? Bet they never 
 considered it!

Perhaps because there's typically more than one CF developer per CF server?
Or maybe because the people who buy server applications aren't the same ones
who buy development tools?

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: error template snippet

2003-09-12 Thread Tony Weeg
thanks jon!

tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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office 410.548.2337
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-Original Message-
From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 9:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: error template snippet


CF_MailTemplateErrors is the best tag I've ever downloaded from the cf
exchange. I use it on every site I do.
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#loc=en_usview=sn10
6viewName=Exchange%20Search%20Detailsauthorid=31287442page=0scrollPo
s=0subcatid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=0extid=1001525catid=0

-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Friday, September 12, 2003, 8:56:39 AM, you wrote:
TW hi there.

TW just trying to throw together a good error template to email me when

TW any page on our site experiences and error,  does anyone have a good

TW set of code that would include some good error information
TW that I could snag?

TW thanks.
TW tony

TW tony weeg
TW sr. web applications architect
TW navtrak, inc.
TW [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TW www.navtrak.net
TW office 410.548.2337
TW fax 410.860.2337

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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Rafael Bleiweiss
Relax guys... I was just tossing the old thread into the mix for the heck 
of it been awake about 50 hours and counting...

At 12:04 PM 9/12/2003, you wrote:
hehe here we go (strapping on my seat harness)

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


oh god...Microsoft makes the take-over move

not again..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 September 2003 16:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


A couple months before the Macromedia buyout of Allaire, I remember quite
distinctly how
Allaire put out a call for a new Product Manager - I was one of many who
applied, and got to the
pre-interview call stage, though I was passed over because my experience
was heavy on the
PROJECT management side and weak on the PRODUCT management side...

THEN they radically raised the cost of Cold Fusion.   - My interpretation
was and still is
that they did this as a pre-cursor to being audited for valuation by MM
staff... the more you
make on your products the more you'll be bought for.

SO  With the new fees, new license structure, forced purchase of DW to
get HomeSite,
it sounds like me they're positioning to eventually go from MacroMedia to
MicroMedia when Microsoft makes the take-over move.




At 10:28 AM 9/12/2003, you wrote:
 I second that.
 
 im not sure where they are/were going with the whole dwmx thing, to be
 quite honest
 it doesn't seem to be much of a choice of an ide for most CODERS
 
 but what it does do, is give the *my cousin is a web master and is going
 to build me a web commerce email website thingie for $250 bucks*
 something to work with, really slow, and produce shit, so that we can
 get the takeover on those types of sites, and make money ,faster better
 and cheaper using a real ide, like hs+ or cfs.
 
 tony weeg
 sr. web applications architect
 navtrak, inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.navtrak.net
 office 410.548.2337
 fax 410.860.2337
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:26 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 Yeah...I tried DW 2004...
 I tried navigating to this file I wanted to open, but I think I fell
 asleep actually trying to navigate to it with that lovely little file
 pane, but not before being amazed by how much time must have been spent
 on all those really cute, Fisher-Price looking, rounded edges
 everywhere. After I passed out...my face must have hit the keyboard and
 it got uninstalled somehow.
 
 The DW UI team should really spend some time at a usability seminar or
 two imo. Just like on a web site, the content should be the focus, in an
 IDE, the code should be the focus. The code should not be overshadowed
 by all these bright colorful buttons, and other distractions. Of
 course...since the DW team is probably in San Francisco.oh
 nevermind.
 
 --
   jon
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Friday, September 12, 2003, 9:59:36 AM, you wrote:
 RRNR I still find the startup time too slow and the way it 100% ties
 RRNR you to sites is a real PITA.
 
 RRNR -Original Message-
 RRNR From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 RRNR Sent: 12 September 2003 14:57
 RRNR To: CF-Talk
 RRNR Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
 
 
 RRNR Is it not on the CD? I _believe_ there is no free upgrade from 5.2
 
 RRNR to 5.5. I think you only get it if you buy DWMX 2004.
 
 RRNR Don't quote me on that though.
 
 RRNR By the way, I've been playing some with DWMX 2004, and it's
 RRNR _really_ nice. The performance is much better (still not as good
 RRNR as HS+, but
 RRNR close) and I'm _almost_ considering switching for a little while.
 RRNR Almost. ;)
 
 RRNR ==
 RRNR ==
 RRNR ===
 RRNR Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
 RRNR (www.mindseye.com)
 RRNR Member of Team Macromedia
 (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia)
 
 RRNR Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 RRNR Blog : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus/blog
 RRNR Yahoo IM : morpheus
 
 RRNR My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:49 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
  
  
   OK I give up where exactly is the updater to upgrade
   Homesite+ 5.2 to 5.5?
  
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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Ben Forta
 SO - Why not bundle HomeSite with CF instead? Bet they never
 considered it!

 Perhaps because there's typically more than one CF developer per CF
server?
 Or maybe because the people who buy server applications aren't the
same
 ones who buy development tools?

You hit the nail on the head, Dave. Most CF developers never see the CF
server, never even see the CF Admin, and never even see the box that the
product comes in. This is actually part of why we unbundled the language
docs way back when, admins did not want them and developers who did want
them did not get them. CF and the IDE are usually used by totally
different audiences. Developers using an IDE should have access to a
developer edition of CF, which is why they get just that. Truth is, if
we bundled an IDE with CF Server, people would complain that they are
being made to buy an IDE that they don't want. Damned if you do, damned
if you don't.

--- Ben



-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 12:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


 Actually, YES. I have no need, desire, or willingness to
 have software I'll never use on my computer. If it's tied 
 together at the back end, then it's potentially going to 
 have install, upgrade, and bug implications as well.

You don't need to install Dreamweaver MX to use Homesite+. You just need
to buy it. They're separate executables on the CD.

 Until MM unbundles HomeSite, I'll stay with my OLD
 stand-alone version, and not shell out any more money.

I really fail to comprehend this at all. You're not paying more than
before, you're paying less. You get two products instead of one, but you
can choose to use either or both. You want one of those products. Would
it make you happy if MM changed the box so that it said Homesite+ (with
Dreamweaver MX)?

 SO - Why not bundle HomeSite with CF instead? Bet they never
 considered it!

Perhaps because there's typically more than one CF developer per CF
server? Or maybe because the people who buy server applications aren't
the same ones who buy development tools?

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444


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Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Claude Schneegans
Question - if you were forced to buy DWMX to get a new copy of Studio -

Actually, it is DWMX that should be a free gift for kids on the CF-Studio disk! ;-)

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Re: grouping a query on date

2003-09-12 Thread Claude Schneegans
ORDER BY year(moment)  '/'  month(moment)  '/'  day(moment)

Thanks, but the '/' does not change anything in the sort.
The problem is that I need the month and days as '09', not '9'

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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Rafael Bleiweiss
staff frankly admits that the CF community is by far a TINY fraction of
their income base

Strange since CF is their #1 focus.



Yeah?  With all the MX family, CF is just one to many...  In an 
unofficial quote it was stated here on this list that apparently the vast 
majority of CF developers use the free version and therefor the revenue is 
not there.   This came up during our recent pleas to optimize the CF Tag 
gallery for the CF community rather and  the reason it is the way it is has 
to do with the fact that the majority of users are made up of all the MM 
client base, which dwarfs the CF base.





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 September 2003 17:07
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


 Question - if you were forced to buy DWMX to get a new copy of Studio -
 why would this upset you if the cost was _less_ than it was before? It's
 obvious that Macromedia has NOT abandonded CFS (now HS+), so I'm a bit
 confused as to how anyone can complain. Should Macromedia start selling
 HS+ separately at the old price? ;)

Actually, YES.  I have no need, desire, or willingness to have software
I'll never use on my computer.  If it's tied together at the back end, then
it's potentially going to have install,upgrade, and bug implications as
well.

Unbundled, stand-alone.  Bundling and tying it in is what Microsoft has
been doing since day one, and I've always disagreed with it, though I've
adapted because it's the Operating system.

Until MM unbundles HomeSite, I'll stay with my OLD stand-alone version, and
not shell out any more money.   Lost revenue to Macromedia, yet their own
staff frankly admits that the CF community is by far a TINY fraction of
their income base, so they really have no motive from their view to ever
consider doing that which is purely in favor of the CF community in
anything other than CF itself.

SO - Why not bundle HomeSite with CF instead?  Bet they never considered it!





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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Stacy Young
I'd have to say Flash and all its related products are clumped into #1,
then DW, then CF. At least from a revenue perspective.

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: September 12, 2003 12:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

staff frankly admits that the CF community is by far a TINY fraction of

their income base

Strange since CF is their #1 focus.



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Sent: 12 September 2003 17:07
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


Question - if you were forced to buy DWMX to get a new copy of Studio -
why would this upset you if the cost was _less_ than it was before?
It's
obvious that Macromedia has NOT abandonded CFS (now HS+), so I'm a bit
confused as to how anyone can complain. Should Macromedia start selling
HS+ separately at the old price? ;)

Actually, YES.  I have no need, desire, or willingness to have software 
I'll never use on my computer.  If it's tied together at the back end,
then 
it's potentially going to have install,upgrade, and bug implications as 
well.

Unbundled, stand-alone.  Bundling and tying it in is what Microsoft has 
been doing since day one, and I've always disagreed with it, though I've

adapted because it's the Operating system.

Until MM unbundles HomeSite, I'll stay with my OLD stand-alone version,
and 
not shell out any more money.   Lost revenue to Macromedia, yet their
own 
staff frankly admits that the CF community is by far a TINY fraction of 
their income base, so they really have no motive from their view to ever

consider doing that which is purely in favor of the CF community in 
anything other than CF itself.

SO - Why not bundle HomeSite with CF instead?  Bet they never considered
it!





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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Stacy Young
Nice! And how about popping up ur available methods on ur CFC too? :)

cfset myCFC. show method list

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: September 12, 2003 12:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

how about intellisense

cfquery name=getSomeStuff datasource= (and here would be a list of
available datasources you have set up)

cfloop query =  (and here would be a list of queries on this
page.)

that would be cool, save some typing.

tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.navtrak.net
office 410.548.2337
fax 410.860.2337


-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


It's extremely difficult for a single product to be 'the best' at
serving two distinct personas...

All I want out of DW is a fast, solid code editing tool with some
advanced text manipulation (like column selection etc), a service
browser so I can drag and drop my methods, DB access panel w/ basic SQL
queries (sometimes its convenient for quick lookups)...and a robust file
browser...and up-to-date tag/function insight for CFMX and AS1 + AS2.
Overall speed is essential...waiting 4-5 seconds for an IDE to refresh
is absurd.

I've been trying 2004 and right now...and at this point I'm less than
enthusiastic. Sure there are other options but I'm not interested in
having to hack and tweak another tool to get code insight etc. I think
there's more than a legitimate demand for a streamlined coding
IDE...just not sure why it hasn't been addressed yet.

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: September 12, 2003 11:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

Not really. What is more cost effective, having one tool that multiple 
levels of people can use or multiple tools for different levels of
people?

We may not agree or like what MM is doing with DW, but I for one and 
happy with the new enhancements and I still use other editors for 
different purposes.

Clint


Claude Schneegans wrote:

MM is targeting multiple levels of abilities with one tool.
  


Now THIS is what is silly! ;-)





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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Tony Weeg
zackly! now we are talking!!!

tony weeg
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-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 12:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


Nice! And how about popping up ur available methods on ur CFC too? :)

cfset myCFC. show method list

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: September 12, 2003 12:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

how about intellisense

cfquery name=getSomeStuff datasource= (and here would be a list of
available datasources you have set up)

cfloop query =  (and here would be a list of queries on this
page.)

that would be cool, save some typing.

tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.navtrak.net
office 410.548.2337
fax 410.860.2337


-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


It's extremely difficult for a single product to be 'the best' at
serving two distinct personas...

All I want out of DW is a fast, solid code editing tool with some
advanced text manipulation (like column selection etc), a service
browser so I can drag and drop my methods, DB access panel w/ basic SQL
queries (sometimes its convenient for quick lookups)...and a robust file
browser...and up-to-date tag/function insight for CFMX and AS1 + AS2.
Overall speed is essential...waiting 4-5 seconds for an IDE to refresh
is absurd.

I've been trying 2004 and right now...and at this point I'm less than
enthusiastic. Sure there are other options but I'm not interested in
having to hack and tweak another tool to get code insight etc. I think
there's more than a legitimate demand for a streamlined coding
IDE...just not sure why it hasn't been addressed yet.

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: September 12, 2003 11:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

Not really. What is more cost effective, having one tool that multiple 
levels of people can use or multiple tools for different levels of
people?

We may not agree or like what MM is doing with DW, but I for one and 
happy with the new enhancements and I still use other editors for 
different purposes.

Clint


Claude Schneegans wrote:

MM is targeting multiple levels of abilities with one tool.
  


Now THIS is what is silly! ;-)






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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Ben Forta
Oh yeah! A data aware IDE. I was begging for that back in CF Studio
days. That level of integration is #1 on my feature list for any future
IDE.

--- Ben



-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 12:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


Nice! And how about popping up ur available methods on ur CFC too? :)

cfset myCFC. show method list

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: September 12, 2003 12:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

how about intellisense

cfquery name=getSomeStuff datasource= (and here would be a list of
available datasources you have set up)

cfloop query =  (and here would be a list of queries on this
page.)

that would be cool, save some typing.

tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.navtrak.net
office 410.548.2337
fax 410.860.2337


-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


It's extremely difficult for a single product to be 'the best' at
serving two distinct personas...

All I want out of DW is a fast, solid code editing tool with some
advanced text manipulation (like column selection etc), a service
browser so I can drag and drop my methods, DB access panel w/ basic SQL
queries (sometimes its convenient for quick lookups)...and a robust file
browser...and up-to-date tag/function insight for CFMX and AS1 + AS2.
Overall speed is essential...waiting 4-5 seconds for an IDE to refresh
is absurd.

I've been trying 2004 and right now...and at this point I'm less than
enthusiastic. Sure there are other options but I'm not interested in
having to hack and tweak another tool to get code insight etc. I think
there's more than a legitimate demand for a streamlined coding
IDE...just not sure why it hasn't been addressed yet.

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: September 12, 2003 11:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

Not really. What is more cost effective, having one tool that multiple 
levels of people can use or multiple tools for different levels of
people?

We may not agree or like what MM is doing with DW, but I for one and 
happy with the new enhancements and I still use other editors for 
different purposes.

Clint


Claude Schneegans wrote:

MM is targeting multiple levels of abilities with one tool.
  


Now THIS is what is silly! ;-)






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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Rafael Bleiweiss
You do realize that the installer is 100% separate? You can easily put
HS+ on your system w/o installing DW. While the products _can_ talk to
each other, you do not have to use their integration. I've used HS+ and
never tied it to DW.

Right, but there's excess technology in there, and every upgrade requires 
waiting for a DW upgrade... and that pricing issue may be for now, what 
about down the road?  Will it always be a separate install?

Just my lone opinion here - if the team the evolves HS are the same team 
that evolves DW, it's two different mind sets being forced into one team, 
which dilutes the potential quality of where HS can go so to me that 
detracts from it even more.

If they're a different team, then there's no real reason why they can't 
give it to us stand-alone.  I mean I'm GIVING them a reason to make more 
money here by splitting it out.   OR as stated already, bundle it with CF 
because I bet we're the majority of users right?



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RE: grouping a query on date

2003-09-12 Thread Ray Thompson
Ok, convert character, add a leading zero, take the rightmost two
characters.

Ray Thompson
Systems Administrator
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The Engineering Honor Society
Integrity and Excellence in Engineering


 -Original Message-
 From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 12:18 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: grouping a query on date
 
 
 ORDER BY year(moment)  '/'  month(moment)  '/'  day(moment)
 
 Thanks, but the '/' does not change anything in the sort.
 The problem is that I need the month and days as '09', not '9'
 
 
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Re: grouping a query on date: GOT IT!

2003-09-12 Thread Claude Schneegans
format(moment, 'mmdd') will do the trick!

But I'm kind of tired having to guess and shoot in the dark very time.
WHERE are those ^%$ functions available in Access SQL documented?

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RE: RE: CF MX *right* book.

2003-09-12 Thread Mike Brunt
Rob Brooks-Bilson has a book published by O'Reilley which has content for 6.1 release 
of CFMX.  It is called Programming ColdFusion MX, 2nd Edition and you can find 
details here in our blog.

http://www.webapper.net/index.cfm?fuseaction=Fuseblog.ShowCommentsArticleID=20030818084646

Hth

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
Original Message ---
uncle bens

advanced macromedia cfmx app dev. is always a nice read!

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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF MX *right* book.


Hi All,

Can you recommend me a right book discovering new features of ColdFusion
MX, especially CFC, without long speech about SQL  Coldfusion basics?


Thank you!
Alex Timchur




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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Tony Weeg
t'would be very cooli mean they do it in visualStudio so we should
be able to cf studio/hs+ I meant ;)

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-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 12:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


Oh yeah! A data aware IDE. I was begging for that back in CF Studio
days. That level of integration is #1 on my feature list for any future
IDE.

--- Ben



-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 12:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


Nice! And how about popping up ur available methods on ur CFC too? :)

cfset myCFC. show method list

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: September 12, 2003 12:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

how about intellisense

cfquery name=getSomeStuff datasource= (and here would be a list of
available datasources you have set up)

cfloop query =  (and here would be a list of queries on this
page.)

that would be cool, save some typing.

tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.navtrak.net
office 410.548.2337
fax 410.860.2337


-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 11:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?


It's extremely difficult for a single product to be 'the best' at
serving two distinct personas...

All I want out of DW is a fast, solid code editing tool with some
advanced text manipulation (like column selection etc), a service
browser so I can drag and drop my methods, DB access panel w/ basic SQL
queries (sometimes its convenient for quick lookups)...and a robust file
browser...and up-to-date tag/function insight for CFMX and AS1 + AS2.
Overall speed is essential...waiting 4-5 seconds for an IDE to refresh
is absurd.

I've been trying 2004 and right now...and at this point I'm less than
enthusiastic. Sure there are other options but I'm not interested in
having to hack and tweak another tool to get code insight etc. I think
there's more than a legitimate demand for a streamlined coding
IDE...just not sure why it hasn't been addressed yet.

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: September 12, 2003 11:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

Not really. What is more cost effective, having one tool that multiple 
levels of people can use or multiple tools for different levels of
people?

We may not agree or like what MM is doing with DW, but I for one and 
happy with the new enhancements and I still use other editors for 
different purposes.

Clint


Claude Schneegans wrote:

MM is targeting multiple levels of abilities with one tool.
  


Now THIS is what is silly! ;-)







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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Raymond Camden
 Right, but there's excess technology in there, and every 
 upgrade requires 
 waiting for a DW upgrade... and that pricing issue may be for 
 now, what 
 about down the road?  Will it always be a separate install?

I'm not saying that I wouldn't mind it if MACR sold HS+ separately, but
to be honest, I know diddly about product marketing, so I'm not going to
pretend to know what makes sense for them. But how can you complain
about pricing? _Any_ company can raise prices. Who knows what MACR will
do? But it's not fair to hold a _potential_ price increase against them
when you have no proof that one will ever come about.

 Just my lone opinion here - if the team the evolves HS are 
 the same team 
 that evolves DW, it's two different mind sets being forced 
 into one team, 
 which dilutes the potential quality of where HS can go so to me that 
 detracts from it even more.

Err, ok. Let's say you are right. Take a look at HS+ 5.5. Do you see a
lack of quality? I don't. And as I have stated before, DWMX2004 is dang
nice as well. To be honest, I don't care if its ONE guy doing all the
work. I don't care if it's the guy's dog doing the work. All I care
about is the finished product, and both kick major butt. That's not to
say that MACR won't screw up, fire the wrong people (ahem), etc, but
again, that's in the future.


 If they're a different team, then there's no real reason why 
 they can't 
 give it to us stand-alone.  I mean I'm GIVING them a reason 
 to make more 
 money here by splitting it out.   OR as stated already, 
 bundle it with CF 
 because I bet we're the majority of users right?

I think Ben and others answered the bundle w/ server question already.


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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Rafael Bleiweiss
I do need to say thanks for reminding me about the ridiculousness of 
bundling HS with CF... been up too long to have thought that aspect through.

All the other points regarding our desires for a lean high end coder stand 
though in terms of stand-alone, more focus on delivery of an evolving code 
writer that doesnt need to wait for the next DW deliverable, etc.


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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Dave Watts
 Right, but there's excess technology in there, and every 
 upgrade requires waiting for a DW upgrade... and that 
 pricing issue may be for now, what about down the road?  
 Will it always be a separate install?

Who knows what it'll be in the future? That's hardly an argument against the
present. You're basically saying, I don't like the way things are now,
because they might change later! You're free, now, not to install the
excess technology and just install Homesite+.

 Just my lone opinion here - if the team the evolves HS are 
 the same team that evolves DW, it's two different mind sets 
 being forced into one team, which dilutes the potential 
 quality of where HS can go so to me that detracts from it
 even more.

I don't think that the people developing Homesite+ are the same people
working on Dreamweaver MX. I wouldn't be surprised if Homesite+ is still
written in Delphi.

I do think that, in the future, Homesite+ may disappear, as Dreamweaver
becomes more suitable for people currently using Homesite+. I don't think
that's a bad thing, either. To me, it makes sense for Macromedia to build
one really good editor rather than two mediocre ones.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread jon hall
Friday, September 12, 2003, 12:26:07 PM, you wrote:

RB Yeah?  With all the MX family, CF is just one to many...  In an 
RB unofficial quote it was stated here on this list that apparently the vast 
RB majority of CF developers use the free version and therefor the revenue is 
RB not there.   This came up during our recent pleas to optimize the CF Tag 
RB gallery for the CF community rather and  the reason it is the way it is has 
RB to do with the fact that the majority of users are made up of all the MM 
RB client base, which dwarfs the CF base.

Speaking of the tag gallery

If they aren't going to change the tag gallery, they should document
and expose the web services that power it. Then we could put up our
best efforts. Bet we could put those MM guys to shame!

Heck...with the new editable DW start page stuff, we could presumably
bring the tag gallery right into DW.

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Re:grouping a query on date

2003-09-12 Thread lee
Well, it's a hack, but append a lead 0 to each element that needs it (month and day) 
and then take the RIGHT two chars to construct the field

i.e. 
month = June (6)  -  06
month = Dec (12) -  012

Do a right on each to get 06 and 12

That's why I hate Access. Just a pain in the ass for this stuff

Use this to either construct a string

Same problem as with month(): how can I format the string to mmdd?

If only I could say datepart('mm', moment), but it won't take it.

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How to test for existence of XML element?

2003-09-12 Thread Jamie Jackson
I'm trying to convert an XML document object to a query, but I'm
getting stuck when I'm doing my QuerySetCell()s. If the element
doesn't exist in that node, it bombs. However, I don't know how to
test for the existence of the element, since isDefined() doesn't work
on them (e.g. isDefined(MyNotes.Notes.Page[i].XmlAttributes['name']
bombs).

Code sample follows.

Thanks,
Jamie

cfscript
  // set notesAry to array of page elements (which are basically
notes elements).
  notesAry = MyNotes.Notes.XmlChildren;
  // number of notes found in the file
  numOfNotes = ArrayLen(notesAry);
  // initialize notesQuery, which will contain notes data from xml
file
  notesQuery = QueryNew(name, pageName, queryString, timeStamp,
note);
  // add as many records to the notesQuery as there are notes in the
xml file
  QueryAddRow(notesQuery, #numOfNotes#);
  /cfscript
cfloop index=i from = 1 to = #numOfNotes#
  cfscript
   QuerySetCell(notesQuery, name, 
  #MyNotes.Notes.Page[i].XmlAttributes['name']#, #i#);
   QuerySetCell(notesQuery, pageName, 
  #MyNotes.Notes.Page[i].XmlAttributes['pageName']#, #i#);   
   QuerySetCell(notesQuery, 'queryString', 
  #MyNotes.Notes.Page[i].XmlAttributes[queryString]#, #i#); 
   QuerySetCell(notesQuery, 'time_Stamp', 
  #MyNotes.Notes.Page[i].XmlAttributes['time_Stamp']#, #i#);
   QuerySetCell(notesQuery, note, 
  #MyNotes.Notes.Page[i].note.XmlText#, #i#);
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RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Raymond Camden
 Speaking of the tag gallery
 
 If they aren't going to change the tag gallery, they should 
 document and expose the web services that power it. Then we 
 could put up our best efforts. Bet we could put those MM guys 
 to shame!
 


That's been requested for ages. Heck, I think I even offered to write
one a while back. MACR, is there _any_ update on exposing the tag
gallery to outsiders? Please? Pretty please? Etc? :) I'm almost tempted
to replicate cflib.org for customtags. ;)


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Anyone know of a decent SQL ide?

2003-09-12 Thread Chris
Hi everyone,

I am searching for a good SQL IDE.  I currently use Query Analyzer, but
would really like to find something a bit more robust.  Since most of you
guys also write SQL, I figured this would be the best place to ask.  

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,
Chris

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RE: Anyone know of a decent SQL ide?

2003-09-12 Thread Mike Brunt
Chris, check out Aqua Data Studio, we have a link to it here.

http://www.webapper.net/index.cfm?fuseaction=Fuseblog.ShowCommentsArticleID=20030904071557

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt

Original Message ---
Hi everyone,

I am searching for a good SQL IDE.  I currently use Query Analyzer, but
would really like to find something a bit more robust.  Since most of you
guys also write SQL, I figured this would be the best place to ask.  

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,
Chris


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Re: grouping a query on date

2003-09-12 Thread Claude Schneegans
Ok, convert character, add a leading zero, take the rightmost two characters.

Well, I know this, question was HOW? ;-)

Thanks.

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Re: Anyone know of a decent SQL ide?

2003-09-12 Thread Jim Campbell
This was suggested yesterday, but try out AquaData Studio from 
www.aquafold.com

- Jim

Chris wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am searching for a good SQL IDE.  I currently use Query Analyzer, but
would really like to find something a bit more robust.  Since most of you
guys also write SQL, I figured this would be the best place to ask.  

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,
Chris


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Re: Repost: SQL Help

2003-09-12 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Patricia G.L.Hall wrote:
 
 A patient's records are stored throughout many tables in the db.  For 
 the most part it is one row per patient record.  Sometimes, in some 
 tables, there can be multiple records per patient record.
 
 I have to flatten the patient record into a text file.  The format the 
 text file takes is spec'ed out by a third party and it is what I have 
 to conform to.  It turns out that this text file does not expect there 
 to be multiple records per patient record... ever.
 
 So I have to query the database and deal with the cases where I have 
 multiple records, but I have to flatten them into one.
 
 I can think of two ways to do it in theory... but I don't know how to 
 make it work in SQL in practice.
 
 1) Somehow cause the query to only return the  Top 1 record per primary 
 key.  That wold be acceptable, but I have no idea if its a legal idea.
 
 2) Somehow, through subqueries, aggregate the multiple values when they 
 appear.  That is what I was attempting to do in the question I 
 originally posted.  The Case statement works fine unless I hit a record 
 with multiple rows.  It returns both rows and that violates my 
 parameters.

For arguments sake, say you have 1 record for a patient, and 3 
X-ray records for that patient because there are 3 X-ray photo's. 
Which X-ray record do you want to send to the third party? A 
random one, the last one? Or do you just want to send a boolean 
indicating there is a number of X-ray records?


 From your code I get the impression you just want to send the 
boolean, so I will give an example of that based on your original 
post:

SELECT
et.caseid,
SUM(
CASE etp.protocolid
WHEN 12 THEN 1
ELSE 0
END
)
FROM
etprocedure et LEFT JOIN eTransferProtocolLink etp ON 
etp.etProcedureid = et.etProcedureid
GROUP BY
et.caseid

(This will not really return a boolean, it will return the number 
of records but CF will be able to interpret it as a boolean. Use 
another CASE statement if you really want a boolean.)

Jochem



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Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?

2003-09-12 Thread Massimo, Tiziana e Federica
 I don't think that the people developing Homesite+ are the same people
 working on Dreamweaver MX. I wouldn't be surprised if Homesite+ is still
 written in Delphi.

Yes, it's still written in Delphi.


Massimo Foti
Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
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Re:calling all users of PostgreSQL on Windows

2003-09-12 Thread lee
Well, we're of the same mind.

If you're tied to Windoze, MS SQL is a great database, for my money. Perfect? No. But 
what is?

If you do get to running some Linux etc, Postgres rocks. Good luck.

Thanks Lee

Yup I already investigated the MySQL route.and simply puit...it ain't no
database if it doesn't have SPs,views. triggers, proper referential
integrity etc. ;-)

If PostgreSQL isn't ready for Windows in production then I'm going the MSDE
routeit will cost the client a couple extra bucks to get an MSDE licence
via Office (or the other ways you can get through MS licensing issues).  BTW
this will be a co-lo box so at least the shared hosting available technology
restrictions do not come into play ;-)

Cheers

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Subject: Re:calling all users of PostgreSQL on Windows


 OK Bryan -

 You say you're an OSS newbie. That's fine; we all were once.

 Why Postgres? Personally, I virtually always use Postgres when I can, but
there is another OSS database available (well, a bunch, but it often comes
down to Postgres vs): mySQL.

 Up front, let me say that I'm not a fan of mySQL. To me, mySQL = Access;
Postgres = Oracle (roughly, in both cases).

 But there are time when you just need Access. Here's a quick hit list of
the pros and cons of each (my opinions, but backed by experience and
reading):

 POSTGRES Pros:
 - Robust, scalable
 - ACID compliant
 - ANSI 92 compliant; contains a plethora of functions that make life
easier
 - Fast (used to be a dog; in v7.1 and up, much faster - see Tim Perdue's
articles as www.phpbuilder.net)
 - Excellent security model
 - Many tuning options

 POSTGRES Cons:
 - More complex (including set up)
 - Lack of GUI tools (I have not found one I like yet; I do all my PSQL
from the command line)
 - Overkill in some cases - Just like you would not install Oracle for
Bob's Pet Shoppe Web site, Postgres is sometimes unnecessary
 - Not really cross-platform yet. Hopefully in 2004.

 MYSQL Pros:
 - Trivial set up
 - Fast, at least for selects (main Web Server use)
 - Cross platform; runs well on *NIX or Windows. Big plus
 - Some good GUI tools out there (I use SQLYog; which I like a lot)
 - It's improving rapidly - the cons outlined below may go away shortly

 MYSQL Cons:
 - You can outgrow it quickly (the locking mechanism is particularily
troublesome; can take a real performance hit on high-traffic sites
 - Weird, proprietary SQL
 - No subselects (my biggest complaint)
 - No transactions! (with the innoDB extension you can get transactions,
but that's not currently a native solution, I believe)

 Like the platform wars, a lot of folks take the mySQL vs. Postgres
comparison as a war; I view them as two tools.

 Pick the best one, but be aware of the costs/benefits of each.

 RE: Cost, as in $$: Yep, both are free, with some businesses offering
bundles for cost (as RedHat does with Linux etc).

 One other note: For clients that are going to have a NON-dedicated server:
It's almost impossible to find hosting for Postgres. Everyone has mySQL;
very few with Postgres, and it's usually a managed business solution that
is expensive. It's the chicken and the egg thing: Everyone has mySQL, so
it's cheap; few have Postgres and it's not cheap, so they don't run it...


 
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