Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
On Jul 14, 2004, at 8:54 PM, Spike wrote: Barney are the first people to say that Eclipse is slow on that platform. Sean C. also mentioned this. Did he? I thought he said cfeclipse was slow, or rather that it ate up his CPU. That was an issue with the internal browser and has been fixed in the latest code. Appologies if I mis-represented him. He did say that CFEclipse was slow but didn't differentiate between the plugin Eclipse in general.I can't speak for Sean (and wouldn't attempt to) but he prolly had an experience with Eclipse/CFeclipse similar to mine -- early versions of either/both were slow -- why waste the time, move on 'til later when things are more mature. To compare, I have 2 Eclipse windows, side by side with no overlap both are visible. I'm curious why you have 2 windows open side by side. Pretty standard way of doing things on the Mac (at least for me).But, specifically: 1) I am learning Java 2) I am fiddling with JAI 3) I am trying to learn Eclipse CFEclipse 4) I am writing Java classes that are called by CFCs that are invoked by a CFM Template 5) I have a 23 display and a 17 display It is faster to switch windows than to switch perspectives It is easier to copy/paste (I've only ever written 1 program -- everything else is a copy/paste derivitive of that of that) In most Mac apps you can drag and drop files (or selected portions of files) between windows In general, on the Mac, you pay little overhead for multiple windows in an application -- only the active window uses resources. Seriously, I have 3 active browsers, (FireFox, Mozilla and Safari) each with several windowsSafari currently has 17 windows. So, I am taking 3 different Java tutorials.I find an example in one that I want to try. 1) I select the Java Source in the browser window, then drag and drop it into a BBEdit window, save run I can do the same (drag and drop) CLI commands to a Terminal window, etc) You can do this all with copy/paste, but DD is easier/quicker. In Summary, (Mac) windows are resources, the more the better )at least for the way I do things). I don't think that's how Eclipse is intended to be used unless I've misunderstood you. Given that I've never used Eclipse on a mac that's entirely possible. I think Eclipse is supposed to be used as a single window instance inside which you perform all the tasks for any project. Well, I am still learning.I usually have 3 Eclipse windows open: 1) CVS Repos 2) Java projects 3) CFML projects 2) typing/selecting/manipulation of content feels like you are wearing mittens or have spilled a Diet Pepsi on the mouse keyboard Text selection does tend to be slow in Eclipse. I think that's partly because Java isn't the best language in the world when it comes to dealing with strings. Jeeze... If Dave Winer taught me anything it is this:What people do is make lists (and lists are strings) ergo, If Java can't do strings, Java can't do what people do! Maybe String should have been a primitive type instead of an object? Dick We should be taught not to wait for inspiration to start a thing. Action always generates inspiration. Inspiration seldom generates action. - Frank Tibolt - [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
Wrong. CFE has always had a cfml perspective. That was pointed out in the comments on that blog entry (which is why I specifically mentioned the comments were interesting). It isn't the default perspective after installing CFE and, unless you're familiar with the way Eclipse works, it isn't obvious how to change that at first. Quoting from one of my posts in the comments: OK, I found the CFML perspective in CFEclipse. Yes, that makes the workspace much better since it surfaces the snip tree view and the CFC methods view. That is just plain non-sense. First you can just close the view if you want - making it a cleaner (read less work put into it) interface. Again, assuming you are familiar enough with how Eclipse works. It's obvious how to minimize / maximize views but not obvious at first how to makes views go away altogether (or how to restore them later). Yes, I figured it out after a while but this all goes to how Eclipse + CFE behaves out of the box vs how He3 behaves out of the box - CFE relies on users knowing a fair bit about Eclipse, He3 doesn't (or at least doesn't rely as much on it). A lot of CFers who've tried Eclipse say they don't like how complex it is (or appears to be) - it definitely takes some getting used to. CFEclipse has preferences - it always has. Again, read the comments where Spike points out how to find the CFE prefs and I respond Preferences. Thanx. I was looking for a dedicated CFEclipse preference section (like He3 has) so I didn't notice that. I can now set the insight delay to match what I have on He3!. It's another Eclipse complexity that is just easier to find in He3. Again this is silly - it's one line of code - a good thing about cfe is that it does number coloring?! Do you even write cf code Sean? Er, yeah, quite a bit actually... So even when I praise CFE (it's color-coding is better than He3's) I still get flamed? The comparison needs revisiting when He3 have fixed their color-coding of course but right now it's much easier to read code in CFE. There are key bindings that go with those that, of course, but you didn't even look for them (because they are with all the other key bindings in Eclipse) Right, so not knowing Eclipse, I wouldn't know where to look - if CFE had all its prefs in one place in a separate prefs group, I'd probably have found that and been happier. Having said that, I don't use shortcuts for snippets anyway in DW (set it up, tried it, found I was still usually quicker at just typing code instead of typing a mixture of code and special keystrokes... years of writing code with 'vi' is to blame for that I suspect). date inserter that inserts the date to where your cursor is in the file Er, I never insert the date into a file... Why would I need to? Can anyone say re-invent the wheel? There are at least 2 other plug ins for eclipse that do just that. Ease of use - He3 bundles a bunch of useful stuff that works well together whereas you're recommending that I spend time locating plugins and evaluating them to see which one suits me best. Again, it's the Eclipse-is-complex-and-I-need-to-learn-it-to-be-productive thing. If I can be productive without spending a lot of time and effort 'building' my IDE, I'm going to be happier. So you advocate duplication of effort - grand. You really like that the *CFML* focused he3 authors spend their time making regex views - okey dokey. I don't care if *they* have to duplicate effort if it helps me expend less effort. I don't want my IDE to be a pain to set up right and I don't want to have to go out to a bunch of sites and review endless extensions etc just to get something that another IDE has already. Even with DW, I only have two extensions installed - a TOC generator and, more recently, a CFC bean wizard. I've been using DW for years and only accrued those two. I guess I'm just not into customizing my IDE like some folks. And again, should your CFML editor be good at CFML or Fusebox XML? Obviously I'd prefer it be good at both :) While we are planning on framework support, don't you think it makes more sense to have a fusebox or mach-ii plug in? No. I want it built-in. See above. I'm a lazy ass when it comes to my IDE! :) Some people don't care about fusebox or mach-ii, and architecturally it doesn't belong in the core of CFML tools - it goes a layer above it. For me, Mach II support is *core* for my CFML IDE. HomeSite+ lets you import a DTD and provides code assist against it. So does DW. He3 goes a couple of steps beyond that and, for me, that's a very important advantage. However, I am more saddened that you seem so biased, and obviously didn't even give cfeclipse a real try. I've given it several tries so far and will keep trying it. As I pointed out in my response to Spike, it's really hard to use an IDE for real when it eats up CPU and chokes your machine :( It's not like I've uninstalled CFE or anything... I wouldn't mind if you didn't like it for real
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
...shades of vi vs. emacs... At the risk of stirring up even more sh**, I would like to put forward that, perhaps, if everyone (RichPalette and CFE both) were to put aside any personal animosities and just stick to their respective work that everyone might be happier. I seem to have drawn a great deal of aggro from the CFE folks - with whom I've had no direct contact or even email - just by virtue of being a contributing member of the RichPalette venture.I cannot imagine what I have *ever* said or done to inspire such venom. If He3 sucks in comparison to CFE everyone will see that.If there are viable features in He3, then people will see that as well. Either way people will response according to their individual needs. How about *friendly* competition? Frankly, I find that just trying keeping up on the latest nasty-gram is tiring.This doesn't have to be such a pissing match. White flags everyone? rish [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
There aren't much good IDE's on the market for ColdFusion. Macromedia unfortunately f*cked up CF Studio, and came with a replacement in the name of DWMX, which is kinda frustrating. 1: often crashes 2: treeview works only 60%, missing icons, bad reloads with copy paste, etc. 3: reference in 150px by 150px, not being able to print or select the text at all 4: collapsible code... erm.. not.. 5: The welcoming screen often keeps hanging on 1400px resolutions. No way you can get it to go away 6: minimize, maximize of the screen makes your cpu cry 7: The search is in 1 word, useless. Within the results no directory path is shown, so the file you click in the search could be customer a or customer b, when you do a folder search. Especially when you are working with frameworks and overriding (which I do often) 8: Clicking un unregistered fileformat with DWMX from within the DWMX treeview pops op u message Unsupported by Dreamweaver this also happens with *.txt files. CF Studio never had the guts to tell me this and just opened the file like I asked it to. 9: The context sensitive search is case sensitive, this is totally... useless when you make a code selection and want to see the properties in a blink. I haven't tried CFEclipse yet, have it downloaded but I should give it a try I suppose. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Tuning DB connections?
Preferebly yes, but my situation is a bit to dynamic to cache those sets with application and server variables, sessions would be totally madness with the amount of visitors I serve with the system. Maybe I should give you some more background info: The system is a content management solution and we sell it on a ASP basis, this is the 4th edition. Everybody using the system uses the same files, in a shared file root, and has the ability to override those files when files with the same name are found in their own custom directories. Currently on the 4th edition, +/- 150 customers are using this system. A change in the administration interface, or in the framework is instantly available for all customers (unless the files are overridden for a customer). This means that queries executed in the framework are very dynamic, because all customers use the same templates. Every customer has its own application name defined in sessionmanagement, so It is an option to cache the recordsets on a application.recordset basis, but not on a server basis. You don't want the chance to mix up recordsets between customers on the same system (for example WHERE pageid=1). The templates in the system (homepage.cfm, subpage.cfm , etc) consist out of pre-specified stored procedures, all the same for all customers. The stored procedures are like get child pages, get articles, etc. A basic page consists out of 2 stored procedures, one to draw the page navigation (get childnodes with objecttype page) and one to get the content elements (get childnodes with objecttype article/poll/snippet/etc on placeholder X). But there are pages which have their content based on the childnodes from another page, like showing a list of recent press articles. When all combined, you would fire up an amount of about 10 stored procedures (and the system currently handles +/- 250 req/sec). This is why I am trying to minimize the delays to a minimum. One or two stored procedures with a delay who cares, but When the amount of stored procedures rise, you also see a rise in the total delay, which seems unnecessary. I could ofcourse return all stored procedures encapsulated in one stored procedure and then use cfstoredproc icw resultset to pick one of the many resultsets returned (and so minimize database round trips) but those are last resorts. :-) Caching recordsets could be an option, but that would be done in the application scope. This is however very difficult, because the queries are most of the time to dynamic. If you have a query which always returns the same records based on a vast call, that would be very easy, but I also must make the application variable name, variable corresponding the sql code to determine what application variable corresponds to what recordset. :-) .. ok... coffee now.. :-) Micha Schopman Software Engineer Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 ALAmersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
| ...shades of vi vs. emacs... That's where I vote VIM as my CF editor of choice... (still the only one using that?) A cool thing, that you can't do with any of the other editors mentioned -- I can telnet/SSH into our servers (Solaris Windows) and use the same editor as on my desktop (with almost the same setup) to do the urgent editing on any files... ### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: CFCs - more smaller or fewer bigger ones?
| -Original Message- | From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 16:19 | But this means you have to document your CFC's carefully. | When you modify a CFC later on, you want to make sure you are | not breaking other code in the system, so it is a good | behavior to document dependencies of the CFC in a document, | so you can easily see CFC 2 and CFC 3 are used by CFC 1. Sounds like a good case for unit testing: http://www.cfcunit.org/ ### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: CFForm, CFInput, etc not xhtml compatible!
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 16:31 | Just curious, what's the big advantage of XHTML compatible? | You can perform XSLT on xhtml pages... which according to the | XSLT cookbook (O'Reilly) for more details on how this is | going to be very handy in the future | | Some examples off the top of my head | - XSL template to change specific XHTML elements | - Prefilling XHTML forms without server side intervention | - Will make future programming tasks easier To add -- forces full separation of presentation/content (i.e. css and xhtml). ### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: CFMX is crashing daily with no hints in the log
Two things to do: * Capture all output from the executable (stdout/stderr) * Consider trying an alternative JVM ### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Releasing client to do another process?
I think the Iframe solution is a bit clunky (if output is not necessary) -- it seems unnecessary to do a round trip to the client to do this. I would consider using cfhttp/curl/wget to call the desired template instead. -- Hugo Ahlenius - Hugo AhleniusE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project Officer Phone:+46 8 230460 UNEP GRID-ArendalFax:+46 8 230441 Stockholm OfficeMobile:+46 733 467111 WWW: http://www.grida.no - | -Original Message- | From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 17:36 | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: Releasing client to do another process? | | Actually your first option would, indeed, complete the | process - it just couldn't return information to the browser | when done. | | | | A CF Process keeps going until it ends or times out - only | then does it return back to the web server which in turn | tries to return to the browser. | If the browser isn't waiting any longer then you get an error | in your logs, but the process did complete. | | | | Jim Davis | | | | From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:27 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: Releasing client to do another process? | | | | This is actually very simple, | | 1: Create a page, and within create an iframe 100% high and | wide. Call, | parent.doSomething() from the iframe to call the _javascript_ | function in the page where the iframe is. | This does not complete the process if the user closes the | window! Only if it browses to another place. | 2: Create a scheduled task, and run this task immediately. | When the task is finished remove it. This task is not | dependant on the browser window clientside. If you need | session vars etc. in your task, pass them to the task as | parameters, or find a way to overcome this. | | | | | | | | [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: StructKeyExists() vs IsDefined()
| From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 18:52 | So whats the best thing to do when the same code has to run | on both platforms?Sounds like I'm stuck with isdefined. But the penalty of using isDefined would still not be that high, right? Compared to queries etc ### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: CFCs - more smaller or fewer bigger ones?
Correct, that is the main purpose of unit testing. Is the unit capable of handling the input and output as documented, without puking over bad calls :-) That is why it is so important to document. Especially when working with other teams depending on your API. Unit testing is extremily important when making an API. Micha Schopman Software Engineer Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 ALAmersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
My 2 cents I use textpad with added tools (Dreamweaver and CFStudio), I start out the day editing in textpad as on this machine it pretty well flies and when I get stuck on some code completion or my brain needs caffeine I just hit the external too, (CFS first!) and do some editing. if there are some CFC's that need fiddling with I hit the next button and open up DWMX to do the editing (after waiting a while for it to load!) I have eclipse but it does remind me of my *shiver* Java days, but I thought I would use CFeclipse today to see what all the fuss is all about. At the end of the day they are all text editors if you are in the zone, that is.. when you dont need code complete and the code is flowing. When I get a bit stuck I then turn to mr code complete by hitting my escape (or CFS) button MD [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
I said I wasn't going to post anymore about cfe and I wont after I clear the air I promise... (Please take everything I say about the project direction from a past standpoint as I am not steering anymore) On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:02:47 -0700, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wrong. CFE has always had a cfml perspective. That was pointed out in the comments on that blog entry (which is why I specifically mentioned the comments were interesting). It isn't the default perspective after installing CFE and, unless you're familiar ... Again, assuming you are familiar enough with how Eclipse works. It's obvious how to minimize / maximize views but not obvious at first how to makes views go away altogether (or how to restore them later). Yes, I figured it out after a while but this all goes to how Eclipse + CFE behaves out of the box vs how He3 behaves out of the box - CFE relies on users knowing a fair bit about Eclipse, He3 doesn't (or at least doesn't rely as much on it). A lot of CFers who've tried Eclipse say they don't like how complex it is (or appears to be) - it definitely takes some getting used to. I think the main disconnect is that he3 is a product by a company - CFEclipse is a free plug-in for eclipse - nothing more.CFEclipse is not a product with an installer and a group of plug ins to make things easy for install.We try to help people out getting started with eclipse, we show them where to find good plug ins, but its not a product like he3 is attempting to be. So most of the bad points you had in your blog were not even what the project is about. We have talked about maybe bundling some plug ins and making a product, but that's not what cfeclipse is about. It would be like me comparing the windows os with a com object and saying the com object wouldn't boot by it's self out of the box so it sucks, but even though the windows os crashes it boots up by itself so it wins. I would've thought it more of a fair comparison to talk about the general day to day tools usage stuff like spike and you discussed in a previous post. CFEclipse has preferences - it always has. Again, read the comments where Spike points out how to find the CFE prefs and I respond Preferences. Thanx. I was looking for a dedicated CFEclipse preference section (like He3 has) so I didn't notice that. I can now set the insight delay to match what I have on He3!. It's another Eclipse complexity that is just easier to find in He3. Integration vs branding - one of the my original goals (albeit unspoken), was to try in our little way to help move cfml more into the enterprise. Eclipse is big with larger shops (mostly because it's forced on people under the name WASD) so it makes sense to integrate it seamlessly with eclipse - not brand it and stand out - but we have since changed directions. Again this is silly - it's one line of code - a good thing about cfe is that it does number coloring?! Do you even write cf code Sean? Er, yeah, quite a bit actually... I know you do I was beinga dick :) So even when I praise CFE (it's color-coding is better than He3's) I still get flamed? The comparison needs revisiting when He3 have fixed their color-coding of course but right now it's much easier to read code in CFE. It just the fact thatwe have put many hours in this (http://code.daemon.com.au/cgi-bin/cvsmonitor/cvsmonitor.pl?cmd=viewBrowseModulemodule=cfeclipse.cfeclipse), and made feature that don't exist anywhere and the only ataboy we get is the color coding which is not that hard. You roll up in you new car and I say... nice bolt on the wheel there. date inserter that inserts the date to where your cursor is in the file Er, I never insert the date into a file... Why would I need to? To mark when you did something - some people don'tuse cvs or vss (though they should) -I now just do it out of habit (though I don't when I write java... um... ) Can anyone say re-invent the wheel? There are at least 2 other plug ins for eclipse that do just that. Ease of use - He3 bundles a bunch of useful stuff that works well See above And again, should your CFML editor be good at CFML or Fusebox XML? Obviously I'd prefer it be good at both :) What I mean is cfeclipse does cfml - fuseboxeclipse does fusebox3 specific stuff (vaporware) etc. You for example probably don't give a rip if it does fusebox while I know you dig mach-ii So you wouldn't install the fusebox plug in While we are planning on framework support, don't you think it makes more sense to have a fusebox or mach-ii plug in? No. I want it built-in. See above. I'm a lazy ass when it comes to my IDE! :) hehehe, well built in could mean different plug ins in the same ide. cfeclipse does... cfml. If we do bundle a product we'll bundle it with any framework plug ins - so it'll look built in as far as you'll know Some people don't care about fusebox or mach-ii, and architecturally it doesn't belong in the core
Array cell name as dynamic left-hand-side of an assignment
This works (assignment to an explicitly named array cell): cfset ary = ArrayNew(3) cfset ary[1][1][1] = 99 This works (assignment to a dynamically referenced scalar variable): cfset scl = scalar cfset #scl# = 99 This (assignment to a dynamically referenced array cell) throws an error: cfset ary = ArrayNew(3) cfset tst = ary[1][1][1] cfset #tst# = 99 It says: The string ary[1][1][1] is not a valid ColdFusion variable name. Well, clearly that's incorrect, because it works in the first example. I guess array cells are a special case. I'm trying to find a way of assigning values to arbitrary cells in an array with an arbitrary number of dimensions. Is there a way round this or should I just store the data in nested structs instead? TIA Nick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
Guy Rish wrote: ...shades of vi vs. emacs... IDE wars are always fun, aren't they? Guy, you get nothing but agreement from me - white flags between CFE He3 please (mainly CFE people though). Inevitable that we're gonna clash, but the truth is in the product not the posts. Those that have ranted on CFE's side, why not write more code? It must've taken a while to write the posts. How many lines of code could you have done?... As CFE Project Leader I recommend that any user try JEdit, Homesite, Dreamweaver, Notepad, CFE, He3, etc. Play around, use what you like. If conveniently you like CFE that's cool, if not, that is also cool (though we'd love to know _why_ you don't like it). To mention what I use, for projects I use CFEclipse (becuase I help write it), Textpad for random files, Notepad on Windows remote servers and emacs on *nix remote servers. Btw, I have to admit that PrimalScript was quite cool until the eval period ran out :D Btw, cheers to Dave for the mention of Notepad2 - I suspect it will be appearing on all of my Windows servers! To quote a popular UK TV comedy sketch program from a while ago calm down now, calm down. -- Oliver Tupman CFEclipse Project Leader http://cfeclipse.tigris.org [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 01:36:45 -0500, Guy Rish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: were to put aside any personal animosities and just stick to their respective work that everyone might be happier. I seem to have drawn a great deal of aggro from the CFE folks To be fair the only person on the cfeclipse team that has ever bad mouthed he3 or any of its participantswas me - Spike and Oliver have never said a negative word about any project. - with whom I've had no direct contact or even email - just by virtue of being a contributing member of the RichPalette venture.I cannot imagine what I have *ever* said or done to inspire such venom. I don't know you Guy so I can not attest to your character - I have never met you nor had a conversionwith you before this moment. I also haven't made a bad comment about you personally ever. I dislike your business partner for many reasons - all of which are not appropriate here. How about *friendly* competition? Frankly, I find that just trying keeping up on the latest nasty-gram is tiring.This doesn't have to be such a pissing match. I gave up driving cfeclipse for a couple reasons, one of which is I dislike your business parter so much being in directcompetition with him was putting me in too close of quarters with him. I am sure with Oliver at the wheel you'll see a steep drop off in the venom. White flags everyone? I have no qualm with you (aside from the fact you are helping Matt) -- ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~open source XML database~ http://ashpool.sourceforge.net [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
Hey, sorry..coming in late to this one...damn timzones. I started to use Eclipse 3.0 (with CF plugin) and must say that I haven't opened up HS+ since.I installed and looked at He3 (strange choice of name...dunno what it has to do with a Helium Isotope...) and was not impressed for many reasons...firstly it will be a paid for install which considering its just mainly Eclipse there is nothing to entice me their It also doesn't have anywhere near the features that CFEclipse has (at present). I find Eclipse works very well when you have tweaked a few things like Memory management.I am not sure the whole He3 v CFEclipse is and argument which should be geared toward the best IDE as they are both plugins to the actual Eclipse project itself.and I think that no one can really argue that at present the latter is the better choice - certainly from a feature perspective. _ From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 July 2004 00:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... I've had a lot of people comment to me via email and MSN that you appear to have set out to see He3 favourably and cfeclipse unfavourably. Given that you don't even appear to have tried to use cfeclipse for day to day coding I think that opinion is at least partly justified. Most of the things in your blog relate only to initial impressions, not to how good the tool is on a day to day basis for a developer. IMO that would be a far more important comparison for the average person. Then again, I'm hardly an impartial observer, so maybe I'm being unfair :) Spike Stephen Milligan Code poet for hire http://www.spike.org.uk Do you cfeclipse? http://cfeclipse.tigris.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Corfield Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 2:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... I wasn't going to comment but... *grin* Well, in that case I'll point folks to my blog post comparing He3 and CFEclipse: http://www.corfield.org/blog/past/2004_07.html#000496 Lots of interesting comments on it too... _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
Also, as Nick pointed out ...I clarify below...I mean that without doubt CFEclipse is by far the better choice for CFML capability in Eclipse. I am not sure the whole He3 v CFEclipse is and argument which should be geared toward the best IDE as they are both plugins to the actual Eclipse project itself.and I think that no one can really argue that at present the latter is the better choice - certainly from a feature perspective. _ From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 July 2004 09:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 01:36:45 -0500, Guy Rish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: were to put aside any personal animosities and just stick to their respective work that everyone might be happier. I seem to have drawn a great deal of aggro from the CFE folks To be fair the only person on the cfeclipse team that has ever bad mouthed he3 or any of its participantswas me - Spike and Oliver have never said a negative word about any project. - with whom I've had no direct contact or even email - just by virtue of being a contributing member of the RichPalette venture.I cannot imagine what I have *ever* said or done to inspire such venom. I don't know you Guy so I can not attest to your character - I have never met you nor had a conversionwith you before this moment. I also haven't made a bad comment about you personally ever. I dislike your business partner for many reasons - all of which are not appropriate here. How about *friendly* competition? Frankly, I find that just trying keeping up on the latest nasty-gram is tiring.This doesn't have to be such a pissing match. I gave up driving cfeclipse for a couple reasons, one of which is I dislike your business parter so much being in directcompetition with him was putting me in too close of quarters with him. I am sure with Oliver at the wheel you'll see a steep drop off in the venom. White flags everyone? I have no qualm with you (aside from the fact you are helping Matt) -- ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~open source XML database~ http://ashpool.sourceforge.net _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: counting clicks on links - search engines
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 18:41:17 -0400, Andrew Grosset [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is: will the search engines follow that link to the final destination and would cflocation be best used or a meta refresh in the link_counter.cfm page? As I understand it, that won't work very well. Much of the benefit of link directories lies in the search engines counting how many other sites link to a particular site, to calculate the site's perceived importance. Search engine spiders wouldn't see your example link as a link to houseoffusion... they'd see it as a link to the same site. I believe cflocation sends a 301 moved header (I could be wrong, I always get 301 and 302 mixed up) so search engines might be hesitant to consider it a permanent link. Ditto with meta refresh... most spiders just won't bother following it. Here's how I'm planning on building a link directory for a tourism site I'm involved with: a href=""> > falseExample Site/a (onclick can be a function or whatever counting method you want) Spiders (and other _javascript_ disabled user agents) will follow the href link... other users will use the script and count the hit. It won't be perfect (ie, it won't count non-js agents) but I think it's a good alternative and is search engine friendly. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Using RegEx to strip any character that isn't a number
OK, I must be suffering a caffeine deficiency this morning as I just can't seem to get the following to do it's job. cfset QBarcode = rereplacenocase(QBarcode,[^0-9],,ALL) Should this not take the QBarcode field and return it to me with numbers only, ie: '1234567890123 becomes 1234567890123.The problem is mostly caused by a leading ' character used by excel to stop it trimming leading zeros from a barcode field, however the regex above is leaving the apostrophe untouched. Any ideas? -- James Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: BlueDragon .NET uninstall
BlueDragon hooks into IIS by mapping the .cfm extension to the Microsoft .NET Framework: - right-click on a web site and open the properties dialog (or open the Master Properties dialog) - go to the Home Directory tab - click the Configuration button - on the Mappings tab you'll see the extension mappings; it's the .cfm mapping we're worried about here; for BlueDragon.NET you'll see the mappings are to the .NET Framework You can either manually delete the .cfm mapping, or just uninstall BlueDragon.NET and it'll remove the mappings. Of course, in neither case will it restore the mappings back to CFMX. I'm not familiar enough with CFMX to tell you how to restore the .cfm mappings; maybe someone else on the list can chime in. But that's all that should be necessary to restore your CFMX server configuration (that's all that BlueDragon.NET modified that would affect CFMX). Apparently, you chose to install BlueDragon.NET on all web sites when prompted by the installer. It would be better to set up a separate web site for BlueDragon.NET testing and then install BD.NET only on that web site (which the installer allows you to do). We'll try to make this more clear in the future. Vince From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 11:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: BlueDragon .NET uninstall hey, i just installed the .NET tech preview of blue dragon, and now its parsing ALL of my .cfm requests, WTF, i didnt want that... how can i remove this? thanks. -- tony Tony Weeg human. email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/ Check out http://www.antiwrap.com to send websites to your friends. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
cfpop question
does anyone know how to find out how many messages are on a mail server before actually using cfpop to access the email information?Im building a web based email system.If the email account has an massive amount of messages on the server (spam and what not), the cfpop cant handle it and it ends up crashing the mail server and locking the email account.I wanna be able to find out how many messages and how big the messages are in total before i actually pop them so i can prevent this from happening.Any help would be appreciated.Thanks [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: cfpop question
CFPOP doesn't support just doing a STAT function... CFX_POP3 does. http://www.web-architect.co.uk/downloads.cfm Paul [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: cfpop question
You could try using the free tcpclient com object from intrafoundation (http://www.intrafoundation.com/tcpclient.asp) to open a telnet session and then issue the following commands... USER userid PASS password STAT And this will return something like +OK 3 345910 Which tells you it is holding 3 messages and a total of 345910 bytes. You can get other pop3 telnet command info here: http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/pop3telnet.htm -- Jay -Original Message- From: Chris Musial [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 July 2004 12:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: cfpop question does anyone know how to find out how many messages are on a mail server before actually using cfpop to access the email information?Im building a web based email system.If the email account has an massive amount of messages on the server (spam and what not), the cfpop cant handle it and it ends up crashing the mail server and locking the email account.I wanna be able to find out how many messages and how big the messages are in total before i actually pop them so i can prevent this from happening.Any help would be appreciated.Thanks [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Using RegEx to strip any character that isn't a number
It shouldn't. The only thing I can think of is that you are in a cfoutput/cfloop query and that QBarcode is one of your fields. If this is the case, the problem should disappear if you use the proper prefixes for your variables! Pascal -Original Message- From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 July 2004 13:16 To: CF-Talk Subject: Using RegEx to strip any character that isn't a number OK, I must be suffering a caffeine deficiency this morning as I just can't seem to get the following to do it's job. cfset QBarcode = rereplacenocase(QBarcode,[^0-9],,ALL) Should this not take the QBarcode field and return it to me with numbers only, ie: '1234567890123 becomes 1234567890123.The problem is mostly caused by a leading ' character used by excel to stop it trimming leading zeros from a barcode field, however the regex above is leaving the apostrophe untouched. Any ideas? -- James Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
ActivScan CFX Tag
I wonder if anyone on the list is familiar with a CFX component called ActivScan. The company I'm working for bought it and had it working on CF5 and apparently the upgrade to CFMX caused it to stop working. The company that produced ActivScan said CFMX didn't support some function and they couldn't do anything about it and then subsequently stopped producing or supporting ActiveScan. I've been asked to look at the C++ source they bought cheap when they discovered it wasn't being supported anymore to see if it can be fixed. I'm hoping it wasn't working due to something that's been changed between the initial release of CFMX and Red Sky and we can just upgrade to Red Sky and have it work. Thanks all, s. isaac dealey954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569DE=1 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Using RegEx to strip any character that isn't a number
DOH: The Qbarcode field is a query field, the second instance of it was correctly using the query scope but was then setting it in the variables scope, how stupid do I feel! Oh well, more caffeine then ;-) -- Jay -Original Message- From: Pascal Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 July 2004 13:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Using RegEx to strip any character that isn't a number It shouldn't. The only thing I can think of is that you are in a cfoutput/cfloop query and that QBarcode is one of your fields. If this is the case, the problem should disappear if you use the proper prefixes for your variables! Pascal -Original Message- From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 July 2004 13:16 To: CF-Talk Subject: Using RegEx to strip any character that isn't a number OK, I must be suffering a caffeine deficiency this morning as I just can't seem to get the following to do it's job. cfset QBarcode = rereplacenocase(QBarcode,[^0-9],,ALL) Should this not take the QBarcode field and return it to me with numbers only, ie: '1234567890123 becomes 1234567890123.The problem is mostly caused by a leading ' character used by excel to stop it trimming leading zeros from a barcode field, however the regex above is leaving the apostrophe untouched. Any ideas? -- James Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: ActivScan CFX Tag
what does it do, maybe someone knows of a substitute? -joe - Original Message - From: S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:09:45 -0400 Subject: ActivScan CFX Tag To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wonder if anyone on the list is familiar with a CFX component called ActivScan. The company I'm working for bought it and had it working on CF5 and apparently the upgrade to CFMX caused it to stop working. The company that produced ActivScan said CFMX didn't support some function and they couldn't do anything about it and then subsequently stopped producing or supporting ActiveScan. I've been asked to look at the C++ source they bought cheap when they discovered it wasn't being supported anymore to see if it can be fixed. I'm hoping it wasn't working due to something that's been changed between the initial release of CFMX and Red Sky and we can just upgrade to Red Sky and have it work. Thanks all, s. isaac dealey954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569DE=1 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: BlueDragon .NET uninstall
yeah, well now the server is completely hosed, reinstall of cfmx doesnt even work, and this sucks.you need to make that more clear to people, really. i shoulda known.you get what you pay for. On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 07:42:11 -0400, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BlueDragon hooks into IIS by mapping the .cfm extension to the Microsoft .NET Framework: - right-click on a web site and open the properties dialog (or open the Master Properties dialog) - go to the Home Directory tab - click the Configuration button - on the Mappings tab you'll see the extension mappings; it's the .cfm mapping we're worried about here; for BlueDragon.NET you'll see the mappings are to the .NET Framework You can either manually delete the .cfm mapping, or just uninstall BlueDragon.NET and it'll remove the mappings. Of course, in neither case will it restore the mappings back to CFMX. I'm not familiar enough with CFMX to tell you how to restore the .cfm mappings; maybe someone else on the list can chime in. But that's all that should be necessary to restore your CFMX server configuration (that's all that BlueDragon.NET modified that would affect CFMX). Apparently, you chose to install BlueDragon.NET on all web sites when prompted by the installer. It would be better to set up a separate web site for BlueDragon.NET testing and then install BD.NET only on that web site (which the installer allows you to do). We'll try to make this more clear in the future. Vince From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 11:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: BlueDragon .NET uninstall hey, i just installed the .NET tech preview of blue dragon, and now its parsing ALL of my .cfm requests, WTF, i didnt want that... how can i remove this? thanks. -- tony Tony Weeg human. email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/ Check out http://www.antiwrap.com to send websites to your friends. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: OT: BlueDragon .NET uninstall
heres what i did. 1. uninstall. 2. it removed the .cfm/.htm/.html mappings itself 3. i reinstalled cfmx to see if it would RESET the mappings, etcNO DICE tonight, ill uninstall EVERYTHING, and start over. i should have known this might happen.damn, this sucks. tw On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 01:11:58 -0400, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now im really fu**ed, this uninstall, then i reinstalled cfmx, and now im getting 500 internal server errors...do i just have to de-install, then re-install??man this sucks...wish i knew before i installed. I haven't installed BlueDragon .NET yet, but I imagine that it's hooked to IIS the same way that ASP.NET is - by ISAPI extensions set up within IIS. You should be able to remove those extensions within the IIS management console, then reconfigure them to CFMX. You shouldn't have to uninstall or reinstall anything to do this. You may want to use the JRun web server configuration tool to reconfigure the extensions for you, if you're not comfortable doing it manually. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Refresh after an hour?
I have a cf script that does a serious amount of data parsing... if the script runs for more than hour- actually after exactly one hour according to the timestamps on the records, the page seems to automatically refresh itself. Does anyone have an ideas on whether it is MX that is doing this or is it a browser or webserver thing? Thanks. Bob -- Need Web Hosting or Internet Services? Visit http://www.jaguNET.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: ActivScan CFX Tag
Oops... It lets people scan documents directly to the webserver from a scanner attached to their desktop. what does it do, maybe someone knows of a substitute? -joe - Original Message - From: S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:09:45 -0400 Subject: ActivScan CFX Tag To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wonder if anyone on the list is familiar with a CFX component called ActivScan. The company I'm working for bought it and had it working on CF5 and apparently the upgrade to CFMX caused it to stop working. The company that produced ActivScan said CFMX didn't support some function and they couldn't do anything about it and then subsequently stopped producing or supporting ActiveScan. I've been asked to look at the C++ source they bought cheap when they discovered it wasn't being supported anymore to see if it can be fixed. I'm hoping it wasn't working due to something that's been changed between the initial release of CFMX and Red Sky and we can just upgrade to Red Sky and have it work. Thanks all, s. isaac dealey954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569DE=1__ __ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: BlueDragon .NET uninstall
Tony Weeg wrote: yeah, well now the server is completely hosed, reinstall of cfmx doesnt even work, and this sucks.you need to make that more clear to people, really. Well, it *IS* a technology preview release, which means it's not even in the BETA stage yet.I hope you didn't install it on a production server. - Rick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: ActivScan CFX Tag
Google: http://www.cfdev.com/activescan/ $995 for code that doesn't work with no support and no refunds, are they having a laugh!!! -Original Message- From: Joe Rinehart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 July 2004 13:33 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ActivScan CFX Tag what does it do, maybe someone knows of a substitute? -joe - Original Message - From: S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:09:45 -0400 Subject: ActivScan CFX Tag To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wonder if anyone on the list is familiar with a CFX component called ActivScan. The company I'm working for bought it and had it working on CF5 and apparently the upgrade to CFMX caused it to stop working. The company that produced ActivScan said CFMX didn't support some function and they couldn't do anything about it and then subsequently stopped producing or supporting ActiveScan. I've been asked to look at the C++ source they bought cheap when they discovered it wasn't being supported anymore to see if it can be fixed. I'm hoping it wasn't working due to something that's been changed between the initial release of CFMX and Red Sky and we can just upgrade to Red Sky and have it work. Thanks all, s. isaac dealey954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569DE=1__ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Refresh after an hour?
Check your requesttimeout settings in CF as well as you Webserver :-) Micha Schopman Software Engineer Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 ALAmersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Refresh after an hour?
Bob, AFAIK, it can't be the server or MX - they can't push a new page out to your client. There could be something set in your page via a meta tag that would cause the page to refresh after an hour, but that would require the output buffer to have flushed that portion of the source to your browser. If the process is taking an hour, maybe CF isn't the best way to run it? -joe [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: OT: BlueDragon .NET uninstall
Why not just do the manual configuration like people suggested.It sounds like you're blowing up about something simple.To install something that you'd like to test on a production server before even testing on a dev server seems kinda crazy to me.Just go into IIS and reset the .cfm mappings to use CFMX. John -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 8:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: BlueDragon .NET uninstall heres what i did. 1. uninstall. 2. it removed the .cfm/.htm/.html mappings itself 3. i reinstalled cfmx to see if it would RESET the mappings, etcNO DICE tonight, ill uninstall EVERYTHING, and start over. i should have known this might happen.damn, this sucks. tw On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 01:11:58 -0400, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now im really fu**ed, this uninstall, then i reinstalled cfmx, and now im getting 500 internal server errors...do i just have to de-install, then re-install??man this sucks...wish i knew before i installed. I haven't installed BlueDragon .NET yet, but I imagine that it's hooked to IIS the same way that ASP.NET is - by ISAPI extensions set up within IIS. You should be able to remove those extensions within the IIS management console, then reconfigure them to CFMX. You shouldn't have to uninstall or reinstall anything to do this. You may want to use the JRun web server configuration tool to reconfigure the extensions for you, if you're not comfortable doing it manually. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: ActivScan CFX Tag
I have to ask... If that is what it does why do you need an CFX tag to do it?? Surely, the source code is split into two separate parts, one the Active X component that runs in the browser and secondly the code that runs on the server. It seems to me that the browser will be doing all the hard work and all the server side will be doing is handling the file upload part... If that is the case then it shouldn't be too difficult to get the CFX part re-worked or replaced with straight CFML Paul [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: ActivScan CFX Tag
redistributation? Thanks James -- guess I should go look these things up before I ask. :) Google: http://www.cfdev.com/activescan/ $995 for code that doesn't work with no support and no refunds, are they having a laugh!!! -Original Message- From: Joe Rinehart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 July 2004 13:33 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ActivScan CFX Tag what does it do, maybe someone knows of a substitute? -joe - Original Message - From: S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:09:45 -0400 Subject: ActivScan CFX Tag To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wonder if anyone on the list is familiar with a CFX component called ActivScan. The company I'm working for bought it and had it working on CF5 and apparently the upgrade to CFMX caused it to stop working. The company that produced ActivScan said CFMX didn't support some function and they couldn't do anything about it and then subsequently stopped producing or supporting ActiveScan. I've been asked to look at the C++ source they bought cheap when they discovered it wasn't being supported anymore to see if it can be fixed. I'm hoping it wasn't working due to something that's been changed between the initial release of CFMX and Red Sky and we can just upgrade to Red Sky and have it work. Thanks all, s. isaac dealey954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569DE=1_ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
This is really interesting. Do the majority of developers really spend precious time trying out dozens of different IDE's? I guess the subtle differences in IDE's never really seemed that important to me as they pertain to Cold Fusion, who's primary advantage still remains it's ease-of-use. Wasn't until I began using Visual Studio .NET that i began to appreciate the power of an IDE, but i think that owes as much to the complexity of the platform as anything else. - Original Message - From: Oliver Tupman To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 3:36 AM Subject: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... snip As CFE Project Leader I recommend that any user try JEdit, Homesite, Dreamweaver, Notepad, CFE, He3, etc. Play around, use what you like. If conveniently you like CFE that's cool, if not, that is also cool (though we'd love to know _why_ you don't like it). snip [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
I think it's a case of workflow...for example with Eclipse, I successfully worked through the day having only two applications open on my machine : Eclipse and Outlook 2003!You cant get that with many other IDE's.I am late on the scene with Eclipse and I cant see myself going back to anything else... _ From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 July 2004 14:02 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... This is really interesting. Do the majority of developers really spend precious time trying out dozens of different IDE's? I guess the subtle differences in IDE's never really seemed that important to me as they pertain to Cold Fusion, who's primary advantage still remains it's ease-of-use. Wasn't until I began using Visual Studio .NET that i began to appreciate the power of an IDE, but i think that owes as much to the complexity of the platform as anything else. - Original Message - From: Oliver Tupman To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 3:36 AM Subject: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... snip As CFE Project Leader I recommend that any user try JEdit, Homesite, Dreamweaver, Notepad, CFE, He3, etc. Play around, use what you like. If conveniently you like CFE that's cool, if not, that is also cool (though we'd love to know _why_ you don't like it). snip _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: BlueDragon .NET uninstall
Yes, you're right. We'll add a warning in the next version of the installers before overwriting any existing .cfm mappings. My apologies. Vince From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 8:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon .NET uninstall yeah, well now the server is completely hosed, reinstall of cfmx doesnt even work, and this sucks.you need to make that more clear to people, really. i shoulda known.you get what you pay for. On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 07:42:11 -0400, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BlueDragon hooks into IIS by mapping the .cfm extension to the Microsoft .NET Framework: - right-click on a web site and open the properties dialog (or open the Master Properties dialog) - go to the Home Directory tab - click the Configuration button - on the Mappings tab you'll see the extension mappings; it's the .cfm mapping we're worried about here; for BlueDragon.NET you'll see the mappings are to the .NET Framework You can either manually delete the .cfm mapping, or just uninstall BlueDragon.NET and it'll remove the mappings. Of course, in neither case will it restore the mappings back to CFMX. I'm not familiar enough with CFMX to tell you how to restore the .cfm mappings; maybe someone else on the list can chime in. But that's all that should be necessary to restore your CFMX server configuration (that's all that BlueDragon.NET modified that would affect CFMX). Apparently, you chose to install BlueDragon.NET on all web sites when prompted by the installer. It would be better to set up a separate web site for BlueDragon.NET testing and then install BD.NET only on that web site (which the installer allows you to do). We'll try to make this more clear in the future. Vince From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 11:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: BlueDragon .NET uninstall hey, i just installed the .NET tech preview of blue dragon, and now its parsing ALL of my .cfm requests, WTF, i didnt want that... how can i remove this? thanks. -- tony Tony Weeg human. email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/ Check out http://www.antiwrap.com to send websites to your friends. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: BlueDragon .NET uninstall
nope, my dev box, but its still frustrating :( arggh me On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:43:28 -0400, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Weeg wrote: yeah, well now the server is completely hosed, reinstall of cfmx doesnt even work, and this sucks.you need to make that more clear to people, really. Well, it *IS* a technology preview release, which means it's not even in the BETA stage yet.I hope you didn't install it on a production server. - Rick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RAD (was RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...)
This is really interesting. Do the majority of developers really spend precious time trying out dozens of different IDE's? I guess the subtle differences in IDE's never really seemed that important to me as they pertain to Cold Fusion, who's primary advantage still remains it's ease- of-use. You bring up an interesting point that I don't think many people have considered. Most people are comfortable with the notion that CFML is a RAD platform, while Java and .NET are not. Interestingly, both Java and .NET have great IDEs that seriously increase developer productivity. In other words, the IDE itself gives those respective platforms their RAD capabilities. So I guess if the CFML community ends up with a RAD IDE to go with the RAD language we will be really RAD! Sounds so 80's. ;) -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
I started to use Eclipse 3.0 (with CF plugin) and must say that I haven't opened up HS+ since.I installed and looked at He3 (strange choice of name...dunno what it has to do with a Helium Isotope...) http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/index.cfm?data=""> and was not impressed for many reasons...firstly it will be a paid for install which considering its just mainly Eclipse there is nothing to entice me their He3 is not a paid for install; it is freely available from our web site, while it is in beta. When it is released there will continue to be a free edition. It also doesn't have anywhere near the features that CFEclipse has (at present). At present, the public beta has less CFML-specific functionality than CFEclipse. However, remember that the currently available version of He3 is 0.7.4, while CFEclipse is at 1.1.14. Those version numbers should imply the difference in maturity. It's hard to compare something in beta to an actual release, so I hope you will hold off your judgment until we are done. I find Eclipse works very well when you have tweaked a few things like Memory management.I am not sure the whole He3 v CFEclipse is and argument which should be geared toward the best IDE as they are both plugins to the actual Eclipse project itself.and I think that no one can really argue that at present the latter is the better choice - certainly from a feature perspective. Just to clarify here, He3 is an IDE and not a plugin. Technically, He3 is implemented as a set of plugins for Eclipse, but then again Eclipse itself is implemented as a set of plugins for Eclipse. I mean you wouldn't call CFMX a Java class just because it is implemented as a set of Java classes. Anyway, the real point here is that CFEclipse --as I understand it-- aims to provide CFML support for Eclipse. This is different than He3 in which we aim to provide an IDE for CFML development. CFML development includes more than just CFML; it also includes HTML, SQL, JS, CSS, XML, Fusebox, Mach-II, etc. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
Man I am loving this Flame War.I wanted to respond to this particular post because it seems Sean has caught the most heat for his opinion on the products whether they are bias or not. I had some issues getting first setup with the He3, I had been forced to use the Eclipse plugin install method instead of the .exe install. (Which was not easy as well)Seems the installer is having issues finding the Java that I have installed on my Win XP.Oh well, all for the best. With that said, I also have the latest version of CFEclipse installed. That's right, both He3 and CFEclipse are complimenting each other with different features.For instance I use the Perspectives and MachII editor of He3 while editing my CFC and CFM files in the CFE.The insight for the tags is pulled from CFE. So if any one wants to download a zipped up version of what I got to use as their IDE please drop me an email and I will provide a way for you to download it. FAMOUS LINE Can't we all just get along?LOL Thanks, Jason L. West, Sr. Internet Application Specialist, Sr. Sean Corfield wrote on 7/15/2004, 02:02: Wrong. CFE has always had a cfml perspective. That was pointed out in the comments on that blog entry (which is why I specifically mentioned the comments were interesting). It isn't the default perspective after installing CFE and, unless you're familiar with the way Eclipse works, it isn't obvious how to change that at first. Quoting from one of my posts in the comments: OK, I found the CFML perspective in CFEclipse. Yes, that makes the workspace much better since it surfaces the snip tree view and the CFC methods view. That is just plain non-sense. First you can just close the view if you want - making it a cleaner (read less work put into it) interface. Again, assuming you are familiar enough with how Eclipse works. It's obvious how to minimize / maximize views but not obvious at first how to makes views go away altogether (or how to restore them later). Yes, I figured it out after a while but this all goes to how Eclipse + CFE behaves out of the box vs how He3 behaves out of the box - CFE relies on users knowing a fair bit about Eclipse, He3 doesn't (or at least doesn't rely as much on it). A lot of CFers who've tried Eclipse say they don't like how complex it is (or appears to be) - it definitely takes some getting used to. CFEclipse has preferences - it always has. Again, read the comments where Spike points out how to find the CFE prefs and I respond Preferences. Thanx. I was looking for a dedicated CFEclipse preference section (like He3 has) so I didn't notice that. I can now set the insight delay to match what I have on He3!. It's another Eclipse complexity that is just easier to find in He3. Again this is silly - it's one line of code - a good thing about cfe is that it does number coloring?! Do you even write cf code Sean? Er, yeah, quite a bit actually... So even when I praise CFE (it's color-coding is better than He3's) I still get flamed? The comparison needs revisiting when He3 have fixed their color-coding of course but right now it's much easier to read code in CFE. There are key bindings that go with those that, of course, but you didn't even look for them (because they are with all the other key bindings in Eclipse) Right, so not knowing Eclipse, I wouldn't know where to look - if CFE had all its prefs in one place in a separate prefs group, I'd probably have found that and been happier. Having said that, I don't use shortcuts for snippets anyway in DW (set it up, tried it, found I was still usually quicker at just typing code instead of typing a mixture of code and special keystrokes... years of writing code with 'vi' is to blame for that I suspect). date inserter that inserts the date to where your cursor is in the file Er, I never insert the date into a file... Why would I need to? Can anyone say re-invent the wheel? There are at least 2 other plug ins for eclipse that do just that. Ease of use - He3 bundles a bunch of useful stuff that works well together whereas you're recommending that I spend time locating plugins and evaluating them to see which one suits me best. Again, it's the Eclipse-is-complex-and-I-need-to-learn-it-to-be-productive thing. If I can be productive without spending a lot of time and effort 'building' my IDE, I'm going to be happier. So you advocate duplication of effort - grand. You really like that the *CFML* focused he3 authors spend their time making regex views - okey dokey. I don't care if *they* have to duplicate effort if it helps me expend less effort. I don't want my IDE to be a pain to set up right and I don't want to have to go out to a bunch of sites and review endless extensions etc just to get something that another IDE has already. Even with DW, I only have two extensions installed - a TOC
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
I'm more than willing to toss out a few bucks for solid all around support for CF in Eclipse. Will definitely be checking back when released! Pls keep up the good work. Stace From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... I started to use Eclipse 3.0 (with CF plugin) and must say that I haven't opened up HS+ since.I installed and looked at He3 (strange choice of name...dunno what it has to do with a Helium Isotope...) http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/index.cfm?data=""> and was not impressed for many reasons...firstly it will be a paid for install which considering its just mainly Eclipse there is nothing to entice me their He3 is not a paid for install; it is freely available from our web site, while it is in beta. When it is released there will continue to be a free edition. It also doesn't have anywhere near the features that CFEclipse has (at present). At present, the public beta has less CFML-specific functionality than CFEclipse. However, remember that the currently available version of He3 is 0.7.4, while CFEclipse is at 1.1.14. Those version numbers should imply the difference in maturity. It's hard to compare something in beta to an actual release, so I hope you will hold off your judgment until we are done. I find Eclipse works very well when you have tweaked a few things like Memory management. I am not sure the whole He3 v CFEclipse is and argument which should be geared toward the best IDE as they are both plugins to the actual Eclipse project itself.and I think that no one can really argue that at present the latter is the better choice - certainly from a feature perspective. Just to clarify here, He3 is an IDE and not a plugin. Technically, He3 is implemented as a set of plugins for Eclipse, but then again Eclipse itself is implemented as a set of plugins for Eclipse. I mean you wouldn't call CFMX a Java class just because it is implemented as a set of Java classes. Anyway, the real point here is that CFEclipse --as I understand it-- aims to provide CFML support for Eclipse. This is different than He3 in which we aim to provide an IDE for CFML development. CFML development includes more than just CFML; it also includes HTML, SQL, JS, CSS, XML, Fusebox, Mach-II, etc. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
Some more random comments to the many posts on this thread. Rob pointed out that Eclipse is slow on the Mac (in comparison to other Mac Java apps) because IBM wrote Eclipse using its own SWT toolkit, rather than the standard stuff from Sun.Apple optimized much of Sun's Java GUI stuff for the Mac OS and Quartz display layer, then gave the modifications back to Sun. Eclipse doesn't use the optimized Java code. Rob also pointed out in Eclipse on other platforms you can break off portions of the Eclipse window and have them appear in separate windows on the desktop -- can't do this in the Mac implementation. The play-for-pay vs free issue re He3 vs CFEclipse is an interesting one -- In many large enterprises, perceived value is often equated with price. I wonder if many of the issues discussed are related to Eclipse, itself, rather than the plugins. For example, here are 3 features that I really like from BBEdit that I haven't found in other editors, but likely should be implemented in the base Eclipse product. 1) Drag and drop a file or selection: within an Eclipse window; between Eclipse windows; From the file system to Eclipse; From another application to Eclipse; from Eclipse to another application. For example, go to the file system tree display, select several files, DD them to Eclipse -- and have each opened in a separate tab/window. 2) Add remove line numbers.When referencing a snippet of code, say in a post to this list, it is useful to show line numbers so they can be referenced in the post.You can display Line numbers in most editors, but they are generated for display and not part of he text.BBEdit allows you to insert/remove line numbers in a selection of text.For example: 93cffunction name=getQuery returnType=string output=yes access=remote 94cfquery name=employeesSelect datasource=cfSnippets 95SELECT * FROM Employees 96/cfquery 97cfset arguments.startRow=1 / 98cfset arguments.numberOFRows=-1 / 99cfset variables.thinArray= / 100cfinvoke component=cfBAM method=query2thinarray returnVariable=variables.thinArray 101 cfinvokeargument name=queryName value=#employeesSelect# / 102 cfinvokeargument name=columnList value=EMP_ID,LASTNAME,FIRSTNAME,PHONE,DEPARTMENT,EMAIL / 103 cfinvokeargument name=separator value=| / 104 cfinvokeargument name=startRow value=#arguments.startRow# / 105 cfinvokeargument name=numberOfRows value=#arguments.numberOfRows# / 106/cfinvoke 107cfreturn variables.thinArray 108/cffunction 3) Select/copy/paste/DD a rectangular area of text.for example, I can select the name parameter from lines 101 threw 105 and manipulate as a separate entity, as shown below: name=queryName name=columnList name=separator name=startRow name=numberOfRows This may appear to be something that you'd never use, but you'd be surprised, how handy it is when: a) Using existing code snippets to create a new app.That's why my source code looks funny -- sure is easy to create, tho (you thought I was just anal). b) Building CREATE TABLE/INSERT/UPDATE/SELECT statements for every column in a DB Table. c) Building text files used to generate test data or Populate a db table.Example: a portion of the data used to populate a Classified Ad Category database: * Category Announcements Automotive,* Vehicle Type,,, Automotive,Antique Cars,* Make,, Automotive,Antique Cars,MG,* Model, Automotive,Antique Cars,MG,TC, Automotive,Antique Cars,MG,TD, Automotive,Antique Cars,MG,TF, Automotive,Antique Cars,Dusenberg,* Model, Automotive,Antique Cars,Dusenberg,J, Automotive,Antique Cars,Dusenberg,SJ, Automotive,Auto Parts Accessories,,, Automotive,Boats-Motors Supplies,,, Automotive,Camper Shells,,, Automotive,Campers Travel Trailers,,, Automotive,Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...,* Make,, Automotive,Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...,Acura,* Model, Automotive,Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...,Acura,CL, Automotive,Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...,Acura,Integra,* SubModel Automotive,Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...,Acura,Integra,GS Automotive,Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...,Acura,Integra,GSR Automotive,Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...,Acura,Integra,L Automotive,Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...,Acura,Integra,LS Automotive,Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...,Acura,Integra,RS Automotive,Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...,Acura,Integra,SE Automotive,Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...,Acura,Integra,Type-R Automotive,Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...,Acura,Legend,* SubModel Automotive,Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...,Acura,Legend,GS Automotive,Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...,Acura,Legend,L Automotive,Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...,Acura,Legend,LS Automotive,Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...,Acura,Legend,SE Automotive,Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...,Acura,RL, d) illustrating an example, as I did in the above. HTH Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
XML/XSLT to write typical CF Form page
I have an app with 100 forms that are all very similar in structure: 1) filter on some heirarchy of properies on the left: e.g. Year - State - City to find a paricular record 2) edit, delete, or add a new record on the right I want to streamline the maintenance of writing these CF self-posting form processing pages since the structure seems pretty consistent but each form is between 400 and 1000 lines of CF/HTML. I was thinking I could describe the structure in XML and then use XSLT to write my 400-1000 line CFM page.Then I could cfinclude the result. It would be great is someone out there has already defined a nice DTD for doing this. Anyone doing anything like this? Jon [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: ActivScan CFX Tag
It seems to me that the browser will be doing all the hard work Exactly, and there shouldn't be any difference if it is sent to the browser by CF 5 or 6 all the server side will be doing is handling the file upload part... Yes, and I don't see what could be not working anymore under CFMX. For the least, it should not be that difficult to fix it. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: OT: BlueDragon .NET uninstall
I had the same thing happen to me with an earlier version. I tried every thing you did. Their tech support couldn't figure it out either. I gave up and wrote off the purchase as lesson learned. Phillip B. - Original Message - From: Tony Weeg heres what i did. 1. uninstall. 2. it removed the .cfm/.htm/.html mappings itself 3. i reinstalled cfmx to see if it would RESET the mappings, etcNO DICE tonight, ill uninstall EVERYTHING, and start over. i should have known this might happen.damn, this sucks. tw [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
To All: Man I am loving this Flame War.I wanted to respond to this particular post because it seems Sean has caught the most heat for his opinion on the products whether they are bias or not. I had some issues getting first setup with the He3, I had been forced to use the Eclipse plugin install method instead of the .exe install. (Which was not easy as well)Seems the installer is having issues finding the Java that I have installed on my Win XP.Oh well, all for the best. With that said, I also have the latest version of CFEclipse installed. That's right, both He3 and CFEclipse are complimenting each other with different features.For instance I use the Perspectives and MachII editor of He3 while editing my CFC and CFM files in the CFE.The insight for the tags is pulled from CFE. So if any one wants to download a zipped up version of what I got to use as their IDE please drop me an email and I will provide a way for you to download it. FAMOUS LINE Can't we all just get along?LOL Thanks, Jason L. West, Sr. Internet Application Specialist, Sr. Sean Corfield wrote on 7/15/2004, 02:02: Wrong. CFE has always had a cfml perspective. That was pointed out in the comments on that blog entry (which is why I specifically mentioned the comments were interesting). It isn't the default perspective after installing CFE and, unless you're familiar with the way Eclipse works, it isn't obvious how to change that at first. Quoting from one of my posts in the comments: OK, I found the CFML perspective in CFEclipse. Yes, that makes the workspace much better since it surfaces the snip tree view and the CFC methods view. That is just plain non-sense. First you can just close the view if you want - making it a cleaner (read less work put into it) interface. Again, assuming you are familiar enough with how Eclipse works. It's obvious how to minimize / maximize views but not obvious at first how to makes views go away altogether (or how to restore them later). Yes, I figured it out after a while but this all goes to how Eclipse + CFE JLW HAD TO TRIM THIS SO MY MESSAGE COULD POST ... JLW [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
jrunfilter in iPlanet/Sun One obj.conf
(My initial post did not seem to make it) Does anyone know what the following line accomplishes in obj.conf in a Sun One/iPlanet Web server? NameTrans fn=jrunfilter serverstore=C:/CFusionMX/runtime/lib/wsconfig/1/jrunserver.store bootstrap=127.0.0.1:51010 Here is what I am trying to do. I want both CFMX and CF5 to be running on the same server, using the same URL and port. I want CFMX to run for only a single directory on an existing iPlanet server, and CF5 to handle all other directories. Adding the following lines to obj.conf hand over control to CFMX for a single directory: ObjectType fn=type-by-exp exp=D:/iPlanet/Servers/docs/cfmxtest/*.cf[m|c] type=jrun-internal/ Service method=(GET|POST) type=jrun-internal/ fn=jrunservice This seems to work fine. However, the setup instruction indicate that the following are also needed in obj.conf NameTrans fn=jrunfilter serverstore=C:/CFusionMX/runtime/lib/wsconfig/1/jrunserver.store bootstrap=127.0.0.1:51010 Object name=jrun PathCheck fn=jrunfilter Service fn=jrunservice /Object If the jrunfilter line is in obj.conf, CFMX takes over handling of all .cfm files on the entire server, regardless of the other settings in obj.conf. Without the jrunfilter line, the server seems to work the way I want it to. The jrunfilter line seems to intercept all requests for .cfm, .cfc, .cfml, .jws, .jst, and .jsp files. The other lines in obj.conf related to CFMX seem to be completely unnecessary if the jrunfilter line is present. I was able to take out the lines: ObjectType fn=type-by-exp exp=*.cfm type=jrun-internal/ and Service method=(GET|POST) type=jrun-internal/ fn=jrunservice and the .cfm extension was handled fine by CFMX. I would guess that the jrunfilter line is slightly more efficient, since it is the first line in obj.conf. However, why would Macromedia say to include the ObjectType and Service lines in obj.conf if these are just going to be ignored? Does the combination of ObjectType and Service lines provide the same funcationality as the jrunfilter line? Does anyone know if this jrunfilter line is essential? Are there any other ways to do what I am trying to do? Thank you, Mike Chabot [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
WOT but important
Although I have not been a big contributor to this list, I have learned a lot from it. I will have to unsubscribe though for a while since I have just been told that I am going to Iraq with my national guard unit. I am heading out next month for training and then should be in country around January. Thanks to everyone who has helped answer my questions and I look forward to returning and getting more great tips and tricks from this list. Bruce Sorge [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: WOT but important
good luck over there man, and we look forward to seeing you get back as soon as possible! Ray At 10:24 AM 7/15/2004, you wrote: Although I have not been a big contributor to this list, I have learned a lot from it. I will have to unsubscribe though for a while since I have just been told that I am going to Iraq with my national guard unit. I am heading out next month for training and then should be in country around January. Thanks to everyone who has helped answer my questions and I look forward to returning and getting more great tips and tricks from this list. Bruce Sorge [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: WOT but important
Bruce, May you a safe and secure round-trip. I'll try to do my part and push for regime-change here at home -- and hopefully the 'gates of hell' will close as our belligerent country moves towards an exit strategy. Peace, Mike Bruce Sorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/2004 10:24 AM Please respond to cf-talk To:CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:WOT but important Although I have not been a big contributor to this list, I have learned a lot from it. I will have to unsubscribe though for a while since I have just been told that I am going to Iraq with my national guard unit. I am heading out next month for training and then should be in country around January. Thanks to everyone who has helped answer my questions and I look forward to returning and getting more great tips and tricks from this list. Bruce Sorge [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: WOT but important
good luck, thank you, and GODSPEED! tw On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:24:04 -0500, Bruce Sorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I have not been a big contributor to this list, I have learned a lot from it. I will have to unsubscribe though for a while since I have just been told that I am going to Iraq with my national guard unit. I am heading out next month for training and then should be in country around January. Thanks to everyone who has helped answer my questions and I look forward to returning and getting more great tips and tricks from this list. Bruce Sorge [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
On Jul 15, 2004, at 6:15 AM, Matt Liotta wrote: This is different than He3 in which we aim to provide an IDE for CFML development. CFML development includes more than just CFML; it also includes HTML, SQL, JS, CSS, XML, Fusebox, Mach-II, etc. Mmmm... How do you plan to handle the creation/interaction of Java classes and CFCs, CFMs. For example, consider your CF JAI tutorial/example. http://www.evolt.org/article/Image_Manipulation_with_CFMX_and_JAI/18/ 33907/ I experimented for a while, then finally set up 2 projects: 1) a Java Project with the source/class (.project) files being stored in: /pathtoServer/cfusion/WEB-INF/classes/ 2) The CFCs and CFMs in a CFE project folder at: /pathtoServer/cfusion/CFJavaImageUtils/ This seems kind of kludgey, but I don't need to fiddle with classpaths, etc. and everything runs where Eclipse saves it. Does He3 do anything to integrate this in a mor natural way? Actually, what I (and prolly a lot of others) really want to do is have all my CFM, CFC, java, class files (and PHP HTML, for that matter, in a directory structure totally isolated from Apache webroot or cfroot. That way a single code set could be used from: 1) multiple instances of CFMX 2) mutiple instances of BD 3) Apache, where applicable Any ideas for how to do that? TIA Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: WOT but important
You are in my prayers and I wish you good luck.This comes from a veteran of the Persian Gulf War. God Bless, Jason L. West, Sr. Bruce Sorge wrote on 7/15/2004, 10:24: Although I have not been a big contributor to this list, I have learned a lot from it. I will have to unsubscribe though for a while since I have just been told that I am going to Iraq with my national guard unit. I am heading out next month for training and then should be in country around January. Thanks to everyone who has helped answer my questions and I look forward to returning and getting more great tips and tricks from this list. Bruce Sorge [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
Dick, We would be happy to discuss your ideas for file management. Though perhaps this line of discussion might be more appropriate on the He3 list (also hosted at HoF). rish -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... On Jul 15, 2004, at 6:15 AM, Matt Liotta wrote: This is different than He3 in which we aim to provide an IDE for CFML development. CFML development includes more than just CFML; it also includes HTML, SQL, JS, CSS, XML, Fusebox, Mach-II, etc. Mmmm... How do you plan to handle the creation/interaction of Java classes and CFCs, CFMs. For example, consider your CF JAI tutorial/example. http://www.evolt.org/article/Image_Manipulation_with_CFMX_and_JAI/18/ 33907/ I experimented for a while, then finally set up 2 projects: 1) a Java Project with the source/class (.project) files being stored in: /pathtoServer/cfusion/WEB-INF/classes/ 2) The CFCs and CFMs in a CFE project folder at: /pathtoServer/cfusion/CFJavaImageUtils/ This seems kind of kludgey, but I don't need to fiddle with classpaths, etc. and everything runs where Eclipse saves it. Does He3 do anything to integrate this in a mor natural way? Actually, what I (and prolly a lot of others) really want to do is have all my CFM, CFC, java, class files (and PHP HTML, for that matter, in a directory structure totally isolated from Apache webroot or cfroot. That way a single code set could be used from: 1) multiple instances of CFMX 2) mutiple instances of BD 3) Apache, where applicable Any ideas for how to do that? TIA Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: WOT but important
Ditto! On Jul 15, 2004, at 7:27 AM, Ray Champagne wrote: good luck over there man, and we look forward to seeing you get back as soon as possible! Ray At 10:24 AM 7/15/2004, you wrote: Although I have not been a big contributor to this list, I have learned a lot from it. I will have to unsubscribe though for a while since I have just been told that I am going to Iraq with my national guard unit. I am heading out next month for training and then should be in country around January. Thanks to everyone who has helped answer my questions and I look forward to returning and getting more great tips and tricks from this list. Bruce Sorge Every person takes the limits of their own field of vision for the limits of the world. - Arthur Schopenhauer - [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: WOT but important
Speaking of that, this will be my second time there. I too was in the first war. - Original Message - From: Jason L. West, Sr. To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:55 AM Subject: Re: WOT but important You are in my prayers and I wish you good luck.This comes from a veteran of the Persian Gulf War. God Bless, Jason L. West, Sr. Bruce Sorge wrote on 7/15/2004, 10:24: Although I have not been a big contributor to this list, I have learned a lot from it. I will have to unsubscribe though for a while since I have just been told that I am going to Iraq with my national guard unit. I am heading out next month for training and then should be in country around January. Thanks to everyone who has helped answer my questions and I look forward to returning and getting more great tips and tricks from this list. Bruce Sorge [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: XML/XSLT to write typical CF Form page
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 07:34:10 -0600, Jon Gunnip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking I could describe the structure in XML and then use XSLT to write my 400-1000 line CFM page.Then I could cfinclude the result. It would be great is someone out there has already defined a nice DTD for doing this. Anyone doing anything like this? Yeah, I am working on a project that does that. Actually it takes and XML document makes an XSD out of it then uses the XSD+XSLT to make form elements so what you are saying it totally possible.The only code that I could share with you is XSD+XSLT-form elements though, which I dont think is what you want. If you'd like to see the code let me know and I'll send it to you. Cheers, Rob -- ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~open source XML database~ http://ashpool.sourceforge.net [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags
Hi All, I've been developing a series of custom tags (jComponents) that provide tab navigation, trees, and accordian panes (plus a utility box that shows/hides content). URL:http://clearsoftware.net/clear/?template=downloads.jComponents Info: Implementation is all CF - no CSS or _javascript_ required.They nest and play well with others. Currently released in a Beta' format.If anyone finds them useful, please send feedback, as I'd like to move to a 1.0. I plan to keep them forever free of charge for any type of use, but am undecided as to open sourcing. Thanks, Joe [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
What's DWMX 2004 performance like compared to eclipse/bbedit? -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... So, because of what a Mac user is accustomed to, in Eclipse: 1) switching windows is like switching pages in a book when the pages are stuck together 2) typing/selecting/manipulation of content feels like you are wearing mittens or have spilled a Diet Pepsi on the mouse keyboard ... It just feels slow! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags
Looks good! But nothing downloaded. Such a tease Dick On Jul 15, 2004, at 8:19 AM, Joe Rinehart wrote: Hi All, I've been developing a series of custom tags (jComponents) that provide tab navigation, trees, and accordian panes (plus a utility box that shows/hides content). URL: http://clearsoftware.net/clear/?template=downloads.jComponents Info: Implementation is all CF - no CSS or _javascript_ required. They nest and play well with others. Currently released in a Beta' format. If anyone finds them useful, please send feedback, as I'd like to move to a 1.0. I plan to keep them forever free of charge for any type of use, but am undecided as to open sourcing. Thanks, Joe [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: WOT but important
Then isn't it time for a Baghdad Cold Fusion Users Group? You are slow off the ball. Good luck, come back safe and thank you. Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/04 11:02AM Speaking of that, this will be my second time there. I too was in the first war. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
I got curious and downloaded Eclipse this AM, and as far as speed, DW is beat down bad by CFEclipse.However, right now I find the whole thing rather cumbersome, and for about an hour now I have been trying to figure out an equivalent to F12 (preview page in browser in DW) in Eclipse.Of course, this cumbersomeness is really just me trying to get used to a new program Ray At 11:29 AM 7/15/2004, Marlon Moyer wrote: What's DWMX 2004 performance like compared to eclipse/bbedit? -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... So, because of what a Mac user is accustomed to, in Eclipse: 1) switching windows is like switching pages in a book when the pages are stuck together 2) typing/selecting/manipulation of content feels like you are wearing mittens or have spilled a Diet Pepsi on the mouse keyboard ... It just feels slow! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags
This is great Joe. I was just about to start rebuilding one of our forms that has gotten unbelievably long and move it to a flash based form so I can use the accordian for a multi step form. I will definitely be playing around with this. Ben On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:19:28 -0400, Joe Rinehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've been developing a series of custom tags (jComponents) that provide tab navigation, trees, and accordian panes (plus a utility box that shows/hides content). URL:http://clearsoftware.net/clear/?template=downloads.jComponents Info: Implementation is all CF - no CSS or _javascript_ required.They nest and play well with others. Currently released in a Beta' format.If anyone finds them useful, please send feedback, as I'd like to move to a 1.0. I plan to keep them forever free of charge for any type of use, but am undecided as to open sourcing. Thanks, Joe [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Paypal API
Has anyone ever used coldfusion to consume the paypal webservice/api? I am having trouble figuring out how to pass the client cert Paypal provides along with the request. Thanks, Scott [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags
LOL - your attachment didn't come through?If anyone else has this problem, please let me know. I'll e-mail off-list with a link to get it directly. -joe [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags
Thanks Ben.Please keep me posted on how it works, and what needs improvement. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
I really like both He3 and CFEclipse, but the biggest issue I have is with uploading files to a staging/production server.I like being able to highlight a file in DW and hit ctrl-shift-U and having it upload.Very, very simple.Unfortunately, it sometimes takes 100% of the cpu though.If He3 or CFEclipse could incorporate something like that, I'd probably use it a lot more often.Oh, and I have checked out the FTP and WedDav plugin. Besides being a bear to configure, I've still not been able to get it to do exactly what I want. Marlon -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... I got curious and downloaded Eclipse this AM, and as far as speed, DW is beat down bad by CFEclipse.However, right now I find the whole thing rather cumbersome, and for about an hour now I have been trying to figure out an equivalent to F12 (preview page in browser in DW) in Eclipse.Of course, this cumbersomeness is really just me trying to get used to a new program Ray At 11:29 AM 7/15/2004, Marlon Moyer wrote: What's DWMX 2004 performance like compared to eclipse/bbedit? -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... So, because of what a Mac user is accustomed to, in Eclipse: 1) switching windows is like switching pages in a book when the pages are stuck together 2) typing/selecting/manipulation of content feels like you are wearing mittens or have spilled a Diet Pepsi on the mouse keyboard ... It just feels slow! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: WOT but important
Bruce, Good luck, godspeed, and we all look forward to hearing from you on your return. -joe - Original Message - From: Bruce Sorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:24:04 -0500 Subject: WOT but important To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Although I have not been a big contributor to this list, I have learned a lot from it. I will have to unsubscribe though for a while since I have just been told that I am going to Iraq with my national guard unit. I am heading out next month for training and then should be in country around January. Thanks to everyone who has helped answer my questions and I look forward to returning and getting more great tips and tricks from this list. Bruce Sorge [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
application data and jrun memory usage
Yesterday, as a test I deleted a big chunk of data from the application scope of our app. This had no immediate effect on memory usage but about 10-20 minutes later I noticed jrun's memory usage drop about 100 megs. Is this due to the garbage collection running? Does this seems correct? Basically, what I want to know, is if jrun does release that memory once data is deleted from the application scope. Brook Davies logiforms.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags
Great!! Looks very nice. Congratulations. Please keep me inside... On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:49:54 -0400, Joe Rinehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Ben.Please keep me posted on how it works, and what needs improvement. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Coldfusion Web Image Editor
I wanted to say that two of my products, the Alagad Image Component and the now deprecated MagicTag were mentioned here.Please let me know if I can answer any questions on these products. The site for both of these is http://www.alagad.com.I can also be reached via the contact us form on that site. Thanks, Doug Hughes President, Alagad Inc http://www.alagad.com On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:25:48 -0400, Benjamin Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.cfxtras.com/SalesComponentDetail.cfx?componentid=104 ben _ From: Ryan Mannion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:24 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfusion Web Image Editor Doest anyone know of a image editor that can be used in a webpage, preferably not a java applet etc. It does not have to be the photoshop of web browsers, but resize, crop etc would be great. The cheapest, or free would be best like always! Thanks in advance. Ryan _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
Hi Ray, There are a few options depending on what you are trying to achieve... First, you can set the root URL for a project by right-clicking on the project, choosing properties and going to the cfeclipse section. Once you've done that, the internal browser home button will always take you to the root URL for the project of the file you currently have open in the editor. The default project home URL is set to the Macromedia livedocs since that's likely to be a useful place for a lot of people. Once you've got the browser set to the right URL, you can reload the page in the internal browser by hitting F5. It would probably make sense to have a F12 shortcut to launch the current file in the internal browser, but no-one has requested that in the Issue Tracker as far as I'm aware. For my part, the majority of projects I work with have a single entry point such as index.cfm, so I only need to use the home button and F5. If that doesn't get you going, it would probably be worth going over to the cfeclipse site and joining the cfeclipse users list. That's probably a more appropriate place for this type of discussion. If you don't fancy joining yet another mailing list I'm happy to field questions directly. Spike Stephen Milligan Code poet for hire http://www.spike.org.uk Do you cfeclipse? http://cfeclipse.tigris.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Champagne Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 7:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... I got curious and downloaded Eclipse this AM, and as far as speed, DW is beat down bad by CFEclipse.However, right now I find the whole thing rather cumbersome, and for about an hour now I have been trying to figure out an equivalent to F12 (preview page in browser in DW) in Eclipse.Of course, this cumbersomeness is really just me trying to get used to a new program Ray [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags
On Jul 15, 2004, at 11:19 AM, Joe Rinehart wrote: Implementation is all CF - no CSS or _javascript_ required. Looking at the demos, they're all JS?? -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 Nothing endures but change. - Heraclitus [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: jrunfilter in iPlanet/Sun One obj.conf
Does anyone know what the following line accomplishes in obj.conf in a Sun One/iPlanet Web server? NameTrans fn=jrunfilter serverstore=C:/CFusionMX/runtime/lib/wsconfig/1/jrunserver.st ore bootstrap=127.0.0.1:51010 I'm no expert with iPlanet. However, I think that this enables an NSAPI filter. It sounds to me like NSAPI behaves a bit like IIS's ISAPI. Within ISAPI, you can have filters and extensions. Filters are run at the beginning of the HTTP request processing pipeline, while extensions are run later on. ISAPI extensions are mapped to specific file extensions, while filters are processed for every request. There's some CFMX functionality which requires this sort of filter - the ability to run servlets and the Flash Remoting gateway. There may be other functionality dependent on this, but I'm not aware of it. Here is what I am trying to do. I want both CFMX and CF5 to be running on the same server, using the same URL and port. I want CFMX to run for only a single directory on an existing iPlanet server, and CF5 to handle all other directories. ... If the jrunfilter line is in obj.conf, CFMX takes over handling of all .cfm files on the entire server, regardless of the other settings in obj.conf. Without the jrunfilter line, the server seems to work the way I want it to. The jrunfilter line seems to intercept all requests for .cfm, .cfc, .cfml, .jws, .jst, and .jsp files. The other lines in obj.conf related to CFMX seem to be completely unnecessary if the jrunfilter line is present. ... However, why would Macromedia say to include the ObjectType and Service lines in obj.conf if these are just going to be ignored? Does the combination of ObjectType and Service lines provide the same funcationality as the jrunfilter line? Does anyone know if this jrunfilter line is essential? In my experience with IIS, I generally leave both the ISAPI filter and extension enabled. However, it seems to work well enough with the filter disabled and just the extension enabled, aside from the aforementioned servlets and Flash Remoting stuff. Honestly, I don't really know why (or whether) both are needed - the filter seems like it would be sufficient. Perhaps it's just set up that way for redundancy. Are there any other ways to do what I am trying to do? Yes, there may be. One way you can configure CFMX is with a context root, which basically limits the filter to only accepting requests that map to a specific directory. When you install CFMX onto a J2EE server, you're asked for a context root during the EAR/WAR creation process. You should be able to specify the directory name as the context root, and CFMX should only then process requests within that directory. I haven't specifically set CFMX up this way with a CF 5 server, though, so this is conjecture on my part. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
I had a trial DW, but it has expired.I tried it for a while but it was just too involved slow compared to BBEdit. I wasn't doing any Java programming at the time, so I saw no need to change IDEs. When I decided to learn Java, I decided to look for an IDE to ease the pain.Eclipse looks like the best bet, so far. BBEdit color-codes Java, and has a Glossary where you can get/write plugins (that's how CF is implemented).There is a jsp plugin I may get that. I wanted to avoid fiddling with classpath, javac, etc. -- Eclipse does a pretty good job of that (once you figure it out). Also, I have observed that Java apps tend to have a lot more components than procedural-language apps -- Eclipse does a pretty good job of managing them. But, I am still learning Eclipse and have only scratched the surface. Since it is Java-oriented it should help guide me (gently prod or strong-arm) to good Java development habits, That said, I haven't seen anything yet that Eclipse can do that BBEdit can't. Once I learn how to do Java in Eclipse, I may revert to BBEdit. BBEdit has built-in hooks for adding code completion, snippets, compile/execute scripts.So It shouldn't be too difficult to make BBEdit do whatever the Eclipse IDE is doing (that I need to do. As, I've mentioned previously, BBEdit, as an editor, is superior to the one(s) in Eclipse (or elsewhere, for that matter). Dick On Jul 15, 2004, at 8:36 AM, Ray Champagne wrote: I got curious and downloaded Eclipse this AM, and as far as speed, DW is beat down bad by CFEclipse. However, right now I find the whole thing rather cumbersome, and for about an hour now I have been trying to figure out an equivalent to F12 (preview page in browser in DW) in Eclipse. Of course, this cumbersomeness is really just me trying to get used to a new program Ray At 11:29 AM 7/15/2004, Marlon Moyer wrote: What's DWMX 2004 performance like compared to eclipse/bbedit? -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... So, because of what a Mac user is accustomed to, in Eclipse: 1) switching windows is like switching pages in a book when the pages are stuck together 2) typing/selecting/manipulation of content feels like you are wearing mittens or have spilled a Diet Pepsi on the mouse keyboard ... It just feels slow! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: OT: BlueDragon .NET uninstall
heres what i did. 1. uninstall. 2. it removed the .cfm/.htm/.html mappings itself 3. i reinstalled cfmx to see if it would RESET the mappings, etcNO DICE tonight, ill uninstall EVERYTHING, and start over. Did you run the CFMX web server configuration utility? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: XML/XSLT to write typical CF Form page
Rob, Could you explain why you are creating an XSD from XML?I thought XSD's were for validation (like a DTD, but more powerful).Are you using the XSD to validate a form submission? I would like to use XML/XSLT as a .cfm page builder.The XSLT will write my cfquery's, cfif's, and forms.Is that what you are doing, too? I guess another option is to use cfm to build an XML doc that describes the state of the request (Filter, Save, Delete, ..) and the data in the form and use XSLT just to do the form display. The tricky part is that I want the same XSLT to work for lots of different forms, and I'm not sure if all of the possibilities of the different forms would make an XML doc that is way more complex than my current problem. Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/15/2004 9:11:54 AM Yeah, I am working on a project that does that. Actually it takes and XML document makes an XSD out of it then uses the XSD+XSLT to make form elements so what you are saying it totally possible. Cheers, Rob -- ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~open source XML database~ http://ashpool.sourceforge.net [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: RAD (was RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...)
Most people are comfortable with the notion that CFML is a RAD platform, while Java and .NET are not. I suspect many .NET developers would not be comfortable with this notion, actually. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: BlueDragon.NET Technology Preview Release
On Jul 14, 2004, at 8:50 PM, Vince Bonfanti wrote: New Atlanta is pleased to announce the Technology Preview release of BlueDragon for the Microsoft .NET Framework, Congrats Vince. A (fairly rhetorical) question I have is whether BD.NET goes through the dotNET database drivers before hitting the ODBC system or go straight to ODBC? BTW, for those who don't already know, .NET is Microsoft's continuance of their Java fork.Their license precludes them from calling it Java, but that's where it comes from.Heck, early releases of the .NET classes could be ran on a JVM. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 Nothing endures but change. - Heraclitus [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: OT: BlueDragon .NET uninstall
wont load.i get a popup box, asking what to do with a .cfm file. and yes, the mappings are there, and yes the xml file knows the .cfm files are to be parsed by the cf servlet wthaidw? tw On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:35:05 -0400, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heres what i did. 1. uninstall. 2. it removed the .cfm/.htm/.html mappings itself 3. i reinstalled cfmx to see if it would RESET the mappings, etcNO DICE tonight, ill uninstall EVERYTHING, and start over. Did you run the CFMX web server configuration utility? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: OT: BlueDragon .NET uninstall
Did you run the CFMX web server configuration utility? wont load.i get a popup box, asking what to do with a .cfm file. and yes, the mappings are there, and yes the xml file knows the .cfm files are to be parsed by the cf servlet When you say it won't load, what exactly happens? Do you get an error message about not being able to find a JVM or something like that? If so, you can just run it from the command prompt like this: cd \cfusionmx\lib c:\cfusionmx\runtime\jre\bin\java.exe -jar wsconfig.jar The file paths may be slightly off, but you should be able to figure out the correct paths on your system. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: BlueDragon.NET Technology Preview Release
BTW, for those who don't already know, .NET is Microsoft's continuance of their Java fork. Their license precludes them from calling it Java, but that's where it comes from. While there's some merit to what you say, I think it's a bit too much of an oversimpification. A lot of the ideas implemented by the .NET Framework are similar to those in Java, but they couldn't call it Java no matter what their license says. It's not Java. It's not a continuance of a Java fork. Instead, it's a completely separate implementation of many of the best ideas in Java. Heck, early releases of the .NET classes could be ran on a JVM. I've never seen or heard of that, actually, but I suppose anything's possible! However, while the .NET Framework and Java both have VMs, they're different VMs. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: application data and jrun memory usage
Yesterday, as a test I deleted a big chunk of data from the application scope of our app. This had no immediate effect on memory usage but about 10-20 minutes later I noticed jrun's memory usage drop about 100 megs. Is this due to the garbage collection running? Does this seems correct? Basically, what I want to know, is if jrun does release that memory once data is deleted from the application scope. Yes, this seems to match my experience with Java application servers on Windows. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags
Damien, Sorry, should've been more clear - meaning your implementation doesn't require you to do any CSS or _javascript_.They're all powered by various uses of _javascript_, with functions being kept local to each instance to not avoid conflicts. -joe - Original Message - From: Damien McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:20:03 -0400 Subject: Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jul 15, 2004, at 11:19 AM, Joe Rinehart wrote: Implementation is all CF - no CSS or _javascript_ required. Looking at the demos, they're all JS?? -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 Nothing endures but change. - Heraclitus [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
HELP! Forgot cfadmin password
I forgot the password for the cfadmin. How can I change it or logon? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags
On Jul 15, 2004, at 11:19 AM, Joe Rinehart wrote: Implementation is all CF - no CSS or _javascript_ required. Looking at the demos, they're all JS?? He means _you_ can implement them without needing to know the CSS or JS involved. But the tag then runs off and creates all the necessary JS for you. I've had all these widgets, and some others in the onTap framework's html library for some months now... Pros and cons - sure... Joe's are easier to understand when you're just looking at the code. The onTap framework's are more versatile, and along with that comes a bit of added complexity. The onTap framework features use a series of functions to generate the meta-data behind the widgets, so that you can edit the widgets, their content, their style and their behavior (dhtml events) after they've been created (and before they're displayed). Thus, you can create wrapper functions for common tasks to maintain a consistent UI or just to cut down on keystrokes. Plus if you want to add features, you don't have to add attributes to do that, you can add new features just by combining different html library function calls. More info at: http://www.turnkey.to/ontap/docs/?doc=advanced/htlib s. isaac dealey954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477DE=1 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: HELP! Forgot cfadmin password
I forgot the password for the cfadmin. How can I change it or logon? You can disable the password, then run CF Administrator and reset it. Disabling the password will require access to either the registry if you're using CF 5 or earlier, or the neo-security.xml file if you're using CFMX. If you're using CF 5, the registry value you'll be interested in is HKLM\SOFTWARE\Allaire\ColdFusion\CurrentVersion\Server\UseAdminPassword, I think. Change the value from 1 to 0. If you're using CFMX, change true to false in lib\neo-security.xml: var name='admin.security.enabled'boolean value='false'//var Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: BlueDragon.NET Technology Preview Release
BD.NET uses ADO.NET for all database access. I'm not sure what you mean by going straight to ODBC. Vince From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 12:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon.NET Technology Preview Release On Jul 14, 2004, at 8:50 PM, Vince Bonfanti wrote: New Atlanta is pleased to announce the Technology Preview release of BlueDragon for the Microsoft .NET Framework, Congrats Vince. A (fairly rhetorical) question I have is whether BD.NET goes through the dotNET database drivers before hitting the ODBC system or go straight to ODBC? BTW, for those who don't already know, .NET is Microsoft's continuance of their Java fork.Their license precludes them from calling it Java, but that's where it comes from.Heck, early releases of the .NET classes could be ran on a JVM. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 Nothing endures but change. - Heraclitus [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: OT: BlueDragon .NET uninstall
ill try tonight, thanks dave. but, wont load, i mean, like when you click on a link that is for a .csv file, and ie prompts to download/open/save, whatever, thats what happens, with .cfm files... ill try this tonight, tho...thnaks. tony On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:49:26 -0400, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you run the CFMX web server configuration utility? wont load.i get a popup box, asking what to do with a .cfm file. and yes, the mappings are there, and yes the xml file knows the .cfm files are to be parsed by the cf servlet When you say it won't load, what exactly happens? Do you get an error message about not being able to find a JVM or something like that? If so, you can just run it from the command prompt like this: cd \cfusionmx\lib c:\cfusionmx\runtime\jre\bin\java.exe -jar wsconfig.jar The file paths may be slightly off, but you should be able to figure out the correct paths on your system. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
for about an hour now I have been trying to figure out an equivalent to F12 (preview page in browser in DW) Isn't that the most useless feature ? I mean it is so much easier to open your browser on the test page, and just click on refresh every time your page is updated. Anyway, most of the time, a CF template cannot be accessed directly and must be called from another one containing a form or defining session variables, or whatsoever? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: OT: BlueDragon .NET uninstall
but, wont load, i mean, like when you click on a link that is for a .csv file, and ie prompts to download/open/save, whatever, thats what happens, with .cfm files... Well, ok, you need to run the web server configuration utility then. It's actually pretty easy to configure individual or multiple IIS instances to work with individual or clustered CFMX instances using this utility. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags
Hi All, I've been developing a series of custom tags (jComponents) that provide tab navigation, trees, and accordian panes (plus a utility box that shows/hides content). URL:http://clearsoftware.net/clear/?template=downloads.j Components Hey Joe -- sorry if it seems like I was trying to steal your limelight, I wasn't... quick question - I was looking at the output and it looks like you're using createuuid() to generate the id's for the various widget elements. Is that correct? If so, you might want to think about trying to use something else because CreateUUID() can cause Windows system clocks to accelerate due to an underlying bug in the JVM. http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/createuuid_c lock_speed.htm Fairly annoying -- I had to deal with the same issue at one point and created a couple of alternative functions to deal with it. Anyway, I thought you'd like to know. s. isaac dealey954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477DE=1 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: HELP! Forgot cfadmin password
cfmx. so what do I need to do? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
