CF Auction Tool?

2004-11-09 Thread Daniel Farmer
Does anyone know of a good auction tool written in CF that would also be 
customizable?

I remember an add from the Coldfusion Developer's Journal that would sometimes 
appear on the inside front page, but can't remember the name.

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RE: CFPOP fails on unicode-1-1-utf-7 ????

2004-11-09 Thread Paul Vernon
 if i recall correctly unicode-1-1-utf-7 is obsolete

Obsolete maybe, but still one of the most prevalent character set encodings
for bounce messages :( MS mail servers produce mails encoded with this
character set for instance... 

Overall about 70% of bounce messages I deal with are encoded with
unicode-1-1-utf-7 followed up with a mix of US-ASCII, WINDOWS-1252 and very
rarely utf-8. If I didn't handle them (utf-7 encoded mails) by choosing to
skip or delete them, the effectiveness of tracking bounce messages would be
pretty much killed.

Paul


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Re: CFPOP fails on unicode-1-1-utf-7 ????

2004-11-09 Thread Raymond Camden
Unfortunately, afaik, you can't do anything. You can delete the message however.


On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 01:02:47 -0500, Anders Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Raymond Camden wrote:
   You can, however, get one msg at a time wrapped in cftry.
 
 And when it craps out, do what with the message? Still
 can't read it. :(
 
 At 12:26 AM 11/9/2004, Paul Hastings wrote:
 if i recall correctly unicode-1-1-utf-7 is obsolete so don't expect much
 action from anybody on this.
 
 Ahhh. Sounds about right.
 
 I bought the CFX_POP3 tag as mentioned. It handled the
 problem email without any problems. Also it managed
 the .eml attachments, which CF_POP didn't. So I'm
 back in business. :)
 
 Anders
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Formatting problems

2004-11-09 Thread Stuart Kidd
Hi guys,

I've got a fairly basic problem

I have a form with a text area tag whereby I can cut and paste a word doc.

This form then inserts into a SQL database.

However when I try to cfoutput query the information all my carriage
returns are missing and everything is wrapped and no paragraphing or
anything.

Any ideas how to fix this problem?

Thanks in advance,

Saturday



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Re: Formatting problems

2004-11-09 Thread Mark Drew
Have you tried 
cfoutput#ParagraphFormat(qry.column)#/cfoutput

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:39:58 +, Stuart Kidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 I've got a fairly basic problem
 
 I have a form with a text area tag whereby I can cut and paste a word doc.
 
 This form then inserts into a SQL database.
 
 However when I try to cfoutput query the information all my carriage
 returns are missing and everything is wrapped and no paragraphing or
 anything.
 
 Any ideas how to fix this problem?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Saturday
 
 

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Re: Formatting problems

2004-11-09 Thread Stuart Kidd
No I hadn't but I have now!  It works.  :)

Thanks very much and have a good Tuesday!

Saturday


On 9/11/04 12:47 pm, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Have you tried 
 cfoutput#ParagraphFormat(qry.column)#/cfoutput
 
 On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:39:58 +, Stuart Kidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 I've got a fairly basic problem
 
 I have a form with a text area tag whereby I can cut and paste a word doc.
 
 This form then inserts into a SQL database.
 
 However when I try to cfoutput query the information all my carriage
 returns are missing and everything is wrapped and no paragraphing or
 anything.
 
 Any ideas how to fix this problem?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Saturday
 
 
 
 

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Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread Phil Williams
Hi,

I am developing an app for a local printing firm allowing them to resell
their products through a range of resellers sites. The way I'm doing it
is to use an IFRAME to pull in the menus and products direct from the
clients site.

The problem I have is that the IFRAME is not saving session variables
which causes big problems as the cart cannot be retained, logins, etc.
It looks like to me that when you refresh the main IFRAME pane, the CFID
is being regenerated each time thus clearing the vars.

My question is is this the best way forward? Why are the session vars
not being kept? How do I get them to stay? Why is the sky blue! ;-)

TIA!





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RE: Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread Micha Schopman
Are both locations in the same domain? 

Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
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Re: Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Phil Williams wrote:
 
 I am developing an app for a local printing firm allowing them to resell
 their products through a range of resellers sites. The way I'm doing it
 is to use an IFRAME to pull in the menus and products direct from the
 clients site.

IFRAMEs might not be a good idea in the light of the latest 
developments :-)


 The problem I have is that the IFRAME is not saving session variables
 which causes big problems as the cart cannot be retained, logins, etc.

Do you have this problem with every browser? Can you try it with 
FireFox and the LiveHTTPHeaders plugin so you can see what 
exactly you are sending to the server?

Jochem

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RE: Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread Micha Schopman
 IFRAMEs might not be a good idea in the light of the latest 
developments :-)

They still are... trust me, in a big web application you'll beg for
iframes. ;)

Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

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Farcry CMS: How well does farcry scale?

2004-11-09 Thread Katz, Dov B (IT)
Has anyone done scalability/performance testing with farcry cms?  
 
I'm considering implementing it for my site, but am concerned about
performance on a highly hit sites...
 
Anyone who has done some testing and could provide some feedback, it
would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks
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Oracle native drivers stop verifying (CF5)

2004-11-09 Thread Earl, George
For some functions we use the native Oracle 8.0 drivers supplied with CF 5.0
Enterprise to access Oracle 8i. They worked fine till Monday, now none of
them work and they will not verify. If we submit a query using one of the
native data sources it just never comes back - we do not get an error
message. Recreating the native data sources does not fix the problem.

Our Oracle people insist no changes were made in their area. Our server guy
says the same. Yet some of these data sources worked fine on Friday and none
worked on Monday . . .

Any ideas what might be going on?

We're running CF 5.0 Enterprise on Windows 2000 Adv Server . . .

George

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RE: cfmx odbc socket

2004-11-09 Thread Dave Watts
 We have Coldfusion 6.1. Enterprise on a Linux/UNIX Apache server.
 
 In the available database drivers the ODBC Socket (and MS 
 Access) is missing.
 
 Does anybody know if this is supposed to be so?
 Is there a solution to connect to an ODBC database anyway?

I don't know if the SequeLink package, which is what CFMX uses for ODBC, is
available for Unix. However, in your datasource driver list, I think you
should have a Unicode driver for Access that doesn't rely on SequeLink.

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Re: Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Micha Schopman wrote:
  IFRAMEs might not be a good idea in the light of the latest 
 developments :-)
 
 They still are... trust me, in a big web application you'll beg for
 iframes. ;)

In a big network environment I beg for a proxy that removes all 
iframes for user agents that identify themselves as MSIE. I 
prefer some broken applications over an infected network.

Jochem

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RE: Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread John Stanley
Jochem,
Thanks for the LiveHttpHeaders info. I just installed it. It rocks!!


Do you have this problem with every browser? Can you try it with 
FireFox and the LiveHTTPHeaders plugin so you can see what 
exactly you are sending to the server?

Jochem



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RE: Oracle native drivers stop verifying (CF5)

2004-11-09 Thread Dave Watts
 For some functions we use the native Oracle 8.0 drivers 
 supplied with CF 5.0 Enterprise to access Oracle 8i. They 
 worked fine till Monday, now none of them work and they will 
 not verify. If we submit a query using one of the native data 
 sources it just never comes back - we do not get an error 
 message. Recreating the native data sources does not fix the problem.
 
 Our Oracle people insist no changes were made in their area. 
 Our server guy says the same. Yet some of these data sources 
 worked fine on Friday and none worked on Monday . . .

Perhaps there were some network changes made?

You might try connecting from the CF server console using SQL*Plus.

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Re: Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Tuesday 09 Nov 2004 13:17 pm, Jochem van Dieten wrote:
 IFRAMEs might not be a good idea in the light of the latest
 developments :-)

Which ones are they then ?

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Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Dawson, Michael
I'm well aware of the need for a primary key, in addition to a sound
table design, however, I'd like someone else to word a response for
me.

A co-worker built a data file (a data table on an AS400) with six
fields.  The only unique key of the record is the entire record,
itself.  The combination of all six fields must be used to identify the
exact record.

This is how it's done, is the reply I get.  (I've been building
web-based apps using relational DBs for 8 years.  I have never used an
entire record as the primary key.)

I'm not passing an entire record through a URL or in hidden form fields.
Imagine the nightmare of maintaining this application...

A discussion of the existence of Oracle's sequences and SQL's identity
fields did little to sway this person's opinion.  This person's entire
development background is AS400 with a history of bad database design.

Now, I'm creating the table myself to do it right.  ;-)

Any thoughts?

Thanks
M!ke

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RE: Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread Micha Schopman
Iframes give you the ability to split your web application into smaller
pieces. With IE as well as FireFox you reach certain limits for what a
single document canvas can handle. Especially IE because it still lacks
a good garbage collector (currently implemented method is mark  sweep).

If you put all the components like dhtml menu's, dhtml treeview, dhtml
listviews, as well as the data and the rest of your interface including
several listeners, events, and stuff in only 1 window, you'll definitely
cripple the browser. Now try this out with an interface separated into
iframes, and notice the huge improvements in speed.

A pitty for the networks department and their Tux dolls, but I care more
about my customer satisfaction levels on using the web application. :)

Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

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Re: Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Thomas Chiverton wrote:
 On Tuesday 09 Nov 2004 13:17 pm, Jochem van Dieten wrote:
 
 IFRAMEs might not be a good idea in the light of the latest
 developments :-)
 
 Which ones are they then ?

http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?date=2004-11-08
http://www.uniras.gov.uk/l1/l2/l3/alerts2004/alert-3804.txt

http://www.edup.tudelft.nl/~bjwever/InternetExploiter.zip

Jochem

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RE: Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread Dave Watts
 A pitty for the networks department and their Tux dolls, but 
 I care more about my customer satisfaction levels on using 
 the web application. :)

Unfortunately, many customers are unsatisfied by having their machines
compromised.

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Re: Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread phil williams
Are both locations in the same domain? 

Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380

The data is being drawn from a dedicated IP address as opposed to a domain.  
There is an application.cfm file in there to retail the vars

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Re: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Ben Doom
Ask this person how they plan to remove duplicates, should they be 
accidentally created.  For that matter, ask how they plan to detect 
duplicates.

If that doesn't work, insist that you be referred to by your full name, 
date of birth, and social security number.  Don't answer to anything else.

Seriously?  Come up with a couple of scenarios where they're 
indespensible (like the duplicates) and lay them out.  If that doesn't 
work, scream and pull your hair out.

--Ben

Dawson, Michael wrote:
 I'm well aware of the need for a primary key, in addition to a sound
 table design, however, I'd like someone else to word a response for
 me.
 
 A co-worker built a data file (a data table on an AS400) with six
 fields.  The only unique key of the record is the entire record,
 itself.  The combination of all six fields must be used to identify the
 exact record.
 
 This is how it's done, is the reply I get.  (I've been building
 web-based apps using relational DBs for 8 years.  I have never used an
 entire record as the primary key.)
 
 I'm not passing an entire record through a URL or in hidden form fields.
 Imagine the nightmare of maintaining this application...
 
 A discussion of the existence of Oracle's sequences and SQL's identity
 fields did little to sway this person's opinion.  This person's entire
 development background is AS400 with a history of bad database design.
 
 Now, I'm creating the table myself to do it right.  ;-)
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Thanks
 M!ke
 
 

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RE: Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread Micha Schopman
O ofcourse.. but the exploitable abilities of iframes have been over
exaggerated by security firms. Security firms which take every
opportunity to get in the news no matter what needs to be done to
exploit such features.


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RE: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Gavin Brook
Personally I use an individual primary key myself. In the past I have seen
oracle databases with two fields as the primary key, but never a whole
record. The only justification I can see for having the whole record as the
primary key is to save space. Adding an extra column to store a primary key
requires the space to store it and the storage for the sequence. On modern
servers storage is not usually a problem, particularly with such a small
field. On older mainframes, it was.

One major justification for a single primary key is replication. If you have
multiple fields as a primary key, on a replicated system, there is a higher
chance that the same values will appear. It will at least cause more
headaches and more setting up initially. 

Gavin

-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 November 2004 14:01
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Primary Key Justification


I'm well aware of the need for a primary key, in addition to a sound table
design, however, I'd like someone else to word a response for me.

A co-worker built a data file (a data table on an AS400) with six fields.
The only unique key of the record is the entire record, itself.  The
combination of all six fields must be used to identify the exact record.

This is how it's done, is the reply I get.  (I've been building web-based
apps using relational DBs for 8 years.  I have never used an entire record
as the primary key.)

I'm not passing an entire record through a URL or in hidden form fields.
Imagine the nightmare of maintaining this application...

A discussion of the existence of Oracle's sequences and SQL's identity
fields did little to sway this person's opinion.  This person's entire
development background is AS400 with a history of bad database design.

Now, I'm creating the table myself to do it right.  ;-)

Any thoughts?

Thanks
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Re: Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Tuesday 09 Nov 2004 14:22 pm, Dave Watts wrote:
  A pitty for the networks department and their Tux dolls, but
  I care more about my customer satisfaction levels on using
  the web application. :)

 Unfortunately, many customers are unsatisfied by having their machines
 compromised.

FireFox supports IFRAME, and you can't be exploited by looking at a page 
unrelated to the exploit email, so what are you on about ?

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RE: Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread Micha Schopman
Jochem ofcourse refers to the buffer overflow vulnerability found in
Iframes :) And yes, it is a vulnerability but still I believe you must
take those not to seriously. Software always contains bugs, IE contains
them, FireFox contains them, Safari contains them, Opera contains them,
etc.etc. We can't browse with a piece of paper and a pencil, or clear
our apps from everything coming out as vulnerable. If that is the case
we all should stop writing for browsers .. ;)

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RE: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Tangorre, Michael
 From: Gavin Brook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Personally I use an individual primary key myself. In the 
 past I have seen oracle databases with two fields as the 
 primary key, but never a whole record. The only justification 
 I can see for having the whole record as the primary key is 
 to save space. Adding an extra column to store a primary key 
 requires the space to store it and the storage for the 
 sequence. On modern servers storage is not usually a problem, 
 particularly with such a small field. On older mainframes, it was.

I can not speak to AS400 as that was the technology in text books 10
years prior my college experience (yes I'm a youngin'). Anyway, any
space you might save will be lost when you do updates or selects in
which you want a specific record assuming there is a comparable stored
procedure concept on AS400. Consider the extra lines needed to determine
which record to update or select:

UPDATE  SET  WHERE a=1, b=2, c=3, e=4, f=5 etc etc etc.
SELECT  FROM .. WHERE a=1, b=2, c=3, e=4, f=5 etc etc etc.

Compared to

UPDATE  SET  WHERE a=1
SELECT  FROM .. WHERE a=1

That's not to say that there is never a need for compound keys comprised
of 2 or 3 columns such as those found in join tables, etc...


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Re: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread G
The primary key should flow from the question: What uniquely defines a
record? Compound primary keys are fairly common (at least in my company's
ugly Informix tables). I don't really see a scenario where the entire table
represents the primary key though. Primary keys uniquely identify some piece
of dataif the entire table is the key, what piece of data is being
uniquely identified



  From: Gavin Brook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Personally I use an individual primary key myself. In the
  past I have seen oracle databases with two fields as the
  primary key, but never a whole record. The only justification
  I can see for having the whole record as the primary key is
  to save space. Adding an extra column to store a primary key
  requires the space to store it and the storage for the
  sequence. On modern servers storage is not usually a problem,
  particularly with such a small field. On older mainframes, it was.





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RE: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Russel Madere
Since I have a little experience with older (as in early 90s) AS400 and
Business Basic development, I can attest to the fact that the tables are
done differently.  I have had to use an employee table that required a
primary key based upon 3 fields out of nine.  I defined a new primary
key for my relational work.

Older (see above) AS400 and RPG developers do not make good relational
database designers in general.  The relational model sometimes just is
beyond their comprehension.

Remind this developer that a web application has less horsepower than a
comparable AS400 application.  Because of that the database needs a
single field primary key.

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-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 8:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Primary Key Justification

I'm well aware of the need for a primary key, in addition to a sound
table design, however, I'd like someone else to word a response for
me.

A co-worker built a data file (a data table on an AS400) with six
fields.  The only unique key of the record is the entire record,
itself.  The combination of all six fields must be used to identify the
exact record.

This is how it's done, is the reply I get.  (I've been building
web-based apps using relational DBs for 8 years.  I have never used an
entire record as the primary key.)

I'm not passing an entire record through a URL or in hidden form fields.
Imagine the nightmare of maintaining this application...

A discussion of the existence of Oracle's sequences and SQL's identity
fields did little to sway this person's opinion.  This person's entire
development background is AS400 with a history of bad database design.

Now, I'm creating the table myself to do it right.  ;-)

Any thoughts?

Thanks
M!ke



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Re: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Dawson, Michael wrote:
 I'm well aware of the need for a primary key, in addition to a sound
 table design, however, I'd like someone else to word a response for
 me.
 
 A co-worker built a data file (a data table on an AS400) with six
 fields.  The only unique key of the record is the entire record,
 itself.  The combination of all six fields must be used to identify the
 exact record.

That is probably not smart performance wise:
- you will have 6-fold foreign keys which will have to cascade on 
every change to the record
- your PK-index will be huge
- some of the fields are bound to be non-unique thus reducing the 
efficiency of an index

Additional storage requirements of adding a field are easily 
offset by the reduced storage requirements of having an index 
over all six fields.

Add in a bit off application developer convenience and your 
co-worker has to come with better arguments to convince me.

Jochem

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Re: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Keith Gaughan
Dawson, Michael wrote:

 I'm well aware of the need for a primary key, in addition to a sound
 table design, however, I'd like someone else to word a response for
 me.
 
 A co-worker built a data file (a data table on an AS400) with six
 fields.  The only unique key of the record is the entire record,
 itself.  The combination of all six fields must be used to identify the
 exact record.

There's no justification for doing that. None!

 This is how it's done, is the reply I get.  (I've been building
 web-based apps using relational DBs for 8 years.  I have never used an
 entire record as the primary key.)

Say it with my, kids: Most. Useless. Table. Indexing. Ever.

 I'm not passing an entire record through a URL or in hidden form fields.
 Imagine the nightmare of maintaining this application...

Moreover, what use is the table when you have to pass around whole
tuples to do lookups on it?

A few things spring to mind: your cow-orker has no clue what
normalisation is; they

 A discussion of the existence of Oracle's sequences and SQL's identity
 fields did little to sway this person's opinion.  This person's entire
 development background is AS400 with a history of bad database design.

The thing is, they should know this *anyway*! Take the example of a
users table, like this

CREATE TABLE users
(
 user_name   VARCHAR(16) NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY,
 user_password   VARCHAR(32) NOT NULL, -- Holds MD5 hash of password
 -- ...other fields...
);

user_name makes sense as a primary key: it's uniques for each tuple, and
it's never going to change.

What is this person doing designing table schemas anyway?

 Now, I'm creating the table myself to do it right.  ;-)

Do, and if they complain then do some benchmarking to show them that 
your schema is just better. Then tell them that's how it's done.

-- 
Keith Gaughan, Developer
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Re: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Rob
I may be way out there, but I think using the whole row as a primary
key is exactly the opposite of a primary key.

Primary Key: A key that uniquely identifies each record and is used
as the primary method of accessing the records - File Structures ISBN
0-201-87401-6

So, unless the intention is to give every single field every time you
want any record - the suggestion is crazy talk - and a very bad
hashing algorithm at that :).

Tell'em to look here:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=Primary+Key+best+practice

Cheers
rob


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 08:01:18 -0600, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm well aware of the need for a primary key, in addition to a sound
 table design, however, I'd like someone else to word a response for
 me.
 
 A co-worker built a data file (a data table on an AS400) with six
 fields.  The only unique key of the record is the entire record,
 itself.  The combination of all six fields must be used to identify the
 exact record.
 
 This is how it's done, is the reply I get.  (I've been building
 web-based apps using relational DBs for 8 years.  I have never used an
 entire record as the primary key.)
 
 I'm not passing an entire record through a URL or in hidden form fields.
 Imagine the nightmare of maintaining this application...
 
 A discussion of the existence of Oracle's sequences and SQL's identity
 fields did little to sway this person's opinion.  This person's entire
 development background is AS400 with a history of bad database design.
 
 Now, I'm creating the table myself to do it right.  ;-)
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Thanks
 M!ke
 
 

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Re: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Gavin Brook wrote:
 Personally I use an individual primary key myself. In the past I have seen
 oracle databases with two fields as the primary key, but never a whole
 record.

In a many-to-many relation I often to have something like:
CREATE TABEL author_article {
  authorID INT NOT NULL,
  articleID INT NOT NULL,
  CONSTRAINT author_article_pk PRIMARY KEY (authorID, articleID),
  CONSTRAINT author_fk FOREIGN KEY (authorID) REFERENCES author,
  CONSTRAINT article_fk FOREIGN KEY (articleID) REFERENCES article
);


 One major justification for a single primary key is replication. If you have
 multiple fields as a primary key, on a replicated system, there is a higher
 chance that the same values will appear.

A combination of fields is unique or not, replication has nothing 
to do with that.

Jochem

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Re: RE: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread simon
I'm not sure I completely agree with that statement about RPG programmers - I 
began my career doing Relational Database design and programming for OS400 
using RPG.  Their design and development (if done right) should be completely 
sound, maybe more so than what's produced by others.  One thing you've got to 
keep in mind is that the old school RPG developers dealt with machines that had 
serious memory limitations... and so OS400 also had these limitations.  For 
example, variable names couldn't exceed 6 characters... allowing more 
characters meant using up extra memory.  The same line of thought applies to 
table, procedure, and column names as well.  That said, anyone with a lot of 
experience in RPG needs to do a little reading and get with the times if they 
want to do database design using modern hardware and/or modern software... and 
I'd encourage them to do so.  Developers that have never worked within the 
limitations that older systems used to apply don't really appreciate how easy 
they've got it ;)

~Simon

 
 Since I have a little experience with older (as in early 90s) AS400 and
 Business Basic development, I can attest to the fact that the tables are
 done differently.  I have had to use an employee table that required a
 primary key based upon 3 fields out of nine.  I defined a new primary
 key for my relational work.
 
 Older (see above) AS400 and RPG developers do not make good relational
 database designers in general.  The relational model sometimes just is
 beyond their comprehension.
 
 Remind this developer that a web application has less horsepower than a
 comparable AS400 application.  Because of that the database needs a
 single field primary key.
 
 Russel Madere
 Webmaster
 504.832.9835
 SunShine Pages by EATEL
 www.sunshinepages.com
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 8:01 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Primary Key Justification
 
 I'm well aware of the need for a primary key, in addition to a sound
 table design, however, I'd like someone else to word a response for
 me.
 
 A co-worker built a data file (a data table on an AS400) with six
 fields.  The only unique key of the record is the entire record,
 itself.  The combination of all six fields must be used to identify the
 exact record.
 
 This is how it's done, is the reply I get.  (I've been building
 web-based apps using relational DBs for 8 years.  I have never used an
 entire record as the primary key.)
 
 I'm not passing an entire record through a URL or in hidden form fields.
 Imagine the nightmare of maintaining this application...
 
 A discussion of the existence of Oracle's sequences and SQL's identity
 fields did little to sway this person's opinion.  This person's entire
 development background is AS400 with a history of bad database design.
 
 Now, I'm creating the table myself to do it right.  ;-)
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Thanks
 M!ke
 
 
 
 

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Re: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Aaron DC
This sounds familiar - strictly speaking, 3rd normal form databases are
typically sufficiently normalised for everyday use. I do not remember all
the terminology (dependencies, etc), but 4th/5th/Boyce-Codd (spelling?)
normal form would lead to an entity/table design not unlike the one you are
describing - each tuple/record can only be described uniquely by the
combination of 1 or more fields and no other way.

This theory is something we learnt at university, and imo, for 99% of cases
in the real world, the theory should be left there.

The co-worker is designing a fully normalised database table, but this does
not mean it is programmer / web / etc friendly. It is quite possible a
throw-back to AS400 / IBM development mentality where things are done the
right way. The AS400 hardware is a case in point, they are as old as the
hills and still going strong. I have no experience in AS400 development so
this is pure conjecture.

Neither of you are wrong per se. You have an opportunity to learn elite db
design and configuration. In return you can teach your AS400 co-worker about
web development and some nifty short-cuts (identity/sequences) that may make
his life at work a little easier.

Just some thoughts. HTH
Aaron

- Original Message -
From: Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 1:01 AM
Subject: Primary Key Justification


 I'm well aware of the need for a primary key, in addition to a sound
 table design, however, I'd like someone else to word a response for
 me.

 A co-worker built a data file (a data table on an AS400) with six
 fields.  The only unique key of the record is the entire record,
 itself.  The combination of all six fields must be used to identify the
 exact record.

 This is how it's done, is the reply I get.  (I've been building
 web-based apps using relational DBs for 8 years.  I have never used an
 entire record as the primary key.)

 I'm not passing an entire record through a URL or in hidden form fields.
 Imagine the nightmare of maintaining this application...

 A discussion of the existence of Oracle's sequences and SQL's identity
 fields did little to sway this person's opinion.  This person's entire
 development background is AS400 with a history of bad database design.

 Now, I'm creating the table myself to do it right.  ;-)

 Any thoughts?

 Thanks
 M!ke

 

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Re: Oracle native drivers stop verifying (CF5)

2004-11-09 Thread Janet Schmitt
At 08:40 AM 11/9/2004 -0500, you wrote:
For some functions we use the native Oracle 8.0 drivers supplied with CF 5.0
Enterprise to access Oracle 8i. They worked fine till Monday, now none of
them work and they will not verify. If we submit a query using one of the
native data sources it just never comes back - we do not get an error
message. Recreating the native data sources does not fix the problem.

What are you seeing in the CF logs (server, application, exception) when 
the lost queries are happening?  On the Oracle side, what are they seeing 
in the listener.log file?





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How to return values from a non-script module?

2004-11-09 Thread Anders Green
I've been looking around and I can't find the
non-cfscript version of return().

The docs on CFModule seem a little short on this. ;)

I want to return the .recordcount of a query
that gets run in a module.

Thanks guys,
Anders
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Re: Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread phil williams
Jochem ofcourse refers to the buffer overflow vulnerability found in
Iframes :) And yes, it is a vulnerability but still I believe you must
take those not to seriously. Software always contains bugs, IE contains
them, FireFox contains them, Safari contains them, Opera contains them,
etc.etc. We can't browse with a piece of paper and a pencil, or clear
our apps from everything coming out as vulnerable. If that is the case
we all should stop writing for browsers .. ;)

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I really appreciate the discussion this has spawned on the use of IFRAMEs but 
it won't be an issue in this case as all the resellers are invited guests so 
the security implications are minimal.

Any ideas however on how to tackle the session vars problem would be greatly 
appreciated! ;-)

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Re: Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten
phil williams wrote:
 
 Any ideas however on how to tackle the session vars problem would be greatly 
 appreciated! ;-)

What does LiveHTTPHeaders tell you? If you need help decrypting 
the headers just send the log to the list.

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Re: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Overhead. By defining every column a a primary key, you are basically
creating an index of the entire table. So any column that gets
updated, forces the index to update. Hence making the indexes pretty
worthless.

-Adam

On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:42:31 -0500, Tangorre, Michael
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: Gavin Brook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  Personally I use an individual primary key myself. In the
  past I have seen oracle databases with two fields as the
  primary key, but never a whole record. The only justification
  I can see for having the whole record as the primary key is
  to save space. Adding an extra column to store a primary key
  requires the space to store it and the storage for the
  sequence. On modern servers storage is not usually a problem,
  particularly with such a small field. On older mainframes, it was.
 
 I can not speak to AS400 as that was the technology in text books 10
 years prior my college experience (yes I'm a youngin'). Anyway, any
 space you might save will be lost when you do updates or selects in
 which you want a specific record assuming there is a comparable stored
 procedure concept on AS400. Consider the extra lines needed to determine
 which record to update or select:
 
 UPDATE  SET  WHERE a=1, b=2, c=3, e=4, f=5 etc etc etc.
 SELECT  FROM .. WHERE a=1, b=2, c=3, e=4, f=5 etc etc etc.
 
 Compared to
 
 UPDATE  SET  WHERE a=1
 SELECT  FROM .. WHERE a=1
 
 That's not to say that there is never a need for compound keys comprised
 of 2 or 3 columns such as those found in join tables, etc...
 
 
 

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RE: How to return values from a non-script module?

2004-11-09 Thread Paul Vernon
If you are using a module then set the caller.yourvar value as the result...

cfset caller.myrecordcount = myquery.recordcount

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Re: How to return values from a non-script module?

2004-11-09 Thread Rob
From within a module you would use the caller scope to set variables
in the page that called the module - meaning

[page 1]
cfmodule  template...

[in the module]
cfquery name=yadda...
...
caller.myvar = yadda.recordcount

[page 1 again]
cfdump var=#myvar#

It can get kind of hairy doing that, especially on larger system where
you looking at a page going... where the hell did that variable come
from - if your using cfmx I'd suggest checking out cffunction if
possible (that's beside the point though I guess)


On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:07:35 -0500, Anders Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been looking around and I can't find the
 non-cfscript version of return().
 
 The docs on CFModule seem a little short on this. ;)
 
 I want to return the .recordcount of a query
 that gets run in a module.
 
 Thanks guys,
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Re: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
I can see for having the whole record as the
primary key is to save space. Adding an extra column to store a primary key
requires the space to store it and the storage for the sequence.

Not even, you may save the space of an integer key in the table, but think 
about the index!



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Re: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
This is how it's done, is the reply I get.

Tell them the Titanic sunk because of the way it was done! ;-)


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Re: How to return values from a non-script module?

2004-11-09 Thread Raymond Camden
Another option is to make the return variable dynamic. I talked about
this at my presentation at MAX. Typically I build my custom tags so
that the result variable is dynamic, with a default:

cfparam name=attributes.result default=result type=variableName

This lets me then call my tag like so, cf_foo result=theResult

You can set a dynamic variable back a few ways, here is one:

cfset caller[attributes.result] = whatever


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 15:20:51 -, Paul Vernon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you are using a module then set the caller.yourvar value as the result...
 
 cfset caller.myrecordcount = myquery.recordcount
 
 Paul
 
 
 

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RE: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Michael:

I see three basic problems with this assuming that other tables need to be
linked to this table:
1.  Size - Since the entire table needs to be replicated in each table that
it is linked to, this is highly inefficient
2.  Seek Performance - Searching  and comparing long text fields can become
prohibitive depending on the size of the tables
3.  Update time - if the table is updated frequently, then each of the
linked tables need to be updated as well as do their indices

If this table is not linked to anything or is rarely changed and if disk
space and performance are not issues, then a re-writing is not worth it.
But if the table has too be modified, it is probably worth adding a primary
key and rolling to each linked table as either performance becomes an issue
or other maintenance is performed.

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 8:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Primary Key Justification


I'm well aware of the need for a primary key, in addition to a sound
table design, however, I'd like someone else to word a response for
me.

A co-worker built a data file (a data table on an AS400) with six
fields.  The only unique key of the record is the entire record,
itself.  The combination of all six fields must be used to identify the
exact record.

This is how it's done, is the reply I get.  (I've been building
web-based apps using relational DBs for 8 years.  I have never used an
entire record as the primary key.)

I'm not passing an entire record through a URL or in hidden form fields.
Imagine the nightmare of maintaining this application...

A discussion of the existence of Oracle's sequences and SQL's identity
fields did little to sway this person's opinion.  This person's entire
development background is AS400 with a history of bad database design.

Now, I'm creating the table myself to do it right.  ;-)

Any thoughts?

Thanks
M!ke



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Using Like Keyword for searching

2004-11-09 Thread Ben Densmore
I'm building in somewhat of a keyword search into a site I'm working
on. The search basically looks at what was typed into the search
field, does a query on a particular field in the database using the
like keyword and then returns a code or codes that is associated with
that particular field in the database.

The issue I'm having is if the value that is sotred in the db is something like 
Cases: 24 - 30 and a person types in 24 cases in the search field
the query doesn't find anything.

My query looks like:
cfquery name=search datasource=ds
 Select someFields
 from someTable
 where
 searchField Like '%#form.search#%'
/cfquery

Now if you type 24 or 24 for example it will return the Cases: 24 - 30.

I wanted to do either a verity or Full text search but the client
doesn't want me to. Does anyone have any ideas on what I can do to get
the query to find anything that matches what is typed in?

Thanks,
Ben

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RE: Using Like Keyword for searching

2004-11-09 Thread Russ
Perhaps something like this?

cfquery name=search datasource=ds
 Select someFields
 from someTable
 where
 cfset x=0
 cfloop list=#form.search# index=searchItem delimiters= 
Cfset x=x+1
cfif x gt 1AND/cfif searchField Like '%#searchItem#%'
 /cfloop
/cfquery

-Original Message-
From: Ben Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 10:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Using Like Keyword for searching

I'm building in somewhat of a keyword search into a site I'm working
on. The search basically looks at what was typed into the search
field, does a query on a particular field in the database using the
like keyword and then returns a code or codes that is associated with
that particular field in the database.

The issue I'm having is if the value that is sotred in the db is something
like 
Cases: 24 - 30 and a person types in 24 cases in the search field
the query doesn't find anything.

My query looks like:
cfquery name=search datasource=ds
 Select someFields
 from someTable
 where
 searchField Like '%#form.search#%'
/cfquery

Now if you type 24 or 24 for example it will return the Cases: 24 - 30.

I wanted to do either a verity or Full text search but the client
doesn't want me to. Does anyone have any ideas on what I can do to get
the query to find anything that matches what is typed in?

Thanks,
Ben



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RE: Using Like Keyword for searching

2004-11-09 Thread Gavin Brook
This should work...

-Original Message-
From: Ben Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 November 2004 15:48
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Using Like Keyword for searching


I'm building in somewhat of a keyword search into a site I'm working on. The
search basically looks at what was typed into the search field, does a query
on a particular field in the database using the like keyword and then
returns a code or codes that is associated with that particular field in the
database.

The issue I'm having is if the value that is sotred in the db is something
like 
Cases: 24 - 30 and a person types in 24 cases in the search field the
query doesn't find anything.

My query looks like:
cfquery name=search datasource=ds
 Select someFields
 from someTable
 where
 searchField Like '%#form.search#%'
/cfquery

Now if you type 24 or 24 for example it will return the Cases: 24 - 30.

I wanted to do either a verity or Full text search but the client doesn't
want me to. Does anyone have any ideas on what I can do to get the query to
find anything that matches what is typed in?

Thanks,
Ben



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Re: Using Like Keyword for searching

2004-11-09 Thread Gavin Brook
Ok, actual code on this one!

cfquery name=search datasource=ds
select someFields from someTable where 1=1
cfloop index=currKeyword list=#form.search# delimiters= 
AND searchField Like '%#currKeyword#%'  
/cfloop
/cfquery

-Original Message-
From: Gavin Brook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 November 2004 16:05
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Using Like Keyword for searching


This should work...

-Original Message-
From: Ben Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 November 2004 15:48
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Using Like Keyword for searching


I'm building in somewhat of a keyword search into a site I'm working on. The
search basically looks at what was typed into the search field, does a query
on a particular field in the database using the like keyword and then
returns a code or codes that is associated with that particular field in the
database.

The issue I'm having is if the value that is sotred in the db is something
like 
Cases: 24 - 30 and a person types in 24 cases in the search field the
query doesn't find anything.

My query looks like:
cfquery name=search datasource=ds
 Select someFields
 from someTable
 where
 searchField Like '%#form.search#%'
/cfquery

Now if you type 24 or 24 for example it will return the Cases: 24 - 30.

I wanted to do either a verity or Full text search but the client doesn't
want me to. Does anyone have any ideas on what I can do to get the query to
find anything that matches what is typed in?

Thanks,
Ben



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Delimeter problem

2004-11-09 Thread Asim Manzur
|153564587|0|SAT|FREEDMAN|||1|||10/17/2004|10/18/2004 

I need to move all the valus in a into individual Structure/Array Keys. so I 
can display them individually.


The above result I have it in a Varilable.
If I use the listGetAt() I can't move value becuase two || are todather(no 
space between them).

What is the best way to acheive this??

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Re: Using Like Keyword for searching

2004-11-09 Thread Ben Densmore
excellent. That worked like a charm. Thanks guys.

Ben


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:06:45 -, Gavin Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, actual code on this one!
 
 cfquery name=search datasource=ds
select someFields from someTable where 1=1
cfloop index=currKeyword list=#form.search# delimiters= 
AND searchField Like '%#currKeyword#%'
 
 
/cfloop
 /cfquery
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gavin Brook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 November 2004 16:05
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: Using Like Keyword for searching
 
 This should work...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 November 2004 15:48
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Using Like Keyword for searching
 
 I'm building in somewhat of a keyword search into a site I'm working on. The
 search basically looks at what was typed into the search field, does a query
 on a particular field in the database using the like keyword and then
 returns a code or codes that is associated with that particular field in the
 database.
 
 The issue I'm having is if the value that is sotred in the db is something
 like
 Cases: 24 - 30 and a person types in 24 cases in the search field the
 query doesn't find anything.
 
 My query looks like:
 cfquery name=search datasource=ds
 Select someFields
 from someTable
 where
 searchField Like '%#form.search#%'
 /cfquery
 
 Now if you type 24 or 24 for example it will return the Cases: 24 - 30.
 
 I wanted to do either a verity or Full text search but the client doesn't
 want me to. Does anyone have any ideas on what I can do to get the query to
 find anything that matches what is typed in?
 
 Thanks,
 Ben
 
 

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RE: Delimeter problem

2004-11-09 Thread Tim Blair
Asim,

 I need to move all the valus in a into individual 
 Structure/Array Keys. so I can display them individually.

If you're using MX, check this thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/msg16596.html

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RE: Delimeter problem

2004-11-09 Thread djones
I would use

cfset variableArray =
#listToArray(|153564587|0|SAT|FREEDMAN|||1|||10/17/2004|10/18/2004,
|)#
then use
#variableArray[1]#
#variableArray[2]#
#variableArray[3]#
#variableArray[4]#
and so on...

Thanks,

David


-Original Message-
From: Asim Manzur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 10:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Delimeter problem


|153564587|0|SAT|FREEDMAN|||1|||10/17/2004|10/18/2004

I need to move all the valus in a into individual Structure/Array Keys. so I
can display them individually.


The above result I have it in a Varilable.
If I use the listGetAt() I can't move value becuase two || are todather(no
space between them).

What is the best way to acheive this??



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Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield

2004-11-09 Thread Rick Faircloth
When a user puts in Quotation Marks in a Textarea formfield
the text gets cut off starting with the first quote...

How can I avoid this?

(I search the HOF archives but didn't find anything helpful...)

Thanks,

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Re: Delimeter problem

2004-11-09 Thread Qasim Rasheed
I tried this and it worked. 

cfset list = |153564587|0|SAT|FREEDMAN|||1|||10/17/2004|10/18/2004
cfdump var=#listtoarray( replace( list, '||', '| |', 'All' ), '|' )#




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 |153564587|0|SAT|FREEDMAN|||1|||10/17/2004|10/18/2004
 
 I need to move all the valus in a into individual Structure/Array Keys. so I 
 can display them individually.
 
 The above result I have it in a Varilable.
 If I use the listGetAt() I can't move value becuase two || are todather(no 
 space between them).
 
 What is the best way to acheive this??
 
 

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RE: Delimeter problem

2004-11-09 Thread Tim Blair
David,

 cfset variableArray =
 #listToArray(|153564587|0|SAT|FREEDMAN|||1|||10/17/2004|1
 0/18/2004,
 |)#
 then use
 #variableArray[1]#
 #variableArray[2]#
 #variableArray[3]#
 #variableArray[4]#
 and so on...

This is exactly what Asim tried to do without success -- the CF list
functions ignore empty list elements, but my understanding is that he
needs to retain those empty elements, hence my previous pointer to an
identical thread.

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Application Variables

2004-11-09 Thread Andrew Dixon
Hi Everyone

I have an application that is storing information in applications
variables. I need each of this variables to be available for about 1
hour . I have created a application.cfm file with a CFAPPLICATION tag
as follows:

cfapplication  name=theWebSite 
applicationTimeout=#CreateTimeSpan(0,1,0,0)#

Will this automatically remove variables after the timeout time if
they are not re-wrote, or will they stay there until the whole
application is not used by anyone for 1 hour?

Thanks

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RE: Delimeter problem

2004-11-09 Thread Tim Blair
Qasim,

 listtoarray(replace(list, '||', '| |', 'All'), '|')

This wouldn't work because there is actually an empty element *before*
the 153564587 item -- your code only replaces empty elements in the
middle of the series and would ignore those at the beginning or end.  Of
course you could simply add a space at both the beginning and end of the
string before it is parsed, which would get around the problem.

You still have the slight inconvenience of empty elements actually
containing a single space; what happens if one of the elements did
actually contain a single space?  You'd have no way of knowing the
difference between the real element and those that have been padded.

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Re: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield

2004-11-09 Thread Charlie Griefer
HTMLEditFormat()


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 When a user puts in Quotation Marks in a Textarea formfield
 the text gets cut off starting with the first quote...
 
 How can I avoid this?
 
 (I search the HOF archives but didn't find anything helpful...)
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield

2004-11-09 Thread Qasim Rasheed
use function preservceinglequotes if you are inserting those values in a DB


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 When a user puts in Quotation Marks in a Textarea formfield
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 How can I avoid this?
 
 (I search the HOF archives but didn't find anything helpful...)
 
 Thanks,
 
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RE: Application Variables

2004-11-09 Thread Ian Skinner
The latter, you will have to do something more sophisticated to remove the 
variables.  Something along the lines of storing their creation data/time and 
then removing the values after the hour is up.


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Re: Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread phil williams
 phil williams wrote:
  
  Any ideas however on how to tackle the session vars problem would be 
 greatly appreciated! ;-)
 
 What does LiveHTTPHeaders tell you? If you need help decrypting 
 the headers just send the log to the list.
 
Jochem

OK this has totally freaked me out now.  The damn app just decided to strat 
working!  I tested it with Firefox and the session vars were being kept.

I then tested with IE and it still worked...

I powered down my machine, unplugged it and threw it in the car, drove round 
the block for time, plugged it back in and the damn thing still worked! :-)

I'm really not sure why this has suddenly decided to play nioce when I didn't 
change a thing but thanks anyway for everyone fixing my app via brainwaves!

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Re: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Keith Gaughan
Claude Schneegans wrote:
I can see for having the whole record as the
 
 primary key is to save space. Adding an extra column to store a primary key
 requires the space to store it and the storage for the sequence.
 
 Not even, you may save the space of an integer key in the table, but think 
 about the index!

But there's no sense if saving space like that when you need a whole 
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Re: Session vars and IFRAME

2004-11-09 Thread Lawrence Ng
power of positive thinking my friend =) we need of it in the world.

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RE: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield

2004-11-09 Thread djones
I believe his issue is double quotes not single.

for instance.

input type=text name=name value=some textand some more

The quote in the middle of the value will cause a problem.

I am not positive but have you tried HTMLEditFormat or URLDecode?

Cant remember exactly and I cant test anything at the moment.

David



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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield


use function preservceinglequotes if you are inserting those values in a DB


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:29:31 -0500, Rick Faircloth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When a user puts in Quotation Marks in a Textarea formfield
 the text gets cut off starting with the first quote...

 How can I avoid this?

 (I search the HOF archives but didn't find anything helpful...)

 Thanks,

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RE: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield

2004-11-09 Thread djones
sorry I meant URLEncodeFormat not URLDecode

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I believe his issue is double quotes not single.

for instance.

input type=text name=name value=some textand some more

The quote in the middle of the value will cause a problem.

I am not positive but have you tried HTMLEditFormat or URLDecode?

Cant remember exactly and I cant test anything at the moment.

David



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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield


use function preservceinglequotes if you are inserting those values in a DB


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:29:31 -0500, Rick Faircloth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When a user puts in Quotation Marks in a Textarea formfield
 the text gets cut off starting with the first quote...

 How can I avoid this?

 (I search the HOF archives but didn't find anything helpful...)

 Thanks,

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RE: Delimeter problem

2004-11-09 Thread Pascal Peters
http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=507

Pascal

 -Original Message-
 From: Asim Manzur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 November 2004 16:21
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Delimeter problem
 
 |153564587|0|SAT|FREEDMAN|||1|||10/17/2004|10/18/2004
 
 I need to move all the valus in a into individual Structure/Array
Keys. so
 I can display them individually.
 
 
 The above result I have it in a Varilable.
 If I use the listGetAt() I can't move value becuase two || are
todather(no
 space between them).
 
 What is the best way to acheive this??
 
 

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RE: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield

2004-11-09 Thread Pascal Peters
HTMLEditFormat()

Pascal

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 From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 November 2004 17:30
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield
 
 When a user puts in Quotation Marks in a Textarea formfield
 the text gets cut off starting with the first quote...
 
 How can I avoid this?
 
 (I search the HOF archives but didn't find anything helpful...)
 
 Thanks,
 
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Search Results: Pagination Not Working

2004-11-09 Thread Jillian Koskie
I'm going out of my mind... this used to work, and I can't figure out
what I've changed to make it stop.  What -should- be happening: the
first 25 search results show, click 'next' and the next 25 show, etc.
Instead, ALL results show on the first page... when somebody clicks
next, they get ALL the results PLUS the 25 'next' results they should be
seeing.

My code:

!--- Advanced Search Include ---

!--- Determine the collection(s) to use for the search. ---
cfif IsDefined('form.collection')
cfset collection_list = form.collection
cfelseif IsDefined('url.collection')
cfset collection_list = url.collection
/cfif

cflock timeout=30 throwontimeout=no name=timeperiod
!--- 
Have we paginated past results?  
If so, use URL variables instead 
of the old form variables.
---
cfif IsDefined(url.timeperiod)
cfset timeperiod = #url.timeperiod#
cfelse
cfset timeperiod = #form.timeperiod#
/cfif

cfif ((IsDefined(url.startdate))
AND (len(url.startdate) is not 0))
cfset startdate = #url.startdate#
cfelse
cfset startdate = None
/cfif

cfif ((IsDefined(url.enddate))
AND (len(url.enddate) is not 0))
cfset enddate = #url.enddate#
cfelse
cfset enddate = None
/cfif

cfif ((IsDefined(form.startdate))
AND (len(form.enddate) is not 0))
cfset startdate = #form.startdate#
cfelse
cfset startdate = None
/cfif

cfif ((IsDefined(form.enddate))
AND (len(form.enddate) is not 0))
cfset enddate = #form.enddate#
cfelse
cfset enddate = None
/cfif
/cflock

!--- search for special char . is delimiter ---
cfset BadCharacterList =
,.[EMAIL PROTECTED](.)._.=.:.;.../.\.|.].[.}.{.~

cfloop index=BadChar list=#BadCharacterList# delimiters=.
cfif SearchInput CONTAINS BadChar
!--- View the Bad Character (for testing) ---
cfoutputBAD: #BadChar#/cfoutput

table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0
tr
td
span class=small
Search text cannot contain special characters
such as [EMAIL PROTECTED]br
br /Special characters allowed are .*'
/span
/td
/tr
/table
cfinclude
template=/epi_root/templates/generic_footer.cfm
/td/tr/table/td/tr/table/td/tr/table
cfabort /
/cfif
/cfloop

cflock timeout=30 throwontimeout=no name=search1
cfset newzzz = 
!--- make input sting all lower case ---
!--- cut begining and ending spaces ---
!--- standardize input quotes used ---
cfset newzzz = Replace(trim(lcase(SearchInput)),','',ALL)
!--- count quotes in input ---
!--- divide quote count by 2 ---
!--- drop decimal if odd quote and add 1 more loop ---
cfset qoutecount =
SpanExcluding(ArrayLen(ListToArray(newzzz,''))/2, .)+1
/cflock

!--- use for testing 
cfoutput
Loop Count: #qoutecount#br /
Newzzz: #newzzz#
/cfoutput
---

!--- start loop here ---
!--- loop to reformat search phrases ---
cflock timeout=30 throwontimeout=no name=search2
cfloop index=LoopCount from=1 to=#qoutecount#
!--- find info quoted ---
cfset str =
ReFind('[[:alnum:][:space:]\*\.\?-]*',newzzz,1,true)

!--- use for testing positon in input
string pos = #str.pos[1]#br
string length = #str.len[1]#br
---

cfif str.pos[1] neq 0
!--- cut info quoted ---
cfset theString = Mid(newzzz, str.pos[1],
str.len[1])

!--- if space found in cut quote replace with ~
---
cfset theString1 = Replace(theString,
,~,ALL)

!--- change cut quote from double to single
---
cfset theString1 =
Replace(theString1,'',',ALL)

!--- replace found phrase with cut phrase ---
cfset newzzz =
Replace(newzzz,theString,theString1,ALL)

!--- use for testing 
Cut String: #theString#BR
---
/cfif
/cfloop
/cflock

!--- delete non-paired quote ---
cflock timeout=30 throwontimeout=no name=search3
cfset newzzz = trim(Replace(newzzz,'','',ALL))

!--- convert search operatives ---
cfset newzzz = ReplacenoCase(newzzz, AND ,~AND~,ALL)
cfset newzzz = ReplacenoCase(newzzz, OR ,~OR~,ALL)
cfset 

Re: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)
Keith Gaughan wrote:

Claude Schneegans wrote:
  

I can see for having the whole record as the primary key is to save space. 
Adding an extra column to store a primary key
requires the space to store it and the storage for the sequence.



Not even, you may save the space of an integer key in the table, but think 
about the index!

  

But there's no sense if saving space like that when you need a whole 
tuple to do a lookup.

I think that was the point.

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RE: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Dawson, Michael
I want to thank everyone for their input.  There were many great
justifications and some pretty funny remarks!

Thanks again!
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Re: Delimeter problem

2004-11-09 Thread Asim Manzur
Thanks Tim and everyone.
That post really helpful and cflib UDF looks like a solution.


-A

Qasim,

 listtoarray(replace(list, '||', '| |', 'All'), '|')

This wouldn't work because there is actually an empty element *before*
the 153564587 item -- your code only replaces empty elements in the
middle of the series and would ignore those at the beginning or end.  Of
course you could simply add a space at both the beginning and end of the
string before it is parsed, which would get around the problem.

You still have the slight inconvenience of empty elements actually
containing a single space; what happens if one of the elements did
actually contain a single space?  You'd have no way of knowing the
difference between the real element and those that have been padded.

Tim.


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invalid signature errors?

2004-11-09 Thread Douglas Knudsen
Running CFMX 6.1 with the latest updater.  Got the below errors
showing up, anyone see these before?

Nov 9, 2004
   12:13 PM
   Error
   0
   aopscorecard
 
Invalid method signature: /Object; The specific sequence of files
included or processed is: D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\sales\aop\index.cfm
 
 
  Nov 9, 2004
   12:13 PM
   Error
   0
  
 
Invalid method signature: ava/lang/String;)V The specific sequence of
files included or processed is:
D:\JRun4\servers\cfusion\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war\CFIDE\administrator\settings\server_settings.cfm
 
 
  Nov 9, 2004
   12:13 PM
   Error
   0
  
 
Invalid method signature:
/tagext/BodyTag;ILjavax/servlet/jsp/JspWriter;)Ljavax/servlet/jsp/JspWriter;
The specific sequence of files included or processed is:
D:\JRun4\servers\cfusion\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war\CFIDE\administrator\settings\server_settings.cfm
 
 


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cfqueryparam Don't Work for Dates

2004-11-09 Thread David Manriquez
Hi there :

I was using a cfqueryparam tag to work with my queries and when i set some 
Datetime values  coldfusiion raise this error , 

note : sorry about the field names , i'm working on a Spanish database.

[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]Optional feature not implemented

SQL = SET DATEFORMAT DMY; INSERT INTO pla06_caratula 
(pla06_tipo_cliente,pla06_id_cliente_sp,pla06_ejecutivo_placement, 
pla06_poliza_anterior,pla06_compania_anterior,pla06_ramo, 
pla06_vigencia_desde,pla06_vigencia_hasta,pla06_vigencia_hora, 
pla06_fecha_limite_cotizar,pla06_moneda,pla08_id_tipo_cotizacion) 
VALUES (?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?)
Query Parameter Value(s) - 
Parameter #1 = 1 
Parameter #2 = 77046420-K 
Parameter #3 = 1 
Parameter #4 = 41234123 
Parameter #5 = 12 
Parameter #6 = 69 
Parameter #7 = {d '2004-11-09'} 
Parameter #8 = {d '2005-11-09'} 
Parameter #9 = 12:00 Hrs local 
Parameter #10 = {d '2004-11-23'} 
Parameter #11 = 1 
Parameter #12 = 1 Data Source = PLACEMENT

if i use a direct variable instead of cfqueryparam (type date)
this query works fine..

Any ideas?

The environment
Coldfusion 5 professional
MS SQL Server 2000
MDAC 2.8
Windows 2000 server

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Java to CFMX Question

2004-11-09 Thread Jeff Chastain
I am working with some Java code that I am trying to convert to CFMX again.  
This time, I am running into issues with a Java enumeration.  How do you 
declare an enumeration in CFMX?  CreateObject only works with classes (as far 
as I can tell).

The Java code I am attempting to duplicate is 

IProject iProject = projectManager.GetProject(126);

IRole leaderRole = 
iProject.GetRole(Plumtree.Remote.PRC.Collaboration.Security.RoleTypes.Leader);

... where Plumtree.Remote.PRC.Collaboration.Security.RoleTypes.Leader is an 
enumeration with 3 members (Guest, Leader, Member).

Can anybody offer any pointers?

Thanks
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Re: Primary Key Justification

2004-11-09 Thread Keith Gaughan
Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) wrote:

 Keith Gaughan wrote:
 
But there's no sense if saving space like that when you need a whole 
tuple to do a lookup.
 
 I think that was the point.

I know that's the point: I was just agreeing with the bloke.

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RE: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield

2004-11-09 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks for all the input everyone...

HTMLEditFormat() is helpingbut...

Before adding that code, my statement was
#Replace(Application.Article.Body, #Chr(13)#, br, All)#
to create paragraphs...

Now with HTMLEditFormat() added, I've got:

#HTMLEditFormat(Replace(Application.Article.Body, #Chr(13)#, br,
All))#

This code solves the quote issue, and leaves my paragraphs intact,
but not I've got br showing up in the text.

Does using HTMLEditFormat() make Replace() unnecessary?

Or how should the code be changed?

Thanks,

Rick


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  Subject: RE: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield


  HTMLEditFormat()

  Pascal

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   Subject: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield
  
   When a user puts in Quotation Marks in a Textarea formfield
   the text gets cut off starting with the first quote...
  
   How can I avoid this?
  
   (I search the HOF archives but didn't find anything helpful...)
  
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Re: cfqueryparam Don't Work for Dates

2004-11-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten
David Manriquez wrote:
 
 [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]Optional feature not implemented
 
 SQL = SET DATEFORMAT DMY; INSERT INTO pla06_caratula 
 (pla06_tipo_cliente,pla06_id_cliente_sp,pla06_ejecutivo_placement, 
 pla06_poliza_anterior,pla06_compania_anterior,pla06_ramo, 
 pla06_vigencia_desde,pla06_vigencia_hasta,pla06_vigencia_hora, 
 pla06_fecha_limite_cotizar,pla06_moneda,pla08_id_tipo_cotizacion) 
 VALUES (?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?)
 Query Parameter Value(s) - 
 Parameter #1 = 1 
 Parameter #2 = 77046420-K 
 Parameter #3 = 1 
 Parameter #4 = 41234123 
 Parameter #5 = 12 
 Parameter #6 = 69 
 Parameter #7 = {d '2004-11-09'} 
 Parameter #8 = {d '2005-11-09'} 
 Parameter #9 = 12:00 Hrs local 

Does MS SQL Server implement timezones? Does it even implement a 
TIME datatype?

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Re: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield

2004-11-09 Thread Donna French
I'm stabbing in the dark here, but I think you need to remove  from
around br ??? Help from CF'ers with more experience out there???

~ Donna


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:39:36 -0500, Rick Faircloth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for all the input everyone...
 
 HTMLEditFormat() is helpingbut...
 
 Before adding that code, my statement was
 #Replace(Application.Article.Body, #Chr(13)#, br, All)#
 to create paragraphs...
 
 Now with HTMLEditFormat() added, I've got:
 
 #HTMLEditFormat(Replace(Application.Article.Body, #Chr(13)#, br,
 All))#
 
 This code solves the quote issue, and leaves my paragraphs intact,
 but not I've got br showing up in the text.
 
 Does using HTMLEditFormat() make Replace() unnecessary?
 
 Or how should the code be changed?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Rick
 
 
 
 
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   From: Pascal Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:56 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield
 
 
   HTMLEditFormat()
 
   Pascal
 
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Sent: 09 November 2004 17:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield
   
When a user puts in Quotation Marks in a Textarea formfield
the text gets cut off starting with the first quote...
   
How can I avoid this?
   
(I search the HOF archives but didn't find anything helpful...)
   
Thanks,
   
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Re: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield

2004-11-09 Thread Douglas Knudsen
use HTMLEditFormat() for displaying the data in the text area only,
not for inserting into the DB.  Use cfqueryparam for DB insert/updates
to automagically escape stuffs.

Doug


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:39:36 -0500, Rick Faircloth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for all the input everyone...
 
 HTMLEditFormat() is helpingbut...
 
 Before adding that code, my statement was
 #Replace(Application.Article.Body, #Chr(13)#, br, All)#
 to create paragraphs...
 
 Now with HTMLEditFormat() added, I've got:
 
 #HTMLEditFormat(Replace(Application.Article.Body, #Chr(13)#, br,
 All))#
 
 This code solves the quote issue, and leaves my paragraphs intact,
 but not I've got br showing up in the text.
 
 Does using HTMLEditFormat() make Replace() unnecessary?
 
 Or how should the code be changed?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Rick
 
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Pascal Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:56 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield
 
 
   HTMLEditFormat()
 
   Pascal
 
-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 November 2004 17:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield
   
When a user puts in Quotation Marks in a Textarea formfield
the text gets cut off starting with the first quote...
   
How can I avoid this?
   
(I search the HOF archives but didn't find anything helpful...)
   
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RE: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield

2004-11-09 Thread Pascal Peters
The problem is that HTMLEditFormat is stripping CR/LF. Look at
http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=664

Pascal

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 November 2004 18:40
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield
 
 Thanks for all the input everyone...
 
 HTMLEditFormat() is helpingbut...
 
 Before adding that code, my statement was
 #Replace(Application.Article.Body, #Chr(13)#, br, All)#
 to create paragraphs...
 
 Now with HTMLEditFormat() added, I've got:
 
 #HTMLEditFormat(Replace(Application.Article.Body, #Chr(13)#, br,
 All))#
 
 This code solves the quote issue, and leaves my paragraphs intact,
 but not I've got br showing up in the text.
 
 Does using HTMLEditFormat() make Replace() unnecessary?
 
 Or how should the code be changed?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Rick
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Pascal Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:56 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield
 
 
   HTMLEditFormat()
 
   Pascal
 
-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 November 2004 17:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield
   
When a user puts in Quotation Marks in a Textarea formfield
the text gets cut off starting with the first quote...
   
How can I avoid this?
   
(I search the HOF archives but didn't find anything
helpful...)
   
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Re: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield

2004-11-09 Thread Charlie Griefer
you don't need br's in the textarea output.  use your replace()
function when you are displaying the data back to the user.



On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:46:06 -0500, Douglas Knudsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 use HTMLEditFormat() for displaying the data in the text area only,
 not for inserting into the DB.  Use cfqueryparam for DB insert/updates
 to automagically escape stuffs.
 
 Doug
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:39:36 -0500, Rick Faircloth
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks for all the input everyone...
 
  HTMLEditFormat() is helpingbut...
 
  Before adding that code, my statement was
  #Replace(Application.Article.Body, #Chr(13)#, br, All)#
  to create paragraphs...
 
  Now with HTMLEditFormat() added, I've got:
 
  #HTMLEditFormat(Replace(Application.Article.Body, #Chr(13)#, br,
  All))#
 
  This code solves the quote issue, and leaves my paragraphs intact,
  but not I've got br showing up in the text.
 
  Does using HTMLEditFormat() make Replace() unnecessary?
 
  Or how should the code be changed?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Rick
 
 
 
 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield
  
  
HTMLEditFormat()
  
Pascal
  
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 09 November 2004 17:30
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Problem with Quotation Marks in Textarea Formfield

 When a user puts in Quotation Marks in a Textarea formfield
 the text gets cut off starting with the first quote...

 How can I avoid this?

 (I search the HOF archives but didn't find anything helpful...)

 Thanks,

 Rick

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Re: cfqueryparam Don't Work for Dates

2004-11-09 Thread David Manriquez
David Manriquez wrote:

Does MS SQL Server implement timezones? Does it even implement a 
TIME datatype?

Jochem

Timezones, no (i guess) at least not in the systypes table
Time yes use a TimeStamp

MS SQL Built-In data Types.
bigint
binary
bit
char
datetime
decimal
float
image
int
money
nchar
ntext
numeric
nvarchar
real
smalldatetime
smallint
smallmoney
sql_variant
sysname
text
timestamp
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uniqueidentifier
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When two tables go to war (JOIN)

2004-11-09 Thread Stuart Kidd
Hi guys,

I've got two tables:

1 is full of articles (articleID, articleName, articleBody, authorID)
2 is full of authors (authorID, authorFirstName, authorSurname)

I would like to join them.

cfquery name=showArticle datasource=user020
SELECT *
FROM Articles
WHERE articleID = '#url.updateID#
/cfquery

And

cfquery name=getAuthor datasource=user020
SELECT authorID, authorFirstName, authorSurname
FROM Authors
/cfquery

Could somebody please explain how to join them so I only retrieve certain
articles (where articleID = #url.updateID#) but get all the Authors (as I
want to populate a list whereby the user can select who is the author of
this particular article).

Thanks very much guys,

Saturday



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Re: When two tables go to war (JOIN)

2004-11-09 Thread Greg Morphis
cfquery name=showArticle datasource=user020
SELECT a.*, b.authorID, b.authorFirstName, b.authorSurname
FROM Articles a, Authors b
WHERE a.authorID = b.authorID
AND a.articleID = '#url.updateID#
/cfquery


On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 18:22:27 +, Stuart Kidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 I've got two tables:
 
 1 is full of articles (articleID, articleName, articleBody, authorID)
 2 is full of authors (authorID, authorFirstName, authorSurname)
 
 I would like to join them.
 
 cfquery name=showArticle datasource=user020
 SELECT *
 FROM Articles
 WHERE articleID = '#url.updateID#
 /cfquery
 
 And
 
 cfquery name=getAuthor datasource=user020
 SELECT authorID, authorFirstName, authorSurname
 FROM Authors
 /cfquery
 
 Could somebody please explain how to join them so I only retrieve certain
 articles (where articleID = #url.updateID#) but get all the Authors (as I
 want to populate a list whereby the user can select who is the author of
 this particular article).
 
 Thanks very much guys,
 
 Saturday
 
 

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flashpaper printing

2004-11-09 Thread Rick Root
While at the MAX conference, I spoke to a support engineer about the 
print problems with flashpaper.  It was also brought up in our Get 
Ready for Blackstone session.  Nobody at Macromedia seemed to be like 
Yeah we know that's a problem

Let's tell them.

The support person suggested sending email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to suggest that they speed up the 
printing, and the more requests they get, the more the issue will be 
noticed.

I just sent my request.  If you think flashpaper printing is slow, send 
one yourself.  Let's use the power of community to enact some change!

Flashpaper is a cool product, but if my users can't print a four page 
document in under 30 minutes, I won't be using it.

  - Rick

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Exposing the operating system

2004-11-09 Thread SStewart
One of our other developers has a weird project

The jist of which is gathering document s to burn to CD. Has anyone worked
with operating system components , in this case exposing IMAPI?

 

Thanks all

 

sas

 

 

Scott A. Stewart, 

Web Application Developer

 

Engineering Consulting Services, Ltd. (ECS)

14026 Thunderbolt Place, Suite 100
Chantilly, VA 20151
Phone: (703) 471-8400
Fax: (703) 834-5527

 



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Re: invalid signature errors?

2004-11-09 Thread Douglas Knudsen
ok, this error seems to be surfacing around the use of Evaluate(),
according to a stack trace.  Odd.  Maybe the updater introduces a new
bug, eh?

Doug


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:16:57 -0500, Douglas Knudsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Running CFMX 6.1 with the latest updater.  Got the below errors
 showing up, anyone see these before?
 
 Nov 9, 2004
12:13 PM
Error
0
aopscorecard
 
 Invalid method signature: /Object; The specific sequence of files
 included or processed is: D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\sales\aop\index.cfm
 
   Nov 9, 2004
12:13 PM
Error
0
 
 Invalid method signature: ava/lang/String;)V The specific sequence of
 files included or processed is:
 D:\JRun4\servers\cfusion\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war\CFIDE\administrator\settings\server_settings.cfm
 
   Nov 9, 2004
12:13 PM
Error
0
 
 Invalid method signature:
 /tagext/BodyTag;ILjavax/servlet/jsp/JspWriter;)Ljavax/servlet/jsp/JspWriter;
 The specific sequence of files included or processed is:
 D:\JRun4\servers\cfusion\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war\CFIDE\administrator\settings\server_settings.cfm
 
 
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 http://www.cubicleman.com
 this is my signature, like it?
 


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Re: Exposing the operating system

2004-11-09 Thread Barney Boisvert
You should be able to do alot via either COM (windows) or CFEXECUTE
(*nix).  i don't know what the windows side looks like, but it
wouldn't be too much work to collect files and burn to disk on linux. 
The bigger problem would be single threading access (or at least not
letting more threads than you've got burners), and switching the CDs
in and out.

cheers,
barneyb


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One of our other developers has a weird project
 
 The jist of which is gathering document s to burn to CD. Has anyone worked
 with operating system components , in this case exposing IMAPI?
 
 Thanks all
 
 sas
 
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OT: CC Gateway question

2004-11-09 Thread Mark A Kruger
Among the online gateways out there - who does everyone like?

I'm having trouble with Atuhorize.net.  Using an auth_only followed by a
batch previous auth capture.  Recenty we turned on Address verification.

If I do an auth only and it comes back as declined due to AVS, it turns
out that the auth is still created on the customers card.  It is up to the
issuing bank to decline and remove it. Authorize.net provides no way to VOID
an auth_only that has been declined due to AVS. My customer does high dollar
transactions (usually between 500 and 1200 per transaction).  So if they get
the Address wrong that auth sits on the card for days until the bank
officially declines the card.

Do all the gateways work this way?  Do any of them have a way to remove an
auth from a card if it's declined via AVS?  The irony is, if they turn off
the AVS they can often void the transaction before it's shipped (sigh). Does
anyone out there have any ideas on this?  Any one know of a gateway that
works differently or gives different options?

-mark

Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MSCE
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www.necfug.com
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RE: When two tables go to war (JOIN)

2004-11-09 Thread Pascal Peters
Don't join them, there is no reason to in this case. Use 2 queries.

Pascal

 -Original Message-
 From: Stuart Kidd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 November 2004 19:22
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: When two tables go to war (JOIN)
 
 Hi guys,
 
 I've got two tables:
 
 1 is full of articles (articleID, articleName, articleBody, authorID)
 2 is full of authors (authorID, authorFirstName, authorSurname)
 
 I would like to join them.
 
 cfquery name=showArticle datasource=user020
 SELECT *
 FROM Articles
 WHERE articleID = '#url.updateID#
 /cfquery
 
 And
 
 cfquery name=getAuthor datasource=user020
 SELECT authorID, authorFirstName, authorSurname
 FROM Authors
 /cfquery
 
 Could somebody please explain how to join them so I only retrieve
certain
 articles (where articleID = #url.updateID#) but get all the Authors
(as I
 want to populate a list whereby the user can select who is the author
of
 this particular article).
 
 Thanks very much guys,
 
 Saturday
 
 
 
 

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RE: When two tables go to war (JOIN)

2004-11-09 Thread Ray Champagne
Doesn't that create more overhead?

Ray

At 01:59 PM 11/9/2004, you wrote:
Don't join them, there is no reason to in this case. Use 2 queries.

Pascal

  -Original Message-
  From: Stuart Kidd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 09 November 2004 19:22
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: When two tables go to war (JOIN)
 
  Hi guys,
 
  I've got two tables:
 
  1 is full of articles (articleID, articleName, articleBody, authorID)
  2 is full of authors (authorID, authorFirstName, authorSurname)
 
  I would like to join them.
 
  cfquery name=showArticle datasource=user020
  SELECT *
  FROM Articles
  WHERE articleID = '#url.updateID#
  /cfquery
 
  And
 
  cfquery name=getAuthor datasource=user020
  SELECT authorID, authorFirstName, authorSurname
  FROM Authors
  /cfquery
 
  Could somebody please explain how to join them so I only retrieve
certain
  articles (where articleID = #url.updateID#) but get all the Authors
(as I
  want to populate a list whereby the user can select who is the author
of
  this particular article).
 
  Thanks very much guys,
 
  Saturday
 
 
 
 



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Re: When two tables go to war (JOIN)

2004-11-09 Thread Greg Morphis
I'm sorry I have to disagree...
I'd much rather make one call to the DB and get all of my results in 1
query. It's faster.



On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 19:59:14 +0100, Pascal Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't join them, there is no reason to in this case. Use 2 queries.
 
 Pascal
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Stuart Kidd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 09 November 2004 19:22
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: When two tables go to war (JOIN)
 
  Hi guys,
 
  I've got two tables:
 
  1 is full of articles (articleID, articleName, articleBody, authorID)
  2 is full of authors (authorID, authorFirstName, authorSurname)
 
  I would like to join them.
 
  cfquery name=showArticle datasource=user020
  SELECT *
  FROM Articles
  WHERE articleID = '#url.updateID#
  /cfquery
 
  And
 
  cfquery name=getAuthor datasource=user020
  SELECT authorID, authorFirstName, authorSurname
  FROM Authors
  /cfquery
 
  Could somebody please explain how to join them so I only retrieve
 certain
  articles (where articleID = #url.updateID#) but get all the Authors
 (as I
  want to populate a list whereby the user can select who is the author
 of
  this particular article).
 
  Thanks very much guys,
 
  Saturday
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: When two tables go to war (JOIN)

2004-11-09 Thread Barney Boisvert
Think about how much more crap you gotta send back to the app server
if you do it in one query.  Not to mention the fact that you're
requestion to totally different types of data that have exactly zero
to do with eachother.

Say you've got 50 authors.  If you do a join, you're going to be
pulling the full text of the article back across the network 50 times,
rather than once if you do it with separate queries.

No ifs, ands, or buts, two separate queries is the way to go.

cheers,
barneyb

On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:08:05 -0600, Greg Morphis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm sorry I have to disagree...
 I'd much rather make one call to the DB and get all of my results in 1
 query. It's faster.
 
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RE: When two tables go to war (JOIN)

2004-11-09 Thread Pascal Peters
I don't see why. He is talking about an update/insert form with a select
populated by authors. To Let's say we have 100 authors, this would mean
that we get the article info 100x. We also need to make an outer join to
get all the authors.

For such a form: 1 query to get the article's data  1 query to get the
authors to fill the select.

Pascal

 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 November 2004 20:02
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: When two tables go to war (JOIN)
 
 Doesn't that create more overhead?
 
 Ray
 

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RE: When two tables go to war (JOIN)

2004-11-09 Thread Pascal Peters
I seriously doubt that. The article body is most likely a CLOB. So you
want to retrieve that 100x just because you have 100 authors Don't
tell me this would be faster.

Pascal

 -Original Message-
 From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 November 2004 20:08
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: When two tables go to war (JOIN)
 
 I'm sorry I have to disagree...
 I'd much rather make one call to the DB and get all of my results in 1
 query. It's faster.
 
 
 
 On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 19:59:14 +0100, Pascal Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  Don't join them, there is no reason to in this case. Use 2 queries.
 
  Pascal
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Stuart Kidd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 09 November 2004 19:22
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: When two tables go to war (JOIN)
  
   Hi guys,
  
   I've got two tables:
  
   1 is full of articles (articleID, articleName, articleBody,
authorID)
   2 is full of authors (authorID, authorFirstName, authorSurname)
  
   I would like to join them.
  
   cfquery name=showArticle datasource=user020
   SELECT *
   FROM Articles
   WHERE articleID = '#url.updateID#
   /cfquery
  
   And
  
   cfquery name=getAuthor datasource=user020
   SELECT authorID, authorFirstName, authorSurname
   FROM Authors
   /cfquery
  
   Could somebody please explain how to join them so I only retrieve
  certain
   articles (where articleID = #url.updateID#) but get all the
Authors
  (as I
   want to populate a list whereby the user can select who is the
author
  of
   this particular article).
  
   Thanks very much guys,
  
   Saturday
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 

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RE: When two tables go to war (JOIN)

2004-11-09 Thread Burns, John D
Depending on the app, if this is a key feature, it'd be worth caching
(either via the provided attributes in the cfquery tag or by storing
the results in a scope (application or session).  Doing it as one query
just to save calls to the DB is rediculous.  That's like saying to put
all of your business logic, display code, etc in one file because then
you know where everything is.  It may make it easier to have everything
in one place, but that doesn't make it right.  Unless the data is truly
related and requires a join, I would do it as 2 separate queries.  Think
of all of the overhead in this example that would come with all of the
authors that don't have an article in the record set. You'd still have
blank columns for all of the article fields.

John Burns 

-Original Message-
From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: When two tables go to war (JOIN)

I'm sorry I have to disagree...
I'd much rather make one call to the DB and get all of my results in 1
query. It's faster.



On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 19:59:14 +0100, Pascal Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't join them, there is no reason to in this case. Use 2 queries.
 
 Pascal
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Stuart Kidd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 09 November 2004 19:22
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: When two tables go to war (JOIN)
 
  Hi guys,
 
  I've got two tables:
 
  1 is full of articles (articleID, articleName, articleBody, 
  authorID)
  2 is full of authors (authorID, authorFirstName, authorSurname)
 
  I would like to join them.
 
  cfquery name=showArticle datasource=user020 SELECT * FROM 
  Articles WHERE articleID = '#url.updateID# /cfquery
 
  And
 
  cfquery name=getAuthor datasource=user020 SELECT authorID, 
  authorFirstName, authorSurname FROM Authors /cfquery
 
  Could somebody please explain how to join them so I only retrieve
 certain
  articles (where articleID = #url.updateID#) but get all the Authors
 (as I
  want to populate a list whereby the user can select who is the 
  author
 of
  this particular article).
 
  Thanks very much guys,
 
  Saturday
 
 
 
 
 
 



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RE: When two tables go to war (JOIN)

2004-11-09 Thread Mark A Kruger
If one query is a lookup query (authors) it can be safely cached - over time
this can be less overhead. Plus, if I understand what he is trying to do, he
would end up with an outer join and the longText field would be duplicated
in every row. That is not efficient by any means.  If you really want 1 call
to the db - put both queries in a stored proc and return 2 result sets : )

-Original Message-
From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 1:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: When two tables go to war (JOIN)


I'm sorry I have to disagree...
I'd much rather make one call to the DB and get all of my results in 1
query. It's faster.



On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 19:59:14 +0100, Pascal Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't join them, there is no reason to in this case. Use 2 queries.

 Pascal



  -Original Message-
  From: Stuart Kidd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 09 November 2004 19:22
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: When two tables go to war (JOIN)
 
  Hi guys,
 
  I've got two tables:
 
  1 is full of articles (articleID, articleName, articleBody, authorID)
  2 is full of authors (authorID, authorFirstName, authorSurname)
 
  I would like to join them.
 
  cfquery name=showArticle datasource=user020
  SELECT *
  FROM Articles
  WHERE articleID = '#url.updateID#
  /cfquery
 
  And
 
  cfquery name=getAuthor datasource=user020
  SELECT authorID, authorFirstName, authorSurname
  FROM Authors
  /cfquery
 
  Could somebody please explain how to join them so I only retrieve
 certain
  articles (where articleID = #url.updateID#) but get all the Authors
 (as I
  want to populate a list whereby the user can select who is the author
 of
  this particular article).
 
  Thanks very much guys,
 
  Saturday
 
 
 
 





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