Re: Is there a better way to do this?

2006-02-22 Thread Will Tomlinson
Will, is that a typo? You're outputting from a CFC! BLASPHEMY! :-)

ohhh yeah, and I LOVE it!  heeheheee

Rick already gave me a black eye for using cfcontent in a cfc. :)

I asked about it and was given permission from an oo ninja master, whose name 
shall go unmentioned. :)

Will

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RE: Announcing SeeStack: Free Stack Trace Analysis Utility

2006-02-22 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J \(ASI-AIT\)
Patrick,

It's very cool of you to place something like this out there for
everyone.

Is there anyway to get a version that can run locally?  I have this
problem with passing stack traces over the internet, I'm afraid that I
could inadvertently pass info that reveals things about my setup that I
don't want the evil doers to see.

Steve


-Original Message-
From: Patrick Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:07 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Announcing SeeStack: Free Stack Trace Analysis Utility


Greetings, all. We've been using a simple home-grown utility for parsing
JRun/ColdFusion stack traces for some time now, and since so many of our
consulting customers have asked us for such a tool, it occurred to us
that the broader community might find it useful as well. You can upload
a stack trace file (text mime-type only), or paste one into the tool.
SeeStack loops over the trace, presents the stacks/threads in a more
readable fashion, and reports some basic summary information about
thread states at the point the trace was taken. 
No charge to use it, although we may offer a Pro edition down the
road. Any and all feedback welcomed (use the SeeFusion Support address).
You can find the tool here: 

http://www.seefusion.com/seestack/seestack.cfm 

Best,
Patrick



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Re: coldfusion and SQL2005

2006-02-22 Thread Aaron Rouse
Yeah, but if you have a company with maybe a dozen users and they are
running a Win2k server on a dual CPU box, it seems like a dozen CAL licenses
would be a good bit cheaper than a per of CPU licenses.  I just am assuming
since if on Win2k you could not section off the second CPU in the box and
would have to get both CPU licenses.  I know when I was looking at Oracle
Standard Edition that it would have been a great deal cheaper since per user
was $150 vs I think something like $6k or 7k per CPU but no idea if their
per user worked out the same way since never asked them.

On 2/21/06, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 According to Microsoft you would need a CAL for each web user (as they are
 technically running queries on your database).  Personally I think this is
 ridiculous, but this is MS's official stance.  So unless you have an
 intranet, I'm not sure if you can get away with CAL licensing.

 Russ

  -Original Message-
  From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:22 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: coldfusion and SQL2005
 
  Seems like for small intranets(that out grow the needs of the Express
  edition) that the CAL per actual user would come out a lot cheaper than
  buying the per processor licensing.
 
  On 2/16/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   In any case, the Dell rep is wrong, wrong, wrong. This comes up
  frequently
   on the list; you either need one CAL per actual user, or a
 per-processor
   license which supports any number of users. For most web applications,
 a
   per-processor license is cheaper. All of this is posted quite clearly
 on
   microsoft.com.
  
  
 
 
 

 

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RE: cfsavecontent and cfqueryparam

2006-02-22 Thread Snake
FILE I/O happens with every page request.
Every page has to be loaded from the disk, every cfinclude loads a file off
a disk, every use of a custom tag, has to loa dthe tag file.
Rather hard to avoid I/O

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 21 February 2006 17:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfsavecontent and cfqueryparam

I thought about that, but didn't mention it. File I/O can be hideous for
performance if you are doing this a lot in an environment which needs to be
fast. I would consider it a last resort.  This could open up even more doors
for code insertion.  

~Brad


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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfsavecontent and cfqueryparam

just thought of a nasty workaround (untested):
write it to file then include it!





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RE: A very specific message board/forum question...

2006-02-22 Thread Che Vilnonis
I'm all for using the best product as well... but it would be *cool* if it
were CF. And honestly, I'm kind of surprised that none exist. The fact that
there is no equivalent to phpBB or vBulletin may demonstrate the fact that
there is no market for one.

And yes, Ray's Galleon rocks!

-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: A very specific message board/forum question...


Che Vilnonis wrote:

 I wish an entrepreneurial CF company would create a CF board that matched
 feature to feature and then some! I'd buy it.

I started to with cfmbb (www.cfmbb.org)... but I went down a path I
wasn't prepared to go down (making it multilingual) which caused the
code to be REALLY hideous.

It actually does support some of the phpbb features, but it's so very
far from being good.  I just fixed the BBML support in it.

Honestly, if I decided i wanted to go back to working on a message
board, I'd probably scrap cfmbb and use Ray's Galleon Forums as the base
product.

Rick



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RE: A very specific message board/forum question...

2006-02-22 Thread Burns, John D
There's definitely a market. Just no one has stepped up and met the
need. 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer
 

-Original Message-
From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:10 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: A very specific message board/forum question...

I'm all for using the best product as well... but it would be *cool* if
it were CF. And honestly, I'm kind of surprised that none exist. The
fact that there is no equivalent to phpBB or vBulletin may demonstrate
the fact that there is no market for one.

And yes, Ray's Galleon rocks!

-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: A very specific message board/forum question...


Che Vilnonis wrote:

 I wish an entrepreneurial CF company would create a CF board that 
 matched feature to feature and then some! I'd buy it.

I started to with cfmbb (www.cfmbb.org)... but I went down a path I
wasn't prepared to go down (making it multilingual) which caused the
code to be REALLY hideous.

It actually does support some of the phpbb features, but it's so very
far from being good.  I just fixed the BBML support in it.

Honestly, if I decided i wanted to go back to working on a message
board, I'd probably scrap cfmbb and use Ray's Galleon Forums as the base
product.

Rick





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Re: A very specific message board/forum question...

2006-02-22 Thread Raymond Camden
I have to say I'm really surprised by this. I don't mean to say my
product is the best, there are other good forums apps out there. But
do folks truly think that the only good CF forum would be a phpBB
clone? Maybe it's just personal bias, but I've never liked forums
built upon it. I don't think they are bad per se - just a bit over
complicated.

On 2/22/06, Burns, John D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There's definitely a market. Just no one has stepped up and met the
 need.


 John Burns
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
 Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer


 -Original Message-
 From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:10 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: A very specific message board/forum question...

 I'm all for using the best product as well... but it would be *cool* if
 it were CF. And honestly, I'm kind of surprised that none exist. The
 fact that there is no equivalent to phpBB or vBulletin may demonstrate
 the fact that there is no market for one.

 And yes, Ray's Galleon rocks!

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:49 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: A very specific message board/forum question...


 Che Vilnonis wrote:
 
  I wish an entrepreneurial CF company would create a CF board that
  matched feature to feature and then some! I'd buy it.

 I started to with cfmbb (www.cfmbb.org)... but I went down a path I
 wasn't prepared to go down (making it multilingual) which caused the
 code to be REALLY hideous.

 It actually does support some of the phpbb features, but it's so very
 far from being good.  I just fixed the BBML support in it.

 Honestly, if I decided i wanted to go back to working on a message
 board, I'd probably scrap cfmbb and use Ray's Galleon Forums as the base
 product.

 Rick





 

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ActiveSpell and tinyMCE

2006-02-22 Thread Brian Peddle
Has anyone implemented ActiveSpell and tinyMCE and have tips on doing so?

Thanks!



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RE: A very specific message board/forum question...

2006-02-22 Thread Che Vilnonis
From a business perspective, I would have to disagree. I count on my forum
members to help generate additional advertising revenue on several of the
sites I have built through the years. And my forum members are clear when
they say that they *love* the 'bells and whistles' on my forums that have
'bells and whistles' and demand them on forums that don not have them.

From a programmers perspective, I agree with you Ray... less *is* more.

~Ché

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: A very specific message board/forum question...


I have to say I'm really surprised by this. I don't mean to say my
product is the best, there are other good forums apps out there. But
do folks truly think that the only good CF forum would be a phpBB
clone? Maybe it's just personal bias, but I've never liked forums
built upon it. I don't think they are bad per se - just a bit over
complicated.

On 2/22/06, Burns, John D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There's definitely a market. Just no one has stepped up and met the
 need.


 John Burns
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
 Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer


 -Original Message-
 From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:10 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: A very specific message board/forum question...

 I'm all for using the best product as well... but it would be *cool* if
 it were CF. And honestly, I'm kind of surprised that none exist. The
 fact that there is no equivalent to phpBB or vBulletin may demonstrate
 the fact that there is no market for one.

 And yes, Ray's Galleon rocks!

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:49 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: A very specific message board/forum question...


 Che Vilnonis wrote:
 
  I wish an entrepreneurial CF company would create a CF board that
  matched feature to feature and then some! I'd buy it.

 I started to with cfmbb (www.cfmbb.org)... but I went down a path I
 wasn't prepared to go down (making it multilingual) which caused the
 code to be REALLY hideous.

 It actually does support some of the phpbb features, but it's so very
 far from being good.  I just fixed the BBML support in it.

 Honestly, if I decided i wanted to go back to working on a message
 board, I'd probably scrap cfmbb and use Ray's Galleon Forums as the base
 product.

 Rick









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Re: A very specific message board/forum question...

2006-02-22 Thread Robert Everland III
The reason I like them is that they have a nice interface. I don't know what 
exactly about them pleases my eye, but it just does. I go to quite a bit of 
foums that use them and how everything is laid out is very nice. If someone 
were to clone the look and feel and add smileys, I think it would be a 
contender with PHPBB.



Bob

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Re: OT: embedding audio and playing with javascript

2006-02-22 Thread Cutter (CF-Talk)
The following blog entry from Christian Cantrell may be able to shed 
some light for you Rick...

http://weblogs.macromedia.com/cantrell/archives/2005/06/flash_js_integr.cfm

Cutter

Rick Root wrote:

so, I'd like to add optional audio alerts to my chat app... and I did 
that using the embed tag and just had the javascript play the sound 
when appropriate.  I used .au files for the audio.

Some people surfed in and got the quicktime plugin alert because they 
were using mozilla and didn't have quicktime installed.  I know *I* 
would find that to be obnoxious.

I was thinking that using a flash movie to play the sounds might work 
better.. more likely to be installed.  Javascript can cause actions to 
occur in flash movies, right?

I've used actionscript to call javascript functions on a page before, 
but never used javascript to trigger an event in the flash movie.

Ultimately, I'd just like a little 1x1 flash movie that could play 2-3 
sounds.. which would be configurable via url parameter to the flash 
movie itself... and then allow javascript to play the different sounds 
by calling some kind of actionscript method... playSound(1) playsound(2) 
etc.

Rick



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Re: Is there a better way to do this?

2006-02-22 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Wednesday 22 February 2006 04:33, Michael T. Tangorre wrote:
 Will, is that a typo? You're outputting from a CFC! BLASPHEMY! :-)

We've got an excellent set of GUI components built in CFCs, it rocks.

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RE: cfsavecontent and cfqueryparam

2006-02-22 Thread Dave Watts
 FILE I/O happens with every page request.
 Every page has to be loaded from the disk, every cfinclude 
 loads a file off a disk, every use of a custom tag, has to 
 loa dthe tag file. Rather hard to avoid I/O

In a production environment, if you're not writing CF files on the fly then
executing them with CFINCLUDE, you can often avoid much of this file I/O
using the Trusted Cache option.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: Is there a better way to do this?

2006-02-22 Thread Andy Matthews
Care to share them Thomas?

;)

!//--
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ICGLink, Inc.
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-Original Message-
From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Is there a better way to do this?


On Wednesday 22 February 2006 04:33, Michael T. Tangorre wrote:
 Will, is that a typo? You're outputting from a CFC! BLASPHEMY! :-)

We've got an excellent set of GUI components built in CFCs, it rocks.

--

Tom Chiverton
Advanced ColdFusion Programmer



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SOT: Mail-list / web forum software

2006-02-22 Thread Katz, Dov B \(IT\)
Guys,

Somewhat off topic, as this is non-cf by nature.

Does anyone know of a good opensource mailinglist/threaded discussion
forum server which provides web access as well as email-based groups?

Capabilites Needed:
1) web app for viewing lists, threads, managing subscription (java
preferred)
2) rss from webapp
3) mailserver for sending and receivng group messages and correlating
them into the forum system, much like CF-TALK does 

I'm looking for something java based ideally...


Thanks!
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Re: Source Control Choices

2006-02-22 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
On 2/21/06, Michael Traher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 SVN is the next generation of CVS and has fixed some CVS limitations so this
 is worth a look.

And specifically for VSS folks, SVN now supports locking (VSS-style
one file/one developer) checkout as well as the more common in CVS/SVN
concurrent checkout.

 In terms of deployment CVS/SVN allow you to select a snapshot of code to
 release (in various ways) but how it moves from server to server is down to
 you. We have written a little CF app which provides a nice interface to some
 ANT scripts which are able to extract code from CVS and then copy it around.

Ant should definitely go on your solution list, regardless of the SCC
provider you choose (I've used Ant with SVN, CVS, and VSS on various
projects). It's designed to deal with release and deployment.

As an aside, there's a commercial SVN/SCC API proxy from pushtotest
that lets IDEs like Dreamweaver that only support VSS through the its
SCC API to access CVS, SVN, and others natively.
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RE: coldfusion and SQL2005

2006-02-22 Thread Munson, Jacob
 -Original Message-
 From: Russ
 Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:12 PM
 
 According to Microsoft you would need a CAL for each web user 
 (as they are
 technically running queries on your database).  Personally I 
 think this is
 ridiculous, but this is MS's official stance.  So unless you have an
 intranet, I'm not sure if you can get away with CAL licensing. 

Is this true?  So if I have a site that's running 1000 concurrent
threads at any given time, I've got to buy 1000 CALs?


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RE: A very specific message board/forum question...

2006-02-22 Thread Burns, John D
Ray-

Sorry, I didn't mean to bash yours. Personally, I think yours is great.
The issue that I have is that I have clients who have used PHPBB, YABB,
etc. for years and think that's how a forum SHOULD look and act.
Anything outside of that, they think it's wrong. Even other PHP boards
get scoffed at from the people I deal with.  The UI is the biggest
piece. I agree with you about not putting all of the frills and the
stupid rankings and stuff on the boards, but they seem to find that
stuff important, even if it is over complicated. 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer
 

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: A very specific message board/forum question...

I have to say I'm really surprised by this. I don't mean to say my
product is the best, there are other good forums apps out there. But do
folks truly think that the only good CF forum would be a phpBB clone?
Maybe it's just personal bias, but I've never liked forums built upon
it. I don't think they are bad per se - just a bit over complicated.

On 2/22/06, Burns, John D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There's definitely a market. Just no one has stepped up and met the 
 need.


 John Burns
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | 
 Web Developer


 -Original Message-
 From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:10 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: A very specific message board/forum question...

 I'm all for using the best product as well... but it would be *cool* 
 if it were CF. And honestly, I'm kind of surprised that none exist. 
 The fact that there is no equivalent to phpBB or vBulletin may 
 demonstrate the fact that there is no market for one.

 And yes, Ray's Galleon rocks!

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:49 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: A very specific message board/forum question...


 Che Vilnonis wrote:
 
  I wish an entrepreneurial CF company would create a CF board that 
  matched feature to feature and then some! I'd buy it.

 I started to with cfmbb (www.cfmbb.org)... but I went down a path I 
 wasn't prepared to go down (making it multilingual) which caused the 
 code to be REALLY hideous.

 It actually does support some of the phpbb features, but it's so very 
 far from being good.  I just fixed the BBML support in it.

 Honestly, if I decided i wanted to go back to working on a message 
 board, I'd probably scrap cfmbb and use Ray's Galleon Forums as the 
 base product.

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Help! Error in OnSessionEnd in Application.cfc

2006-02-22 Thread asherwood
This one is baffling me. I have an app with session management enbabled. The 
onSessionEnd function has NO CODE in it whatsoever. It is there so I do not get 
a method not found error when sessions end. I am NOT calling this explicitly 
- it gets called by CF when a session expires.

Every time the OnSessionEnd function fires, I get this error:

An exception occurred when invoking a event handler method from 
Application.cfc The method name is: onSessionEnd.

The StackTrace shows this: java.lang.NullPointerException at 
coldfusion.runtime.AppEventInvoker.onSessionEnd(AppEventInvoker.java:145)


Here is the EXACT code for the onSessionEnd function:

[cffunction name=onSessionEnd]
   [cfargument name=SessionScope required=True/]
   [cfargument name=ApplicationScope required=False/]

[/cffunction]

I even added a simple [cfset x=1] in the function body thinking that an empty 
function body would cause the error - no luck.

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RE: cfsavecontent and cfqueryparam

2006-02-22 Thread Brad Wood
Yes, but first of all, those are all reads.  Our example would be
writing files, which requires exclusive access that part of the drive.
Imagine your concentrated exclusive disk activity when multiple users
are hitting that page at once.  Not to mention cold fusion files are
compiled down to Java, and these would have to be recompiled every time.
And you probably can't use your trusted cache setting in CF Admin with
an approach like this too.  Also, your web server's reads and writes are
closer to your operating system and they are buffered.  CFFILE has to go
through an extra layer, and from what I understand it is not buffered
and you have to wait for the entire file operation.  Now, the good side
to that is the Java methods available now for file I/O are supposedly
much better.

~Brad

-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfsavecontent and cfqueryparam

FILE I/O happens with every page request.
Every page has to be loaded from the disk, every cfinclude loads a file
off
a disk, every use of a custom tag, has to loa dthe tag file.
Rather hard to avoid I/O

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RE: coldfusion and SQL2005

2006-02-22 Thread Russ
If it's for an intranet, then you can control your user base better, and
it's also more likely you can get away with a free version of sql server
(unless you have huge database 1-2GB +).  

You can tell sql server to only use 1 cpu if you want to.  In fact that's
what we're running right now, SQL 2k on 1 CPU on a dual CPU machine until we
decide that we need the second CPU and get a license for it. 

Don't forget there are also a lot of free options out there.  MySQL (which
might hit some hardships if Oracle decides they don't want them doing
business anymore), PostgreSQL, Oracle Lite, SQL Server Express 2005, MSDE
(SQL 2000 Desktop Edition, basically the same as SQL Express 2005, but
version 2000).  There are probably others, but these are the big boys. 

If we didn't have so much legacy code to maintain that's written for SQL 2k,
we'd probably be moving to one of the free alternatives. 

Russ


 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 7:48 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: coldfusion and SQL2005
 
 Yeah, but if you have a company with maybe a dozen users and they are
 running a Win2k server on a dual CPU box, it seems like a dozen CAL
 licenses
 would be a good bit cheaper than a per of CPU licenses.  I just am
 assuming
 since if on Win2k you could not section off the second CPU in the box and
 would have to get both CPU licenses.  I know when I was looking at Oracle
 Standard Edition that it would have been a great deal cheaper since per
 user
 was $150 vs I think something like $6k or 7k per CPU but no idea if their
 per user worked out the same way since never asked them.
 
 On 2/21/06, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  According to Microsoft you would need a CAL for each web user (as they
 are
  technically running queries on your database).  Personally I think this
 is
  ridiculous, but this is MS's official stance.  So unless you have an
  intranet, I'm not sure if you can get away with CAL licensing.
 
  Russ
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:22 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: coldfusion and SQL2005
  
   Seems like for small intranets(that out grow the needs of the Express
   edition) that the CAL per actual user would come out a lot cheaper
 than
   buying the per processor licensing.
  
   On 2/16/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
In any case, the Dell rep is wrong, wrong, wrong. This comes up
   frequently
on the list; you either need one CAL per actual user, or a
  per-processor
license which supports any number of users. For most web
 applications,
  a
per-processor license is cheaper. All of this is posted quite
 clearly
  on
microsoft.com.
   
   
  
  
  
 
 
 
 

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OT: Blatant Promotion of CFEclipse

2006-02-22 Thread Mark Drew
Hi all

I just wanted to let you all know that I shall be presenting the new  
features of CFEclipse at the UK CFUG on March the 2nd.

If you are in the general geographic area of London, England, and are  
interested in starting using CFEclipse or/and want to know what is  
coming up in the new release you should come along and check it out  
(more info at www.ukcfug.org)

I shall also be presenting the RDS plugin for eclipse by Adobe which  
should be interesting too!

Thanks for listening...

now back to our regular programming...


Regards

Mark Drew
http://www.markdrew.co.uk/


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RE: coldfusion and SQL2005

2006-02-22 Thread Russ
I'm not even sure if it's per thread.  You really should call and ask
Microsoft, but they will just tell you to get the per processor license.  I
think it might be per user, so each user that comes to the site would need
their own license.  Of course this is from the MS sales rep, and we know we
can't trust them, but has anyone read the licensing agreement and knows what
the exact wording is?

Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:24 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: coldfusion and SQL2005
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Russ
  Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:12 PM
 
  According to Microsoft you would need a CAL for each web user
  (as they are
  technically running queries on your database).  Personally I
  think this is
  ridiculous, but this is MS's official stance.  So unless you have an
  intranet, I'm not sure if you can get away with CAL licensing.
 
 Is this true?  So if I have a site that's running 1000 concurrent
 threads at any given time, I've got to buy 1000 CALs?
 
 
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RE: cfsavecontent and cfqueryparam

2006-02-22 Thread Russ
The problem with this solution is the high overhead of File Access.  If you
run 1 page, that's 1 file access, with possible a few more for
application.cfm, etc.  Probably a few more files if you're using a framework
like we are... so lets say 20 files on the average per request.  

Now lets say I'm looping and doing 1000 calls to a cfc in a single request
that produces the SQL query that I need.  If it's done through memory, it
takes around 1ms to make the call and return the sql.  If it's done through
a file read, I'm guessing it will be at least 20ms per call.  Multiply that
by 1000 and you can see that passing these things through a file is not
acceptable. 

Fortunatelly, I've already solved this by not having a function generate the
query (although it would've been nice).  I am just calling the same method
which does a query 1000 times (for 1000 records) and that seems to be the
fastest way.  I tried to combine it down to 1 query (basically a multi
statement query with 1000 statements).  First of all it would get very slow
with cfqueryparams, and even without them, it would still run slower then
calling the query separately 1000 times.  So I just optimized that single
query and so far so good. 

Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:47 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: cfsavecontent and cfqueryparam
 
 Yes, but first of all, those are all reads.  Our example would be
 writing files, which requires exclusive access that part of the drive.
 Imagine your concentrated exclusive disk activity when multiple users
 are hitting that page at once.  Not to mention cold fusion files are
 compiled down to Java, and these would have to be recompiled every time.
 And you probably can't use your trusted cache setting in CF Admin with
 an approach like this too.  Also, your web server's reads and writes are
 closer to your operating system and they are buffered.  CFFILE has to go
 through an extra layer, and from what I understand it is not buffered
 and you have to wait for the entire file operation.  Now, the good side
 to that is the Java methods available now for file I/O are supposedly
 much better.
 
 ~Brad
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:00 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: cfsavecontent and cfqueryparam
 
 FILE I/O happens with every page request.
 Every page has to be loaded from the disk, every cfinclude loads a file
 off
 a disk, every use of a custom tag, has to loa dthe tag file.
 Rather hard to avoid I/O
 
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Re: ActiveSpell and tinyMCE

2006-02-22 Thread Barney Boisvert
I haven't done it with ActiveSpell, but have with another
spellchecker.  The plugin architecture makes it a snap to wrap the
checker into a nice bundle for installation and maintenance.  One word
of advice: make sure you call the flush command (whose name changed
between 1.x and 2.x) to flush the content back to the form field
before you grab the content to check.

cheers,
barneyb

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 Has anyone implemented ActiveSpell and tinyMCE and have tips on doing so?

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CF Server performance

2006-02-22 Thread Ken
Hey guys. Does anyone know a good comparison between these 2 coldfusion
server monitoring tools? I am talking about seefusion Vs. fusion reactor.
My basic purpose is to optimize client requests and avoid frequent
coldfusion failures caused by faulty code, or heavy sql queries etc. Please
see if you can touch upon how much load these tools themselvs will cause on
coldfusion.
links:
http://www.seefusion.com
http://www.fusion-reactor.com

Any inputs would be great.

Thanks,
K


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Re: coldfusion and SQL2005

2006-02-22 Thread Aaron Rouse
Yeah, pretty much decided to go with MSSQL Express and if it gets out grown
to go to MSSQL 2005.  Had thought about doing the same route but with Oracle
then decided not too since the out growing phase would mean an handsome
amount more of money.

On 2/22/06, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If it's for an intranet, then you can control your user base better, and
 it's also more likely you can get away with a free version of sql server
 (unless you have huge database 1-2GB +).

 You can tell sql server to only use 1 cpu if you want to.  In fact that's
 what we're running right now, SQL 2k on 1 CPU on a dual CPU machine until
 we
 decide that we need the second CPU and get a license for it.

 Don't forget there are also a lot of free options out there.  MySQL (which
 might hit some hardships if Oracle decides they don't want them doing
 business anymore), PostgreSQL, Oracle Lite, SQL Server Express 2005, MSDE
 (SQL 2000 Desktop Edition, basically the same as SQL Express 2005, but
 version 2000).  There are probably others, but these are the big boys.

 If we didn't have so much legacy code to maintain that's written for SQL
 2k,
 we'd probably be moving to one of the free alternatives.

 Russ


  -Original Message-
  From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 7:48 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: coldfusion and SQL2005
 
  Yeah, but if you have a company with maybe a dozen users and they are
  running a Win2k server on a dual CPU box, it seems like a dozen CAL
  licenses
  would be a good bit cheaper than a per of CPU licenses.  I just am
  assuming
  since if on Win2k you could not section off the second CPU in the box
 and
  would have to get both CPU licenses.  I know when I was looking at
 Oracle
  Standard Edition that it would have been a great deal cheaper since per
  user
  was $150 vs I think something like $6k or 7k per CPU but no idea if
 their
  per user worked out the same way since never asked them.
 
  On 2/21/06, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   According to Microsoft you would need a CAL for each web user (as they
  are
   technically running queries on your database).  Personally I think
 this
  is
   ridiculous, but this is MS's official stance.  So unless you have an
   intranet, I'm not sure if you can get away with CAL licensing.
  
   Russ
  
-Original Message-
From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: coldfusion and SQL2005
   
Seems like for small intranets(that out grow the needs of the
 Express
edition) that the CAL per actual user would come out a lot cheaper
  than
buying the per processor licensing.
   
On 2/16/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 In any case, the Dell rep is wrong, wrong, wrong. This comes up
frequently
 on the list; you either need one CAL per actual user, or a
   per-processor
 license which supports any number of users. For most web
  applications,
   a
 per-processor license is cheaper. All of this is posted quite
  clearly
   on
 microsoft.com.


   
   
   
  
  
 
 

 

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Re: Announcing SeeStack: Free Stack Trace Analysis Utility

2006-02-22 Thread Patrick Quinn
Hey Steve. Thanks for the comment. Feel free to contact me offline for, uh, an 
offline version. So let's see, that's offline re: offline of online. There's a 
little recursion for a Wednesday morning. :)

pquinn (at) webapper.com.

Best,
Patrick

Patrick,

It's very cool of you to place something like this out there for
everyone.

Is there anyway to get a version that can run locally?  I have this
problem with passing stack traces over the internet, I'm afraid that I
could inadvertently pass info that reveals things about my setup that I
don't want the evil doers to see.

Steve


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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:07 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Announcing SeeStack: Free Stack Trace Analysis Utility


Greetings, all. We've been using a simple home-grown utility for parsing
JRun/ColdFusion stack traces for some time now, and since so many of our
consulting customers have asked us for such a tool, it occurred to us
that the broader community might find it useful as well. You can upload
a stack trace file (text mime-type only), or paste one into the tool.
SeeStack loops over the trace, presents the stacks/threads in a more
readable fashion, and reports some basic summary information about
thread states at the point the trace was taken. 
No charge to use it, although we may offer a Pro edition down the
road. Any and all feedback welcomed (use the SeeFusion Support address).
You can find the tool here: 

http://www.seefusion.com/seestack/seestack.cfm 

Best,
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Re: CF Server performance

2006-02-22 Thread Patrick Quinn
Hey Ken. I'm naturally a biased responder here, but there was some public 
discussion on Ben Forta's blog about comparisons:

http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2006/1/19/Check-Out-SeeFusion

Also, I'd be happy to talk offline about the products if you like, where my 
bias can be unleashed. ;)

To answer your specific question about performance, there's never been any 
detectable overhead to SeeFusion, either in our own testing, or in the 
experiences of hundreds of customers worldwide using it in production.

Hope that helps.

Best,
Patrick

Hey guys. Does anyone know a good comparison between these 2 coldfusion
server monitoring tools? I am talking about seefusion Vs. fusion reactor.
My basic purpose is to optimize client requests and avoid frequent
coldfusion failures caused by faulty code, or heavy sql queries etc. Please
see if you can touch upon how much load these tools themselvs will cause on
coldfusion.
links:
http://www.seefusion.com
http://www.fusion-reactor.com

Any inputs would be great.

Thanks,
K

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OT: Dreamweaver Oddity

2006-02-22 Thread BOB
Have a look at this screenshot of the Dreamweaver Database Panel...

http://209.200.124.210/dwdbpanel.gif


Any ideas why the full path to the datasource is being prepended to every
table name in the datasource...?

Dreamweaver v 8.0.1
MS Access DB
CF 7
Standard Access driver
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RE: coldfusion and SQL2005

2006-02-22 Thread Munson, Jacob
 Yeah, pretty much decided to go with MSSQL Express and if it 
 gets out grown
 to go to MSSQL 2005.  Had thought about doing the same route 
 but with Oracle
 then decided not too since the out growing phase would mean 
 an handsome
 amount more of money.

Is Oracle more expensive than MSSQL 2005?  Last I checked, their pricing
structure was pretty similar.  Someone please correct me if I'm wrong
though.


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Problem using XML DTD and XmlParse

2006-02-22 Thread Adrian Wagner
I'm trying to use XmlParse to parse an XML document which has a DTD defined
in the directory above the XML document.

ie. defined at the top of the XML document
!DOCTYPE Article SYSTEM ../hn-article.dtd

When I try to use XmlParse on the document i get the following error:

Relative URI ../hn-article.dtd; can not be resolved without a base URI.

Does anyone have any idea how i can set a base URI? Making changes to the
actual XML is not really an option.

Any help would be appreciated.


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Re: coldfusion and SQL2005

2006-02-22 Thread Aaron Rouse
Standard Edition One is $5k per CPU according to their site:

http://oraclestore.oracle.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?section=15105

My guess is when they made the cost comparisons they were comparing to
Workgroup Edition which is 3700-3900 per cpu according to this link.

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/default.mspx#EDAA



On 2/22/06, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Yeah, pretty much decided to go with MSSQL Express and if it
  gets out grown
  to go to MSSQL 2005.  Had thought about doing the same route
  but with Oracle
  then decided not too since the out growing phase would mean
  an handsome
  amount more of money.

 Is Oracle more expensive than MSSQL 2005?  Last I checked, their pricing
 structure was pretty similar.  Someone please correct me if I'm wrong
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cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Rick Root
Consider the following code:


cfoutput query=getRoster group=ENTITYID
cfset volunteers = getVolunteers(ENTITYID)
!-- volunteers is a query ---
cfoutput!-- output some stuff here --/cfoutput
cfloop query=volunteers
foo bar #ENTITYID#
/cfloop
/cfoutput

The reference to ENTITYID inside the cfloop breaks, says it doesn't 
exist.  Is that because CF only looks at the current query being looped 
over?

It works fine if I add something like cfset thisEntityID = ENTITYID 
just after the first cfoutput line and then reference *THAT* variable 
instead.

Just seems odd.

Rick

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Re: Is there a better way to do this?

2006-02-22 Thread Ken Ferguson
I'm with you Will. I've got one of those no-cfc-output-nazis here at my 
office and I just drive him crazy with a bunch of components that I use 
specifically for output of reports!

--Ferg

Will Tomlinson wrote:
 Will, is that a typo? You're outputting from a CFC! BLASPHEMY! :-)
 

 ohhh yeah, and I LOVE it!  heeheheee

 Rick already gave me a black eye for using cfcontent in a cfc. :)

 I asked about it and was given permission from an oo ninja master, whose name 
 shall go unmentioned. :)

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Re: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Charlie Griefer
what about if you scope it as #volunteers.EntityID#?

On 2/22/06, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Consider the following code:


 cfoutput query=getRoster group=ENTITYID
 cfset volunteers = getVolunteers(ENTITYID)
 !-- volunteers is a query ---
 cfoutput!-- output some stuff here --/cfoutput
 cfloop query=volunteers
 foo bar #ENTITYID#
 /cfloop
 /cfoutput

 The reference to ENTITYID inside the cfloop breaks, says it doesn't
 exist.  Is that because CF only looks at the current query being looped
 over?

 It works fine if I add something like cfset thisEntityID = ENTITYID
 just after the first cfoutput line and then reference *THAT* variable
 instead.

 Just seems odd.

 Rick

 

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RE: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Barthle, Robert \(Contractor\)
This problem has existed since CF5 at least as far as I know. That is the 
workaround for it.




thanks 
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-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 12:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query


Consider the following code:


cfoutput query=getRoster group=ENTITYID
cfset volunteers = getVolunteers(ENTITYID)
!-- volunteers is a query ---
cfoutput!-- output some stuff here --/cfoutput
cfloop query=volunteers
foo bar #ENTITYID#
/cfloop
/cfoutput

The reference to ENTITYID inside the cfloop breaks, says it doesn't 
exist.  Is that because CF only looks at the current query being looped 
over?

It works fine if I add something like cfset thisEntityID = ENTITYID 
just after the first cfoutput line and then reference *THAT* variable 
instead.

Just seems odd.

Rick



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Re: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Josh Nathanson
I've had that same issue with nested queries, I think CF can only reference 
the innermost query.  Others will probably have more info.  Also, your 
cfoutputs are nested, is that ok in CF7?  I think that would cause an error 
in earlier versions but seems to work in CF7.

-- Josh



- Original Message - 
From: Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:16 AM
Subject: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query


 Consider the following code:


 cfoutput query=getRoster group=ENTITYID
 cfset volunteers = getVolunteers(ENTITYID)
 !-- volunteers is a query ---
 cfoutput!-- output some stuff here --/cfoutput
 cfloop query=volunteers
 foo bar #ENTITYID#
 /cfloop
 /cfoutput

 The reference to ENTITYID inside the cfloop breaks, says it doesn't
 exist.  Is that because CF only looks at the current query being looped
 over?

 It works fine if I add something like cfset thisEntityID = ENTITYID
 just after the first cfoutput line and then reference *THAT* variable
 instead.

 Just seems odd.

 Rick

 

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Re: Is there a better way to do this?

2006-02-22 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Wednesday 22 February 2006 14:57, Andy Matthews wrote:
 Care to share them Thomas?

I'd love to, but 
a) they're too tightly tidy to our data base (not enough MVC abstraction, tsk)
b) they're not mine, they're the companies :-)

It's just wrappers around things like a certain popular DHTML calender 
component, really. Nothing you can't knock up yourself in a spare 15 minutes.

-- 

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Re: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Aaron Rouse
So the volunteers query does not contain the EntityID?  It is only present
in the getRoster query?  If so then just scope it:  getRoster.EntityID

On 2/22/06, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Consider the following code:


 cfoutput query=getRoster group=ENTITYID
cfset volunteers = getVolunteers(ENTITYID)
!-- volunteers is a query ---
cfoutput!-- output some stuff here --/cfoutput
cfloop query=volunteers
foo bar #ENTITYID#
/cfloop
 /cfoutput

 The reference to ENTITYID inside the cfloop breaks, says it doesn't
 exist.  Is that because CF only looks at the current query being looped
 over?

 It works fine if I add something like cfset thisEntityID = ENTITYID
 just after the first cfoutput line and then reference *THAT* variable
 instead.

 Just seems odd.

 Rick

 

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Re: A very specific message board/forum question...

2006-02-22 Thread Rick Root
Raymond Camden wrote:
 I have to say I'm really surprised by this. I don't mean to say my
 product is the best, there are other good forums apps out there. But
 do folks truly think that the only good CF forum would be a phpBB
 clone? Maybe it's just personal bias, but I've never liked forums
 built upon it. I don't think they are bad per se - just a bit over
 complicated.

phpBB is by far the most popular out there.  It doesn't have to be a 
clone but phpBB has certain features that make it popular amongst people 
who use message boards in a social environment.  We're not talking about 
us programmer geeks here as the target audience.. it's the teens and 
20-somethings sharing fan fiction, discussing their favorite bands, or 
talking about their favorite TV show.  It's also the sports fans talking 
about their favorite teams.

People use phpBB because of it's power... you don't HAVE to use private 
messaging, but nearly every phpBB board out there does.  It lets board 
members communicate with each other without having to share email addresses.

BBML lets people do things to make their posts look different... you'd 
be amazed at how many people I know on some message boards that change 
the color of the font on all their posts.  If they wanna be LOUD they 
change the font size to 25.

BBML is also intended to be implemented so people can't break the rest 
of the page.. ie, if you put a [b] tag without an end [/b] tag, none of 
the code will be bolded.  It forces validity on the BBML.  You can't 
even do this:  [b][i]hi there[/b][/i]

It lets people put image files in their signatures, which almost 
*EVERYONE* participating in the Carolina Hurricanes message boards does. 
  Heck, people there ask people with cool signatures where they got 
their image and they'll go have someone make THEM a cool signature too.

Avatars gives users another opportunity for people to express 
themselves, to make themselves unique.

In one case, a bet was made between an Ottawa Senators fan and a 
Carolina Hurricanes fan.  The bet was, if the Canes win, the ottawa 
senators fan has to change his avatar to something like the Canes logo 
and the words CANES ROCK, and something similar the other way around.

These things build community and allow for individual expression, and 
*THAT* is what makes those features popular.

I don't think anyone necessarily wants a phpBB clone, but we want all 
the features that phpBB has.

Rick

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Re: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Rick Root
Ian Skinner wrote:
 IIRC CF is going to automatically scope to the nearest query.  To override 
 this you will need to fully scope the variable.

when I tried scoping it using getRosters.ENTITYID, it *ALWAYS* returned 
the same entity id - the first one.  It only works if I assign it to a 
different variable.


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Re: A very specific message board/forum question...

2006-02-22 Thread Raymond Camden
John, trust me,I didn't think you were bashing my forums. I'm just
more surprised by the overwhelming support of phpBB. :)

On 2/22/06, Burns, John D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ray-

 Sorry, I didn't mean to bash yours. Personally, I think yours is great.
 The issue that I have is that I have clients who have used PHPBB, YABB,
 etc. for years and think that's how a forum SHOULD look and act.
 Anything outside of that, they think it's wrong. Even other PHP boards
 get scoffed at from the people I deal with.  The UI is the biggest
 piece. I agree with you about not putting all of the frills and the
 stupid rankings and stuff on the boards, but they seem to find that
 stuff important, even if it is over complicated.


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Re: A very specific message board/forum question...

2006-02-22 Thread Raymond Camden
Heh, Galleon has 'ranks' too. Now that I think makes sense. It's
almost like being in a RPG. ;)

On 2/22/06, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Burns, John D wrote:
 
  piece. I agree with you about not putting all of the frills and the
  stupid rankings and stuff on the boards, but they seem to find that
  stuff important, even if it is over complicated.

 On the Carolina Hurricanes message board, I just achieved the rank of
 Captain.  I started out as a Zamboni Driver =)


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RE: Hosting Help - Moving MSSQL from one host to another

2006-02-22 Thread Barthle, Robert \(Contractor\)
I use CrystalTech for my sites (2). I have never had a problem with them in the 
2+ years I have been with them.




thanks 
-r 
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-Original Message-
From: Steve Kahn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:44 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Hosting Help - Moving MSSQL from one host to another


CFM-Resources is closing and I need to move several sites to another host. Is 
there a preferred way to move the MSSQL databases to the new host without 
needing to rebuild them. And secondly, any good recommendations for affordable 
cfm/mssql hosting would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Steve



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Re: A very specific message board/forum question...

2006-02-22 Thread Raymond Camden
I'm slowly getting convinced. And with your work on BBML almost done,
it will be in Galleon soon.

On 2/22/06, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Raymond Camden wrote:
  I have to say I'm really surprised by this. I don't mean to say my
  product is the best, there are other good forums apps out there. But
  do folks truly think that the only good CF forum would be a phpBB
  clone? Maybe it's just personal bias, but I've never liked forums
  built upon it. I don't think they are bad per se - just a bit over
  complicated.

 phpBB is by far the most popular out there.  It doesn't have to be a
 clone but phpBB has certain features that make it popular amongst people
 who use message boards in a social environment.  We're not talking about
 us programmer geeks here as the target audience.. it's the teens and
 20-somethings sharing fan fiction, discussing their favorite bands, or
 talking about their favorite TV show.  It's also the sports fans talking
 about their favorite teams.


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Re: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Aaron Rouse
Strange, I code like that quite often and never have it return just the
first instance.  It would return a repeat though since it would be inside an
inner loop.  So if getRosters has a record count of 5 and then each
volunteers query has a record count of 4 you get displayed the same entity
ID 20 times?

On 2/22/06, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ian Skinner wrote:
  IIRC CF is going to automatically scope to the nearest query.  To
 override this you will need to fully scope the variable.

 when I tried scoping it using getRosters.ENTITYID, it *ALWAYS* returned
 the same entity id - the first one.  It only works if I assign it to a
 different variable.


 

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RE: A very specific message board/forum question...

2006-02-22 Thread Kevin Graeme
 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 I don't think anyone necessarily wants a phpBB clone, but we want all 
 the features that phpBB has.
 
 Rick

Or at least the option to have the features to turn off. ;-)

---
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Re: Hosting Help - Moving MSSQL from one host to another

2006-02-22 Thread Ben Doom
On occasion, I've restored from backups made on other boxes.  I don't 
think this recovers users, etc. though.

--Ben

Steve Kahn wrote:
 CFM-Resources is closing and I need to move several sites to another host. Is 
 there a preferred way to move the MSSQL databases to the new host without 
 needing to rebuild them. And secondly, any good recommendations for 
 affordable cfm/mssql hosting would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: Need help - OBDC Timeout

2006-02-22 Thread Nathan Strutz
Well obviously the error on installing the patch really sucks. Do you have
the ODBC services installed for sure? You should see it in your control
panel services app. Did you make sure to stop the server before applying the
patch? It might help to stop IIS as well. Do you need to use ODBC for your
database? If it's in the drop-down list when you create a new database,
those JDBC drivers are much better than ODBC.

What kind of database are you using? If it's Access, it sounds like you're
just growing too busy for it and you should really consider upgrading to
something like SQL Server or MySql. If it's something else, perhaps you can
download another JDBC driver for it and use that instead.

(the first step to fixing most ODBC problems is to switch to JDBC :)

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/


On 2/21/06, ekcien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Appreciate everyone help me to solve this problem.
 Recently our server (Window 2003, MX6.1) occur ODCB Timeouts and
 unresponsive requests. I have updated our server with lastest hotfix but
 still get this error.

 ---
 The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( ColdFusion MX ODBC Server )
 cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry
 information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer.
 You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description;
 see Help and Support for details. The following information is part of the
 event: ColdFusion MX ODBC [EMAIL PROTECTED],ErrorCode=3059,ErrorMessage=The
 specified data source is not defined.,ClientHost=127.0.0.1,Session=21564.
 

 Rgrd
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Re: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Rick Root
Aaron Rouse wrote:
 Strange, I code like that quite often and never have it return just the
 first instance.  It would return a repeat though since it would be inside an
 inner loop.  So if getRosters has a record count of 5 and then each
 volunteers query has a record count of 4 you get displayed the same entity
 ID 20 times?

Yes.

It's like if you did this:

cfquery name=getRoster ...
   select entityid, prmlname from entities
/cfquery
cfoutput#getRoster.entityid#/cfoutput

Since you'rre not inside a query-based cfoutput, it outputs the value 
from the first row.

I think that's what's happening when it doesn't find entityid in the 
innermost query..  it doesn't seem to realize that it's nested inside 
another query..

Here's some example code that shows this:

cfscript
qry1 = queryNew(ENTITYID,FULLNAME,ZIP,DEGREE);
queryAddRow(qry1,1);
querySetCell(qry1,ENTITYID,123450);
querySetCell(qry1,FULLNAME,John A. Doe);
querySetCell(qry1,ZIP,48169);
querySetCell(qry1,DEGREE,BS);
queryAddRow(qry1,1);
querySetCell(qry1,ENTITYID,123451);
querySetCell(qry1,FULLNAME,John B. Doe);
querySetCell(qry1,ZIP,27502);
querySetCell(qry1,DEGREE,BA);
queryAddRow(qry1,1);
querySetCell(qry1,ENTITYID,123452);
querySetCell(qry1,FULLNAME,John B. Doe);
querySetCell(qry1,ZIP,27502);
querySetCell(qry1,DEGREE,PhD.);
queryAddRow(qry1,1);
querySetCell(qry1,ENTITYID,123453);
querySetCell(qry1,FULLNAME,John C. Doe);
querySetCell(qry1,ZIP,90210);
querySetCell(qry1,DEGREE,BS);
queryAddRow(qry1,1);
querySetCell(qry1,ENTITYID,123454);
querySetCell(qry1,FULLNAME,John D. Doe);
querySetCell(qry1,ZIP,10101);
querySetCell(qry1,DEGREE,MS);
queryAddRow(qry1,1);
querySetCell(qry1,ENTITYID,123455);
querySetCell(qry1,FULLNAME,John E. Doe);
querySetCell(qry1,ZIP,48103);
querySetCell(qry1,DEGREE,JD);

qry2 = queryNew(VOLUNTID,VOLUNTNAME);
queryAddRow(qry2,1);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTID,janedoe1);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTNAME,Jane A. Doe);
queryAddRow(qry2,1);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTID,janedoe2);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTNAME,Jane B. Doe);
queryAddRow(qry2,1);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTID,janedoe3);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTNAME,Jane C. Doe);
queryAddRow(qry2,1);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTID,janedoe4);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTNAME,Jane D. Doe);
queryAddRow(qry2,1);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTID,janedoe5);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTNAME,Jane E. Doe);
/cfscript

cfoutput query=qry1 GROUP=ENTITYID
#ENTITYID# #FULLNAME# #ZIP# br
Degrees: cfoutput#DEGREE# /cfoutputbr
cfloop query=qry2
!--- qry1.entityid should output the CURRENT entity,
but it does not ---
Volunteer: #qry1.ENTITYID# #VOLUNTID# #VOLUNTNAME#br
/cfloop
br
/cfoutput

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Re: Problem using XML DTD and XmlParse

2006-02-22 Thread Adrian Wagner
Hi,

No the XML isn't broken, the DTD file is exactly where the XML file says it
is, in the directory above the file.  The coldfusion XmlParse just doesn't
seem to want to find it without having a Base URI.

Altering the XML is really a last resort...

so can a Base URI be set?

On 2/22/06, Thomas Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 22 February 2006 17:02, Adrian Wagner wrote:
  Does anyone have any idea how i can set a base URI? Making changes to
 the
  actual XML is not really an option.

 Shame, because the actual XML is broken, isn't it, if the DTD is invalid ?
 You could do a string search/replace prior to xmlParse() to correct it, if
 you
 were really sick.

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Re: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Rick Root
Wow, the sample code I just posted behaves as I describe in CFMX7 on 
Linux and Windows see:  http://www.opensourcecf.com/test.cfm

but it behaves as I think it *SHOULD* on Bluedragon 6.2 JX (on Linux)

http://www.bobguiney.com/test.cfm

Could this be a bug in CF?

I don't have access to a CFMX 6.1 machine anymore so I can't see how it 
behaves there.

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Re: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Aaron Rouse
Interesting, now wouldn't a simple enough fix be to just add entityID to the
output of volunteers since that query is built off the id anyway?

On 2/22/06, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Aaron Rouse wrote:
  Strange, I code like that quite often and never have it return just the
  first instance.  It would return a repeat though since it would be
 inside an
  inner loop.  So if getRosters has a record count of 5 and then each
  volunteers query has a record count of 4 you get displayed the same
 entity
  ID 20 times?

 Yes.

 It's like if you did this:

 cfquery name=getRoster ...
   select entityid, prmlname from entities
 /cfquery
 cfoutput#getRoster.entityid#/cfoutput

 Since you'rre not inside a query-based cfoutput, it outputs the value
 from the first row.

 I think that's what's happening when it doesn't find entityid in the
 innermost query..  it doesn't seem to realize that it's nested inside
 another query..

 Here's some example code that shows this:

 cfscript
qry1 = queryNew(ENTITYID,FULLNAME,ZIP,DEGREE);
queryAddRow(qry1,1);
querySetCell(qry1,ENTITYID,123450);
querySetCell(qry1,FULLNAME,John A. Doe);
querySetCell(qry1,ZIP,48169);
querySetCell(qry1,DEGREE,BS);
queryAddRow(qry1,1);
querySetCell(qry1,ENTITYID,123451);
querySetCell(qry1,FULLNAME,John B. Doe);
querySetCell(qry1,ZIP,27502);
querySetCell(qry1,DEGREE,BA);
queryAddRow(qry1,1);
querySetCell(qry1,ENTITYID,123452);
querySetCell(qry1,FULLNAME,John B. Doe);
querySetCell(qry1,ZIP,27502);
querySetCell(qry1,DEGREE,PhD.);
queryAddRow(qry1,1);
querySetCell(qry1,ENTITYID,123453);
querySetCell(qry1,FULLNAME,John C. Doe);
querySetCell(qry1,ZIP,90210);
querySetCell(qry1,DEGREE,BS);
queryAddRow(qry1,1);
querySetCell(qry1,ENTITYID,123454);
querySetCell(qry1,FULLNAME,John D. Doe);
querySetCell(qry1,ZIP,10101);
querySetCell(qry1,DEGREE,MS);
queryAddRow(qry1,1);
querySetCell(qry1,ENTITYID,123455);
querySetCell(qry1,FULLNAME,John E. Doe);
querySetCell(qry1,ZIP,48103);
querySetCell(qry1,DEGREE,JD);

qry2 = queryNew(VOLUNTID,VOLUNTNAME);
queryAddRow(qry2,1);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTID,janedoe1);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTNAME,Jane A. Doe);
queryAddRow(qry2,1);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTID,janedoe2);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTNAME,Jane B. Doe);
queryAddRow(qry2,1);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTID,janedoe3);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTNAME,Jane C. Doe);
queryAddRow(qry2,1);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTID,janedoe4);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTNAME,Jane D. Doe);
queryAddRow(qry2,1);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTID,janedoe5);
querySetCell(qry2,VOLUNTNAME,Jane E. Doe);
 /cfscript

 cfoutput query=qry1 GROUP=ENTITYID
 #ENTITYID# #FULLNAME# #ZIP# br
 Degrees: cfoutput#DEGREE# /cfoutputbr
 cfloop query=qry2
!--- qry1.entityid should output the CURRENT entity,
but it does not ---
Volunteer: #qry1.ENTITYID# #VOLUNTID# #VOLUNTNAME#br
 /cfloop
 br
 /cfoutput

 

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RE: Is there a better way to do this?

2006-02-22 Thread Andy Matthews
I see...

Just checking. That would be my next step in coding some of my Content
Management sections, setting up code that creates the form elements
dynamically. Loads of different possibilities though and I'm not sure if it
would be worth it.

!//--
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Is there a better way to do this?


On Wednesday 22 February 2006 14:57, Andy Matthews wrote:
 Care to share them Thomas?

I'd love to, but
a) they're too tightly tidy to our data base (not enough MVC abstraction,
tsk)
b) they're not mine, they're the companies :-)

It's just wrappers around things like a certain popular DHTML calender
component, really. Nothing you can't knock up yourself in a spare 15
minutes.

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Re: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Rick Root
Aaron Rouse wrote:
 Interesting, now wouldn't a simple enough fix be to just add entityID to the
 output of volunteers since that query is built off the id anyway?

That's called a workaround =)  But yeah

But what if, for some reason, you couldn't return the entityid in the query?

Clearly, the other workaround of reassigning it to a different variable 
name.

rick

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RE: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Andy Matthews
6.1 on Windows here Rick. Here's the output of the code you provided:

123450 John A. Doe 48169 
Degrees: BS 
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe1 Jane A. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe2 Jane B. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe3 Jane C. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe4 Jane D. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe5 Jane E. Doe

123451 John B. Doe 27502 
Degrees: BA 
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe1 Jane A. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe2 Jane B. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe3 Jane C. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe4 Jane D. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe5 Jane E. Doe

123452 John B. Doe 27502 
Degrees: PhD. 
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe1 Jane A. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe2 Jane B. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe3 Jane C. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe4 Jane D. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe5 Jane E. Doe

123453 John C. Doe 90210 
Degrees: BS 
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe1 Jane A. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe2 Jane B. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe3 Jane C. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe4 Jane D. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe5 Jane E. Doe

123454 John D. Doe 10101 
Degrees: MS 
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe1 Jane A. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe2 Jane B. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe3 Jane C. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe4 Jane D. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe5 Jane E. Doe

123455 John E. Doe 48103 
Degrees: JD 
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe1 Jane A. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe2 Jane B. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe3 Jane C. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe4 Jane D. Doe
Volunteer: 123450 janedoe5 Jane E. Doe


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Re: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Aaron Rouse
It behaves as you described on 6.1

On 2/22/06, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wow, the sample code I just posted behaves as I describe in CFMX7 on
 Linux and Windows see:  http://www.opensourcecf.com/test.cfm

 but it behaves as I think it *SHOULD* on Bluedragon 6.2 JX (on Linux)

 http://www.bobguiney.com/test.cfm

 Could this be a bug in CF?

 I don't have access to a CFMX 6.1 machine anymore so I can't see how it
 behaves there.

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Re: Hosting Help - Moving MSSQL from one host to another

2006-02-22 Thread Ray Champagne
I'd agree with CT as a great host.

Have you looked into DTS for the move?  That's what I've used and it 
works pretty well.

Barthle, Robert (Contractor) wrote:
 I use CrystalTech for my sites (2). I have never had a problem with them in 
 the 2+ years I have been with them.
 
 
 
 
 thanks 
 -r 
 _ 
 Rob Barthle 
 Contractor - Sr. Software Developer 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 202-245-6484 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Kahn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:44 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Hosting Help - Moving MSSQL from one host to another
 
 
 CFM-Resources is closing and I need to move several sites to another host. Is 
 there a preferred way to move the MSSQL databases to the new host without 
 needing to rebuild them. And secondly, any good recommendations for 
 affordable cfm/mssql hosting would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks
 
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RE: Hosting Help - Moving MSSQL from one host to another

2006-02-22 Thread Russ
You'd need to bring over the master database to recover users.  

I've moved SQL databases a lot of times, and what I usually do is backup the
db, restore it on the new place, and create a new user for cf to use it and
give it permissions to that db.  

 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:17 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Hosting Help - Moving MSSQL from one host to another
 
 On occasion, I've restored from backups made on other boxes.  I don't
 think this recovers users, etc. though.
 
 --Ben
 
 Steve Kahn wrote:
  CFM-Resources is closing and I need to move several sites to another
 host. Is there a preferred way to move the MSSQL databases to the new host
 without needing to rebuild them. And secondly, any good recommendations
 for affordable cfm/mssql hosting would be greatly appreciated.
 
  Thanks
 
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SOT: OCR and CF

2006-02-22 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Hey All,

I'm creating some Excel forms that will have a dynamically generated number in 
a cell (based on user input...a barcode would be nice if anyone has some info). 
 The Excel file will  be submitted via e-mail and CF will check the mail, grba 
the attachment, and parse out the data in the Excel file (storing it in the DB 
along with this unique number or barcode value).

The excel form will also be printed and faxed in via a web based fax service.  
CF will grab the TIFF from the e-mail sent from the fax service and then CF 
will need to read the unique number/barcode via OCR or barcode reader and match 
the fax to the record entered from the emialing in of the spreadsheet.

So.

1) Does anyone know of a decent OCR utility that CF could fire up?

2) If you know how to put barcodes in Excel, please elaborate ;-)

3) If barcodes in Excel are possible, can anyone reccommend a barcode reader 
utility that CF can kick off?

TIA for any insight

BTW I have gone down the Adobe LiveCycle route looking at making PDF forms 
instead of using Excelwholly *%*% do they want a lot of money to be able 
to create PDF forms that can save their data locally with no web 
connectionanywhere from $40K to 25 times that I've been quoted...just to 
allow Acrobat Reader to save PDF form data to the client!!!  This is because 
you require something called Reader Extensions that unlock all kinds of 
features in the free reader.  What they need is to sell the save data 
extension seperately for a lot less money (because those prices include all the 
extensions)...but I digress ;-)

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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Re: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Matt Robertson
Rick, I ran into something like this myself not so long ago ans solved 
it by adding the currentrow to the variable call, as in

cfloop query=volunteers
foo bar #getRoster.ENTITYID[currentRow]#
/cfloop




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Re: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Claude Schneegans
 but it behaves as I think it *SHOULD* on Bluedragon 6.2 JX (on Linux)

IMHO this is clearly a bug in CF. I've noticed the same behaviour and 
I'm also assigning columns to temporary variables.
It seems that CF retains only the deeper level query current row. Any 
reference to an outter query is made to row #1.

Full scoping is also a security when having several loops in queries.

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RE: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
okay good, so I wasn't going crazy.  CF can't reference variables in the
current row of a a parent query loop from within a nested query loop
(but Bluedragon can)

Inside of another query, CF will treat the variable as simple string--much
like it would outside a cfloop query loop. There's 2 ways around this:

1) set a local variable before getting into the loop
2) use the query.currentRow to specify the position in the query.

This is the way CF has behaved for as long as I can remember. I usually use
#2 to do what I want:

cfloop query=myQuery
cfloop query=myInnerQuery
cfoutput#myQuery.column[myQuery.currentRow]#/cfoutput
/cfloop
/cfloop

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Re: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Claude Schneegans
 by adding the currentrow to the variable call

This is it: The currentRow variable contains the right value, but the 
row by default in an expression
is not set to currenRow, but to one.

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Re: Help! Error in OnSessionEnd in Application.cfc

2006-02-22 Thread Cutter (CF-Talk)
I could be wrong, but I thought all argument attribute values had to be 
quoted?...

Cutter

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This one is baffling me. I have an app with session management enbabled. The 
onSessionEnd function has NO CODE in it whatsoever. It is there so I do not 
get a method not found error when sessions end. I am NOT calling this 
explicitly - it gets called by CF when a session expires.

Every time the OnSessionEnd function fires, I get this error:

An exception occurred when invoking a event handler method from 
Application.cfc The method name is: onSessionEnd.

The StackTrace shows this: java.lang.NullPointerException at 
coldfusion.runtime.AppEventInvoker.onSessionEnd(AppEventInvoker.java:145)


Here is the EXACT code for the onSessionEnd function:

[cffunction name=onSessionEnd]
   [cfargument name=SessionScope required=True/]
   [cfargument name=ApplicationScope required=False/]
   
[/cffunction]

I even added a simple [cfset x=1] in the function body thinking that an empty 
function body would cause the error - no luck.

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Re: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Rick Root
Aaron Rouse wrote:
 True, although ultimately my workaround would be to just pull out all the
 data in one query and group over the entity ID then group over the volunteer
 information.

Can't do that in my case, because I'm already grouping over OTHER data - 
the degrees.  That's why I had to go the route that I did.

Rick

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RE: cfloop over a query inside cfoutput over a query

2006-02-22 Thread Ian Skinner
Ian Skinner wrote:
 IIRC CF is going to automatically scope to the nearest query.  To 
 override this you will need to fully scope the variable.

when I tried scoping it using getRosters.ENTITYID, it *ALWAYS* returned 
the same entity id - the first one.  It only works if I assign it to a 
different variable.

The solution was given in an earlier post.  To use the complete, fully 
qualified query scope, which is queryName.columname[rowNumber].

So this fob bar #getRoster.EntityID[currentRow]# should get what you want.

It is important to note that using cfoutput query=... and cfloop query=... 
are just short cuts to the full query scope.  This allows one to usually just 
access the data by column name.  When one goes beyond the basics though, 
falling back to the full scoping will usually resolve the issue.




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Re: A very specific message board/forum question...

2006-02-22 Thread Aaron Rouse
One thing to consider will be what the users of the system are used to
having.  Ultimately it would be nice to just have an option between using
something like BBML or tinyMce, doesn't vBulletin offer some sort of option
like this?


On 2/22/06, Stan Winchester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why use BBML when you can use something like tinyMce? If you are worried
 about security, it is easy to block certain tags (which we should all do
 anyway). I use tinyMce in the Aftershock Forum with a basic set of tools
 which I believe does everything BBML does and more. Also, from a user point
 of view it is much easier to use tinyMce than BBML.

 I just looked at this page showing the BBML core tags:
 http://david.smigit.com/bbcode/. Is this a complete list?

 

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RE: Get Entire Directory Tree via FTP

2006-02-22 Thread Kevin Aebig
Out of curiousity:

Couldn't quite a few things go wrong by having a recursive function wait for
downloading file... I understand that CF is multi-threaded, but to
accommodate how fast a recursive function fires will take a bit of
horsepower. Somebody step in if I'm an idiot...

!k

PS. Don't all speak at once.

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Chastain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: February 22, 2006 1:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Get Entire Directory Tree via FTP

I am trying to retrieve an entire directory structure via ftp ... nested
folders, files, etc.  My understanding of CFFTP is that it cannot do a
recursive get (at least in MX6.1).

So, what I am attempting to do is build a recursive function that will crawl
the directory tree getting the individual files and creating the folders as
needed.  The problem I am running into is how to I pass the FTP connection
to the function?  I tried setting the argument type to any, but I am still
getting the following error message within the function:

 Invalid connection specified.
The connection attribute you specified,
[EMAIL PROTECTED], is invalid or does not exist

Anybody know what I am doing wrong or a better way to approach this?

Thanks
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Re: Get Entire Directory Tree via FTP

2006-02-22 Thread Jeff Chastain
Well, in the sometimes you have to do what you have to do category ... it can't 
be much worse than recursively deleting an entire folder structure which CF 
does not allow us to do either.  That was why I asked if there were any better 
ideas for doing this when all I have is an FTP connection to this folder 
structure and I need to download the entire thing and parse it.

Thanks
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Re: Help! Error in OnSessionEnd in Application.cfc

2006-02-22 Thread asherwood
I am totally embarassed. I've been working with CF for nearly 9 years! I should 
have spotted this! The NullPointer was for the True and False which were being 
taken as variables that had not been set.

In my pathetic defence, I copied the function from the LiveDocs website, 
though..verbatim!

Thanks Cutter.


I could be wrong, but I thought all argument attribute values had to be 
quoted?...

Cutter

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Re: Hosting Help - Moving MSSQL from one host to another

2006-02-22 Thread Will Tomlinson
Having multiple problems with CT right now. Missing custom tag paths, missing 
db's, missing verity collections. I've been with CT for a few years, and it 
seems like since they were acquired by a larger company, things've gotten a bit 
screwy. Support has gotten worse. It's cheap though! 

Check out HostMySite. 

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Re: A very specific message board/forum question...

2006-02-22 Thread Andrew Grosset
Rick, an excellent summary of what is wanted. I also found Raymond Camden's 
Galleon BB to be a great introduction to the use of cfc's if one hasn't used 
them before.

Andrew.

Raymond Camden wrote:
 I have to say I'm really surprised by this. I don't mean to say my
 product is the best, there are other good forums apps out there. But
 do folks truly think that the only good CF forum would be a phpBB
 clone? Maybe it's just personal bias, but I've never liked forums
 built upon it. I don't think they are bad per se - just a bit over
 complicated.

phpBB is by far the most popular out there.  It doesn't have to be a 
clone but phpBB has certain features that make it popular amongst people 
who use message boards in a social environment.  We're not talking about 
us programmer geeks here as the target audience.. it's the teens and 
20-somethings sharing fan fiction, discussing their favorite bands, or 
talking about their favorite TV show.  It's also the sports fans talking 
about their favorite teams.

Rick

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SOT: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution

2006-02-22 Thread Earl, George
We just got new LCD monitors that have a native resolution of 1280 x
1024 but we develop for 800 x 600 (inTRAnet standard). Like lots of
LCDs, these look like crap at anything other than their native
resolution. If you are in the same boat, how do you develop for a
non-native resolution like 800 x 600 and make sure that everything fits
and looks right? Do you pop up an 800 x 600 browser window to view the
pages? Use a second monitor set to 800 x 600? Use a utility? Thanks!

George

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Re: SOT: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution

2006-02-22 Thread Robert Munn
Get the Firefox Web Developer toolbar, it has a button to resize your browser 
right there.

We just got new LCD monitors that have a native resolution of 1280 x
1024 but we develop for 800 x 600 (inTRAnet standard). Like lots of
LCDs, these look like crap at anything other than their native
resolution. If you are in the same boat, how do you develop for a
non-native resolution like 800 x 600 and make sure that everything fits
and looks right? Do you pop up an 800 x 600 browser window to view the
pages? Use a second monitor set to 800 x 600? Use a utility? Thanks!

George

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RE: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution

2006-02-22 Thread Andy Matthews
Create a favorite (bookmark) in the browser of your choice with this as the
url

javascript:resizeTo(800,600);

Name it 800x600 and it will force the window to that size.

!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-

-Original Message-
From: Earl, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution


We just got new LCD monitors that have a native resolution of 1280 x
1024 but we develop for 800 x 600 (inTRAnet standard). Like lots of
LCDs, these look like crap at anything other than their native
resolution. If you are in the same boat, how do you develop for a
non-native resolution like 800 x 600 and make sure that everything fits
and looks right? Do you pop up an 800 x 600 browser window to view the
pages? Use a second monitor set to 800 x 600? Use a utility? Thanks!

George



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Re: SOT: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution

2006-02-22 Thread Joe Ferraro
When I needed to develop for 800 x 600 I would create a background image
that fit the size of my desktop. In that background I would create box that
was 800 x 600. Then I could always pop up a browser window and resize it to
fit that box. That way I knew fit the right size.

On 2/22/06, Earl, George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We just got new LCD monitors that have a native resolution of 1280 x
 1024 but we develop for 800 x 600 (inTRAnet standard). Like lots of
 LCDs, these look like crap at anything other than their native
 resolution. If you are in the same boat, how do you develop for a
 non-native resolution like 800 x 600 and make sure that everything fits
 and looks right? Do you pop up an 800 x 600 browser window to view the
 pages? Use a second monitor set to 800 x 600? Use a utility? Thanks!

 George

 

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RE: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution

2006-02-22 Thread Barthle, Robert \(Contractor\)
I have a little tool called Screen Measure that pops up a real slick ruler on 
the screen. I can resize my windows as needed, and it allows for magnification 
of the area on the screen right next to the ruler, so you can measure to the 
pixel with ease. It converts from horizontal to vertical measuring in one 
click. I use it all the time.

You can get it off the website of a former co-worker of mine for free at 
http://www.alexsantantonio.com/work/devtools.asp



thanks 
-r 
_ 
Rob Barthle 
Contractor - Sr. Software Developer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
202-245-6484 



-Original Message-
From: Earl, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 4:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution


We just got new LCD monitors that have a native resolution of 1280 x
1024 but we develop for 800 x 600 (inTRAnet standard). Like lots of
LCDs, these look like crap at anything other than their native
resolution. If you are in the same boat, how do you develop for a
non-native resolution like 800 x 600 and make sure that everything fits
and looks right? Do you pop up an 800 x 600 browser window to view the
pages? Use a second monitor set to 800 x 600? Use a utility? Thanks!

George



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RE: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution

2006-02-22 Thread Munson, Jacob
Two points.

1.  There's a Firefox extension called 'Web Developer Extension' that
will resize your browser to standard monitor resolutions.  One problem
with this is it doesn't account for dpi nor font size variances (that's
why most people use liquid layouts)
http://chrispederick.com/work/webdeveloper/

2.  Can you convince your company to move the standard up from 800x600?
All new PCs come preconfigured at 1024x768 these days, and major sites
like C|Net are now standardizing on that.  This doesn't help if most of
your company's users are still running 800x600 (unless you can move them
all up too :))

 -Original Message-
 From: Earl, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 2:13 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: SOT: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution
 
 We just got new LCD monitors that have a native resolution of 1280 x
 1024 but we develop for 800 x 600 (inTRAnet standard). Like lots of
 LCDs, these look like crap at anything other than their native
 resolution. If you are in the same boat, how do you develop for a
 non-native resolution like 800 x 600 and make sure that 
 everything fits
 and looks right? Do you pop up an 800 x 600 browser window to view the
 pages? Use a second monitor set to 800 x 600? Use a utility? Thanks!
 
 George
 
 

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Re: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution

2006-02-22 Thread Bryan Stevenson
 Create a favorite (bookmark) in the browser of your choice with this as the
 url
 
 javascript:resizeTo(800,600);

I have learned my new thing for the day...nice tip Andy!

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: www.electricedgesystems.com

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RE: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution

2006-02-22 Thread Barthle, Robert \(Contractor\)
I second this. It's in my bookmarks now! Thanks.




thanks 
-r 
_ 
Rob Barthle 
Contractor - Sr. Software Developer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
202-245-6484 



-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 4:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution


 Create a favorite (bookmark) in the browser of your choice with this as the
 url
 
 javascript:resizeTo(800,600);

I have learned my new thing for the day...nice tip Andy!

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Annoying issue with CFSELECT.

2006-02-22 Thread Smith, Ed
I'm finally getting around to playing with Flash Forms in CF7, but I've run
across a maddening issue.

I am populating a cfselect from a query.  The query has an id column of
numbers, and a label column of text.

My cfselect is populating properly, but the values are getting changed
through the addition of a .0 on the end.

For instance, if my data looks like:

Bob 12345
Sue 64533

The CFSelect is producing values of 12345.0 and 64533.0.  The SELECTED
value is being given as 12345, so therefore, the proper one is not getting
selected.

If there any way to tell CFSELECT not to reformat my values?

What's odd, is that I have other CFSELECTS that also get numbers, and they
are working fine, so it's an odd problem.

I think the problem might have to do with where the queries come from.

For the ones that are not working, I'm creating the queries using
QueryNew(), as the data is coming from a Java object as an array of objects,
and I want a query.

For example a query is generated by this code:

variables.sections =
queryNew(sectionId,name,tag,description,topicname,statusid,topicid,topicpat
h,sitesectionid,storydisplaybyline,storydisplaydateline);
for (i=1; i lte ArrayLen(sectionArray); i=i+1) {
section = sectionArray[i];
queryAddRow(variables.sections);
//sec = structNew();

querySetCell(variables.sections,sectionId,val(section.getSectionId()));
querySetCell(variables.sections,name,
toString(section.getName()));
querySetCell(variables.sections,tag,
toString(section.getTag()));
querySetCell(variables.sections,description,
toString(section.getDescription()));
querySetCell(variables.sections,topicName,
toString(section.getTopicName()));
querySetCell(variables.sections,statusId,
val(section.getStatusId()));
querySetCell(variables.sections,topicId,
val(section.getTopicId()));
querySetCell(variables.sections,topicPath,
toString(section.getTopicPath()));
querySetCell(variables.sections,siteSectionId,
val(section.getSiteSectionId()));
querySetCell(variables.sections,storyDisplayByLine,
val(section.getStoryDisplayByLine()));
querySetCell(variables.sections,storyDisplayDateLine,
val(section.getStoryDisplayDateLine()));
} 

I'm assuming the problem comes from me using the Val() function when I
populate the cell.

But, still, CFSELECT should not be changing number formats.  Or, at least, I
should be able to specify the number format.

So, any ideas about a workaround?

Thanks! 

Edward Smith

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Re: A very specific message board/forum question...

2006-02-22 Thread Rick Root
Stan Winchester wrote:
 Why use BBML when you can use something like tinyMce? 

HTML editors cause a couple of problems:

#1 - you can break the HTML.
#2 - you can PASTE IN any html you want into tinyMCE.. you'd have to 
parse out the tags you don't want.. and it could still be broken html.
#3 - wysiwyg html editors are slow loading, evne at their most basic.
#4 - wysiwyg html editors very browser dependent.


Take a look at what I just did to this particular thread:

http://www.aftershockweb.com/forum/messages.cfm?ThreadId=52

allowing the general public to use *ANY* html editor is a BAD BAD idea.

Feel free to delete that topic.

Rick

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RE: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution

2006-02-22 Thread Andy Matthews
Glad I could help guys. I can't take credit for that one. It came from
LockerGnome WAY back in the day.

!//--
andy matthews
web developer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-

-Original Message-
From: Barthle, Robert (Contractor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution


I second this. It's in my bookmarks now! Thanks.




thanks
-r
_
Rob Barthle
Contractor - Sr. Software Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
202-245-6484



-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 4:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution


 Create a favorite (bookmark) in the browser of your choice with this as
the
 url

 javascript:resizeTo(800,600);

I have learned my new thing for the day...nice tip Andy!

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: www.electricedgesystems.com





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Re: A very specific message board/forum question...

2006-02-22 Thread Roger B.
 People use phpBB because of it's power... you don't HAVE to use private
 messaging, but nearly every phpBB board out there does.  It lets board
 members communicate with each other without having to share email addresses.

Rick: The forum bits of JournURL do all of that, and I've waffled
back-and-forth about releasing it as a stand-alone app over the years.
But that would leave me doing a number of things:

(1) Radically cleaning up the admin UI.

(2) Figuring out an installation procedure for mere mortals.

(3) Deciding whether or not to strip out all of the non-forum stuff.

(4) Removing dependencies on various bits of code that I don't have
the right to redistribute, or can't redistribute without running into
GPL issues. (jTidy, for example.)

Finding the time and will for all of that can be kinda difficult. :D

--
Roger Benningfield




 BBML lets people do things to make their posts look different... you'd
 be amazed at how many people I know on some message boards that change
 the color of the font on all their posts.  If they wanna be LOUD they
 change the font size to 25.

 BBML is also intended to be implemented so people can't break the rest
 of the page.. ie, if you put a [b] tag without an end [/b] tag, none of
 the code will be bolded.  It forces validity on the BBML.  You can't
 even do this:  [b][i]hi there[/b][/i]

 It lets people put image files in their signatures, which almost
 *EVERYONE* participating in the Carolina Hurricanes message boards does.
   Heck, people there ask people with cool signatures where they got
 their image and they'll go have someone make THEM a cool signature too.

 Avatars gives users another opportunity for people to express
 themselves, to make themselves unique.

 In one case, a bet was made between an Ottawa Senators fan and a
 Carolina Hurricanes fan.  The bet was, if the Canes win, the ottawa
 senators fan has to change his avatar to something like the Canes logo
 and the words CANES ROCK, and something similar the other way around.

 These things build community and allow for individual expression, and
 *THAT* is what makes those features popular.

 I don't think anyone necessarily wants a phpBB clone, but we want all
 the features that phpBB has.

 Rick

 

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Re: A very specific message board/forum question...

2006-02-22 Thread Roger B.
 HTML editors cause a couple of problems:

 #1 - you can break the HTML.
 #2 - you can PASTE IN any html you want into tinyMCE.. you'd have to
 parse out the tags you don't want.. and it could still be broken html.
 #3 - wysiwyg html editors are slow loading, evne at their most basic.
 #4 - wysiwyg html editors very browser dependent.

I agree with #3 and #4, but the first two are implementation problems.
Tidy can ensure that HTML is well-formed, and well-formed HTML can
(and should) be swept for naughty bits relatively easily.

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RE: Get Entire Directory Tree via FTP

2006-02-22 Thread Kevin Aebig
Actually it could be worse. Because you're dealing with network latency and
the chance the connection could be dropped, it's not as predictable as
dealing with the local file system.

My suggestion would be to use queued implementation. Log into the FTP and
get the full contents of the directory. For each Directory, push the path
into an array of directories to visit and all the files into a download
array. Than when you've finished gathering all the files for download, you
can begin recreating the folder structure and downloading the files into
their proper directories.

I used the same implementation for a webspider to generate sitemaps and it
worked *way* faster than the recursive method I had initially came up with.

Cheers,

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Chastain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: February 22, 2006 1:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Get Entire Directory Tree via FTP

Well, in the sometimes you have to do what you have to do category ... it
can't be much worse than recursively deleting an entire folder structure
which CF does not allow us to do either.  That was why I asked if there were
any better ideas for doing this when all I have is an FTP connection to this
folder structure and I need to download the entire thing and parse it.

Thanks
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Re: Get Entire Directory Tree via FTP

2006-02-22 Thread Jeff Chastain
That is an interesting approach.  I could still see the reading of the 
directory structure being recursive, although I could use a stack which would 
not require recursion.  Just reading the folders ought to be quicker than 
downloading everything, although I never expected this process to be fast.

I will give it a try and see what I run into.

Thanks
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RE: Get Entire Directory Tree via FTP

2006-02-22 Thread Kevin Aebig
Out of curiousity, is there any chance you can have a process on the other
server zip the whole thing? That would save you a ton of time and maintain
the folder structure... 

!k

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Chastain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: February 22, 2006 3:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Get Entire Directory Tree via FTP

That is an interesting approach.  I could still see the reading of the
directory structure being recursive, although I could use a stack which
would not require recursion.  Just reading the folders ought to be quicker
than downloading everything, although I never expected this process to be
fast.

I will give it a try and see what I run into.

Thanks
-- Jeff



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Re: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution

2006-02-22 Thread Casey Dougall
So how many bookmarks should I be setting up? top 13 or more? yeah
that sounds like fun!
Firefox does have an extension, called measure it which covers
anything you need to know about size of page objects...

Monitor Resolution   Internet Avg %
1.  1024 x 768  49.62%
2.  800 x 600   15.65%
3.  1280 x 1024 11.00%
4.  1152 x 864  3.04%
5.  1400 x 1050 0.96%
6.  1280 x 800  3.04%
7.  Not Specified   10.00%
8.  1600 x 1200 0.97%
9.  1400 x 864  1.35%
10. 1280 x 864  0.79%
11. 640 x 480   0.22%
12. 1600 x 1050 1.10%
13. 1280 x 768  1.00%
14. 2560 x 1024 0.06%
15. 2048 x 768  0.04%
16. 1152 x 768  0.17%
17. 1920 x 1200 0.44%
18. 1600 x 1024 0.13%
19. 3200 x 1024 0.01%
20. 1024 x 800  0.05%

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RE: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution

2006-02-22 Thread Munson, Jacob
Thanks for that list.  Where did it come from? 

 -Original Message-
 From: Casey Dougall
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:44 PM
 
 Monitor Resolution   Internet Avg %
 1.1024 x 768  49.62%
 2.800 x 600   15.65%
 3.1280 x 1024 11.00%
 4.1152 x 864  3.04%
 5.1400 x 1050 0.96%
 6.1280 x 800  3.04%
 7.Not Specified   10.00%
 8.1600 x 1200 0.97%
 9.1400 x 864  1.35%
 10.   1280 x 864  0.79%
 11.   640 x 480   0.22%
 12.   1600 x 1050 1.10%
 13.   1280 x 768  1.00%
 14.   2560 x 1024 0.06%
 15.   2048 x 768  0.04%
 16.   1152 x 768  0.17%
 17.   1920 x 1200 0.44%
 18.   1600 x 1024 0.13%
 19.   3200 x 1024 0.01%
 20.   1024 x 800  0.05%


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Re: Get Entire Directory Tree via FTP

2006-02-22 Thread Jeff Chastain
It would be nice, but no.  I am talking from a Windows server to a NIX one and 
I only have read FTP access.

Thanks
-- Jeff

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REPOST Re: OCR and CF

2006-02-22 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Come on you fellow propeller headssomebody must have some insight on this 
one ;-)

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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fax: 250.480.1264
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- Original Message - 
From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:47 AM
Subject: SOT: OCR and CF


 Hey All,

 I'm creating some Excel forms that will have a dynamically generated number 
 in 
 a cell (based on user input...a barcode would be nice if anyone has some 
 info).  The Excel file will  be submitted via e-mail and CF will check the 
 mail, grba the attachment, and parse out the data in the Excel file (storing 
 it in the DB along with this unique number or barcode value).

 The excel form will also be printed and faxed in via a web based fax service. 
 CF will grab the TIFF from the e-mail sent from the fax service and then CF 
 will need to read the unique number/barcode via OCR or barcode reader and 
 match the fax to the record entered from the emialing in of the spreadsheet.

 So.

 1) Does anyone know of a decent OCR utility that CF could fire up?

 2) If you know how to put barcodes in Excel, please elaborate ;-)

 3) If barcodes in Excel are possible, can anyone reccommend a barcode reader 
 utility that CF can kick off?

 TIA for any insight

 BTW I have gone down the Adobe LiveCycle route looking at making PDF forms 
 instead of using Excelwholly *%*% do they want a lot of money to be 
 able 
 to create PDF forms that can save their data locally with no web 
 connectionanywhere from $40K to 25 times that I've been quoted...just to 
 allow Acrobat Reader to save PDF form data to the client!!!  This is because 
 you require something called Reader Extensions that unlock all kinds of 
 features in the free reader.  What they need is to sell the save data 
 extension seperately for a lot less money (because those prices include all 
 the extensions)...but I digress ;-)

 Cheers

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com

 

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RE: REPOST Re: OCR and CF

2006-02-22 Thread Munson, Jacob
As far as barcodes, you could search the CF-Talk archives.  I know
there've been a number of threads on the topic. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan Stevenson 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:56 PM
 
 Come on you fellow propeller headssomebody must have some 
 insight on this 
 one ;-)
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bryan Stevenson
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 
  Hey All,
 
  I'm creating some Excel forms that will have a dynamically 
 generated number in 
  a cell (based on user input...a barcode would be nice if 
 anyone has some 
  info).  The Excel file will  be submitted via e-mail and CF 
 will check the 
  mail, grba the attachment, and parse out the data in the 
 Excel file (storing 
  it in the DB along with this unique number or barcode value).
 
  The excel form will also be printed and faxed in via a web 
 based fax service. 
  CF will grab the TIFF from the e-mail sent from the fax 
 service and then CF 
  will need to read the unique number/barcode via OCR or 
 barcode reader and 
  match the fax to the record entered from the emialing in of 
 the spreadsheet.
 
  So.
 
  1) Does anyone know of a decent OCR utility that CF could fire up?
 
  2) If you know how to put barcodes in Excel, please elaborate ;-)
 
  3) If barcodes in Excel are possible, can anyone reccommend 
 a barcode reader 
  utility that CF can kick off?
 
  TIA for any insight
 
  BTW I have gone down the Adobe LiveCycle route looking at 
 making PDF forms 
  instead of using Excelwholly *%*% do they want a lot 
 of money to be able 
  to create PDF forms that can save their data locally with no web 
  connectionanywhere from $40K to 25 times that I've been 
 quoted...just to 
  allow Acrobat Reader to save PDF form data to the client!!! 
  This is because 
  you require something called Reader Extensions that 
 unlock all kinds of 
  features in the free reader.  What they need is to sell the 
 save data 
  extension seperately for a lot less money (because those 
 prices include all 
  the extensions)...but I digress ;-)

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RE: REPOST Re: OCR and CF

2006-02-22 Thread Eric Lackey
Bryan, what is the benefit of using the barcodes?  It seems like storing
the number would be much simpler.  Just curious.  

Also, I've got a solution to create barcodes in CF, but not read them.
It doesn't sound like that will help you though.  

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 4:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: REPOST Re: OCR and CF

Come on you fellow propeller headssomebody must have some insight on
this 
one ;-)

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: www.electricedgesystems.com
- Original Message - 
From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:47 AM
Subject: SOT: OCR and CF


 Hey All,

 I'm creating some Excel forms that will have a dynamically generated
number in 
 a cell (based on user input...a barcode would be nice if anyone has
some 
 info).  The Excel file will  be submitted via e-mail and CF will check
the 
 mail, grba the attachment, and parse out the data in the Excel file
(storing 
 it in the DB along with this unique number or barcode value).

 The excel form will also be printed and faxed in via a web based fax
service. 
 CF will grab the TIFF from the e-mail sent from the fax service and
then CF 
 will need to read the unique number/barcode via OCR or barcode reader
and 
 match the fax to the record entered from the emialing in of the
spreadsheet.

 So.

 1) Does anyone know of a decent OCR utility that CF could fire up?

 2) If you know how to put barcodes in Excel, please elaborate ;-)

 3) If barcodes in Excel are possible, can anyone reccommend a barcode
reader 
 utility that CF can kick off?

 TIA for any insight

 BTW I have gone down the Adobe LiveCycle route looking at making PDF
forms 
 instead of using Excelwholly *%*% do they want a lot of money to
be able 
 to create PDF forms that can save their data locally with no web 
 connectionanywhere from $40K to 25 times that I've been
quoted...just to 
 allow Acrobat Reader to save PDF form data to the client!!!  This is
because 
 you require something called Reader Extensions that unlock all kinds
of 
 features in the free reader.  What they need is to sell the save
data 
 extension seperately for a lot less money (because those prices
include all 
 the extensions)...but I digress ;-)

 Cheers

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com

 



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Re: REPOST Re: OCR and CF

2006-02-22 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Thanks Jason...their mostly me or answers to my posts ;-)

Cheers

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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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Re: REPOST Re: OCR and CF

2006-02-22 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Hey Eric,

I am assuming barcodes have a higher level of success being read by a barcode 
scanner than plain text by OCRI could be wrong (sh don't tell) ;-)

Yes they ultimately they both equate to a string.

Cheers

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VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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fax: 250.480.1264
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Re: SOT: Developing for 800 x 600 on monitor at higher resolution

2006-02-22 Thread James Holmes
I just set the DW design view to the appropriate browser size.

On 2/23/06, Earl, George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We just got new LCD monitors that have a native resolution of 1280 x
 1024 but we develop for 800 x 600 (inTRAnet standard). Like lots of
 LCDs, these look like crap at anything other than their native
 resolution. If you are in the same boat, how do you develop for a
 non-native resolution like 800 x 600 and make sure that everything fits
 and looks right? Do you pop up an 800 x 600 browser window to view the
 pages? Use a second monitor set to 800 x 600? Use a utility? Thanks!

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Re: A very specific message board/forum question...

2006-02-22 Thread Stan Winchester
So should all html be treated as bad and block it?

HTML editors cause a couple of problems:

#1 - you can break the HTML.
#2 - you can PASTE IN any html you want into tinyMCE.. you'd have to 
parse out the tags you don't want.. and it could still be broken html.
#3 - wysiwyg html editors are slow loading, evne at their most basic.
#4 - wysiwyg html editors very browser dependent.

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