RE: meta tag location

2010-01-07 Thread Kevin Parker

If you are putting them in application.cfm then they will be the same for
all pages - some search engines might see this as metadata spamming and may
penalise you - notwithstanding that I think Google does not rely on metadata
because people tell fibs in metadata but not in the page content so they
index on page content.


++

KPA

++


-Original Message-
From: Les Irvin [mailto:les.cft...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 7 January 2010 6:41 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: meta tag location


I usually put a few meta tags in the application.cfm file, and a few
more on the individual pages.  Is there any danger to not keeping all
the meta tags in one place?  A client claims their google ranking has
fallen since this has been done.
Thanks,
Les



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Adult ColdFusion Websites

2010-01-07 Thread Phillip Vector

Does anyone know of a hosting company that allows adult websites (a
store) that has ColdFusion and allows cffile and such?

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Re: Is it possible for a ColdFusion web service method to return an object?

2010-01-07 Thread Ian Skinner

Using some of Leigh's suggestions I am now successfully returning an 
object as I expected to be able to do.  But there is still some minor 
wierdness.

This code is now working mostly as I would expect it to, accept for some 
strange reason when the nested myObject.cfc is called from the 
webservice code, the getFoo() function will not return the default 
value.  It works properly after setFoo() is used to set a value, but not 
with the initial default value.

*webservice-test.cfm*

|!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
   head
 meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /
 titleComplex Webservice Tests/title
   /head

   body
   div style=width: 39.5%; float:left;
 cfset testObj = createObject(component,webservice)

 getID:cfoutput#testObj.getID()#/cfoutputhr /
 getFoo:cfoutput#testObj.getObj().getFoo()#/cfoutputhr /
 cfset testObj.getObj().setFoo(New Stuff)
 getFoo:cfoutput#testObj.getObj().getFoo()#/cfoutputhr /
 cfdump var=#testObj.getObj()# expand=yeshr /
 cfdump var=#testObj# expand=yes
  /div
 div style=width: 59.5%; float:right;
 cfset testWS = 
createObject(webservice,http://localhost/webservice.cfc?wsdl;)
 cfset nestedObj = testWS.getObj()

 getID:cfoutput#testWS.getID()#/cfoutputhr /
 getFoo:cfoutput#nestedObj.getFoo()#/cfoutputhr /
 cfset nestedObj.setFoo(New Stuff)
 getFoo:cfoutput#nestedObj.getFoo()#/cfoutputhr /
 cfdump var=#nestedObj#
 cfdump var=#testWS#
 /div
   /body
/html

|

*webservice.cfc*

|cfcomponent
 cfproperty name=ID default=10 type=numeric
   cfproperty name=obj type=myobject

   cfset variables.ID = 12
   cfset variables.obj = createObject(component,myobject)

   cffunction name=getID access=remote returntype=numeric
   cfreturn variables.ID
   /cffunction

   cffunction name=getObj access=remote returntype=myobject
   cfreturn variables.obj
   /cffunction
/cfcomponent

|

*myobject.cfc*

|cfcomponent
 cfproperty name=foo default=bar type=string
   cfset variables.foo = bar

 cffunction name=setFoo returntype=void
   cfargument name=foo type=string
 cfset variables.foo = arguments.foo
/cffunction

cffunction name=getFoo returntype=string
  cfreturn variables.foo
/cffunction
/cfcomponent
|



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form.FieldNames

2010-01-07 Thread Chad Gray

How is the order of the elements in #FORM.fieldNames# determined?  Could it be 
different and not well structured?

Like if I have a form with text inputs named foo1, foo2, foo3.

Will #FORM.fieldNames# always be:

Foo1,foo2,foo3?

Or could it be ordered different?

Thanks,
Chad


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Re: meta tag location

2010-01-07 Thread Dave Watts

 From my research on several large commerce websites I have worked on, Google
 does not even use the Meta Description, page Title or URL for page rank or
 position.

In my own experience, the title is used for page rank, but I can't
tell if it affects relevance. Page rank and relevance are, of course,
the two factors that determine which search results you see (and which
you see first).

 So, I don't rely on any forms of SEO to be a magic bullet, These things do
 help them categorize, (title, h1, h2, h3 etc..) but good content
 and relevance is the only silver bullet.

Well, this is really the key.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VSOB) on
GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.

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Re: form.FieldNames

2010-01-07 Thread Barney Boisvert

I would expect the order to be the same as the order that the fields
are submitted to the server (which, in turn, should be the same as the
DOM order of the form elements), but if I wouldn't rely on that
behaviour.  If you need them in a specific order, best to order them
yourself on the server.  This is especially true if you have some sort
of non-HTML (or impure-HTML) interface, since any sort of dynamic
scripting (e.g. JavaScript) can potentially mutate the actual form
submission in an arbitrary way.

cheers,
barneyb

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Chad Gray cg...@careyweb.com wrote:

 How is the order of the elements in #FORM.fieldNames# determined?  Could it 
 be different and not well structured?

 Like if I have a form with text inputs named foo1, foo2, foo3.

 Will #FORM.fieldNames# always be:

 Foo1,foo2,foo3?

 Or could it be ordered different?

 Thanks,
 Chad


 

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RE: meta tag location

2010-01-07 Thread Jacob

The title tag is not a meta tag.  Meta tags are meta name= , not
title/title.

Meta description does nothing for ranking. It helps with click troughs.



-Original Message-
From: Terry Troxel [mailto:te...@it-werks.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 9:49 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: meta tag location


I think you better rethink that one. The Title Meta tag and the Meta
Description tags are 2 very, very important tags as far as the search
engines go. Yes the meta keywords is no longer in use but for proof look in
the organic search for a top ranking page and then view source and a good
percentage of the time you will see the meta description as the anchor text
for the link to the landing page. 

The title and description should be different for every page on the site
too.

Terry 

-Original Message-
From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:51 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: meta tag location


What are the meta tags? Meta tags are 99% useless for search engine ranking.

Remove them and see what happens.

-Original Message-
From: Les Irvin [mailto:les.cft...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:41 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: meta tag location


I usually put a few meta tags in the application.cfm file, and a few
more on the individual pages.  Is there any danger to not keeping all
the meta tags in one place?  A client claims their google ranking has
fallen since this has been done.
Thanks,
Les







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Re: form.FieldNames

2010-01-07 Thread Qing Xia

Additionally, if your form consists of radio buttons which only exist if
users choose something, then your fieldnames list can be out of order when
those radio button fields go missing.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Barney Boisvert bboisv...@gmail.comwrote:


 I would expect the order to be the same as the order that the fields
 are submitted to the server (which, in turn, should be the same as the
 DOM order of the form elements), but if I wouldn't rely on that
 behaviour.  If you need them in a specific order, best to order them
 yourself on the server.  This is especially true if you have some sort
 of non-HTML (or impure-HTML) interface, since any sort of dynamic
 scripting (e.g. JavaScript) can potentially mutate the actual form
 submission in an arbitrary way.

 cheers,
 barneyb

 On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Chad Gray cg...@careyweb.com wrote:
 
  How is the order of the elements in #FORM.fieldNames# determined?  Could
 it be different and not well structured?
 
  Like if I have a form with text inputs named foo1, foo2, foo3.
 
  Will #FORM.fieldNames# always be:
 
  Foo1,foo2,foo3?
 
  Or could it be ordered different?
 
  Thanks,
  Chad
 
 
 

 

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RE: meta tag location

2010-01-07 Thread Jacob

Fresh, unique content and quality backlinks... that is 98% of the battle.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 8:22 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: meta tag location


 From my research on several large commerce websites I have worked on,
Google
 does not even use the Meta Description, page Title or URL for page rank or
 position.

In my own experience, the title is used for page rank, but I can't
tell if it affects relevance. Page rank and relevance are, of course,
the two factors that determine which search results you see (and which
you see first).

 So, I don't rely on any forms of SEO to be a magic bullet, These things do
 help them categorize, (title, h1, h2, h3 etc..) but good content
 and relevance is the only silver bullet.

Well, this is really the key.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VSOB) on
GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.



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RE: form.FieldNames

2010-01-07 Thread Chad Gray

Thanks for the insight guys.

I will use listSort() before processing the form.FieldNames.  This is better 
than relying on DOMs and such to do the ordering.

Chad


 -Original Message-
 From: Qing Xia [mailto:txiasum...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:42 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: form.FieldNames
 
 
 Additionally, if your form consists of radio buttons which only exist if
 users choose something, then your fieldnames list can be out of order when
 those radio button fields go missing.
 
 On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Barney Boisvert
 bboisv...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 
  I would expect the order to be the same as the order that the fields
  are submitted to the server (which, in turn, should be the same as the
  DOM order of the form elements), but if I wouldn't rely on that
  behaviour.  If you need them in a specific order, best to order them
  yourself on the server.  This is especially true if you have some sort
  of non-HTML (or impure-HTML) interface, since any sort of dynamic
  scripting (e.g. JavaScript) can potentially mutate the actual form
  submission in an arbitrary way.
 
  cheers,
  barneyb
 
  On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Chad Gray cg...@careyweb.com wrote:
  
   How is the order of the elements in #FORM.fieldNames# determined?
 Could
  it be different and not well structured?
  
   Like if I have a form with text inputs named foo1, foo2, foo3.
  
   Will #FORM.fieldNames# always be:
  
   Foo1,foo2,foo3?
  
   Or could it be ordered different?
  
   Thanks,
   Chad
  
  
  
 
 
 
 

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Re: meta tag location

2010-01-07 Thread Jerry Johnson

Google doesn't use the keywords metatag
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2009/09/google-does-not-use-keywords-meta-tag.html

But...
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/09/improve-snippets-with-meta-description.html

Good explanation on what it does with each meta tag
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/12/answering-more-popular-picks-meta-tags.html

Jerry

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:

 In my own experience, the title is used for page rank, but I can't
 tell if it affects relevance. Page rank and relevance are, of course,
 the two factors that determine which search results you see (and which
 you see first).



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Re: form.FieldNames

2010-01-07 Thread Dave Watts

 How is the order of the elements in #FORM.fieldNames# determined?  Could it 
 be different and not well structured?

 Like if I have a form with text inputs named foo1, foo2, foo3.

 Will #FORM.fieldNames# always be:

 Foo1,foo2,foo3?

 Or could it be ordered different?

Structures are essentially unordered containers. You should not rely
on a specific ordering behavior when iterating through a structure, as
there is no guarantee that the current ordering behavior will work in
any different version of CF. Scopes are exposed as structures, so I
would recommend treating them the same way.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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I am just not understanding how to make a web service.

2010-01-07 Thread Ian Skinner

my web service.

cfcomponent
 cfproperty name=id default=10 type=numeric

   cfset variables.id = 10

 cffunction name=setId access=remote returntype=void
 cfargument name=id type=numeric required=yes
 cfset variables.id = arguments.id
 /cffunction

   cffunction name=getId access=remote returntype=numeric
   cfreturn variables.id
   /cffunction
/cfcomponent


my test page.

   pCall component as web service/p
   cfset myWS = 
createObject(webservice,http://10.104.106.39:8080/ian.cfc?wsdl;)
   cfoutput#myWS.getId()#/cfoutput
   cfset myWS.setId(888)
   cfoutput#myWS.getId()#/cfoutput
   cfdump var=#myWS#


Both outputs are outputting the same value of 10.  The web service does 
not seem to be maintaining state from one method call to another.


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jquery javascript coldfusion.navigate cflayout cfdiv

2010-01-07 Thread David Mineer

We cannot get a simple jquery function to work using coldfusion.navigate,
cflayout and a cfdiv.  One of those 3 or a combination is causing us fits.

page 1: checkbox2.cfm
--
script src=
http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.3.2/jquery.min.js;/scripthttp://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.3.2/jquery.min.js%22%3E%3C/script


script
$(document).ready(function(){

 $(#checkboxall).click(function()
  {
   var checked_status = this.checked;
   $(input[name=mapid]).each(function()
   {
this.checked = checked_status;
   });
  });

});
/script

label for=checkboxallSelect Allinput id=checkboxall type=checkbox
/

FORM
 input name=mapid type=checkbox /BR
 input name=mapid type=checkbox /BR
 input name=mapid type=checkbox /BR
/form

Page 2: checkboxtest.cfm

cflayout type=border name=layoutborder
  cflayoutarea name=Center position=center
a href=javascript:ColdFusion.navigate('checkbox2.cfm','catz')Click
Here/a
  /cflayoutarea
/cflayout
cfdiv id=catz
/cfdiv

---

The first page, by itself works just fine.  The second page gives an error
and we cannot figure out a solution.  I really like the dynamic nature of
using coldfusion.navigate to load a page into the cfdiv on the fly.

How can I make the second page work?

-- 
David Mineer Jr
-
The critical ingredient is getting off your
butt and doing something. It's as simple
as that. A lot of people have ideas, but
there are few who decide to do
something about them now. Not
tomorrow. Not next week. But today.
The true entrepreneur is a doer.


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Re: I am just not understanding how to make a web service.

2010-01-07 Thread Dave Watts

 Both outputs are outputting the same value of 10.  The web service does
 not seem to be maintaining state from one method call to another.

Right! Web service calls don't maintain state by default. You have to
manage state yourself.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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Re: jquery javascript coldfusion.navigate cflayout cfdiv

2010-01-07 Thread Martin Franklin

Have you tried including the jQuery library on target page?

- Original Message - 
From: David Mineer min...@gmail.com
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 12:09 PM
Subject: ***SPAM*** jquery javascript coldfusion.navigate cflayout cfdiv



 We cannot get a simple jquery function to work using coldfusion.navigate,
 cflayout and a cfdiv.  One of those 3 or a combination is causing us fits.

 page 1: checkbox2.cfm
 --
 script src=
 http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.3.2/jquery.min.js;/scripthttp://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.3.2/jquery.min.js%22%3E%3C/script


 script
 $(document).ready(function(){

 $(#checkboxall).click(function()
  {
   var checked_status = this.checked;
   $(input[name=mapid]).each(function()
   {
this.checked = checked_status;
   });
  });

 });
 /script

 label for=checkboxallSelect Allinput id=checkboxall type=checkbox
 /

 FORM
 input name=mapid type=checkbox /BR
 input name=mapid type=checkbox /BR
 input name=mapid type=checkbox /BR
 /form
 
 Page 2: checkboxtest.cfm

 cflayout type=border name=layoutborder
  cflayoutarea name=Center position=center
a href=javascript:ColdFusion.navigate('checkbox2.cfm','catz')Click
 Here/a
  /cflayoutarea
 /cflayout
 cfdiv id=catz
 /cfdiv

 ---

 The first page, by itself works just fine.  The second page gives an error
 and we cannot figure out a solution.  I really like the dynamic nature of
 using coldfusion.navigate to load a page into the cfdiv on the fly.

 How can I make the second page work?

 -- 
 David Mineer Jr
 -
 The critical ingredient is getting off your
 butt and doing something. It's as simple
 as that. A lot of people have ideas, but
 there are few who decide to do
 something about them now. Not
 tomorrow. Not next week. But today.
 The true entrepreneur is a doer.


 

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Re: I am just not understanding how to make a web service.

2010-01-07 Thread Dave Watts

 Both outputs are outputting the same value of 10.  The web service does
 not seem to be maintaining state from one method call to another.

 Right! Web service calls don't maintain state by default. You have to
 manage state yourself.

To be more specific to my own reply, when you invoke a web service
method, you are instantiating your object and then immediately
destroying it, just like if you used CFINVOKE to call a method
directly. If you want to manage state, you can write to a persistent
store (Session, Application, Server scopes, databases, etc, although
the Session scope relies on the caller to pass the session token on
subsequent requests, which may not happen).

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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Re: I am just not understanding how to make a web service.

2010-01-07 Thread Ian Skinner

If I am understanding Dave correctly.

A web service component does not maintain state natively.  Thus 
information stored in the 'this' and 'variables' scope of a component 
are not maintained from one call to another.

But the web service component can access the other cross request scopes 
such as server, application and session.  So if I want to maintain 
state, I need to write and read the state data from one of these scopes 
with the web service.  Is that correct, Dave?  You where talking about 
the web service component code writing and reading to the application or 
session scope, NOT the consuming code.

Continuing this train of thought, since web service calls do not include 
cookies, normal session state is not maintained and I would have to 
handle that myself.

Does anybody have any good pointers or reading material about suggested 
methods to maintain state across web service calls.  I.E. is there 
someway to pass the normal cookie values into the web service and allow 
the web service code to access the session scope?

TIA

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Re: jquery javascript coldfusion.navigate cflayout cfdiv

2010-01-07 Thread David Mineer

It was on the target page (the page that is called by coldfusion.navigate,
checkbox2.cfm)

Moving it to the parent page (checkboxtest.cfm) actually gets rid of the
error message, but the function does not work.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Martin Franklin ma...@assetresearch.comwrote:


 Have you tried including the jQuery library on target page?

 - Original Message -
 From: David Mineer min...@gmail.com
 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 12:09 PM
 Subject: ***SPAM*** jquery javascript coldfusion.navigate cflayout cfdiv


 
  We cannot get a simple jquery function to work using coldfusion.navigate,
  cflayout and a cfdiv.  One of those 3 or a combination is causing us
 fits.
 
  page 1: checkbox2.cfm
  --
  script src=
  http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.3.2/jquery.min.js
 /script
 http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.3.2/jquery.min.js%22%3E%3C/script
 
  
 
  script
  $(document).ready(function(){
 
  $(#checkboxall).click(function()
   {
var checked_status = this.checked;
$(input[name=mapid]).each(function()
{
 this.checked = checked_status;
});
   });
 
  });
  /script
 
  label for=checkboxallSelect Allinput id=checkboxall
 type=checkbox
  /
 
  FORM
  input name=mapid type=checkbox /BR
  input name=mapid type=checkbox /BR
  input name=mapid type=checkbox /BR
  /form
  
  Page 2: checkboxtest.cfm
 
  cflayout type=border name=layoutborder
   cflayoutarea name=Center position=center
 a href=javascript:ColdFusion.navigate('checkbox2.cfm','catz')Click
  Here/a
   /cflayoutarea
  /cflayout
  cfdiv id=catz
  /cfdiv
 
  ---
 
  The first page, by itself works just fine.  The second page gives an
 error
  and we cannot figure out a solution.  I really like the dynamic nature of
  using coldfusion.navigate to load a page into the cfdiv on the fly.
 
  How can I make the second page work?
 
  --
  David Mineer Jr
  -
  The critical ingredient is getting off your
  butt and doing something. It's as simple
  as that. A lot of people have ideas, but
  there are few who decide to do
  something about them now. Not
  tomorrow. Not next week. But today.
  The true entrepreneur is a doer.
 
 
 

 

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Re: jquery javascript coldfusion.navigate cflayout cfdiv

2010-01-07 Thread Qing Xia

I am a jQuery newbie so I definitely feel your pain.  One method that has
worked for me is to the bottom-up approach.

Start with a bare-bone simple form with just the jQuery stuff and then add
the other stuff you want in, one by one.  Make sure to also strip down your
CSS file to just those definitions directly relating to the jQuery
stuff. This way you can figure out when it stops working and then narrow it
down to the prime suspect.

The other thing is to test the stuff at each stage in all browsers you have.
 If it doesn't work in any of them, then you know the problem is your code.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:07 PM, David Mineer min...@gmail.com wrote:


 It was on the target page (the page that is called by coldfusion.navigate,
 checkbox2.cfm)

 Moving it to the parent page (checkboxtest.cfm) actually gets rid of the
 error message, but the function does not work.

 On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Martin Franklin ma...@assetresearch.com
 wrote:

 
  Have you tried including the jQuery library on target page?
 
  - Original Message -
  From: David Mineer min...@gmail.com
  To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 12:09 PM
  Subject: ***SPAM*** jquery javascript coldfusion.navigate cflayout cfdiv
 
 
  
   We cannot get a simple jquery function to work using
 coldfusion.navigate,
   cflayout and a cfdiv.  One of those 3 or a combination is causing us
  fits.
  
   page 1: checkbox2.cfm
   --
   script src=
   http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.3.2/jquery.min.js
  /script
 
 http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.3.2/jquery.min.js%22%3E%3C/script
  
   
  
   script
   $(document).ready(function(){
  
   $(#checkboxall).click(function()
{
 var checked_status = this.checked;
 $(input[name=mapid]).each(function()
 {
  this.checked = checked_status;
 });
});
  
   });
   /script
  
   label for=checkboxallSelect Allinput id=checkboxall
  type=checkbox
   /
  
   FORM
   input name=mapid type=checkbox /BR
   input name=mapid type=checkbox /BR
   input name=mapid type=checkbox /BR
   /form
   
   Page 2: checkboxtest.cfm
  
   cflayout type=border name=layoutborder
cflayoutarea name=Center position=center
  a
 href=javascript:ColdFusion.navigate('checkbox2.cfm','catz')Click
   Here/a
/cflayoutarea
   /cflayout
   cfdiv id=catz
   /cfdiv
  
   ---
  
   The first page, by itself works just fine.  The second page gives an
  error
   and we cannot figure out a solution.  I really like the dynamic nature
 of
   using coldfusion.navigate to load a page into the cfdiv on the fly.
  
   How can I make the second page work?
  
   --
   David Mineer Jr
   -
   The critical ingredient is getting off your
   butt and doing something. It's as simple
   as that. A lot of people have ideas, but
   there are few who decide to do
   something about them now. Not
   tomorrow. Not next week. But today.
   The true entrepreneur is a doer.
  
  
  
 
 

 

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Re: I am just not understanding how to make a web service.

2010-01-07 Thread Dave Watts

 A web service component does not maintain state natively.  Thus
 information stored in the 'this' and 'variables' scope of a component
 are not maintained from one call to another.

Right.

 But the web service component can access the other cross request scopes
 such as server, application and session.  So if I want to maintain
 state, I need to write and read the state data from one of these scopes
 with the web service.  Is that correct, Dave?  You where talking about
 the web service component code writing and reading to the application or
 session scope, NOT the consuming code.

Right.

 Continuing this train of thought, since web service calls do not include
 cookies, normal session state is not maintained and I would have to
 handle that myself.

Not necessarily right. Some web service clients will pass cookies
properly. I believe that CF does this, so if you have your application
set to use cookies with session management, your CF client should work
fine.

 Does anybody have any good pointers or reading material about suggested
 methods to maintain state across web service calls.  I.E. is there
 someway to pass the normal cookie values into the web service and allow
 the web service code to access the session scope?

If you want, you can build your own state management mechanism that
would basically return a token on the first method call, then accept
that token on subsequent method calls - basically just what cookies
do, but an explicit value that would be passed as an argument to
subsequent requests. But I suspect that most web service clients
support cookies by default nowadays.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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http://training.figleaf.com/

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CFHTTP wierdness

2010-01-07 Thread Jeff Langevin

So I've got a production and a live server.  Both running CF8, Win 2003 Server 
Standard Ed, IIS6.  Both have the same code calling a remote, non-CF-based web 
service via a cfhttp call to an https URL.  We are getting sporadic Connection 
Failure messages from cfhttp.  This clearly isn't the old cfhttp_5 inability 
to connect to a secure site because it works normally.  However, it the dev 
server can still often connect when the production server can't.  Though we 
definitely sometimes experience the inability to connect on both sometimes.  
I've tried changing timeouts anywhere from 5 to 60 seconds.  I now loop over 
the attempt to connect a bunch of times before showing an error message to the 
user.  

I know this is a shot in the dark, but I figured I would ask if anyone has 
experienced anything like this or has any thoughts.  I'm also open to 
suggestions on how to try to diagnose the problem.

--Jeff

p.s.  The web service is pretty esoteric - Kintera Sphere

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Re: jquery javascript coldfusion.navigate cflayout cfdiv

2010-01-07 Thread David Mineer

The answer came from the jedi master himself Ray Camden:

if you put the click handler in the root document,
and switch it to Live(), then it will work.

So changing the event handler to
   $(#checkboxall).live(click,function()  {
Makes it work.

Even Ray was a little surprised that Live() was needed in this case.  I
never even heard of Live() cause I don't use jQuery that much, I should
start.

But it works now, thanks All.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Qing Xia txiasum...@gmail.com wrote:


 I am a jQuery newbie so I definitely feel your pain.  One method that has
 worked for me is to the bottom-up approach.

 Start with a bare-bone simple form with just the jQuery stuff and then add
 the other stuff you want in, one by one.  Make sure to also strip down your
 CSS file to just those definitions directly relating to the jQuery
 stuff. This way you can figure out when it stops working and then narrow it
 down to the prime suspect.

 The other thing is to test the stuff at each stage in all browsers you
 have.
  If it doesn't work in any of them, then you know the problem is your code.

 On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:07 PM, David Mineer min...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  It was on the target page (the page that is called by
 coldfusion.navigate,
  checkbox2.cfm)
 
  Moving it to the parent page (checkboxtest.cfm) actually gets rid of the
  error message, but the function does not work.
 
  On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Martin Franklin 
 ma...@assetresearch.com
  wrote:
 
  
   Have you tried including the jQuery library on target page?
  
   - Original Message -
   From: David Mineer min...@gmail.com
   To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
   Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 12:09 PM
   Subject: ***SPAM*** jquery javascript coldfusion.navigate cflayout
 cfdiv
  
  
   
We cannot get a simple jquery function to work using
  coldfusion.navigate,
cflayout and a cfdiv.  One of those 3 or a combination is causing us
   fits.
   
page 1: checkbox2.cfm
--
script src=
http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.3.2/jquery.min.js
   /script
  
 
 http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.3.2/jquery.min.js%22%3E%3C/script
   

   
script
$(document).ready(function(){
   
$(#checkboxall).click(function()
 {
  var checked_status = this.checked;
  $(input[name=mapid]).each(function()
  {
   this.checked = checked_status;
  });
 });
   
});
/script
   
label for=checkboxallSelect Allinput id=checkboxall
   type=checkbox
/
   
FORM
input name=mapid type=checkbox /BR
input name=mapid type=checkbox /BR
input name=mapid type=checkbox /BR
/form

Page 2: checkboxtest.cfm
   
cflayout type=border name=layoutborder
 cflayoutarea name=Center position=center
   a
  href=javascript:ColdFusion.navigate('checkbox2.cfm','catz')Click
Here/a
 /cflayoutarea
/cflayout
cfdiv id=catz
/cfdiv
   
---
   
The first page, by itself works just fine.  The second page gives an
   error
and we cannot figure out a solution.  I really like the dynamic
 nature
  of
using coldfusion.navigate to load a page into the cfdiv on the fly.
   
How can I make the second page work?
   
--
David Mineer Jr
-
The critical ingredient is getting off your
butt and doing something. It's as simple
as that. A lot of people have ideas, but
there are few who decide to do
something about them now. Not
tomorrow. Not next week. But today.
The true entrepreneur is a doer.
   
   
   
  
  
 
 

 

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Mail directory locked

2010-01-07 Thread Michael Dinowitz

Here's one that was supposed to be solved in earlier versions of
ColdFusion. I'm using ColdFusion 8 and every time the system tries to
send an email, the following error is generated:

An exception occurred when setting up mail server parameters. This
exception was caused by:
coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler$SpoolLockTimeoutException: A timeout
occurred while waiting for the lock on the mail spool directory..

So the question is, what is causing this lock? From what I can see,
there are no permission issues with the mail directory. Anyone have a
clue?

Thanks

--
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Re: I am just not understanding how to make a web service.

2010-01-07 Thread Ian Skinner

On 1/7/2010 12:48 PM, Dave Watts wrote:

 Not necessarily right. Some web service clients will pass cookies
 properly. I believe that CF does this, so if you have your application
 set to use cookies with session management, your CF client should work
 fine.


How would this work?  Adding a function that returns the session state 
of the Web service.

cffunction name=getSESSION access=remote returntype=struct
cfreturn session
/cffunction

And invoking after each WS call from my consuming page.
cfoutput#testWS.getID()#/cfoutput
cfdump var=#testWS.getSESSION()#
cfset testWS.setID(44)
cfdump var=#testWS.getSESSION()#
cfoutput#testWS.getID()#/cfoutput
cfdump var=#testWS.getSESSION()#

Shows me getting a new session state with each call.  Is there something 
I need to do so that the session cookies are passed with the web service 
request?

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Re: I am just not understanding how to make a web service.

2010-01-07 Thread Dave Watts

 Shows me getting a new session state with each call.  Is there something
 I need to do so that the session cookies are passed with the web service
 request?

Is the web service in a directory that has session management enabled
in Application.cfm/cfc?

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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http://training.figleaf.com/

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Re: Mail directory locked

2010-01-07 Thread Dave Watts

 Here's one that was supposed to be solved in earlier versions of
 ColdFusion. I'm using ColdFusion 8 and every time the system tries to
 send an email, the following error is generated:

 An exception occurred when setting up mail server parameters. This
 exception was caused by:
 coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler$SpoolLockTimeoutException: A timeout
 occurred while waiting for the lock on the mail spool directory..

 So the question is, what is causing this lock? From what I can see,
 there are no permission issues with the mail directory. Anyone have a
 clue?

Locking problems don't necessarily indicate improperly-set
permissions. If it's a Windows box, you can use the Sysinternals
Filemon tool to see what's accessing the directory. Or, you could just
cycle the service and see if it's able to acquire a lock after
restart.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.

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RE: CFHTTP wierdness

2010-01-07 Thread brad

Hmm, it almost sounds like an intermittent network problem.  Out of
curiosity what if you set up a cfexecute to capture the results of a
ping command to the remote server at the time it failed.  If it turns
out to be something low-level like that you might save some time trouble
CFML that is just fine.

Also, if the error can be reproduced fairly easily, you can try setting
up a packet sniffer (like WireShark) on your server to capture the
traffic and see what is happening.  You'd probably want to set up some
pre-capture filters though-- capture files could get big pretty quick on
a server with a lot of network traffic.

~Brad


 Original Message 
Subject: CFHTTP wierdness
From: Jeff Langevin jlange...@outdoors.org
Date: Thu, January 07, 2010 2:51 pm
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com


So I've got a production and a live server. Both running CF8, Win 2003
Server Standard Ed, IIS6. Both have the same code calling a remote,
non-CF-based web service via a cfhttp call to an https URL. We are
getting sporadic Connection Failure messages from cfhttp. This clearly
isn't the old cfhttp_5 inability to connect to a secure site because it
works normally. However, it the dev server can still often connect when
the production server can't. Though we definitely sometimes experience
the inability to connect on both sometimes. I've tried changing timeouts
anywhere from 5 to 60 seconds. I now loop over the attempt to connect a
bunch of times before showing an error message to the user. 

I know this is a shot in the dark, but I figured I would ask if anyone
has experienced anything like this or has any thoughts. I'm also open to
suggestions on how to try to diagnose the problem.



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RE: Mail directory locked

2010-01-07 Thread brad

I don't have any direct experience with that error, but I can suggest a
tool such as filemon (looks like it's been rolled into process monitor
now) to try and find what process is holding the locks at least.  It
might be a bit of a needle in the hay, but it's a start.  Also, pulling
a full thread dump of your JVM might show you if the folder is being
locked by another thread.

~Brad


 Original Message 
Subject: Mail directory locked
From: Michael Dinowitz mdino...@houseoffusion.com
Date: Thu, January 07, 2010 3:24 pm
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com


Here's one that was supposed to be solved in earlier versions of
ColdFusion. I'm using ColdFusion 8 and every time the system tries to
send an email, the following error is generated:

An exception occurred when setting up mail server parameters. This
exception was caused by:
coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler$SpoolLockTimeoutException: A timeout
occurred while waiting for the lock on the mail spool directory..

So the question is, what is causing this lock? From what I can see,
there are no permission issues with the mail directory. Anyone have a
clue?




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RE: I am just not understanding how to make a web service.

2010-01-07 Thread brad

In my experience CF has not returned cookies to web service calls-- at
least when calling them from cfhttp that is.

If you can't get createObject or cfinvoke to work, you can check out
this post which shows you how to collect and return cookies manually if
you are consuming a web service with CFML that requires cookies to
manage session persistence.

http://www.bennadel.com/blog/725-Maintaining-Sessions-Across-Multiple-ColdFusion-CFHttp-Requests.htm
http://www.bennadel.com/projects/cfhttp-session.htm

~Brad

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: I am just not understanding how to make a web service.
From: Ian Skinner h...@ilsweb.com
Date: Thu, January 07, 2010 3:45 pm
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com

your CF client should work


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RE: Mail directory locked

2010-01-07 Thread brad

Sorry, I forgot to paste the link.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx

~Brad

 Original Message 
Subject: RE: Mail directory locked
From: b...@bradwood.com
Date: Thu, January 07, 2010 4:49 pm
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com


I don't have any direct experience with that error, but I can suggest a
tool such as filemon 


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Re: I am just not understanding how to make a web service.

2010-01-07 Thread Ian Skinner

On 1/7/2010 2:13 PM, Dave Watts wrote:

 Is the web service in a directory that has session management enabled
 in Application.cfm/cfc?


Yes, I have a successful session scope.  But the state is not being 
maintained.  Every request from the consuming CFML file is generating a 
new session scope with a new CFID and CFTOKEN.

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Re: Adult ColdFusion Websites

2010-01-07 Thread Mike Kear

Yes, we do, provided the site meets our TOS (the content is legal in
your jurisdiction and also in California, and in Australia,  and
doesn't breach copyrights of others.)(We campaign for musician's
and songwriters royalty rights, so we cant have any of our clients
joining the 'other side'.)

Most web hosting companies have problems with adult sites, because
they are prone to several problems that impact the rest of the system:

[A] Huge volumes that take bandwidth from other users
[B] Constant attacks that bring with them risks to other users
[C] copyright and other legal issues

Believe it or not,  few hosting companies are against adult sites for
morality reasons, although I suspect there must be some.

To accept an adult site into our system we would need to make sure we
have adequately provided for the resources the site would require, and
if it went outside the quotas allocated to it,  we would need to
provide more at additional cost.   I guess a kind of 'probation
period' if the site is new and doesn't have any prior statistics to
work from.


Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month



On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Phillip Vector
vec...@mostdeadlygame.com wrote:

 Does anyone know of a hosting company that allows adult websites (a
 store) that has ColdFusion and allows cffile and such?



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CFMEDIAPLAYER Issues

2010-01-07 Thread j...@videotex.net j...@videotex.net

We have upgraded to CF9 and I'm trying to use the CFMEDIAPLAYER rather than the 
Wimpy Wasp player we have been using on CF8 and earlier.

However, it seems like CFMEDIAPLAYER has some major issues and limitations.  In 
IE (versions 8, 7 and 6), for example, it ignores the hidetitle=true which 
does work in FireFox.

It also doesn't seem to have the basic option of having a title image display 
when the player is off, or the more advanced options of making the control bar 
a rollover with the play button an overlay over the image/video or using the 
first frame of the video as title image (although it does display the first 
frame as a closing image).

I'm hoping I'm missing something basic - it seems hard to belive that with 
ColdFusion part of Adobe it would have such a lame media player.



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