Re: Adobe ColdFusion Anthology released

2010-05-05 Thread Sean Corfield

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 6:29 PM, David McGuigan davidmcgui...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was really disappointed to see that the two frameworks with the most 
 momentum ( impression ) and that I'm most excited to learn about aren't 
 covered in the book ( ColdBox and CFWheels ), while a few less relevant 
 topics are ( Reactor, CFPresentation, CFEclipse ).

I guess no one has written articles on those frameworks for the Fusion
Authority folks.

I remember years ago that some people complained that macromedia.com
had no Fusebox content back in the day when that was your only
choice for CFML frameworks. We put out a big request for Fusebox
articles everywhere we could and got...

Just one solitary article (from Kay Smoljak).

So the macromedia.com representation of Fusebox was due to the Fusebox
community not actually providing any.

If the ColdBox and cfWheels folks want their frameworks to be
represented, they need to write articles :)
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Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?

2010-05-05 Thread Sean Corfield

Hmm, I guess you missed the whole ECMAScript 3 / ECMAScript 4 debacle
around ActionScript then?

Here's a joke: What's the difference between an ActionScript
programmer and an Objective-C programmer? The Objective-C programmer
doesn't care that you program in ActionScript!

(The original joke is What's the difference between a non-tattoo'd
person and a tattoo'd person?... but I think it applies in this
situation too :)

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Brad Wood b...@bradwood.com wrote:
 Have you looked into HTML 5?  I hear it does everything Flash does.  Your
 clients can wait another 5 years for the spec to be implemented, righ

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Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?

2010-05-05 Thread Jochem van Dieten

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Sean Corfield wrote:
 Hmm, I guess you missed the whole ECMAScript 3 / ECMAScript 4 debacle
 around ActionScript then?

Which continues with ECMAScript 5 and ActionScript. ECMA may have
gotten back on track and had ECMAScript 5 ratified last year, but
Adobe is still not moving on ActionScript. They have held up certain
improvements for year with the excuse that ECMA needed to make a
decision, and now they are still not doing anything.

Jochem

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Re: Bind CFgrid data to Textbox

2010-05-05 Thread Joy Rose

As far as I can tell using CF9, the value field can't be used in CFGrid.


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Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?

2010-05-05 Thread Dave Watts

 Hmm, I guess you missed the whole ECMAScript 3 / ECMAScript 4 debacle
 around ActionScript then?

 Here's a joke: What's the difference between an ActionScript
 programmer and an Objective-C programmer? The Objective-C programmer
 doesn't care that you program in ActionScript!

What's the relevance of that to the original poster's problem, though?
Setting aside which vendor isn't implementing which standard properly,
HTML 5 doesn't provide analogous functionality to FP 10, and if you're
waiting for HTML 5 to catch up, you will have some time on your hands.
The fact that Adobe's dragging their heels on ECMAScript compatibility
reinforces the argument that vendors don't implement standards quickly
enough or well enough, doesn't it?

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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Re: Adobe ColdFusion Anthology released

2010-05-05 Thread Judith Dinowitz

I also would have liked to include an article on CFWheels and one on ColdBox, 
but as Sean noted, we didn't have any articles on those topics. Right now I'm 
talking to one of our authors about doing a CFWheels article, and I'd welcome a 
ColdBox article as well. If you would like to write one, just send an email to 
me (http://www.fusionauthority.com/contact.cfm). Maybe we can get those 
frameworks into future editions.

Thanks so much for all of the good wishes. I'm proud of the book (and happy to 
see it out there.) A lot of people -- authors, technical reviewers and editors 
-- put a lot of effort into it across the board, and we thank them all in the 
acknowledgments and author's pages in the book itself (which you can read in 
the Amazon.com link).

Judith

 On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 6:29 PM, David McGuigan davidmcgui...@gmail.
 com wrote:
  I was really disappointed to see that the two frameworks with the 
 most momentum ( impression ) and that I'm most excited to learn about 
 aren't covered in the book ( ColdBox and CFWheels ), while a few less 
 relevant topics are ( Reactor, CFPresentation, CFEclipse ).
 
 I guess no one has written articles on those frameworks for the 
 Fusion
 Authority folks.
 
 I remember years ago that some people complained that macromedia.com
 had no Fusebox content back in the day when that was your only
 choice for CFML frameworks. We put out a big request for Fusebox
 articles everywhere we could and got...
 
 Just one solitary article (from Kay Smoljak).
 
 So the macromedia.com representation of Fusebox was due to the 
 Fusebox
 community not actually providing any.
 
 If the ColdBox and cfWheels folks want their frameworks to be
 represented, they need to write articles :)
 -- 
 Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN


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Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?

2010-05-05 Thread Dawn Sekel

I have looked into HTML5 -- but I can't find any references for how you would 
do things like gotoAndPlay() like you can in Flash.  The site I have been 
developing has very similar banner to that of www.UTAH.gov.  When you click the 
menu at the top, a text menu overlays the image.  And when you point at things 
in the banner, hints display.  Our users are mostly Law Enforcement and many 
use iPhones.  A lot of them are also Apple users for some reason.  I found some 
code that I'm testing to detect the iPad on the site that seems to work well.  
Currently if you go to my beta site with the iPhone it shows everything but the 
.swf files.  If you go to it with the iPAD - it just says ERROR and doesn't 
display anything.   

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Javascript elements not recognized

2010-05-05 Thread fun and learning

Hi All,

I am trying to do the following:

script language=javascript
   cfquery name=test datasource=test
  select a from table1
   /cfquery

   cfif #test.recordcount# neq 0
   document.forms[0].method = post;
   document.forms[0].target = _blank; 
  document.forms[0].action = index.cfm;
   document.forms[0].submit()   ;
   cfelse
   document.forms[0].method = post;
   document.forms[0].target = _blank; 
  document.forms[0].action = index2.cfm;
   document.forms[0].submit()   ;
   /cfif
/script

When the record count is not zero, I am able to navigate correctly, but the 
javascript in cfelse is not recognized. In one place it works fine, but in one 
of the places, the javascript within cfelse does not work. Can anyone point out 
or let me know what could be the possible problem.

Thanks 

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cfimage info or info in database

2010-05-05 Thread Seamus Campbell

Hi
Is it more efficient to store info (height, width etc) in a database for 
retrieval when displaying an image
or
get the height, width info on the fly from cfimage action = info?

It's easy (in my current project) to store the height, width info in the 
database when a new image is added

Ta
Seamus 

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RE: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?

2010-05-05 Thread Mark A. Kruger

Dawn,

We have a project like this pending. I would be interested in anything
resources you uncover - thanks :)

Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com


-Original Message-
From: Dawn Sekel [mailto:dawnt...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 2:23 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?


I have looked into HTML5 -- but I can't find any references for how you
would do things like gotoAndPlay() like you can in Flash.  The site I have
been developing has very similar banner to that of www.UTAH.gov.  When you
click the menu at the top, a text menu overlays the image.  And when you
point at things in the banner, hints display.  Our users are mostly Law
Enforcement and many use iPhones.  A lot of them are also Apple users for
some reason.  I found some code that I'm testing to detect the iPad on the
site that seems to work well.  Currently if you go to my beta site with the
iPhone it shows everything but the .swf files.  If you go to it with the
iPAD - it just says ERROR and doesn't display anything.   



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RE: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?

2010-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth

Hi, Mark...

Have you looked into using jQuery or another javascript library
for something like this?  I don't think it would be very difficult
to code in jQuery.

I've got a real estate agent I'm building a site for and she wants
the typical Flash-based virtual tours, but I'm going to try to emulate
the Flash with jQuery.  That will involve using photos like in the
top of Utah.gov at the very least.

Rick


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 4:04 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?


Dawn,

We have a project like this pending. I would be interested in anything
resources you uncover - thanks :)

Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com


-Original Message-
From: Dawn Sekel [mailto:dawnt...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 2:23 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?


I have looked into HTML5 -- but I can't find any references for how you
would do things like gotoAndPlay() like you can in Flash.  The site I have
been developing has very similar banner to that of www.UTAH.gov.  When you
click the menu at the top, a text menu overlays the image.  And when you
point at things in the banner, hints display.  Our users are mostly Law
Enforcement and many use iPhones.  A lot of them are also Apple users for
some reason.  I found some code that I'm testing to detect the iPad on the
site that seems to work well.  Currently if you go to my beta site with the
iPhone it shows everything but the .swf files.  If you go to it with the
iPAD - it just says ERROR and doesn't display anything.   





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Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?

2010-05-05 Thread Sean Corfield

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:
 What's the relevance of that to the original poster's problem, though?

It was a dig at Brad's attempt to derail the discussion into the tired
old Adobe vs Apple debate that everyone seems to enjoy having at the
moment. In other words, it was intended to highlight that Brad's
sarcastic comment wasn't useful to the original poster...

As others have suggested, I'd go with an investigation of jQuery and
HTML as a possible solution - for the specific use cases that Dawn
needs to address. One of the issues with touch screens is that mouse
over / hover just don't work the same way so something designed based
on that feature simply isn't going to fly as-is on a touch device.
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Re: Web Programming Cert

2010-05-05 Thread Kris Sisk

I'm thinking that this might be a good deal

http://www.oreillyschool.com/certificates/web-programming.php

It mostly looks good, but there's a Perl class in there. Don't get me wrong, I 
know Perl, I like Perl, and I write a whole lot of scripts for my own personal 
use in Perl. I even cut my web development teeth on a chat room written in 
Perl, but who uses it for web programming anymore? 

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Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?

2010-05-05 Thread Dave Watts

 It was a dig at Brad's attempt to derail the discussion into the tired
 old Adobe vs Apple debate that everyone seems to enjoy having at the
 moment. In other words, it was intended to highlight that Brad's
 sarcastic comment wasn't useful to the original poster...

Well, the only problem with that is that his comment was at least
tangentially useful - it describes the current state of affairs. HTML
5 is not currently a reliable substitute for Flash in many ways, and
won't be for some time to come. I just read today that MS is dragging
their feet on adding CANVAS to IE 9!

http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/05/microsoft_ie9_and_canvasn/

And without that standard in place, we can't realistically expect
Adobe to build toolsets to let Flash developers output to non-Flash
formats, as some people have suggested. So, the original poster is on
her own, and has to rewrite the functionality from scratch.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?

2010-05-05 Thread Brian Kotek

Also, given that most other phone/tablet platforms WILL be supporting Flash,
I'd say Dawn might go back to management and point out they're talking about
rebuilding something JUST because the iPad won't support Flash. It may be
possible to convince them that this might be a knee-jerk reaction.

Brian


On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


  It was a dig at Brad's attempt to derail the discussion into the tired
  old Adobe vs Apple debate that everyone seems to enjoy having at the
  moment. In other words, it was intended to highlight that Brad's
  sarcastic comment wasn't useful to the original poster...

 Well, the only problem with that is that his comment was at least
 tangentially useful - it describes the current state of affairs. HTML
 5 is not currently a reliable substitute for Flash in many ways, and
 won't be for some time to come. I just read today that MS is dragging
 their feet on adding CANVAS to IE 9!


 http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/05/microsoft_ie9_and_canvasn/

 And without that standard in place, we can't realistically expect
 Adobe to build toolsets to let Flash developers output to non-Flash
 formats, as some people have suggested. So, the original poster is on
 her own, and has to rewrite the functionality from scratch.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/

 Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
 GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
 instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.

 

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Re: Web Programming Cert

2010-05-05 Thread Carey Duryea

I'm thinking that this might be a good deal

http://www.oreillyschool.com/certificates/web-programming.php

i'm thinking you should go to the library first before you spend hundreds of 
dollars and check out any number of php books,  PHP 6 Fast and Easy Web 
Development  is one . this book you can buy used on amazon for 20 bucks, i've 
had it check out at the local library for sixteen consecutive weeks.  no one 
puts a hold on the book, i keep it for a while.  yours your public library 
first! and you know if the library doesn't have the book  you can sugguest them 
to get it, they will buy it and you cah check it out.  

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Re: Web Programming Cert

2010-05-05 Thread Carey Duryea

I'm thinking that this might be a good deal

http://www.oreillyschool.com/certificates/web-programming.php

you don't have to be spoon feed this stuff for enormous amounts of money 

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Re: Web Programming Cert

2010-05-05 Thread Carey Duryea

I'm thinking that this might be a good deal

http://www.oreillyschool.com/certificates/web-programming.php

i'm thinking you should go to the library first before you spend hundreds of 
dollars and check out any number of php books,  PHP 6 Fast and Easy Web 
Development  is one . this book you can buy used on amazon for 20 bucks, i've 
had it check out at the local library for sixteen consecutive weeks.  no one 
puts a hold on the book, i keep it for a while.  yours your public library 
first! and you know if the library doesn't have the book  you can sugguest them 
to get it, they will buy it and you cah check it out.  

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Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?

2010-05-05 Thread Judah McAuley

I wouldn't be quite so quick on the pronouncement that most of tablet
platforms will support Flash, at least in the short term. Besides the
iPad, there isn't a shipping tablet that has any serious market
penetration. Archos has one out there, but it doesn't run Flash. Dell
is planning a weirdly form factored 7-inch based on Android, but there
is no release date. HP was planning the Slate to ship with Win 7, but
since their acquisition of Palm and their WebOS, the Slate has
supposedly been shelved.  Microsoft officially abandoned their tablet
offering. There have been some rumors about Google offering one, ala
the Nexus One, with theories about it running either Android or Chrome
OS, but there are no announcements.

At this point, Flash basically doesn't run on any shipping or
announced tablet in the same form factor as the iPad (HP and Lenova
call some of their laptops tablets, but they all have keyboards and
are heavier and much more expensive than the iPad). We'll probably see
something based on the Android platform as it ramps up Flash 10.1
support, but it isn't clear who will offer it. Most likely Dell. There
are not any Win 7-based tablets hitting the market soon afaik.

With HP reportedly cancelling their Slate/Win7 project, it looks like
Apple has the tablet market locked up for at least the next 6 months.
We'll see what happens after that, but we saw what happened when Apple
got the lead in the portable mp3 player market. Zune still sells but
the iPod still rules the roost years later.

Judah

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Brian Kotek brian...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, given that most other phone/tablet platforms WILL be supporting Flash,
 I'd say Dawn might go back to management and point out they're talking about
 rebuilding something JUST because the iPad won't support Flash. It may be
 possible to convince them that this might be a knee-jerk reaction.

 Brian


 On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


  It was a dig at Brad's attempt to derail the discussion into the tired
  old Adobe vs Apple debate that everyone seems to enjoy having at the
  moment. In other words, it was intended to highlight that Brad's
  sarcastic comment wasn't useful to the original poster...

 Well, the only problem with that is that his comment was at least
 tangentially useful - it describes the current state of affairs. HTML
 5 is not currently a reliable substitute for Flash in many ways, and
 won't be for some time to come. I just read today that MS is dragging
 their feet on adding CANVAS to IE 9!


 http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/05/microsoft_ie9_and_canvasn/

 And without that standard in place, we can't realistically expect
 Adobe to build toolsets to let Flash developers output to non-Flash
 formats, as some people have suggested. So, the original poster is on
 her own, and has to rewrite the functionality from scratch.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/

 Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
 GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
 instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.



 

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RE: Web Programming Cert

2010-05-05 Thread Justin Scott

 i'm thinking you should go to the library first
 before you spend hundreds of dollars and check

I checked out some books at the library isn't nearly as attractive as
Earned Web Programming Certificate from The University of Illinois on your
resume.  Hitting the library may show some initiative, but employers need to
know you can get work done too.


-Justin



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query for experts?

2010-05-05 Thread Mike Little

hey guys, hopefully an easy one...

tblPricing
--
min_qty (INT)
price 

a product has the following rows...
5, $12.00
10, $11.55

the customer adds a quantity of 4 to their cart. how do i establish that the 
price should be $12.00?

existing query would be...

SELECT price
FROM tblPricing
WHERE product_min = cart.qty
ORDER BY product_min DESC
LIMIT 1;

doesn't work in this case.

mike 

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Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?

2010-05-05 Thread Brian Kotek

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:


 I wouldn't be quite so quick on the pronouncement that most of tablet
 platforms will support Flash, at least in the short term. Besides the
 iPad, there isn't a shipping tablet that has any serious market
 penetration. Archos has one out there, but it doesn't run Flash. Dell
 is planning a weirdly form factored 7-inch based on Android, but there
 is no release date. HP was planning the Slate to ship with Win 7, but
 since their acquisition of Palm and their WebOS, the Slate has
 supposedly been shelved.  Microsoft officially abandoned their tablet
 offering. There have been some rumors about Google offering one, ala
 the Nexus One, with theories about it running either Android or Chrome
 OS, but there are no announcements.

 At this point, Flash basically doesn't run on any shipping or
 announced tablet in the same form factor as the iPad (HP and Lenova
 call some of their laptops tablets, but they all have keyboards and
 are heavier and much more expensive than the iPad). We'll probably see
 something based on the Android platform as it ramps up Flash 10.1
 support, but it isn't clear who will offer it. Most likely Dell. There
 are not any Win 7-based tablets hitting the market soon afaik.


 With HP reportedly cancelling their Slate/Win7 project, it looks like
 Apple has the tablet market locked up for at least the next 6 months.
 We'll see what happens after that, but we saw what happened when Apple
 got the lead in the portable mp3 player market. Zune still sells but
 the iPod still rules the roost years later.


Exactly, the Android and Win7 tablets are what I'm talking about. And since
those are the only 2 other major tablet platforms that I've heard of, and
since those two platforms are going to be used by most of the
iPad competitors, I still feel fine saying most of the tablets will run
Flash and AIR.

http://www.nytimes.com/external/venturebeat/2010/05/05/05venturebeat-adobe-demonstrates-flash-and-air-on-android-42419.html

http://www.nytimes.com/external/venturebeat/2010/05/05/05venturebeat-adobe-demonstrates-flash-and-air-on-android-42419.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100505-723039.html?mod=WSJ_latestheadlines

They're slated to be available later this year. There are numerous phones
that already run Flash Lite and Flash 10.1 is also coming to mobile devices
later this year:

http://moconews.net/article/419-adobe-flash-10.1-coming-to-phones-in-first-half-250-million-by-2012/

Apple will indeed have a head start, but only of a few months as opposed to
the multi-year time spans it took for anyone to come close to the iPod or
the iPhone. The point is that this is coming soon, and it is going to run on
a huge number of devices.


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Re: query for experts?

2010-05-05 Thread Azadi Saryev

 something like this?

SELECT TOP 1 price
FROM tblPricing
WHERE min_qty  #somevalue#
ORDER BY (min_qty/#somevalue#)

Azadi

On 06/05/2010 08:11, Mike Little wrote:
 hey guys, hopefully an easy one...

 tblPricing
 --
 min_qty (INT)
 price 

 a product has the following rows...
 5, $12.00
 10, $11.55

 the customer adds a quantity of 4 to their cart. how do i establish that the 
 price should be $12.00?

 existing query would be...

 SELECT price
 FROM tblPricing
 WHERE product_min = cart.qty
 ORDER BY product_min DESC
 LIMIT 1;

 doesn't work in this case.

 mike 

 

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RE: query for experts?

2010-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth

use a dropdown for the quantity selection with your
min_qty values instead of letting the user input any number
they want...


-Original Message-
From: Mike Little [mailto:m...@nzsolutions.co.nz] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 8:12 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: query for experts?


hey guys, hopefully an easy one...

tblPricing
--
min_qty (INT)
price 

a product has the following rows...
5, $12.00
10, $11.55

the customer adds a quantity of 4 to their cart. how do i establish that the
price should be $12.00?

existing query would be...

SELECT price
FROM tblPricing
WHERE product_min = cart.qty
ORDER BY product_min DESC
LIMIT 1;

doesn't work in this case.

mike 



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RE: query for experts?

2010-05-05 Thread andy matthews

If the minimum quantity is 5 for an item, then you should consider not
letting them place only 4 in their cart. If you're still wanting to move in
that direction then a query like this should do the trick:

SELECT FLOOR(price * CEILING(cart.qty/ min_qty) ) AS price
FROM tblPricing
WHERE id = 123


-Original Message-
From: Mike Little [mailto:m...@nzsolutions.co.nz] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 7:12 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: query for experts?


hey guys, hopefully an easy one...

tblPricing
--
min_qty (INT)
price 

a product has the following rows...
5, $12.00
10, $11.55

the customer adds a quantity of 4 to their cart. how do i establish that the
price should be $12.00?

existing query would be...

SELECT price
FROM tblPricing
WHERE product_min = cart.qty
ORDER BY product_min DESC
LIMIT 1;

doesn't work in this case.

mike 



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Re: query for experts?

2010-05-05 Thread Maureen

If your field name is min_qty why are you using product_min in your query?

SELECT price
FROM tblPricing
WHERE min_qty = cart.qty
ORDER BY min_qty DESC
LIMIT 1;

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Mike Little m...@nzsolutions.co.nz wrote:

 hey guys, hopefully an easy one...

 tblPricing
 --
 min_qty (INT)
 price

 a product has the following rows...
 5, $12.00
 10, $11.55

 the customer adds a quantity of 4 to their cart. how do i establish that the 
 price should be $12.00?

 existing query would be...

 SELECT price
 FROM tblPricing
 WHERE product_min = cart.qty
 ORDER BY product_min DESC
 LIMIT 1;

 doesn't work in this case.

 mike

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Re: Adobe ColdFusion Anthology released

2010-05-05 Thread David McGuigan

Oops.

Chapter 2 lists onApplicationStart as onApplicationStar ( unless that's a
new application event in CF9 that's not in the docs ), but more importantly
has an arrow pointing from Requested template missing to onError, when
in reality onMissingTemplate is what happens first. Which isn't listed in
the diagram at all.

And really, there should be a big set of brackets wrapping all of the
appropriate events off to the left side pointing to the onError event, I
say.




On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Judith Dinowitz jdino...@houseoffusion.com
 wrote:


 I also would have liked to include an article on CFWheels and one on
 ColdBox, but as Sean noted, we didn't have any articles on those topics.
 Right now I'm talking to one of our authors about doing a CFWheels article,
 and I'd welcome a ColdBox article as well. If you would like to write one,
 just send an email to me (http://www.fusionauthority.com/contact.cfm).
 Maybe we can get those frameworks into future editions.

 Thanks so much for all of the good wishes. I'm proud of the book (and happy
 to see it out there.) A lot of people -- authors, technical reviewers and
 editors -- put a lot of effort into it across the board, and we thank them
 all in the acknowledgments and author's pages in the book itself (which you
 can read in the Amazon.com link).

 Judith

  On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 6:29 PM, David McGuigan davidmcgui...@gmail.
  com wrote:
   I was really disappointed to see that the two frameworks with the
  most momentum ( impression ) and that I'm most excited to learn about
  aren't covered in the book ( ColdBox and CFWheels ), while a few less
  relevant topics are ( Reactor, CFPresentation, CFEclipse ).
 
  I guess no one has written articles on those frameworks for the
  Fusion
  Authority folks.
 
  I remember years ago that some people complained that macromedia.com
  had no Fusebox content back in the day when that was your only
  choice for CFML frameworks. We put out a big request for Fusebox
  articles everywhere we could and got...
 
  Just one solitary article (from Kay Smoljak).
 
  So the macromedia.com representation of Fusebox was due to the
  Fusebox
  community not actually providing any.
 
  If the ColdBox and cfWheels folks want their frameworks to be
  represented, they need to write articles :)
  --
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Re: Web Programming Cert

2010-05-05 Thread Carey Duryea

I'm thinking that this might be a good deal

http://www.oreillyschool.com/certificates/web-programming.php


Good point!!!  i guess i was looking at it from my perspective i only 
develop for my own entrepreneurial endeavors.  i have never been a guy of 
creditials though cause of always been a busniness owner, i was looking into 
getting a coldfusion cert. through a adobe certified company.  i forget what 
the name of it was though.  i was looking for classes in php and coldfusion, 
and i pretty much called around and was trying to find the most interactive 
classes online i could find and to be honest with tyou the fact that this place 
has a sandbox to actively work with the concepts you learn is a really big 
selling point. i looked at the site pretty thoughly. do you know anything about 
coldfusion certs?

links that relate 
https://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/html/index.cfm?event=displayProductcategoryOID=1579608store=OLS-US#

http://adobe.knowledge.elementk.com/catalog/Syllabus.jsp?productId=85139typeId=1
http://adobe.knowledge.elementk.com/catalog/Syllabus.jsp?productId=4800typeId=1
 

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Re: query for experts?

2010-05-05 Thread Mike Little

azadi - your query works for a qty of 4 but not anything between 5 and 10.
rick - not possible as qty's range massively per product type
andy - cannot get this query to work, outputs wrong price
maureen - was just an example 

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RE: query for experts?

2010-05-05 Thread andy matthews

You didn't mention which DB system you're using. The functions might be
different from DB to DB. I used SQL Server as my base so YMMV.

Using CF code as an example you should get multiples of the price for each
grouping less than or equal to the minimum quantity:

cfset cart = 4
cfset min = 5
cfset price = 12

cfoutput
#Fix(price * CEILING(cart/ min) )#
/cfoutput

So for 1-5, you'd have 1 * 12, for 6-10 you'd have 2 * 12, 11-15 you'd have
3 * 12, etc.

That should carry over to the query as well.


-Original Message-
From: Mike Little [mailto:m...@nzsolutions.co.nz] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 9:36 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: query for experts?


azadi - your query works for a qty of 4 but not anything between 5 and 10.
rick - not possible as qty's range massively per product type
andy - cannot get this query to work, outputs wrong price
maureen - was just an example 



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RE: query for experts?

2010-05-05 Thread William Seiter

I think I am a bit confused as to what your scenario is...

Is 5 the minimum a customer can purchase?

If they order 5 or more, is $12 their price, or if they order 1-5 it is $12?

If the pricing is for 1-5 = $12 each, then I think you can adjust your table
a little to get the proper results.
Add a row, 1, 12.00
Change 5, 12 to 6, 11.55
And so on.  Then you can use your example query to pull the correct data.  

Also, the 'price' should be a number (without the $ sign).  It will make it
easier to use the number for multiplying with later.

William

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-Original Message-
From: Mike Little [mailto:m...@nzsolutions.co.nz] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 5:12 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: query for experts?


hey guys, hopefully an easy one...

tblPricing
--
min_qty (INT)
price 

a product has the following rows...
5, $12.00
10, $11.55

the customer adds a quantity of 4 to their cart. how do i establish that the
price should be $12.00?

existing query would be...

SELECT price
FROM tblPricing
WHERE product_min = cart.qty
ORDER BY product_min DESC
LIMIT 1;

doesn't work in this case.

mike 



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RE: query for experts?

2010-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth

I realize that my suggestion might not solve your problem,
but having massive quantity ranges would seem to make solving
the issue on the server-side even more difficult.

By using your required quantities for the amount-to-order dropdown,
you would force a buyer to order the quantities you require, and,
therefore, determining price would be simple.

They really don't get a break for buying 4 since the minimum is 5.

But I understand the requirements for the setup or client may
require a query solution.

Rick

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Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 10:36 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: query for experts?


azadi - your query works for a qty of 4 but not anything between 5 and 10.
rick - not possible as qty's range massively per product type
andy - cannot get this query to work, outputs wrong price
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Re: query for experts?

2010-05-05 Thread Azadi Saryev

 On 06/05/2010 10:36, Mike Little wrote:
 azadi - your query works for a qty of 4 but not anything between 5 and 10

that's strange...
this works fine for me in MySQL:
SELECT price
FROM ...
WHERE min_qty = 8
ORDER BY (min_qty/8)
LIMIT 1

the only difference to MS SQL is using TOP 1 instead of LIMIT 1...

what is the data types of your min_qty column? could it be some type
conversion happening in (min_qty/X) part?
are you sure you changed #somevalue# to correct value in both instances
in the query when you tested?

Azadi

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Re: query for experts?

2010-05-05 Thread Azadi Saryev

 just to clarify:
i am assuming your price is applicable to min_qty or less, i.e.
5 : $12.00 = price is $12 for 5 or less items
10 : $11.55 = price is $11.55 for 6-10 items

am i wrong in my assumption? (maybe that's why you said my query did not
work...)

Azadi

On 06/05/2010 11:29, Azadi Saryev wrote:
  On 06/05/2010 10:36, Mike Little wrote:
 azadi - your query works for a qty of 4 but not anything between 5 and 10
 that's strange...
 this works fine for me in MySQL:
 SELECT price
 FROM ...
 WHERE min_qty = 8
 ORDER BY (min_qty/8)
 LIMIT 1

 the only difference to MS SQL is using TOP 1 instead of LIMIT 1...

 what is the data types of your min_qty column? could it be some type
 conversion happening in (min_qty/X) part?
 are you sure you changed #somevalue# to correct value in both instances
 in the query when you tested?

 Azadi

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Re: query for experts?

2010-05-05 Thread Mike Little

william that would be ideal. my problem is that the client inputs their own 
price breaks. most of their products require a minimum greater than 1.

azadi, i have done the following and it still outputs some odd results (using a 
cart qty of 4 to test)...

SELECT FLOOR(product_price * CEILING(4 / product_min)) AS price
FROM tblPricing
WHERE 1=1

(i am using mySQL by the way) 

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Re: query for experts?

2010-05-05 Thread Azadi Saryev

 hmm... just tested my query in slq 2005 express and sure enough it did
not work!

this seems to do the trick, though (include min_qty column in ORDER BY
clause):

SELECT TOP 1 min_qty, price
FROM ...
WHERE min_qty = 8
ORDER BY min_qty, (min_qty/8) ASC

Azadi

On 06/05/2010 10:36, Mike Little wrote:
 azadi - your query works for a qty of 4 but not anything between 5 and 10.
 rick - not possible as qty's range massively per product type
 andy - cannot get this query to work, outputs wrong price
 maureen - was just an example 

 

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Re: query for experts?

2010-05-05 Thread Azadi Saryev

 try this (reposted from my other answer, just in case you missed it):

SELECT TOP 1 product_min, product_price
FROM tblPricing
WHERE product_min = 8
ORDER BY product_min, (product_min/8)

Azadi



On 06/05/2010 11:49, Mike Little wrote:
 william that would be ideal. my problem is that the client inputs their own 
 price breaks. most of their products require a minimum greater than 1.

 azadi, i have done the following and it still outputs some odd results (using 
 a cart qty of 4 to test)...

 SELECT FLOOR(product_price * CEILING(4 / product_min)) AS price
 FROM tblPricing
 WHERE 1=1

 (i am using mySQL by the way) 

 

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Re: Web Programming Cert

2010-05-05 Thread Sean Corfield

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Justin Scott
jscott-li...@gravityfree.com wrote:
 I checked out some books at the library isn't nearly as attractive as
 Earned Web Programming Certificate from The University of Illinois on your
 resume.  Hitting the library may show some initiative, but employers need to
 know you can get work done too.

A certificate doesn't say zip about whether you can get work done. The
courses might be useful for the O.P. but they don't tell an employer
anything so the certificate itself is worthless, IMO.

I looked over the syllabus and it's very basic stuff. However, I'd
certainly love every CFer to take the Unix / Apache portions of these
O'Reilly courses!
-- 
Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/
An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/

If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive.
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Re: Web Programming Cert

2010-05-05 Thread Carey Duryea

i'm reading about apache right now , trying to figure out all this load 
balancing stuff.  i really do wish though that there were more interactive 
lessons out there, seems like teaching in general has not caught up with the 
capability that these new technologies actually can produce!  interactive, 
sandbox, self paced, many different learning style options, real time examples. 
  i don't know how many times i read about a new concept and i never hear how 
the concept is used in real life, practicality!  practical experience give me! 

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Re: query for experts?

2010-05-05 Thread Mike Little

azadi (thanks for everyones help by the way)...

SELECT pricing.*
FROM pricing PCP
WHERE product_min = 6
ORDER BY product_min, (product_min/6)
LIMIT 1;

does not work as it outputs the price for where a min qty of 10 applies. it 
should output the price where the min is 5.

i am thinking of going williams way where i put in an initial row with a min 
qty of 1 so i can capture 1-5, 6-10, 10+ etc. 

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Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?

2010-05-05 Thread Arsalan Tariq Keen

(Y) Great!!
:)



Regards,
Arsalan

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From: Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 2:25 AM
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?


 Hi, Mark...

 Have you looked into using jQuery or another javascript library
 for something like this?  I don't think it would be very difficult
 to code in jQuery.

 I've got a real estate agent I'm building a site for and she wants
 the typical Flash-based virtual tours, but I'm going to try to emulate
 the Flash with jQuery.  That will involve using photos like in the
 top of Utah.gov at the very least.

 Rick


 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 4:04 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: RE: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?


 Dawn,

 We have a project like this pending. I would be interested in anything
 resources you uncover - thanks :)

 Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
 (402) 408-3733 ext 105
 www.cfwebtools.com
 www.coldfusionmuse.com
 www.necfug.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Dawn Sekel [mailto:dawnt...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 2:23 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?


 I have looked into HTML5 -- but I can't find any references for how you
 would do things like gotoAndPlay() like you can in Flash.  The site I have
 been developing has very similar banner to that of www.UTAH.gov.  When you
 click the menu at the top, a text menu overlays the image.  And when you
 point at things in the banner, hints display.  Our users are mostly Law
 Enforcement and many use iPhones.  A lot of them are also Apple users for
 some reason.  I found some code that I'm testing to detect the iPad on the
 site that seems to work well.  Currently if you go to my beta site with 
 the
 iPhone it shows everything but the .swf files.  If you go to it with the
 iPAD - it just says ERROR and doesn't display anything.





 

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RE: query for experts?

2010-05-05 Thread William Seiter

Is this just a list of price breaks where the single item price is in a
different table?


--
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-Original Message-
From: Mike Little [mailto:m...@nzsolutions.co.nz] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 8:49 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: query for experts?


william that would be ideal. my problem is that the client inputs their own
price breaks. most of their products require a minimum greater than 1.

azadi, i have done the following and it still outputs some odd results
(using a cart qty of 4 to test)...

SELECT FLOOR(product_price * CEILING(4 / product_min)) AS price
FROM tblPricing
WHERE 1=1

(i am using mySQL by the way) 



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Re: Web Programming Cert

2010-05-05 Thread denstar

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Sean Corfield wrote:
...
 I looked over the syllabus and it's very basic stuff. However, I'd
 certainly love every CFer to take the Unix / Apache portions of these
 O'Reilly courses!

Hey, I'll teach that for $50 bucks less!

I could probably print up a nice certificate, and perhaps come up with
a respectable sounding place of issue, too.

:)p

I am *so* kidding.  I think the underselling I do quite often, is
hurtful to the profession.  It's hard to value stuff that's easy to
do tho.

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Re: Web Programming Cert

2010-05-05 Thread Carey Duryea

i was going to say, One really good way to show a potiential employer your 
skill and your ability to get things done, is contribute to open source 
projects.  if you contribute things to open source that show your skills 
everyone appreciates you!  and it will show an employer that you are sort of 
active no matter if your on the clock or off it, shows ambition and drive for 
sure.  i hire developers and that would be a big hint for me.  CONTRIBUTE! you 
know how bad we need it in the coldfusion community.  Where is our Drupal, 
Where is our Joomla, Our Oscommerce, Our Wordpress!!!  i don't wanna be the one 
that sits around and argues what language is better, i would like to 
contribute.  i would love to start a project that would compete with these 
Giant php communites! 

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Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?

2010-05-05 Thread Arsalan Tariq Keen

Sorry... wrong email!

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Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:28 AM
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?


 (Y) Great!!
 :)



 Regards,
 Arsalan

 --
 From: Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 2:25 AM
 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Subject: RE: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?


 Hi, Mark...

 Have you looked into using jQuery or another javascript library
 for something like this?  I don't think it would be very difficult
 to code in jQuery.

 I've got a real estate agent I'm building a site for and she wants
 the typical Flash-based virtual tours, but I'm going to try to emulate
 the Flash with jQuery.  That will involve using photos like in the
 top of Utah.gov at the very least.

 Rick


 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 4:04 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: RE: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?


 Dawn,

 We have a project like this pending. I would be interested in anything
 resources you uncover - thanks :)

 Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
 (402) 408-3733 ext 105
 www.cfwebtools.com
 www.coldfusionmuse.com
 www.necfug.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Dawn Sekel [mailto:dawnt...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 2:23 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?


 I have looked into HTML5 -- but I can't find any references for how you
 would do things like gotoAndPlay() like you can in Flash.  The site I 
 have
 been developing has very similar banner to that of www.UTAH.gov.  When 
 you
 click the menu at the top, a text menu overlays the image.  And when you
 point at things in the banner, hints display.  Our users are mostly Law
 Enforcement and many use iPhones.  A lot of them are also Apple users for
 some reason.  I found some code that I'm testing to detect the iPad on 
 the
 site that seems to work well.  Currently if you go to my beta site with
 the
 iPhone it shows everything but the .swf files.  If you go to it with the
 iPAD - it just says ERROR and doesn't display anything.







 

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Re: Help With CF8 Regular Expressions

2010-05-05 Thread denstar

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:46 PM, James Holmes wrote:

 I hope you have your flameproof suit handy :-P

Ah, the cleansing fire of a good library battle.  :)

It's hot in here.  Normally I sleep in this thing, but if nobody's
interested, the suit is going on the hook.

:Den

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Re: Web Programming Cert

2010-05-05 Thread denstar

If you have the venture capital, I have the Chutzpah.  :)

Or, to quote a totally wicked and way underrated 80's flick:

If you bring the dip, I'll bring the chips.

Seriously tho, I hear you.  Let's get competitive, just for kicks.

:Den

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Woody Wilkins: Yes. A double.
Turkish waiter: [suprised] A double? Nobody orders the double, sir!
Woody Wilkins: Okay. Make it a triple.

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Carey  Duryea wrote:

 i was going to say, One really good way to show a potiential employer your 
 skill and your ability to get things done, is contribute to open source 
 projects.  if you contribute things to open source that show your skills 
 everyone appreciates you!  and it will show an employer that you are sort of 
 active no matter if your on the clock or off it, shows ambition and drive for 
 sure.  i hire developers and that would be a big hint for me.  CONTRIBUTE! 
 you know how bad we need it in the coldfusion community.  Where is our 
 Drupal, Where is our Joomla, Our Oscommerce, Our Wordpress!!!  i don't wanna 
 be the one that sits around and argues what language is better, i would like 
 to contribute.  i would love to start a project that would compete with these 
 Giant php communites!

 

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Re: query for experts?

2010-05-05 Thread Azadi Saryev

 ah, so your product_min represents the lower min level of quantity...

then you can do this:

1) add a row for product_min = 1 to your table, so that you have
absolute min level and price for it defined (even if it is the same
price as min level 5, you still have to add this row or the query will
not return any data for quantities  5; unless, of course, you do not
allow buying in quantities  5...)

2) change the query to this:
[MySQL syntax]
SELECT *
FROM pricing
WHERE priduct_min = 6
ORDER BY product_min DESC, (product_min/6) DESC
LIMIT 1

Azadi

On 06/05/2010 12:18, Mike Little wrote:
 azadi (thanks for everyones help by the way)...

 SELECT pricing.*
 FROM pricing PCP
 WHERE product_min = 6
 ORDER BY product_min, (product_min/6)
 LIMIT 1;

 does not work as it outputs the price for where a min qty of 10 applies. it 
 should output the price where the min is 5.

 i am thinking of going williams way where i put in an initial row with a min 
 qty of 1 so i can capture 1-5, 6-10, 10+ etc. 

 

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Re: Web Programming Cert

2010-05-05 Thread Carey Duryea

 If you have the venture capital, I have the Chutzpah.  :)
 
 Or, to quote a totally wicked and way underrated 80's flick:
 
 If you bring the dip, I'll bring the chips.
 
 Seriously tho, I hear you.  Let's get competitive, just for kicks.
 
 :Den

Den,
   how come everyone in the coldfusion community is Jewish? haha my best friend 
and business partner is part of the tribe.  ya i've thought alot about this 
actually, thought about what framework, how to integrate alot of other already 
present projects to arrouse a few others in the community, aka blog.cfc , ray, 
chris, mike etc etc  i just know that alot of times one of the determining 
factors is coldfusion like .net developers by nature have their own box of 
goodies , where as php throw everything into a community box. Where CFers claim 
to get paid for there work, and php work ends up all in india,  so i've heard 
the claim.  but my point is i have plenty of indian friends that are CFers.  I 
do have to say that drupals sort of extensible content types, and base core 
functionality are definitly something to target.  lets face it, there are some 
unique functionalities out there, but there are some very core functionalities  
forums,blogs,social profiles,  that all should all fit directly into a cf 
community.  that way the extensiblity of these core functionalities instead of 
from stratch starts, or goodie box starts. i'm all about universal 
intelligence, not about proprietory knowledge.  i know poliferating a community 
with intellegence will inter  make my life fruitful.  i'm so down!

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Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?

2010-05-05 Thread Judah McAuley

Yes, Flash is running on Android and I think that is an excellent
thing. My point was that no vendor of any note has set a release date
for a tablet running Android or Win7. Microsoft has canceled the
Courier project. HP has reportedly canceled Slate. Dell has reportedly
got a 7-inch tablet (which is an odd size) that will run Android but
no announced release date. Google devices are pure speculation at this
point.

Flash is finding a home on the Android handset market and that is
awesome. There are some HTC handsets and I'm sure more will arrive.
Win 7 phone isn't due out until the end of the year and it isn't clear
that Flash will run on it, especially since MS has made the decision
to go back to an iphone 2-like OS (like removing multitasking). That
means that Flash will make some inroads in the smart phone market with
Android, which is great since I like Android.

I'm not sure you can make any sort of reasonable claims about the
tablet market though. The plain truth is that there is no pipeline of
tablets from respected vendors that will run Flash. If HP redesigns
the Slate to run WebOS (does that run Flash? I don't think it does but
I'm not sure), who is going to challenge Apple this year? Apple has
already sold 1 million iPads. They are releasing a new version of the
OS in June. I'm thinking that the market will see several million
iPads in production and probably on a second generation of hardware
before a serious competitor comes to market. That's a big hole to dig
out of.

I'd love to be wrong. I like Apple ok but I prefer Android and I
prefer the ecosystem around it. But as of today, we're working on a
business app for the iPad because we can't wait a year for something
else to get announced, get out and get stable. I wish we could use
Flex and install our own app on Android devices we sell but we're
stuck with Objective-C and Apple's app distribution (which irritates
me to no end) because that's what the market is.

Cheers,
Judah

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Brian Kotek brian...@gmail.com wrote:

 Exactly, the Android and Win7 tablets are what I'm talking about. And since
 those are the only 2 other major tablet platforms that I've heard of, and
 since those two platforms are going to be used by most of the
 iPad competitors, I still feel fine saying most of the tablets will run
 Flash and AIR.

 http://www.nytimes.com/external/venturebeat/2010/05/05/05venturebeat-adobe-demonstrates-flash-and-air-on-android-42419.html

 http://www.nytimes.com/external/venturebeat/2010/05/05/05venturebeat-adobe-demonstrates-flash-and-air-on-android-42419.html
 http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100505-723039.html?mod=WSJ_latestheadlines

 They're slated to be available later this year. There are numerous phones
 that already run Flash Lite and Flash 10.1 is also coming to mobile devices
 later this year:

 http://moconews.net/article/419-adobe-flash-10.1-coming-to-phones-in-first-half-250-million-by-2012/

 Apple will indeed have a head start, but only of a few months as opposed to
 the multi-year time spans it took for anyone to come close to the iPod or
 the iPhone. The point is that this is coming soon, and it is going to run on
 a huge number of devices.

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Re: Web Programming Cert

2010-05-05 Thread Sean Corfield

Yup, I'll second that. If you contribute to an open source project,
you have a traceable footprint on the 'net and your capabilities can
be examined. When I'm an employer interviewing people, I Google them
to see what they've done publicly...

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Carey  Duryea ca...@keepingitgreen.net wrote:
 i was going to say, One really good way to show a potiential employer your 
 skill and your ability to get things done, is contribute to open source 
 projects.

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Re: Help With CF8 Regular Expressions

2010-05-05 Thread Charlie Griefer

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:34 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:46 PM, James Holmes wrote:
 
  I hope you have your flameproof suit handy :-P

 Ah, the cleansing fire of a good library battle.  :)

 It's hot in here.  Normally I sleep in this thing, but if nobody's
 interested, the suit is going on the hook.



Oh dear God please let him be wearing something under that suit...

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I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my
wife. And I wish you my kind of success.


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Re: Substitute/conversion for Flash Interactive Menus for iPad?

2010-05-05 Thread Sean Corfield

Good to see a voice of reason in this debate. Thanx Judah!

Macromedia was talking about the mobile market for years, Adobe has
talked about the mobile market for a few years too. We might finally
be seeing a deliverable with Flash Player 10.1 (and that's great). The
reality is that a lot of the mobile / tablet market thinks Flash is
irrelevant at this point. The gamble is whether Adobe can make Flash
relevant in this market or whether Apple's head start will making it a
losing strategy.

It's a very heated debate - and people on both sides are very
passionate about it, hoping their side wins. I have sympathies with
both parties. Frankly tho', I'm tired of it all and I wish everyone
would just shut up, sit down and wait and see how this pans out :)

Sean

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:

 Yes, Flash is running on Android and I think that is an excellent
 thing. My point was that no vendor of any note has set a release date
 for a tablet running Android or Win7. Microsoft has canceled the
 Courier project. HP has reportedly canceled Slate. Dell has reportedly
 got a 7-inch tablet (which is an odd size) that will run Android but
 no announced release date. Google devices are pure speculation at this
 point.

 Flash is finding a home on the Android handset market and that is
 awesome. There are some HTC handsets and I'm sure more will arrive.
 Win 7 phone isn't due out until the end of the year and it isn't clear
 that Flash will run on it, especially since MS has made the decision
 to go back to an iphone 2-like OS (like removing multitasking). That
 means that Flash will make some inroads in the smart phone market with
 Android, which is great since I like Android.

 I'm not sure you can make any sort of reasonable claims about the
 tablet market though. The plain truth is that there is no pipeline of
 tablets from respected vendors that will run Flash. If HP redesigns
 the Slate to run WebOS (does that run Flash? I don't think it does but
 I'm not sure), who is going to challenge Apple this year? Apple has
 already sold 1 million iPads. They are releasing a new version of the
 OS in June. I'm thinking that the market will see several million
 iPads in production and probably on a second generation of hardware
 before a serious competitor comes to market. That's a big hole to dig
 out of.

 I'd love to be wrong. I like Apple ok but I prefer Android and I
 prefer the ecosystem around it. But as of today, we're working on a
 business app for the iPad because we can't wait a year for something
 else to get announced, get out and get stable. I wish we could use
 Flex and install our own app on Android devices we sell but we're
 stuck with Objective-C and Apple's app distribution (which irritates
 me to no end) because that's what the market is.

 Cheers,
 Judah

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Re: Web Programming Cert

2010-05-05 Thread Carey Duryea

 Yup, I'll second that. If you contribute to an open source project,
 you have a traceable footprint on the 'net and your capabilities can
 be examined. When I'm an employer interviewing people, I Google them
 to see what they've done publicly...
 
 On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Carey  Duryea ca...@keepingitgreen.
 net wrote:
  i was going to say, One really good way to show a potiential 
 employer your skill and your ability to get things done, is contribute 
 to open source projects.


i dont' know what we are talking about funding ,  i know we need like 
subversion hosting, bugzilla hosting, or some version control , and task 
tracking.  i would be down to pay for subversion hosting, and for dev 
enviornment, hosting, dedicated , vps whatever.  

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