Re: CF9 Developer Edition - IP Addresses
On Wednesday 16 Jun 2010 19:35:54 you wrote: The new wording is, for each license that you *buy*, you can use that license for: * One production environment * One staging environment * One test environment Based on http://www.terrenceryan.com/blog/post.cfm/coldfusion-9-testing- staging-and-development-changes-to-eula although section 3.2 of the EULA says what you said, Terrence says in the comments purchase of a production license should enable as many backend systems that you want, as long as they are not full production, ... The EULA might be read the other way, but our intention was what I said. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to continuously syndicate meta-services as part of the IT team of the year 2010, '09 and '08 This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word partner to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.co ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334672 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Pathing Problem
Our images reside on a separate drive e:/images. Our website is on c:\inetpub\wwwroot. How do I show the images on the e drive? Adding a virtual directory images in IIS and having img src in our code point to e:\images doesn't seem to work. Thanks in advance. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334673 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Pathing Problem
How does it not seem to work? Do you have the correct permissions set on e:\images? The user IIS is using for web requests needs to at least have read access on the images. Perhaps that's your problem. Depending on how you have IIS set up, and what version of Windows you're running, this user might be called something like iusr. Also, is e:\ a local drive or a network drive? It's been a while since I tried, but IIRC you might have problems in IIS mapping a virtual directory to a network drive. - Andrew. On 2010-06-21, at 09:13, Richard Steele wrote: Our images reside on a separate drive e:/images. Our website is on c:\inetpub\wwwroot. How do I show the images on the e drive? Adding a virtual directory images in IIS and having img src in our code point to e:\images doesn't seem to work. Thanks in advance. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334674 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Pathing Problem
Make sure that the user that the web server is running has access to the E drive. If you remote into the box and you have access to it doesn't mean that the user running the server has access to it. Paul -Original Message- From: Richard Steele [mailto:r...@photoeye.com] Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 9:14 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Pathing Problem Our images reside on a separate drive e:/images. Our website is on c:\inetpub\wwwroot. How do I show the images on the e drive? Adding a virtual directory images in IIS and having img src in our code point to e:\images doesn't seem to work. Thanks in advance. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334675 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF on IIS and 405 error
Are you using Windows XP or 2000 as the webserver? If so, then this applies. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216493 Thanks Bobby, Just tried that, same result. Cheers, Kris ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334676 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Securing an IIS7 development server
You need to add in Basic and/or Integrated Windows Auth as modules for IIS 7 in Windows Features (Vista/Win7) or Server Manager (WS2008). Ok, Anonymous authentication has been disabled. However there is no Basic or Windows authentication in the Authentication window. Instead there is: Anonymous ASP.net Impersonation Forms authentication Forms authentication is expecting a login.aspx file that is not anywhere on the server. Please let me know what I'm missing here. Thanks! Right click on the website in IIS, select properties and click the Directory Security tab. Click Edit under Authentication and access control. In IIS7 it's the same principle, but in a slightly different place. Select the site (or server) to get the options in the main window. Open the Authentication icon. Select Anonymous and disable it, then enable either Basic or Windows authentication depending on how you plan to log in. -Justin Scott ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334677 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Pathing Problem
You might also need to use UNC pathing if it's a network drive. \\computer-name\images Instead of E:\Images andy -Original Message- From: Richard Steele [mailto:r...@photoeye.com] Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 8:14 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Pathing Problem Our images reside on a separate drive e:/images. Our website is on c:\inetpub\wwwroot. How do I show the images on the e drive? Adding a virtual directory images in IIS and having img src in our code point to e:\images doesn't seem to work. Thanks in advance. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334678 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Pathing Problem
1) Create a virtual directory in IIS that points to e:\images. Call it whatever you like, but for this case we will call it eImages. 2) Ensure that the identity that is running the application pool of the website/web application has read folder contents to the path e:\images. This is the Network Service account by default for IIS 6. 3) If you are using anonymous authentication, the identity of the anonymous user must also have read privileges to the e:\images location. This is usually IUSR_machinename 4) Finally, when referring to the images in your webpage, it is http://website.com/eImages/image.jpg;, or just /eImages/image.jpg. Make sure that the user that the web server is running has access to the E drive. If you remote into the box and you have access to it doesn't mean that the user running the server has access to it. Paul Our images reside on a separate drive e:/images. Our website is on c:\inetpub\wwwroot. How do I show the images on the e drive? Adding a virtual directory images in IIS and having img src in our code point to e:\images doesn't seem to work. Thanks in advance. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334679 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Gudies on how to create a Webservice and Security in Adobe ColdFusion 9? Please :)
Looking for some advice on which method is best for the following scenario... My clients 99% .NET guys. Myself about 50% now. I have been asked to maybe create a new web service in ColdFusion that allows other members of our team and our clients (none CF'ers) to integrate using .NET or any another language they feel fit. they don't have access to our servers so everything will be over HTTP(S) protocol. The service needs to allow them to do basic CRUD ON our own CF CMS and access our exchange calender currently done via CF also. again they are not on the same server or even in the same part of the world sometimes. as we have a lot invested in CF the webservice needs to be in CF So I want to know the best way forward in terms of a webservice, basic html posts? how would you open this up? what about security? how do I restrict others from acccess this as it needs to be open over https? I just need to be pointed in the right direction with this, learn and read a few books. I have integrated with many services but never created one of my own in CF. I have chosen to use the following ColdFusion 9 Enterprise running on IIS7 ColdBox M5 (as we love modules) exchange is accessed using cfexchnage tags this data needs to be returned as a service also. Thanks in advance for any comments and recommendations. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334680 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Gudies on how to create a Webservice and Security in Adobe ColdFusion 9? Please :)
On Monday 21 Jun 2010 15:33:30 Glyn Jackson wrote: So I want to know the best way forward in terms of a webservice, basic html posts? how would you open this up? If you make a CFC-based interface to it, these are automatically available as standard WSDL-based web services that should work OK with anything. what about security? how do I restrict others from acccess this as it needs to be open over https? The standard approach would be to have a login() method that returns a time- limited (and/or locked to IP address) token, and then each other method accepts and validates the token. ColdSpring's AOP can help here, see for instance http://www.rachaelandtom.info/content/slides-and-files-my-scotch-road-talk- sotr09 for a quick ready-to-run demo Don't forget things like http://www.rachaelandtom.info/content/protecting- coldfusion-applications-common-attacks though ! -- Tom Chiverton Helping to continuously develop guinine cutting-edge channels as part of the IT team of the year 2010, '09 and '08 This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word partner to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.co ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334681 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Gudies on how to create a Webservice and Security in Adobe ColdFusion 9? Please :)
To start, read this: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Developing/WSc3ff6d0ea77859461172e0811cbec22c24-78b7.html That gives you the basics of CF's inbuilt webservice support. Next, if you want to secure the services with a username/password, you can either make the username and password arguments of each method call or you can add a security layer like WS-Security to the web service. Either way, use SSL to keep things as secure as possible. If you do want to add WS-Security, WSS4CF (http://wss4cf.riaforge.org/) can help; it provides a way to check a digest password sent by your clients. Eventually I'll add support for taking in a whole WS-Security header and validating it by checking the TTL, storing the nonce during the TTL etc. -- WSS4CF - WS-Security framework for CF http://wss4cf.riaforge.org/ On 21 June 2010 22:33, Glyn Jackson glyn.jack...@newebia.co.uk wrote: Looking for some advice on which method is best for the following scenario... My clients 99% .NET guys. Myself about 50% now. I have been asked to maybe create a new web service in ColdFusion that allows other members of our team and our clients (none CF'ers) to integrate using .NET or any another language they feel fit. they don't have access to our servers so everything will be over HTTP(S) protocol. The service needs to allow them to do basic CRUD ON our own CF CMS and access our exchange calender currently done via CF also. again they are not on the same server or even in the same part of the world sometimes. as we have a lot invested in CF the webservice needs to be in CF So I want to know the best way forward in terms of a webservice, basic html posts? how would you open this up? what about security? how do I restrict others from acccess this as it needs to be open over https? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334682 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Gudies on how to create a Webservice and Security in Adobe ColdFusion 9? Please :)
So I want to know the best way forward in terms of a webservice, basic html posts? how would you open this up? what about security? how do I restrict others from acccess this as it needs to be open over https? I'm not sure what you're asking about with regard to basic html posts. As for security generally, you can handle security the same way you would with any other sort of web content. You can use web server authentication (Basic, or any other auth scheme supported by your prospective clients and by the actual web server) or you can force the client to acquire a token via a login service (instead of a login form). Basic authentication over HTTPS is adequate for most things.. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334683 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Gudies on how to create a Webservice and Security in Adobe ColdFusion 9? Please :)
Hi thanks, some very good advice on security :0. I just wanted to make sure I was not missing something here. will do more research but thanks. any other comments welcome ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334684 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF vs. ASP.Net
Again, I must make the argument why CF and not ASP.NET. I have looked around and found some useful information on CF vs. ASP.net (pro CF of course), but if anyone knows of any really good current links, please share :-) Thanks, Robert Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5215 (20100621) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334685 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF vs. ASP.Net
http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/pdfs/Adobe3112.pdf ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334686 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF vs. ASP.Net
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Won Lee won...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/pdfs/Adobe3112.pdf Well, there ya go, we got another 4 years to learn new languages... Adobe, way to set a bleak future for your own product! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334687 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF vs. ASP.Net
Again, I must make the argument why CF and not ASP.NET. Brand New - In Defense of CF: http://www.terrenceryan.com/blog/post.cfm/dear-coldfusion-skeptic --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334688 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF vs. ASP.Net
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Casey Dougall ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Won Lee won...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/pdfs/Adobe3112.pdf Well, there ya go, we got another 4 years to learn new languages... Adobe, way to set a bleak future for your own product! Report was written by Gartner which is not affiliated with Adobe AFAIK. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334689 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF vs. ASP.Net
Well, there ya go, we got another 4 years to learn new languages... Adobe, way to set a bleak future for your own product! Adobe didn't write that, Gartner did. And overall, it's a pretty positive whitepaper. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334690 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CFPOP attachments saved in subdirectories
Hi all, I've got an app that receives weekly analytics reports from Google Analytics and posts them to a site. The app is processing a couple dozen of these reports per week and the vast majority of them work just fine, but every week I have trouble with two. The reports are sent from Google Analytics as PDF attachments to a mail message. These messages are retrieved using CFPOP, and the attachments are saved to a temporary directory on my server. The attachments are then uploaded to a site (and some other stuff gets added to a database etc...). Once the PDFs are uploaded to the site, the attachments are deleted from my server. Every week, the PDF attachments for two of these reports end up saved in sub-directories and then my attempt to delete the original attachment fails (CFFILE action=delete). Anyone have any idea why CFPOP would be creating and saving these attachments into subdirectories? They're always named after the file -- so for example, if the report is called Analytics_www.example.com_20100614-20100620_(Weekly_Analytics_Report).pdf, the directory it's saved into is called Analytics_www.example.com/. It's CF 8 running on an Ubuntu install. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334691 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion?
I don't know if anyone from Adobe monitors this list, but I'm thinking it may be time to consider rebranding CF. Right now, the way it's branded (and named), the argument is Cold Fusion vs. .NET. That is a hard argument, but the argument of .NET vs J2EE or Adobe vs. Microsoft is a much easier argument. I'm thinking with some simple rebranding Adobe could really strengthen Cold Fusion. A simple name change (product branding update) could shift the entire argument. What if Cold Fusion was renamed to something more branded to the J2EE architecture on which is runs or which at least leveraged the Adobe name. Say something like: CF Java Java Fusion Fusion J2EE Adobe Web Fusion Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion? Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5216 (20100621) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334692 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Pathing Problem
You might also need to use UNC pathing if it's a network drive. \\computer-name\images Instead of E:\Images Hi Andy, that was it! Many thanks! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334693 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion?
I'd suggest taking this discussion to Adobe and their forums, rather than here, but I would also suggest that when you do so you might want to not have your suggestions include the words Java or J2EE since those are trademarks not owned by Adobe. Judah On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: I don't know if anyone from Adobe monitors this list, but I'm thinking it may be time to consider rebranding CF. Right now, the way it's branded (and named), the argument is Cold Fusion vs. .NET. That is a hard argument, but the argument of .NET vs J2EE or Adobe vs. Microsoft is a much easier argument. I'm thinking with some simple rebranding Adobe could really strengthen Cold Fusion. A simple name change (product branding update) could shift the entire argument. What if Cold Fusion was renamed to something more branded to the J2EE architecture on which is runs or which at least leveraged the Adobe name. Say something like: CF Java Java Fusion Fusion J2EE Adobe Web Fusion Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion? Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5216 (20100621) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334694 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion?
If Adobe truly wants CF to succeed they should change it's name to ASP.Net *rimshot* Honestly I don't think rebranding will do much for it. The greater community at large looks down on CF and always will no matter what you call it. I love CF but that's beside the point. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: I'd suggest taking this discussion to Adobe and their forums, rather than here, but I would also suggest that when you do so you might want to not have your suggestions include the words Java or J2EE since those are trademarks not owned by Adobe. Judah On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: I don't know if anyone from Adobe monitors this list, but I'm thinking it may be time to consider rebranding CF. Right now, the way it's branded (and named), the argument is Cold Fusion vs. .NET. That is a hard argument, but the argument of .NET vs J2EE or Adobe vs. Microsoft is a much easier argument. I'm thinking with some simple rebranding Adobe could really strengthen Cold Fusion. A simple name change (product branding update) could shift the entire argument. What if Cold Fusion was renamed to something more branded to the J2EE architecture on which is runs or which at least leveraged the Adobe name. Say something like: CF Java Java Fusion Fusion J2EE Adobe Web Fusion Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion? Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5216 (20100621) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334695 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion?
Right now, the way it's branded (and named), the argument is Cold Fusion vs. .NET. Why do you say that? That is a hard argument, Why do you say that? but the argument of .NET vs J2EE or Adobe vs. Microsoft is a much easier argument. Why do you say that? Honestly, I'm not trying to be difficult, but none of those statements really seem to be as self-evident as you seem to think. ColdFusion is not just a competitor with .NET; it's a competitor with pure J2EE solutions. But if you were going to cast this as CF vs .NET, there are plenty of compelling arguments you can make for choosing CF over .NET. (And a decent number for choosing .NET also.) The same is true for .NET vs J2EE. And finally, Adobe vs Microsoft isn't a great argument to make in favor of CF - plenty of people use MS server products. Where's Adobe's server OS? Their database platform? Their Sharepoint analog? etc, etc, etc. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334696 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion?
Right now, the way it's branded (and named), the argument is Cold Fusion vs. .NET.Why do you say that? Because the best links I got out of my previous email were at best bleak. The best link prompted an on-list response that we have 4 years to learn a new language. but the argument of .NET vs J2EE or Adobe vs. Microsoft is a much easier argument. Why do you say that? Because that's the argument Ben Forta makes in his blog: http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/node/46362 Comparing ASP.NET to ColdFusion is difficult. Actually, it's not just difficult, it's simply incorrect, and not an apples-to-apples comparison... In other words, deciding between ColdFusion and ASP.NET (and indeed, defending ColdFusion against ASP.NET) first requires a .NET versus J2EE discussion Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 3:36 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion? Right now, the way it's branded (and named), the argument is Cold Fusion vs. .NET. Why do you say that? That is a hard argument, Why do you say that? but the argument of .NET vs J2EE or Adobe vs. Microsoft is a much easier argument. Why do you say that? Honestly, I'm not trying to be difficult, but none of those statements really seem to be as self-evident as you seem to think. ColdFusion is not just a competitor with .NET; it's a competitor with pure J2EE solutions. But if you were going to cast this as CF vs .NET, there are plenty of compelling arguments you can make for choosing CF over .NET. (And a decent number for choosing .NET also.) The same is true for .NET vs J2EE. And finally, Adobe vs Microsoft isn't a great argument to make in favor of CF - plenty of people use MS server products. Where's Adobe's server OS? Their database platform? Their Sharepoint analog? etc, etc, etc. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334697 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion?
On 6/21/2010 12:44 PM, Robert Harrison wrote: Because the best links I got out of my previous email were at best bleak. The best link prompted an on-list response that we have 4 years to learn a new language. A) White papers like that can not project more then 5 years out. Heck even 5 years is probably as much voodoo as statistics. So this can't be read to say ColdFusion *will* be in decline in 5 years. Rather it is saying We don't know what will be going on in 5 years. B) I find that people who learn to *program* are much less defined by the language(s) in which they program. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334698 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion?
Not to stir the pot any more than it already is, but I wanted to point out two quick things: 1) That's not Ben Forta's blog you linked to. 2) That article was published 6 years ago. Carry on Thanks, Eric Cobb ECAR Technologies, LLC http://www.ecartech.com http://www.cfgears.com Robert Harrison wrote: Right now, the way it's branded (and named), the argument is Cold Fusion vs. .NET.Why do you say that? Because the best links I got out of my previous email were at best bleak. The best link prompted an on-list response that we have 4 years to learn a new language. but the argument of .NET vs J2EE or Adobe vs. Microsoft is a much easier argument. Why do you say that? Because that's the argument Ben Forta makes in his blog: http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/node/46362 Comparing ASP.NET to ColdFusion is difficult. Actually, it's not just difficult, it's simply incorrect, and not an apples-to-apples comparison... In other words, deciding between ColdFusion and ASP.NET (and indeed, defending ColdFusion against ASP.NET) first requires a .NET versus J2EE discussion Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 3:36 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion? Right now, the way it's branded (and named), the argument is Cold Fusion vs. .NET. Why do you say that? That is a hard argument, Why do you say that? but the argument of .NET vs J2EE or Adobe vs. Microsoft is a much easier argument. Why do you say that? Honestly, I'm not trying to be difficult, but none of those statements really seem to be as self-evident as you seem to think. ColdFusion is not just a competitor with .NET; it's a competitor with pure J2EE solutions. But if you were going to cast this as CF vs .NET, there are plenty of compelling arguments you can make for choosing CF over .NET. (And a decent number for choosing .NET also.) The same is true for .NET vs J2EE. And finally, Adobe vs Microsoft isn't a great argument to make in favor of CF - plenty of people use MS server products. Where's Adobe's server OS? Their database platform? Their Sharepoint analog? etc, etc, etc. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334699 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
php.org is written in ColdFusion
Simon Horwith just posted this on his blog (http://www.horwith.com/index.cfm/2010/6/21/php-dot-org-is-written-in-ColdFusion), and it's too good not to pass on! http://php.org/ appears to be written completely in ColdFusion. -- Thanks, Eric Cobb ECAR Technologies, LLC http://www.ecartech.com http://www.cfgears.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334700 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion?
Because the best links I got out of my previous email were at best bleak. The best link prompted an on-list response that we have 4 years to learn a new language. I don't get where CF vs .NET led to that. The Gartner paper isn't CF vs .NET. It's an overall forecast on the value and the viability of CF. Because that's the argument Ben Forta makes in his blog: http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/node/46362 Comparing ASP.NET to ColdFusion is difficult. Actually, it's not just difficult, it's simply incorrect, and not an apples-to-apples comparison... In other words, deciding between ColdFusion and ASP.NET (and indeed, defending ColdFusion against ASP.NET) first requires a .NET versus J2EE discussion Well, that's a technical argument, and while technically accurate it's not going to convince the people in charge of the technicians. If I'm the guy making purchasing decisions, I can choose to go with Adobe's solution, Microsoft's solution, or any one of a bunch of other solutions. The fact that there's not a one-to-one correspondence between ASP.NET and CF doesn't really matter. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334701 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: php.org is written in ColdFusion
http://php.org/ appears to be written completely in ColdFusion. Looks like one of those generic directory/information sites where someone pulled a bunch of stuff off Wikipedia and embedded Google ads to generate revenue. There's likely 1,000 other sites running on the same platform and has very little to do with promoting PHP outside of getting some ad clicks. A reverse IP check at www.yougetsignal.com shows a whole bunch of these types of sites and other questionable material hosted on the same IP block. They all appear to be CF as well. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334702 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Facebook Connect and coldfusion
I am having a hell of a time trying to integrate Facebook Connect with coldfusion. Has anyone successfully setup facebook connect to allow users to register for your site via their facebook login? I'd love, LOVE to see some examples, tutorials, or code. I've tried like 4 different approaches so far, but the farthest I've gotten has been with this app: http://github.com/weejames/Facebook-Connect-Library-for-Cold-Fusion The best I seem to be able to get out of this thing is that after I login via the javascript fb login button (as it suggests), i can now detect a cookie that looks like this: fbs_132109226808255 access_token=132109226808255|2.8MrDlQyXnaAs5d0xTGxLFg__.3600.1277157600-31504595|ypG_vFwGl3Hd7dCTV5sOwMyfRVk.expires=1277157600secret=rCKO2mJYwrsNR54lCpcSeQ__session_key=2.8MrDlQyXnaAs5d0xTGxLFg__.3600.1277157600-31504595sig=5f34254d49ba1cdf07a970b9864cbceduid=31504595 I previously did oAuth integration with twitter, and this stuff looks familiar. But I do not know what to do with it at this point, and frankly this mgiht be a dead end. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334703 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: php.org is written in ColdFusion
It's just a resource site sitting on a CF shared host. Now if it was php.net that was running on ColdFusion, that would be something to get interested in. Andy On 21 June 2010 21:15, Justin Scott jscott-li...@gravityfree.com wrote: http://php.org/ appears to be written completely in ColdFusion. Looks like one of those generic directory/information sites where someone pulled a bunch of stuff off Wikipedia and embedded Google ads to generate revenue. There's likely 1,000 other sites running on the same platform and has very little to do with promoting PHP outside of getting some ad clicks. A reverse IP check at www.yougetsignal.com shows a whole bunch of these types of sites and other questionable material hosted on the same IP block. They all appear to be CF as well. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334704 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: php.org is written in ColdFusion
Does not seem to be a valid site, more of a traffic troll, I think. :-( -Original Message- From: Andy Allan [mailto:andy.al...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 4:49 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: php.org is written in ColdFusion It's just a resource site sitting on a CF shared host. Now if it was php.net that was running on ColdFusion, that would be something to get interested in. Andy On 21 June 2010 21:15, Justin Scott jscott-li...@gravityfree.com wrote: http://php.org/ appears to be written completely in ColdFusion. Looks like one of those generic directory/information sites where someone pulled a bunch of stuff off Wikipedia and embedded Google ads to generate revenue. There's likely 1,000 other sites running on the same platform and has very little to do with promoting PHP outside of getting some ad clicks. A reverse IP check at www.yougetsignal.com shows a whole bunch of these types of sites and other questionable material hosted on the same IP block. They all appear to be CF as well. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334705 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Facebook Connect and coldfusion
Anything helpful here...? http://www.riaforge.org/index.cfm?event=page.search#facebook_catid=1 On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Jeff Gladnick jeff.gladn...@gmail.comwrote: I am having a hell of a time trying to integrate Facebook Connect with coldfusion. Has anyone successfully setup facebook connect to allow users to register for your site via their facebook login? I'd love, LOVE to see some examples, tutorials, or code. I've tried like 4 different approaches so far, but the farthest I've gotten has been with this app: http://github.com/weejames/Facebook-Connect-Library-for-Cold-Fusion The best I seem to be able to get out of this thing is that after I login via the javascript fb login button (as it suggests), i can now detect a cookie that looks like this: fbs_132109226808255 access_token=132109226808255|2.8MrDlQyXnaAs5d0xTGxLFg__.3600.1277157600-31504595|ypG_vFwGl3Hd7dCTV5sOwMyfRVk.expires=1277157600secret=rCKO2mJYwrsNR54lCpcSeQ__session_key=2.8MrDlQyXnaAs5d0xTGxLFg__.3600.1277157600-31504595sig=5f34254d49ba1cdf07a970b9864cbceduid=31504595 I previously did oAuth integration with twitter, and this stuff looks familiar. But I do not know what to do with it at this point, and frankly this mgiht be a dead end. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334706 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Facebook Connect and coldfusion
Been through all of them, they are for writing a coldfusion application for facebook. FB connect is a different animal, and basically provides a single sign on via facebook for your applications. Anything helpful here...? http://www.riaforge.org/index.cfm?event=page.search#facebook_catid=1 On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Jeff Gladnick jeff.gladn...@gmail.comwrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334707 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: php.org is written in ColdFusion
True, but still kinda have to appreciate the irony :) On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Ben Forta b...@forta.com wrote: Does not seem to be a valid site, more of a traffic troll, I think. :-( -Original Message- From: Andy Allan [mailto:andy.al...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 4:49 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: php.org is written in ColdFusion It's just a resource site sitting on a CF shared host. Now if it was php.net that was running on ColdFusion, that would be something to get interested in. Andy On 21 June 2010 21:15, Justin Scott jscott-li...@gravityfree.com wrote: http://php.org/ appears to be written completely in ColdFusion. Looks like one of those generic directory/information sites where someone pulled a bunch of stuff off Wikipedia and embedded Google ads to generate revenue. There's likely 1,000 other sites running on the same platform and has very little to do with promoting PHP outside of getting some ad clicks. A reverse IP check at www.yougetsignal.com shows a whole bunch of these types of sites and other questionable material hosted on the same IP block. They all appear to be CF as well. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334708 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: php.org is written in ColdFusion
Yep, absolutely, and go a good grin from it. Just not sure that it's one I'd blog. ;-) -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:charlie.grie...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 5:30 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: php.org is written in ColdFusion True, but still kinda have to appreciate the irony :) On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Ben Forta b...@forta.com wrote: Does not seem to be a valid site, more of a traffic troll, I think. :-( -Original Message- From: Andy Allan [mailto:andy.al...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 4:49 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: php.org is written in ColdFusion It's just a resource site sitting on a CF shared host. Now if it was php.net that was running on ColdFusion, that would be something to get interested in. Andy On 21 June 2010 21:15, Justin Scott jscott-li...@gravityfree.com wrote: http://php.org/ appears to be written completely in ColdFusion. Looks like one of those generic directory/information sites where someone pulled a bunch of stuff off Wikipedia and embedded Google ads to generate revenue. There's likely 1,000 other sites running on the same platform and has very little to do with promoting PHP outside of getting some ad clicks. A reverse IP check at www.yougetsignal.com shows a whole bunch of these types of sites and other questionable material hosted on the same IP block. They all appear to be CF as well. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334709 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: php.org is written in ColdFusion
On 6/21/2010 2:30 PM, Ben Forta wrote: Yep, absolutely, and go a good grin from it. Just not sure that it's one I'd blog. ;-) Yeah, probably don't need the blog post ColdFusion: The Tool of Choice for Traffic Trolls Everywhere! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334710 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: php.org is written in ColdFusion
True, but still kinda have to appreciate the irony :) Also explains why PHP uses php.net instead of php.org. Freakin domain squatters. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.comwrote: True, but still kinda have to appreciate the irony :) On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Ben Forta b...@forta.com wrote: Does not seem to be a valid site, more of a traffic troll, I think. :-( -Original Message- From: Andy Allan [mailto:andy.al...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 4:49 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: php.org is written in ColdFusion It's just a resource site sitting on a CF shared host. Now if it was php.net that was running on ColdFusion, that would be something to get interested in. Andy On 21 June 2010 21:15, Justin Scott jscott-li...@gravityfree.com wrote: http://php.org/ appears to be written completely in ColdFusion. Looks like one of those generic directory/information sites where someone pulled a bunch of stuff off Wikipedia and embedded Google ads to generate revenue. There's likely 1,000 other sites running on the same platform and has very little to do with promoting PHP outside of getting some ad clicks. A reverse IP check at www.yougetsignal.com shows a whole bunch of these types of sites and other questionable material hosted on the same IP block. They all appear to be CF as well. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334711 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: php.org is written in ColdFusion
True, but still kinda have to appreciate the irony :) When PHP started becoming popular, I remember many people referred to it as the poor man's Cold Fusion. So maybe it's not so ironic after all. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334712 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF vs. ASP.Net
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Well, there ya go, we got another 4 years to learn new languages... Adobe, way to set a bleak future for your own product! Adobe didn't write that, Gartner did. And overall, it's a pretty positive whitepaper. Particularly since Gartner has, in the past, been rather negative about ColdFusion... Nice to see that Gartner view the presence of established open-source alternatives to Adobe's ColdFusion as helping protect investment in CF technology. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334713 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: php.org is written in ColdFusion
On 06/21/2010 02:33 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: On 6/21/2010 2:30 PM, Ben Forta wrote: Yep, absolutely, and go a good grin from it. Just not sure that it's one I'd blog. ;-) Yeah, probably don't need the blog post ColdFusion: The Tool of Choice for Traffic Trolls Everywhere! lol. I was thinking the same thing. It's not like this is something to really be proud of... =\ Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ Open BlueDragon Steering Committee Railo Community Distributions ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334714 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion?
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: Because the best links I got out of my previous email were at best bleak. The best link prompted an on-list response that we have 4 years to learn a new language. Bear in mind that Microsoft introduced ASP at the end of 1996 and essentially replaced it with ASP.NET just five years later. ASP.NET is just over 8 years old. CFML is already 15 years old and still going strong with a new version already being planned (and I believe Adobe have said they have the next two versions on their schedule which probably stretches out about four years - so you've got a couple of years at least of CF11 after that before, no doubt, CF12 follows it and so on). That Gartner report also said the rise of free open source CFML engine helps protect your investment in CF technology (because there will always be runtime engines for it). The suggestion to rebrand ColdFusion (it's one word, not two, BTW), comes up in most ColdFusion is Dead discussions and, as folks tend to point out, renaming it won't magically make it more popular (unfortunately). Adobe seem very dedicated to ColdFusion. They just invested a lot of time and money creating an IDE for it (ColdFusion Builder rocks!). The CF product team folks are currently visiting customers getting feedback for ColdFusion 10 and ColdFusion Builder 2.0 (and later versions - they've already outlined a release schedule that has CFB2 and CFB3). -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334715 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
