Re: cfmail causing problems for our server

[Will Swain]

Mandrill is excellent. We've used it for a while. Just whack their smtp
server into the cf admin and off you go. It's more customisable than that
of course, but the base function of running your mail through their servers
should do the job.

On 10 December 2014 at 23:35, Russ Michaels  wrote:
>
>
> if it is just bulk SMTP you need then www.mandrill.com allows 12,000 per
> month for free.
> For something more advanced try www.sendgrid.com, they also offer an API
> which allows you to send emails without using CFMAIL or SMTP which has its
> benefits.
>
> If you want an actual mailing list manager then mailchimp.com
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Dave Long  wrote:
>
> >
> > My customer's site allows interested visitors to subscribe to
> intermittent
> > e-mail notifications regarding his annual event. My hosting provider
> tells
> > me that use of cfmail to contact his 5,000+ mailing list is triggering
> > blacklisting when we use it to notify subscribers of event changes and
> > additions. He (the hosting provider) insists we use a third party e-mail
> > service instead.
> >
> > Can anyone recommended such a service that can be trusted not to resell
> the
> > DB?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Dave Long
> > NorthGoods Merchant Services
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Alternative to shared SMTP server

[Will Swain]

We use Mandrill, Very happy with it.

On 30 October 2014 12:01, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> We use and recommend send grid
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Kevin Parker 
> wrote:
>
>
> Has anyone had any experience using Send Grid (or even something else) with
> CF - just looking for other options for a site rather than using the shared
> mail server.
>
>
> ++
> Kevin Parker
>
> ++
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: setting up team games

[Will Swain]

Sorry, 9 rounds of games, or 9 games each.


On 4 February 2014 16:15, Chad Gray  wrote:

>
> So like on Friday night
> Team1 vs. Team2
> Team3 vs.Team4
> Team5 vs.Team6
> Team7 vs. Team8
> Team9 vs.Team10
>
> On Saturday
> Team1 vs. team3
> Team2 vs  this is where I choke...  :)
>
> There has to be a way to loop over this and add one or something then when
> you hit 11 reset that to 1
>
> See where I am going?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:06 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: setting up team games
>
>
> I assume you're using a data base and some sort of random generator
> program to match up the teams.  If this is the case, just keep a history
> table of who has played who, then when you run the random play generator,
> check the history and do not allow repeats.
>
> If you're going to get 10 teams to play each other, it's going to take
> more than 10 games to get them to play each other... I think that would
> take 90 games... unless not everyone is playing everyone.
>
> Robert Harrison
> Director of Interactive Services
>
> Austin & Williams
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>
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> Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/austin_williams
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chad Gray [mailto:cg...@careyweb.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:00 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: setting up team games
>
>
> I am working on a website to keep track of baseball teams.  once section
> will be to take like 10 teams and set them up to play each other over 10
> games.
>
> I would like to figure out a way to programmatically to take the 10 teams
> and match them up with the other teams over the 10 games so they only play
> each other once over the course of the 10 games.
>
> Make sense?  I am sure it is something simple, but I can't get my head
> wrapped around it.
>
> Thanks!
> Chad
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: setting up team games

[Will Swain]

9 games surely, since a team cannot play itself.




On 4 February 2014 16:05, Robert Harrison wrote:

>
> I assume you're using a data base and some sort of random generator
> program to match up the teams.  If this is the case, just keep a history
> table of who has played who, then when you run the random play generator,
> check the history and do not allow repeats.
>
> If you're going to get 10 teams to play each other, it's going to take
> more than 10 games to get them to play each other... I think that would
> take 90 games... unless not everyone is playing everyone.
>
> Robert Harrison
> Director of Interactive Services
>
> Austin & Williams
> Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
> 125 Kennedy Drive,  Suite 100   I  Hauppauge, NY 11788
> T 631.231.6600 X 119   F 631.434.7022
> http://www.austin-williams.com
>
> Blog:  http://www.austin-williams.com/blog
> Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/austin_williams
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chad Gray [mailto:cg...@careyweb.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:00 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: setting up team games
>
>
> I am working on a website to keep track of baseball teams.  once section
> will be to take like 10 teams and set them up to play each other over 10
> games.
>
> I would like to figure out a way to programmatically to take the 10 teams
> and match them up with the other teams over the 10 games so they only play
> each other once over the course of the 10 games.
>
> Make sense?  I am sure it is something simple, but I can't get my head
> wrapped around it.
>
> Thanks!
> Chad
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Frustrated and on a deadline please assist

[Will Swain]

Total shot in the dark, but do you have cf debugging switched on? I've
found that it interferes with Ajax calls in the past.


On 19 November 2013 13:09, Steve 'Cutter' Blades <
cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com> wrote:

>
> Can you post some sample code for the autosuggest config and the cfc
> method?
>
> Steve 'Cutter' Blades
> Adobe Community Professional
> Adobe Certified Expert
> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
> 
> http://cutterscrossing.com
>
>
> Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010
>
> https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book
>
> "The best way to predict the future is to help create it"
>
> On 11/19/2013 7:05 AM, Torrent Girl wrote:
> >> Are you specifying the return type in your function call or are you
> >> pulling it out of the default WDDX Packet?
> >>
> >> Your output looks like it’s being returned as javascript escaped JSON.
> >> For example, the following using returntype=json,  yields the correct
> >> raw JSON array:
> >>
> >> URL: http://localhost/tests/jsonTest.
> >> cfc?method=giveMeJson&returnformat=json
> >>
> >> Component:
> >>
> >> component displayname="JSONTest" output="false"{
> >>
> >> remote array function giveMeJson(){
> >> var a = arrayNew(1);
> >> arrayAppend(a,"Miami Area Geriatric Education Center");
> >> arrayAppend(a,"Miami Children's Hospital");
> >> arrayAppend(a,"Miami Research Associates");
> >> arrayAppend(a,"Miami University (Oxford, Ohio)");
> >> arrayAppend(a,"Miami Valley Hospital");
> >> arrayAppend(a,"Miami, FL-546");
> >> arrayAppend(a,"University of MiamiJackson Health System");
> >>
> >> return a;
> >>
> >> }
> >>
> >> }
> >>
> >> Result (which is exactly what should be returned by the request):
> >> ["Miami Area Geriatric Education Center","Miami Children's Hospital",
> >> "Miami Research Associates","Miami University (Oxford, Ohio)","Miami
> >> Valley Hospital","Miami, FL-546","University of MiamiJackson Health
> >> System"]
> >>
> >> Is the string your provided the response from Firebug, an echo of the
> >> var in javascript or what you see as the browser source when you
> >> navigate directly to it?  If so, are you using JQuery’s native .
> >> getJSON() method? That should give you an immediately workable JS
> >> array.
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >> Jon
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 19, 2013, at 12:36 AM, Torrent Girl 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is what my response looks like:
> >>>
> >>> //"\/\/[\"Miami Area Geriatric Education Center\",\"Miami Children's
> >> Hospital\",\"Miami Research Associates\",\"Miami University (Oxford,
> >> Ohio)\",\"Miami Valley Hospital\",\"Miami, FL-546\",\"University of
> >> Miami\\\/Jackson Health System\"]"
> >>>
> >
> > Ok I read about this on one of my many 1,000 google searches for this
> subject and someone mentioned using returnformat=plain. I tried that and I
> get the data back in the correct format:
> >
> >
> /contentfiles/ajaxlookup.cfc?method=getInstitutions&returnformat=plain&term=Miami
> >
> >
> > //["Miami Area Geriatric Education Center","Miami Children's
> Hospital","Miami Research Associates","Miami University (Oxford,
> Ohio)","Miami Valley Hospital","Miami, FL-546","University of
> Miami\/Jackson Health System"]
> >
> >
> > BUT I still don't get the autosuggest drop down on the form.
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException

[Will Swain]

Have you checked the log files? Got a stack trace?


On 19 April 2013 13:58, Richard White  wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I am getting the following error but no information as to where the error
> is occurring.
>
> java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException
>
> This is a massive function. I am prepared to walk through the code step by
> step to find the error but wondering why it wasn't giving me the line of
> code that is causing the error and if there is anyway to find out.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
>
> 

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RE: Source control in CF

[Will Swain]

I can only speak from personal experience, but I found the move from nothing
to Mercurial (which has a similar model to Git) much easier than my
previous, aborted, attempt to get going with SVN. Since then, I've had
experience with both, but not Git, and I can honestly say that big merges
are much happier in Mercurial than in SVN IMO.

That said, the most important thing is to use some form of source control,
whether it be SVN, Git, Hg or whatever. 

Will


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RE: Fusion Reactor

[Will Swain]

Hi Steve,

There's a specific Fusion Reactor google group that you should check out.
Their engineers are very active on there. Might be worth asking them
directly there.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/fusionreactor

Cheers

Will

-Original Message-
From: Steve LaBadie [mailto:slaba...@po-box.esu.edu] 
Sent: 09 January 2013 18:48
To: cf-talk
Subject: Fusion Reactor


We have had Fusion Reactor running for several months and for the first time
we are getting Crash Protection Alerts regarding memory usage. There are no
request running and when looking at Task Manager Performance we are showing
less than 50% memory. In FR it shows 33%. SO I am not sure what I should be
taking away from these alerts.

Any ideas or direction would be helpful

Steve LaBadie, Web Manager
East Stroudsburg University
570-422-3999
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RE: (ot) CF Builder & SVN

[Will Swain]

Just to chip in, we've been using http://repositoryhosting.com/ for well
over a year. SVN, Git and Mercurial hosting, and Trac. Very reasonable
pricing. We've been very happy.

Will

-Original Message-
From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 07 November 2012 22:15
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: (ot) CF Builder & SVN


>
> don;t run your own, use an online service www.projectlocker.com give a 
> pretty decent free account.


Yeah, what Russ said.

1++ for projectlocker.

I have also used xp-dev https://xp-dev.com/  and assembla
https://www.assembla.com/ with good results.  xp-dev.com has the added bonus
of providing  Trac.

I am partial to Assembla at the moment given the amount of (unlimited) space
they give you.

This may help with shopping for a host http://www.svnhostingcomparison.com/

HTH
G!


On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> don;t run your own, use an online service www.projectlocker.com give a 
> pretty decent free account.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Michael Reick 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I've decided to finally make the plunge and start using CF Builder
> (latest
> > version, I think. 2 update 1)  For some inane reason I've also 
> > decided to start using Subversion for source/versioning control at the
same time.
> >
> > I think I've got the SVN server running correctly, TortoiseSVN will 
> > let
> me
> > browse, I think the server. And I used Wil's article on how to get 
> > CFBuilder to talk to the SVN server.
> >
> > In Builder, I've got at least one existing project (entire codebase 
> > of a large site) that I want to add to svn.  Everything I try to go 
> > to Team -> Share Project, it will let me select the SVN server, give 
> > me a bunch of options, (Doesn't seem to matter which I choose) and 
> > at some point it
> will
> > fail, giving me a cryptic Share project has failed. svn: url 
> > 'svn://serveraddress/trunk/Development' doesn't exist. I refresh 
> > TortoiseSVN and I see those directories/locations.  I try again, and 
> > it fails with the same error message.  I try deleting everything in 
> > TortoiseSVN and try from scratch with the same results.
> >
> > I'm still not totally convinced that I want to use SVN, and I 
> > haven't
> even
> > gotten to the point of trying to check/in/commit code. So far, it's 
> > been less than encouraging, especially since I'm still the only 
> > developer on this code.
> >
> > Any helpful hints? Suggestions? Comments?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Michael Reick
> >
> >
>
> 



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RE: The requested URL not found

[Will Swain]

Possibly being daft here, but do you have the http:// prefix?

will

-Original Message-
From: funand learning [mailto:funandlrnn...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 24 July 2012 14:51
To: cf-talk
Subject: The requested URL not found


Hi All,

We have youtube video with a link to our website embedded on it. The URL has
query string as below:

www.abc.com/?visitfrom=youtube

The above URL is causing an error as "The requested URL /?visitfrom=youtube
not found on this server.

Could this be happening due to "/" before the start of query string? Do we
need to change any settings on the server?

Thanks.




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Re: The age old Question. Which framework

[Will Swain]

We've recently built a large web app that handles bookings for a number of
restaurants, including consuming and publishing web services to talk to a
third party epos system. We used FW/1, Coldspring and Taffy to handle this,
and it's worked brilliantly well. It's running on cf9 rather than cf10
though, but not sure if that would make much difference.

Will

On 24 July 2012 12:53, Sandra Clark  wrote:

>
> So I'm on a new contract and part of the contract requirements is
> converting
> an old fusebox (procedural) app to a newer framework.  I've mostly been
> doing Model-Glue in past few years, but because of the XML setup, it
> doesn't
> seem to be an option here.
>
>
>
> Two of the applications (which are newer) were done in CFWheels and are
> currently running on CF7. The new site will be running on CF10.
>
>
>
> Current developers on the project are not familiar with OO at all (but that
> is going to have to change, because the requirements for the project
> require
> OO).  As well the requirement is for an ORM.  I definitely want a
> dependency
> Injector and the ability to create testing modules easily.  Since I have to
> get the current developers up to speed on OO I'm not too concerned about
> requiring a new framework.
>
>
>
> Eventually, the application is going to have to generate a ton of XML and
> rely on web services for many of its tasks to allow outside services to
> consume its data.
>
>
>
> So biggest contenders are:
>
>
>
> CFWheels, ColdBox and FW/1.
>
>
>
> While I know frameworks are a religious experience to some (I survived the
> original fusebox framework wars), I'd love to see opinions (both pro's and
> con's) for the frameworks I've mentioned especially in relation to any of
> the requirements I've noted above.
>
>
>
> What's your experience with the frameworks both from a development and
> testing perspective along with actually running them in an enterprise level
> environment?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me with this.
>
>
>
> Sandra Clark
>
>
>
> By the way, anyone going to RiaCon this year?
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Software Project Development Process

[Will Swain]

Hi Tom,

I suppose it depends on what you call a large project. We've used it on 6
figure projects and it's been fine. But it's worth a look at least to see if
it fits the requirements.

Cheers

Will

-Original Message-
From: Tom Small [mailto:t...@re-base.net] 
Sent: 26 June 2012 11:57
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Software Project Development Process


Hi Will, 

Thanks and will take a look although it might not be suitable for a large
project. 




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Re: Software Project Development Process

[Will Swain]

Gmail has a nice plugin called LucidCharts. Found it pretty good, but not
sure it will meet your needs on a large project.

Worth a look maybe.

Will

On 26 June 2012 10:49, Tom Small  wrote:

>
> Hi Mark
>
> Due to the size of the project we were looking an alternative UML
> diagramming
> tools. A lot of people have suggested reviewing Agile to management a
> large software project.
>
>
> 

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Re: (ot) Maillist with API

[Will Swain]

We've looked at both MailChimp and Campaign Monitor, both of whom have
mature APIs and offer similar functionality. I'd recommend either.

Will

On 6 March 2012 11:29, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> Apologies for the completely OT posting, but I'm in desperate need for a
> solution.
>
> Until recently I have been hosting a discussion maillist for one of my
> customers.  Subscription is required for membership of the list and there
> is
> also an opt-in option on the member profile.  So on a daily basis the
> subscriber list is recompiled based on subscriptions.
>
> I need to move the mail list off my own mail server and I am looking for a
> host with an API (or some other interface, could be SOAP) facility to
> manage
> the subscriber list.
>
> Any ideas please?
>
>
> Jenny Gavin-Wear
> Fast Track Online
> http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/
>
>
>
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RE: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices

[Will Swain]

You are very passive aggressive dude.

Which is a shame, as by taking that tack, and not actually responding to
Dave's points, you reinforce the troll image. 

-Original Message-
From: Irvin Gomez [mailto:ir...@pixel69.com] 
Sent: 11 November 2011 06:04
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices


> 
> I would never call you a trool. Because I have a spell-checker.

Childish.


> Perhaps I'm being ungenerous, but that kind of response from you 
> indicates to me that you don't take this seriously enough to engage 
> your brain cells and actually read what was written.

More childish attack.

>Which, you know,
> kind of makes you look like a trool after all, if you know what I  
>mean.

Even more childish.


>Anyway, to give you the benefit of the doubt, here's an  executive 
>summary of what I wrote, paragraph by paragraph.
> 
> 1. CFLib belongs to Ray.
> 

That doesn't mean he can't get help from the *assumed* CF community. He is
alone because the small community does not have new blood. New blood carries
the torch and keeps things moving. The 'old-timers' are too busy discussing
OOP concepts -which is their right. The problem is that the lack on new
blood will eventually kill CF - and that's the simple point I make.


> 2. Why are new tutorials needed, since CF's basic functionality hasn't 
> changed significantly?
> 

A cursory glance at how things stand today will show any objective observer
that a lot of those resources are obsolete, in need of re-vamping (lots of
new features have been introduced) or were deleted a long time ago.

> 3. There are plenty of beginner and intermediate questions on the list.
>

But how many lists are there? And how many questions in this list? In fact,
it could be argued that this list is perfect example of a stagnant
community. 
> 

> 4. People blog about their interests, not solely for promotional 
> reasons.
>

Once again, I'm not holding the small CF community responsible for anything.
Strawman argument. 


> 5. CF is a successful product.
>

That doesn't mean it is not dying slowly. Strawman argument.

 
> 6. The CF "community" is not composed solely of Adobe employees.
>

You love your straw man, don't you?

 
> 7. Your behavior looks like trolling, even if you're not a troll.
> 

More childish stuff.


> 8. If you want more evangelism, be an evangelist.
>

Strawman argument. I never said I wanted more 'evangelism". 

 
> So, out of those, there's one paragraph that mentions trolling, and 
> states you may well not be a troll. Given your apparent level of 
> reading comprehension, you might want to read these things more slowly 
> and carefully.
> 

More childish, dishonest attack - but it seems the norm with you.


> > In any case, why 10 years?
> Because people have been posting this crap here for ten years already.
> They were posting it when CF was called "Allaire Cold Fusion."
>

The way things are going, the ten years may not be necessary. But only time
will tell. Hope you're right, though. I hope Coldfusion remains a valid
option for many years to come. 




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RE: Wysiwyg editor

[Will Swain]

I think the latest version of tinyMce does this for you. Worth a look for
the OP perhaps. 

Will

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: 25 October 2011 10:06
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Wysiwyg editor


no sorry, but I know from looking atthe code that it allows you to capture
any event and perform an action.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Edward Chanter  wrote:
>
>> -Original Message-
>> you can capture the paste event and put it through the word paste by 
>> default.
>>
>
> Now there's a totally brilliant idea! This is something I really need 
> to figure out how to do. Do you mayhaps have a piece of javascript 
> which does this that you'd be willing to share? I'm still getting my 
> head around JS and coding this one from scratch is a little out of my
league.
>
>
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Re: web service image upload issue

[Will Blake]

Peter,
  I am noticing you are using fileRead to read the file into memory and then 
convert it to base 64 and then to binary.  Why not use cffile action=readbinary 
to avoid jumping through all the hoops to start?  Plus I am thinking that it is 
likely that using fileread to start and cffile to write might cause some issue. 
 I have no resource that I can point to that says it will cause a problem, but 
I would just stick with one or the other.

HTH,
Will  


> I am working on a remote call cfc that will allow remote user to 
> upload an image file. Should be pretty straight forward but I am 
> finding that the image being saved is not quite right and therefore 
> NFG.
> 
> The remote call from my test cfm page is as follows...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  returnvariable="results"   
> webservice="http://localdemo/billclix/billclix04.cfc?wsdl";>   
>name="buildID" value="PetersTestPage01">name="email" value="new...@testing.com">value="pass123">   value="#binaryData#">
> 
> My simplified code on the cfc page is as follows...
> 
> 
>  returntype="string" >
>  default="">
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

>output="#ToBinary( ToBase64( arguments.imageToUpload ))#" 
> nameconflict="OVERWRITE" />
> 
> 
  
> Image Upload Done
> 
> 
> 
> 
> As I said the saved image is NFG, when I open the image file in 
> notepad and compare it to the original the source is 99.9% identical 
> does anyone have any thoughts on why it is not 100% identical? 

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RE: cffileupload Error 2038

[Will Swain]

Is this error in all browsers? Googling that error code suggests browser
specific issues, and problems with the Flash file uploader, but I couldn't
see any solutions.


-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: 01 June 2011 12:50
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: cffileupload Error 2038


how long does it take until you get that error, is it a timeout issues
perhaps ?

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:07 PM, steelers4582  wrote:

>
> No, I am alerting the FILE.error attribute and that's all it says
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://old.nabble.com/cffileupload-Error-2038-tp31748485p31748549.html
> Sent from the Cold Fusion - Technical mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
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Re: Can anyone decode this?

[Will Blake]

I know this is a few days old, but just curious the OP says this attack was 
caught by some custom code.  Will cfqueryparam not protect input sufficiently 
enough to disrupt this kind of attack?  Should additional measures be used?

Thanks,
Will



>Bobby,
>
>Good work... except don't respond and include the actual URL -  or if you do
>find a way to disable it. It will show up in email readers as a link and (in
>this case) it will end up published on the HOF archive page for this thread.
>We don't want to give this malicious site any additional traffic :)
>
>-Mark
>
>Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
>(402) 408-3733 ext 105
>www.cfwebtools.com
>www.coldfusionmuse.com
>www.necfug.com
>
>


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Re: KickAssVps.com Experiences

[Will Tomlinson]

 Beyond this they seem to be a good company although I'm a little 
>squeemish about there not being telephone tech support available. That's the 
>impression I get from viewing their Web Site. Any feedback will be very much 
>appreciated.
>
>Peter Donahue

My experience with them sucked. My hosting setup was a bit rocky. The support 
was ok, but aremysitesup.com reported site down messages to me almost every 
day, multiple times a day. I don't know how Rick is doing well with them, he 
must've gotten the magical kickassvps account.

I use viviotech now. No, it isn't a discount host, but they're rock solid from 
top to bottom. It's been a pleasure dealing with them for over a year now. 

Oh, and my aremysitesup has been extremely quiet the entire time. 

my .02

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RE: Using Google Apps/Gmail for CFMail - limitations?

[Will Swain]

Second the advice to use an MSP like Mailchimp for newsletters etc. They
have a nice API too. Alternatives are Postmark, Campaign Monitor and many
others.

 

Will

 

From: Stefan Richter [mailto:ste...@flashcomguru.com] 
Sent: 17 February 2011 08:47
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Using Google Apps/Gmail for CFMail - limitations?

 

 

I've been using MailEnable (free version) for years and I'm quite happy with
it. On another box I paid for Kerio Mailserver, again a good product IMO.
I've now moved all mail for my domains to Google Apps and use my mailserver
for sending. If you are handling newsletter I recommend a service such as
Mailchimp, or if you want to manage it yourself (as I do right now) and you
are on OSX then check out Direct Mail:
http://ethreesoftware.com/directmail/index.php

I send 10,000 emails bi-weekly using Direct Mail and it does the job very
nicely indeed. I like the fact that you can run queries directly against
remote datasources to pull your list into the app.

Regards,

Stefan




On 17 Feb 2011, at 02:10, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote:

>
> I think that'd be overkill, given the relatively low volume.  FWIW, I'm
with
> KickAssVPS and have been happy with them now that I have my server set up.
>
> Pete
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Sean Corfield
wrote:
>
>>
>> I think you should serious consider something like a PowerMTA server
>> at your hosting company...
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Pete Ruckelshaus
>>  wrote:
>>> I'm switching several domains over from multiple shared hosting accounts
>> to
>>> a virtual private server.  For a number of reasons (server resources,
>>> managing accounts), I am using the Gmail that comes with Google Apps for
>>> domain email for each domain.Without an SMTP server, I'll need to
use
>>> GMail for mail sending.  I've found references to others doing that
here,
>>> but I'm wondering what the limits are for sending email?  Does Google
>>> throttle or otherwise inhibit email?  One of the domains has about 5k
>> users
>>> in an opt-in email list, and I want to make sure I'm not going to cause
>>> myself problems.  Emails are sent from this site once, perhaps twice per
>>> week, so I think I'm looking at 10,000 outgoing emails
>>




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Re: refreshing application variables

[Will Tomlinson]

> How does one refresh application.cfc application variables without 
> restarting coldfusion services? Thanks in advance. 

And I would recommend using a hard to guess url variable to fire off the app 
restart:

?hardToGuessVar=1

Otherwise, hoodlums like Ray Camden will run around restarting your app 100 
times a day.   :)

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RE: Charge for meetings

[Will Swain]

Cheap option -  <http://repositoryhosting.com/>
http://repositoryhosting.com/

 

SVN, Git, HG and Trac support for $6 a month. Unlimited users, projects and
repos. 

 

We've been using them for around 6/7 months and not had any issues.

 

Will

 

From: Justin Scott [mailto:leviat...@darktech.org] 
Sent: 08 February 2011 02:14
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Charge for meetings

 

 

>> Unfuddle.com seems to be the most accessible for clients in terms of
>> friendly terminology etc.
>>
>> And I use git with it.
>
> Hey wow.  Me too :)

I'm glad this topic came up as I'm in the market for a new centralized
repository for git as well as an issue tracking system, so this looks
to be just what I'm looking for.


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Re: SOT - site monitors

[Will Tomlinson]

>I unashamedly admit I don't want to pay for a service if I can. Can anyone
>recommend anything or alternatively I'm happy to run it off my own box if
>someone can recommend some code etc
>
>TIA!


I use aremysitesup.com

Works well. 

Will 

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Re: Application.cfc & cfinclude

[Will Tomlinson]

> Hi Folks - 
> 
> I am feeling dumb and either I am missing something simple or it's way 
> above me.
> 
> In my application.cfc, I was going to have a cfinclude that would pull 
> in my DB Name, user name, and password.
> 

I would store those variables in application scope in onApplicationStart(). 
Then reference them from there. 

But I pass them into data access cfc objects in my init()'s in 
onApplicationStart(), and save to variables in the data access cfc. Then in 
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Re: why is cf_builder so slow? (was: expensive)

[Will Tomlinson]

>Gerald,
>
>Your comments about CFB being slow bother me, and warrant some exploration.
>Can you provide more detail? Do you have projects set up into a shared dev
>environment over the network? I can't imagine that would be fast for any
>IDE.
>

I'm not a CFBuilder fan, I've always liked DW. But let's drag DW into it. I've 
had DW hang on me. Hog resources, run slow, JS errors, etc. 

I use Coda on my Mac now and really like it. But it's done some kooky things at 
times. FTP (transmit) has been strange, and some other issues. But I like it in 
general. 

Maybe nothing will be perfect. 

Will 

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RE: why is cf_builder so expensive?

[Will Swain]

WTF? You know you can use cfeclipse for free right? So if CFB is too rich
for you, go right ahead and pick up a free cfml ide. I'm sure Adobe will
survive. 

And the next time I want a free website, I'll be sure to come to you since
you clearly don't believe in charging for your work. 



-Original Message-
From: Dave Long [mailto:d...@northgoods.com] 
Sent: 26 January 2011 22:05
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: why is cf_builder so expensive?


I do appreciate the assistance I have received from members of this group
but overpriced goods squeeze the cynicism out of my pores.

It seems defenders of Adobe's pricing like to compare the cost of CFB to
tools used by carpenters, plumbers and mechanics. However, that comparison
is invalid because there is only a small reduction of manufacturing costs as
volume of real world tool sales increases. Margin does not necessarily
increase as more units are sold.

This is not true of software which, once developed, has only minute costs
involved as more copies are sold. Margin increases rapidly and thus the
software could be priced at one half the price and sales might double with
margin remaining intact, increasing at a slower rate perhaps but increasing
none the less. Oh well, they were told at Harvard that "greed is good!" Bill
Gates set the standard and they all want to be him at the expense of their
customers. Why settle for being millionaires when you can soak your
customers and be billionaires.

Another factor in Adobe's pricing is to discourage entry as much as
possible. This approach has been used by AutoDesk since the 1990s and
prevents a lot of architect wannabees carpenters from designing the
buildings they build. With CFNL as simple as it is, every high school senior
in the country might be jumping into data driven design.

Perhaps the folks at Adobe even want to kill it off, judging by the price
charged for their Enterprise version. 

Time to learn PHP, I guess.

Dave
 

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 3:15 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: why is cf_builder so expensive?



> > > It would be nice if unicorns shit rainbows too.
> >
> > Well, you can get unicorn meat:)  
> > http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/wacky-edibles/e5a7/
>
> I don't know. Look at where those rainbows are in the meat chart.

I think I covered that in my initial statement. I always choose my words
carefully.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule,
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Re: favorite coldfusion host

[Will Tomlinson]

> Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also?  
> Hostek?  CrystalTech?  DailyRazor?  
> 

+ 1 Viviotech. I feel much better knowing those guys have my back. 

I have two VPS's with them. One for my Railo, one for my Database. No, it isn't 
discount-cheap-fast food hosting. You get what you pay for though.

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Re: multiple Application.cfcs

[Will Tomlinson]

>so I've got a site with a few Application.cfc (basically I want to
>lock down some folders).
>If everyone has to log in to hit the admin/Application.cfc does that
>cfc need the onApplicationStart method or even onSessionStat methods?
>And it shouldn't need the application variables either correct?
>Am I on the right track of thought?

Greg,

I think you're correct in your thinking. onAppStart and onSessionStart don't 
need to be in admin/application.cfc

But you might want to extend your root application.cfc if you want to use its 
variables, etc. I use Sean's technique...works nicely. 

http://corfield.org/entry/Extending_Your_Root_Applicationcfc

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RE: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?

[Will Swain]

Got it for Christmas, but haven't had a chance to start it yet.

For those who have run through this book, how much time at a minimum did
they find they needed to spend on each language? 

w

-Original Message-
From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 13 January 2011 12:13
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?


> Why not join myself, Ben Nadel and many other CFers by purchasing "Seven
Languages in Seven Weeks" and working thru all the exercises?

http://www.amazon.com/Seven-Languages-Weeks-Programming-Programmers/dp/19343
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Re: trying to pass ajax complex strings within another form

[Will Tomlinson]

> > > After that I wanted to click the top submit button that submits 
> all 
> > 
> > > the other form elements to the action page. This of course 
> generates 
> > 

Looks like your CF doesn't have access to createObject() 

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Re: trying to pass ajax complex strings within another form

[Will Tomlinson]

> After that I wanted to click the top submit button that submits all 
> the other form elements to the action page. This of course generates 
> an error that says element data undefine.
> 

It looks like you're binding to an id of #submit, but the submit button doesn't 
have an id="submit", so the ajax call doesn't work. 

Then you need to make sure to return false; inside that same jquery handler, so 
that it doesn't try posting the form without the ajax call.  

Will 

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Re: Coldfusion Code Review Tool

[Will Tomlinson]

>Can anyone recommend any good tool that can be used for Coldfusion Code 
>Reviews? 
>I tried Sonar but could'nt find coldfusion plugin for the same.
>

I built one a couple of years back. You'd need to have some knowledge of Regexs 
to use it. It uses a MySQL DB. 

http://willtomlinson.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/announcing-code-scanner-10/

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SOT: FireFTP - Upload appends files instead of overwrites?

[Will Tomlinson]

I ran into a bizarre issue last night where FireFTP wouldn't overwrite my 
Application.cfc. The site started erroring with invalid tokens. 

When I viewed the code on the live server, I noticed the Application.cfc had 
been appended to with as many  tags as I had uploaded the files. I 
had like six  tags in my Application.cfc. hehehe I was tipped 
off when I saw that the file sizes kept growing as I made my uploads. 

I checked my FireFTP settings and didn't see anything that jumped out. Has 
anyone seen this behavior before?

Thanks,
Will 

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Re: Moving from MSSQL to mySQL

[Will Tomlinson]

>Hello All.
>
>Is there a utility that will allow me to copy the tables and structure from
>an MS SQL database to a mySQL one?
>
>Thanks

I use this product - works flawlessly. When moving large amounts of data, just 
be sure to go into settings and use NO skin. It bogs it down. Otherwise it 
works beauifully...maintaining PK's, FK's, indexes, etc etc.

http://dbconvert.com/convert-mssql-to-mysql-sync.php

Will 

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Re: Hosted VPS recommendations

[Will Tomlinson]

> Can anyone recommend a decent VPS host with a basic windows server 
> setup that would allow several developers to login and develop 
> remotely?
> 
> Dan 

- 1 kickassvps - aremysitesup.com overloaded my phone txts with server down 
notifications. I had other problems with support as well. Don't know how others 
here got the 'magical support' packages. 

+ 1 viviotech - nothing but amazing - I recommend them to everyone. Mark Keymer 
and Jordan rock. 

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Re: slow cfquery cfqueryparam?

[Will Tomlinson]

>transferring data from one app to another
>


I'd just use Navicat to transfer the data. No CF needed. Quick and easy. 

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Re: slow cfquery cfqueryparam?

[Will Tomlinson]

> Hi,
> 
> I am running the following cfquery which inserts a large amount of 
> rows into a table (approx 2200)

Just out of curiosity, where does your insert data originate from? 

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Re: Importing from CSV to a database

[Will Tomlinson]

>Thanks, but it is not that simple.
>I have plenty of things to check, convert, validate, etc.
>Don't forget an Excel file is created and filled by humans ;-)

I would figure out a way to use my RDBMS to handle this. Navicat or SQL Server 
tools to do it. 

Then clean the data or whatever once it's in there. To reference those crappy 
fieldnames you'll need to use aliases

SELECT some[space]crap[space] fieldname as somethingICanUse
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RE: Subversion Software

[Will Swain]

Just to throw it into the mix, we've been using this lot:

http://repositoryhosting.com/

very reasonable price wise, and reliable. 


-Original Message-
From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 13 October 2010 22:04
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Subversion Software


>> Assembla.com is just one of many.

2 gig free? Schweet. I am pretty close to pegging my free unfuddle accounts.

Nice call. Thanx Wil!

G!

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Wil Genovese  wrote:

>
> I have a simple Linux server with Apache and the WebDav mod installed.
>
> Centos or Ubuntu Server will let you do this very easily.  Otherwise, if
> you want a simple cheap full featured solution, including wiki, trak,
> ticketing, etc, try one of the many free or cheap hosted solutions.
>
>
>
> Wil Genovese
> Sr. Web Application Developer/
> Systems Administrator
>
> wilg...@trunkful.com
> www.trunkful.com
>
> On Oct 13, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Paul Alkema wrote:
>
> >
> > Hey All,
> >
> > I'm looking to set up a subversion server and was wondering what types
of
> > subversion servers you all have set up and what software do you use to
> > manage it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul Alkema
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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RE: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe

[Will Swain]

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2010/10/07/why-google-is-a-better-partner-for-ado
be-than-microsoft/

interesting blog about the talks. I tend to agree.

-Original Message-
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Sent: 07 October 2010 22:14
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Subject: Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe


Microsoft Photoshop? Investors and the stock market does not make one bit of
sense.

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Jeff Gladnick
wrote:

>
>
>
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/10/07/adobe-shares-soar-on-rumor-of-mi
crosoft-bid/
>
> What's that mean for Coldfusion!?
>
> 



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RE: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe

[Will Swain]

I agree. I don't see this happening. Just sounds like Adobe talking to M$
like they have been about Android and RIM. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: 07 October 2010 22:15
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe


>
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/10/07/adobe-shares-soar-on-rumor-of-mi
crosoft-bid/
>
> What's that mean for Coldfusion!?

If this actually happened, I suspect that the product would be
divested or discontinued. But I really doubt that this will happen.
The only thing that Adobe has that MS doesn't is the design tools
market. There isn't much history of MS buying established competitors
to their own products. And speaking of established competitors, during
the existence of CF, Microsoft has gone through at least four
different competing products: they had a couple of things before ASP
(IDC and HTX I think), then there was ASP, then ASP.NET.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
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RE: What version-/source control are you using (if any)?

[Will Swain]

Any good tutorials out there that people can recommend on getting up to
speed with Mercurial? We use SVN at the moment, and it's fine, but I'm
interested in Mercurial.

Thanks

Will

-Original Message-
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Sent: 29 September 2010 12:50
To: cf-talk
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On 29/09/2010 9:28 PM, Russ Michaels wrote:
>
> I have used this and it works great. Be careful not to listen to the
> Linux-fanboys they slag this off purely because it is a windows solution,
> however it does exactly what it says on the tin, I have never had any
issues
> with it.

I might add to my previous comment about using both SVN and Hg as we are 
a Windows shop. The SVN server is a Windows one, the Collabnet SVN 
server download is a click > click > run install and no issues whatsoever.


-- 

Yours,

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RE: The solution: (was: Re: Is there a way to force lock release on Access database? (CF9) )

[Will Swain]

At the risk of taking this off topic (it's too late I know)

But technically, one tosses a dwarf:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_tossing

-Original Message-
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Sent: 21 September 2010 11:44
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: The solution: (was: Re: Is there a way to force lock release on
Access database? (CF9) )


Nobody throws a dwarf... ;o)

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:26 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: The solution: (was: Re: Is there a way to force lock release on
Access database? (CF9) )


throwing a dwarf may also help

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:23 AM, James Holmes wrote:

>
> Have you tried intentionally throwing an error?
>
> **runs away**
>
> :-P
>
> --
> WSS4CF - WS-Security framework for CF
> http://wss4cf.riaforge.org/
>
>
>
> On 21 September 2010 05:28, Russ Michaels  wrote:
> >
> > don't blame you, its a very long and repetitive thread.
>
> 





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Re: CFFM 1.32 Released

[Will Tomlinson]

>Demo: http://www.opensourcecf.com/cffm/demo


Rick, the demo doesn't come up:

HTTP Status 404 - /cffm/demo/

Thanks,
Will 

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RE: Is there a way to force lock release on Access database? (CF9)

[Will Swain]

Sorry - like I said, it's been a while. 


-Original Message-
From: Mike Kear [mailto:afpwebwo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 15 September 2010 18:21
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Is there a way to force lock release on Access database? (CF9)


Yes, that's what i used to do too, Will.  But that was in the CF5
days.   With MX that stopped doing the trick.

Cheers
Mike Kear


On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:39 AM, Will Swain  wrote:
>
> We used to have to create a 'bad' connection by querying a non-existent
> table or something. That would break the connection and release the .ldb.
> This was years ago though.
>
> Will
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Root [mailto:rick.r...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 15 September 2010 17:31
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Is there a way to force lock release on Access database?
(CF9)
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Russ Michaels 
wrote:
>>
>> unchecking the "maintain database connections" in the DSN may work.
>
> WE used to do this back in the 90s when I was still using Access
> databases for web sites :)
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> 



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RE: Is there a way to force lock release on Access database? (CF9)

[Will Swain]

We used to have to create a 'bad' connection by querying a non-existent
table or something. That would break the connection and release the .ldb.
This was years ago though. 

Will

-Original Message-
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To: cf-talk
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On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:
>
> unchecking the "maintain database connections" in the DSN may work.

WE used to do this back in the 90s when I was still using Access
databases for web sites :)

Rick



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Re: social network application based on CF ?

[Will Tomlinson]

> Hi list, is there any social network application / social network 
> framework based on CF you guys are aware of ?
> Thanks in advance for your feedback !
> 
> Uwe
> 

This one is PHP, but I know folks that seem to love it. 

http://www.socialengine.net/

Will



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Re: Millions of Coldfusion sites need to apply patches

[Will Tomlinson]

> Richard Brain of ProCheckUp commented “This is a trivial attack which 
> can be performed easily by a competent engineer; ProCheckUp thanks 
> Adobe for consciously working with us to produce a patch which fixes 
> the traversal attack. By performing a simple Google search for 
> inurl:index.cfm, it was found that over 80 million examples of  sites 
> using Coldfusion.
> 

Gee, I thought ColdFusion was dead. Guess not

Will

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Re: Suppressing whitespace from CFCs

[Will Tomlinson]

>The general consensus is that CFCs should be used primarily to encapsulate
>logic, and data retrieval. If you want to output something it really should
>be in a CFM page, or a custom tag.
>
>

Man, consensus scares me.  :)

Will 

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Re: www.cbo.gov down. CF to blame?

[Will Tomlinson]

I keep trying to post to this thread but HOF is down. hehehehe!!

Why is no one mentioning the Java argument? Ask your friends if they think Java 
sucks and can't handle load. 

Then you got'em by the gonads. 

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Re: Form cleaner utility

[Will Tomlinson]

> 
> Why not just use CFQUERYPARAM bound parameters in your SQL?
> 

In my case, I'm scrubbing the data. cfqueryparam doesn't do that. 


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Form cleaner utility

[Will Tomlinson]

I'm building a form cleaner utility method that might help thwart some XSS, 
clean my fields up, etc. Know I can't stop it all. Didnt see anything on 
riaforge exactly like what I'm lookin for here. 

Here's what I've got so far. Anyone have anything to add?


 
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
 
 



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Re: CF Query to WDDX to Javascript. Possible?

[Will Blake]

Cameron,
   Agreed.  We do have CF 9 we just have not installed it yet.  I am not 100% 
sure what is taking so long to get it done, but that is a decision that much 
higher up in the food chain than I am. 

I'll check out CFLib.org and see what I can find.  Thanks for the info.

Will  


>> OK, first not sure why there are two threads going about this question
>
>Probably something about the HOF email/BB interface splitting it up.
>
>> I currently on CF 6.1 so I (should?) be able to get a JSON response, I will
>> take a look at that route.  I do not have a lot of experience doing this type
>> of thing so I am pretty sure there is a better way to go than I am currently
>> going, and if JSON is it I am open to it.
>
>If possible, I would seriously considering moving up to the current
>version of CF (CF9).  If that's not possible, you're going to continue
>running into problems with functionality that you'd really REALLY love
>to have, but you don't.  Often the cost of upgrade is cheaper than
>whatever hourly rate you apply to recreating features that are
>included in CF9 for you right out of the box.
>
>Having said that I don't think JSON formatted output from CFCs was
>introduced till CF8.
>
>However, JSON is just another way to format output.  You can easily
>build your own JSON strings from objects.  If you search cflib.org you
>might even find some stuff there that works with CF6.1.  Again though,
>the time you will spend trying top rebuild features that are "just
>there" in CF9 can be high.
>
>-Cameron
>
>-- 
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Re: CF Query to WDDX to Javascript. Possible?

[Will Blake]

OK, first not sure why there are two threads going about this question...  
Anyway, to address some of the comments:

I currently on CF 6.1 so I (should?) be able to get a JSON response, I will 
take a look at that route.  I do not have a lot of experience doing this type 
of thing so I am pretty sure there is a better way to go than I am currently 
going, and if JSON is it I am open to it.


>> No, WDDX is XML, not Javascript; it always has been.
>
>The WDDX SDK actually shipped with a fairly robust (for the time) set
>of JS libraries for manipulating WDDX data via JavaScript.
>
>Looks like the official home(s) for the WDDX SDK (wddx.org, then
>openwddx.org) went away some times ago, but you can still find the
>original docs hosted elsewhere via google (ie:
>http://www.finwin.com/Dev/wddxsdk/).  There is also some JS
>documentation in the official CF docs at Adobe.com (do a search).
>
>However, I would echo the suggestion that you look into JSON and some
>of the JSON parsers for better forward compatibility.  WDDX had it's
>day in the sun, and it's still valid and useful, but JSON is going to
>take you farther with more available tools and a brighter future.
>
>-Cameron
>
>-- 
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>http://www.sumoc.com
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Re: CF Query to WDDX to Javascript. Possible?

[Will Blake]

> It's been a long time since I've done this so this may not be useful, 
> but isn't the returned packet a Javascript array?  At least it was 
> when I used to use cfwddx, so it was just a matter of normal array 
> manipulation. 

Thanks for the response!  You would think so, but from my experience I cannot 
get at the data the same way I would with a normal array. For example: 
"response.SCNDRY_TXT[1]" returns undefined when I try to 'alert' the value, 
where response is the name of the total data set, and SCNDRY_TXT is the field 
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CF Query to WDDX to Javascript. Possible?

[Will Blake]

Hello all,
   I have a select menu that I need to be dynamically populated with the 
results of a db query.  I am using jQuery/ajax to pass a value to search for in 
the database.  This all seems to work fine except what is returned is a WDDX 
packet and I cannot figure out how to take the data that is returned and put it 
in the dynamic select menu.

I know CF has a de-serializier but, as this is done at run time on the client 
machine I do not see how that would help.  I know jQuery/JS you can use the 
eval() function to parse the wddx packet, but the data that comes out looks the 
same as the data going in. How do I navigate the wddx packet?  I have tried 
what would make sense (i.e. data.fieldName.value)but what JavaScript shows me 
is blank or undefined.

Thanks!

Here is a copy of the packet:

  
  

  
4.0
5.0
6.0
  
  
ARL Special Dispatch
APG Special Dispatch
ARL - APG Dispatch
  

  
 

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RE: Best conference?

[Will Swain]

:) It was the free beer that did it Andy. 

-Original Message-
From: Andy Allan [mailto:andy.al...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 14 July 2010 10:18
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Best conference?


Always nice to see someone give us a vote.

Having been to CFUnited (twice), MAX (3 times), FOWD and of course SotR,
they all have their own nuances that makes them all unique.

Ultimately you need to decide on; cost, location, content.

Andy

On 14 July 2010 09:34, Will Swain  wrote:
>
> Scotch on the Rocks.
>
> There was free beer this year. Free beer is always good.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Clarke [mailto:s...@clarke.ca]
> Sent: 13 July 2010 21:57
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Best conference?
>
>
> Thanks, I hadn't really considered that one.  My big concern right now 
> is CFUnited.  I would have liked to go but since there are other 
> options and it's a very inconvenient time for me I think I'll check 
> out one of the others later on in the year or next year.
>
> I'm not knocking NCDevCon but most of the emphasis seemed to be on 
> "other than CF", and most of the CF topics didn't really grab my
attention.
>
> - Andrew.
>
> On 2010-07-13, at 16:36, Charlie Griefer wrote:
>
>> They've all got their pros and cons.
>>
>> I think CFUnited has the widest variety of content (from beginner to 
>> somewhat advanced), and it's certainly one of the biggest CF-based 
>> conferences (probably second only to MAX).  Lots of networking and 
>> good times with friends.
>>
>> Based on what you've said, I'd look at cf.Objective().  It's a 
>> smaller conference with more advanced topics, and probably more that 
>> you'd find relevant.
>>
>> While conferences like NCDevCon may feature Flash/Flex etc, you 
>> shouldn't let that dissuade you.  As long as there are enough 
>> sessions specific to what you want to learn, doesn't really matter 
>> how many other sessions there might be, or how "off-topic" they are.  
>> And as far as NCDevCon goes, you can't beat the price.
>>
>> IMO, regardless of which one you may choose to attend, it'll be
> worthwhile.
>> Of the conferences that I've been fortunate enough to get to 
>> (CFUnited, cf.Objective(), and MAX), it's evident that the folks 
>> behind them make every effort to ensure that it's both a valuable and 
>> fun
> experience.
>>
>>
>> -
>> Charlie Griefer
>> http://charlie.griefer.com/
>
>
>
> 



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RE: Best conference?

[Will Swain]

Scotch on the Rocks. 

There was free beer this year. Free beer is always good.


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Clarke [mailto:s...@clarke.ca] 
Sent: 13 July 2010 21:57
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Best conference?


Thanks, I hadn't really considered that one.  My big concern right now is
CFUnited.  I would have liked to go but since there are other options and
it's a very inconvenient time for me I think I'll check out one of the
others later on in the year or next year.

I'm not knocking NCDevCon but most of the emphasis seemed to be on "other
than CF", and most of the CF topics didn't really grab my attention.

- Andrew.

On 2010-07-13, at 16:36, Charlie Griefer wrote:

> They've all got their pros and cons.
> 
> I think CFUnited has the widest variety of content (from beginner to 
> somewhat advanced), and it's certainly one of the biggest CF-based 
> conferences (probably second only to MAX).  Lots of networking and 
> good times with friends.
> 
> Based on what you've said, I'd look at cf.Objective().  It's a smaller 
> conference with more advanced topics, and probably more that you'd 
> find relevant.
> 
> While conferences like NCDevCon may feature Flash/Flex etc, you 
> shouldn't let that dissuade you.  As long as there are enough sessions 
> specific to what you want to learn, doesn't really matter how many 
> other sessions there might be, or how "off-topic" they are.  And as 
> far as NCDevCon goes, you can't beat the price.
> 
> IMO, regardless of which one you may choose to attend, it'll be
worthwhile.
> Of the conferences that I've been fortunate enough to get to 
> (CFUnited, cf.Objective(), and MAX), it's evident that the folks 
> behind them make every effort to ensure that it's both a valuable and fun
experience.
> 
> 
> -
> Charlie Griefer
> http://charlie.griefer.com/



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RE: ColdFusion Blogging Engines

[Will Swain]

That's very interesting Casey. Thanks. I'll look into scribefire. 

w

-Original Message-
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Sent: 12 July 2010 20:15
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion Blogging Engines


On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Jake Churchill  wrote:

> Yeah, I agree.  I'm no designer either, but I enjoy a slick UI.  I'll 
> try Mango and if that doesn't work out I'll probably fall back to BlogCFC.
>

Well, that could be going further and further by the waste side with browser
plugins that allow you to publish to your blog.

Scribfire extension as example; http://www.scribefire.com/ I don't use a
blog at the moment but I set this up with BlogCFC for a few clients, and the
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RE: ColdFusion Blogging Engines

[Will Swain]

With you on the UI - but then as Ray is always saying, he's no designer.
There is no built in WYSIWIG editor - but it's not to hard to add one.

w

-Original Message-
From: Jake Churchill [mailto:reyna...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 12 July 2010 17:50
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion Blogging Engines


I like having the plugin architecture that wordpress gives you (and mango
has this as well).  Also, the WYSIWYG editor in BlogCFC was not good.  In
fact, I don't remember if there even was one.  I remember always writing any
HTML myself.

Beyond those specifics, wordpress just has a smooth UI and BlogCFC seemed
kind of clunky.

-Jake

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Will Swain  wrote:

>
> Haven't tried Mango. Have used blogCFC for a few blogs, and been happy 
> with it. What sort of things doesn't it do that you'd want it to do, 
> out of interest?
>
> Will
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jake Churchill [mailto:reyna...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 12 July 2010 15:43
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: ColdFusion Blogging Engines
>
>
> I'm looking at blog engines for a new site that I'm setting up and the 
> server only has CF on it.  I use WordPress for my own blog and I love 
> it but I don't want to mess with PHP installation.  I know it's pretty 
> easy, I just wanted to take this opportunity to re-visit CF Blogging 
> engines.
>
> I used BlogCFC before and (sorry Ray) I didn't like it very much.  It 
> gets the job done but it doesn't have the features of WordPress.  
> Maybe newer versions do.
>
> So, my question is what blogging engines do people use (CF Based 
> Blogging Engines).
>
> I'm currently leaning toward Mango but I wanted to get some input from 
> other developers/bloggers out there.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> -Jake
>
>
>
>
> 



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RE: ColdFusion Blogging Engines

[Will Swain]

Haven't tried Mango. Have used blogCFC for a few blogs, and been happy with
it. What sort of things doesn't it do that you'd want it to do, out of
interest?

Will

-Original Message-
From: Jake Churchill [mailto:reyna...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 12 July 2010 15:43
To: cf-talk
Subject: ColdFusion Blogging Engines


I'm looking at blog engines for a new site that I'm setting up and the
server only has CF on it.  I use WordPress for my own blog and I love it but
I don't want to mess with PHP installation.  I know it's pretty easy, I just
wanted to take this opportunity to re-visit CF Blogging engines.

I used BlogCFC before and (sorry Ray) I didn't like it very much.  It gets
the job done but it doesn't have the features of WordPress.  Maybe newer
versions do.

So, my question is what blogging engines do people use (CF Based Blogging
Engines).

I'm currently leaning toward Mango but I wanted to get some input from other
developers/bloggers out there.

Thanks for any input.

-Jake




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RE: Ok...Assembla's gone a little mad. Need new SVN host...

[Will Swain]

I've been using repository hosting for about 5 months. Very happy so far,
and you can't beat the price:

$6 a month for unlimited repos, unlimited trac, unlimited users, 2Gb
storage. 

http://repositoryhosting.com/

When I've needed their support, they have been very responsive, and they
offer a 30 day free trial.

Cheers

Will


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Re: Hosting Inquiry

[Will Tomlinson]

>Hi, Jim...
>
>Check into www.KickAssVPS.com.
>
>I've been with them for two years and haven't had a single
>moment of downtime.  Seriously...
>

I was with them for a few months and I had to move to a better host. I have an 
account at aremysitesup.com, which sends me txts when one of my sites is down. 

It sent me so many txts from my kickass sites being down, that it overshot my 
txt plan. lol! I literally got 6+ emails a day, all throughout the day. 

I moved to viviotech.net and now I get maybe one site down txt every few weeks. 
Amazing difference there...

Anyway, I figured I'd shoot Rick down, and give a thumbs up to Viviotech.net!  
:)

Will 

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Re: SQL - Selecting a row based off linking table row matches

[Will Tomlinson]

Could someone show me an example? I've tried all kinds of stuff with no luck.

Thanks,
Will 

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Re: SQL - Selecting a row based off linking table row matches

[Will Tomlinson]

>Use an inner join on the id's that you wish to link across the tables.
>
>

I don't get what you mean Andrew. Sorry. 

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SQL - Selecting a row based off linking table row matches

[Will Tomlinson]

MySql 5, I have this product schema. There are other tables involved but this 
is the pertinent part. 

tblskus

skuid  pk
sku_prodid
more fields...

tblskuoptions

skuoptionid  pk
skuoptionname
more fields...

tblskuoptions_rel (linking many table)

skuid  fk
skuoptionid  fk


The user is presented with two dropdowns for example. 

Select color:
Select size:

I create a list based off their choices. I have a productid they submitted. 

How can I select a single sku based off the option combination they chose. I 
tried a few different things with no luck. where tblskuoptions_rel in 
(24,37,59) didnt work. It pulls too many skus. I just need the one that matches 
the combination of options they chose. It could be just size. Or just color. Or 
both. 

Here's what I have right now. This selects way too much. 

select tblskuoptions_rel.optionID, tblskus.merchskuid
from tblskuoptions_rel, tblskus
where tblskuoptions_rel.optionskuid = tblskus.skuid
and option_optionid in ()
and tblskus.sku_prodid = 

Any help would be appreciated. 

Thanks!

Will








 



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RE: Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion?

[Will Swain]

>> Windows nn - Windows nn = still sucks. Although I hear Windows 7 sucks
less :)

That's not really rebranding though is it? The product is still called
Windows. 





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Re: Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion?

[Will Tomlinson]

"Ok, I'm now straying into OT area, but I must be the only who liked the idea 
of PRODUCT YEAR as a brand. Ie, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 2000. To me it 
was a very clear way to know the release of the version you are using."

This sounds perfect for Rick. Where's dave when we need'em??

:)




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Re: CF regex question [SOT]

[Will Tomlinson]

>Seems to work beautifully! Thanks!
>

As long as you don't have any variables/values with "cf" in them. hehehe..

  doesn't match. 

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Re: CF 9 Hosting

[Will Tomlinson]

>Anyone know any good, reasonable CF 9 hosting companies w/ mysql. 
>Thanks!

+ 1000 for viviotech. They rock. 

Will 

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RE: Error trapping

[Will Swain]

CF8+? Us the onError method in Application.cfc



-Original Message-
From: andy matthews [mailto:li...@commadelimited.com] 
Sent: 19 May 2010 02:22
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Error trapping


That probably means there's a coldfusion error in your error page. Try
removing all CF code and just put text on the page. See if that gets emailed
to you then slowly work back in your error logic.


andy

-Original Message-
From: Rick Sanders [mailto:c...@webenergy.ca] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 5:20 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Error trapping


Hey all,

 

I've tried using the cferror tag and having the error emailed to me but
instead it throws an http 500 error and the error doesn't get emailed.

 

What's the easiest way to have an error on a cfm page trapped, emailed, and
then redirected to an error page?

 

Thanks,

 

Rick

 

 








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RE: Software Recommendations

[Will Swain]

Are people generally preferring Mango to Ray's BlogCFC nowadays? I've done a
few blogs with blogCFC, but haven't tried Mango yet.

-Original Message-
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Sent: 13 May 2010 22:03
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Software Recommendations


Whats the plugin side of mura looking like?  Is there quite a few available
(from mura as well as outside developers) or is that still in its infant
steps?





From: Tom McNeer 
To: cf-talk 
Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 2:54:07 PM
Subject: Re: Software Recommendations


If you want to stay in the CF world for the Blog, I'd go with MangoBlog (

> http://www.mangoblog.org/) Don't know the developer, but they did a
> fantastic job. More apps should be this well built.
>

It's developed by Laura Arguello at ASFusion, developers of the terrific
Mate Flex framework.


>
> Ecom, can't say I've seen a CF powered one that really blows me away.


To be honest, even though I did - and do - suggest SiteDirector, it's not as
slick as the other two. But it does its job well.



-- 
Thanks,

Tom

Tom McNeer
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http://www.mediumcool.com
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Atlanta, GA 30306
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Re: Is CFGRID in CF9 solid enough for heavy use for CRUD functionality?

[Will Tomlinson]

> Playing with some CFGRID examples on ColdFusion 9, I noticed some 
> major slowdown without a lot of records being loaded.  Being on a 
> locally hosted server off my workstation that concerned me even more.


I like jqGrid. cfgrid bit me in the butt when I moved to Railo. jqGrid fixes 
that problem.  

http://www.trirand.com/jqgridwiki/doku.php?id=start

Will 

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Re: Anyone else have the latest CFBuilder crashing constantly?

[Will Tomlinson]

>I turned off Syntax Checking:
>Preferences > ColdFusion > Editor Profiles > Editor > Syntax Checking
>
>Turned off "Build Server Settings"
>Preferences > ColdFusion > Server Settings > Build Server Settings


I downloaded it, installed it, used it for about 20 minutes, and realized it 
was the most unintuitive pile of crap I've ever seen. 

It's like Adobe hired the Vista team to build it.  Jesus.

Will 

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RE: Anyone else have the latest CFBuilder crashing constantly?

[Will Swain]

Mine crashes 3-4 times a day. Often after a fair amount of copying and
pasting it seems.

It's quite annoying.

Win7 64bit

-Original Message-
From: Brandon [mailto:brandonregis...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 15 April 2010 16:04
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Anyone else have the latest CFBuilder crashing constantly?


I am also having the same problem on Win7 64-bit.  It eventually caused me
to go back to CFEcilpse.

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Jason Durham  wrote:

>
> I'm having the same problem on Win7 64-bit.  Build date of CFB shows Feb
> 27, 2010.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au]
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:59 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Anyone else have the latest CFBuilder crashing constantly?
>
>
> Cutting and pasting chews through memory very quickly, it was raised as a
> bug and Adobe just closed it straight away.
>
> Now that either means it is fixed or they are not going to fix it so let's
> see.
>
> But as I described to Adobe, I went from 77mb of heap space and after
> copying and pasting about 5 to 10 times from another file my heap space
had
> grown out to 250mb before ColdFusion Builder then crashed.
>
> There are a lot of memory leaks with ColdFusion Builder, that just ends up
> chewing through memory way to fast.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Austin [mailto:raust...@nc.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, 12 March 2010 2:51 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Anyone else have the latest CFBuilder crashing constantly?
>
>
>  For me, CFB beta 3 has been unstable to a point where I went
> back to text editors to get work done. There is a problem
> when I cut and paste a lot. Every paste would set off something
> in CFB which seemed to need to time out before it came back to
> life.
>  Also, there were problems when I would type a double
> quote and CFB would go numb on me for a while. I definitely
> had to watch the screen as I typed since I had no idea when it
> would go mental on me.
>  I ended up turning off all the "helpers" in the system
> which turns it into a fancy text editor and allows me to get
> work done. I sure hope they fix all these problems before it
> goes into production. I assumed that there would be another
> beta, but that may not happen.
>
>
>
>
> 



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RE: occasional issue with form fields not being passed.

[Will Swain]

Hi Steve,

That was my first thought, but they claim they are not doing this. I've
suggested they disable MacAfee and try again, and haven't heard back yet.
Hoping this will work.

Will

-Original Message-
From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) [mailto:sd1...@att.com] 
Sent: 01 April 2010 14:51
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: occasional issue with form fields not being passed.


Will,

I've generally found that when this happens it is because the user had a
bookmark to the submitted form. I generally have my forms return to the
empty form if no data was submitted.  Suddenly I was bombarded with log
entries about the file that deals with the submission was getting an
empty form structure and no referrer.  I remoted into one of the user's
desktops and watched as they clicked the bookmark... I then had them
show me the properties of the bookmark and found the offending entry!

Steve


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:34 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: occasional issue with form fields not being passed.


Hi,

 

Got a form with some hidden fields, that gets passed to an https page.
This
has been up and running and working for several years. Very very
occasionally the form scope that is passed is empty. Does anyone have
any
ideas how this could happen. I have a user who is insisting they clicked
the
button (submitted the form). Interestingly, the cgi.referer is blank
too.
Could MacAfee security centre cause this behaviour? Or a proxy server?
Their
browser is IE8. I've tried to recreate this behaviour but without any
joy.

 

Any ideas? I'm at a loss. 

 

Will







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RE: occasional issue with form fields not being passed.

[Will Swain]

Thanks Dave. My initial feeling was to get them to try a different browser
and switch off MacAfee (yuck). Will try that and see where we get to.

Cheers

Will

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: 31 March 2010 16:42
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: occasional issue with form fields not being passed.


> Got a form with some hidden fields, that gets passed to an https page.
This
> has been up and running and working for several years. Very very
> occasionally the form scope that is passed is empty. Does anyone have any
> ideas how this could happen. I have a user who is insisting they clicked
the
> button (submitted the form). Interestingly, the cgi.referer is blank too.
> Could MacAfee security centre cause this behaviour? Or a proxy server?
Their
> browser is IE8. I've tried to recreate this behaviour but without any joy.

There are lots of things that could cause problems like these. I'd
have the user in question try alternatives - disabling McAfee, using a
different browser, etc, and see what data you receive when they
attempt these alternatives using the getHttpRequestData function,
which will basically capture the raw data being received by CF.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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http://training.figleaf.com/

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occasional issue with form fields not being passed.

[Will Swain]

Hi,

 

Got a form with some hidden fields, that gets passed to an https page. This
has been up and running and working for several years. Very very
occasionally the form scope that is passed is empty. Does anyone have any
ideas how this could happen. I have a user who is insisting they clicked the
button (submitted the form). Interestingly, the cgi.referer is blank too.
Could MacAfee security centre cause this behaviour? Or a proxy server? Their
browser is IE8. I've tried to recreate this behaviour but without any joy.

 

Any ideas? I'm at a loss. 

 

Will



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RE: Whitespace markers in CF Builder

[Will Swain]

Ctrl + . toggles this on and off by default.

You can see this by clicking Window, Preferences, General, Keys.

I did it myself and it took me ages to figure that out.

HTH

Will

-Original Message-
From: Dorioo [mailto:dor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 30 March 2010 22:48
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Whitespace markers in CF Builder


This happened to me twice so I know your pain.

Unfortunately, the only "fix" I was able to find was to create a new
workspace. It seemed tied to the workspace as a new one made it go away but
using the existing one made it come back.

- Gabriel

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Scott Berry
wrote:

>
> Me too! Anyone?
>
> Maybe it's just me and the whole IDE that most developers are used to,
> maybe I'm just old fashioned, I don't know but I am really having a hard
> time getting used to CF"Builder"Eclipse... simple items like keypress
> combinations, color coding and other basic items that have been standard
in
> editors since CFStudio and earlier are either not easily modifiable or
> completely non-existent. So sad.
>
> >I pressed some key combination that added some whitespace markers. ">>"
> for
> >tabs (although smaller) and "\r\n" at the end of each line.
> >
> >Anyone know where the setting to turn this off is located?  Little
> annoying.
>
>
> 



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RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!

[Will Swain]

>> I wouldn't purchase it at this point unless it was at most $100 and maybe
even not then, because it just doesn't add any assistance to me in coding
beyond what I get with CFEclipse.

Seems to me that's the key line in your reply. From what you are saying,
it's not that CFBuilder isn't worth $300 to you. It's probably not worth
anything. Fair enough. I'm never going to start saying what IDE people
should or shouldn't use - it's whatever works for you, and if you can do
what you need to do in another IDE, good stuff. 

For other people, and I believe this applies to me, the cost of £170, which
is the ex VAT price here in the UK, will be quickly recovered in the
productivity gains over, say, 12/18 months. Like I said, that's between 2.5
and 4 hours for a lot of people in billing terms. In which case CFBuilder is
well worth it's price tag.

Whatever, here's hoping neither of us ever grow up to be 'big-boy' coders.
:D

Cheers

Will

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: 27 March 2010 14:02
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!


No...CFBuilder is no more useful to me than CFEclispe.  I just don't use the
extra functionality it brings.  And no, I couldn't work $300 faster in an
afternoon
with it...not any faster, actually.

But even so, I still have an opinion about its price, since I was waiting
for
its release and pricing, thinking that I might want to use it.  After
dealing
with E/CFE for a couple of years or so the idea of a standalone product is
appealing.

And yes, Adobe has every right to price it at whatever point they like,
whether I
think it's appropriate or not.

I, like others, was just surprised that it was that high...and yes, for the
*product*,
I think it's high.  Not that the price is too high for me to purchase.  I
wouldn't
purchase it at this point unless it was at most $100 and maybe even not
then, because
it just doesn't add any assistance to me in coding beyond what I get with
CFEclipse.

I don't use any of the more "high-end" functionality that's built into
CFBuilder.
I use it as a glorified text editor.  I don't want my editor handling my
database, I
prefer external software to do that, etc.

But maybe one day I'll grow up and be a big-boy coder and use all the
big-boy tools.

The only thing that I want from CFBuilder (and from CFEclipse at this point)
that doesn't
require an entirely new approach to an app for coding is manual,
state-maintaining code folding.
That's the only thing they both lack.

I would certainly pay $200, maybe *even* $300 eventually, to get that
functionality.
That would help my productivity in navigating code, running between HTML,
CF, jQuery,
and CSS constantly.

I would certainly build an entirely different type of editor
than what's available now from any vendor.  I would really like something
that
actually integrates the *coding process* of working with the HTML, CF,
jQuery, and
CSS I use constantly.  Since jQuery depends on the ID's and classes, as does
CSS,
I have to constantly refer to code in one place to write code in another.
Split windows
or second windows or second editors are just old-school.  I want intelligent
tools that
can be set up to provide information I need intuitively, when requested.  (I
hate functions
like code assist, that constantly popup and interfere with code entry.)

So I'd really like to use a tool that aids integrated *coding*
and not just integrated *tools*.  That would be worth $300 or more!

Rick

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RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!

[Will Swain]

It's not overpriced if they sell enough copies. Any product is worth what
people are willing to pay so I guess the proof of this will be in the
'pudding' - how many copies they sell.  But it's been mentioned before, and
should be mentioned again: Will CFBuilder add to your productivity more than
a half a day's work over the course of its lifetime? That's at least the
return you should hope to see on your investment. If the answer is yes, then
how can anyone suggest it's overpriced? If the answer is no, then don't buy
it. No problem, Adobe will carry on - you will carry on - all will be well.

Perhaps what I'm struggling with about your position is this: price aside
for a moment, is CFBuilder a product that you want to use? If the answer to
this question is NO, then any discussion on its pricing is superfluous. If
the answer is YES, then why? What will CFBuilder bring to your productivity
that makes it a tool you want to use?



-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: 27 March 2010 05:12
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!


> You said that it wasn't fair for Adobe to price CFB at $300

Now, I'm not going to spend time searching back through all the
messages to be 100% certain, but I highly doubt that I ever said
it was "unfair"...that wouldn't be correct.  I said it wasn't
"appropriate" pricing.

> That is a personal opinion that potential Apple customers shouldn't
> buy some of their products

Same thing I said about CFBuilder...the reasons are irrelevant.

> Your sole beef with CFB is that it's too expensive. Not that it's a
bad product

Not true.  There are many products that are more expensive that I think
are worth the cost.  My problem with CFBuilder is that it's "overpriced."
Big difference.

> Perhaps some minds are too simple to understand the distinction.

Ok...let's not get personal.  You started with the personal attacks and
I haven't participated.  Let's leave the personal attacks aside...they
don't contribute to the discussion whatsoever.  You've been going down
this road for the last few exchanges.  Let's not go there.

You're just beating up on Apple because of the way they've chosen to do
business...I'm doing the same thing with Adobe.

Rick


-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 5:41 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!


> I simply have said Adobe price CFB too high.

No, you said a lot more than that. You said that it wasn't fair for
Adobe to price CFB at $300, since Dreamweaver was around the same
amount and that was an "original work", and that this was an incentive
for you not to buy CFB even if it would make sense financially. You
mentioned "this is more of a moral argument than a financial one."

> I'm entitled to that advice, as you are to suggest
> that Apple's control of their product "sucks"...as if that,
> in a word, is not a personal opinion that Apple should change
> their business plan and customers should consider carefully
> before using the iPhone and supporting Apple's approach.

No, that is not a personal opinion that Apple should change anything.
That is a personal opinion that potential Apple customers shouldn't
buy some of their products, because they restrict what you can do with
them in arguably objectionable ways and because there are other
products that fill the same niche pretty well. Apple should certainly
not change their business plan on my account, because frankly it's a
pretty good plan.

Your sole beef with CFB is that it's too expensive. Not that it's a
bad product, or that it carries onerous restrictions. And you had the
same beef with CF - you argued on this very list for years about how
painful it would be to your precious wallet to upgrade.

And you're entitled, of course, to say whatever you like. Just as
others are entitled to criticize your statements. And vice-versa. But
again, some statements are logical, and others aren't.

> No difference to me...
>
> Apparently, you're looking for simple distinctions that
> exist only in your mind.
>
> Whatever, though...it's been fun, just have a great weekend, Dave! :o)

Perhaps some minds are too simple to understand the distinction. That
doesn't mean there isn't one, of course.

You have a great weekend too.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.





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RE: (ot) email confirm

[Will Swain]

Agreed with Bryn. Look at cfform, or if you don't want to for some reason,
look at something like jQuery's form validation plugins:

http://bassistance.de/jquery-plugins/jquery-plugin-validation/

Cheers

Will

-Original Message-
From: Bryn Parrott [mailto:bryn_parr...@internode.on.net] 
Sent: 27 March 2010 00:34
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: (ot) email confirm


> Sorry folks a little off topic here, but I'm not good at javascript.

> I have this email confirm code that tells me I need to enter a valid 
> email, but then still sends me to the next form which generates an 
> error because of no email address. 

> The problem seems to be in this section not stopping the submission so 
> that the user can enter a valid email

> ---
> if (goodEmail){
   
> good = true
> } else {
   
> alert('Please enter a valid e-mail address.')
   
> field.focus()
   
> field.select()
   
> good = false
  
> }
> }
> ---

> Any help appreciated.

> RO
> HWW

> The full code is below:

> var good;
> function checkEmailAddress(field) {


I gather that you are firing this function when the submit button on the
form  is clicked.
Assuming that to be the case, if the validation is OK, return TRUE from the
function call, and if the validation is incorrect, then return FALSE.  This
should stop the form from being submitted inappropriately.

But the other buy was right in regards CFForm, as that is a much simpler way
of handling the whole thing..

HTH
Bryn
Assumng that 



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RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!

[Will Swain]

ColdFusion Builder is available for a 60 day trial. 



-Original Message-
From: Eric Nicholas Sweeney [mailto:n...@bigfatdesigns.com] 
Sent: 24 March 2010 18:55
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!


Ray - Don't forget small business.  ;)

Some of us are 1 man shops who "try" to bring on extra manpower on a project
by project basis. And while we would like to try Flashbuilder or CFBuilder -
$300 can be a bit of tough justification. (What should the software budget
for a one man operation really be?)

In related thoughts - 30 day trials don't cut it for me either... They are
nice - but I will admit to being too busy to fully try something out in 30
days. (Too much "actual" work) So that really doesn't help me "try" the
software out... as I never have 30 continuous days to "play" with something.
(60-90 would be ideal)

I am not saying it's too much - or that you shouldn't have to pay to play -
- but I know I would have purchased FlexBuilder if it were cheaper. For some
reason - $300 seems to be my personal "well - shoot - I better really think
about this"

Especially after ponying up for the Adobe Master Collection - which upgrades
every 18 months - which of course doesn't include this software... But I
have already expressed my thoughts on that.

I will add - I like the bundle deal -- certainly gets me back to thinking
about purchasing it.  But I do likes my dreamweaver...

- Nick



-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:46 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!


300 bucks though? That's 6 XBox games. ;) Seriously though - if you
budget $$ for hardware I'd assume you also budget something for
software. I'd assume that types of folks who can't afford this are a)
students and b) recently laid off - both of whom can get it for free,
so problem solved.

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Eric Roberts
 wrote:
>
> Apparently not all of us make as much as you do Sean ;-)
>
> Eric
>





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RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!

[Will Swain]

A 1 year sub to Zend Studio with upgrades and support, a PHP IDE which looks
like a fairly equitable product in terms of functionality, sells for $399.

I haven't used it, so cannot comment on it's quality, and admittedly it does
appear to be a more mature product. But still. 

FWIW my opinion is that $99 would be too low. $299 isn't even a half days
work, so if builder make me more productive it's a no brainer. Will it save
me more than 4 hours time over it's lifetime? IMO it will.

Just my 2p worth

Will

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: 23 March 2010 15:22
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!


> FlashBuilder 
> 4 (Standard Edition) with CFBuilder costs $299, and FlashBuilder 4 
> (Standard Edition) without CFBuilder costs $249.  

I think this is evidence supporting my supposition that Adobe
has priced this product too high...$50, I think, would be low, $99
about right, but getting it, basically, for $50 if I agree to buy
FlashBuilder is an
indicator of what Adobe feels it's true value is, perhaps.

If they want to sell more licenses, give the IDE away and compete
more aggressively with those that use free tools and servers all the time.

Their shareholder's greed (which has been offered as the reason for the high
price of CFB several times) to make money at *every* turn
will be their downfall in the end.

We now have free CF servers (which I'd be using if I couldn't get a great
VPS
at a reasonable price)and free CF Coding tools which are, for me at least,
on par with CFB for the functionality I use.

When others start investing serious time and effort, if not money, into
developing
completing products that are offered for free to compete against
a company's offerings, that's an indication to me there's a problem with the
company
and what's it turning out.

I just can't figure out whether this bundling deal is an effort to get more
copies of FB or CB out the door.


-Original Message-
From: Eric Cobb [mailto:cft...@ecartech.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:57 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!


Charlie Griefer wrote:
"Bundling it with FlashBuilder may be their way of trying to increase the
uptake of the language as a whole and thus ultimately sell more server
licenses.  By doing this, they're potentially introducing CF to PHP
developers, Java developers, etc."

I have to say that I don't agree with that last statement.  FlashBuilder 
4 (Standard Edition) with CFBuilder costs $299, and FlashBuilder 4 
(Standard Edition) without CFBuilder costs $249.  So for an existing 
PHP/Flex developer who has no use for CF, do you think they're going to 
pay $299 to get an extra IDE for a language they don't use, or spend $50 
less and just get the IDE they need? 

thanks,

eric cobb
ecar technologies, llc
http://www.cfgears.com







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RE: CF8 cfselect ajax features - what am I missing?

[Will Swain]

First place I'd look is your query. Try spoofing it up outside the ajax
scenario, send it some values and see what comes back.

-Original Message-
From: James Milks [mailto:jamesmi...@noncubicle.com] 
Sent: 21 March 2010 12:16
To: cf-talk
Subject: CF8 cfselect ajax features - what am I missing?


Hi,
Have been away from CF for a long time. Retooling a site to use more modern
features and I would like to use the CFSELECT bind features to link to
select lists.

I followed the example by Forta on the Adobe site, but it is just not
working.  have uploaded a page with the code here:
http://www.sihrhockey.org/cfc_tester.cfm

Any help appreciated.

James 



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Re: time difference

[Will Tomlinson]

>actually
>I already have it:)
>just really sick of reading it at the moment. lots to absorb, short amount
>of time
>
>> Dave,
>>
CF is a lot to absorb chief!!  LOL!!! 

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Re: time difference

[Will Tomlinson]

> 2 ?'s
> I need to show a difference between to dates
> basically how much time is left between the ending date and now. can 
> cf do this or should I use a java script?
> 
> also, how do I use a Now() but add 3 hours to the output?
> server is 3 hours behind but I need to be the current time. I don't 
> think the java get current time will work because I need to retrieve 
> it from a db
> 
> lots o ?'s tonight
> why see below! haha
> 
> dave
> 
> 


My god. This still holds true today! Wanna chime in Rick???  LOL!!

Will


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Re: How do people transfer data between databases nowdays?

[Will Tomlinson]

>Now that my dev machine is being rebuilt, one of the things i have to
>do is work out if the way I've been doing things is still the best way
>of doing them.
>
>

+1 dbconvert.com. They have an amazing slick application there. I happen to use 
it to convert MSSQL > MySQL. Works like a charm. 

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RE: CF8 richtext cfextarea: remove styling from pasted txt?

[Will Swain]

I'm guessing it's a typo and he means the 'Paste from Word' function of the
richtext editor - it's a toolbar option.

-Original Message-
From: Paul H [mailto:p...@smashedvision.com] 
Sent: 03 March 2010 00:42
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF8 richtext cfextarea: remove styling from pasted txt?


Sorry Tony could you please clarify what you mean by "paste from work
function"? I'm not sure how to go about that. 
Thanks again. -Paul

-Original Message-
From: Tony Bentley [mailto:t...@tonybentley.com] 
Sent: March-02-10 7:16 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF8 richtext cfextarea: remove styling from pasted txt?


And still maintain links, bold italics, etc? Paste from work function and
check 'ignore font face definitions' and check 'remove styles definitions'.
Otherwise they can always first copy to notepad then copy from notepad to
the editor. 





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RE: Cleaning Microsoft .docx special chars

[Will Swain]

We use the built in richtext editor in cf8+ to handle pasting from Word, and
it seems to handle it very well. Might be an option. Just 'Paste from Word'
or 'Paste as plain text'

Will

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Pepperman [mailto:chorno...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 25 February 2010 08:58
To: cf-talk
Subject: Cleaning Microsoft .docx special chars


I just wondered if anyone else has seen this before, and I wanted to post
this to help anyone else that has this same issue.

We have an outsourced writer doing textual content for products in a site
that I work on.

The writer always supplies me with the content and I added it via a CMS.

It was always in Microsoft Word format, so I know to strip out special chars
using the DeMoronize UDF found at CFLIB, the function is built into the
CMS.

But recently he has been using a newer version of Word and giving me .docx
 files.

At first I didn't really notice, but recently some of the content has been
indexed by Google and since the text was used in Meta descriptions and the
page titles in places, I started seeing new &#xxx; chars that would not
render in Google that I didn't see before.

When rendered correct on our site, they look exactly like the "smart quotes"
and several other strange things like "..." etc..

The DeMoronize() UDF used to remove these with the chr(n) function, but
these look completely different and were missed by the UDF.

These are the new entities that I am seeing, they show up fine in UTF-8
HTML, but posting them to the CMS was adding them like this to MySql, and
Google would not render them in their results correct.

“ ” ’   ' … ™

The fix for DeMoronize() is simple.

Add these lines.

text = ReReplace(text, "&##8220;", """", "All");
 text = ReReplace(text, "&##8221;", """", "All");
text = ReReplace(text, "&##8217;", "'", "All");
 text = ReReplace(text, "&##160;", " ", "All");
text = ReReplace(text, "&##39;", "'", "All");
 text = ReReplace(text, "&##8230;", "...", "All");
text = ReReplace(text, "&##8482;", "™", "All");


Server notes:

The mySql tables, columns, connections and collation are all
utf-8_unicode_ci,

Application.cfc contains SetEncoding("form","utf-8");
SetEncoding("url","utf-8"); and I am using cfprocessingdirective
pageencoding="UTF-8"

Has anyone else seen this?

-- 
/Kevin Pepperman




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RE: House of Fusion moveover

[Will Swain]

Funny. We've implemented a policy that we never do ANYTHING on a Friday at
all. Safest way


-Original Message-
From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] 
Sent: 24 February 2010 17:39
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: House of Fusion moveover


> Is it just me, but arn't these sort of things best started at 4:30 on a
Friday afternoon, with no previous notice or preparation?

LOL. I hear that. We've actually implemented a policy that we NEVER do a
rollover on Fridays at all! 


Robert B. Harrison
Director of Interactive Services
Austin & Williams
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Hauppauge NY 11788
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http://www.austin-williams.com 

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RE: House of Fusion moveover

[Will Swain]

Good luck Michael, hope it goes smoothly. And thanks for all your work
keeping this list up and running.

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] 
Sent: 24 February 2010 16:26
To: cf-talk
Subject: House of Fusion moveover


Greg (AHPHosting.net) is giving me the option to move from my current
box to a 64bit windows with more power (by far). Of course, i'm taking
it. :)

 That being said, the site will be down for a few minutes tonight
while I upgrade everything to CF9 on 64bit. At the same time I'm
looking into moving all of my iMS stuff over to smartermail (part of
the package). I'll let everyone know how that goes as well.

Should be lots of fun. :)

--
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Re: Displaying Try/Catch Error message

[Will Wilker]

>When doing an output you need to then do an abort otherwise the application
>will continue to the next statement.

You're right. I did a  followed by a  and the messages are 
displaying, while the rest of the script is ignored. Works perfect. Thanks, 
everyone! 

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Re: Displaying Try/Catch Error message

[Will Wilker]

> > I am having an issue displaying my error message whenever my code 
> throws an error. It makes an HTTP request using GET to
> > access some XML, and if the status code is not 200 OK, then it 
> should catch that and display the error message. While the
> > request is being preformed, there is a "transition" page being 
> displayed to the user. The error-handling works, as I have used
> > Fiddler to verify the error and message, but the error content does 
> not show up in the browser. I am using ColdFusion MX7. Here
> > is the code:
> >
> > 
> > 
> >    
> >         value="deflate;q=0" />
> >        
> >          
> >        
> >    
> >    ...
> >    
> >       
> >         The search encountered error(s)
> >         #cfcatch.detail#
> >       
> >     
> > 
> > 
> 
> The variable CFHTTP.statusCode isn't available until after your 
> CFHTTP
> tag. You're using it within that tag.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
> 
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction 
at


Thanks, Dave. I fixed the code per your suggestion, but did not get a different 
result. I can still see the messages in Fiddler, even a ColdFusion error(I 
know, not good), but all the browser displays is the transition page. I think 
THAT is the real problem. Although the script throws errors, this page is still 
showing, and there is no event to load the page throwing the error. Does that 
make sense?

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Re: Displaying Try/Catch Error message

[Will Wilker]

Ignore the pre tags; they are not part of the code. 

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Displaying Try/Catch Error message

[Will Wilker]

I am having an issue displaying my error message whenever my code throws an 
error. It makes an HTTP request using GET to access some XML, and if the status 
code is not 200 OK, then it should catch that and display the error message. 
While the request is being preformed, there is a "transition" page being 
displayed to the user. The error-handling works, as I have used Fiddler to 
verify the error and message, but the error content does not show up in the 
browser. I am using ColdFusion MX7. Here is the code:




 

  


...

   
 The search encountered error(s)
 #cfcatch.detail#
   
 



Any ideas why my error messages are not being displayed?


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Re: jquery find/replace on an entire body DOM

[Will Tomlinson]

>It sounds like you're talking about jQuery manipulating jQuery code?
>

Andy, this seems to do the trick with grabbing my  code string. 

  var htmlStr =  $(':input').append($(':input').clone()).remove().html(); 

Thanks,
Will 

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Re: jquery find/replace on an entire body DOM

[Will Tomlinson]

>It sounds like you're talking about jQuery manipulating jQuery code?
>

Not in these cases. This is some legacy JS in our onclicks.They must remain, 
but they contain mappings that I need to do the exact same thing we did realier 
in the form action. The code to be manipulated looks somethin like this:



I need to grab that someController.someMapping part, just like the form action. 

I've tried different things, but JQ isn't grabbing it up so I can maniuplate 
it. 

Thanks for your help! 

Will 

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Re: jquery find/replace on an entire body DOM

[Will Tomlinson]

>Anything you could do to make jQuery have to do less work will be
>beneficial.
>

Andy,

This works great for form actions. I've played around with doing the exact same 
thing for any inputs with onclick attributes. But JQ doesn't seem to select up 
the value of the onclick. Do you have any ideas? 

Here's the form one that works. 

$(document).ready(function() {
  var regexp = /action=([a-zA-Z]+\.[a-zA-Z]+)/;  
  var value = $("form").attr('action');  
  var replaced = value.replace(regexp,'action=$1&cte=thompson');
  $("form").attr('action',replaced);  
});

Thanks!

Will 

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