A 1 year sub to Zend Studio with upgrades and support, a PHP IDE which looks
like a fairly equitable product in terms of functionality, sells for $399.

I haven't used it, so cannot comment on it's quality, and admittedly it does
appear to be a more mature product. But still. 

FWIW my opinion is that $99 would be too low. $299 isn't even a half days
work, so if builder make me more productive it's a no brainer. Will it save
me more than 4 hours time over it's lifetime? IMO it will.

Just my 2p worth

Will

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: 23 March 2010 15:22
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: ColdFusion Builder Released!


> FlashBuilder 
> 4 (Standard Edition) with CFBuilder costs $299, and FlashBuilder 4 
> (Standard Edition) without CFBuilder costs $249.  

I think this is evidence supporting my supposition that Adobe
has priced this product too high...$50, I think, would be low, $99
about right, but getting it, basically, for $50 if I agree to buy
FlashBuilder is an
indicator of what Adobe feels it's true value is, perhaps.

If they want to sell more licenses, give the IDE away and compete
more aggressively with those that use free tools and servers all the time.

Their shareholder's greed (which has been offered as the reason for the high
price of CFB several times) to make money at *every* turn
will be their downfall in the end.

We now have free CF servers (which I'd be using if I couldn't get a great
VPS
at a reasonable price)and free CF Coding tools which are, for me at least,
on par with CFB for the functionality I use.

When others start investing serious time and effort, if not money, into
developing
completing products that are offered for free to compete against
a company's offerings, that's an indication to me there's a problem with the
company
and what's it turning out.

I just can't figure out whether this bundling deal is an effort to get more
copies of FB or CB out the door.


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Cobb [mailto:cft...@ecartech.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:57 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!


Charlie Griefer wrote:
"Bundling it with FlashBuilder may be their way of trying to increase the
uptake of the language as a whole and thus ultimately sell more server
licenses.  By doing this, they're potentially introducing CF to PHP
developers, Java developers, etc."

I have to say that I don't agree with that last statement.  FlashBuilder 
4 (Standard Edition) with CFBuilder costs $299, and FlashBuilder 4 
(Standard Edition) without CFBuilder costs $249.  So for an existing 
PHP/Flex developer who has no use for CF, do you think they're going to 
pay $299 to get an extra IDE for a language they don't use, or spend $50 
less and just get the IDE they need? 

thanks,

eric cobb
ecar technologies, llc
http://www.cfgears.com







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