RE: Hiding email addresses
Hi Bobby,
I'm using the test.cfm page that came with the captcha download.
When I execute it I get: Unable to retrieve error message from backend ODBC
Driver.
I created the data source. The two fields are outputted in the form. I must
have missed something.
This is what I have:
cf_bhcaptcha datasource=capture datasourcetype=Access
imgurl=http://192.29.16.25/captcha/images;
imgpath=e:\inetpub\wwwroot\captcha\images action=initialize
imgtype=gif/
cf_bhcaptcha datasource=capture datasourcetype=Access
imgurl=http://192.29.16.25/captcha/images; stringlength=5,7 imgheight=25
hiddenkey=hKey keyfield=uKey
imgpath=e:\inetpub\wwwroot\captcha\images
action=captcha
imgtype=gif
cfoutput
form name=bhcapchatest action=test.cfm method=post
#bhcaptcha.imgStr#br
#bhcaptcha.fFields#
input type=submit name=submitit value=Check it /
/form
br
hr
cfif isdefined('form.uKey')
cfif hash(lcase(form.ukey)) is form.hKey
h3 style=color:green;Keys matched!/h3
cfelse
h3 style=color:red;Keys did not matched!/h3
/cfif
/cfif
/cfoutput
-Original Message-
From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 4:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject:RE: Hiding email addresses
What exactly do you mean that the 'test.cfm' won't display? Are you getting
some sort of error message?
To place the needed form fields and the images on the apge you will ened to
output these two variables.
bhcaptcha.imgStr
bhcaptcha.fFields
imgStr holds the html for the actual images in the captcha string and
fFields is of course the html for the needed form fields. Output Each where
you wan thtem displayed.
You should be able to find all the help you need with it here:
http://acoderslife.com/downloads/bhcaptcha/
Let me know if you still have any problems with it.
...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
-Original Message-
From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 2:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses
Hi Dennis,
I'm trying this bhcaptcha tag but am having some problems. The tests.cfm
won't display now. I revised the code as:
cf_bhcaptcha datasource=capture
datasourcetype=Access
imgurl=http://192.29.16.25/captcha/images;
imgpath=e:\inetpub\wwwroot\captcha\images
action=initialize
imgtype=gif/ ---
cf_bhcaptcha datasource=capture
datasourcetype=Access
imgurl=http://192.29.16.25/captcha/images;
stringlength=5,7
imgheight=25
hiddenkey=hKey
keyfield=uKey
imgpath=e:\inetpub\wwwroot\captcha\images
action=captcha
imgtype=gif
-Original Message-
From: Dennis Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject:RE: Hiding email addresses
I have several websites that were getting form-bot spam, at a rate of 60-100
a week. I added Bobby Hartsfield's bhcaptcha tag (http://acoderslife.com)
to the forms and haven't gotten one since.
There is absolutely nothing anyone can do about human spam because if you
keep the human from entering data then the form is useless. Unless you want
to apply full content filtering.
Best Regards,
Dennis Powers
UXB Internet - A website design and Hosting Company
690 Wolcott Road
P.O. Box 6029
Wolcott, CT 06716
Tel: (203)879-2844
http://www.uxbinternet.com/
http://www.uxb.net/
-Original Message-
From: Jason Rogoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Hiding email addresses
I have a client where I setup a contact form that emails them the results of
a form submission. They are claiming they are receiving more spam now since
bots are reading the email address in the page. They have asked me if there
is a way to hide the email address better...does anyone have any ideas?
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Sorry Bobby forgot to include the code in my last email where the error is generated from: Robert O. HWW 287 : trips to the database. So im grabbing all and doing a QoQ for the single records (sorry 4.5 guys :) --- 288 : cfquery name=allimgs datasource=#datasource# 289 : select letter, imagefile from #tablename# (this line is highlighted as a problem) 290 : order by letter 291 : /cfquery -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 4:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject:RE: Hiding email addresses What exactly do you mean that the 'test.cfm' won't display? Are you getting some sort of error message? To place the needed form fields and the images on the apge you will ened to output these two variables. bhcaptcha.imgStr bhcaptcha.fFields imgStr holds the html for the actual images in the captcha string and fFields is of course the html for the needed form fields. Output Each where you wan thtem displayed. You should be able to find all the help you need with it here: http://acoderslife.com/downloads/bhcaptcha/ Let me know if you still have any problems with it. ...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 2:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Hi Dennis, I'm trying this bhcaptcha tag but am having some problems. The tests.cfm won't display now. I revised the code as: cf_bhcaptcha datasource=capture datasourcetype=Access imgurl=http://192.29.16.25/captcha/images; imgpath=e:\inetpub\wwwroot\captcha\images action=initialize imgtype=gif/ --- cf_bhcaptcha datasource=capture datasourcetype=Access imgurl=http://192.29.16.25/captcha/images; stringlength=5,7 imgheight=25 hiddenkey=hKey keyfield=uKey imgpath=e:\inetpub\wwwroot\captcha\images action=captcha imgtype=gif -Original Message- From: Dennis Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject:RE: Hiding email addresses I have several websites that were getting form-bot spam, at a rate of 60-100 a week. I added Bobby Hartsfield's bhcaptcha tag (http://acoderslife.com) to the forms and haven't gotten one since. There is absolutely nothing anyone can do about human spam because if you keep the human from entering data then the form is useless. Unless you want to apply full content filtering. Best Regards, Dennis Powers UXB Internet - A website design and Hosting Company 690 Wolcott Road P.O. Box 6029 Wolcott, CT 06716 Tel: (203)879-2844 http://www.uxbinternet.com/ http://www.uxb.net/ -Original Message- From: Jason Rogoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Hiding email addresses I have a client where I setup a contact form that emails them the results of a form submission. They are claiming they are receiving more spam now since bots are reading the email address in the page. They have asked me if there is a way to hide the email address better...does anyone have any ideas? ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:262790 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
It sounds like a problem with the database. Try opening the database and making sure the table exists. If it does, try running something simple against it like Select * from #tablename# and see what happens. Also... You will want to run the initialize action ONE TIME ONLY on a database. With your code, you are running it every time the page is executed. Starting from scratch you would: 1) Remove all of the tables the tag created (if any) 2) run the tag with the initialize action ONE TIME ONLY. 3) ensure the tables were created 3) change the action to captcha It should be set after that. Let me know how it goes. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 3:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Sorry Bobby forgot to include the code in my last email where the error is generated from: Robert O. HWW 287 : trips to the database. So im grabbing all and doing a QoQ for the single records (sorry 4.5 guys :) --- 288 : cfquery name=allimgs datasource=#datasource# 289 : select letter, imagefile from #tablename# (this line is highlighted as a problem) 290 : order by letter 291 : /cfquery -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 4:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject:RE: Hiding email addresses What exactly do you mean that the 'test.cfm' won't display? Are you getting some sort of error message? To place the needed form fields and the images on the apge you will ened to output these two variables. bhcaptcha.imgStr bhcaptcha.fFields imgStr holds the html for the actual images in the captcha string and fFields is of course the html for the needed form fields. Output Each where you wan thtem displayed. You should be able to find all the help you need with it here: http://acoderslife.com/downloads/bhcaptcha/ Let me know if you still have any problems with it. :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 2:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Hi Dennis, I'm trying this bhcaptcha tag but am having some problems. The tests.cfm won't display now. I revised the code as: cf_bhcaptcha datasource=capture datasourcetype=Access imgurl=http://192.29.16.25/captcha/images; imgpath=e:\inetpub\wwwroot\captcha\images action=initialize imgtype=gif/ --- cf_bhcaptcha datasource=capture datasourcetype=Access imgurl=http://192.29.16.25/captcha/images; stringlength=5,7 imgheight=25 hiddenkey=hKey keyfield=uKey imgpath=e:\inetpub\wwwroot\captcha\images action=captcha imgtype=gif -Original Message- From: Dennis Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject:RE: Hiding email addresses I have several websites that were getting form-bot spam, at a rate of 60-100 a week. I added Bobby Hartsfield's bhcaptcha tag (http://acoderslife.com) to the forms and haven't gotten one since. There is absolutely nothing anyone can do about human spam because if you keep the human from entering data then the form is useless. Unless you want to apply full content filtering. Best Regards, Dennis Powers UXB Internet - A website design and Hosting Company 690 Wolcott Road P.O. Box 6029 Wolcott, CT 06716 Tel: (203)879-2844 http://www.uxbinternet.com/ http://www.uxb.net/ -Original Message- From: Jason Rogoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Hiding email addresses I have a client where I setup a contact form that emails them the results of a form submission. They are claiming they are receiving more spam now since bots are reading the email address in the page. They have asked me if there is a way to hide the email address better...does anyone have any ideas? ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:262809 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists
RE: Hiding email addresses
Munson, Jacob Said: Here's a link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/thread.cfm/threadid:48461#258090 It's a pretty good system, but requires a lot of work on your part. She makes has some interesting solutions to the problem and I even played with most of them, Blacklist, timed session variables and such, however they are solutions based on a premise that as much as I'd like to believe in, in truth don't. Sandra Clark said Although both Captcha's and Human Auth tags are understandable in the context of being bombarded by spam, I don't think its fair to require our users to prove they are human. This is a philosophical difference and not a denigration of her solutions. You see in the real world we never have to prove we are human because it is evident by our very presence and faking humanity in the real world is a huge technical feat unattainable by the average person - ex wives/husbands beliefs to the contrary. However the network is virtual and filled with various levels of robots and programs - every host every router has a program. Although the programs for the most part due our bidding, humans are in essence visitors and minorities within the net. Sandra's perfectly valid solutions assume it is not fair to ask humans if they are humans and yet in the real world we still ask them to identify which specific human. I on the other hand feel it is perfectly acceptable to ask for identification, in this case human identification and not always which specific one. But I think too much. Best Regards, Dennis Powers UXB Internet - A website design and Hosting Company 690 Wolcott Road P.O. Box 6029 Wolcott, CT 06716 Tel: (203)879-2844 http://www.uxbinternet.com/ http://www.uxb.net/ -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Where can I read more about her system? I tried IP blocking but it became much to cumbersome to maintain. I am always interested in eliminating spam of any kind. Here's a link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/thread.cfm/threadid:48461#258090 It's a pretty good system, but requires a lot of work on your part. I'm almost ready to release an updated CFFormProtect that should offer these benefits: 1. Accessible. It won't block the blind folks 2. Fully automated. 3. Invisible to the user 4. Stops both bots and spam manually entered by humans 5. Easy to install/configure At least, those are my goals, and I /think/ I've achieved them. We'll see after I release it if people see any problems in my methods. I don't want to spill the beans yet, but I'm hoping to make an announcement later today. EMF idahopower.com made the following annotations. -- This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. == ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:262476 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
Hi Dennis, I'm trying this bhcaptcha tag but am having some problems. The tests.cfm won't display now. I revised the code as: cf_bhcaptcha datasource=capture datasourcetype=Access imgurl=http://192.29.16.25/captcha/images; imgpath=e:\inetpub\wwwroot\captcha\images action=initialize imgtype=gif/ --- cf_bhcaptcha datasource=capture datasourcetype=Access imgurl=http://192.29.16.25/captcha/images; stringlength=5,7 imgheight=25 hiddenkey=hKey keyfield=uKey imgpath=e:\inetpub\wwwroot\captcha\images action=captcha imgtype=gif -Original Message- From: Dennis Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject:RE: Hiding email addresses I have several websites that were getting form-bot spam, at a rate of 60-100 a week. I added Bobby Hartsfield's bhcaptcha tag (http://acoderslife.com) to the forms and haven't gotten one since. There is absolutely nothing anyone can do about human spam because if you keep the human from entering data then the form is useless. Unless you want to apply full content filtering. Best Regards, Dennis Powers UXB Internet - A website design and Hosting Company 690 Wolcott Road P.O. Box 6029 Wolcott, CT 06716 Tel: (203)879-2844 http://www.uxbinternet.com/ http://www.uxb.net/ -Original Message- From: Jason Rogoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Hiding email addresses I have a client where I setup a contact form that emails them the results of a form submission. They are claiming they are receiving more spam now since bots are reading the email address in the page. They have asked me if there is a way to hide the email address better...does anyone have any ideas? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:262497 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
What exactly do you mean that the 'test.cfm' won't display? Are you getting some sort of error message? To place the needed form fields and the images on the apge you will ened to output these two variables. bhcaptcha.imgStr bhcaptcha.fFields imgStr holds the html for the actual images in the captcha string and fFields is of course the html for the needed form fields. Output Each where you wan thtem displayed. You should be able to find all the help you need with it here: http://acoderslife.com/downloads/bhcaptcha/ Let me know if you still have any problems with it. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Orlini, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 2:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Hi Dennis, I'm trying this bhcaptcha tag but am having some problems. The tests.cfm won't display now. I revised the code as: cf_bhcaptcha datasource=capture datasourcetype=Access imgurl=http://192.29.16.25/captcha/images; imgpath=e:\inetpub\wwwroot\captcha\images action=initialize imgtype=gif/ --- cf_bhcaptcha datasource=capture datasourcetype=Access imgurl=http://192.29.16.25/captcha/images; stringlength=5,7 imgheight=25 hiddenkey=hKey keyfield=uKey imgpath=e:\inetpub\wwwroot\captcha\images action=captcha imgtype=gif -Original Message- From: Dennis Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject:RE: Hiding email addresses I have several websites that were getting form-bot spam, at a rate of 60-100 a week. I added Bobby Hartsfield's bhcaptcha tag (http://acoderslife.com) to the forms and haven't gotten one since. There is absolutely nothing anyone can do about human spam because if you keep the human from entering data then the form is useless. Unless you want to apply full content filtering. Best Regards, Dennis Powers UXB Internet - A website design and Hosting Company 690 Wolcott Road P.O. Box 6029 Wolcott, CT 06716 Tel: (203)879-2844 http://www.uxbinternet.com/ http://www.uxb.net/ -Original Message- From: Jason Rogoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Hiding email addresses I have a client where I setup a contact form that emails them the results of a form submission. They are claiming they are receiving more spam now since bots are reading the email address in the page. They have asked me if there is a way to hide the email address better...does anyone have any ideas? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:262513 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
Seriously? You think it's fine to ask a user to enter information proving that they are in fact human when there are ways to make the fact that you are even checking anything invisible to them? I'd much rather have the system decide rather than have the user jump through unnecessary hoops if at all possible. I'll admit, Sandra's methods take some extra work on the part of the admin but at a global level (meaning that all the info be accessible by all applications within the server/cluster) I'd say it's worth maintaining. I'd much rather stop a ton of spam from going through my clients contact form before it happens rather than have them bombarded with spam one day just to ask me to do it anyway. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Dennis Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 1:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Munson, Jacob Said: Here's a link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/thread.cfm/threadid:48461#258090 It's a pretty good system, but requires a lot of work on your part. She makes has some interesting solutions to the problem and I even played with most of them, Blacklist, timed session variables and such, however they are solutions based on a premise that as much as I'd like to believe in, in truth don't. Sandra Clark said Although both Captcha's and Human Auth tags are understandable in the context of being bombarded by spam, I don't think its fair to require our users to prove they are human. This is a philosophical difference and not a denigration of her solutions. You see in the real world we never have to prove we are human because it is evident by our very presence and faking humanity in the real world is a huge technical feat unattainable by the average person - ex wives/husbands beliefs to the contrary. However the network is virtual and filled with various levels of robots and programs - every host every router has a program. Although the programs for the most part due our bidding, humans are in essence visitors and minorities within the net. Sandra's perfectly valid solutions assume it is not fair to ask humans if they are humans and yet in the real world we still ask them to identify which specific human. I on the other hand feel it is perfectly acceptable to ask for identification, in this case human identification and not always which specific one. But I think too much. Best Regards, Dennis Powers UXB Internet - A website design and Hosting Company 690 Wolcott Road P.O. Box 6029 Wolcott, CT 06716 Tel: (203)879-2844 http://www.uxbinternet.com/ http://www.uxb.net/ -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Where can I read more about her system? I tried IP blocking but it became much to cumbersome to maintain. I am always interested in eliminating spam of any kind. Here's a link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/thread.cfm/threadid:48461#258090 It's a pretty good system, but requires a lot of work on your part. I'm almost ready to release an updated CFFormProtect that should offer these benefits: 1. Accessible. It won't block the blind folks 2. Fully automated. 3. Invisible to the user 4. Stops both bots and spam manually entered by humans 5. Easy to install/configure At least, those are my goals, and I /think/ I've achieved them. We'll see after I release it if people see any problems in my methods. I don't want to spill the beans yet, but I'm hoping to make an announcement later today. EMF idahopower.com made the following annotations. -- This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. == ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:262516 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
Actually now that the original system is in place it takes very little work on a daily or even weekly basis. The only area that involves more effort than I like is when I blacklist someone (by clicking a link in an email), I still have to add any words to my list manually. I'm going to change that so that when I blacklist someone the page offers me a way to also add in a word or words at that time. How much extra work is involved? Not much... Premises 1) Person is already whitelisted (nothing to do on my end) 2) Post comes from form from someone new. Post does not show up on the page until I see it. I get an email with their comment and 2 links. With those two links I can either Whitelist them, in which case,their post shows up and future posts on their part go to item 1 above and no further action is necessary Blacklist them in which case, their information goes to a db blacklist and the post is removed. 3) Post doesn't come from my form. Person is immediately blacklisted and nothing shows up. 4) Person is blacklisted, nothing shows up. The only place I have to be involved is in Premise 2 and its merely looking at the comment and clicking a link. Once I change the system to accommodate on the fly additions to the bad word list, it should be even easier. Yes its not set it and forget it, but I don't want to not know who is posting to my blog. In fact I have every post that is whitelisted come to me as well as part of a subscription. It doesn't take that much work or time and it has been very successful in terms of stopping the spam and not being apparent to anyone out there. Ok, there was one glitch a few weeks ago. The email addresses I have stuff going to (including the blacklist/whitelist) were inadverdently deleted and stuff got into the system since I was posting first and removing on a blacklist. Once I figured out why and cleaned out the db and changed to not showing a new posters stuff until I whitelist them, its been a pleasure to work with. I think we as developers are the ones that need to handle the complexity. Our users should not have to think when using our sites, that's our job. Sandra Clark == http://www.shayna.com Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility -Original Message- I'll admit, Sandra's methods take some extra work on the part of the admin but at a global level (meaning that all the info be accessible by all applications within the server/cluster) I'd say it's worth maintaining. ...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:262538 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
I'll admit, Sandra's methods take some extra work on the part of the admin but at a global level As I said I am not disputing her methods because they are one way of combating what is essentially morally deficient human beings who wrote a program specifically to act improperly. However, block lists are after the fact and a moving target not to say time consuming, which is why I gave up on BOT blacklists. They took too much time to maintain and were constantly letting stuff through. Something Sandra implied in her solutions. Time sensitive variables do not always allow for human action or more directly INaction. The two systems combined are one solution that I am sure works well. I'd much rather have the system decide rather than have the user jump through unnecessary hoops if at all possible I agree I would too, but automated systems do not always correctly identify a human from a bot. I also admit that the human identification methods like answering one question or a capatcha are also fallible but usually due to human error, no pun intended. Seriously? You think it's fine to ask a user to enter information proving that they are in fact human Depending on the potential harm/problems/inconvenience having a bot's answers I do think it is just as acceptable as asking for personal identification in the real world. Best Regards, Dennis Powers UXB Internet - A website design and Hosting Company 690 Wolcott Road P.O. Box 6029 Wolcott, CT 06716 Tel: (203)879-2844 http://www.uxbinternet.com/ http://www.uxb.net/ -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 4:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Seriously? You think it's fine to ask a user to enter information proving that they are in fact human when there are ways to make the fact that you are even checking anything invisible to them? I'd much rather have the system decide rather than have the user jump through unnecessary hoops if at all possible. I'll admit, Sandra's methods take some extra work on the part of the admin but at a global level (meaning that all the info be accessible by all applications within the server/cluster) I'd say it's worth maintaining. I'd much rather stop a ton of spam from going through my clients contact form before it happens rather than have them bombarded with spam one day just to ask me to do it anyway. ...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Dennis Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 1:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Munson, Jacob Said: Here's a link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/thread.cfm/threadid:48461#258090 It's a pretty good system, but requires a lot of work on your part. She makes has some interesting solutions to the problem and I even played with most of them, Blacklist, timed session variables and such, however they are solutions based on a premise that as much as I'd like to believe in, in truth don't. Sandra Clark said Although both Captcha's and Human Auth tags are understandable in the context of being bombarded by spam, I don't think its fair to require our users to prove they are human. This is a philosophical difference and not a denigration of her solutions. You see in the real world we never have to prove we are human because it is evident by our very presence and faking humanity in the real world is a huge technical feat unattainable by the average person - ex wives/husbands beliefs to the contrary. However the network is virtual and filled with various levels of robots and programs - every host every router has a program. Although the programs for the most part due our bidding, humans are in essence visitors and minorities within the net. Sandra's perfectly valid solutions assume it is not fair to ask humans if they are humans and yet in the real world we still ask them to identify which specific human. I on the other hand feel it is perfectly acceptable to ask for identification, in this case human identification and not always which specific one. But I think too much. Best Regards, Dennis Powers UXB Internet - A website design and Hosting Company 690 Wolcott Road P.O. Box 6029 Wolcott, CT 06716 Tel: (203)879-2844 http://www.uxbinternet.com/ http://www.uxb.net/ -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Where can I read more about her system? I tried IP blocking but it became much to cumbersome to maintain. I am always interested in eliminating spam of any kind. Here's a link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/thread.cfm/threadid:48461#258090 It's a pretty good system, but requires a lot of work on your part. I'm almost ready to release an updated CFFormProtect that should offer these benefits
RE: Hiding email addresses
Where can I read more about her system? I tried IP blocking but it became much to cumbersome to maintain. I am always interested in eliminating spam of any kind. Here's a link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/thread.cfm/threadid:48461#25 8090 It's a pretty good system, but requires a lot of work on your part. I'm almost ready to release an updated CFFormProtect that should offer these benefits: 1. Accessible. It won't block the blind folks 2. Fully automated. 3. Invisible to the user 4. Stops both bots and spam manually entered by humans 5. Easy to install/configure At least, those are my goals, and I /think/ I've achieved them. We'll see after I release it if people see any problems in my methods. I don't want to spill the beans yet, but I'm hoping to make an announcement later today. EMF idahopower.com made the following annotations. -- This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. == ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:261876 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
Convert the email to it's ascii equivalent for the source. So instand of a b, or what have you, have #XXX; where XXX is the ascii number of the character. This makes for strange Source Code, but the browser renders it properly. Sure, spam bots can still find patterns, but in my experience, they are not that smart yet. .. Ben Nadel Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com Need ColdFusion Help? www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/ -Original Message- From: Jason Rogoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Hiding email addresses I have a client where I setup a contact form that emails them the results of a form submission. They are claiming they are receiving more spam now since bots are reading the email address in the page. They have asked me if there is a way to hide the email address better...does anyone have any ideas? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:261729 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
Not enough info. Do you really have the email address exposed in the form somewhere? If not, maybe they're getting spam from the form (spam bots)? If it's the latter, you should do something to protect the form. I used to suggest CAPTCHA, but now there are more accessible methods. Ben Nadel has a method he blogged about, and I'm working on an upgraded version of CFFormProtect that will be fully accessible. Unfortunately it's not ready yet. :( -Original Message- From: Jason Rogoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:54 AM I have a client where I setup a contact form that emails them the results of a form submission. They are claiming they are receiving more spam now since bots are reading the email address in the page. They have asked me if there is a way to hide the email address better...does anyone have any ideas? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:261730 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
Jacob, Also, I have gotten several spam form submissions since my new implementation :( I am going to try and upgrade it to incorporate an idea similar to Michael Dinowitz's... But not quite as complicated as his (IMO). http://www.blogoffusion.com/index.cfm/2006/11/21/AntiForm-Spam-code-test We shall see. From Michael's blog, it looks like he has had good success with it. .. Ben Nadel Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com Need ColdFusion Help? www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/ -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Not enough info. Do you really have the email address exposed in the form somewhere? If not, maybe they're getting spam from the form (spam bots)? If it's the latter, you should do something to protect the form. I used to suggest CAPTCHA, but now there are more accessible methods. Ben Nadel has a method he blogged about, and I'm working on an upgraded version of CFFormProtect that will be fully accessible. Unfortunately it's not ready yet. :( -Original Message- From: Jason Rogoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:54 AM I have a client where I setup a contact form that emails them the results of a form submission. They are claiming they are receiving more spam now since bots are reading the email address in the page. They have asked me if there is a way to hide the email address better...does anyone have any ideas? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:261732 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
Well crap... so the hidden field method is letting spam through now? ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Jacob, Also, I have gotten several spam form submissions since my new implementation :( I am going to try and upgrade it to incorporate an idea similar to Michael Dinowitz's... But not quite as complicated as his (IMO). http://www.blogoffusion.com/index.cfm/2006/11/21/AntiForm-Spam-code-test We shall see. From Michael's blog, it looks like he has had good success with it. ... Ben Nadel Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com Need ColdFusion Help? www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/ -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Not enough info. Do you really have the email address exposed in the form somewhere? If not, maybe they're getting spam from the form (spam bots)? If it's the latter, you should do something to protect the form. I used to suggest CAPTCHA, but now there are more accessible methods. Ben Nadel has a method he blogged about, and I'm working on an upgraded version of CFFormProtect that will be fully accessible. Unfortunately it's not ready yet. :( -Original Message- From: Jason Rogoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:54 AM I have a client where I setup a contact form that emails them the results of a form submission. They are claiming they are receiving more spam now since bots are reading the email address in the page. They have asked me if there is a way to hide the email address better...does anyone have any ideas? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:261736 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
Well, Here's the thing. For some reason, I only seem to get spam submissions on the weekend. Normally, I would not have made anything of this, but someone recently pointed out that sometimes spam form submissions are made BY people (not bots). I don't know what kind of person does this, but this would fit into the weekend-only model. Also, there is nothing about my form that is time-dependent. What I like about Dinowitz's solution is that a cached form structure will not work for re-submission after a certain amount of time. I think a combination of the two should be good. We shall see. However, just to reiterate, my spam submissions are minimal! Only like a 6 or so over the past two weeks. .. Ben Nadel Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com Need ColdFusion Help? www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/ -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Well crap... so the hidden field method is letting spam through now? ...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Jacob, Also, I have gotten several spam form submissions since my new implementation :( I am going to try and upgrade it to incorporate an idea similar to Michael Dinowitz's... But not quite as complicated as his (IMO). http://www.blogoffusion.com/index.cfm/2006/11/21/AntiForm-Spam-code-test We shall see. From Michael's blog, it looks like he has had good success with it. Ben Nadel Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com Need ColdFusion Help? www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/ -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Not enough info. Do you really have the email address exposed in the form somewhere? If not, maybe they're getting spam from the form (spam bots)? If it's the latter, you should do something to protect the form. I used to suggest CAPTCHA, but now there are more accessible methods. Ben Nadel has a method he blogged about, and I'm working on an upgraded version of CFFormProtect that will be fully accessible. Unfortunately it's not ready yet. :( -Original Message- From: Jason Rogoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:54 AM I have a client where I setup a contact form that emails them the results of a form submission. They are claiming they are receiving more spam now since bots are reading the email address in the page. They have asked me if there is a way to hide the email address better...does anyone have any ideas? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:261738 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
Yeah, there has apparently been a rise in spammers paying the poor to submit forms for them. It was actually on Slashdot a couple days ago I think. If that becomes an increasing problem, we'll all be moving to Sandra's white/black lists method and working twice as hard to keep crap out of our databases. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:15 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Well, Here's the thing. For some reason, I only seem to get spam submissions on the weekend. Normally, I would not have made anything of this, but someone recently pointed out that sometimes spam form submissions are made BY people (not bots). I don't know what kind of person does this, but this would fit into the weekend-only model. Also, there is nothing about my form that is time-dependent. What I like about Dinowitz's solution is that a cached form structure will not work for re-submission after a certain amount of time. I think a combination of the two should be good. We shall see. However, just to reiterate, my spam submissions are minimal! Only like a 6 or so over the past two weeks. ... Ben Nadel Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com Need ColdFusion Help? www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/ -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Well crap... so the hidden field method is letting spam through now? :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Jacob, Also, I have gotten several spam form submissions since my new implementation :( I am going to try and upgrade it to incorporate an idea similar to Michael Dinowitz's... But not quite as complicated as his (IMO). http://www.blogoffusion.com/index.cfm/2006/11/21/AntiForm-Spam-code-test We shall see. From Michael's blog, it looks like he has had good success with it. . Ben Nadel Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com Need ColdFusion Help? www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/ -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Not enough info. Do you really have the email address exposed in the form somewhere? If not, maybe they're getting spam from the form (spam bots)? If it's the latter, you should do something to protect the form. I used to suggest CAPTCHA, but now there are more accessible methods. Ben Nadel has a method he blogged about, and I'm working on an upgraded version of CFFormProtect that will be fully accessible. Unfortunately it's not ready yet. :( -Original Message- From: Jason Rogoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:54 AM I have a client where I setup a contact form that emails them the results of a form submission. They are claiming they are receiving more spam now since bots are reading the email address in the page. They have asked me if there is a way to hide the email address better...does anyone have any ideas? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:261739 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
Is the email address located as hidden field in the form itself? Or are you placing the email into the processing portion of the page? Putting the email as a hidden field is a HGUE no-no as spam-bots read that in a heartbeat. !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Jason Rogoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Hiding email addresses I have a client where I setup a contact form that emails them the results of a form submission. They are claiming they are receiving more spam now since bots are reading the email address in the page. They have asked me if there is a way to hide the email address better...does anyone have any ideas? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:261740 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
the email address is sitting on a processing page that also sends the email -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Is the email address located as hidden field in the form itself? Or are you placing the email into the processing portion of the page? Putting the email as a hidden field is a HGUE no-no as spam-bots read that in a heartbeat. !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Jason Rogoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Hiding email addresses I have a client where I setup a contact form that emails them the results of a form submission. They are claiming they are receiving more spam now since bots are reading the email address in the page. They have asked me if there is a way to hide the email address better...does anyone have any ideas? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:261741 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
Putting the address anywhere in the source code in it's original format is just making it easy for someone to read it. The best thing you can do for them is to put a form that submits to the email address rather than giving a mailto: link to the address. That way it is never seen. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses Is the email address located as hidden field in the form itself? Or are you placing the email into the processing portion of the page? Putting the email as a hidden field is a HGUE no-no as spam-bots read that in a heartbeat. !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Jason Rogoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Hiding email addresses I have a client where I setup a contact form that emails them the results of a form submission. They are claiming they are receiving more spam now since bots are reading the email address in the page. They have asked me if there is a way to hide the email address better...does anyone have any ideas? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:261742 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
I have several websites that were getting form-bot spam, at a rate of 60-100 a week. I added Bobby Hartsfield's bhcaptcha tag (http://acoderslife.com) to the forms and haven't gotten one since. There is absolutely nothing anyone can do about human spam because if you keep the human from entering data then the form is useless. Unless you want to apply full content filtering. Best Regards, Dennis Powers UXB Internet - A website design and Hosting Company 690 Wolcott Road P.O. Box 6029 Wolcott, CT 06716 Tel: (203)879-2844 http://www.uxbinternet.com/ http://www.uxb.net/ -Original Message- From: Jason Rogoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Hiding email addresses I have a client where I setup a contact form that emails them the results of a form submission. They are claiming they are receiving more spam now since bots are reading the email address in the page. They have asked me if there is a way to hide the email address better...does anyone have any ideas? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:261754 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
There is absolutely nothing anyone can do about human spam because if you keep the human from entering data then the form is useless. Unless you want to apply full content filtering. Exactly... which is what Sandra does and it sounds like a fool-proof system. It's just more work... Glad you liked bhcaptcha too :-) ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Dennis Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses I have several websites that were getting form-bot spam, at a rate of 60-100 a week. I added Bobby Hartsfield's bhcaptcha tag (http://acoderslife.com) to the forms and haven't gotten one since. There is absolutely nothing anyone can do about human spam because if you keep the human from entering data then the form is useless. Unless you want to apply full content filtering. Best Regards, Dennis Powers UXB Internet - A website design and Hosting Company 690 Wolcott Road P.O. Box 6029 Wolcott, CT 06716 Tel: (203)879-2844 http://www.uxbinternet.com/ http://www.uxb.net/ -Original Message- From: Jason Rogoz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Hiding email addresses I have a client where I setup a contact form that emails them the results of a form submission. They are claiming they are receiving more spam now since bots are reading the email address in the page. They have asked me if there is a way to hide the email address better...does anyone have any ideas? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:261788 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
which is what Sandra does and it sounds like a fool-proof system. Where can I read more about her system? I tried IP blocking but it became much to cumbersome to maintain. I am always interested in eliminating spam of any kind. Glad you liked bhcaptcha too :-) I'm a CF5'er and it fit nicely into my forms and best of all it worked! I see you have a version 2 out now. I'll be checking it out. Thanks for the tag. Best Regards, Dennis Powers UXB Internet - A website design and Hosting Company 690 Wolcott Road P.O. Box 6029 Wolcott, CT 06716 Tel: (203)879-2844 http://www.uxbinternet.com/ http://www.uxb.net/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:261799 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Hiding email addresses
I've only seen her talk about it on the list. It wasn't long ago that she detailed it pretty well in a thread here so check the archives. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Dennis Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hiding email addresses which is what Sandra does and it sounds like a fool-proof system. Where can I read more about her system? I tried IP blocking but it became much to cumbersome to maintain. I am always interested in eliminating spam of any kind. Glad you liked bhcaptcha too :-) I'm a CF5'er and it fit nicely into my forms and best of all it worked! I see you have a version 2 out now. I'll be checking it out. Thanks for the tag. Best Regards, Dennis Powers UXB Internet - A website design and Hosting Company 690 Wolcott Road P.O. Box 6029 Wolcott, CT 06716 Tel: (203)879-2844 http://www.uxbinternet.com/ http://www.uxb.net/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:261802 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
