[cfaussie] Re: Help selling CF as a solution vs. PHP
It may be meet the educational guidelines =( I not sure this is what Adobe had in mind) i.e. primary, middle and secondary school students (Years 1 to year 12) for 3 core school subjects -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 12:09 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Cc: Mark Szulc Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Help selling CF as a solution vs. PHP If it's for an accredited educational institution, you can get it for free, depending if you meet the requirements on how it can be used. Chris, with respect, I doubt that this is the case here. This really sounds like it's core to running the business (ie: organisational workflows, not teaching and learning use), which is outside the scope of the Free CF for Education guidelines. Tens of thousands of students learning CF at the same time? oh, what a wonderful vision... Ah have a dream! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Help selling CF as a solution vs. PHP
I have just finished with IBM Australia on a project for USA - The project is a conversion of a current CD based package for students to a online delivered solution to approx 3 million users with approx 1.5 million concurrent users. Currently the client is considering a DOT Net front end with a MS SQL backend - the backend after speaking to IBM today require 28 processors licences of SQL at 40k per processor (Why MS SQL at this level is another serious question -re licensing fees) with approx 82 plus copies of Win 2003 Enterprise licence ... currently we are unsure of the number of web servers .. IBM are suggesting 3 Blade Servers each holding 14 blades After considering the costs of the front end (web servers) just the windows licensing costs are huge this naturally brings up the OS costs and then leads onto the development platform Coldfusion has been suggested during the discussion of DOT Net and open source solutions like PHP however the Coldfusion licence and Linux costs exceed a Windows licence cost and a DOT Net solution (a tool is in the process of being written to dynamically convert the CD to a DOT Net solution so we cant use the development time as a point) In looking at this a bit closer the question may be Can a blade server use 1 Coldfusion enterprise licence? OR each blade within the Blade server be treated as a separate server requiring a enterprise licence? OR is there a major discount for 52 copies of Coldfusion enterprise? Any suggestions would be great as currently the feeling is PHP is the way to go Cheers Rob Wilson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Help selling CF as a solution vs. PHP
Thanks Dale, I was forgetting about BlueDragon ... and yes its worth a phone call to Adobe ... Do you know someone there I can contact? Cheers Rob Wilson _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2008 9:56 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Help selling CF as a solution vs. PHP Seriously, This many servers I would be going open source all the way, the fact is that Adobe is just not priced for this, with that said, if you end up going with Adobe, contact them, they should do a special price for this type of setup. My advice would be Linux Servers BlueDragon MySQL LAMB is the new LAMP Plus you still have the dev / maintenance speed advantages. Regards Dale Fraser From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M@ Bourke Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2008 9:15 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Help selling CF as a solution vs. PHP another question would be, what features of coldfusion do you need? maybe open BD would be fine for this application? 52 * free = free or Railo. how ever this might not be an option for various reasons, but just a thought for you. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Rob Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just finished with IBM Australia on a project for USA - The project is a conversion of a current CD based package for students to a online delivered solution to approx 3 million users with approx 1.5 million concurrent users. Currently the client is considering a DOT Net front end with a MS SQL backend - the backend after speaking to IBM today require 28 processors licences of SQL at 40k per processor (Why MS SQL at this level is another serious question -re licensing fees) with approx 82 plus copies of Win 2003 Enterprise licence ... currently we are unsure of the number of web servers .. IBM are suggesting 3 Blade Servers each holding 14 blades After considering the costs of the front end (web servers) just the windows licensing costs are huge this naturally brings up the OS costs and then leads onto the development platform Coldfusion has been suggested during the discussion of DOT Net and open source solutions like PHP however the Coldfusion licence and Linux costs exceed a Windows licence cost and a DOT Net solution (a tool is in the process of being written to dynamically convert the CD to a DOT Net solution so we cant use the development time as a point) In looking at this a bit closer the question may be Can a blade server use 1 Coldfusion enterprise licence? OR each blade within the Blade server be treated as a separate server requiring a enterprise licence? OR is there a major discount for 52 copies of Coldfusion enterprise? Any suggestions would be great as currently the feeling is PHP is the way to go Cheers Rob Wilson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Help selling CF as a solution vs. PHP
Hi Geoff, Thanks for Adam Its 1 application for a single organization with huge numbers of concurrent users (students) Cheers Rob Wilson -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Bowers Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2008 11:57 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Help selling CF as a solution vs. PHP On Sep 17, 8:36 pm, Rob Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there a major discount for 52 copies of Coldfusion enterprise? Massive. If this is an application you are selling to multiple clients you could absolutely get an OEM deal with this sort of volume (ie. unlimited licenses for a set price). If its a standalone application for a single organisation, then you can probably get a site license (ie. unlimited licenses for a set price much less than OEM). I'm not a rep for Adobe. However, I have been privy to some larger deals. I would strongly urge you to talk to Adobe and get an idea of what options you do have. You can try Ben Forta certainly. I'd be inclined to reach out to Adam Lehman (adlehman-AT-adobe.com) who was previously the sales engineer for CF and is now the senior CF evangelist. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ Adobe Community Expert for ColdFusion --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: [OT] working with shipping costs in Australia
We built a shipping calculator for our online auction engine that handles AusPost, Air Express, TNT, fastway couriers and finally fixed priced shipping all items posted on the site have weight and dimensions recorded - Depending on the postcode of the sender and receiver the weight and dimensions are looked up via a module (all records are in various SQL tables - Aust post has a nice PDF to work out their formula's for shipping - AustPost database is downloadable) and are then the results are displayed to the user (the originator of the item can select which shipping options he will allow and the receiver can select from the various shipping methods allowed) Naturally the modules have been revised several times under live fire to handle volumes like 10,000 items shipped per month One of our sites has looked at combining the weights and shipping dimensions to allow for bundling - it works for IT products - its always a issue with say 1 x 22in LCD and 1 x CDROM box is it 2 parcel or 1 parcel ( an you place the CDROM inside the LCD box?) thing to look out for - Auspost change every 6 months (without must notice) - Road transport can change without notice- - fuel levy charged by Road transport - min account fees charged by month - can averaged across no of items shipped (need history) there is quite a few other gotcha's we have discovered over the last 5 years with shipping the huge range of items handled by a auction site within Aust. Rob Wilson _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taco Fleur Sent: Monday, 30 July 2007 2:05 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] [OT] working with shipping costs in Australia Hi all, I was wondering how some of you guys/girls handle shipping cost calculation? I'm working with a calculator provided by AUSPOST, it only allows me to pass one item to calculate costs of, which means I somehow need to add up all the dimensions of the products ordered and pass that over, which becomes a bit of a pain and probably error prone. Ultimately I'd like to pass all dimensions of the the items seperately and get one calculated price back, is anyone using something like this? -- http://www.clickfind.com.au http://www.clickfind.com.au The new Australian search engine for businesses, products and services -- *** http://www.clickfind.com.au The new Australian search engine for businesses, products and services *** Virtual and Dedicated Servers with registered version of ColdFusion from $350 a month *** ColdFusion licenses at the lowest price --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Large CSV's and server timeouts
Hi Grant, we have used http://www.emerle.net/programming/display.cfm/t/cfx_text2query with success Cheers Rob _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of grant Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2007 9:54 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Large CSV's and server timeouts Hi y'All Here's the scenario: we have a csv file that contains 1.5 million rows and is provided by an external vendor. we need to either (a) parse the csv and insert into a DB, or (b) do lookups directly on the csv. We do not and cannot have SQLloader. The DB is ORA10g. The servers are old and under fairly high load all the time. We've tried splitting the csv into smaller chunks and inserting into the DB and also trying a SQL link straight into the CSV. Anything we try time's out and basically brings down the server. Who can shed light on the most efficient way to solve this problem? Thanks Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Large CSV's and server timeouts
Hi Andrew, some of the smaller files we handle are in the order of 5 meg and larger files have been in the order of 12 meg ...we have had major issues with servers timing out on large files - CSV and the dreadful XLS files - depending on who created the files even became a factor i.e errors within the file (at least the Fed. Govt sent us XML files - in some cases 3 XML files to run in sequence each XML file in the order of 5-8 meg each without the server timing out) ... in our case a manual import wasn't a option - a daily or in some case twice daily import of data that updated several tables Rob Smartnumbers Auction site 2004 - 2006 Auctiontrader - 1999 - current Directwholesale - 2001 - current _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2007 10:29 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Large CSV's and server timeouts Rob, I doubt CF will be able to handle a query of this magnitude that grant is looking at, but to split the file up into 1mg chunks could be viable. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Wilson Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2007 10:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Large CSV's and server timeouts Hi Grant, we have used http://www.emerle.net/programming/display.cfm/t/cfx_text2query with success Cheers Rob _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of grant Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2007 9:54 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Large CSV's and server timeouts Hi y'All Here's the scenario: we have a csv file that contains 1.5 million rows and is provided by an external vendor. we need to either (a) parse the csv and insert into a DB, or (b) do lookups directly on the csv. We do not and cannot have SQLloader. The DB is ORA10g. The servers are old and under fairly high load all the time. We've tried splitting the csv into smaller chunks and inserting into the DB and also trying a SQL link straight into the CSV. Anything we try time's out and basically brings down the server. Who can shed light on the most efficient way to solve this problem? Thanks Grant BR __ NOD32 2328 (20070613) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFAussie Community Head Count
Ping here -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Voerman Sent: Friday, 1 June 2007 12:02 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] CFAussie Community Head Count Hi Guys, Just a quick note to let you guys know that we at the Adobe Australia office haven't forgotten about you, and do monitor this (and several other) lists on a regular basis. We have a couple of Community related irons in the fire and will communicate more on them as they solidify. What would be of great help to us in the meantime would be a hands up (head count) on how many Aussie CF'ers are reading this list on a regular basis. If you could just ping a response to to this thread that would be grouse. Thanks in advance Matt Voerman Senior Consultant Adobe Systems Pacific __ NOD32 2303 (20070601) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
