[cia-drugs] Fw: CFR Release: Gary Samore Joins Council as Director of Studies

2006-08-22 Thread Arlene Johnson
FYI. Keeping tabs on the CFR. You know what I mean I hope.

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Gary Samore Joins Council as Director of Studies 

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August 15, 2006�Gary Samore, former National Security Council staffer 
during the Clinton administration and long-time State Department official, 
will
become the Council�s new director of studies at the beginning of October. 
Samore is currently vice president for global security and sustainability at
the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, where he is responsible 
for the foundation�s international grantmaking. Previously, he was director
of studies at London�s International Institute of Strategic Studies (IISS).

�Gary brings to the job the perfect mixture of government service, academic 
stature, and management experience,� said Council President Richard N.
Haass. �He inherits a strong Studies Program. I look forward to working 
with him to make it even stronger.�

Prior to joining the MacArthur Foundation in September 2005, Samore served as 
director of studies and senior fellow for nonproliferation at IISS. As
director of studies, he was responsible for overall direction of the 
Institute�s research program, including fundraising for research projects,
management of IISS research staff, and supervision of the IISS Adelphi Paper 
series. He also directed the IISS�s nonproliferation program, organizing
numerous international conferences and workshops and producing a variety of 
IISS publications on proliferation issues. He is the editor of several
IISS Strategic Dossiers on weapons programs in Iraq, North Korea, and Iran.

Samore has years of experience working on proliferation issues for the U.S. 
government. From 1996 to 2000, he served as special assistant to
President Bill Clinton and senior director for non-proliferation and export 
controls at the National Security Council. From 1987 to 1995, he held
various positions at the Department of State. As deputy to 
Ambassador-at-Large for Korean Affairs Robert Gallucci, he was one of the 
U.S. negotiators
of the 1994 U.S.-North Korea Agreed Framework. He also served as director of 
the Office of Regional Nonproliferation Affairs in the Bureau of
Political Military Affairs and as special assistant to the 
Ambassador-at-Large for Nonproliferation and Nuclear Energy Policy, Richard 
T. Kennedy. 
 
Samore has held positions at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, the 
RAND Corporation, and Harvard University, where he received a PhD in
government in 1984.

He succeeds James M. Lindsay, who after three years is leaving the Council to 
become the founding director of the Robert S. Strauss Center for
International Security and Law at the University of Texas at Austin. 




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Re: [cia-drugs] Give up the shit kicking of Ruppert you morons!

2006-08-22 Thread Arlene Johnson
Mike Ruppert and I are both alumni of UCLA; we both know some of the same 
information particularly regarding Iran. I never physically met Mike because by 
the time I became aware of him, I was no longer living in California. He and I 
did converse away from this listserv, however, on a one-to-one basis because we 
have both been terribly betrayed by the government. We both now are away from 
the USA, he in Venezuela and I currently in Sweden as a tourist. I feel 
confident that I will be able to return to where my heart is, Norway, fairly 
soon, but am not there yet. For details, log onto my Travel Journal Blog at 
http://arleneljohnson.livejournal.com and you'll see how I have sacrificed to 
get the truth out to decent people around the world.

In the meantime, I continue to publish the history that governments which 
deceive, DO NOT want you to know. Toward that end, in the first edition in 
which I published about 9/11, which is the 4th edtion (December 2001) two of 
Mike's articles, which are on motive, are there. He knew that I have 
subscribers, so he asked me to pay him something for the first article, and 
then threw in a second one for the same money that I offered to pay him for the 
first, $20.00. 

I feel that I understand Mike because he really has been raked over the coals, 
but then I have been too, and I have not succumbed to publishing 
disinformation. Plus, when I have learned that something that I published is 
innaccurate as I have on a couple of occassions, I get my Webbie to change it. 
I don't threaten to sue the person who corrected my mistake; I admit that I 
made a mistake and change the history in whatever edition it's in. I even lined 
through the 2 books I sold to a bookstore in London and put the correct history 
in them because the store manager advised me to do that.

Vig gave me a Web site regarding Peak Oil. And I managed to find two other 
writers who dealt with that issue too so published the truth about peak oil in 
the 19th edition. In my humble opinion, Mike could have admitted that he was 
wrong about peak oil, but he hasn't to my knowledge because he's scared.

I continue to publish the truth and am still alive for two reasons. One, I know 
how to stay safe from the governments which deceive us, and 2) God is watching 
out for me. That's all I can figure.

Peace,

Arlene Johnson
Publisher/Author
http://www.truedemocracy.net
Click on the icon that says Magazine to access the truth.
Password for 2006: message

-Original Message-
From: Duncan M. Roads [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Aug 21, 2006 12:36 PM
To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cia-drugs] Give up the shit kicking of Ruppert you morons!

You know, there is nothing more pitiful than watching a bunch of  
pathetic wanna-be's standing around kicking the shit out of someone  
when they are down.

I don't agree with many of Ruppert's conclusions, but fair suck of  
the sap, what are the heinous crimes he has committed to warrant such  
crap?

I dunno about some on this list, but I have been trafficking on  
various incarnations of the CIA-DRUGS list and before, since 1996 -  
and I can assure you weenies that Ruppert was out there fighting the  
good fight for what he believed in a long long time before you came  
along.

You people are free to disagree and argue about the content of his  
research and findings, but I really think you suck when you act like  
cowardly high school bullies and write crap like this.

There is not one of us researchers and publishers who is a perfect  
human being.  Most of us like a drink, sex and most of us burn  
midnight candles networking and writing - all because we care enough  
to turn off the Simpsons and try to change the shit going on around us.

Why you have such high expectations of Mike Ruppert is totally beyond  
me.  All it leads to is bitter disappointment when you grow up and  
realise that he doesn't walk on water.  Just like you can't walk on  
water.

I've got ten years of emails from this list and its former  
incarnation, and I can show you many, many issues Ruppert was  
involved -  in way before you decided to activate a brain cell.  On  
some issues he was right on, on others he was way off.

And anyway, so what?  What has he ever done to you that warrants such  
hatred?  Made a few statements you don't agree with? Told you what he  
thinks of you maybe?

By all means, come crying to this list if he commits non-consensual  
sex with a family member of yours, or runs off with your hard-earned  
money - but until then - just grow up a bit you wankers!

There is not one of you on the list that is any different, and as for  
you shit-kickers - you seem no different to that which you accuse  
Ruppert of being.

Duncan




On 21/08/2006, at 4:51 PM, muckblit wrote:

--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, mark urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have followed Ruppert and his information since the days when he,
 Dan Hopsicker and Kris Millegan used to make 

Re: [cia-drugs] Re: ruppert to leave the USA for good

2006-08-22 Thread Arlene Johnson
Anyone who believes that there isn't enough abiotic oil in Russia, needs to 
read the 19th edtion. It's free on my Web site for everyone in this listserv. 
That's because all my editions are free to the people who belong to this 
listserv. The 19th doesn't even need a password to access.

Peace,

Arlene Johnsom
Publisher/Author
http://www.truedemocracy.net
Click on the 4th icon, the one that says Magazine to access my e-zine and then 
scroll down till you see #19.

-Original Message-
From: tents444 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Aug 22, 2006 2:38 AM
To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: ruppert to leave the USA for good

Bob, I never paid much attention to the vreeland stuff. I ignore 
most conspiracy theory stuff because I know it would take all my 
time to thoroughly investigate it and come to a reasonable 
conclusion. I doubt many people have spent enough time either. 

So most of us take it all with a grain of salt. So when you list 
this and that concerning a multitude of issues and try to string 
them together into some conclusion, then I pretty much ignore it. 
Because investigating just one part of your theories would take a 
very long time. So because of the multitude of facts you string 
together, for that alone I don't believe you are an expert, or that 
your conclusions are necessarily true. You are just one more person 
with an opinion.

But you didn't address my point about abiotic oil and that Peak Oil 
theory still remains true even with the existence of abiotic (not 
from biological sources) oil.

As far as I know no one has found a way to pull up enough deep 
abiotic oil at a reasonable price to make a real dent in the huge 
demand for oil. So Peak Oil pricing is happening now. 

It just costs too much to pull up oil from deep levels. And it isn't 
refilling oil reservoirs fast enough to make a real dent in the huge 
demand for oil.

And everyone needs to read part 2 of Mike Ruppert's article from 
Venezuela describing the incredible harassment he has endured:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/36033

The full Mike Ruppert article from Venezuela is here: 
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/081606_burning_bridge.shtml
 
The Rense.com page has only the first part of the article:
http://www.rense.com/general73/ces.htm

eco



--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As for all the personal infighting
 crap in the replies here, I wouldn't know
 ...that it's crap, because it's all citations
 from publicly known Ruppert history,
 from his own mouth and writings. But
 you kill the messenger, ignore specifics.
 Unsurprisingly you add that you are wrong
 on many other topics as well, failing to
 cite specifics on any of those knee-jerk
 subliminally cloned positions.
 
 -Bob
 
 --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, tents444 tents444@ wrote:
 
  --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, mark urban mcurb@ wrote:
  
   Mike wrote a piece that is on the rense.com website about 
bidding
   farewell to america.
 
  That is a great article. Here is the URL:
  http://www.rense.com/general73/ces.htm
 
  I agree with nearly all of it. As for all the personal infighting
  crap in the replies here, I wouldn't know about that stuff, 
since I
  don't know Mike Ruppert personally.
 
  I hope his website stays up:
  http://www.fromthewilderness.com
 
  It has a lot of good info.
 
  I agree with the peak oil theory. It is already happening. And
  abiotic oil is too deep and too inaccessible right now to make 
much
  difference. Even when some abiotic oil bubbles up to become
  accessible it is not doing so in a great enough way to offset the
  huge demand for oil. So the peak oil theory still holds true. 
Peak
  Oil is nothing more than the truth of supply and demand setting
  prices. And abiotic oil deep in the earth costs too much to 
bring up
  right now.
 
  I disagree that the USA facilitated 9-11. But that is only an
  opinion. I think it is more likely that the hijackers picked the 
day
  of the simulated hijackings to pull off the real thing. 
Brilliant on
  their part. This caused the delay of intercepting aircraft since
  they thought there was a simulated hijacking going on.
 
  Same as the terrorist attacks in London. The bombers picked the 
day
  of a simulated terrorist attack scenario that the authorities 
were
  doing that day.
 
  So the USA and Britain facilitated the terrorist attacks due to
  their stupidity. We can all agree on their stupidity can't we? :)
 
  My favorite paragraph from Mike Ruppert's article:
 
  QUOTE:
 
  My permanent exodus from the US was actually ordained thirty 
years --
  to the month -- before I left for good on July 18th, 2006. It was
  thirty years ago that my then-fiance, a career contract agent 
for the
  CIA, disclosed to me that her people were interested in giving 
a
  major boost to my career with LAPD if I would become involved 
with
  her anti-terror operations that involved overlooking (i.e.
  

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Re: [cia-drugs] 2nd half of Mike Ruppert article on leaving USA. CIA drugs. Venezuela.

2006-08-22 Thread Arlene Johnson
Normally, I don't divulge the names of my supporters, but in this case, I feel 
that I must. Michael Leon gave me $50 when I was desperate for money due to the 
under cover informant who got my trust and confidence so he could try to 
destroy me financially. If Michael Leon was working for the very agency, FBI, 
that my under cover informant was, there would have been no way that he would 
have helped me. Michael Leon was just one of several people who helped me in 
2003 when my rent was nearly as much as what I get from the government (Social 
Security), so Mike Ruppert's comment that Michael Leon is working for the FBI 
must be wrong. Michael Leon didn't have to give me that money. He did it 
ostensibly because he values my work.

Peace,

Arlene Johnson
Publisher/Author
http://www.truedemocracy.net
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Subject: [cia-drugs] 2nd half of Mike Ruppert article on leaving USA. CIA 
drugs. Venezuela.

 
  The full Mike Ruppert article from Venezuela is here: 
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/081606_burning_bridge.shtml
   
  The Rense.com page has only the first part of the article:
  http://www.rense.com/general73/ces.htm
   
  My comment concerning the first half of the article is here:
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/36032 
   
  The second part of the article is farther down in this message. 
   
  A favorite paragraph from the first half of Mike Ruppert's article: 
   
  QUOTE:
  My permanent exodus from the US was actually ordained thirty years --
to the month -- before I left for good on July 18th, 2006. It was
thirty years ago that my then-fiance, a career contract agent for the
CIA, disclosed to me that her people were interested in giving a
major boost to my career with LAPD if I would become involved with
her anti-terror operations that involved overlooking (i.e.
protecting) large drug shipments coming in while facilitating the
movement of large quantities of firearms going out. I refused to
compromise my ethics as a police officer and -- as I wrote on page 6
of Crossing the Rubicon - that has determined the course of my life
ever since.
  UNQUOTE.
   
  --
   
  By the way, the corporatism quote mentioned in Mike Ruppert's 
  article is an anonymous analysis of Benito Mussolini's fascism 
  in Italy, and is not a quote from Benito Mussolini himself. See:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism#Corporatism_and_Fascism

   
  ---2nd half of August 16, 2006 Mike Ruppert article from Venezuela---
   
   
  BY THE LIGHT OF A BURNING BRIDGE
A Permanent Goodbye to the United States
   
  by
Michael C. Ruppert
   
  http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/081606_burning_bridge.shtml
   
  ...[see above link for full article]
   
  One thing is certain about fascism and that is that its behavior and 
 evolution are remarkably predictable. Five years ago I helped bring into 
 world consciousness a forgotten quote from Benito Mussolini wherein he said 
 that, �Fascism ought to more properly be called corporatism since it is the 
 merger of state and corporate power.� Nothing better describes the state of 
 the world today. The U.S. is a nation of the corporation, by the corporation, 
 and for the corporation. As such it has placed something different from and 
 opposed to the welfare of human beings on the compass as its �true North�.
   
  Fascism always becomes more vicious as it evolves. It never retreats, and as 
 with drug addition, larger and larger doses of oppression and violence are 
 always required to sustain its inevitable path towards self-destruction. As 
 the great Cynthia McKinney said to me not long before her just-orchestrated 
 ouster from the House of Representatives, �any fool can see it coming.�
  KRISTALNACHT  The burglary that took place at the new FTW offices in 
 Ashland, Oregon on Sunday, June 25th of this year was the equivalent of my 
 Kristalnacht, a replay of the night in 1938 when Nazi storm troopers, aided 
 by an increasingly cowed and cowardly citizenry, raided synagogues all over 
 Germany and smashed every piece of glass and every window they could find. 
 German Jews not in denial who could (literally) read the writing on the walls 
 (Juden Raus!) fled for their lives in the short time remaining before The 
 Holocaust. Those who denied the meaning of that very specific warning 
 remained in Germany, and their fate was sealed. 
   
  As a man who owns his own mind I can and do 

[cia-drugs] THOMAS FRANK : G.O.P. Corruption? Bring In the Conservatives New War Today?

2006-08-22 Thread MA PA



THOMAS FRANK : G.O.P. Corruption? Bring In the Conservatives  New War Today?By THOMAS FRANK - The New York Times - Tuesday, Aug. 22, 2006   Frank: G.O.P. Corruption - Thomas Frank is the author, most recently, of “What’s the Matter with Kansas? How Conservatives Won the Heart of America.’’ He is a guest columnist during August. - What happens when the machinery of the state falls into the hands of people who laugh at the function for which it was designed? - PLUS: Fox News: Iran May 'Pull Nuclear Trigger' Today - PLUS: Jet with 171 on board crashes in Ukraine  MoreGUEST COLUMNIST G.O.P. Corruption? Bring In the Conservatives. By THOMAS FRANK Published: August 22, 2006 In the lexicon of American business, “cynicism” means doubt
 about the benevolence of market forces, and it is a vice of special destructiveness. Those who live or work in Washington, however, know another variant of cynicism, a fruitful one, a munificent one, a cynicism that is, in fact, the health of the conservative state. The object of this form of cynicism is “government,” whose helpful or liberating possibilities are to be derided whenever the opportunity presents. Remember how President Reagan claimed to find terror in the phrase, “I’m from the government and I’m here to help”? Or how the humorist P. J. O’Rourke won fame by declaring that even the proceedings of a New England town meeting were a form of thievery? The true scoffer demands sterner stuff, though, and in the cold light of economic science he can see that government is not merely susceptible to corruption; government is corruption, a vile profaning of the market-most-holy in which some groups contrive to swipe the property of other groups
 via taxation and regulation. Politicians use the threat of legislation to extort bribes from industry, and even federal quality standards — pure food and so on — are tantamount to theft, since by certifying that any product in a given field won’t kill you, they nullify the reputations for quality and goodness that individual companies in the field have built up at great expense over the years. Continued: http://mparent.livejournal.com/11554311.html Plamegate: Calendars show Armitage met reporter http://mparent.livejournal.com/11554901.html Romanian oil firm says rig attacked by Iran http://mparent.livejournal.com/11556493.html Jet with 171 on board crashes in
 Ukraine http://mparent.livejournal.com/11559542.html Fox News: Iran May 'Pull Nuclear Trigger' Today http://mparent.livejournal.com/11557799.html Today's Newswire http://mparent.livejournal.com/2006/08/22/   MARC PARENT   CRIMES AND CORRUPTIONS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER NEWS  http://mparent.livejournal.com/  http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/14409  http://www.dailykos.com/user/ccnwon 
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[cia-drugs] Israeli Secrets I Shouldn't Know

2006-08-22 Thread norgesen





ISRAELI SECRETS I SHOULDN'T 
KNOW 
   
   
   
  by Barry 
Chamish   No outsider was 
supposed to discover what I did about Israel. And I'm sorry I did. I 
could be raising my kids in suburban Modiin and working on raising my bowling 
average. My most outrageous political statement might be, "Now why would any 
teenager want to French-kiss Chaim Ramon?"   But I 
did discover that Israel's founders and its establishment created a nation based 
on a form of Freemasonry called Sabbatainism. The first cities they founded were 
not given Jewish names but Masonic ones:   Tel Aviv - The 
first Jewish city was named for a Babylonian internment camp for Jewish slaves. 
It was from Tel Abib that Ezekiel was lifted by a peculiar biblical-age UFO to 
watch a city being constructed. And it was from Babylon that the Jews changed 
their months and learned a skill that God hated, astrology. 
 Petach Tikve - Meaning Gate Of Hope, the 
Sabbataian phrase for female genitilia. Rosh 
Pina - Situated precisely on the 33rd latitude, this town means keystone, for it 
was intended to be the keystone to illumination. What is not understood is that 
the last three steps in the Masonic rites, parallel ancient Israel's latitudes, 
from the 30th to 33rd. The British called Rosh Pina's airport, the 33rd runway. 

 

http://www.airports-worldwide.com/israel/mahanaim_ben_yaakov_israel.htm
 And 
if you think Israel's founders were unaware of what they were building, think 
again. Here is Ben Gurion ruminating in 1962: 
http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/bengur62.jpg
Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister of Israel, seemed to have remarkable 
prescience. Invited in 1962 to predict what the world would be like in 25 years' 
time, he told Look magazine: 
"The image of the world in 1987 as traced in my imagination: the Cold War 
will be a thing of the past. Internal pressure of the constantly growing 
intelligensia in Russia for more freedom and the pressure of the masses 
for raising their living standards may lead to a gradual democratization of 
the Soviet Union. On the other hand, the increasing influence of the workers 
and farmers, and rising political importance of men of science, may transform 
the United States into a welfare state with a planned economy. Western 
and Eastern Europe will become a federation of autonomous states 
having a Socialist and democratic regime. With the exception of the 
USSR as a federated Eurasian state , all other continents will become 
united in a world alliance, at whose disposal will be an international 
police force. All armies will be abolished, and there will be 
no more wars . In Jerusalem, the United Nations (a truly United 
Nations) will build a shrine of the Prophets to serve the federated 
union of all continents; this will be the scene of the Supreme Court of 
Mankind , to settle all controversies among the federated continents, as 
prophesied by Isaiah.
 And here is Ben Gurion's dream 
shrine, the Supreme Court building designed by the Rothschilds. Note the 30 
steps followed by a final 3 leading to illumination: 
http://www.abidemiracles.com/555701.htm
 People have asked me why I'm promoting 
non-service in the IDF. The answer is it's a protest that MAY save the state. 
And, despite prayers and messiahs, I do mean MAY. These anti-Jewish 
Masonic cretins cooperated in the deaths of millions of European Jews to get 
their dream state. Lately, they bemired the state in still another war during 
which twice as many of the Israeli dead proportionately were the religious of 
Yesha, still too blind and patriotic to understand that they died for their very 
worst enemies.   The Israeli establishment, finally, 
must be felled. It's not worth another 6 million souls to keep it intact. 
 
**  
Of the new thinking establishment, lots more advice 
arrived:Of course Tamar Yonah is the queen of the new thinkers. And this 
week, Joel Bainerman is on her radio show. He's half way up the dial: Tamar 
and Joel www.israelnationalradio.comThen there is 
Francisco Gil-White:http://www.hirhome.com/israel/hezbollah7_2.htm And the anti - NWO writings of Joseph Ehrlich; write: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Here is the correct 
address for Daisy Stern:http://www.pushhamburger.com/barry.htmI 
add, the Sabbataians are still doing horrid damage to the Jews and 
Israel:http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=541784http://www.israelemb.org/bios/Reuven_Azar.htm 
** I'm going to be copying my 
CDs, The Current Vatican Crusade For Jerusalem, The Secret War Against The 
Settlers and the audio disc, Live At Bet Messiah. Write me quickly if you'd like 
them in DVD as well. And I'll sell all 3 CDs for $25 including postage if you 
hurry.  Please write to join me in a New 
York-New Jersey speech planned for late September: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Great response for the nut from Haifa piece. People now have spotted his crazed 
"thinking" at Wikopedia, Amazon and elsewhere. Personalities such as 

Re: [cia-drugs] Israeli Secrets I Shouldn't Know

2006-08-22 Thread Vanessa Di Domenico


--- norgesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ISRAELI SECRETS I SHOULDN'T KNOW 
 
   But I did discover that Israel's founders and
 its establishment created a nation based on a form
 of Freemasonry called Sabbatainism. The first cities
 they founded were not given Jewish names but Masonic
 ones:

I am daughter of high level masons, my grandad wrote
for Pinochet:

I can tell you one thing- you've got things reversed
here, because masonry is based on judaism, not the
other way around! Masons were set up by jews to
control Christiandom and make it the basis of murder
with the crusades and such things. They also destroy
and control everyone they can- such as forcing Japan
to turn over their ancient Samurai swords to give them
permission to enter the international market. How do
you think they entered?

My dad still has his Samurai sword, and trerasures it.
He's a goldsmith in Chile, and an idiot, of course.

Vanessa Di Domenico
Maracaibo, Venezuela

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[cia-drugs] Fwd: If you treasure your internet... a must read

2006-08-22 Thread kayforpeace
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CONGRESS POISED TO UNRAVEL THE INTERNET
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/082006b.shtml
Lured by huge checks handed out by the country's top lobbyists, 
members of
Congress could soon strike a blow against Internet freedom as they 
seek to
resolve the hot-button controversy over preserving 'network 
neutrality.' The
telecommunications reform bill...sets the stage for the privatized,
consolidated and unregulated communications system that is at the 
core of
the phone and cable lobbies' political agenda, says Jeffrey Chester.


Commentary
Terra, terra, terra! but where's the beef?
By Bev Conover
Online Journal Editor  Publisher


Aug 14, 2006, 00:43

 Clair Pellar may have gone to that big Wendy's hamburger joint in 
the sky,
but the question that brought her 15 minutes of fame is more 
relevant today
with each terror scare: Where's the beef?

The latest terror plot is the most preposterous of all. Yet, the 
corporate
media have taken to it like flies to honey while the sheeple are 
dumping all
their liquids and gels into airport trash bins for the privilege of
boarding an airliner, after waiting in interminable queues to be 
grotesquely
searched and groped by perverse airport security personnel.

Imagine, we're being told that terrorists were plotting to blow up
airliners by mixing liquid chemicals in the planes' bathroom 
cubicles, then
detonating them, therefore, travelers will not be allowed to bring 
any
liquids -- with a few exceptions and at the discretion of the 
perverse
security personnel -- gels or toothpaste aboard the planes.

Instead, the potentially explosive stuff must be dumped in trash 
bins right
in the airport terminals. Got it? You are to dump and pour your 
liquids and
gels into trash bins, allowing the possibly deadly stuff to mix and 
go BOOM
right in the terminal. It's for your own safety. Right? Perhaps you 
should
consider that in the Bush-Blair-neocons' bizarro world it is less 
messy to
blow you and the terminal up, rather than have all this debris 
raining down
from the sky. Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport, however, 
plans to
give 11 boxes of unopened, potentially explosive, items to the city's
homeless shelters. Homeless population control?

You would think this would have raised some suspicions among
passengers-in-waiting and the corporate media. But no. Not a peep. 
Certainly
not by the media and the passengers they chose to quote or put on 
the air.

Okay, there haven't been any explosions in the terminals. But George 
W. and
Poodle Blair must be laughing themselves silly over the stupidity of 
the
keep us safe at any price crowd. You can visualize

*Saturday Night Live* Bush impersonator Will Ferrell gleefully 
saying,
Terra, terra, terra!

This latest absurdity, allegedly hatched by Blair and his cohorts, 
would
have us believe that a bunch of guys (the number of which keep 
changing),
none of whom had airline tickets, some of whom had no passports and 
none of
whom had whatever substances to make their bombs, were going to blow 
up 10
airliners. Despite that, according to the Brits, the Bushies 
conveniently
messed them up by insisting the would-be perpetrators be grabbed now,
despite the absence of hard evidence, making it nigh on to 
impossible under
UK courts' evidentiary rules to convict the alleged 
wannabe terrorists.

But does any of this bother the corporate media that regurgitates ad 
nauseum
whatever officials (unnamed, of course) tell them? Have they all 
been
lobotomized so that they are incapable of asking, Where's the beef?

Of course, it wouldn't occur to them that these terror alerts are 
trotted
out whenever Bush and Blair need to divert attention from their 
current evil
or their evil yet to come. Skepticism requires critical thinking and 
the
ability to connect the dots -- none of which the corporate media 
mavens,
most of whom also have erased the word alleged from their 
vocabularies, are
capable of doing.

So to pile on, knowing there will be no questions asked by the media
regurgitators, Blair and his home secretary, John Reid, have flipped 
out
another fear card -- just in case the current one blows up, so to 
speak, in
their faces. Why there are 24 more conspiracy plots under 
surveillance in
the UK. Does this mean that Bush, who has vowed to preemptively 
strike
terr'ists wherever they are, is going to have to do a shock  
awe number
on the British Isles?

Imagine what would have happened if they had thought of the
terrorist-terrorism angle some 60 years ago, instead of 
the godless
Communist one that vaporized with the fall of the Soviet Union. By 
now,
every nation that didn't bow down to the fascist powers would be 
flattened.
As for any real terrorists who may be out there, they don't have to 
blow up
anything. All they have to do is gather in Internet chat rooms, 
shoot off
their mouths, then sit back and enjoy watching us lose more freedom 
in the
name of security. Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff 

[cia-drugs] Russia pays all debts to Paris Club nations

2006-08-22 Thread Vigilius Haufniensis





http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.aspx?cu_no=2item_no=103691version=1template_id=48parent_id=28



  
  
Russia pays all debts to Paris Club nations 
  


  Published: Tuesday, 22 August, 
2006, 07:47 AM Doha Time
  

  MOSCOW: Russia yesterday completed paying 
  off its Soviet-era debts to the Paris Club of creditor nations, drawing on 
  its new-found oil wealth to seal a dramatic recovery from its 1998 
  financial crash.
  Vnesheconombank, the state-owned bank which acts as 
  Russia's debt agent, said it had made an early repayment of $22.5bn as 
  well as servicing costs of $1.3bn.
  The Finance Ministry hailed the repayments, made to 17 
  Paris Club creditor nations from August 15 to 21, a period spanning the 
  eighth anniversary of its $40bn domestic debt default and rouble 
  devaluation.
  "The early repayment to creditor nations was made possible 
  by growth in the economic and financial might of Russia," the ministry 
  said in a statement.
  Russia was forced to restructure the debts, assumed by 
  Moscow after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, twice in 1996 and 
  1999.
  The Finance Ministry said the repayment would save over 
  $12bn in debt costs through to 2020 and reduce Russia's foreign debts as a 
  share of gross domestic product to just 9%.
  "Repaying the entire sum ... will facilitate a 
  strengthening of Russia's international authority as a state with 
  significant financial reserves and stable borrowing," the ministry 
  added.
  Analysts said the repayment strengthened an already-strong 
  case for international ratings agencies to upgrade Russia, with Standard 
   Poor's tipped as the most likely to move next.
  "It's a very symbolic step for Russia as a country," said 
  Zsolt Papp, emerging markets economist at ABN Amro in London. "It 
  strengthens the case for a ratings upgrade."
  SP upgraded its sovereign rating on Russia last year 
  to BBB with a stable outlook. Fitch rates Russia BBB+ and Moody's Baa2, 
  both with stable outlooks.
  There was no immediate comment from the Paris 
  Club.
  Russian Eurobonds firmed yesterday in an otherwise quiet 
  external emerging debt market, with Russia's benchmark 30-year bond being 
  bid higher. Yields on the bond fell 8.3 basis points to 5.861%, the lowest 
  in five-months.
  The payment completes a breakthrough deal signed with the 
  Paris Club in June and brings Russia's total foreign debt redemptions in 
  the past year to over $40bn.
  Russia, the world's second-largest oil exporter, drew on a 
  budget stabilisation fund set up in 2004 to make the repayment. It will 
  knock about a third off the country's foreign debts, which last stood at 
  $70bn.
  The fund, stuffed with windfall petrodollar revenues, has 
  become a hallmark of Russia's economic revival under President Vladimir 
  Putin after the chaos and hyperinflation of the 1990s virtually wiped out 
  the central bank's reserves.
  The reserves last stood at $277bn, the third largest in 
  the world after Japan and China. That figure will fall when the repayment 
  from the oil fund, counted as part of the reserves, shows up in the 
  central bank's weekly figures.
  The biggest recipient is Germany, which will also receive 
  the bulk of a $1bn premium Russia agreed to pay in lieu of foregone 
  interest, with France, Britain and the Netherlands to share the 
  rest.
  Germany held out for a premium after it had securitised 
  part of Russia's Paris Club debts in 2004 in the form of credit-linked 
  notes. The "Aries" CLNs, backed by Russian debt payments, are now viewed 
  by investors as straight German debt.
  The repayment will also help insulate Russia's economy 
  from the impact of booming oil export revenues, which have boosted the 
  money supply and driven up the price of property, stocks and luxury 
  goods.
  After the sovereign repayment, Russia still has some 
  unfinished business dating back to the Soviet era. The Finance Ministry 
  will next month offer to swap $600mn in debts to commercial creditors into 
  Eurobonds.
  The swap, the second since a $1.3bn deal at a 35% discount 
  in 2002, will further reduce the outstanding stock of foreign trade debts, 
  estimated at up to $3bn. - 
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Re: [cia-drugs] Re: ruppert to leave the USA for good

2006-08-22 Thread Dstacey





tents44 wrote:"I disagree that the USA facilitated 
9-11." 

I wonder if the author has considered the lack of 
criminal invesigation of 911, arguably the most atrocious crime in our country 
this century? Here are some thoughts on the subject from a prior message I sent 
to others:



 
It is clear that what is arguably the worst crime committed in America in 
this century was never investigated as a crime. No effort was made to determine 
who did it. Instead the media began a drumbeat of “Osama and Al Queda did it.” 
Although proof of that was promised by Colin Powell, it never was produced. And 
Condaleezza Rice promised a “white paper” setting forth the proof, but it never 
appeared. When the President Bush demanded that Afghanistan turn over Osama, 
they agreed to do so but required that the U.S. first produce proof that he had 
done it. No proof was produced. 

 
Osama twice publicly denied that he had anything to do with the events of 
September 11, 2001. 


 
Instead of producing proof, our government set about to hide the 
evidence. Obviously the first thing one would do to determine the cause of the 
collapse of the three towers at the World Trade Center would be to carefully 
examine the steel girders and other debris. But armed guards were immediately 
posted at the siteto prevent anyoneexamining the debris. Nor even 
take photographs of it. And then the debris was promptly shipped out of the 
country.

The best 
evidence of what struck the Pentagon is the images captured by surveillance 
cameras in the area. The videos from nearby surveillance cameras were quickly 
seized by the FBI from a service station with a direct view of the Pentagon. 
Similarly two other private surveillance cameras in nearby buildings were seized 
within minutes of the event. The Pentagon itself has many surveillance cameras, 
of course, that likely captured the event. However, with the exception of a few 
frames from a camera in a parking lot that shows an indistinct flying object 
striking the Pentagon, the government has refused all Freedom of Information Act 
requests for the release of this data. Strange, that, because the evidence in 
the videos would clear up the question of what actually struck the Pentagon.

A meeting of 
air traffic controllers was held shortly after 911 to discuss what they had 
experienced. Six air traffic controllers provided accounts of their 
communications with hijacked planes on Sept. 11, 2001, on a tape recording that 
was later destroyed by Federal Aviation Administration managers, according to a 
government investigative report. 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A6632-2004May6?language=printer 

The Defense Department released a video tape of 
“Osama” on December 13, 2001, excerpts from which were shown on prime time 
television several times. http://tinyurl.com/mqhzb 
Many people interpreted the translated dialog as a “confession” that bin Laden 
had been behind the attacks on 911. 
CNN reported: “(CNN) -- Osama bin Laden 
recounts with delight the September 11 terrorist attacks against the United 
States as he talks with associates on a videotape released Thursday by the Bush 
administration.” http://tinyurl.com/z6fc2 

However, it 
was quickly established that the man playing the part of Osama on the tape was 
not the real Osama and nothing was ever seen or heard of the tape thereafter. 
Somehow, CNN failed to report that the tape was a fake. 

WILL THE REAL OSAMA BIN 
LADEN PLEASE STEP FORWARD!


As many widely circulated 
pictures of Osama bin Laden show, he has a long thin face and a long thin nose. 
The fake Osama was round faced and had a broad nose. 

 
Recently, it was revealed that the “Most Wanted” poster of Osama bin 
Laden, posted at the FBI website, did not list the events of 911 as a crime for 
which he was wanted. http://tinyurl.com/syn8m When queried, the FBI said it had “no hard evidence 
connecting Bin Laden to 9/11”

 
The National Transportation and Safety Board investigates plane crashes. 
That is its reason for being. Except on 911. There is no indication that they 
investigated the crash at the Pentagon..

 

 
Although the media reports that American Airlines Flight 77 was hijacked 
and flown into the Pentagon, there is no credible evidence of the crash of such 
a huge plane. CNN's Jamie McIntyre 
reported live from the Pentagon. He said “there's no evidence of a plane having 
crashed anywhere near the Pentagon; no large sections of wing, tail, or fuselage 
visible.” http://tinyurl.com/qbr4h 

 
Samuel Danner (electrical 
engineer for AmTrak), was involved in the clean-up at the Pentagon crash site 
and inspected the debris at the site. http://tinyurl.com/nhqvk He 
said, "It was not a Boeing 757 that hit the Pentagon.” He relates how the 
authorities immediately organized a crew to clean up the debris on the Pentagon 
lawn.

Here is a clip 
from the CNN coverage showing the crew cleaning up the lawn of the Pentagon 
after the crash. See below 

Re: [cia-drugs] Re: ruppert to leave the USA for good

2006-08-22 Thread RoadsEnd
Peak oil is a bull-looney social engineering and profit-making  
enterprise.

Have you ever seen fossils in rock? You seen fossils in coal? They  
look kind of similar don't they? Now how do you get fossils in coal  
seams if the coal is made-up of fossils?

All oil is abiotic.

The peak-oil crisis' comes from the oil monopoly trust that is held  
by the same secret societal forces that have been setting the stage  
for some time now.

Grow bio-mass locally.

Desist the thralldom.


tents444, you are wrong twice, IMHO, because forces within the USA  
most assuredly facilitated the 19 lone cadre and mad arab in a cave  
in their roles in the play.

So you may be wrong in your acceptance of Mr. Ruppert's forced exile.

Mike blames America and her people, that is scapegoating and  
misdirection.

America has had an amazing program of psychological warfare mounted  
against it. America's people have been quite stiff-necked to this  
program and have been a problem to the nefarious secret societal  
networks that have been used against us hoi polloi.

As I have said before, Mike targeted activists, then tried stuff  
first the CIA-Drugs movements, later the 9-11 movement and then lead  
activist down the peak-oil rabbit hole.

MHO,
Peace,
Om
K


On Aug 20, 2006, at 1:54 PM, tents444 wrote:

 --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, mark urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mike wrote a piece that is on the rense.com website about bidding
 farewell to america.

 That is a great article. Here is the URL:
 http://www.rense.com/general73/ces.htm

 I agree with nearly all of it. As for all the personal infighting
 crap in the replies here, I wouldn't know about that stuff, since I
 don't know Mike Ruppert personally.

 I hope his website stays up:
 http://www.fromthewilderness.com

 It has a lot of good info.

 I agree with the peak oil theory. It is already happening. And
 abiotic oil is too deep and too inaccessible right now to make much
 difference. Even when some abiotic oil bubbles up to become
 accessible it is not doing so in a great enough way to offset the
 huge demand for oil. So the peak oil theory still holds true. Peak
 Oil is nothing more than the truth of supply and demand setting
 prices. And abiotic oil deep in the earth costs too much to bring up
 right now.

 I disagree that the USA facilitated 9-11. But that is only an
 opinion. I think it is more likely that the hijackers picked the day
 of the simulated hijackings to pull off the real thing. Brilliant on
 their part. This caused the delay of intercepting aircraft since
 they thought there was a simulated hijacking going on.

 Same as the terrorist attacks in London. The bombers picked the day
 of a simulated terrorist attack scenario that the authorities were
 doing that day.

 So the USA and Britain facilitated the terrorist attacks due to
 their stupidity. We can all agree on their stupidity can't we? :)

 My favorite paragraph from Mike Ruppert's article:

 QUOTE:

 My permanent exodus from the US was actually ordained thirty years --
 to the month -- before I left for good on July 18th, 2006. It was
 thirty years ago that my then-fiance, a career contract agent for the
 CIA, disclosed to me that her people were interested in giving a
 major boost to my career with LAPD if I would become involved with
 her anti-terror operations that involved overlooking (i.e.
 protecting) large drug shipments coming in while facilitating the
 movement of large quantities of firearms going out. I refused to
 compromise my ethics as a police officer and -- as I wrote on page 6
 of Crossing the Rubicon - that has determined the course of my life
 ever since.

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Re: [cia-drugs] Re: ruppert to leave the USA for good

2006-08-22 Thread Sean McBride



Regarding Steve Hager's speculations below:1. I was privy to no inside information about Delmart Vreeland. I approached the Vreeland issue as I approach all issues: with the utmost skepticism and the highest possible truth standards. I always demand rock solid evidence from those making sensational claims. For a time I was the only person questioning Ruppert about his dubious assertions concerning Vreeland, and I was heavily attacked for doing so.2. I was not involved in any controlled dialectic with Ruppert -- I pursued honest disagreements with Ruppert, especially over the role of Israel in conspiracy politics. I am not "friends" with Ruppert -- I simply don't feel motivated to engage in personal attacks against him. I've noticed an honest evolution in his views over the years.
 He has produced some interesting research into 9/11, certainly more valuable than that of most of his detractors. I have no interest in defending his work or his life as whole. For awhile I wondered if Ruppert was an Israeli op, since he leaned so heavily on the anti-Semitism smear to try to obstruct honest discussion about Israel, but he gradually modified and revised his thoughts on this subject when he was confronted with some unassailable facts.3. Both Kris Millegan and Steve Hager have made wild and inaccurate charges about a number of subjects with which I am intimately familiar. I regard neither of them, or anyone associated with High Times, as serious historians or political analysts. They are in the conspiracy entertainment business, and certainly represent no threat to the real powers that be. They are not remotely in the same league as Billmon, Craig Unger,
 David Ray Griffin, James Bamford, James Wolcott, Jeffrey Steinberg, Juan Cole, Kurt Nimmo, Jim Fetzer, Justin Raimondo, Patrick Lang, Paul Craig Roberts, Robert Dreyfuss, Robert Parry, Sidney Blumenthal, Steven Sniegoski, xymphora and many other investigators into deep politics. Their analysis of contemporary politics is poorly informed and close to useless, when it is not outright laughably delusional.4. High Times and similar publications are not treated as a serious sources in the graduate schools and research centers at the elite universities which produce minds which actually have some grasp of what is going on in the real world of power elite politics. Knowledgeable insiders are reading advanced technical and scholarly journals and reports with a clear head, not getting stoned and wanking over whatever free association fantasies float into view. Conspiracy scholarship and
 conspiracy entertainment are two entirely different and contradictory fields of activity.5. Real conspirators control the conspiracy entertainment business and use it to flood the world with distracting conspiracy disinformation. Real conspiracies are always uncovered by a simple formula: follow the money to the top of the food chain. The main goal of conspiracy disinformation is to obstruct the process of following the money to the top of the food chain.phoenix420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  There are a couple more interesting details:Al Carone was a Knight of Malta, Gambino crime captain, NYC police officer, Army intel officer, and bagman for many ops during Nixon era. He lost faith in his handlers, tried to escape and was "neutralized." Since his family knew many details, the handling of his children and relatives became important. Mike became the handler for Carone's daughter, who sued the US Government. When asked to write an expose of Carone for High Times, Mike left out the part about Carone being a Knight of Malta, which is like writing about GW Bush and leaving out Skull and Bones.Immediately after 9/11, Mike was flown to NYC to meet with prominent NYC members of the Muslim community for the purpose of telling them: "Israel had nothing to do with
 9/11."Considering the mover/filmers and the Mossad house down the street from Atta, that comment is pretty ridiculous. And how would anyone be able to prove a negative like that so close to the op anyway?And, of course, Vreeland (along with Webfairy's no planes) was the primary rabbit hole during the early days, and Mike put the lightening rod on that op. Sean was the primary and fanatical instigator against Vreeland from day one, which indicates Sean was likely privy to inside info. Sean was constantly attacking Mike at that time, a controlled dialectic no doubt.Then after having a huge spat with Berlet (which he posted to CIA-Drugs), Sean suddenly turns up "friends" with Mike?And so it goes  On Aug 19, 2006, at 11:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote:  I have met and worked with Mike Ruppert and I have found more questions than answers.Let me mention what I know and let you make up your own mind, When I put on the first CIA-Drugs Symposium, Mike stopped me from including Brian Quigg and Mike Levine there.Mike asked me in particular to try and get as many "aactivists" at the Eugene