[c-nsp] 7200/NPE-G1 WCCPv2 performance - L2 redirect vs GRE

2009-09-15 Thread Dale Shaw
Hi all,

Does anyone know whether there is any notable performance difference
with WCCPv2 using L2 redirect vs GRE as a packet forwarding method on
7200s? (NPE-400, NPE-G1,
NPE-G2)?

WCCPv2 is a heavy user of processor cycles on our 7200s so I'm looking
at ways to reduce the impact without performing major heart surgery.
Currently we use GRE but our WCCP-speaking systems (cisco WAAS) are L2
adjacent so L2 redirect is a feasible option.

I'm not familiar enough with the guts of CEF to know whether this is
likely to make a big difference, but I guess there has to be less work
in re-writing a MAC header than completely encapsulating a packet.

cheers,
Dale
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Re: [c-nsp] Problems creating a new BGP neighbor

2009-09-15 Thread Chris Mason (chrimaso)
Hi Mihai,

Check out CSCsz68307 - this occurs when someone attempts to configure an 
invalid IP address as a BGP peer - after that you are unable to create any 
additional peers as you get the error message *% Create the peer-group first.

To resolve the problem you either need to reload the box or configure no 
parser cache - the latter being more preferable.

Hope that helps,
Chris

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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mihai Campean
Sent: 14 September 2009 14:34
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Problems creating a new BGP neighbor

Hi,
today I tried to create a new bgp neighbor, and the following message 
was prompted:
router1#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
router1(config)#router bgp 1235
router1(config-router)#neighbor 1.2.3.5 remote-as 1235
*% Create the peer-group first

*Has anyone encountered this?
The machine is a 7600 series router, running Cisco IOS Software, 
c7600rsp72043_rp Software (c7600rsp72043_rp-ADVIPSERVICES-M), Version 
12.2(33)SRC1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Any ideea if this is a known BUG, and if there is some command on the 
IOS that forces you to add a new neighbor to a peer-group?
Thanks,

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Re: [c-nsp] Problems creating a new BGP neighbor

2009-09-15 Thread Mihai Campean

Hi Chris,
I reloaded the box this morning, but I'll configure the command in order 
to prevent further issues :)

Thanks:)

Chris Mason (chrimaso) wrote:

Hi Mihai,

Check out CSCsz68307 - this occurs when someone attempts to configure an invalid IP 
address as a BGP peer - after that you are unable to create any additional peers as you 
get the error message *% Create the peer-group first.

To resolve the problem you either need to reload the box or configure no parser 
cache - the latter being more preferable.

Hope that helps,
Chris

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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mihai Campean
Sent: 14 September 2009 14:34
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Problems creating a new BGP neighbor

Hi,
today I tried to create a new bgp neighbor, and the following message 
was prompted:

router1#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
router1(config)#router bgp 1235
router1(config-router)#neighbor 1.2.3.5 remote-as 1235
*% Create the peer-group first

*Has anyone encountered this?
The machine is a 7600 series router, running Cisco IOS Software, 
c7600rsp72043_rp Software (c7600rsp72043_rp-ADVIPSERVICES-M), Version 
12.2(33)SRC1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Any ideea if this is a known BUG, and if there is some command on the 
IOS that forces you to add a new neighbor to a peer-group?

Thanks,

  


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Re: [c-nsp] instabilities with SXI2?

2009-09-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 05:53:07 am Alan Buxey wrote:

 and hope you dont hit another bug. waiting with intense
 interest for SXI3 which should stop the instant crash
 when using ISIS with IPv6 :-(

Are you seeing this in SXI2?

We are planning to move to SXI2a at the end of October.

We are currently running SXH3 with IS-IS supporting both v4 
and v6 address families. No issues with that today.

Cheers,

Mark.


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Re: [c-nsp] 12.2(18)SXD to 12.2(33)SRB|C|D

2009-09-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 04:39:53 am Richard A 
Steenbergen wrote:

 Personally my recommendation for going forward is SRC
 (SRC4 is pretty stable, all things considered).

Would also recommend SRC; we have it largely deployed on a 
number of 7200's.

SRC4 is stable, but a few issues, that will be resolved in 
SRC5, hound us. Nothing major, probably not faced by many 
others...

Point is, SRC is probably a more mature release.

Cheers,

Mark.


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Re: [c-nsp] dampening for VPNv4

2009-09-15 Thread Ved Labs
the culprit was CSCsy58115
what a relief 

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Ved Labs vedl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Ben for the directions .

 I enabled the bgp dampening for VPNv4 address-family .
 It helped to some extent to see the flapped statistics from the CE .
 I blocked one of the /16 network , which was flapping at a higher rate ,
 coming from CE.

 Still i do not see significant improvement in the CPU utilisation due to
 BGP router process.

 i can see some changes in prefixes recieved for the VPNv4 route reflector
 session.
 and there are around 2 prefixes coming from the VPVv4 RR.
 How do i find the culprit

 The router is 7206 with NPE-G1 .
 Could there be a memory or hardware limilitation also or some bug.

 Thanks,
 Ved.




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[c-nsp] debug bgp updates within VRF

2009-09-15 Thread Ved Labs
How do i *debug bgp updates within VRF*
**
*Thanks,*
*Biddu.*
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[c-nsp] Cisco NAC - SSO Issues

2009-09-15 Thread Antonio Soares
Hello group,

I'm troubleshooting a NAC issue. I see lot's of CLOSE_WAIT sessions on the CAS 
and i need to find a way to restart the SSO service
(TCP:8910) without restarting the whole box. Disabling the option Enable 
Agent-Based Windows Single Sign-On with Active Directory
(Kerberos) in the CAM does not do the job. I think that after clearing these 
TCP stuck sessions, Single Sign-On will work again.


Thanks.

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt


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Re: [c-nsp] 12.2(18)SXD to 12.2(33)SRB|C|D

2009-09-15 Thread Jason Lixfeld

Upgraded to SRC4 last night and everything went pretty smoothly.

A couple things I'm wondering if anyone has seen with SRC4:

1-  When SRC4 booted, we were a little paniced when we saw that a  
bunch of our SFP ports were now dark.  We resolved it by pulling the  
fiber and the SFP and reseating each.  The original theory in doing  
that was to check to see if the SFP was genuine Cisco to see if we  
needed to enable service unsupported-transceiver but the side-effect  
was that it actually brought the port up.  We were able to get all our  
dark ports up this way before enabling transceiver support so we don't  
think it was related to that command (but enabled it for good measure).


2- We had to enable ip mtu 1500 on a few interfaces that had their  
port mtu cranked into jumbo range for OSPF to work.  Why we didn't  
have to do this in SXD is curious, but we are happy that SRC operates  
correctly (by showing us where our configs were inconsistent).


3- There is one device on the network (an ASR1002 running 2.4.0) that  
is unable to see the loopback address via OSPF from this 7600 we just  
upgraded.  It's built an adjacency with the 7600, so it's not an MTU  
thing, it just doesnt see the route for it's loopback interface.  We  
didn't do much digging into it last night because there was an  
alternate path on the ASR so we felt we could leave it till the AM,  
but strange indeed.  It may too be a misconfguration that SRC expects,  
which SXD was relaxed about but I  thought I'd ask anyway.


On 2009-09-15, at 6:45 AM, Mark Tinka mti...@globaltransit.net wrote:


On Tuesday 15 September 2009 04:39:53 am Richard A
Steenbergen wrote:


Personally my recommendation for going forward is SRC
(SRC4 is pretty stable, all things considered).


Would also recommend SRC; we have it largely deployed on a
number of 7200's.

SRC4 is stable, but a few issues, that will be resolved in
SRC5, hound us. Nothing major, probably not faced by many
others...

Point is, SRC is probably a more mature release.

Cheers,

Mark.

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Re: [c-nsp] Cat 4948 NAT support

2009-09-15 Thread Rodney Dunn

The real issue with NAT today is ALG processing and scale.

My motto is if you are not going to sign up for full support in hardware 
on a box that can scale to 1+ Mpps don't bother half baking it.


I deal with a customer about once per week where they tried something 
like this.


The ASR1k (no I don't work for that BU) has it right. They do it all in 
the FP (translation setup, ALG, etc.) with no punts.


That's why the 6k doesn't scale even though it inherited NAT from the 
code base.


Rodney



Doug McIntyre wrote:

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 01:31:54PM -0400, Dan Benson wrote:
I have a 4948 that I was hoping to upgrade a few systems with but I am dead 
in the water as it seems it does not support NAT.


According to the NAT matrix:

http://supportwiki.cisco.com/ViewWiki/index.php/Network_Address_Translation_Catalyst_Switch_Support_Matrix

This matrix seems very outdated so it would explain why the 4900 product 
line is not listed.



If you notice, the *only* products listed there that supports it is
the Cat6500.

The Cat 5k RSM was a seperate bolt-on router on a blade that slid into
the chassis, and wasn't the switch engine at all. Anyway that stuff is
old and dead (and was slow). 

So, don't go searching for switches that support NAT, the Cat6500 is it. 

Cisco leaves NAT to firewalls and routers, not switches. 

FWIW: The 4948 is still very current hardware. 




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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NAC - SSO Issues

2009-09-15 Thread Antonio Soares
I found a matching bug in the meanwhile but the workaround does not work:

+
CSCsk46672 Bug Details
CAS stops listening on 8910 after threads in CLOSE_WAIT state

Symptom:
Agent fails to perform ADSSO

Conditions:
CAS no longer listening to tcp port 8910 because 50 threads are already in 
CLOSE_WAIT state

Workaround:
Under Device Management  Clean Access Servers  CAS  Windows Auth
Click UPDATE on SSO service to flush the CLOSE_WAIT states
+ 

The box i'm troubleshooting is running release 4.0.5.


Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt

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From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Antonio Soares
Sent: terça-feira, 15 de Setembro de 2009 13:57
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco NAC - SSO Issues

Hello group,

I'm troubleshooting a NAC issue. I see lot's of CLOSE_WAIT sessions on the CAS 
and i need to find a way to restart the SSO service
(TCP:8910) without restarting the whole box. Disabling the option Enable 
Agent-Based Windows Single Sign-On with Active Directory
(Kerberos) in the CAM does not do the job. I think that after clearing these 
TCP stuck sessions, Single Sign-On will work again.


Thanks.

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt


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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NAC - SSO Issues

2009-09-15 Thread Luan Nguyen
I would suggest opening a TAC case.
Also, for NAC related problem, the cleanacc...@listserv.muohio.edu would be
a better place to ask questions.

Regards,

--
Luan Nguyen
Chesapeake NetCraftsmen, LLC.
[Web] http://www.netcraftsmen.net



-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Antonio Soares
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:20 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NAC - SSO Issues

I found a matching bug in the meanwhile but the workaround does not work:

+
CSCsk46672 Bug Details
CAS stops listening on 8910 after threads in CLOSE_WAIT state

Symptom:
Agent fails to perform ADSSO

Conditions:
CAS no longer listening to tcp port 8910 because 50 threads are already in
CLOSE_WAIT state

Workaround:
Under Device Management  Clean Access Servers  CAS  Windows Auth
Click UPDATE on SSO service to flush the CLOSE_WAIT states
+ 

The box i'm troubleshooting is running release 4.0.5.


Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Antonio Soares
Sent: terça-feira, 15 de Setembro de 2009 13:57
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco NAC - SSO Issues

Hello group,

I'm troubleshooting a NAC issue. I see lot's of CLOSE_WAIT sessions on the
CAS and i need to find a way to restart the SSO service
(TCP:8910) without restarting the whole box. Disabling the option Enable
Agent-Based Windows Single Sign-On with Active Directory
(Kerberos) in the CAM does not do the job. I think that after clearing
these TCP stuck sessions, Single Sign-On will work again.


Thanks.

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt


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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NAC - SSO Issues

2009-09-15 Thread Antonio Soares
Thanks for pointing me to the right place.

In the meanwhile, i can say that the workaround mentioned in the Bug release 
notes worked as expected. 50 stucked TCP sessions were
cleared what was enough to recover normal behavior. I still have 200+ in 
CLOSED_WAIT state but the next reboot will take care of
that :)


Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt

-Original Message-
From: Luan Nguyen [mailto:l...@netcraftsmen.net] 
Sent: terça-feira, 15 de Setembro de 2009 15:54
To: 'Antonio Soares'; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Cisco NAC - SSO Issues

I would suggest opening a TAC case.
Also, for NAC related problem, the cleanacc...@listserv.muohio.edu would be a 
better place to ask questions.

Regards,

--
Luan Nguyen
Chesapeake NetCraftsmen, LLC.
[Web] http://www.netcraftsmen.net



-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Antonio Soares
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:20 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Cisco NAC - SSO Issues

I found a matching bug in the meanwhile but the workaround does not work:

+
CSCsk46672 Bug Details
CAS stops listening on 8910 after threads in CLOSE_WAIT state

Symptom:
Agent fails to perform ADSSO

Conditions:
CAS no longer listening to tcp port 8910 because 50 threads are already in 
CLOSE_WAIT state

Workaround:
Under Device Management  Clean Access Servers  CAS  Windows Auth Click 
UPDATE on SSO service to flush the CLOSE_WAIT states
+ 

The box i'm troubleshooting is running release 4.0.5.


Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Antonio Soares
Sent: terça-feira, 15 de Setembro de 2009 13:57
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco NAC - SSO Issues

Hello group,

I'm troubleshooting a NAC issue. I see lot's of CLOSE_WAIT sessions on the CAS 
and i need to find a way to restart the SSO service
(TCP:8910) without restarting the whole box. Disabling the option Enable 
Agent-Based Windows Single Sign-On with Active Directory
(Kerberos) in the CAM does not do the job. I think that after clearing these 
TCP stuck sessions, Single Sign-On will work again.


Thanks.

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt


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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco SCE 2020 and snmp question

2009-09-15 Thread Georgi Genov

Donato Dunguihual Morales wrote:

Hi,

I need to graph via snmp and  mrtg or rrdttool , ip traffic and 
protocols  for Cisco sce 2020 box.


I saw in  the web , the utility rtmcmd.   
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6135/products_user_guide09186a00808165dd.html#o16507. 



Iґm  trying to  run the scripts, in a linux server, with all  
requirements,  java , mrtg, rrdtool , but  i have the following error 
. Does anyone have any experience with this script or another form for 
generate a graph via snmp in SCE 2020?




#  ./rtmcmd.sh -S X.X.X:X -U user -P * --pqb-sce=X.X.X.X 
--source-dir=/templates --dest-dir=/rtm-output -c ./rtmcmd.cfg

connecting to X.X.X.X ... done
retrieving service configuration from SCE ... disconnecting from 
device ... done

Failed to retrieve service configuration from SCE X.X.X.X. Aborting!



Thanks in advance
Donato
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That can be done easy with cacti , here is the post
http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=30931start=0postdays=0postorder=aschighlight= 


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[c-nsp] SP-grade Ethernet over TDM

2009-09-15 Thread Justin Shore
Does anyone have any suggestions for providing Ethernet links over 
bonded T1s?


We originally looked at Overture.  They claimed that their product used 
standard MLPPP and interoped well with 7200s.  They sent out a tech to 
help configure it in a lab.  As it turns out they also require the use 
of BCP (Bridging Control Protocol).  To use BCP on a 7200 step #1 is to 
disable IP routing (literally, 'no ip routing').  That is required to 
facilitate bridging VLANs over MLPPP bundles.  Needless to say this 
wasn't an option since our router was doing more than just terminating 
EoTDM connections.  If we had an old 7200 sitting around we probably 
could have pulled it off.  Alternately, if we have a 7600 in that colo 
with DS3 SPAs we could have done the same thing without disabling 
routing.  I'm considering replacing that 7200 with an ASR in the future 
so perhaps this will become possible once again down the road, but not 
today.


I've also been looking at Adtran's Ethernet over TDM products.  It looks 
like you have to use their Total Access 5000 at the hub and then use 
their NetVanta 800 series as the CPE.  I don't know anything about the 
Total Access 5000 and can't access their documentation without an 
account (hard to sell the product when you won't let people access the 
docs beforehand).


Overture's CPEs for this application are the 140 and 180 models.  The 
price is right but the product just doesn't have a production SP-grade 
feel to it.  Management has to be done locally.  There isn't a CLI 
option which I would think would be a requirement for SPs wanting to 
either script changes or backup configurations.  It just doesn't feel 
production grade or SP-grade by any means.  It's not like their 2200 or 
5000 products which are much better.  I've always heard good things 
about Adtran and that they are Cisco-like but I've never actually used them.


What I'd like to find is a device that can bond multiple DS1s together 
with standards-based MLPPP and then bridge that to an Ethernet interface 
behind it.  I imagine that this would interop with our 7200s nicely.  It 
would be nice if there was some mechanism for in-line management as 
well, though I'm not sure how that would work short of pulling out a DS0 
for management access.  Does anyone know of such a product?  Does anyone 
know of any other ways of accomplishing that same or similar thing?  I 
don't know of any cisco products that can do this.  I could foresee a 
situation where I need multiple VLANs at the customer premise so the 
Adtran solution would likely fit in better with this potential need.


Thanks
 Justin

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[c-nsp] AnyConnect VPN client, IOS, and Vista

2009-09-15 Thread Jay Nakamura
Has anyone gotten AnyConnect client to work with IOS router and Vista?
 (With self signed cert?)

I got it to work with XP but not Vista.  Can someone share their
config or some pointers?

With Vista, it gets to the cert warning part, then dies.

aaa authentication login ciscocp_vpn_xauth_ml_1 group radius
crypto pki trustpoint someVPN
 enrollment selfsigned
 serial-number none
 ip-address none
 subject-name CN=vpn, O=somedomain.com, ST=IN, C=US
 revocation-check crl
 rsakeypair someVPN_RSAKey 1024
!
!
crypto pki certificate chain FirstCapitalVPN
 certificate self-signed 01
SNIP
quit
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/0
 ip address w.x.y.z 255.255.255.240
 ip nat outside
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
 ip address 10.0.0.254 255.255.255.0
 ip nat inside
!
ip local pool VPNPOOL 192.168.100.1 192.168.100.254
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 w.x.y.z1
!
radius-server host 10.0.0.26 auth-port 1645 acct-port 1646 key 7
03051418135F724216051C171C005F180C333970
!
webvpn gateway gateway_1
 ip address w.x.y.z port 443
 http-redirect port 80
 ssl trustpoint someVPN
 inservice
 !
webvpn install svc flash:/webvpn/anyconnect-win-2.3.2016-k9.pkg sequence 1
 !
webvpn install svc
flash:/webvpn/anyconnect-macosx-i386-2.3.2016-k9.pkg sequence 2
 !
webvpn install svc
flash:/webvpn/anyconnect-macosx-powerpc-2.3.2016-k9.pkg sequence 3
 !
webvpn install svc
flash:/webvpn/anyconnect-wince-ARMv4I-2.3.2016-k9.pkg sequence 4
 !
webvpn context webvpn
 secondary-color white
 title-color #66
 text-color black
 ssl authenticate verify all
 !
 !
 policy group policy_1
   functions svc-enabled
   svc address-pool VPNPOOL
   svc default-domain somedomain.com
   svc keep-client-installed
   svc split dns somedomain.com
   svc split include 10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0
   svc dns-server primary 10.0.0.26
   svc dns-server secondary 10.0.0.6
   svc wins-server primary 10.0.0.26
   svc wins-server secondary 10.0.0.6
 default-group-policy policy_1
 aaa authentication list ciscocp_vpn_xauth_ml_1
 gateway gateway_1
 inservice
!
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Re: [c-nsp] SP-grade Ethernet over TDM

2009-09-15 Thread Roland Dobbins


On Sep 16, 2009, at 12:14 AM, Justin Shore wrote:

Does anyone have any suggestions for providing Ethernet links over  
bonded T1s?



Yes - don't do it, given that the basic premise of running layer-2  
between sites is a Very Bad Idea, much less trying to do it over  
bonded T1s, heh.


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[c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Jay Hennigan
What the #$^$...@# is going on with Cisco's download site?  It completely 
hangs Firefox with some shopping cart java thing.  And this is downright 
scary:  http://www.west.net/~jay/images/cisco-wants-root.png


Enhanced downloads, brought to you by the same people who brought us 
enhanced interrogation?


Is there a workaround?  What happened to our friend kobayashi ?

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Re: [c-nsp] SP-grade Ethernet over TDM

2009-09-15 Thread sthaug
  Does anyone have any suggestions for providing Ethernet links over  
  bonded T1s?
 
 
 Yes - don't do it, given that the basic premise of running layer-2  
 between sites is a Very Bad Idea, much less trying to do it over  
 bonded T1s, heh.

In general I would agree. However, there is quite a bit of experience
with Ethernet over bonded SHDSL lines. And it works quite well. See
for instance

   http://www.zhone.com/products/ETHX-3300/

I would be rather surprised if Ethernet over bonded T1s performed
significantly worse...

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no
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Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou

It should work after you allow it.

Btw, it took me 1 hour to download an ASR1k IOS today with the new downloader!!!
And i couldn't find another way to download it.

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Jay Hennigan wrote on 15/09/2009 20:39:
What the #$^$...@# is going on with Cisco's download site?  It completely 
hangs Firefox with some shopping cart java thing.  And this is downright 
scary:  http://www.west.net/~jay/images/cisco-wants-root.png


Enhanced downloads, brought to you by the same people who brought us 
enhanced interrogation?


Is there a workaround?  What happened to our friend kobayashi ?

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Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Jay Hennigan

Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:

It should work after you allow it.


Why should I need to allow Unrestricted access to my computer in order 
to download a file?  What exactly is that Java applet doing?  Could it 
do something malicious?  How do you know for sure?


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Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Church, Charles
It looks like it needs unrestricted access so that it can access your file 
system, since it presents its own file manager looking thing so you can pick 
where to save the files.  No way to know for sure though.

Chuck

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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jay Hennigan
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:09 PM
To: Cisco Mailing list
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure


Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:
 It should work after you allow it.

Why should I need to allow Unrestricted access to my computer in order 
to download a file?  What exactly is that Java applet doing?  Could it 
do something malicious?  How do you know for sure?

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Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Seth Mattinen
Jay Hennigan wrote:
 Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:
 It should work after you allow it.
 
 Why should I need to allow Unrestricted access to my computer in order
 to download a file?  What exactly is that Java applet doing?  Could it
 do something malicious?  How do you know for sure?
 

I can't even get that far. The stupid thing just says This image has
already been added to cart right along with 0 items.

Thanks Cisco for being dipsh*ts.

~Seth
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Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Jared Mauch


On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Church, Charles wrote:

It looks like it needs unrestricted access so that it can access  
your file system, since it presents its own file manager looking  
thing so you can pick where to save the files.  No way to know for  
sure though.



Another reason to use LYNX to download software.

- Jared
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Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Jay Hennigan

Church, Charles wrote:

It looks like it needs unrestricted access so that it can access your file 
system, since it presents its own file manager looking thing so you can pick 
where to save the files.  No way to know for sure though.


But every browser has a built-in download utility so this is worthless 
complexity and a potential security hole.  It also completely breaks 
lynx and wget, and the benefits are exactly what?


Do the people at Cisco have any idea that this so-called improvement is 
actually a hindrance?


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Re: [c-nsp] SP-grade Ethernet over TDM

2009-09-15 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
Top posting since it's so brief.

http://www.radware.com - they have all different manner of conversion
technologies in their product set.

Mike

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 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
 boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Justin Shore
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:14 AM
 To: 'Cisco-nsp'
 Subject: [c-nsp] SP-grade Ethernet over TDM
 
 Does anyone have any suggestions for providing Ethernet links over
 bonded T1s?
 
 We originally looked at Overture.  They claimed that their product
used
 standard MLPPP and interoped well with 7200s.  They sent out a tech to
 help configure it in a lab.  As it turns out they also require the use
 of BCP (Bridging Control Protocol).  To use BCP on a 7200 step #1 is
to
 disable IP routing (literally, 'no ip routing').  That is required to
 facilitate bridging VLANs over MLPPP bundles.  Needless to say this
 wasn't an option since our router was doing more than just terminating
 EoTDM connections.  If we had an old 7200 sitting around we probably
 could have pulled it off.  Alternately, if we have a 7600 in that colo
 with DS3 SPAs we could have done the same thing without disabling
 routing.  I'm considering replacing that 7200 with an ASR in the
future
 so perhaps this will become possible once again down the road, but not
 today.
 
 I've also been looking at Adtran's Ethernet over TDM products.  It
 looks
 like you have to use their Total Access 5000 at the hub and then use
 their NetVanta 800 series as the CPE.  I don't know anything about the
 Total Access 5000 and can't access their documentation without an
 account (hard to sell the product when you won't let people access the
 docs beforehand).
 
 Overture's CPEs for this application are the 140 and 180 models.  The
 price is right but the product just doesn't have a production SP-grade
 feel to it.  Management has to be done locally.  There isn't a CLI
 option which I would think would be a requirement for SPs wanting to
 either script changes or backup configurations.  It just doesn't feel
 production grade or SP-grade by any means.  It's not like their 2200
or
 5000 products which are much better.  I've always heard good things
 about Adtran and that they are Cisco-like but I've never actually used
 them.
 
 What I'd like to find is a device that can bond multiple DS1s together
 with standards-based MLPPP and then bridge that to an Ethernet
 interface
 behind it.  I imagine that this would interop with our 7200s nicely.
 It
 would be nice if there was some mechanism for in-line management as
 well, though I'm not sure how that would work short of pulling out a
 DS0
 for management access.  Does anyone know of such a product?  Does
 anyone
 know of any other ways of accomplishing that same or similar thing?  I
 don't know of any cisco products that can do this.  I could foresee a
 situation where I need multiple VLANs at the customer premise so the
 Adtran solution would likely fit in better with this potential need.
 
 Thanks
   Justin
 
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Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Jared Mauch


On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:


Jay Hennigan wrote:

Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:

It should work after you allow it.


Why should I need to allow Unrestricted access to my computer in  
order
to download a file?  What exactly is that Java applet doing?  Could  
it

do something malicious?  How do you know for sure?



I can't even get that far. The stupid thing just says This image has
already been added to cart right along with 0 items.

Thanks Cisco for being dipsh*ts.



https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/2009-August/063367.html
https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/2009-August/063276.html
https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/2009-August/063209.html

Go ahead and nag these folks, They asked for it.

- Jared
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Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Jared Mauch


On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Jay Hennigan wrote:


Church, Charles wrote:
It looks like it needs unrestricted access so that it can access  
your file system, since it presents its own file manager looking  
thing so you can pick where to save the files.  No way to know for  
sure though.


But every browser has a built-in download utility so this is  
worthless complexity and a potential security hole.  It also  
completely breaks lynx and wget, and the benefits are exactly what?


Do the people at Cisco have any idea that this so-called improvement  
is actually a hindrance?


No.

They don't care.

Just like this person, but at least this was a joke:

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/76/76aphonecompany.phtml

- Jared

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Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Rodney Dunn
Please check the email thread a week or so back where I gave the direct 
contacts for feedback.


They are open and want to hear helpful constructive feedback.

Rodney



Seth Mattinen wrote:

Jay Hennigan wrote:

Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:

It should work after you allow it.

Why should I need to allow Unrestricted access to my computer in order
to download a file?  What exactly is that Java applet doing?  Could it
do something malicious?  How do you know for sure?



I can't even get that far. The stupid thing just says This image has
already been added to cart right along with 0 items.

Thanks Cisco for being dipsh*ts.

~Seth
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Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou

You probably need to enabled cookies.

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Seth Mattinen wrote on 15/09/2009 21:22:

Jay Hennigan wrote:

Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:

It should work after you allow it.

Why should I need to allow Unrestricted access to my computer in order
to download a file?  What exactly is that Java applet doing?  Could it
do something malicious?  How do you know for sure?



I can't even get that far. The stupid thing just says This image has
already been added to cart right along with 0 items.

Thanks Cisco for being dipsh*ts.

~Seth
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Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Seth Mattinen
Jared Mauch wrote:
 
 On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Church, Charles wrote:
 
 It looks like it needs unrestricted access so that it can access your
 file system, since it presents its own file manager looking thing so
 you can pick where to save the files.  No way to know for sure though.
 
 
 Another reason to use LYNX to download software.
 

Is that even possible anymore with the changes they've made?

~Seth
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Re: [c-nsp] MPLS TE Fast Re-route

2009-09-15 Thread Yan Filyurin
When you say backup path for patch-protection, are you talking about path 
protection?  I've never done path protection, but it is slightly slower than 
FRR with link or node protection to converge, but  from what I understand it is 
alternative to FRR that does link and node and the path gets set up in advance, 
so bandwidth has to be reserved, but then again you don't have to reserve too 
much bandwidth, as the path is backup and its reservation should not interfere 
in the rservation of other primary paths. 

As far as MPLS link and node and protection where FRR comes in, same thing 
happens.  The path gets set up in advance and you can protect multiple links 
with one backup path in case of link and node protection and if you do MPLS TE 
mesh groups (of which I only read about and see in the lab) you can have 
relatively easy configuration, but possibly too much troubleshooting.  So, the 
path is set up in advance and you can either set this up to protect until the 
primary tunnel fixes itself through another path, or in some cases when you 
don't want it happen you can keep it going on the backup path until the primary 
tunnel fixes itself by another path going back up.  So to answer your question, 
the path is built, and show mpls tra fa da (too lazy to type it up) should 
show you the info for the backup path.  At least that is how I remember it, os 
the path is built and ready for failure. 

But I think you know all that anyway.  I've only read about this, but there is 
a concept of using backup tunnel bandwidth protection where you can say how 
much bandwidth of all primary tunnels it is protecting can go on it. OPNET if 
you have access to it (and it is too expensive for most people to use it) is 
good about calculating just how to best plan for various outages and what 
happens when various outages in a TE environment happen. 

Yan





From: Charlie Greenaway charlie.greena...@btinet.bt.com
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Subject: [c-nsp] MPLS TE Fast Re-route

Hi,

I have a question on MPLS TE and Fast Re-Route.

I have a test network and I want to check that the behaviour I am seeing is 
correct.

When you set-up an backup path for patch-protection, it would seem that RSVP 
sends signalling messages down the backup path to reserve the bandwidth.  
However, it does not seem to build an LSP and assign labels to it until the 
primary path breaks.  Is this correct?  Has anyone got any advice on using MPLS 
FRR?

Thanks,

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[c-nsp] LLDP between a 6500 and a 3750

2009-09-15 Thread Colin Whittaker
Having a wierd issue with LLDP between a 6500 and a 3750
There are two gig links which are in a port channel.
The 6500 (r2 below) sees a lldp neighbor on both ports but the 3750 only
shows the 6500 being a neighbor on the port which it has most recently
received an update. This is breaking some of our automated tests to make
sure switches have been correctly cabled which we are trying to make
more multivendor capable. 

Has anyone seen anything like this before.

r2#sh lldp neighbors

Capability codes:
(R) Router, (B) Bridge, (T) Telephone, (C) DOCSIS Cable Device
(W) WLAN Access Point, (P) Repeater, (S) Station, (O) Other

Device ID   Local Intf Hold-time  Capability  Port ID
acc-sw  Gi3/9  120Gi2/0/1
acc-sw  Gi3/10 120Gi2/0/2

acc-sw#sh lldp neighbors

Capability codes:
(R) Router, (B) Bridge, (T) Telephone, (C) DOCSIS Cable Device
(W) WLAN Access Point, (P) Repeater, (S) Station, (O) Other

Device ID   Local Intf Hold-time  Capability  Port ID
r2  Gi2/0/160 R   desc

Total entries displayed: 2

acc-sw#sh lldp neighbors

Capability codes:
(R) Router, (B) Bridge, (T) Telephone, (C) DOCSIS Cable Device
(W) WLAN Access Point, (P) Repeater, (S) Station, (O) Other

Device ID   Local Intf Hold-time  Capability  Port ID
r2  Gi2/0/260 R   desc


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Re: [c-nsp] Enhanced download procedure

2009-09-15 Thread Judah Scott
I agree 100%  It makes no sense to force people to use proprietary download
managers, especially when they fund the bandwidth used to retrieve the
file.  :thumbdown:



On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote:

 Jared Mauch wrote:
 
  On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Church, Charles wrote:
 
  It looks like it needs unrestricted access so that it can access your
  file system, since it presents its own file manager looking thing so
  you can pick where to save the files.  No way to know for sure though.
 
 
  Another reason to use LYNX to download software.
 

 Is that even possible anymore with the changes they've made?

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[c-nsp] ASA5505, Restricted VLAN VPN

2009-09-15 Thread Dave Brockman
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Hello all, first time poster, please be gentle...

I have a client scenario that I can't work out in the lab for a few
days, hoping someone here might already know if it is possible or not.

I have a client with an ASA5505, base license, currently utilizing the
restricted VLAN to provide access to the internet only, across the
outside interface.  Is it possible to make a VPN connection from the
restricted VLAN via (I assume) the outside interface, and gain
connectivity to the inside interface across said VPN?  I've been able
to do similar things with IOS routers in the past, I just can't nail
down from the documentation if this would be allowed on an ASA utilizing
the included restricted VLAN.  Thanks in advance for any insight.

Regards,

dtb
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Re: [c-nsp] ASA5505, Restricted VLAN VPN

2009-09-15 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
Hello Dave:

snip
 Hello all, first time poster, please be gentle...
 
 I have a client scenario that I can't work out in the lab for a few
 days, hoping someone here might already know if it is possible or not.
 
 I have a client with an ASA5505, base license, currently utilizing the
 restricted VLAN to provide access to the internet only, across the
 outside interface.  Is it possible to make a VPN connection from the
 restricted VLAN via (I assume) the outside interface, and gain
 connectivity to the inside interface across said VPN?  I've been
able
 to do similar things with IOS routers in the past, I just can't nail
 down from the documentation if this would be allowed on an ASA
 utilizing
 the included restricted VLAN.  Thanks in advance for any insight.
 
 Regards,
 
 dtb
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What do you mean by restricted VLAN?  The inside and outside, let's call
them VLAN 1 and VLAN 2, should both work unrestricted.  The restricted
VLAN is the third VLAN you would use for a DMZ.  If you go with the two
regular VLAN's then you will be able to establish VPN connectivity from
outside to inside with no technical difficulties.  You may, however,
have licensing restrictions if you're attempting to do SSL-based VLAN's.

Regards,

Mike
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[c-nsp] RSVP MPLS Fast Reroute PLR Behavior

2009-09-15 Thread Judah Scott
While testing out Fast Reroute I notice that after a linkdown and successful
FRR switch onto bypass, the SUT does not switch back to the primary path
after link is restored and IGP reconverges.  Is this expected behavior or am
I perhaps missing some important config statement?  I am testing on 7609s
with version 12.2(33)SRD.

Thanks,
J Scott
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Re: [c-nsp] debug bgp updates within VRF

2009-09-15 Thread Tony
Hi Biddu,

If you wish to see route table updates, then you can use debug ip routing vrf 
name. This will show you the updates as they are applied to the VRF routing 
table.

If you wish to see what BGP specifically is doing then something like deb ip 
bgp vpnv4 unicast updates should help you out. You will see routes like  
100:1:10.200.0.189/32 which is 10.200.0.189 for VRF with RD 100:1.


Hope this helps.

regards,
Tony.




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 How do i *debug bgp updates within
 VRF*
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 *Thanks,*
 *Biddu.*



  
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Re: [c-nsp] RSVP MPLS Fast Reroute PLR Behavior

2009-09-15 Thread sthaug
 While testing out Fast Reroute I notice that after a linkdown and successful
 FRR switch onto bypass, the SUT does not switch back to the primary path
 after link is restored and IGP reconverges.  Is this expected behavior or am
 I perhaps missing some important config statement?  I am testing on 7609s
 with version 12.2(33)SRD.

As far as I know this the expected behavior. MPLS explicit LSPs will
be reoptimized at intervals you specify, but it doesn't necessarily
happen right away. We have typically configured a reoptimization
interval of 1 hour.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no
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