[c-nsp] 10Gig DWDM fluctuating

2010-08-04 Thread Good One



I am trying to find out what is causing my link to go down either the transmit 
power or a receive power. Below are the parameters of link having a 
connectivity issue of DWDM transmission. The problem is sometimes it works and 
sometime it does not and transmission guys keep insisting that your transmit 
power is low. Now the question is if the transmit power is low, can you 
increase it for a particular link. Physical interface: xe-4/2/0Laser bias 
current:  33.111 mALaser output power   
 :  0.4410 mW / -3.56 dBmModule temperature
:  30 degrees C / 86 degrees FLaser rx power:  
0.2516 mW / -5.99 dBmI have another link over same DWDM transmission which is 
working quite fine for days. The following are the parameters for that 
link.Physical interface: xe-4/3/0Laser bias current
:  32.748 mALaser output power:  0.5060 mW!
  / -2.96 dBmModule temperature:  31 degrees C / 88 
degrees FLaser rx power:  0.2538 mW / -5.96 
dBmI would appreciate it if someone can describe it in detail that what could 
be the reason causing this link to fluctuate randomly. ThanksAndrew 

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Re: [c-nsp] OpenSource Cisco Monitoring Tool

2010-08-04 Thread Alan Buxey
What do you want to do or monitor? All of the usual open source tools work 
great with that ... be it RTG , mrtg, smokeping, fping netdisco etc

Alan

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Re: [c-nsp] Odd error after Interface flap [GSR/Engine 5]

2010-08-04 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
 I have seen the same messages recently on several slots after TE
tunnels
 flap, but they caused a lot of issues (FIA errors, CEF disable and so
on).
 
 %EE48-3-QM_SANITY_WARNING: Few free buffers(0) are available in ToFab
FreeQ
 pool# 3
 %EE48-3-QM_SANITY_WARNING: Few free buffers(0) are available in ToFab
FreeQ
 pool# 1
 %EE48-3-QM_SANITY_WARNING: Few free buffers(0) are available in ToFab
FreeQ
 pool# 1
...
 %EE48-3-QM_SANITY_WARNING: ToFab FreeQ buffers depleted. Recarving the
ToFab
 buffers
 %EE192-3-BM_QUIESCE:
 Rx FIM/LIM failed to go idle. Value: 0x5000
 -Traceback= 400312FC 4063DD24 4063DE50 40648B48 40648BAC 40636B08
40B13274
 403CAC4C 40107ED4 400AF4A0 400DB2F4 400DB2E0
 
 The version is 12.0(33)S6 and the modules are Engine 5...
 
 It seems a bug. What would cause this?

I guess there are mulitple aspects here:
a) Something causes the buffers to be depleted
b) QM-sanity kicks in, notices that something is really wrong and tries
to remedy the lack of buffers by re-carving the pool
c) re-carving causes CEF issues

Are you able to reproduce the issue? If so, it might make sense to a)
try to disable qm sanity check and see if it makes a difference (no
hw-module slot n qm-sanity both), I somehow would expect you to see
other problems with traffic not going through, and b) work with TAC on
finding the cause why buffers are not freed up, and root cause of
FIA/CEF errors when re-carving the buffer (it doesn't surprise me, but
this should not happen).

oli
 

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[c-nsp] problem with 7609

2010-08-04 Thread Piotr Chytla
Hi,

Experts , I need advise , I've problem with my 7609-S with  IOS 12.3(33) SRB1,
after applying 'ip policy route-map' to TenGig interfece, my RSP720 crashed 


Hardware details :

Mod Ports Card Type  Model  Serial No.
--- - -- -- ---
  10  4-subslot SPA Interface Processor-400  7600-SIP-400   JAE
  24  CEF720 4 port 10-Gigabit Ethernet  WS-X6704-10GE  SAL
  3   48  CEF720 48 port 1000mb SFP  WS-X6748-SFP   SAL
  40  4-subslot SPA Interface Processor-400  7600-SIP-400   JAE
  52  Route Switch Processor 720 (Active)RSP720-3CXL-GE JAE
  7   48  CEF720 48 port 10/100/1000mb Ethernet  WS-X6748-GE-TX SAL
  80  4-subslot SPA Interface Processor-400  7600-SIP-400   JAE
  90  4-subslot SPA Interface Processor-400  7600-SIP-400   JAE

All four SIP-400 are disabled - 'PwrDown' state.

Interface are nothing fancy : 

interface TenGigabitEthernet2/1
 ip address X.X.248.202 255.255.255.252
 no ip proxy-arp
 no ip redirects
 no ip unreachables
 logging event link-status
end

And route-map ; 

route-map RTR01-NH, permit, sequence 10
  Match clauses:
ip address (access-lists): 102
  Set clauses:
ip next-hop verify-availability X.X.32.34 10 track 1  [up]
  Policy routing matches: 0 packets, 0 bytes

Extended IP access list 102
10 permit ip any X.X.120.0 0.0.0.127

Traffic with destination IP in access-list 102 , goes to other gateway . After 
applying 
'ip policy route-map RTR01-NH' to Te2/1 RSP crashed . After switchover backup 
RSP crashed 
after EARL tried to recover hardware problem .

Second crash :

Cisco IOS Software, c7600rsp72043_rp Software 
(c7600rsp72043_rp-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.2(33)SR
C2, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)
Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
Copyright (c) 1986-2008 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 18-Sep-08 03:16 by prod_rel_team
*Jul 20 15:56:26.628: %SSH-5-ENABLED: SSH 2.0 has been enabled
*Jul 20 13:55:44.575: %SYS-SP-3-LOGGER_FLUSHED: System was paused for 00:00:00 
to ensure console debug
ging output.

Firmware compiled 07-Jul-08 00:53 by integ Build [100]
*Jul 20 13:56:16.711: %SPANTREE-SP-5-EXTENDED_SYSID: Extended SysId enabled for 
type vlan
*Jul 20 13:56:16.903: SP: SP: Currently running ROMMON from S (Gold) region
*Jul 20 13:56:21.902: %C7600_PWR-SP-4-PSCOMBINEDMODE: power supplies set to 
combined mode.
*Jul 20 13:56:26.448: %SYS-SP-5-RESTART: System restarted --
Cisco IOS Software, c7600rsp72043_sp Software 
(c7600rsp72043_sp-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.2(33)SR
C2, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)
Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
Copyright (c) 1986-2008 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 18-Sep-08 03:46 by prod_rel_team
*Jul 20 13:56:27.504: %OIR-SP-6-INSPS: Power supply inserted in slot 1
*Jul 20 13:56:27.508: %C7600_PWR-SP-4-PSOK: power supply 1 turned on.
*Jul 20 13:56:27.568: %OIR-SP-6-INSPS: Power supply inserted in slot 2
*Jul 20 13:56:27.572: %C7600_PWR-SP-4-PSOK: power supply 2 turned on.
*Jul 20 13:56:30.160: %C7600_PWR-SP-4-DISABLED: power to module in slot 1 set 
off (admin request)
*Jul 20 13:56:31.200: %C7600_PWR-SP-4-DISABLED: power to module in slot 4 set 
off (admin request)
*Jul 20 15:56:34.884: %DIAG-SP-6-RUN_MINIMUM: Module 5: Running Minimal 
Diagnostics...
*Jul 20 15:56:39.652: %OIR-6-REMCARD: Card removed from slot 1, interfaces 
disabled
*Jul 20 15:56:39.660: %SPA_OIR-6-OFFLINECARD: SPA (SPA-1XOC48POS/RPR) offline 
in subslot 1/0
*Jul 20 15:56:39.660: %OIR-6-REMCARD: Card removed from slot 4, interfaces 
disabled
*Jul 20 15:56:39.664: %SPA_OIR-6-OFFLINECARD: SPA (SPA-1XOC48POS/RPR) offline 
in subslot 4/0
*Jul 20 15:56:39.664: %OIR-6-REMCARD: Card removed from slot 8, interfaces 
disabled
*Jul 20 15:56:39.668: %SPA_OIR-6-OFFLINECARD: SPA (SPA-1XOC48POS/RPR) offline 
in subslot 8/0
*Jul 20 15:56:39.668: %OIR-6-REMCARD: Card removed from slot 9, interfaces 
disabled
*Jul 20 15:56:39.668: %SPA_OIR-6-OFFLINECARD: SPA (SPA-1XOC48POS/RPR) offline 
in subslot 9/0
*Jul 20 15:56:39.312: %DIAG-SP-6-DIAG_OK: Module 5: Passed Online Diagnostics
*Jul 20 15:56:40.088: %OIR-SP-6-INSCARD: Card inserted in slot 5, interfaces 
are now online
*Jul 20 15:56:57.504: %PFREDUN-SP-6-ACTIVE: Standby initializing for SSO mode
[..]
*Jul 20 15:57:31.817: %FABRIC-SP-5-CLEAR_BLOCK: Clear block option is off for 
the fabric in slot 6.
*Jul 20 15:57:31.901: %FABRIC-SP-5-FABRIC_MODULE_BACKUP: The Switch Fabric 
Module in slot 6 became
+standby
*Jul 20 15:57:32.653: %DIAG-SP-6-RUN_MINIMUM: Module 6: Running Minimal 
Diagnostics...
*Jul 20 15:57:33.173: %DIAG-SP-6-DIAG_OK: Module 6: Passed Online Diagnostics
*Jul 20 15:57:34.593: %OIR-SP-6-INSCARD: Card inserted in slot 6, interfaces 
are now online
*Jul 20 15:57:58.997: %DIAG-SP-6-RUN_MINIMUM: Module 7: Running Minimal 
Diagnostics...
*Jul 20 15:58:07.981: 

Re: [c-nsp] Match-in-VRF

2010-08-04 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
 
 Was hoping someone could advise with regards to what the NAT keywords
 match-in-vrf achieves? We typically use this in production. However,
Ive
 just
 been labbing NAT config using VRF lite and it doesnt appear to change
 behaviour
 and Cisco literature is unclear. With or without it, translations
occur in
 the
 relevant VRF.
 
not an expert, but do you use overlapping pools between vrfs? If you are
not, you don't need match-in-vrf.. take a look at
http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Category:NAT

oli

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Re: [c-nsp] 10Gig DWDM fluctuating

2010-08-04 Thread sthaug
 I am trying to find out what is causing my link to go down either the 
 transmit power or a receive power. Below are the parameters of link having a 
 connectivity issue of DWDM transmission. The problem is sometimes it works 
 and sometime it does not and transmission guys keep insisting that your 
 transmit power is low. Now the question is if the transmit power is low, can 
 you increase it for a particular link. Physical interface: xe-4/2/0Laser 
 bias current:  33.111 mALaser output power
 :  0.4410 mW / -3.56 dBmModule temperature
 :  30 degrees C / 86 degrees FLaser rx power  
   :  0.2516 mW / -5.99 dBmI have another link over same DWDM transmission 
 which is working quite fine for days. The following are the parameters for 
 that link.Physical interface: xe-4/3/0Laser bias current  
   :  32.748 mALaser output power:  0.5060 !
 mW!
   / -2.96 dBmModule temperature:  31 degrees C / 
 88 degrees FLaser rx power:  0.2538 mW / 
 -5.96 dBmI would appreciate it if someone can describe it in detail that what 
 could be the reason causing this link to fluctuate randomly. ThanksAndrew 
   
Why are you asking about what appears to be Juniper equipment on a 
Cisco list?

Btw, your transmit and receive signal levels seem completely normal.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no
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[c-nsp] Cisco3750 %AAA-3-BADMETHOD

2010-08-04 Thread Chris Lane
All,

Running a C3750 48TS on 12.2(35)SE2 . Used very simple AAA method for
authentication with radius, 4 lines of AAA.
Happened to log into router today only to notice that i can't configure
device, my credentials don't match and i have this in the log

%AAA-3-BADMETHOD

This entry is on AUG 2nd, and the last NVRAM change was done on July29th -
and it was simple vlan addition.
The most alarming problem was when i did a SHOW RUN, there were almost 20
AAA commands that myself or the 29th UPDATED CONFIG did not add.
On Aug 2nd the log does not show any user access just the above with a bunch
of memory dumps, as it appears. Unfortunately i did not grab the LOG itself.
ugg.

Issue, i figured by rebooting the last NVRAM change on JULY 29th i would
regain my original config from the 29th and remove these randomly issued
commands. This is a remote router fyi:
router did not respond well to reload and did not come back.  Oh and on
reboot i did NOT save changes to Config preserving July 29th NVRAM change.

Has anyone Seen such wierd oddity?

I have to repeat, the logs do not indicate user Access to the box, which the
box does log, on Aug 2nd, just the above error with 2 full log lines full of
what appears to be a memory dump of some sort.

And lastly Cisco's website shows this for the Above error:

AAA-3-BADMETHOD : Cannot process [chars] method [int]

ExplanationA method list function has encountered a method list that was
unknown or that could not be processed.

Recommended ActionCopy the error message exactly as it appears on the
console or in the system log, contact your Cisco technical support
representative, and provide the representative with the gathered
information.



Wow, thats helpful  ;-)

Much regards

Chris
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS Release 15.0S for the Cisco 7600 and Cisco 10000 series routers

2010-08-04 Thread Nick Hilliard

On 04/08/2010 12:54, Antonio Soares wrote:

Cisco IOS Release 15S initiates a consolidated support strategy to provide
greater consistency in new feature release and rebuild schedules and to
simplify the software selection process. The release numbering has changed
from 12.2SR to 15S to support this strategy and simplified software
selection process.


Not really - this is just a name change.  Everything else appears to be the 
same (i.e. supported platforms, etc).


My understanding of 15.0 was that the original plan was that there was 
going to be just two trains: the T and the M.  Now there's S, and a bunch 
of short-lived trains, too.


That's good: soon, it'll be just like the old days of 12.4! :-)

Nick

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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS Release 15.0S for the Cisco 7600 and Cisco 10000 series routers

2010-08-04 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 12:54:47PM +0100, Antonio Soares wrote:
 Cisco IOS Release 15S initiates a consolidated support strategy to provide
 greater consistency in new feature release and rebuild schedules and to
 simplify the software selection process. The release numbering has changed
 from 12.2SR to 15S to support this strategy and simplified software
 selection process.

Yes, especially given the observation that 15.0S seems to be just a 
renamed 12.2SR, and does not have the 15.0M feature set...

Seems too many customers have complained that they do not want this
old 12.2 software on their routers, so they can get new 15.0 now.

(Only for 7600, of course.  Let's see how 6500-new-numbers will look
like.  15.0R maybe, to make the confusion complete?)

gert
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS Release 15.0S for the Cisco 7600 and Cisco 10000 series routers

2010-08-04 Thread Mounir Mohamed
Yes very interested.

Thus 7200 will get out of the picture, because the SR train is used on the
7200 series with NPE-G2 in many small size service providers, and since
15.0s will be available for 7600 and 1 only, any small size SP should
move to ASR1002.



On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Antonio Soares amsoa...@netcabo.pt wrote:

 This seems interesting:



 Cisco IOS Release 15S initiates a consolidated support strategy to provide
 greater consistency in new feature release and rebuild schedules and to
 simplify the software selection process. The release numbering has changed
 from 12.2SR to 15S to support this strategy and simplified software
 selection process.



 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/15_0s/release/notes/15_0s_rn.html







 Regards,



 Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS/SP)
 amsoa...@netcabo.pt

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Re: [c-nsp] OpenSource Cisco Monitoring Tool

2010-08-04 Thread LM

I love NMIS :D

El 04/08/10 05:01, ar escribió:

Hi. Aside from Nagios, any other opensource monitoring tool you are using that 
greatly works for cisco especially 7600 series?

thanks




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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS Release 15.0S for the Cisco 7600 and Cisco 10000 series routers

2010-08-04 Thread Nick Hilliard

On 04/08/2010 13:35, Gert Doering wrote:

Seems too many customers have complained that they do not want this
old 12.2 software on their routers, so they can get new 15.0 now.


unscrambling the egg is hard.

Nick
/me goes shopping
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[c-nsp] Nexus1000v: Mgmt Port

2010-08-04 Thread Christina Klam
Hello,

I am setting up a pair of Nexus 1000v switches.   As per the Cisco
documentation, I have the management port in my system-uplink
port-group.  However, currently, this management port is in the same
production VLAN as most of our servers.  I would rather have the
management in an separate VLAN for security and reliability reasons.
Also, as I cannot assign a VLAN to both the system-uplink and the
data-uplink port-group, this means all of the server traffic will be
using the system-uplink port-group.  This does not sound logical.

My question is:
1.  Does the management port have to be in the same VLAN as the VM Host
server?
2.  If is does, what are the implications of putting the management port
on the data-uplink port-group?
3.  OR, if (1) is YES, then what do you think about putting the VM Hosts
(ESXI) on a separate VLAN than the virtual servers?

Thank you for your help,

-- Christina
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[c-nsp] Recommended 1Gb SFP for ~115km?

2010-08-04 Thread Abello, Vinny
Hello,

 

Any pointers on real world experience on this topic would greatly be
appreciated. What are people using successfully out there as far as third
party SFP's go to hit a distance of approximately 115km? This would be for a
Catalyst 6506. Cisco's solution was a much more costly EDFA solution, but I
see plenty of vendors that make SFP's for Gigabit Ethernet that range from
115km to 150km and more. I know these are not supported by Cisco and TAC
won't troubleshoot if they are in the switch. I'm willing to work around
that should I need TAC assistance on the switch. What works well for a
single wavelength solution at this distance without having to switch to
DWDM? This circuit will have duplex fibers.

 

Thanks!

 

-Vinny

 

 

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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS Release 15.0S for the Cisco 7600 and Cisco 10000 series routers

2010-08-04 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 02:34:06PM +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote:
 /me goes shopping

Any interesting IOS versions in your basket?

(Needs Java, of course)

gert

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[c-nsp] AIR-WLC4402-50-K9 config

2010-08-04 Thread Renelson Panosky
I am trying to console in to this new wireless controller and i have done
everything the manual said but after it passed all the self test it got
stuck rc=0.  Has anybody work with that before if so did you ran into the
same problem? How did you get passed it ?

Cryptographic library self-testpassed!
XML config selected
Validating XML configuration
Cisco is a trademark of Cisco Systems, Inc.
Software Copyright Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved.

Cisco AireOS Version 6.0.196.0
Initializing OS Services: ok
Initializing Serial Services: ok
Initializing Internal Interfaces: ok
Initializing Network Services: ok
Starting ARP Services: ok
Starting Trap Manager: ok
Starting Network Interface Management Services: ok
Starting System Services: ok
Starting FIPS Features: ok : Not enabled
Starting Fastpath Hardware Acceleration: ok
Starting Switching Services: ok
Starting QoS Services: ok
Starting Policy Manager: ok
Starting Data Transport Link Layer: ok
Starting Access Control List Services: ok
Starting System Interfaces: ok
Starting Client Troubleshooting Service: ok
Starting Management Frame Protection: ok
Starting Certificate Database: ok
Starting VPN Services: ok
Starting LWAPP: ok
Starting CAPWAP: ok
Starting LOCP: ok
Starting Security Services: ok
Starting Policy Manager: ok
Starting Authentication Engine: ok
Starting Mobility Management: ok
Starting Virtual AP Services: ok
Starting AireWave Director: ok
Starting Network Time Services: ok
Starting Cisco Discovery Protocol: ok
Starting Broadcast Services: ok
Starting Logging Services: ok
Starting DHCP Server: ok
Starting IDS Signature Manager: ok
Starting RFID Tag Tracking: ok
Starting Power Supply and Fan Status Monitoring Service: ok
Starting Mesh Services:  ok
Starting TSM: ok
Starting CIDS Services: ok
Starting Ethernet-over-IP: ok
Starting DTLS server:  enabled in CAPWAP
Starting FMC HS: ok
Starting WIPS: ok
Starting SSHPM LSC PROV LIST: ok
Starting RRC Services: ok
Starting Management Services:
   Web Server: ok
   CLI: ok
   Secure Web: Web Authentication Certificate not found (error). If you
cannot access management interface via HTTPS please reconfigure Virtual
Interface.

(Cisco Controller)


Welcome to the Cisco Wizard Configuration Tool
Use the '-' character to backup


Would you like to terminate autoinstall? [yes]:
AUTO-INSTALL: starting now...
rc = 0
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Re: [c-nsp] Anyone else seeing downloads not working

2010-08-04 Thread marty

Same experience here, with non-Java option in FF.  I get redirected
back to the auth/login page each time.  Clearing cisco.com cookies
solves it... until the next time.

- Marty

On 7/27/2010 7:34 AM, Aled Morris wrote:

I see this often (every couple of months) and have to clear my cookies for
cisco.com sites to get it to work again.

Firefox fwiw

Aled


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Re: [c-nsp] OpenSource Cisco Monitoring Tool

2010-08-04 Thread Walter Keen

We use opennms and love it's trap handling capabilities.


On 08/03/2010 09:55 PM, Jimmy Stewpot wrote:

Check out zenoss http://www.zenoss.com/

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Subject: [c-nsp] OpenSource Cisco Monitoring Tool

Hi. Aside from Nagios, any other opensource monitoring tool you are using that 
greatly works for cisco especially 7600 series?

thanks




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[c-nsp] Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Cisco ASA 5500 Series Adaptive Security Appliances

2010-08-04 Thread Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team
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Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Cisco ASA 5500
Series Adaptive Security Appliances

Advisory ID: cisco-sa-20100804-asa

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20100804-asa.shtml

Revision 1.0

For Public Release 2010 August 04 1600 UTC (GMT)

+-

Summary
===

Cisco ASA 5500 Series Adaptive Security Appliances are affected by
multiple vulnerabilities as follows:

  * Three SunRPC Inspection Denial of Service Vulnerabilities
  * Three Transport Layer Security (TLS) Denial of Service
Vulnerabilities
  * Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Inspection Denial of Service
Vulnerability
  * Crafted Internet Key Exchange (IKE) Message Denial of Service
Vulnerability

These vulnerabilities are not interdependent; a release that is
affected by one vulnerability is not necessarily affected by the
others.

There are workarounds for some of the vulnerabilities disclosed in
this advisory.

This advisory is posted at:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20100804-asa.shtml

Note:  The Cisco Firewall Services Module (FWSM) is affected by the
SunRPC DoS vulnerabilities. A separate Cisco Security Advisory has
been published to disclose the vulnerabilities that affect the FWSM.
This advisory is available at:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20100804-fwsm.shtml

Affected Products
=

Cisco ASA 5500 Series Adaptive Security Appliances are affected by
multiple vulnerabilities. Affected versions of Cisco ASA Software
will vary depending on the specific vulnerability.

Vulnerable Products
+--

For specific version information, refer to the Software Versions and
Fixes section of this advisory.

SunRPC Inspection Denial of Service Vulnerabilities
~~~

Three denial of service (DoS) vulnerabilities affect the SunRPC
inspection feature of Cisco ASA 5500 Series Adaptive Security
Appliances. A successful attack may result in a sustained DoS
condition.

Versions 7.2.x, 8.0.x, 8.1.x, and 8.2.x are affected. SunRPC
inspection is enabled by default.

To check if SunRPC inspection is enabled, issue the show
service-policy | include sunrpc command and confirm that output, such
as what is displayed in the following example, is returned.

ciscoasa# show service-policy | include sunrpc
  Inspect: sunrpc, packet 0, drop 0, reset-drop 0

The following configuration commands are used to enable SunRPC
inspection in the Cisco ASA.

class-map inspection_default
 match default-inspection-traffic
!
policy-map global_policy
 class inspection_default
  ...
  inspect sunrpc 
  ...
!
service-policy global_policy global

Transport Layer Security (TLS) Denial of Service Vulnerabilities


Three DoS vulnerabilities exist in the Cisco ASA security appliances
that can be triggered by a series of crafted TLS packets. A
successful attack may result in a sustained DoS condition. Versions
7.2.x, 8.0.x, 8.1.x, 8.2.x, and 8.3.x are affected by one or more of
these vulnerabilities. A Cisco ASA device configured for any of the
following features is affected:

  * Secure Socket Layer Virtual Private Network (SSL VPN)
  * When the affected device is configured to accept Cisco Adaptive
Security Device Manager (ASDM) connections
  * TLS Proxy for Encrypted Voice Inspection
  * Cut-Through Proxy for Network Access when using HTTPS

SSL VPN (or WebVPN) is enabled with the enable interface name
command in webvpn configuration mode. SSL VPN is disabled by default.
The following configuration snippet provides an example of a SSL VPN
configuration.

webvpn
 enable outside
...

ASDM access is affected by three of these vulnerabilities. To use
ASDM, the HTTPS server must be enabled to allow HTTPS connections to
the Cisco ASA. The server can be enabled using the http server enable
[port] command. The default port is 443. To specify hosts that can
access the HTTP server internal to the security appliance, use the 
http command in global configuration mode.

The TLS Proxy for Encrypted Voice Inspection feature is affected by
these vulnerabilities. This feature was introduced in Cisco ASA
version 8.0(2) and is disabled by default.

To determine if the TLS Proxy for Encrypted Voice Inspection feature
is enabled on the device, use the show tls-proxy command, as shown in
the following example:

ciscoasa# show tls-proxy
Maximum number of sessions: 1200

TLS-Proxy 'sip_proxy': ref_cnt 1, seq# 3
Server proxy:
Trust-point: local_ccm
Client proxy:
Local dynamic certificate issuer: LOCAL-CA-SERVER
Local dynamic certificate key-pair: phone_common
Cipher suite:  aes128-sha1 aes256-sha1
Run-time proxies:
Proxy 0xcbae1538: Class-map: sip_ssl, Inspect: sip

[c-nsp] Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Cisco Firewall Services Module

2010-08-04 Thread Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team
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Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Cisco Firewall
Services Module

Advisory ID: cisco-sa-20100804-fwsm

Revision 1.0

For Public Release 2010 August 04 1600 UTC (GMT)

+-

Summary
===

Multiple vulnerabilities exist in the Cisco Firewall Services Module
(FWSM) for the Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series Switches and Cisco 7600
Series Routers that may cause the Cisco FWSM to reload after
processing crafted SunRPC or certain TCP packets. Repeated
exploitation could result in a sustained DoS condition.

Cisco has released free software updates that address these
vulnerabilities. Workarounds are available for the vulnerabilities
disclosed in this advisory.

Note:  These vulnerabilities are independent of each other. A device
may be affected by one vulnerability and not affected by another.

This advisory is posted at:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20100804-fwsm.shtml

Note:  The Cisco ASA 5500 Series Adaptive Security Appliances are
affected by the SunRPC inspection vulnerabilities described in this
advisory. A separate Cisco Security Advisory has been published to
disclose this and other vulnerabilities that affect the Cisco ASA
5500 Series Adaptive Security Appliances. The advisory is available
at:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20100804-asa.shtml

Affected Products
=

Vulnerable Products
+--

The Cisco Firewall Services Module (FWSM) for the Cisco Catalyst 6500
Series Switches and Cisco 7600 Series Routers is affected by multiple
vulnerabilities. Affected versions of Cisco FWSM Software vary
depending on the specific vulnerability.

SunRPC Inspection Denial of Service Vulnerabilities
~~~

Cisco FWSM Software version 3.x and 4.x are affected by these
vulnerabilities only if SunRPC inspection is enabled. SunRPC
inspection is enabled by default.

To check if SunRPC inspection is enabled, use the show service-policy
| include sunrpc command and confirm that the command returns output,
as shown in the following example:

fwsm#show service-policy | include sunrpc
  Inspect: sunrpc , packet 0, drop 0, reset-drop 0

Alternatively, a device that has SunRPC inspection enabled has a
configuration similar to the following:

class-map inspection_default
 match default-inspection-traffic
!
policy-map global_policy
 class inspection_default
  ...
  inspect sunrpc
  ...
!
service-policy global_policy global

Note:  The Cisco ASA 5500 Series Adaptive Security Appliances are
affected by the SunRPC inspection vulnerabilities described in this
advisory. A separate Cisco Security Advisory has been published to
disclose this and other vulnerabilities that affect the Cisco ASA
5500 Series Adaptive Security Appliances. The advisory is available
at:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20100804-asa.shtml

TCP Denial of Service Vulnerability
~~~

Cisco FWSM Software version 3.x and 4.x are affected by this
vulnerability when configured in multi-mode (with virtual firewalls)
and with any of the following features:

  * ASDM Administrative Access
  * Telnet
  * SSH

To verify if the FWSM is running in multiple mode, use the show mode
command, as shown in the following example:

FWSM(config)#show mode
Security context mode: multiple
The flash mode is the SAME as the running mode.

The following commands are used to enable the HTTPS server and allow
only hosts on the inside interface with an address in the 192.168.1.0
/24 network to create ASDM, SSH or Telnet connections:

asa(config)# http server enable
asa(config)# http 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 inside
asa(config)# telnet 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 inside
asa(config)# ssh 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 inside

Determining Software Versions
~

To determine the version of Cisco FWSM Software that is running,
issue the show module command from Cisco IOS Software or Cisco
Catalyst Operating System Software to identify what modules and sub
modules are installed on the system.

The following example shows a system with a Cisco FWSM (WS-SVC-FWM-1)
installed in slot 2:

switchshow module
Mod Ports Card Type  Model  Serial 
No.
--- - -- -- 
---
  1   16  SFM-capable 16 port 1000mb GBICWS-X6516-GBIC  
SAL06334NS9
  26  Firewall ModuleWS-SVC-FWM-1   
SAD10360485
  38  Intrusion Detection System WS-SVC-IDSM-2  
SAD0932089Z
  44  SLB Application Processor Complex  WS-X6066-SLB-APC   
SAD093004BD
  52  Supervisor Engine 720 (Active) WS-SUP720-3B   
SAL0934888E

Mod MAC addresses

Re: [c-nsp] Recommended 1Gb SFP for ~115km?

2010-08-04 Thread Nick Hilliard

On 04/08/2010 15:30, Abello, Vinny wrote:

Any pointers on real world experience on this topic would greatly be
appreciated. What are people using successfully out there as far as third
party SFP's go to hit a distance of approximately 115km? This would be for a
Catalyst 6506. Cisco's solution was a much more costly EDFA solution, but I
see plenty of vendors that make SFP's for Gigabit Ethernet that range from
115km to 150km and more. I know these are not supported by Cisco and TAC
won't troubleshoot if they are in the switch. I'm willing to work around
that should I need TAC assistance on the switch. What works well for a
single wavelength solution at this distance without having to switch to
DWDM? This circuit will have duplex fibers.


This isn't really a Cisco question, but 115km takes a little bit of care.

First, you need an accurate attenuation measurement for both strands of the 
link - you can assume C band (1550).  Once you have this measurement, you 
will then be in a position to buy a transceiver which will fit your 
requirements. You can estimate the attenuation on the link, but this can 
cause problems if the estimation is wrong (which can happen if the fibre is 
duff quality).  You should also expect to have a chromatic dispersion 
penalty; this will remove a couple of dB from your link budget.


Once you've taken into account these things + any patching loss and all 
that, you'll end up with a link budget figure.  Add on a couple of dB to 
this for leg-room and this will be your operating optical attenuation 
budget.  This budget will enable you to pin down what sort of SFPs might 
actually work on your link.


Also make sure that the electrical output from the SFP port on the Cisco 
box is compatible with the electrical power requirements of the SFP.


In all likelihood, you're going to end up purchasing DWDM SFPs.  Get a good 
quality third party transceiver (Finisar, Opnext, etc) - they are worth the 
expense.


Nick

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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco3750 %AAA-3-BADMETHOD

2010-08-04 Thread LM
Never saw this before, we saw here error cosmetic AAA messages over 
3750G and 12.2.44SE1 and SE2

Not this one.

El 04/08/10 14:07, Chris Lane escribió:

All,

Running a C3750 48TS on 12.2(35)SE2 . Used very simple AAA method for
authentication with radius, 4 lines of AAA.
Happened to log into router today only to notice that i can't configure
device, my credentials don't match and i have this in the log

%AAA-3-BADMETHOD

This entry is on AUG 2nd, and the last NVRAM change was done on July29th -
and it was simple vlan addition.
The most alarming problem was when i did a SHOW RUN, there were almost 20
AAA commands that myself or the 29th UPDATED CONFIG did not add.
On Aug 2nd the log does not show any user access just the above with a bunch
of memory dumps, as it appears. Unfortunately i did not grab the LOG itself.
ugg.

Issue, i figured by rebooting the last NVRAM change on JULY 29th i would
regain my original config from the 29th and remove these randomly issued
commands. This is a remote router fyi:
router did not respond well to reload and did not come back.  Oh and on
reboot i did NOT save changes to Config preserving July 29th NVRAM change.

Has anyone Seen such wierd oddity?

I have to repeat, the logs do not indicate user Access to the box, which the
box does log, on Aug 2nd, just the above error with 2 full log lines full of
what appears to be a memory dump of some sort.

And lastly Cisco's website shows this for the Above error:

AAA-3-BADMETHOD : Cannot process [chars] method [int]

ExplanationA method list function has encountered a method list that was
unknown or that could not be processed.

Recommended ActionCopy the error message exactly as it appears on the
console or in the system log, contact your Cisco technical support
representative, and provide the representative with the gathered
information.



Wow, thats helpful  ;-)

Much regards

Chris
   

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Re: [c-nsp] Anyone else seeing downloads not working

2010-08-04 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:51:54 pm 
ma...@martyadkins.com wrote:

 Same experience here, with non-Java option in FF.  I get
 redirected back to the auth/login page each time. 
 Clearing cisco.com cookies solves it... until the next
 time.

Here too, but only on Firefox.

Not seeing the problem with Safari (don't have IE to test).

Mark.


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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS Release 15.0S for the Cisco 7600 and Cisco 10000 series routers

2010-08-04 Thread Mack McBride
It would be nice if the feature navigator worked for 15.0(1)S.
Manually comparing release notes is a pain :(

LR Mack McBride
Network Architect
Viawest, Inc

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Gert Doering
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 6:36 AM
To: Antonio Soares
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS Release 15.0S for the Cisco 7600 and Cisco 1 
series routers

Hi,

On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 12:54:47PM +0100, Antonio Soares wrote:
 Cisco IOS Release 15S initiates a consolidated support strategy to 
 provide greater consistency in new feature release and rebuild 
 schedules and to simplify the software selection process. The release 
 numbering has changed from 12.2SR to 15S to support this strategy and 
 simplified software selection process.

Yes, especially given the observation that 15.0S seems to be just a renamed 
12.2SR, and does not have the 15.0M feature set...

Seems too many customers have complained that they do not want this old 12.2 
software on their routers, so they can get new 15.0 now.

(Only for 7600, of course.  Let's see how 6500-new-numbers will look like.  
15.0R maybe, to make the confusion complete?)

gert
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco3750 %AAA-3-BADMETHOD

2010-08-04 Thread Heath Jones
Hi Chris

The first thing that popped into my mind was partial nvram failure.
If my understanding of that badmethod error description is correct, then its
talking about the methods you can configure for aaa - radius, local, tacacs
etc..
If you look where that is stored in the config, it is right around the
logins. Also, there might be a side effect of this error that a user's local
credentials won't work as there is no usable aaa policy (ie. no default
behaviour).

It's only one theory though :)


Cheers
Heath


On 4 August 2010 13:07, Chris Lane clane1...@gmail.com wrote:

 All,

 Running a C3750 48TS on 12.2(35)SE2 . Used very simple AAA method for
 authentication with radius, 4 lines of AAA.
 Happened to log into router today only to notice that i can't configure
 device, my credentials don't match and i have this in the log

 %AAA-3-BADMETHOD

 This entry is on AUG 2nd, and the last NVRAM change was done on July29th -
 and it was simple vlan addition.
 The most alarming problem was when i did a SHOW RUN, there were almost 20
 AAA commands that myself or the 29th UPDATED CONFIG did not add.
 On Aug 2nd the log does not show any user access just the above with a
 bunch
 of memory dumps, as it appears. Unfortunately i did not grab the LOG
 itself.
 ugg.

 Issue, i figured by rebooting the last NVRAM change on JULY 29th i would
 regain my original config from the 29th and remove these randomly issued
 commands. This is a remote router fyi:
 router did not respond well to reload and did not come back.  Oh and on
 reboot i did NOT save changes to Config preserving July 29th NVRAM change.

 Has anyone Seen such wierd oddity?

 I have to repeat, the logs do not indicate user Access to the box, which
 the
 box does log, on Aug 2nd, just the above error with 2 full log lines full
 of
 what appears to be a memory dump of some sort.

 And lastly Cisco's website shows this for the Above error:

 AAA-3-BADMETHOD : Cannot process [chars] method [int]

 ExplanationA method list function has encountered a method list that
 was
 unknown or that could not be processed.

 Recommended ActionCopy the error message exactly as it appears on the
 console or in the system log, contact your Cisco technical support
 representative, and provide the representative with the gathered
 information.



 Wow, thats helpful  ;-)

 Much regards

 Chris
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco3750 %AAA-3-BADMETHOD

2010-08-04 Thread Heath Jones
Chris - on second thought, when you say the 'memory dump' was in the log,
are you talking about your console session or actual log file / syslog? I
was assuming you might have seen it in the nvram config if you did a show
conf.
If its the actual syslog then I think you should consider a potential dos /
compromise / other crazy bug. Any other odd behaviour on the network lately?


On 4 August 2010 13:07, Chris Lane clane1...@gmail.com wrote:

 All,

 Running a C3750 48TS on 12.2(35)SE2 . Used very simple AAA method for
 authentication with radius, 4 lines of AAA.
 Happened to log into router today only to notice that i can't configure
 device, my credentials don't match and i have this in the log

 %AAA-3-BADMETHOD

 This entry is on AUG 2nd, and the last NVRAM change was done on July29th -
 and it was simple vlan addition.
 The most alarming problem was when i did a SHOW RUN, there were almost 20
 AAA commands that myself or the 29th UPDATED CONFIG did not add.
 On Aug 2nd the log does not show any user access just the above with a
 bunch
 of memory dumps, as it appears. Unfortunately i did not grab the LOG
 itself.
 ugg.

 Issue, i figured by rebooting the last NVRAM change on JULY 29th i would
 regain my original config from the 29th and remove these randomly issued
 commands. This is a remote router fyi:
 router did not respond well to reload and did not come back.  Oh and on
 reboot i did NOT save changes to Config preserving July 29th NVRAM change.

 Has anyone Seen such wierd oddity?

 I have to repeat, the logs do not indicate user Access to the box, which
 the
 box does log, on Aug 2nd, just the above error with 2 full log lines full
 of
 what appears to be a memory dump of some sort.

 And lastly Cisco's website shows this for the Above error:

 AAA-3-BADMETHOD : Cannot process [chars] method [int]

 ExplanationA method list function has encountered a method list that
 was
 unknown or that could not be processed.

 Recommended ActionCopy the error message exactly as it appears on the
 console or in the system log, contact your Cisco technical support
 representative, and provide the representative with the gathered
 information.



 Wow, thats helpful  ;-)

 Much regards

 Chris
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Re: [c-nsp] Match-in-VRF

2010-08-04 Thread Derick Winkworth
This limits the scope of a NAT rule/translation to the VRF specified in the NAT 
rule.  The most common issue is that outside NATs were always global, even if 
you specified a VRF.  You could not re-use the same translated address (pool) 
for another VRF / different real address...

Essentially this command ensures you have real per-VRF inside and outside 
translations which means you can re-use real and NAT'd addresses on a per VRF 
basis without any issues.

This is now the default/native behavior of IOS XE.  There is no match-in-vrf on 
that platform because it is not needed.





From: Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) oboeh...@cisco.com
To: David Warner davidwarner1...@yahoo.com.au; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 3:25:32 AM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Match-in-VRF


 Was hoping someone could advise with regards to what the NAT keywords
 match-in-vrf achieves? We typically use this in production. However,
Ive
 just
 been labbing NAT config using VRF lite and it doesnt appear to change
 behaviour
 and Cisco literature is unclear. With or without it, translations
occur in
 the
 relevant VRF.

not an expert, but do you use overlapping pools between vrfs? If you are
not, you don't need match-in-vrf.. take a look at
http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Category:NAT

    oli

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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS Release 15.0S for the Cisco 7600 and Cisco 10000 series routers

2010-08-04 Thread LM
This is disgusting, specially if your 7200 is at 15% of capacity working 
perfectly.


El 04/08/10 14:40, Mounir Mohamed escribió:

Yes very interested.

Thus 7200 will get out of the picture, because the SR train is used on the
7200 series with NPE-G2 in many small size service providers, and since
15.0s will be available for 7600 and 1 only, any small size SP should
move to ASR1002.



On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Antonio Soaresamsoa...@netcabo.pt  wrote:

   

This seems interesting:



Cisco IOS Release 15S initiates a consolidated support strategy to provide
greater consistency in new feature release and rebuild schedules and to
simplify the software selection process. The release numbering has changed
from 12.2SR to 15S to support this strategy and simplified software
selection process.



http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/15_0s/release/notes/15_0s_rn.html







Regards,



Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt

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[c-nsp] Forwarding bandwidth vs. Switching bandwidth

2010-08-04 Thread Brian Landers
Need some help deciphering Cisco marketing-speak.   In the data sheet
for the Catalyst 2960S, they list:

  Forwarding Bandwidth
  88 Gbps
  20 Gbps for FlexStack Stacking

  Switching Bandwidth
  176 Gbps

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps6406/product_data_sheet0900aecd80322c0c.html

Can anyone explain the difference?  Google only returns links to the
data sheet itself or a couple of forum threads asking the same
question.

Thanks,
Brian


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Re: [c-nsp] Forwarding bandwidth vs. Switching bandwidth

2010-08-04 Thread Christopher Gatlin
Classic marketeer speak.

88 * 2 = 176

They count each frame as in comes in and again as it goes out.


Chris


On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Brian Landers br...@bluecoat93.org wrote:

 Need some help deciphering Cisco marketing-speak.   In the data sheet
 for the Catalyst 2960S, they list:

  Forwarding Bandwidth
  88 Gbps
  20 Gbps for FlexStack Stacking

  Switching Bandwidth
  176 Gbps


 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps6406/product_data_sheet0900aecd80322c0c.html

 Can anyone explain the difference?  Google only returns links to the
 data sheet itself or a couple of forum threads asking the same
 question.

 Thanks,
 Brian


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Re: [c-nsp] Forwarding bandwidth vs. Switching bandwidth

2010-08-04 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 04/08/2010 19:11, Brian Landers wrote:
 Need some help deciphering Cisco marketing-speak.   In the data sheet
 for the Catalyst 2960S, they list:
 
   Forwarding Bandwidth
   88 Gbps
   20 Gbps for FlexStack Stacking
 
   Switching Bandwidth
   176 Gbps

88Gbps forwarding bandwidth full duplex == 176Gbps bandwidth half duplex.
I.e. it will switch in both directions at the same time.  I always buy
switches which operate in both directions at the same time.  Don't you?

The 20Gbps flexstack bandwidth refers to the dual 10G stacking ports.  If
you google for flexstack 2960, the first entry is a white paper on how
2960S FlexStack works.  It notes mid-way down: The FlexStack links are
full duplex 10Gbps Ethernet links.

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps6406/white_paper_c11-578928.html

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[c-nsp] 10GBase-LX4 and OM2 fibre -- MCP?

2010-08-04 Thread Cisco NSP
Hi all,

I'm not very fibre-savvy, so if anybody could help me, I'd very much
appreciate it!

I have two Cisco 6500s about 250 meters apart in two separate buildings.
Between those two buildings I have OM2 grade fibre. and both Cisco have an
10GBase-LX4 X2 interface.

When I measure the fibre end-to-end it has about 1,9dB attenuation in the
1300nm spectrum but when I connect the fibre to the interface, I don't get
link-up.
A little troubleshooting pointed me to mode conditioning patches (a piece of
SM and MM welded together) but I find it very hard to believe that this
patch will solve my problem.


Before I invest 800$ for 2 patch-fibers, Is this the way I should go, or am
I overlooking anything?


Thanks in advance,
Dirk-Jan van Helmond
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Re: [c-nsp] 10GBase-LX4 and OM2 fibre -- MCP?

2010-08-04 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson

On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Cisco NSP wrote:


A little troubleshooting pointed me to mode conditioning patches (a piece of
SM and MM welded together) but I find it very hard to believe that this
patch will solve my problem.


Is this the page you're referring to?

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/modules/ps5455/product_bulletin_c25-530836.html

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Re: [c-nsp] 10GBase-LX4 and OM2 fibre -- MCP?

2010-08-04 Thread Justin M. Streiner

On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Cisco NSP wrote:


Hi all,

I'm not very fibre-savvy, so if anybody could help me, I'd very much
appreciate it!

I have two Cisco 6500s about 250 meters apart in two separate buildings.
Between those two buildings I have OM2 grade fibre. and both Cisco have an
10GBase-LX4 X2 interface.


From what I recall, the recommended maximum distance on 10GBASE-LX4 on 

OM3 fiber is 300 meters.


When I measure the fibre end-to-end it has about 1,9dB attenuation in the
1300nm spectrum but when I connect the fibre to the interface, I don't get
link-up.


That is well within the published link budget for the LX4 spec.  Are you 
sure that 1. both X2 modules are functional and 2. all of your jumpers 
and connectors are in good shape (clean end faces, no kinks/micro-bends), 
etc?



A little troubleshooting pointed me to mode conditioning patches (a piece of
SM and MM welded together) but I find it very hard to believe that this
patch will solve my problem.


A mode-conditioning patch can extend the distance and reduce the dispersion
penalty you pay on multimode fiber by admitting only one mode of light 
into the fiber from the transmit side of the optics at each end.


Do you have any singlemode fiber between the buildings, or do you just 
have OM2 grade multimode?


jms




Before I invest 800$ for 2 patch-fibers, Is this the way I should go, or am
I overlooking anything?


Thanks in advance,
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Re: [c-nsp] Forwarding bandwidth vs. Switching bandwidth

2010-08-04 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
It's really quite simple:

48x1G downlinks + 2x10G uplinks + 2x10G stacking = 88G non-blocking
88G x marketing = 176G

-A

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Re: [c-nsp] Forwarding bandwidth vs. Switching bandwidth

2010-08-04 Thread Walter Keen

Yes, like a 2GB circuit, in reality is 1Gb bidirectional.

That funny marketing math.
if (marketing=true) then (throughput=unidirectional-rate*2)


On 08/04/2010 01:39 PM, Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists wrote:

It's really quite simple:

48x1G downlinks + 2x10G uplinks + 2x10G stacking = 88G non-blocking
88G x marketing = 176G

-A

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Re: [c-nsp] 10GBase-LX4 and OM2 fibre -- MCP?

2010-08-04 Thread Cisco NSP
Thanks for all the responses.

Unfortunately there is no single-mode fiber between the buildings. I'm much
more familiar with 10GBase-SR and  10GBase-LR and I would have liked to use
it instead. But we have to work with the current cabling.

I've checked the orientation of the TX/RX both ways and both didn't work. I
can try to clean the faces again, but the 1.9dB attenuation seems a good
indication  to me that the fibre itself is ok.


Mack, I'm not aware that the X2-LX4 interface was not supported on the 6500.
Do you have an url confirming this? FWIW, the optic is placed in a
VS-S720-10G-3C supervisor (port Te5/4).

Regards,
Dirk-Jan van Helmond





On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Justin M. Streiner
strei...@cluebyfour.orgwrote:

 On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Cisco NSP wrote:

  Hi all,

 I'm not very fibre-savvy, so if anybody could help me, I'd very much
 appreciate it!

 I have two Cisco 6500s about 250 meters apart in two separate buildings.
 Between those two buildings I have OM2 grade fibre. and both Cisco have an
 10GBase-LX4 X2 interface.


  From what I recall, the recommended maximum distance on 10GBASE-LX4 on

 OM3 fiber is 300 meters.


  When I measure the fibre end-to-end it has about 1,9dB attenuation in the
 1300nm spectrum but when I connect the fibre to the interface, I don't get
 link-up.


 That is well within the published link budget for the LX4 spec.  Are you
 sure that 1. both X2 modules are functional and 2. all of your jumpers and
 connectors are in good shape (clean end faces, no kinks/micro-bends), etc?


  A little troubleshooting pointed me to mode conditioning patches (a piece
 of
 SM and MM welded together) but I find it very hard to believe that this
 patch will solve my problem.


 A mode-conditioning patch can extend the distance and reduce the dispersion
 penalty you pay on multimode fiber by admitting only one mode of light into
 the fiber from the transmit side of the optics at each end.

 Do you have any singlemode fiber between the buildings, or do you just have
 OM2 grade multimode?

 jms



 Before I invest 800$ for 2 patch-fibers, Is this the way I should go, or
 am
 I overlooking anything?


 Thanks in advance,
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Re: [c-nsp] 10GBase-LX4 and OM2 fibre -- MCP?

2010-08-04 Thread Mack McBride
LX4 is not supported on the 6500s.

Show int trans supported-list
...
X2 LX4   NONE
...

Mack McBride
Network Architect
Viawest, Inc.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 2:21 PM
To: cisco-nsp
Subject: [c-nsp] 10GBase-LX4 and OM2 fibre -- MCP?

Hi all,

I'm not very fibre-savvy, so if anybody could help me, I'd very much
appreciate it!

I have two Cisco 6500s about 250 meters apart in two separate buildings.
Between those two buildings I have OM2 grade fibre. and both Cisco have an
10GBase-LX4 X2 interface.

When I measure the fibre end-to-end it has about 1,9dB attenuation in the
1300nm spectrum but when I connect the fibre to the interface, I don't get
link-up.
A little troubleshooting pointed me to mode conditioning patches (a piece of
SM and MM welded together) but I find it very hard to believe that this
patch will solve my problem.


Before I invest 800$ for 2 patch-fibers, Is this the way I should go, or am
I overlooking anything?


Thanks in advance,
Dirk-Jan van Helmond
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Re: [c-nsp] 10GBase-LX4 and OM2 fibre -- MCP?

2010-08-04 Thread Walter Keen

Based on the following, you might have too much light.

From : 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/modules/ps5455/product_bulletin_c25-530836.html


Notes for LX4:

1. In some cases, customers might experience that a link would be 
operating properly over OM2 fiber type without MCP.


2. Some customers may be tempted to connect 10GBASE-LX4 devices over MMF 
jumper cables without MCP cables. This includes the case of links over 
OM3 cable for which the MCP should not be used. There is a risk to 
overload and saturate the adjacent receiver causing high bit error rate, 
link flaps and eventually irreversible damage. In such cases, a 5-dB 
attenuator for 1300nm should be used and plugged at the transmitter of 
the optical module on each side of the link.


3. Another alternative for short reaches within the same location is to 
use a single-mode patch cable. There will be no saturation over 
single-mode fiber. Please note the 10GBASE-LX4 devices can reach up to 
10km over single-mode fiber as per compliance to IEEE.




On 08/04/2010 02:11 PM, Cisco NSP wrote:

Thanks for all the responses.

Unfortunately there is no single-mode fiber between the buildings. I'm much
more familiar with 10GBase-SR and  10GBase-LR and I would have liked to use
it instead. But we have to work with the current cabling.

I've checked the orientation of the TX/RX both ways and both didn't work. I
can try to clean the faces again, but the 1.9dB attenuation seems a good
indication  to me that the fibre itself is ok.


Mack, I'm not aware that the X2-LX4 interface was not supported on the 6500.
Do you have an url confirming this? FWIW, the optic is placed in a
VS-S720-10G-3C supervisor (port Te5/4).

Regards,
Dirk-Jan van Helmond





On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Justin M. Streiner
strei...@cluebyfour.orgwrote:

   

On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Cisco NSP wrote:

  Hi all,
 

I'm not very fibre-savvy, so if anybody could help me, I'd very much
appreciate it!

I have two Cisco 6500s about 250 meters apart in two separate buildings.
Between those two buildings I have OM2 grade fibre. and both Cisco have an
10GBase-LX4 X2 interface.

   

   From what I recall, the recommended maximum distance on 10GBASE-LX4 on
 
   

OM3 fiber is 300 meters.


  When I measure the fibre end-to-end it has about 1,9dB attenuation in the
 

1300nm spectrum but when I connect the fibre to the interface, I don't get
link-up.

   

That is well within the published link budget for the LX4 spec.  Are you
sure that 1. both X2 modules are functional and 2. all of your jumpers and
connectors are in good shape (clean end faces, no kinks/micro-bends), etc?


  A little troubleshooting pointed me to mode conditioning patches (a piece
 

of
SM and MM welded together) but I find it very hard to believe that this
patch will solve my problem.

   

A mode-conditioning patch can extend the distance and reduce the dispersion
penalty you pay on multimode fiber by admitting only one mode of light into
the fiber from the transmit side of the optics at each end.

Do you have any singlemode fiber between the buildings, or do you just have
OM2 grade multimode?

jms


 

Before I invest 800$ for 2 patch-fibers, Is this the way I should go, or
am
I overlooking anything?


Thanks in advance,
Dirk-Jan van Helmond
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Re: [c-nsp] 10GBase-LX4 and OM2 fibre -- MCP?

2010-08-04 Thread Justin M. Streiner

On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Cisco NSP wrote:


Thanks for all the responses.

Unfortunately there is no single-mode fiber between the buildings. I'm much
more familiar with 10GBase-SR and  10GBase-LR and I would have liked to use
it instead. But we have to work with the current cabling.

I've checked the orientation of the TX/RX both ways and both didn't work. I
can try to clean the faces again, but the 1.9dB attenuation seems a good
indication  to me that the fibre itself is ok.


Yes, it does sound like the plant fiber itself is ok, but a test with a 
power meter only tells you about attenuation.  On long multimode runs, 
dispersion can be a big issue.  Also, did you run that power meter test 
through all of the same jumpers that you're trying to use in the actual

link, to rule out the possibility of a bad jumper?

Are you sure the X2s themselves are OK, and don't have dirty connectors?


Mack, I'm not aware that the X2-LX4 interface was not supported on the 6500.
Do you have an url confirming this? FWIW, the optic is placed in a
VS-S720-10G-3C supervisor (port Te5/4).


I found the following link, but it's only for XENPAKs, not X2s.  I could 
not find an X2-LX4 end of sale notice on Cisco's website.


http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/modules/ps5455/eol_c51_599855.html

Also, regarding mode-conditioning patch cords, I've seen them for a lot 
less than $800 USD (assuming the price you originally mentioned was in 
USD).


jms


On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Justin M. Streiner
strei...@cluebyfour.orgwrote:


On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Cisco NSP wrote:

 Hi all,


I'm not very fibre-savvy, so if anybody could help me, I'd very much
appreciate it!

I have two Cisco 6500s about 250 meters apart in two separate buildings.
Between those two buildings I have OM2 grade fibre. and both Cisco have an
10GBase-LX4 X2 interface.



 From what I recall, the recommended maximum distance on 10GBASE-LX4 on



OM3 fiber is 300 meters.


 When I measure the fibre end-to-end it has about 1,9dB attenuation in the

1300nm spectrum but when I connect the fibre to the interface, I don't get
link-up.



That is well within the published link budget for the LX4 spec.  Are you
sure that 1. both X2 modules are functional and 2. all of your jumpers and
connectors are in good shape (clean end faces, no kinks/micro-bends), etc?


 A little troubleshooting pointed me to mode conditioning patches (a piece

of
SM and MM welded together) but I find it very hard to believe that this
patch will solve my problem.



A mode-conditioning patch can extend the distance and reduce the dispersion
penalty you pay on multimode fiber by admitting only one mode of light into
the fiber from the transmit side of the optics at each end.

Do you have any singlemode fiber between the buildings, or do you just have
OM2 grade multimode?

jms




Before I invest 800$ for 2 patch-fibers, Is this the way I should go, or
am
I overlooking anything?


Thanks in advance,
Dirk-Jan van Helmond
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Re: [c-nsp] 10GBase-LX4 and OM2 fibre -- MCP?

2010-08-04 Thread Justin M. Streiner

On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Mack McBride wrote:


LX4 is not supported on the 6500s.

Show int trans supported-list
...
X2 LX4   NONE


I have several 6509s running some flavor of 12.2(33)SXH, with lots of 
XENPAK/X2 SR, LX4, LR, and ER optics in production with no problems.


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[c-nsp] 3560G-48 - Getting close to port capacity

2010-08-04 Thread John Elliot

Hi,

 
We have 3560G-48's running at remote DataCentres(Connecting to 7200's via 
PortChan) - We interconnect to clients in these remote DC's via eth. At one DC, 
the 3560 is getting close to running out of ports(~8 remaining) - Simplest 
solution is for us to purchase another 3560G, run a portchan trunk to the 1st 
3560G, and then when new clients connect we would need to add vlans to both 
switches...not ideal, but the only other option would be to upgrade to 3750's, 
and stack them?(3750's are nearly double the price though!).

 
Are there any other alternatives that we should be looking at?(Given a limited 
budget)

 

Note - the 3560's are only performing L2 - Our 7200's are doing L3/BGP/MPLS/LNS 
duties, and we exceed the vlan limitation on 2960's.

 

We also considered potentially migrating to a collapsed core/dist layer(Using 
4500? No idea on price, and then we run into redundancy probs?), with 3560's 
hanging of this switch as access layer.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
  
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Re: [c-nsp] 10GBase-LX4 and OM2 fibre -- MCP?

2010-08-04 Thread Mack McBride
The literature for the 6708 blade lists the X2-10GB-LX4 as an option for the 
6500.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/solutions/collateral/ns340/ns517/ns224/ns668/net_business_benefit0900aecd80534918.html

The release notes also list it as supported.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12.2SX/release/notes/hardware.html#wp3051725

Unfortunately the IOS lists it as unsupported (SXH5 code).
Different code may list it differently.

You may be able to get it working by using 'service unsupported-transceiver' 
command.
I have not tried that.

Your receive power is fine on the link indicating the fiber is fine.
The modal bandwidth may not be sufficient for the distance or dispersion may be 
excessive for 10G as well.
You will need to do additional testing to determine that.

But my suspicion is less than full support for the LX4 transceiver in the code 
train.

The LRM may provide the support you need but is not specifically listed in the 
supported list.
I suspect it may have the same issue.
I have not tried those modules.

You may also want to investigate FN62840. Some models don't work right.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/ts/fn/misc/FN62840.html

I am not sure if the documentation is inaccurate but our customers have run 
into this problem and the
solution was switching to LR type modules.

Your distance is too long for regular SR modules.

Mack


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Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 3:12 PM
To: cisco-nsp
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 10GBase-LX4 and OM2 fibre -- MCP?

Thanks for all the responses.

Unfortunately there is no single-mode fiber between the buildings. I'm much
more familiar with 10GBase-SR and  10GBase-LR and I would have liked to use
it instead. But we have to work with the current cabling.

I've checked the orientation of the TX/RX both ways and both didn't work. I
can try to clean the faces again, but the 1.9dB attenuation seems a good
indication  to me that the fibre itself is ok.


Mack, I'm not aware that the X2-LX4 interface was not supported on the 6500.
Do you have an url confirming this? FWIW, the optic is placed in a
VS-S720-10G-3C supervisor (port Te5/4).

Regards,
Dirk-Jan van Helmond





On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Justin M. Streiner
strei...@cluebyfour.orgwrote:

 On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Cisco NSP wrote:

  Hi all,

 I'm not very fibre-savvy, so if anybody could help me, I'd very much
 appreciate it!

 I have two Cisco 6500s about 250 meters apart in two separate buildings.
 Between those two buildings I have OM2 grade fibre. and both Cisco have an
 10GBase-LX4 X2 interface.


  From what I recall, the recommended maximum distance on 10GBASE-LX4 on

 OM3 fiber is 300 meters.


  When I measure the fibre end-to-end it has about 1,9dB attenuation in the
 1300nm spectrum but when I connect the fibre to the interface, I don't get
 link-up.


 That is well within the published link budget for the LX4 spec.  Are you
 sure that 1. both X2 modules are functional and 2. all of your jumpers and
 connectors are in good shape (clean end faces, no kinks/micro-bends), etc?


  A little troubleshooting pointed me to mode conditioning patches (a piece
 of
 SM and MM welded together) but I find it very hard to believe that this
 patch will solve my problem.


 A mode-conditioning patch can extend the distance and reduce the dispersion
 penalty you pay on multimode fiber by admitting only one mode of light into
 the fiber from the transmit side of the optics at each end.

 Do you have any singlemode fiber between the buildings, or do you just have
 OM2 grade multimode?

 jms



 Before I invest 800$ for 2 patch-fibers, Is this the way I should go, or
 am
 I overlooking anything?


 Thanks in advance,
 Dirk-Jan van Helmond
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[c-nsp] quick VTP question.

2010-08-04 Thread Troy Beisigl
After reading up on VTP server configurations at Cisco, I wanted to  
get someone's real life experience sign off on this.


Cisco docs state that you can have more than one VTP server in a VTP  
domain and that updates on one will update the other and vise versa.  
My concern is that I have two switches that are in different domains  
and going to migrate one of them onto the same domain as the other.  
How will this affect the VLAN information? If I have both configured  
with the exact same VLANs and VLAN names, will this prevent a total  
loss of VLAN data in one or both of these switches?


Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

- Troy



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Re: [c-nsp] OT - Anyone else seeing downloads not working

2010-08-04 Thread Tony
I recently saw this xkcd comic and the first thing I thought of when I saw it 
was the Cisco website.

http://xkcd.com/773/


regards,
Tony.


  


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[c-nsp] mpls route target export question

2010-08-04 Thread Michael Sprouffske
I'm having a hard time grasping, just exactly what the export feature does.  
From what I see, the import command basically tells the vrf which routes to let 
into the table.  Can any body give me a answer as to what the export route 
target feature really does in a large network?



  
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Re: [c-nsp] mpls route target export question

2010-08-04 Thread Kenny Sallee
Here's my interpretation / explanation: In order to get a route into a VRF
there needs to be some type of tag the router can use to determine which
routes to import into a particular VRF.  This is done with route-target
export command.  In a particular vrf you'd route-target import what was
exported from other vrf's.  So it's the identifier that allows the router to
import whatever routes you want in the route-table of a particular VRF.
 Another way to say it: what is 'exported' from one VRF is a BGP extended
community that is sent by BGP in updates to other PE routers.  The other PE
routers use the extended community as that 'tag' for import into VRF's (or
not - depending on how the RT import is configured).

I believe the route-target exported needs to be unique across the entire
routing domain (else you could have one customer import other customers
routes).  RD can be different per PE router - but I'm not sure why anyone
would want to do that.  If if someone does - can you share thoughts on that?

See here: http://www.ciscopress.com/articles/article.asp?p=28259seqNum=5
http://ciscodreamer.blogspot.com/2009/08/vrf-route-target.html
and for night night reading:
http://ciscodreamer.blogspot.com/2009/08/vrf-route-target.html

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Michael Sprouffske msprouff...@yahoo.comwrote:

 I'm having a hard time grasping, just exactly what the export feature
 does.  From what I see, the import command basically tells the vrf which
 routes to let into the table.  Can any body give me a answer as to what the
 export route target feature really does in a large network?




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