Re: [c-nsp] Cisco Multicast Manager

2010-08-17 Thread Tim Jackson
The best box to monitor video with is an IneoQuest or two... :)

On Aug 16, 2010 8:44 PM, John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com wrote:
 We have very large numbers of high-bandwidth multicast video streams
 to monitor. The product is not vaporware, it's sitting on my desk!
 We've had it for a while, but no one has had time to implement it. I'm
 the new guy, so it was passed to me. I was hoping someone here had
 experience with it. I just wanted to hear some opinions of it. I
 haven't had a chance to develop an opinion of it since I haven't seen
 it running yet. I'm hoping to get it installed this week.

 On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Tony Varriale tvarri...@comcast.net
wrote:
 - Original Message - From: John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com

 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:02 AM
 Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco Multicast Manager


 Anyone here running CMM? I've been tasked with learning about it and
 installing it. We've apparently had it for a couple of months, but no
 one has had time to get it up and running. I'd love to hear if anyone
 here is running and what your thoughts are about it. It looks like it
 should be useful for us, but the documentation is a little bare on
 CCO. I probably won't really know how useful it will be until I get it
 installed. I've never even seen a working version of it, nor have I
 seen any screenshots of it. I'm the new guy.  lol

 This is the first time I've heard of it.  It may be vaporware LOL!

 The customers that I have that really use multicast just monitor it via
 their network management station (via SNMP).

 Mind if I ask what you are using multicast for and what your interest is
in
 such a product?

 tv
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Re: [c-nsp] BFD on SVI 12.2(55)SE

2010-08-17 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou

7600 will get it too  ;-)

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Raymond Lucas wrote on 17/08/2010 01:45:

Available now on ME switches... surely only a matter of time before it
(re-)appears on other platforms...

Unfortunately no documentation to go with it yet though.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/metro/catalyst3750m/software/release/12.2_55_se/release/notes/OL23055.html#wp241488

Ray

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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco Multicast Manager

2010-08-17 Thread Phil Mayers

On 08/16/2010 05:02 PM, John Neiberger wrote:

Anyone here running CMM? I've been tasked with learning about it and
installing it. We've apparently had it for a couple of months, but no
one has had time to get it up and running. I'd love to hear if anyone
here is running and what your thoughts are about it. It looks like it


We looked at it while back. It was way to expensive for what it did.

Do you use L3VPNs and MVPN? Does CMM handle that?
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Re: [c-nsp] elam trigger for src mac address

2010-08-17 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou


David Freedman wrote on 13/08/2010 19:35:

Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:
   

Does anyone know what is the trigger syntax for elam in order to match
on src mac address?

The only syntax i found being accepted is the following, but i'm not
sure if that is working.

show platform capture elam trigger dbus inband if SMAC=001e.f740.df00

 

Why inband?

Is there an IPv4 payload? can you not

show plat cap elam trigger dbus ipv4 if SMAC=001e.f740.df00

?

   
This isn't an IP packet (it probably has to with CFM) and i only know 
the source mac address.


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Re: [c-nsp] elam trigger for src mac address

2010-08-17 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou


David Freedman wrote on 13/08/2010 19:35:

Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:
   

Does anyone know what is the trigger syntax for elam in order to match
on src mac address?

The only syntax i found being accepted is the following, but i'm not
sure if that is working.

show platform capture elam trigger dbus inband if SMAC=001e.f740.df00

 

Why inband?

Is there an IPv4 payload? can you not

show plat cap elam trigger dbus ipv4 if SMAC=001e.f740.df00

?

   
This isn't an IP packet (it probably has to do with CFM) and i only know 
the source mac address.


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[c-nsp] OT: Plea for Pakistan Flood Victoms

2010-08-17 Thread Asif Gul Khan
Friends,



As you are already aware of the natural catastrophic disaster occurred in
Pakistan in recent month. Disaster on this scale would be devastating for
any country, but for Pakistan – a developing nation, chronically unstable
due to fight against terrorism - the consequences may go well beyond those
posed by the urgent need for humanitarian relief and for reconstruction in
the longer term.



So far, approximately 2000 people are believed to have died and millions
have made homeless. UN Office for the Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs
estimates that 13.8 million people have been affected by the floods, making
this a greater catastrophe than the Kashmir earthquake of 2005, or the Haiti
earthquake of earlier this year, each of which affected 3 million people, or
the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami, which affected 5 million.



People of Pakistan are fighting the battle against nature on its own but
this can’t be fought without international help that’s why UN chief Ban
Ki-moon has urged the world to urgently speed up aid but the international
response was very slow.

We fear we're getting close to the start of seeing a second wave of death if
not enough money comes through, due to water-borne diseases along with lack
of clean water and food shortages

The damage and the magnitude is too large for natural resources to cope with
it ... Pakistan needs your help.



Friends,




If anyone requires any more information in this regard or would like to
donate can unicast me.


Following are some links where you guys can donate:

https://secure.savethechildren.org/01/web_e_pakistan_flood_10
https://www.wfp.org/donate/pakistanflood
http://www1.networkforgood.org/support-flood-relief-pakistan
http://www.prcs.org.pk/default.asp
https://www.oxfam.org.uk/donate/pakistan-floods/index.php
http://www.globalgiving.org/projects/pakistan-flood/
https://www.concern.net/civicrm/contribute/transact?reset=1id=54
http://usa.humanityfirst.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=164:pakistan-flood-relief-1st-updatecatid=1Itemid=19

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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco Multicast Manager

2010-08-17 Thread John Neiberger
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:29 AM, Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
 On 08/16/2010 05:02 PM, John Neiberger wrote:

 Anyone here running CMM? I've been tasked with learning about it and
 installing it. We've apparently had it for a couple of months, but no
 one has had time to get it up and running. I'd love to hear if anyone
 here is running and what your thoughts are about it. It looks like it

 We looked at it while back. It was way to expensive for what it did.

 Do you use L3VPNs and MVPN? Does CMM handle that?

We do not use L3VPNs or MVPN. We just have a lot of streams to monitor.
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Re: [c-nsp] elam trigger for src mac address

2010-08-17 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2010-08-17 11:50 +0300), Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:

 This isn't an IP packet (it probably has to do with CFM) and i only
 know the source mac address.

AFAIK what you want to do, needs to be done by matching bit by bit.

First you specify pattern then you specify mask. So if you
want to match for SMAC of c00l.dead.babe it should be:

dbus others if data = 0 0 0 0xc00ldead 0xbabe [ 0 0 0 0x 0x 
]


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[c-nsp] Network Change Management

2010-08-17 Thread Jeff Wojciechowski
All:

I know there are tools out there like RANCID that help manage configuration 
changes but we want something that will be able to be able to have a system 
that will not only be able to document what changes were made, but to also 
document why.

Can anyone out there make recommendations on what change management tools they 
use or have used that might fit this bill?

We are open to either open source or something modestly priced.

Thanks,

Jeff Wojciechowski
LAN, WAN and Telephony Administrator
Midland Paper Company
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Re: [c-nsp] Network Change Management

2010-08-17 Thread Tomas Daniska
Maybe you want a system that enforces configuration workflow, such as LMS. 
There, you can comment each work order with *why* this is to be done. You have 
to enforce to have this documented before the changes are done, otherwise the 
operators will fail to comment ex-post, with increasing probability over time :)

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 All:
 
 I know there are tools out there like RANCID that help manage
 configuration changes but we want something that will be able to be able
 to have a system that will not only be able to document what changes
 were made, but to also document why.
 
 Can anyone out there make recommendations on what change management
 tools they use or have used that might fit this bill?
 
 We are open to either open source or something modestly priced.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jeff Wojciechowski
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 Midland Paper Company
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[c-nsp] Voice and nat

2010-08-17 Thread j s
I hope this is where I have to post this question at.
I have 2 routers.  r1 is the router connected to the net via an ethernet 
interface, it is performing nat to exit to the world, and r2 is a router behind 
it  and connects wireless users. 
r1 and r2 have a switch between them and few servers and end users are 
connected there.
The ip addresses of the devices on this switch is 192.168.1.0/24.  The ip  
addresses of the wlan customers is from 192.168.2.0/24. 
I have an asterisk Server connected to the switch having ip address 
192.168.1.111. 
Customers are able to connect to the asterisk from the outside network and 
getting sip calls with no problem. Customers from inside the network, coming 
from 192.168.1.0/24 too. 
The problem is with customers connected to the wifi network. Sip is ok, but rtp 
isn't.
Btw, all the customer are natted for getting to the internet.
There is also some traffic coming from the internet natted to the inside ip 
addresses of the servers.
Any Ideas?
Thank You all.










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[c-nsp] Cisco Nexus and Peer bit troubleshooting

2010-08-17 Thread Jmail Clist
Troubleshooting black hole issues again with the Nexus 7k. My question is..
is there a way to track when the peer bit is set/flagged so I can find when
my packets are going nowhere?

Thank you,
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco Multicast Manager

2010-08-17 Thread Andre Christian
I have used CMM for through several iterations of the product (from 2.3 - 3.1). 
We had about 500 streams, MPEG 2, MPEG 4, video, music channels, etc for an 
IPTV platform. 

The latest release is a major improvement and it provides a great GUI so people 
could see the multicast flows. 
I preferred to log into the routers but was required to provide additional 
monitoring capabilities for other non IP staff.

Ineoquests are extremely good as well, could also be extremely expensive. 

One thing to also think about is how many places you plan to monitor, 
traditional video people like monitoring everywhere, confidence checks, etc. 

Andre

On Aug 17, 2010, at 2:19 AM, Tim Jackson wrote:

 The best box to monitor video with is an IneoQuest or two... :)
 
 On Aug 16, 2010 8:44 PM, John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com wrote:
 We have very large numbers of high-bandwidth multicast video streams
 to monitor. The product is not vaporware, it's sitting on my desk!
 We've had it for a while, but no one has had time to implement it. I'm
 the new guy, so it was passed to me. I was hoping someone here had
 experience with it. I just wanted to hear some opinions of it. I
 haven't had a chance to develop an opinion of it since I haven't seen
 it running yet. I'm hoping to get it installed this week.
 
 On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Tony Varriale tvarri...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 - Original Message - From: John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com
 
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:02 AM
 Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco Multicast Manager
 
 
 Anyone here running CMM? I've been tasked with learning about it and
 installing it. We've apparently had it for a couple of months, but no
 one has had time to get it up and running. I'd love to hear if anyone
 here is running and what your thoughts are about it. It looks like it
 should be useful for us, but the documentation is a little bare on
 CCO. I probably won't really know how useful it will be until I get it
 installed. I've never even seen a working version of it, nor have I
 seen any screenshots of it. I'm the new guy.  lol
 
 This is the first time I've heard of it.  It may be vaporware LOL!
 
 The customers that I have that really use multicast just monitor it via
 their network management station (via SNMP).
 
 Mind if I ask what you are using multicast for and what your interest is
 in
 such a product?
 
 tv
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Re: [c-nsp] Network Change Management

2010-08-17 Thread john heasley
Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:18:28AM -0500, Jeff Wojciechowski:
 All:
 
 I know there are tools out there like RANCID that help manage configuration 
 changes but we want something that will be able to be able to have a system 
 that will not only be able to document what changes were made, but to also 
 document why.

not the most efficient method and requires discipline, but one could
annotate the CVS or SVN versions (cvs admin -m rev:msg file or svnadmin
setlog -r rev file) generated by rancid SCM commits for documentation.
you can also tag or branch to create named sets, such as replace_foundry.
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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Plea for [snip]

2010-08-17 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 8/17/10 2:46 AM, Asif Gul Khan wrote:

[snipped plea for charitable donations]

By definition, this list is email.

By definition, it is bulk.

Pleas for donations for charitable causes, no matter how worthy, in my
opinion and understanding of the purpose and charter of this list are by
definition unsolicited here.

Unsolicited bulk email by definition is spam.

In the spirit of the Boulder Pledge, I would encourage the subscribers
of this list to donate to charities that do not participate in or
condone network abuse in their promotional efforts.

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Re: [c-nsp] Network Change Management

2010-08-17 Thread Mark Meijerink
We have written an PHP page for running rancid for a certain device and adding 
CVS comments just like John noted in the
e-mail before. By using this method you can make your configuration changes and 
afterwards run rancid and add comments
to the config changes. This should help with adding the why factor to the 
configuration changes.

Regards,
 Mark

On 8/17/2010 5:51 PM, john heasley wrote:
 Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:18:28AM -0500, Jeff Wojciechowski:
 All:

 I know there are tools out there like RANCID that help manage configuration 
 changes but we want something that will be able to be able to have a system 
 that will not only be able to document what changes were made, but to also 
 document why.
 
 not the most efficient method and requires discipline, but one could
 annotate the CVS or SVN versions (cvs admin -m rev:msg file or svnadmin
 setlog -r rev file) generated by rancid SCM commits for documentation.
 you can also tag or branch to create named sets, such as replace_foundry.
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Re: [c-nsp] BFD on SVI 12.2(55)SE

2010-08-17 Thread Everton da Silva Marques
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:45:08AM +1200, Raymond Lucas wrote:
 
 Available now on ME switches... surely only a matter of time before it
 (re-)appears on other platforms...
 
 Unfortunately no documentation to go with it yet though.
 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/metro/catalyst3750m/software/release/12.2_55_se/release/notes/OL23055.html#wp241488

Any news on BFD support for static routes?

I've been expecting BGP+static for ages... :)

Everton
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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Plea for [snip]

2010-08-17 Thread Nick Hilliard

On 17/08/2010 18:15, Jay Hennigan wrote:

In the spirit of the Boulder Pledge, I would encourage the subscribers
of this list to donate to charities that do not participate in or
condone network abuse in their promotional efforts.


Jay,

I don't think you'd be saying this if half of California were under water 
(about the size affected in .pk), two thirds the population of CA were 
displaced by these floods, with 2000 dead, cholera breaking out, starvation 
looming for 6 million people due to the country's bread-basket being washed 
into the ocean and the United Nations calling it the worst humanitarian 
disaster in living memory.


And another thing: given the circumstances, equating Asif Gul Khan's email 
with spam is nauseously crass.


disgusted,

Nick
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[c-nsp] Migrating to a 7200 for DSL aggregation

2010-08-17 Thread Andy Dills

For the last decade, we've been using a Redback SMS 500 to terminate our 
DSL customers, delivered via ATM DS3.

Recently, however, a few customers (as well as the partners of the 
company) have expressed a desire to bond 2 DSL circuits.

Unfortunately, we've discovered that the customers who have Comtrend 
modems cannot negotiate LCP with the Redback when ppp multilink is 
enabled...after working through this with Comtrend, they demonstrated that 
the Redback is violating RFC 1990, and because of this and the fact that 
the Comtrend modem didn't support MP, it was unable to negotiate LCP.

At the same time, we're starting to get a little nervous about relying on 
Redback as a platform, given that all the equipment we currently use is 
EOL and Redback has long since been acquired. We have spares, but clearly 
it's a deadend.

So, we're investigating migrating to a 7200(VXR) platform for DSL 
aggregation.

I was curious about a couple of things:

1) Given that Verizon delivers all of the DSL connections on a 
region-based series of UBR PVCs, what is the best way to bond two DSL 
circuits, given that they would not be on private PVCs? Is MLPPP possible 
in that configuration? Or would I need to do CEF per-packet? Given the 
archives on this list, I'm leaning toward per-packet CEF via radius 
assigned routes. I know we won't get ideal performance, but it should be 
an improvement over a single DSL connection nonetheless.

2) What IOS do people suggest for ATM DSL aggregation...the router won't 
be doing anything else other than OSPF.

Thanks,
Andy

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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Plea for [snip]

2010-08-17 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 8/17/10 12:46 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote:

 I don't think you'd be saying this if half of California were under
 water (about the size affected in .pk), two thirds the population of CA
 were displaced by these floods, with 2000 dead, cholera breaking out,
 starvation looming for 6 million people due to the country's
 bread-basket being washed into the ocean and the United Nations calling
 it the worst humanitarian disaster in living memory.

And the situation is very well publicized worldwide.  Network news,
print newspapers, radio, television, portal sites such as Yahoo and CNN,
Red Cross campaigns, etc.  I very seriously doubt that anyone on this
list is learning about the situation here for the first time.

 And another thing: given the circumstances, equating Asif Gul Khan's
 email with spam is nauseously crass.

If Asif and the rest of us are members of multiple technical lists,
would it be appropriate for all of us to see this same message over and
over on each of them?

And if others are in the affected area, is it appropriate for each of
them to post similar pleas to each and every mailing list to which they
belong, regardless of the purpose of the list?

As a data point, according to the archives this is the first and only
post Asif has made to the list in over a year.  I only checked back as
far as August 2009.

 disgusted,

It is a slippery slope.  His is a worthy cause.  People are in need, no
question about it.  However if everyone with a worthy cause posted to
every unrelated forum, the signal-to-noise would become overwhelming.

Where would you draw the line?

--
Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net
Impulse Internet Service  -  http://www.impulse.net/
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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Plea for [snip]

2010-08-17 Thread Dominik Bay
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:44:20 -0700
Jay Hennigan j...@west.net wrote:

 It is a slippery slope.  His is a worthy cause.  People are in need,
 no question about it.  However if everyone with a worthy cause posted
 to every unrelated forum, the signal-to-noise would become
 overwhelming.

I would rather know how infrastructure problems are currently handled
there, specifically telecommunication. My encounters in the western
world are kind of soft in flooding/storm situations. Even Haiti was
not that hard as pre-earthquake infrastructure was pretty good opposed
to Pakistan, but still challenging organizational-wise.

Although this is off-topic too, it's more related to our daily work.

-- 
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Re: [c-nsp] OT: Plea for [snip]

2010-08-17 Thread Heath Jones
Oh I'd definitely draw the line at this single post about a mediocre cause,
Jay.
I couldn't even fathom how quickly the world would crumble if he did it on
more than one technical mailing list! That would be worse than say - I don't
know - a natural disaster in Pakistan!!
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco Nexus and Peer bit troubleshooting

2010-08-17 Thread Lincoln Dale
On 18/08/2010, at 1:24 AM, Jmail Clist wrote:

 Troubleshooting black hole issues again with the Nexus 7k. My question is..
 is there a way to track when the peer bit is set/flagged so I can find when
 my packets are going nowhere?

no idea what you mean by peer bit.

contact me off list with some details on what problems you're having and who 
you are, i'll be more than happy to assist.


cheers,

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[c-nsp] full duplex mismatch speed - dynamips

2010-08-17 Thread Jeferson Guardia
 Guys,

Anyone knows how to solve this on dynamips? (router with lan switch
connection) - I thought that setting
speed auto would solve it.

R3#
*Mar  1 00:12:08.323: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console
*Mar  1 00:12:10.027: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/0, changed
state t
o up
*Mar  1 00:12:11.027: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
FastEthern
et0/0, changed state to up
*Mar  1 00:12:23.527: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
Fast
Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
*Mar  1 00:12:24.079: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
Fast
Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
*Mar  1 00:12:26.295: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
Fast
Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
*Mar  1 00:13:10.571: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
Fast
Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
R3#
R3#
*Mar  1 00:13:59.455: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
Fast
Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).


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Re: [c-nsp] full duplex mismatch speed - dynamips

2010-08-17 Thread John Neiberger
Do you have two Cisco devices separated by a non-Cisco device? Imagine this:


A  B --- C

A and C are Cisco devices, B is not. If B is a switch or a hub, it
will pass CDP frames from A to C, which can cause these weird
mismatches. It's not really a mismatch because A and C are not
actually directly connected. CDP just thinks they are because B is
letting them pass through transparently.

Is that what's happening in your situation?

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Jeferson Guardia jefers...@gmail.com wrote:
  Guys,

 Anyone knows how to solve this on dynamips? (router with lan switch
 connection) - I thought that setting
 speed auto would solve it.

 R3#
 *Mar  1 00:12:08.323: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console
 *Mar  1 00:12:10.027: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/0, changed
 state t
 o up
 *Mar  1 00:12:11.027: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
 FastEthern
 et0/0, changed state to up
 *Mar  1 00:12:23.527: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 *Mar  1 00:12:24.079: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 *Mar  1 00:12:26.295: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 *Mar  1 00:13:10.571: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 R3#
 R3#
 *Mar  1 00:13:59.455: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).


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Re: [c-nsp] full duplex mismatch speed - dynamips

2010-08-17 Thread Alessandro Braga
Verify duplex and speed configurations on interface, the rule is:
autoXauto, forcedXforced. If problem not solve, disable cdp.

Att,
AB



2010/8/17 Jeferson Guardia jefers...@gmail.com:
  Guys,

 Anyone knows how to solve this on dynamips? (router with lan switch
 connection) - I thought that setting
 speed auto would solve it.

 R3#
 *Mar  1 00:12:08.323: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console
 *Mar  1 00:12:10.027: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/0, changed
 state t
 o up
 *Mar  1 00:12:11.027: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
 FastEthern
 et0/0, changed state to up
 *Mar  1 00:12:23.527: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 *Mar  1 00:12:24.079: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 *Mar  1 00:12:26.295: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 *Mar  1 00:13:10.571: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 R3#
 R3#
 *Mar  1 00:13:59.455: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).


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Re: [c-nsp] full duplex mismatch speed - dynamips

2010-08-17 Thread Alessandro Braga
Jeff,

use the 'show interface FastEthernet0/0' command on this router (R3)
and see a problem:

'duplex mismatch discovered on FastEthernet0/0 ''(not full duplex)''
- this interface not operate in fullduplex mode.'

Att,
AB

2010/8/17 Alessandro Braga sandro.u...@gmail.com:
 Verify duplex and speed configurations on interface, the rule is:
 autoXauto, forcedXforced. If problem not solve, disable cdp.

 Att,
 AB



 2010/8/17 Jeferson Guardia jefers...@gmail.com:
  Guys,

 Anyone knows how to solve this on dynamips? (router with lan switch
 connection) - I thought that setting
 speed auto would solve it.

 R3#
 *Mar  1 00:12:08.323: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console
 *Mar  1 00:12:10.027: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/0, changed
 state t
 o up
 *Mar  1 00:12:11.027: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
 FastEthern
 et0/0, changed state to up
 *Mar  1 00:12:23.527: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 *Mar  1 00:12:24.079: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 *Mar  1 00:12:26.295: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 *Mar  1 00:13:10.571: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 R3#
 R3#
 *Mar  1 00:13:59.455: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).


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Re: [c-nsp] full duplex mismatch speed - dynamips

2010-08-17 Thread Jeferson Guardia
 Guys,

Thanks for all replies, googling it I came across a link at groupstudy from
someone experiencing the same problem before when labbing up CCIE
topologies.

http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200701/msg01450.html

I think it is a dynamips 'bug/weird behavior' , the way of getting rid of
this issue is only disabling CDP, if anyone knows another way out, please
let me know.

rgs,

2010/8/17 Alessandro Braga sandro.u...@gmail.com

 Jeff,

 use the 'show interface FastEthernet0/0' command on this router (R3)
 and see a problem:

 'duplex mismatch discovered on FastEthernet0/0 ''(not full duplex)''
 - this interface not operate in fullduplex mode.'

 Att,
 AB

 2010/8/17 Alessandro Braga sandro.u...@gmail.com:
  Verify duplex and speed configurations on interface, the rule is:
  autoXauto, forcedXforced. If problem not solve, disable cdp.
 
  Att,
  AB
 
 
 
  2010/8/17 Jeferson Guardia jefers...@gmail.com:
   Guys,
 
  Anyone knows how to solve this on dynamips? (router with lan switch
  connection) - I thought that setting
  speed auto would solve it.
 
  R3#
  *Mar  1 00:12:08.323: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by
 console
  *Mar  1 00:12:10.027: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/0, changed
  state t
  o up
  *Mar  1 00:12:11.027: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
  FastEthern
  et0/0, changed state to up
  *Mar  1 00:12:23.527: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered
 on
  Fast
  Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full
 duplex).
  *Mar  1 00:12:24.079: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered
 on
  Fast
  Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full
 duplex).
  *Mar  1 00:12:26.295: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered
 on
  Fast
  Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full
 duplex).
  *Mar  1 00:13:10.571: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered
 on
  Fast
  Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full
 duplex).
  R3#
  R3#
  *Mar  1 00:13:59.455: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered
 on
  Fast
  Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full
 duplex).
 
 
  Rgs,
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Re: [c-nsp] full duplex mismatch speed - dynamips

2010-08-17 Thread Aaron
You would need to change the duplex (half or full) to solve this, not the
speed.

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 22:03, Jeferson Guardia jefers...@gmail.com wrote:

  Guys,

 Anyone knows how to solve this on dynamips? (router with lan switch
 connection) - I thought that setting
 speed auto would solve it.

 R3#
 *Mar  1 00:12:08.323: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console
 *Mar  1 00:12:10.027: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/0, changed
 state t
 o up
 *Mar  1 00:12:11.027: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
 FastEthern
 et0/0, changed state to up
 *Mar  1 00:12:23.527: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 *Mar  1 00:12:24.079: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 *Mar  1 00:12:26.295: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 *Mar  1 00:13:10.571: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 R3#
 R3#
 *Mar  1 00:13:59.455: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).


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Re: [c-nsp] full duplex mismatch speed - dynamips

2010-08-17 Thread Justin M. Streiner

On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Alessandro Braga wrote:


Verify duplex and speed configurations on interface, the rule is:
autoXauto, forcedXforced. If problem not solve, disable cdp.


Also, while auto speed/duplex negotiation is fine for user workstation/PC 
ports in most cases, I recommend against using it on your network 
infrastructure if you can help it.


jms
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Re: [c-nsp] ASA 8.3

2010-08-17 Thread P C
You may want to ask TAC for the latest Interim or disable SIP inspection if
you don't need it and see if either helps.

It may not help you, but in 8.0.5.x Cisco started mucking around with SIP
inspection; perhaps to fix the security vulnerability.  At one place in our
network it broke some trunking traffic.  At another it coredumped the
firewall every few hours.

While this is 8.0.5.something, although the same code has a way of finding
it's way into other releases.

As usual an update fixed it.



On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Antonio Soares amsoa...@netcabo.pt wrote:

 I was asked about packet tracer output and maybe this is relevant. Packet
 tracer tells me that the packet is allowed but it doesn't
 show the output interface. The output interface is actually interface Ma0/0
 that is used as a regular interface in this scenario. So
 i have this:

 Ma0/0 (inside, security-level 65) --- ASA --- G1/2 (outside, security-level
 0)


 Regards,

 Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS/SP)
 amsoa...@netcabo.pt

 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:
 cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Antonio Soares
 Sent: quinta-feira, 15 de Julho de 2010 17:28
 To: 'Joerg Mayer'; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASA 8.3

 Now i'm confused. Don't know if this is a SIP or NAT issue:

 When it works:

 %ASA-7-711001: SIP::OPTIONS received from outside:x.x.x.x/5060 to
 inside:SIPSERVER/5060

 When it doesn't work:

 %ASA-7-711001: SIP::OPTIONS received from outside:y.y.y.y/5060 to
 outside:SIPSERVER/5060

 x.x.x.x and y.y.y.y are different sources.

 For some reason, we see that the SIPSERVER appears in the wrong interface.
 I don't see any explanation to this behavior. I've
 checked and double-checked all the NAT entries and this doesn't make sense.

 Any ideas ?


 Thanks.

 Regards,

 Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS/SP)
 amsoa...@netcabo.pt

 -Original Message-
 From: Antonio Soares [mailto:amsoa...@netcabo.pt]
 Sent: quarta-feira, 14 de Julho de 2010 15:53
 To: 'Joerg Mayer'; 'cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net'
 Subject: RE: [c-nsp] ASA 8.3

 I see 5 SIP bugs in that list but they don't seem to match this issue.

 The link for those interested:


 http://www.cisco.com/web/software/280775065/33079/ASA-831-Interim-Release-Notes.html


 I forgot to mention but the SIP packets being dropped are UDP based. It's
 like a keepalive mechanism between SIP servers. The server
 in the Outside sends request:options and the server in the inside is
 supposed to reply with status: 200 OK.


 Thanks.

 Regards,

 Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS/SP)
 amsoa...@netcabo.pt

 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:
 cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Joerg Mayer
 Sent: quarta-feira, 14 de Julho de 2010 13:15
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ASA 8.3

 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:14:01AM +0100, Antonio Soares wrote:
  I have a customer running 8.3.1 that is facing a very strange issue. Some
 SIP packets are silenty dropped. This seems to be
 random.
  The SIP packets are of type request:options. The source and destination
 ports are the same: 5060. The outside interface has an
 ACL
  permitting this traffic. We also have the default service-policy applied.
 Anyone has seen something like this ? Any ideas of how
 to
  troubleshoot this ?

 You way want to take a look at the release notes of the interim 8.3.1.6.
 Some SIP bugs seem to have been fixed between 8.3.1 and 8.3.1.6.

 Ciao
Joerg
 --
 Joerg Mayer   jma...@loplof.de
 We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that
 works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology.
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Re: [c-nsp] full duplex mismatch speed - dynamips

2010-08-17 Thread Alessandro Braga
Jeff,

probably your configurations dont are correct or the autonegotiation
dont work properly, try put the shut and no shut commands on envolved
interfaces.

i dont remember of the any case this.


Rgs,

AB

2010/8/17 Jeferson Guardia jefers...@gmail.com:
  Guys,

 Thanks for all replies, googling it I came across a link at groupstudy from
 someone experiencing the same problem before when labbing up CCIE
 topologies.

 http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200701/msg01450.html

 I think it is a dynamips 'bug/weird behavior' , the way of getting rid of
 this issue is only disabling CDP, if anyone knows another way out, please
 let me know.

 rgs,

 2010/8/17 Alessandro Braga sandro.u...@gmail.com

 Jeff,

 use the 'show interface FastEthernet0/0' command on this router (R3)
 and see a problem:

 'duplex mismatch discovered on FastEthernet0/0 ''(not full duplex)''
 - this interface not operate in fullduplex mode.'

 Att,
 AB

 2010/8/17 Alessandro Braga sandro.u...@gmail.com:
  Verify duplex and speed configurations on interface, the rule is:
  autoXauto, forcedXforced. If problem not solve, disable cdp.
 
  Att,
  AB
 
 
 
  2010/8/17 Jeferson Guardia jefers...@gmail.com:
   Guys,
 
  Anyone knows how to solve this on dynamips? (router with lan switch
  connection) - I thought that setting
  speed auto would solve it.
 
  R3#
  *Mar  1 00:12:08.323: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by
  console
  *Mar  1 00:12:10.027: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/0,
  changed
  state t
  o up
  *Mar  1 00:12:11.027: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
  FastEthern
  et0/0, changed state to up
  *Mar  1 00:12:23.527: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch
  discovered on
  Fast
  Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full
  duplex).
  *Mar  1 00:12:24.079: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch
  discovered on
  Fast
  Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full
  duplex).
  *Mar  1 00:12:26.295: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch
  discovered on
  Fast
  Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full
  duplex).
  *Mar  1 00:13:10.571: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch
  discovered on
  Fast
  Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full
  duplex).
  R3#
  R3#
  *Mar  1 00:13:59.455: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch
  discovered on
  Fast
  Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full
  duplex).
 
 
  Rgs,
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Re: [c-nsp] cisco-nsp Digest, Vol 93, Issue 56

2010-08-17 Thread Yap Chin Hoong -

Hi there,

   Kindly provide the output of the show run int fa0/0 on RT3. Thanks.

regards,
YapCH
http://itcertguides.blogspot.com/

 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 23:03:44 -0300
 From: Jeferson Guardia 
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] full duplex mismatch speed - dynamips
 Message-ID:
 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 Guys,

 Anyone knows how to solve this on dynamips? (router with lan switch
 connection) - I thought that setting
 speed auto would solve it.

 R3#
 *Mar 1 00:12:08.323: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console
 *Mar 1 00:12:10.027: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/0, changed
 state t
 o up
 *Mar 1 00:12:11.027: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
 FastEthern
 et0/0, changed state to up
 *Mar 1 00:12:23.527: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 *Mar 1 00:12:24.079: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 *Mar 1 00:12:26.295: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 *Mar 1 00:13:10.571: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).
 R3#
 R3#
 *Mar 1 00:13:59.455: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 Fast
 Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Router FastEthernet1/3 (full duplex).


 Rgs,

  
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Re: [c-nsp] full duplex mismatch speed - dynamips

2010-08-17 Thread Jeferson Guardia
 Guys,

why no one read the 'dynamis' word on the subject? this is a particular
issue being experienced on a 3725 being used as a switch on DYNAMIPS... it
just doesnt work...

2010/8/17 Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.org

 On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Alessandro Braga wrote:

  Verify duplex and speed configurations on interface, the rule is:
 autoXauto, forcedXforced. If problem not solve, disable cdp.


 Also, while auto speed/duplex negotiation is fine for user workstation/PC
 ports in most cases, I recommend against using it on your network
 infrastructure if you can help it.

 jms

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[c-nsp] PA-FE-TX Duplex

2010-08-17 Thread Sridhar Ayengar


Is there any way to get a PA-FE-TX to autonegotiate duplex?

Peace...  Sridhar
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Re: [c-nsp] Migrating to a 7200 for DSL aggregation

2010-08-17 Thread Frank Bulk
You haven't mentioned current and anticipated PPS requirement.  If it's
really just one DS3 then a 7200VXR with NPE-G2 should be fine, otherwise if
your needs were 100+ Mbps and growing, the ASR1K, I'm told, is a good box.

We use 12.2(31)SB18 -- the latest in that series, but only because of a
resource bug that TAC said *may* be resolved in the latest release.  Came
across as just try. ;)

I haven't implemented any MLPPP myself, but as your research in the archives
has shown, it's not all roses.  I'm guessing ADSL2+ pair bonding or VDSL2
aren't options?

Frank

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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Andy Dills
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 2:03 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Migrating to a 7200 for DSL aggregation


For the last decade, we've been using a Redback SMS 500 to terminate our 
DSL customers, delivered via ATM DS3.

Recently, however, a few customers (as well as the partners of the 
company) have expressed a desire to bond 2 DSL circuits.

Unfortunately, we've discovered that the customers who have Comtrend 
modems cannot negotiate LCP with the Redback when ppp multilink is 
enabled...after working through this with Comtrend, they demonstrated that 
the Redback is violating RFC 1990, and because of this and the fact that 
the Comtrend modem didn't support MP, it was unable to negotiate LCP.

At the same time, we're starting to get a little nervous about relying on 
Redback as a platform, given that all the equipment we currently use is 
EOL and Redback has long since been acquired. We have spares, but clearly 
it's a deadend.

So, we're investigating migrating to a 7200(VXR) platform for DSL 
aggregation.

I was curious about a couple of things:

1) Given that Verizon delivers all of the DSL connections on a 
region-based series of UBR PVCs, what is the best way to bond two DSL 
circuits, given that they would not be on private PVCs? Is MLPPP possible 
in that configuration? Or would I need to do CEF per-packet? Given the 
archives on this list, I'm leaning toward per-packet CEF via radius 
assigned routes. I know we won't get ideal performance, but it should be 
an improvement over a single DSL connection nonetheless.

2) What IOS do people suggest for ATM DSL aggregation...the router won't 
be doing anything else other than OSPF.

Thanks,
Andy

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301-682-9972
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Re: [c-nsp] PA-FE-TX Duplex

2010-08-17 Thread John Neiberger
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Sridhar Ayengar ploops...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there any way to get a PA-FE-TX to autonegotiate duplex?

 Peace...  Sridhar

As long as both sides are set to auto, it should negotiate properly.

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Re: [c-nsp] full duplex mismatch speed - dynamips

2010-08-17 Thread sthaug
  Verify duplex and speed configurations on interface, the rule is:
  autoXauto, forcedXforced. If problem not solve, disable cdp.
 
 Also, while auto speed/duplex negotiation is fine for user workstation/PC 
 ports in most cases, I recommend against using it on your network 
 infrastructure if you can help it.

I would have agreed five to ten years ago. However, nowadays we use
autoneg everywhere with a few well known exceptions (e.g. Cisco 7200
with Fast Ethernet PAs). Autoneg simply gives us less problems.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no


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