Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
It's not only C routers. The J-series have 4x Gig interfaces, and that box definitely can't route 4 Gig of traffic. Though the issue is definitely more prevalent on the C side. The biggest commonality is that they are software routers. Although even on hardware routers, you'll run into things like backplane oversubscription... GG On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Aaron Seelye aseelye-li...@eltopia.com wrote: Agreed, but I think he was pointing out the fact that it's not routers that have this problem, it's c-routers :). -Aaron Jay Hennigan wrote: Scott Granados wrote: Better worded, a common issue with vendor C is that they have processors that the interfaces can't keep up with. Other vendors including one that starts with a J have fewer issues in this area.;) I think you have it bass-ackwards. There are interfaces that the processors can't keep up with. -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-...@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.111/2386 - Release Date: 09/21/09 05:51:00 ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-...@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
[c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
Dear group, Please help me to identify 8 port Fast Ethernet Card for Cisco 7206 VXR Router and how much Bandwidth points it will be occupy, Cisco 7206 VXR (NPE-G1) 6 Slots VXR Regards J.Daniels ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
Is there an 8 port FE card? There is an 8 port 10BT card but I don't know that there is an 8 port FE card... This may help. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/7200/configuration/7200_port_adapter_config_guidelines/3875In.html On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:46 AM, jack daniels jckdaniel...@gmail.com wrote: Dear group, Please help me to identify 8 port Fast Ethernet Card for Cisco 7206 VXR Router and how much Bandwidth points it will be occupy, Cisco 7206 VXR (NPE-G1) 6 Slots VXR Regards J.Daniels ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-...@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
Here's the document you need: Cisco 7200 Bandwidth Points http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps341/prod_presentation_list.html To add 8 FastEthernet Ports, you will need 4 * PA-2FE-TX. The NPE-G1 has 3 built-in GE interfaces. Regards, Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS) amsoa...@netcabo.pt -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of jack daniels Sent: terça-feira, 29 de Setembro de 2009 12:46 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router Dear group, Please help me to identify 8 port Fast Ethernet Card for Cisco 7206 VXR Router and how much Bandwidth points it will be occupy, Cisco 7206 VXR (NPE-G1) 6 Slots VXR Regards J.Daniels ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
Available port adaptors http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/modules/ps2033/ps2546/index.html Bandwidth points. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/7200/configuration/7200_port_adapter_config_guidelines/3875In.html#wp1053970 - Original Message - From: jack daniels jckdaniel...@gmail.com To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:46 PM Subject: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router Dear group, Please help me to identify 8 port Fast Ethernet Card for Cisco 7206 VXR Router and how much Bandwidth points it will be occupy, Cisco 7206 VXR (NPE-G1) 6 Slots VXR Regards J.Daniels ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ __ NOD32 4466 (20090929) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
I don't think any PA's exist with 8 FastE ports, only 8 Ethernet -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of jack daniels Sent: mardi 29 septembre 2009 13:46 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router Dear group, Please help me to identify 8 port Fast Ethernet Card for Cisco 7206 VXR Router and how much Bandwidth points it will be occupy, Cisco 7206 VXR (NPE-G1) 6 Slots VXR Regards J.Daniels ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
Hi, Please help me to identify 8 port Fast Ethernet Card for Cisco 7206 VXR Router and how much Bandwidth points it will be occupy, Cisco 7206 VXR (NPE-G1) 6 Slots VXR There is no 8-port Fast-Ethernet-Card for the 7206VXR, probably you mean an 8-port Ethernet-Card (PA-8E) instead? http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/7200/configuration/7200_port_adapter_config_guidelines/3875In.html#wp1061974 Bye, Werner -- transnet Internet Services GmbH Werner Detter - Netmaster Lilienstr. 3-5 81669 München http://www.trans.net supp...@trans.net ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
Hi , I'm a bit confused on - Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that you can use them at full speed.. Regards On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Howard Jones ho...@thingy.com wrote: On 29/09/2009 13:03, Antonio Soares wrote: Here's the document you need: Cisco 7200 Bandwidth Points http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps341/prod_presentation_list.html To add 8 FastEthernet Ports, you will need 4 * PA-2FE-TX. The NPE-G1 has 3 built-in GE interfaces. Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that you can use them at full speed... ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, jack daniels wrote: I'm a bit confused on - Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that you can use them at full speed.. A common issue with routers is that they have interfaces the processors can't keep up with. i.e. a 2621 router has two built in 100baseT interfaces. Try routing 100mbit/s of traffic through a 2621, and you'll be disappointed. -- Jon Lewis | I route Senior Network Engineer | therefore you are Atlantic Net| _ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 13:13, jack daniels jckdaniel...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a bit confused on - Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that you can use them at full speed.. NPE-G1 can't really pass more that 300-400 Mb/s of traffic without experiencing serious CPU load. -- Marko CCIE #18427 (SP) My network blog: http://cisco.markom.info/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
On 29/09/2009 13:03, Antonio Soares wrote: Here's the document you need: Cisco 7200 Bandwidth Points http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps341/prod_presentation_list.html To add 8 FastEthernet Ports, you will need 4 * PA-2FE-TX. The NPE-G1 has 3 built-in GE interfaces. Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that you can use them at full speed... ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
Hi Jack, you can't add eight 100Mbit-Interfaces additionally. The NPE-G1 has 3 build-in Gbit-Ports, the 7206VXR chassis is able to handle 6 additional Cards. One 100MBit FE-Card (PA-FE-TX/FX) allocates 200 Bandwith Points, a 2-Port FE-Card (PA-2FE-TX/FX) allocates 400 BW-Points. So, you probably have to buy four PA-2FE-TX/FX-Cards (if you cannot use the build-in Gbit-Ports for your purposes *or* if you can use them buy 5 PA-FE-TX/FX-Cards :-) Bye, Werner jack daniels schrieb: Hi , I'm a bit confused on - Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that you can use them at full speed.. Regards On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Howard Jones ho...@thingy.com wrote: On 29/09/2009 13:03, Antonio Soares wrote: Here's the document you need: Cisco 7200 Bandwidth Points http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps341/prod_presentation_list.html To add 8 FastEthernet Ports, you will need 4 * PA-2FE-TX. The NPE-G1 has 3 built-in GE interfaces. Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that you can use them at full speed... ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ -- transnet Internet Services GmbH Werner Detter - Netmaster Lilienstr. 3-5 81669 München http://www.trans.net supp...@trans.net ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
Hi again, So, you probably have to buy four PA-2FE-TX/FX-Cards (if you cannot use the build-in Gbit-Ports for your purposes *or* if you can use them buy 5 PA-FE-TX/FX-Cards :-) Sorry, little mistake here: with four PA-2FE-Cards you'd exhaust the Bandwith-Points. For each PCI-Bus you can stick in 1xPA2-FE and 1xPA-FE then the maximum for the PCI-Bus is reached (600 BP). Bye, Werner -- transnet Internet Services GmbH Werner Detter - Netmaster Lilienstr. 3-5 81669 München http://www.trans.net supp...@trans.net ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
Detter Werner wrote: Hi Jack, you can't add eight 100Mbit-Interfaces additionally. The NPE-G1 has 3 build-in Gbit-Ports, the 7206VXR chassis is able to handle 6 additional Cards. One 100MBit FE-Card (PA-FE-TX/FX) allocates 200 Bandwith Points, a 2-Port FE-Card (PA-2FE-TX/FX) allocates 400 BW-Points. So, you probably have to buy four PA-2FE-TX/FX-Cards (if you cannot use the build-in Gbit-Ports for your purposes *or* if you can use them buy 5 PA-FE-TX/FX-Cards :-) I would buy a switch with at least one Gbit port and eight FE ports and trunk to VLANs. -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
Jon Lewis wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, jack daniels wrote: I'm a bit confused on - Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that you can use them at full speed.. A common issue with routers is that they have interfaces the processors can't keep up with. i.e. a 2621 router has two built in 100baseT interfaces. Try routing 100mbit/s of traffic through a 2621, and you'll be disappointed. 2801 and 2811 have 10/100 ports, the 2821 has 1000/100/10 ports. Same principle still applies though. ;) ~Seth ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
:) A common issue with routers is that they have interfaces the processors can't keep up with. i.e. a 2621 router has two built in 100baseT Better worded, a common issue with vendor C is that they have processors that the interfaces can't keep up with. Other vendors including one that starts with a J have fewer issues in this area.;) - Original Message - From: Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router Jon Lewis wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, jack daniels wrote: I'm a bit confused on - Also, don't assume that because you can add 8 100Mbit interfaces, that you can use them at full speed.. A common issue with routers is that they have interfaces the processors can't keep up with. i.e. a 2621 router has two built in 100baseT interfaces. Try routing 100mbit/s of traffic through a 2621, and you'll be disappointed. 2801 and 2811 have 10/100 ports, the 2821 has 1000/100/10 ports. Same principle still applies though. ;) ~Seth ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
Scott Granados wrote: Better worded, a common issue with vendor C is that they have processors that the interfaces can't keep up with. Other vendors including one that starts with a J have fewer issues in this area.;) I think you have it bass-ackwards. There are interfaces that the processors can't keep up with. -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
You're right, I was trying to express that the interfaces were able to out perform / to fast for the processor. I.E. the 2621 example someone listed earlier. - Original Message - From: Jay Hennigan j...@west.net To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router Scott Granados wrote: Better worded, a common issue with vendor C is that they have processors that the interfaces can't keep up with. Other vendors including one that starts with a J have fewer issues in this area.;) I think you have it bass-ackwards. There are interfaces that the processors can't keep up with. -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] cisco 7206 VXR router
Agreed, but I think he was pointing out the fact that it's not routers that have this problem, it's c-routers :). -Aaron Jay Hennigan wrote: Scott Granados wrote: Better worded, a common issue with vendor C is that they have processors that the interfaces can't keep up with. Other vendors including one that starts with a J have fewer issues in this area.;) I think you have it bass-ackwards. There are interfaces that the processors can't keep up with. -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.111/2386 - Release Date: 09/21/09 05:51:00 ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
