Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
Even though the cards are not completely compatible for totals # of routes (3C vs 3CXL) the system should default to the lowest card but I would think that it would still power up the card and let it function normally. We're going to see about getting a 3CXL version of the 10G line card but the cooling issue has us concerned as well. There appears to only be one version of the fan module for the 7604 so would that mean that you would need a 7606 as a minimum to provide enough cooling??? Jose On 3/20/2014 4:41 PM, Pete Templin wrote: On 3/20/2014 1:23 PM, Lobo wrote: xxx#sh module Mod Sub-Module Model Serial Hw Status --- -- --- --- --- 1 Policy Feature Card 3 7600-PFC3CXL-10GE JAE14360195 1.2Ok 2 Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6700-DFC3C SAL15129JJT 1.4PwrDown Here's your answer: incompatible xFC models. You have a 3CXL supervisor but a 3C DFC aboard the 10G card. It won't power up when inserted into a running system. Step 1: remove the module immediately. If the device reloads now, it'll reboot into 3C mode, which means insufficient FIB slots for a full table, and that's Bad News(tm). Step 2: get a WS-F6700-DFC3CXL and replace the -DFC3C. Step 3: reinsert the card. pt ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
It will power up and default to 3C if you insert the card and reboot the 7600. On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Lobo loboti...@gmail.com wrote: Even though the cards are not completely compatible for totals # of routes (3C vs 3CXL) the system should default to the lowest card but I would think that it would still power up the card and let it function normally. We're going to see about getting a 3CXL version of the 10G line card but the cooling issue has us concerned as well. There appears to only be one version of the fan module for the 7604 so would that mean that you would need a 7606 as a minimum to provide enough cooling??? Jose On 3/20/2014 4:41 PM, Pete Templin wrote: On 3/20/2014 1:23 PM, Lobo wrote: xxx#sh module Mod Sub-Module Model Serial Hw Status --- -- --- --- --- 1 Policy Feature Card 3 7600-PFC3CXL-10GE JAE14360195 1.2Ok 2 Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6700-DFC3C SAL15129JJT 1.4 PwrDown Here's your answer: incompatible xFC models. You have a 3CXL supervisor but a 3C DFC aboard the 10G card. It won't power up when inserted into a running system. Step 1: remove the module immediately. If the device reloads now, it'll reboot into 3C mode, which means insufficient FIB slots for a full table, and that's Bad News(tm). Step 2: get a WS-F6700-DFC3CXL and replace the -DFC3C. Step 3: reinsert the card. pt ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
On 21/03/14 12:15, Lobo wrote: Even though the cards are not completely compatible for totals # of routes (3C vs 3CXL) the system should default to the lowest card but I would think that it would still power up the card and let it function normally. No; the PFC/DFCs must all match. The other PFC/DFC need to be *downgraded* to non-XL mode, and that need a chassis reboot. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
Agreed. But even after a reboot, the chassis is still not allowing this 6708 card to come up because it complains about insufficient cooling. This is pretty annoying as their documentation shows that the 7604 is compatible with this card but now we're starting to wonder if that's truly the case. Jose On 3/21/2014 9:42 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 21/03/14 12:15, Lobo wrote: Even though the cards are not completely compatible for totals # of routes (3C vs 3CXL) the system should default to the lowest card but I would think that it would still power up the card and let it function normally. No; the PFC/DFCs must all match. The other PFC/DFC need to be *downgraded* to non-XL mode, and that need a chassis reboot. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
This might help you: In the Cisco 6504 E, on the FAN-MOD-4HS fan-tray there is a switch at the rear. This switch should be in the A position. See Figure 2.1.1. This allows the fan to run in high-power mode. In this mode it generates an airflow of 100 ft3/min per slot. When the switch is in the M position it operates in the restricted-power mode and generates only 75 ft3/min per slot. The WS-X6716-10GE line card has a cooling requirement of 84 ft3/min. In this case it could prevent the line card from powering up. Note: on another FAN-MOD-4HS fan-tray the positions of the switch are labeled VARIABLE and FULL. The switch should be put in the VARIABLE position. On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Lobo loboti...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. But even after a reboot, the chassis is still not allowing this 6708 card to come up because it complains about insufficient cooling. This is pretty annoying as their documentation shows that the 7604 is compatible with this card but now we're starting to wonder if that's truly the case. Jose On 3/21/2014 9:42 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 21/03/14 12:15, Lobo wrote: Even though the cards are not completely compatible for totals # of routes (3C vs 3CXL) the system should default to the lowest card but I would think that it would still power up the card and let it function normally. No; the PFC/DFCs must all match. The other PFC/DFC need to be *downgraded* to non-XL mode, and that need a chassis reboot. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ -- Tim: ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
The build and price tool lists the 6708 and 6716 cards on the incompatible SKU list for the 7604. -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lobo Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 7:50 AM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis? Agreed. But even after a reboot, the chassis is still not allowing this 6708 card to come up because it complains about insufficient cooling. This is pretty annoying as their documentation shows that the 7604 is compatible with this card but now we're starting to wonder if that's truly the case. Jose On 3/21/2014 9:42 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 21/03/14 12:15, Lobo wrote: Even though the cards are not completely compatible for totals # of routes (3C vs 3CXL) the system should default to the lowest card but I would think that it would still power up the card and let it function normally. No; the PFC/DFCs must all match. The other PFC/DFC need to be *downgraded* to non-XL mode, and that need a chassis reboot. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
Only the 6716 is incompatible. I was just able to build one with the 6708. Jose On 3/21/2014 10:32 AM, Derek Denk wrote: The build and price tool lists the 6708 and 6716 cards on the incompatible SKU list for the 7604. -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lobo Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 7:50 AM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis? Agreed. But even after a reboot, the chassis is still not allowing this 6708 card to come up because it complains about insufficient cooling. This is pretty annoying as their documentation shows that the 7604 is compatible with this card but now we're starting to wonder if that's truly the case. Jose On 3/21/2014 9:42 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 21/03/14 12:15, Lobo wrote: Even though the cards are not completely compatible for totals # of routes (3C vs 3CXL) the system should default to the lowest card but I would think that it would still power up the card and let it function normally. No; the PFC/DFCs must all match. The other PFC/DFC need to be *downgraded* to non-XL mode, and that need a chassis reboot. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
Wow I never knew about that switch. Ours had the variable and full options and we moved it over to full. The fan is definitely running at the higher speeds but I think there's a problem with the reporting. The router still can't get the proper information from the fan module so it still thinks it's operating at 75 cfm. Reboots don't help it at all and so the 6708 still thinks it doesn't have enough cooling capacity to start it up. My colleague made an interesting observation and that is that prior to inserting the X6708-10G-3C card the fan was operating correctly and reporting everything like this: fan-tray 1: fan-tray 1 type: FAN-MOD-4HS fan-tray 1 mode: Restricted-power fan-tray 1 fan-fail: OK chassis per slot cooling capacity: 75 cfm Once the 6708 card is inserted, the fan module almost seems like it loses it's ROM information or something because it then reports like this: fan-tray 1: fan-tray 1 type: fan-tray 1 fan-fail: OK chassis per slot cooling capacity: 70 cfm This has happened twice now (once in the field and once in our lab). I'm wondering if the insertion is somehow affecting the fan module? Jose On 3/21/2014 10:40 AM, Tim Durack wrote: This might help you: In the Cisco 6504 E, on the FAN-MOD-4HS fan-tray there is a switch at the rear. This switch should be in the A position. See Figure 2.1.1. This allows the fan to run in high-power mode. In this mode it generates an airflow of 100 ft3/min per slot. When the switch is in the M position it operates in the restricted-power mode and generates only 75 ft3/min per slot. The WS-X6716-10GE line card has a cooling requirement of 84 ft3/min. In this case it could prevent the line card from powering up. Note: on another FAN-MOD-4HS fan-tray the positions of the switch are labeled VARIABLE and FULL. The switch should be put in the VARIABLE position. On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Lobo loboti...@gmail.com mailto:loboti...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. But even after a reboot, the chassis is still not allowing this 6708 card to come up because it complains about insufficient cooling. This is pretty annoying as their documentation shows that the 7604 is compatible with this card but now we're starting to wonder if that's truly the case. Jose On 3/21/2014 9:42 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 21/03/14 12:15, Lobo wrote: Even though the cards are not completely compatible for totals # of routes (3C vs 3CXL) the system should default to the lowest card but I would think that it would still power up the card and let it function normally. No; the PFC/DFCs must all match. The other PFC/DFC need to be *downgraded* to non-XL mode, and that need a chassis reboot. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net mailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net mailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ -- Tim: ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
Hi, On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 09:49:30AM -0400, Lobo wrote: Agreed. But even after a reboot, the chassis is still not allowing this 6708 card to come up because it complains about insufficient cooling. This is pretty annoying as their documentation shows that the 7604 is compatible with this card but now we're starting to wonder if that's truly the case. I think something with your fan board is broken. One of my 7604 lists: fan-tray 1: fan-tray 1 type: FAN-MOD-4HS chassis per slot cooling capacity: 90 cfm ... and that's enough. Yours lists 70 cfm, which is insufficient for the 84cfm the 6708 wants... gert -- USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW! //www.muc.de/~gert/ Gert Doering - Munich, Germany g...@greenie.muc.de fax: +49-89-35655025g...@net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de pgpET0hh1SyeM.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
Nor I, until one of my techs enlightened me :-) According to our testing, if the switch says Full/Variable, you need to set it to the Variable mode to get full cooling: Note: on another FAN-MOD-4HS fan-tray the positions of the switch are labeled VARIABLE and FULL. The switch should be put in the VARIABLE position. On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Lobo loboti...@gmail.com wrote: Wow I never knew about that switch. Ours had the variable and full options and we moved it over to full. The fan is definitely running at the higher speeds but I think there's a problem with the reporting. The router still can't get the proper information from the fan module so it still thinks it's operating at 75 cfm. Reboots don't help it at all and so the 6708 still thinks it doesn't have enough cooling capacity to start it up. My colleague made an interesting observation and that is that prior to inserting the X6708-10G-3C card the fan was operating correctly and reporting everything like this: fan-tray 1: fan-tray 1 type: FAN-MOD-4HS fan-tray 1 mode: Restricted-power fan-tray 1 fan-fail: OK chassis per slot cooling capacity: 75 cfm Once the 6708 card is inserted, the fan module almost seems like it loses it's ROM information or something because it then reports like this: fan-tray 1: fan-tray 1 type: fan-tray 1 fan-fail: OK chassis per slot cooling capacity: 70 cfm This has happened twice now (once in the field and once in our lab). I'm wondering if the insertion is somehow affecting the fan module? Jose On 3/21/2014 10:40 AM, Tim Durack wrote: This might help you: In the Cisco 6504 E, on the FAN-MOD-4HS fan-tray there is a switch at the rear. This switch should be in the A position. See Figure 2.1.1. This allows the fan to run in high-power mode. In this mode it generates an airflow of 100 ft3/min per slot. When the switch is in the M position it operates in the restricted-power mode and generates only 75 ft3/min per slot. The WS-X6716-10GE line card has a cooling requirement of 84 ft3/min. In this case it could prevent the line card from powering up. Note: on another FAN-MOD-4HS fan-tray the positions of the switch are labeled VARIABLE and FULL. The switch should be put in the VARIABLE position. On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Lobo loboti...@gmail.com mailto: loboti...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. But even after a reboot, the chassis is still not allowing this 6708 card to come up because it complains about insufficient cooling. This is pretty annoying as their documentation shows that the 7604 is compatible with this card but now we're starting to wonder if that's truly the case. Jose On 3/21/2014 9:42 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 21/03/14 12:15, Lobo wrote: Even though the cards are not completely compatible for totals # of routes (3C vs 3CXL) the system should default to the lowest card but I would think that it would still power up the card and let it function normally. No; the PFC/DFCs must all match. The other PFC/DFC need to be *downgraded* to non-XL mode, and that need a chassis reboot. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net mailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net mailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ -- Tim: ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ -- Tim: ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
When you insert a card that needs more than 75cfm, the fan will be switched from restricted-power to full-power by the IOS software. I'm starting to believe there are different FAN-MOD-4HS out there, and some of them only support 75cfm per slot (300cfm in total) vs. those that also support 94cfm per slot in full power mode (which you need for the X6708-10G-3CXL). Might be worth trying a newer hardware revision of the FAN-MOD-4HS. Chris Am 21.03.14 11:31, schrieb Lobo: Wow I never knew about that switch. Ours had the variable and full options and we moved it over to full. The fan is definitely running at the higher speeds but I think there's a problem with the reporting. The router still can't get the proper information from the fan module so it still thinks it's operating at 75 cfm. Reboots don't help it at all and so the 6708 still thinks it doesn't have enough cooling capacity to start it up. My colleague made an interesting observation and that is that prior to inserting the X6708-10G-3C card the fan was operating correctly and reporting everything like this: fan-tray 1: fan-tray 1 type: FAN-MOD-4HS fan-tray 1 mode: Restricted-power fan-tray 1 fan-fail: OK chassis per slot cooling capacity: 75 cfm Once the 6708 card is inserted, the fan module almost seems like it loses it's ROM information or something because it then reports like this: fan-tray 1: fan-tray 1 type: fan-tray 1 fan-fail: OK chassis per slot cooling capacity: 70 cfm This has happened twice now (once in the field and once in our lab). I'm wondering if the insertion is somehow affecting the fan module? Jose On 3/21/2014 10:40 AM, Tim Durack wrote: This might help you: In the Cisco 6504 E, on the FAN-MOD-4HS fan-tray there is a switch at the rear. This switch should be in the A position. See Figure 2.1.1. This allows the fan to run in high-power mode. In this mode it generates an airflow of 100 ft3/min per slot. When the switch is in the M position it operates in the restricted-power mode and generates only 75 ft3/min per slot. The WS-X6716-10GE line card has a cooling requirement of 84 ft3/min. In this case it could prevent the line card from powering up. Note: on another FAN-MOD-4HS fan-tray the positions of the switch are labeled VARIABLE and FULL. The switch should be put in the VARIABLE position. On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Lobo loboti...@gmail.com mailto:loboti...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. But even after a reboot, the chassis is still not allowing this 6708 card to come up because it complains about insufficient cooling. This is pretty annoying as their documentation shows that the 7604 is compatible with this card but now we're starting to wonder if that's truly the case. Jose On 3/21/2014 9:42 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 21/03/14 12:15, Lobo wrote: Even though the cards are not completely compatible for totals # of routes (3C vs 3CXL) the system should default to the lowest card but I would think that it would still power up the card and let it function normally. No; the PFC/DFCs must all match. The other PFC/DFC need to be *downgraded* to non-XL mode, and that need a chassis reboot. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net mailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net mailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ -- Tim: ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
Hmm, that's an interesting thought. Not the first time that a certain hardware version has had issues vs another version. We're attempting to RMA one of the fan modules and see if this resolves the problem. Jose On 3/21/2014 11:54 AM, Chris Welti wrote: When you insert a card that needs more than 75cfm, the fan will be switched from restricted-power to full-power by the IOS software. I'm starting to believe there are different FAN-MOD-4HS out there, and some of them only support 75cfm per slot (300cfm in total) vs. those that also support 94cfm per slot in full power mode (which you need for the X6708-10G-3CXL). Might be worth trying a newer hardware revision of the FAN-MOD-4HS. Chris Am 21.03.14 11:31, schrieb Lobo: Wow I never knew about that switch. Ours had the variable and full options and we moved it over to full. The fan is definitely running at the higher speeds but I think there's a problem with the reporting. The router still can't get the proper information from the fan module so it still thinks it's operating at 75 cfm. Reboots don't help it at all and so the 6708 still thinks it doesn't have enough cooling capacity to start it up. My colleague made an interesting observation and that is that prior to inserting the X6708-10G-3C card the fan was operating correctly and reporting everything like this: fan-tray 1: fan-tray 1 type: FAN-MOD-4HS fan-tray 1 mode: Restricted-power fan-tray 1 fan-fail: OK chassis per slot cooling capacity: 75 cfm Once the 6708 card is inserted, the fan module almost seems like it loses it's ROM information or something because it then reports like this: fan-tray 1: fan-tray 1 type: fan-tray 1 fan-fail: OK chassis per slot cooling capacity: 70 cfm This has happened twice now (once in the field and once in our lab). I'm wondering if the insertion is somehow affecting the fan module? Jose On 3/21/2014 10:40 AM, Tim Durack wrote: This might help you: In the Cisco 6504 E, on the FAN-MOD-4HS fan-tray there is a switch at the rear. This switch should be in the A position. See Figure 2.1.1. This allows the fan to run in high-power mode. In this mode it generates an airflow of 100 ft3/min per slot. When the switch is in the M position it operates in the restricted-power mode and generates only 75 ft3/min per slot. The WS-X6716-10GE line card has a cooling requirement of 84 ft3/min. In this case it could prevent the line card from powering up. Note: on another FAN-MOD-4HS fan-tray the positions of the switch are labeled VARIABLE and FULL. The switch should be put in the VARIABLE position. On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Lobo loboti...@gmail.com mailto:loboti...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. But even after a reboot, the chassis is still not allowing this 6708 card to come up because it complains about insufficient cooling. This is pretty annoying as their documentation shows that the 7604 is compatible with this card but now we're starting to wonder if that's truly the case. Jose On 3/21/2014 9:42 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 21/03/14 12:15, Lobo wrote: Even though the cards are not completely compatible for totals # of routes (3C vs 3CXL) the system should default to the lowest card but I would think that it would still power up the card and let it function normally. No; the PFC/DFCs must all match. The other PFC/DFC need to be *downgraded* to non-XL mode, and that need a chassis reboot. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net mailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net mailto:cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ -- Tim: ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
Could we get a show power and show environment output? On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Lobo loboti...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone. Looking for some assistance or if anyone has had any experience with the WS-X6708-10G-3C line card. We're trying to use this particular card in our 7604 chassis which has the RSP720-3CXL-10GE processor and 2700W DC power supply. However, we get errors and the card does not get power to it and in other cases it says there is not enough cooling for it. Should this card work in this particular setup? The only other card we have in the chassis is the X6724-SFP which is functioning fine. Thanks. Jose ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
Here you go: xxx#sh module Mod Ports Card Type Model Serial No. --- - -- -- --- 15 Route Switch Processor 720 10GE (Activ RSP720-3CXL-10GE JAE1436024O 28 CEF720 8 port 10GE with DFC WS-X6708-10GE SAL1515B29K 3 24 CEF720 24 port 1000mb SFP WS-X6724-SFP SAD095100MX Mod MAC addresses HwFw Sw Status --- -- -- --- 1 0023.eb0e.af70 to 0023.eb0e.af77 2.2 12.2(33r)SRD 12.2(33)SRE5 Ok 2 e05f.b974.c5e8 to e05f.b974.c5ef 2.3 Unknown Unknown PwrDown 3 0015.6215.25a4 to 0015.6215.25bb 2.3 12.2(14r)S5 12.2(33)SRE5 Ok Mod Sub-Module Model Serial Hw Status --- -- --- --- --- 1 Policy Feature Card 3 7600-PFC3CXL-10GE JAE14360195 1.2Ok 1 C7600 MSFC4 Daughterboard 7600-MSFC4 JAE1436018L 2.2Ok 2 Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6700-DFC3C SAL15129JJT 1.4 PwrDown 3 Centralized Forwarding Card WS-F6700-CFC SAD094502FU 2.0Ok Mod Online Diag Status --- 1 Pass 2 Not Applicable 3 Pass xxx#sh power system power redundancy mode = combined system power total = 2198.70 Watts (52.35 Amps @ 42V) system power used = 958.02 Watts (22.81 Amps @ 42V) system power available = 1240.68 Watts (29.54 Amps @ 42V) Power-Capacity PS-Fan Output Oper PS Type Watts A @42V Status Status State -- --- -- -- -- - 1PWR-2700-AC/4 1319.22 31.41 OK OK on 2PWR-2700-AC/4 1319.22 31.41 OK OK on Pwr-Allocated Oper Fan Type Watts A @42V State -- --- -- - 1 76.86 1.83 OK Pwr-Requested Pwr-Allocated Admin Oper Slot Card-Type Watts A @42V Watts A @42V State State -- --- -- --- -- - - 1RSP720-3CXL-10GE378.00 9.00 378.00 9.00 onon 2WS-X6708-10GE 444.36 10.58 378.00 9.00 onoff (insuff cooling capacity) 3WS-X6724-SFP125.16 2.98 125.16 2.98 onon xxx# xxx#sh environment environmental alarms: system minor alarm on operating fan count (raised 2d02h ago) backplane: operating clock count: 2 fan-tray 1: fan-tray 1 type: fan-tray 1 fan-fail: OK clock 1: clock 1 OK: OK, clock 1 clock-inuse: in-use clock 2: clock 2 OK: OK, clock 2 clock-inuse: not-in-use power-supply 1: power-supply 1 fan-fail: OK power-supply 1 power-input: AC 110V power-supply 1 power-output-mode: low power-supply 1 incompatible with fan: OK power-supply 1 power-output-fail: OK power-supply 2: power-supply 2 fan-fail: OK power-supply 2 power-input: AC 110V power-supply 2 power-output-mode: low power-supply 2 incompatible with fan: OK power-supply 2 power-output-fail: OK module 1: module 1 power-output-fail: OK module 1 outlet temperature: 34C module 1 inlet temperature: 24C module 1 device-1 temperature: 29C module 1 device-2 temperature: 32C module 1 asic-1 (SSA-2) temp: 53C module 1 asic-3 temperature: 36C module 1 asic-4 temperature: 48C module 1 RP outlet temperature: 33C module 1 RP inlet temperature: 29C module 1 EARL outlet temperature: 30C module 1 EARL inlet temperature: 24C module 3: module 3 power-output-fail: OK module 3 outlet temperature: 30C module 3 inlet temperature: 22C module 3 device-1 temperature: 22C module 3 device-2 temperature: 26C chassis connector rating: 2016.00 Watts (48.00 Amps @ 42V) module 1 module 1 connector rating: 1260.00 Watts (30.00 Amps @ 42V) module 1 power consumption: 378.00 Watts ( 9.00 Amps @ 42V) module 2 module 2 connector rating: 2016.00 Watts (48.00 Amps @ 42V) module 2 power consumption: 444.36 Watts (10.58 Amps @ 42V) module 3 module 3 connector rating: 2016.00 Watts (48.00 Amps @ 42V) module 3 power consumption: 125.16 Watts ( 2.98 Amps @ 42V) chassis per slot cooling capacity: 70 cfm ambient temperature: 55C module 1 cooling requirement: 35 cfm module 2 cooling requirement: 84 cfm module 3 cooling requirement: 70 cfm On 3/20/2014 4:07 PM, Justin wrote: Could we get a show power and show environment output? On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Lobo loboti...@gmail.com mailto:loboti...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone. Looking for some assistance or if anyone has had any experience with the WS-X6708-10G-3C line card. We're trying to use this particular card in our 7604 chassis which has the RSP720-3CXL-10GE processor and 2700W DC power supply. However, we get errors and the card does not get power to it and in other cases it says there is not
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
Hi, I think you've got non-optimal/malfunctioning FAN Fan Type Watts A @42V State -- --- -- - 1 76.86 1.83 OK It should list FAN-MOD-4HS. It's obvious from this - chassis per slot cooling capacity: 70 cfm ambient temperature: 55C module 1 cooling requirement: 35 cfm module 2 cooling requirement: 84 cfm module 3 cooling requirement: 70 cfm Module 2 (your 6708 card) requests 84 cfm but current FAn is able to delivery 70 cfm per slot only.. Another thing you should be aware is that your 6708 card does not have XL DFC module, so it will ultimately drop your PFC mode of whole chassis to 3C (max 256K routes, smaller netflow capacity, etc.). I think you have to reboot the whole chassis to get this working, anyawy. Jiri Dne 20.3.2014 21:23, Lobo napsal(a): Here you go: xxx#sh module Mod Ports Card Type Model Serial No. --- - -- -- --- 15 Route Switch Processor 720 10GE (Activ RSP720-3CXL-10GE JAE1436024O 28 CEF720 8 port 10GE with DFC WS-X6708-10GE SAL1515B29K 3 24 CEF720 24 port 1000mb SFP WS-X6724-SFP SAD095100MX Mod MAC addresses HwFw Sw Status --- -- -- --- 1 0023.eb0e.af70 to 0023.eb0e.af77 2.2 12.2(33r)SRD 12.2(33)SRE5 Ok 2 e05f.b974.c5e8 to e05f.b974.c5ef 2.3 Unknown Unknown PwrDown 3 0015.6215.25a4 to 0015.6215.25bb 2.3 12.2(14r)S5 12.2(33)SRE5 Ok Mod Sub-Module Model Serial Hw Status --- -- --- --- --- 1 Policy Feature Card 3 7600-PFC3CXL-10GE JAE14360195 1.2Ok 1 C7600 MSFC4 Daughterboard 7600-MSFC4 JAE1436018L 2.2Ok 2 Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6700-DFC3C SAL15129JJT 1.4 PwrDown 3 Centralized Forwarding Card WS-F6700-CFC SAD094502FU 2.0Ok Mod Online Diag Status --- 1 Pass 2 Not Applicable 3 Pass xxx#sh power system power redundancy mode = combined system power total = 2198.70 Watts (52.35 Amps @ 42V) system power used = 958.02 Watts (22.81 Amps @ 42V) system power available = 1240.68 Watts (29.54 Amps @ 42V) Power-Capacity PS-Fan Output Oper PS Type Watts A @42V Status Status State -- --- -- -- -- - 1PWR-2700-AC/4 1319.22 31.41 OK OK on 2PWR-2700-AC/4 1319.22 31.41 OK OK on Pwr-Allocated Oper Fan Type Watts A @42V State -- --- -- - 1 76.86 1.83 OK Pwr-Requested Pwr-Allocated Admin Oper Slot Card-Type Watts A @42V Watts A @42V State State -- --- -- --- -- - - 1RSP720-3CXL-10GE378.00 9.00 378.00 9.00 onon 2WS-X6708-10GE 444.36 10.58 378.00 9.00 onoff (insuff cooling capacity) 3WS-X6724-SFP125.16 2.98 125.16 2.98 onon xxx# xxx#sh environment environmental alarms: system minor alarm on operating fan count (raised 2d02h ago) backplane: operating clock count: 2 fan-tray 1: fan-tray 1 type: fan-tray 1 fan-fail: OK clock 1: clock 1 OK: OK, clock 1 clock-inuse: in-use clock 2: clock 2 OK: OK, clock 2 clock-inuse: not-in-use power-supply 1: power-supply 1 fan-fail: OK power-supply 1 power-input: AC 110V power-supply 1 power-output-mode: low power-supply 1 incompatible with fan: OK power-supply 1 power-output-fail: OK power-supply 2: power-supply 2 fan-fail: OK power-supply 2 power-input: AC 110V power-supply 2 power-output-mode: low power-supply 2 incompatible with fan: OK power-supply 2 power-output-fail: OK module 1: module 1 power-output-fail: OK module 1 outlet temperature: 34C module 1 inlet temperature: 24C module 1 device-1 temperature: 29C module 1 device-2 temperature: 32C module 1 asic-1 (SSA-2) temp: 53C module 1 asic-3 temperature: 36C module 1 asic-4 temperature: 48C module 1 RP outlet temperature: 33C module 1 RP inlet temperature: 29C module 1 EARL outlet temperature: 30C module 1 EARL inlet temperature: 24C module 3: module 3 power-output-fail: OK module 3 outlet temperature: 30C module 3 inlet temperature: 22C module 3 device-1 temperature: 22C module 3 device-2 temperature: 26C chassis connector rating: 2016.00 Watts (48.00 Amps @ 42V) module 1 module 1 connector rating: 1260.00 Watts (30.00 Amps @ 42V) module 1 power consumption: 378.00 Watts ( 9.00 Amps @ 42V) module 2 module 2 connector rating: 2016.00 Watts (48.00 Amps @ 42V) module 2 power consumption: 444.36 Watts (10.58
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
On 3/20/2014 1:23 PM, Lobo wrote: xxx#sh module Mod Sub-Module Model Serial Hw Status --- -- --- --- --- 1 Policy Feature Card 3 7600-PFC3CXL-10GE JAE14360195 1.2Ok 2 Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6700-DFC3C SAL15129JJT 1.4 PwrDown Here's your answer: incompatible xFC models. You have a 3CXL supervisor but a 3C DFC aboard the 10G card. It won't power up when inserted into a running system. Step 1: remove the module immediately. If the device reloads now, it'll reboot into 3C mode, which means insufficient FIB slots for a full table, and that's Bad News(tm). Step 2: get a WS-F6700-DFC3CXL and replace the -DFC3C. Step 3: reinsert the card. pt ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 01:41:12PM -0700, Pete Templin wrote: On 3/20/2014 1:23 PM, Lobo wrote: xxx#sh module Mod Sub-Module Model Serial Hw Status --- -- --- --- --- 1 Policy Feature Card 3 7600-PFC3CXL-10GE JAE14360195 1.2Ok 2 Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6700-DFC3C SAL15129JJT 1.4PwrDown Here's your answer: incompatible xFC models. You have a 3CXL supervisor but a 3C DFC aboard the 10G card. It won't power up when inserted into a running system. Step 1: remove the module immediately. If the device reloads now, it'll reboot into 3C mode, which means insufficient FIB slots for a full table, and that's Bad News(tm). Step 2: get a WS-F6700-DFC3CXL and replace the -DFC3C. Step 3: reinsert the card. one could swap the DFC with a CFC depending on your needs as well. - jared -- Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from ja...@puck.nether.net clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
On 3/20/2014 4:21 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: one could swap the DFC with a CFC depending on your needs as well. - jared I can't speak definitively, but I don't think that's possible on a X6708. They certainly aren't sold directly with a CFC. pt ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] X6708-10G-3C compatible with 7604 chassis?
On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 16:50 -0700, Pete Templin wrote: On 3/20/2014 4:21 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: one could swap the DFC with a CFC depending on your needs as well. - jared I can't speak definitively, but I don't think that's possible on a X6708. They certainly aren't sold directly with a CFC. They come with a soldered-on DFC. There's no way to change the DFC, neither from non-XL to XL (or vice versa) nor to a DFC4, rendering the cards useless when e.g. upgrading to Sup2T. -- Peter ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
