Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem

2018-10-23 Thread NateCCIE
Esxi on dest only, os admin on source, it installs a cop file on source to pull 
the data. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Dave Goodwin  wrote:
> 
> I don’t have an easy way to check at the moment, but I think/hope that it’s 
> not required on the source side of the migration, and it just uses OS 
> credentials to send a shutdown. I know on the destination side ESXi is 
> required, because it maps the ISO via NFS, powers up the VM, etc. 
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 6:23 PM Matthew Loraditch 
>>  wrote:
>> Good question, because there is no way I’m getting the esxi login.
>> 
>> Get Outlook for iOS
>>  
>> Matthew Loraditch​
>> Sr. Network Engineer
>> p: 443.541.1518
>> w: www.heliontechnologies.com |  e: 
>> mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Dave Goodwin 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:21:49 PM
>> To: NateCCIE
>> Cc: Brian Meade; Matthew Loraditch; cisco-voip voyp list
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem
>>  
>> It’s been a while since I did a PCD migration, but does it also require that 
>> PCD log into ESXi on both the source and destination VMware servers? Or does 
>> it only need ESXi access on destination?
>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 6:08 PM NateCCIE  wrote:
>>> If you can get osadmin credentials, consider PCD migration.  It will change 
>>> the IPs and upgrade all in one nice step.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Brian 
>>> Meade
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:47 PM
>>> To: Matthew Loraditch 
>>> Cc: cisco-voip voyp list 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> They'll do DRS for moving to HCS from on-prem.  They'll setup everything 
>>> with your hostnames/IPs to restore then they'll make all their changes.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Opposite should be technically possible but probably depends on the HCS 
>>> partner if they'll share enough information with you to be able to restore 
>>> and even get the DRS Backups from them at all.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Curious about moving from HCS to on-prem, was cost the main factor or 
>>> anything else?  I've got a bunch of customers trying to go to HCS so could 
>>> use some talking-points if customers are seeing issues.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:25 PM Matthew Loraditch 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting. The UCCX system is only 1 script and 10 agents so if that 
>>> caveat doesn’t apply for CUCM and CUC, I’d be ok with it
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for iOS
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Matthew Loraditch​
>>> 
>>> Sr. Network Engineer
>>> 
>>> p: 443.541.1518
>>> 
>>> w: www.heliontechnologies.com
>>> 
>>>  | 
>>> 
>>> e: mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Anthony Holloway 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:20:20 PM
>>> To: Matthew Loraditch
>>> Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
>>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Maybe some CDW people watching this mailing list will chime in, because I 
>>> happen to know that they do convert their own HCS customers to on-prem from 
>>> time to time.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From what I understand, you can restore it, but the configuration is all 
>>> jacked up, and you'll have to rename everything and/or reconfigure 
>>> everything anyway.  It might only make sense from a historical reporting 
>>> perspective.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Like, have you ever seen what ASDM does to a FW config?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Or what the CCP does to CME?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Or what CTI Logic was doing with "visual UCCX scripts?"
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Example:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> It's not that it's bad, it's just not a good long term solution to keep the 
>>> conventions the same.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> PS I just noticed the menu prompt says "pPressOneForHookers"  LOL, I'm not 
>>> sure what that's all about, but this image is from Tanner's tweet.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 3:19 PM Matthew Loraditch 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So we are taking a Customer from a 3rd party’s HCS back to On-Prem.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The way I understand HCS is it’s a bunch of management software on top of 
>>> normal VMs for CUCM/CUC/UCCX, etc.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Can you restore a DRF of an HCS CUCM to the same version on-prem? Same for 
>>> the other apps?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Matthew Loraditch​
>>> 
>>> Sr. Network Engineer
>>> 
>>> p: 443.541.1518
>>> 
>>> w: www.heliontechnologies.com
>>> 
>>>  | 
>>> 
>>> e: mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> 
>>> 
>>> cisco-voip mailing list
>>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> cisco-voip mailing list
>>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> cisco-voip mailing list
>>> 

Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem

2018-10-23 Thread Dave Goodwin
I don’t have an easy way to check at the moment, but I think/hope that it’s
not required on the source side of the migration, and it just uses OS
credentials to send a shutdown. I know on the destination side ESXi is
required, because it maps the ISO via NFS, powers up the VM, etc.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 6:23 PM Matthew Loraditch <
mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com> wrote:

> Good question, because there is no way I’m getting the esxi login.
>
> Get Outlook for iOS 
>
> Matthew Loraditch​
> Sr. Network Engineer
> p: *443.541.1518* <443.541.1518>
> w: *www.heliontechnologies.com*   |
> e: *mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com* 
> [image: Facebook] 
> [image: Twitter] 
> [image: LinkedIn] 
> --
> *From:* Dave Goodwin 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:21:49 PM
> *To:* NateCCIE
> *Cc:* Brian Meade; Matthew Loraditch; cisco-voip voyp list
>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem
>
> It’s been a while since I did a PCD migration, but does it also require
> that PCD log into ESXi on both the source and destination VMware servers?
> Or does it only need ESXi access on destination?
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 6:08 PM NateCCIE  wrote:
>
>> If you can get osadmin credentials, consider PCD migration.  It will
>> change the IPs and upgrade all in one nice step.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *Brian
>> Meade
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:47 PM
>> *To:* Matthew Loraditch 
>> *Cc:* cisco-voip voyp list 
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem
>>
>>
>>
>> They'll do DRS for moving to HCS from on-prem.  They'll setup everything
>> with your hostnames/IPs to restore then they'll make all their changes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Opposite should be technically possible but probably depends on the HCS
>> partner if they'll share enough information with you to be able to restore
>> and even get the DRS Backups from them at all.
>>
>>
>>
>> Curious about moving from HCS to on-prem, was cost the main factor or
>> anything else?  I've got a bunch of customers trying to go to HCS so could
>> use some talking-points if customers are seeing issues.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:25 PM Matthew Loraditch <
>> mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting. The UCCX system is only 1 script and 10 agents so if that
>> caveat doesn’t apply for CUCM and CUC, I’d be ok with it
>>
>>
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS 
>>
>>
>>
>> *Matthew Loraditch**​*
>>
>> *Sr. Network Engineer*
>>
>> p: *443.541.1518* <443.541.1518>
>>
>> w: *www.heliontechnologies.com* 
>>
>>  |
>>
>> e: *mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com*
>> 
>>
>> [image: Facebook] 
>>
>> [image: Twitter] 
>>
>> [image: LinkedIn] 
>> --
>>
>> *From:* Anthony Holloway 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:20:20 PM
>> *To:* Matthew Loraditch
>> *Cc:* Cisco VoIP Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe some CDW people watching this mailing list will chime in, because I
>> happen to know that they do convert their own HCS customers to on-prem from
>> time to time.
>>
>>
>>
>> From what I understand, you can restore it, but the configuration is all
>> jacked up, and you'll have to rename everything and/or reconfigure
>> everything anyway.  It might only make sense from a historical reporting
>> perspective.
>>
>>
>>
>> Like, have you ever seen what ASDM does to a FW config?
>>
>>
>>
>> Or what the CCP does to CME?
>>
>>
>>
>> Or what CTI Logic was doing with "visual UCCX scripts?"
>>
>>
>>
>> Example:
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>>
>>
>> It's not that it's bad, it's just not a good long term solution to keep
>> the conventions the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> PS I just noticed the menu prompt says "pPressOneForHookers"  LOL, I'm
>> not sure what that's all about, but this image is from Tanner's tweet
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 3:19 PM Matthew Loraditch <
>> mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com> wrote:
>>
>> So we are taking a Customer from a 3rd party’s HCS back to On-Prem.
>>
>>
>>
>> The way I understand HCS is it’s a bunch of management software on top of
>> normal VMs for CUCM/CUC/UCCX, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you restore a DRF of an HCS CUCM to the same version on-prem? Same
>> for the other apps?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Matthew Loraditch**​*
>>
>> *Sr. Network Engineer*
>>
>> p: *443.541.1518* <443.541.1518>
>>
>> w: *www.heliontechnologies.com* 
>>
>>  |
>>
>> e: *mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com*
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 

Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem

2018-10-23 Thread Matthew Loraditch
Good question, because there is no way I’m getting the esxi login.

Get Outlook for iOS


Matthew Loraditch
Sr. Network Engineer
p: 443.541.1518
w: www.heliontechnologies.com | e: mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com
From: Dave Goodwin 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:21:49 PM
To: NateCCIE
Cc: Brian Meade; Matthew Loraditch; cisco-voip voyp list
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem

It’s been a while since I did a PCD migration, but does it also require that 
PCD log into ESXi on both the source and destination VMware servers? Or does it 
only need ESXi access on destination?

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 6:08 PM NateCCIE 
mailto:natec...@gmail.com>> wrote:
If you can get osadmin credentials, consider PCD migration.  It will change the 
IPs and upgrade all in one nice step.

From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Brian Meade
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:47 PM
To: Matthew Loraditch 
mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com>>
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem

They'll do DRS for moving to HCS from on-prem.  They'll setup everything with 
your hostnames/IPs to restore then they'll make all their changes.

Opposite should be technically possible but probably depends on the HCS partner 
if they'll share enough information with you to be able to restore and even get 
the DRS Backups from them at all.

Curious about moving from HCS to on-prem, was cost the main factor or anything 
else?  I've got a bunch of customers trying to go to HCS so could use some 
talking-points if customers are seeing issues.


On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:25 PM Matthew Loraditch 
mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com>> 
wrote:
Interesting. The UCCX system is only 1 script and 10 agents so if that caveat 
doesn’t apply for CUCM and CUC, I’d be ok with it

Get Outlook for iOS


Matthew Loraditch​

Sr. Network Engineer


p: 443.541.1518



w: www.heliontechnologies.com

 |

e: mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com


[X]


[Facebook]



[Twitter]


[LinkedIn]








From: Anthony Holloway 
mailto:avholloway%2bcisco-v...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:20:20 PM
To: Matthew Loraditch
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem

Maybe some CDW people watching this mailing list will chime in, because I 
happen to know that they do convert their own HCS customers to on-prem from 
time to time.

>From what I understand, you can restore it, but the configuration is all 
>jacked up, and you'll have to rename everything and/or reconfigure everything 
>anyway.  It might only make sense from a historical reporting perspective.

Like, have you ever seen what ASDM does to a FW config?

Or what the CCP does to CME?

Or what CTI Logic was doing with "visual UCCX scripts?"

Example:

[image.png]

It's not that it's bad, it's just not a good long term solution to keep the 
conventions the same.

PS I just noticed the menu prompt says "pPressOneForHookers"  LOL, I'm not sure 
what that's all about, but this image is from Tanner's 
tweet.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 3:19 PM Matthew Loraditch 
mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com>> 
wrote:
So we are taking a Customer from a 3rd party’s HCS back to On-Prem.

The way I understand HCS is it’s a bunch of management software on top of 
normal VMs for CUCM/CUC/UCCX, etc.

Can you restore a DRF of an HCS CUCM to the same version on-prem? Same for the 
other apps?


Matthew Loraditch​

Sr. Network Engineer


p: 443.541.1518



w: www.heliontechnologies.com

 |

e: mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com



















___

cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
___
cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
___
cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
___
cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip


Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem

2018-10-23 Thread Dave Goodwin
It’s been a while since I did a PCD migration, but does it also require
that PCD log into ESXi on both the source and destination VMware servers?
Or does it only need ESXi access on destination?

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 6:08 PM NateCCIE  wrote:

> If you can get osadmin credentials, consider PCD migration.  It will
> change the IPs and upgrade all in one nice step.
>
>
>
> *From:* cisco-voip  *On Behalf Of *Brian
> Meade
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:47 PM
> *To:* Matthew Loraditch 
> *Cc:* cisco-voip voyp list 
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem
>
>
>
> They'll do DRS for moving to HCS from on-prem.  They'll setup everything
> with your hostnames/IPs to restore then they'll make all their changes.
>
>
>
> Opposite should be technically possible but probably depends on the HCS
> partner if they'll share enough information with you to be able to restore
> and even get the DRS Backups from them at all.
>
>
>
> Curious about moving from HCS to on-prem, was cost the main factor or
> anything else?  I've got a bunch of customers trying to go to HCS so could
> use some talking-points if customers are seeing issues.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:25 PM Matthew Loraditch <
> mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com> wrote:
>
> Interesting. The UCCX system is only 1 script and 10 agents so if that
> caveat doesn’t apply for CUCM and CUC, I’d be ok with it
>
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS 
>
>
>
> *Matthew Loraditch**​*
>
> *Sr. Network Engineer*
>
> p: *443.541.1518* <443.541.1518>
>
> w: *www.heliontechnologies.com* 
>
>  |
>
> e: *mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com* 
>
> [image: Facebook] 
>
> [image: Twitter] 
>
> [image: LinkedIn] 
> --
>
> *From:* Anthony Holloway 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:20:20 PM
> *To:* Matthew Loraditch
> *Cc:* Cisco VoIP Group
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem
>
>
>
> Maybe some CDW people watching this mailing list will chime in, because I
> happen to know that they do convert their own HCS customers to on-prem from
> time to time.
>
>
>
> From what I understand, you can restore it, but the configuration is all
> jacked up, and you'll have to rename everything and/or reconfigure
> everything anyway.  It might only make sense from a historical reporting
> perspective.
>
>
>
> Like, have you ever seen what ASDM does to a FW config?
>
>
>
> Or what the CCP does to CME?
>
>
>
> Or what CTI Logic was doing with "visual UCCX scripts?"
>
>
>
> Example:
>
>
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
>
> It's not that it's bad, it's just not a good long term solution to keep
> the conventions the same.
>
>
>
> PS I just noticed the menu prompt says "pPressOneForHookers"  LOL, I'm not
> sure what that's all about, but this image is from Tanner's tweet
> .
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 3:19 PM Matthew Loraditch <
> mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com> wrote:
>
> So we are taking a Customer from a 3rd party’s HCS back to On-Prem.
>
>
>
> The way I understand HCS is it’s a bunch of management software on top of
> normal VMs for CUCM/CUC/UCCX, etc.
>
>
>
> Can you restore a DRF of an HCS CUCM to the same version on-prem? Same for
> the other apps?
>
>
>
> *Matthew Loraditch**​*
>
> *Sr. Network Engineer*
>
> p: *443.541.1518* <443.541.1518>
>
> w: *www.heliontechnologies.com* 
>
>  |
>
> e: *mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com* 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> ___
> 
>
>
> cisco-voip mailing list
> *cisco-voip@puck.nether.net*
> *https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip*
> 
>
> ___
> cisco-voip mailing list
> *cisco-voip@puck.nether.net*
> *https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip*
> 
>
> ___
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
___
cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip


Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem

2018-10-23 Thread NateCCIE
If you can get osadmin credentials, consider PCD migration.  It will change the 
IPs and upgrade all in one nice step.

 

From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Brian Meade
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:47 PM
To: Matthew Loraditch 
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem

 

They'll do DRS for moving to HCS from on-prem.  They'll setup everything with 
your hostnames/IPs to restore then they'll make all their changes.

 

Opposite should be technically possible but probably depends on the HCS partner 
if they'll share enough information with you to be able to restore and even get 
the DRS Backups from them at all.

 

Curious about moving from HCS to on-prem, was cost the main factor or anything 
else?  I've got a bunch of customers trying to go to HCS so could use some 
talking-points if customers are seeing issues.

 

 

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:25 PM Matthew Loraditch 
mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com> > 
wrote:

Interesting. The UCCX system is only 1 script and 10 agents so if that caveat 
doesn’t apply for CUCM and CUC, I’d be ok with it

 

Get Outlook for iOS  



 


Matthew Loraditch​



Sr. Network Engineer




p:   443.541.1518



w:   www.heliontechnologies.com

 | 

e:   mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com











  


  


  

  _  

From: Anthony Holloway mailto:avholloway%2bcisco-v...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:20:20 PM
To: Matthew Loraditch
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem 

 

Maybe some CDW people watching this mailing list will chime in, because I 
happen to know that they do convert their own HCS customers to on-prem from 
time to time. 

 

>From what I understand, you can restore it, but the configuration is all 
>jacked up, and you'll have to rename everything and/or reconfigure everything 
>anyway.  It might only make sense from a historical reporting perspective.

 

Like, have you ever seen what ASDM does to a FW config?

 

Or what the CCP does to CME?

 

Or what CTI Logic was doing with "visual UCCX scripts?"

 

Example:

 



 

It's not that it's bad, it's just not a good long term solution to keep the 
conventions the same.

 

PS I just noticed the menu prompt says "pPressOneForHookers"  LOL, I'm not sure 
what that's all about, but this image is from Tanner's tweet 
 .

 

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 3:19 PM Matthew Loraditch 
mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com> > 
wrote:

So we are taking a Customer from a 3rd party’s HCS back to On-Prem.

 

The way I understand HCS is it’s a bunch of management software on top of 
normal VMs for CUCM/CUC/UCCX, etc.

 

Can you restore a DRF of an HCS CUCM to the same version on-prem? Same for the 
other apps?



 


Matthew Loraditch​



Sr. Network Engineer




p:   443.541.1518



w:   www.heliontechnologies.com

 | 

e:   mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com









  


  


  

  
___
cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip

  
___
cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip

___
cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip


[cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem

2018-10-23 Thread Matthew Loraditch
So we are taking a Customer from a 3rd party's HCS back to On-Prem.

The way I understand HCS is it's a bunch of management software on top of 
normal VMs for CUCM/CUC/UCCX, etc.

Can you restore a DRF of an HCS CUCM to the same version on-prem? Same for the 
other apps?

Matthew Loraditch
Sr. Network Engineer
p: 443.541.1518
w: www.heliontechnologies.com | e: mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com
___
cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip


Re: [cisco-voip] How to handle expired Phone-VPN-trust, phone-SAST-trust, other certificates

2018-10-23 Thread ROZA, Ariel
My main issue is not about the deletion process, but about the purpose and 
usefulness of each of those certificates. Being able to judge if it is good to 
delete or not certain certificates (even when expired).

I have this guide:
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/unified-communications/unified-communications-manager-callmanager/200199-CUCM-Certificate-Regeneration-Renewal-Pr.htm

that gives a description of the purpose of each store, but it does not give 
specifics on why is there a particular  certificate in a store. Ie. Why is 
there SERVER2.DER in the phone-vpn-trust store? Is this expected? Does a phone 
contact SERVER2 while using the Phone VPN? Is there by default, or someone 
added, even by mistake?

And the expired certs that I have are not some that are renewable. All of them 
are in -trust stores.

So I am quite puzzled about them.

De: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] En nombre de James 
Andrewartha
Enviado el: martes, 23 de octubre de 2018 12:39 a.m.
Para: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Asunto: Re: [cisco-voip] How to handle expired Phone-VPN-trust, 
phone-SAST-trust, other certificates

And if you have any problems deleting them (I had one that just would not go 
away and gave me alarms for years), just call TAC and they'll take you through 
the SQL to kill them permanently.

On 23/10/18 03:08, NateCCIE wrote:
The expired certs will throw alarms even if they have been superseded by newer 
certs.

So during a maintenance window, renew anything that is expired, and just delete 
all the old ones.  The newer versions of cucm make this easier by being able to 
sort by expiration date.

-Nate

From: cisco-voip 
 
On Behalf Of ROZA, Ariel
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 11:52 AM
To: cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 

Subject: [cisco-voip] How to handle expired Phone-VPN-trust, phone-SAST-trust, 
other certificates

Hi, guys!

I have a customer that is receiving alarms over some expired certificates, and 
I would like to know which is the best way to handle them.
The certs are loaded in SERVER1 and all named SERVER2.der, except the CAPF ones.
.der in phone-vpn-trust.
 .der in phone-trust
.der in phone-SAST-trust
.der in phone-CTL-trust
And several CAPF-xx.der in Callmanager-trust

So far I have dealt with renewing Callmanager, TFTP and TVS cert, but I always 
kept clear from those other certs
Shoud I delete them, shoud I keep them, even as they are expired and throwing 
alarms?


Regards.


Ariel Roza
Collaboration Support Engineer
t: +54 11 5282-0458
c: +54 9 11 5017-4417 webex: 
http://logicalis-la.webex.com/join/ariel.roza
Av. Belgrano 955 - Piso 20 - CABA - Argentina - C1092AAJ
www.la.logicalis.com
_
Business and technology working as one
[cid:image003.png@01D3894B.346BF840]

[cid:image005.png@01D3894B.43930F20]

[cid:image003.jpg@01D46ACF.21A234C0][Descripción: Descripción: Descripción: 
   Descripción: Descripción: Descripción: Descripción:  
  Descripción: Descripción: Descripción: Descripción:
Descripción: Descripción: Descripción: Descripción:
Descripción: 
tw]
 [Descripción: Descripción: Descripción:Descripción: 
Descripción: Descripción: Descripción:Descripción: 
Descripción: Descripción: Descripción:Descripción: 
Descripción: Descripción: Descripción:Descripción: fb] 

  [Descripción: Descripción: Descripción:Descripción: 
Descripción: Descripción: Descripción:Descripción: 
Descripción: Descripción: Descripción:Descripción: 

Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX question

2018-10-23 Thread Anthony Holloway
Yes

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 10:13 AM Terry Oakley 
wrote:

> We are running UCCX 11.6.1 and want to be able to allow our ServiceDesk
> team the ability to change queue messaging without touching the application
> side.   Is there a way to point the prompts to an exterior storage location
> or add ‘triggers’ that will allow them to change the message that callers
> get when they connect to the queue?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>
>
>
> Terry
>
>
>
> *Terry Oakley*
>
> Telecommunications Coordinator *| *Information Technology Services
>
> *Red Deer College **|*100 College Blvd. *|* Box 5005 *| *Red Deer *|* Alberta
> *| *T4N 5H5
>
> work (403) 342-*3521   **| * FAX (403) 343-4034
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ___
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
___
cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip


[cisco-voip] UCCX question

2018-10-23 Thread Terry Oakley
We are running UCCX 11.6.1 and want to be able to allow our ServiceDesk team 
the ability to change queue messaging without touching the application side.   
Is there a way to point the prompts to an exterior storage location or add 
'triggers' that will allow them to change the message that callers get when 
they connect to the queue?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Terry

Terry Oakley
Telecommunications Coordinator | Information Technology Services
Red Deer College |100 College Blvd. | Box 5005 | Red Deer | Alberta | T4N 5H5
work (403) 342-3521   |  FAX (403) 343-4034



___
cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip


Re: [cisco-voip] Application user password

2018-10-23 Thread Anthony Holloway
A few months ago I posted about CUCM and Auto Filling passwords in your
browser, and how it compromises your passwords.

If you're lucky, someone had the application user/pass saved, and their
browser populated one or more fields with it.

It's worth a shot:
https://cisco-voip.markmail.org/thread/bhlnakqgh3g3dolp

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 9:06 AM Scott Voll  wrote:

> Any way to find out what an application user password is?  I really don't
> what to reset it, so I was hoping there was a way to find it.
>
> Thanks
>
> scott
>
> ___
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
___
cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip


Re: [cisco-voip] Application user password

2018-10-23 Thread Stephen Welsh
Hi Scott,

As far as I’m aware the application user password is hashed when stored in the 
CUCM DB, don’t believe it’s possible to obtain the original password.

I guess this is related to your enquiry about PhoneFX, I’ve replied to your 
question directly.

Also,
We are hosting a bunch of webinars over then next few months including the next 
version of PhoneView (7.0) that introduces more unique features including 
Virtual Endpoints. Basically you can register multiple Jabber soft phone 
instances from a single PC, no need to muck about with your Jabber client 
config. Place multiple calls (across clusters too) all without touching a 
single physical phone as part of the addition of SoftPhone support in 7.0 too.

This video has a short demo of the virtual endpoint feature:

https://youtu.be/NAbx7xLlTqU

Register for the event(s) here:

UnifiedFX 
Webinars

Kind Regards

Stephen Welsh
Founder & CTO
UnifiedFX

On 23 Oct 2018, at 15:05, Scott Voll 
mailto:svoll.v...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Any way to find out what an application user password is?  I really don't what 
to reset it, so I was hoping there was a way to find it.

Thanks

scott

___
cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip

___
cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip


[cisco-voip] Application user password

2018-10-23 Thread Scott Voll
Any way to find out what an application user password is?  I really don't
what to reset it, so I was hoping there was a way to find it.

Thanks

scott
___
cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip