Re: Stus-List Sound exciter installation on a C&C 29 sailboat

[Ted Drossos via CnC-List]

Yes, the person who posted that video of the sound exciter installation on a 
C&C 29 is a lister. Me. I have to say that I was very skeptical when I 
originally started that project but figured that it was worth a shot. Cutting 
6" diameter holes in my cockpit had prevented me from adding speakers for many 
years. That YouTube video was taken with an iPad so the sound quality isn't a 
true representation of the great sound that these little sound exciters can 
produce. A typical speaker would also make nearby objects vibrate if they were 
loose and in close proximity. It's not an issue. This is a great solution to 
adding sound in the cockpit without having to cut holes. They stay dry and 
can't be accidentally damaged by a foot going through them. I've seen that 
happen all to often on other boats.


Ted Drossos
C&C 29-2
H2OT
Long Island, NY   
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on C&C 44

[Jonathan Boocock via CnC-List]

Thanks for all the input. I will summarize what I have found so far about
engine replacements.
Much to my surprise pricing for new Yanmar engines with similar hp (55 hp)
to the old engine pricing is better in Canada compared to the US.
With "boat show" pricing I have been quoted $14,900 US (list $18320) for a
4JH5E or 4JH57. Of course with Yanmar products they can't be shipped to
other regions so I would have to pick it up in the US and pay state tax,
followed by Canadian tax when it is brought into Canada. (total about 20%
:(   )
Canadian pricing is approx $14900 CAN, roughly 10% less given the exchange
rate and I wouldn't incur the US state tax.

As many recommend Beta as an alternative to Yanmar I started looking at
them as well. The 50 hp option is about $14,000 CAN before any options
(higher output alternator, longer wiring harness etc) and this is before
adding any of the items required to change engine mounts, exhaust etc. I
don't see the significant savings I was expecting based on others
experience.It sounds like maintainability (parts, access) are better than
Yanmar so savings aren't only $.

I am likely going to put in a remanufactured Yanmar  4JH3 which I have been
told should be a drop in fully replacement  with the same hp as my
turbocharged older model. It sounds like Schooner Bay have an excellent
reputation delivering fully remanufactured engines for less than half the
price of a new engine.

Thanks for everyones input. I will update the list as my project proceeds.
Jon

C&C 44
Mor' Childs Play
Kingston ON
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Re: Stus-List 2014 C & C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta)

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Rob Gallagher doesn't always sail on boats, but when he does, it's always "Dos 
C's". 


All the best,

Edd

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On Sep 9, 2014, at 8:03 PM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List 
 wrote:

What you don't see in the keg segment is Dave Risch lurking in the shadows with 
that "captain" mug of his, watching us do all the work...

I don't always bring a keg...sometimes I bring rum...and cigars...

Stay thirsty my friends.
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Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

[Rich Knowles via CnC-List]

When I key up my handheld in my home office, my paper shredder starts. 

Rich

> On Sep 9, 2014, at 21:02, D Harben via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
>  the handheld VHF on my PDF totally causes my tiller pilot to have a 
> meltdown, as well as the bulkhead compass 
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 9, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Keep in mind the interference that the magnets in speakers may place on your 
>> steering compass. I have noticed that my hand held VHF radio will cause the 
>> compass Honey's to swing when within about a foot of the compass
>> 
>> Jack Fitzgerald
>> C&C 39 TM
>> HONEY
>> US12788
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> I'm thinking of mounting the new speakers in the inspection port covers in 
>>> the transom.  I hate cutting holes in my boat!  I'll wait for the Defender 
>>> sale to shop for speakers, but I rarely sail with the stereo on, so I'm not 
>>> looking to spend big bucks.
>>> 
>>> Joel
>>> 
 On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 8 or 4 ohms will make very little difference in sonic performance. The 
 amps' outputs are much lower impedance so the speakers are in a bridging 
 configuration. 
 
 Rich
 
> On Sep 8, 2014, at 19:50, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> One thing to remember is that most boat audio systems are 4 ohms and it 
> is better to use speakers with same impedance ( 8 ohm will take too much 
> juice ). 
> Sometimes you only discover it after everything is installed :-)
> 
> Sylvain
> C&C27MkIII
> 
> From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
> Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 6:25 PM
> Subject: Stus-List Stereo finally works
> 
> After three years my stereo is fully functional.  I replaced the old 
> stereo with a Sony unit after I bought the boat.  One of the 2 interior 
> speakers worked and the 2 cheapo West cockpit speakers worked. 
> After spending way too much time, I finally figured out that the speaker 
> wire was to corroded to carry a signal.  Initially, I replaced most of 
> the wire with household wire.  DON"T USE HOUSEHOLD SPEAKER WIRE.  That 
> lasted about a season.  I finally replaced all of the wire with marine 
> grade wire.  Then I discovered that the rubber around the speaker cones 
> disintegrated. I bought 5 1/4 inch car speakers that fit into the 
> enclosures for the cabin speakers, and then found out the cockpit 
> speakers did't work.  Turns out someone twisted and taped the 
> connections.  New crimp connectors fixed them.  
> 
> Finally, 4 working speakers!
> Now, need to upgrade the cockpit speakers.  
> 
> Joel
> 35/3
> The Office
> Annapolis
> 
> 
> -- 
> Joel 
> 301 541 8551
> 
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Stus-List 2014 C & C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta)

[Robert Gallagher via CnC-List]

What you don't see in the keg segment is Dave Risch lurking in the shadows
with that "captain" mug of his, watching us do all the work...

I don't always bring a keg...sometimes I bring rum...and cigars...

Stay thirsty my friends.
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Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

[D Harben via CnC-List]

 the handheld VHF on my PDF totally causes my tiller pilot to have a 
meltdown, as well as the bulkhead compass 

Don



> On Sep 9, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Keep in mind the interference that the magnets in speakers may place on your 
> steering compass. I have noticed that my hand held VHF radio will cause the 
> compass Honey's to swing when within about a foot of the compass
> 
> Jack Fitzgerald
> C&C 39 TM
> HONEY
> US12788
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> I'm thinking of mounting the new speakers in the inspection port covers in 
>> the transom.  I hate cutting holes in my boat!  I'll wait for the Defender 
>> sale to shop for speakers, but I rarely sail with the stereo on, so I'm not 
>> looking to spend big bucks.
>> 
>> Joel
>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 8 or 4 ohms will make very little difference in sonic performance. The 
>>> amps' outputs are much lower impedance so the speakers are in a bridging 
>>> configuration. 
>>> 
>>> Rich
>>> 
 On Sep 8, 2014, at 19:50, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 
 
 One thing to remember is that most boat audio systems are 4 ohms and it is 
 better to use speakers with same impedance ( 8 ohm will take too much 
 juice ). 
 Sometimes you only discover it after everything is installed :-)
 
 Sylvain
 C&C27MkIII
 
 From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
 Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 6:25 PM
 Subject: Stus-List Stereo finally works
 
 After three years my stereo is fully functional.  I replaced the old 
 stereo with a Sony unit after I bought the boat.  One of the 2 interior 
 speakers worked and the 2 cheapo West cockpit speakers worked. 
 After spending way too much time, I finally figured out that the speaker 
 wire was to corroded to carry a signal.  Initially, I replaced most of the 
 wire with household wire.  DON"T USE HOUSEHOLD SPEAKER WIRE.  That lasted 
 about a season.  I finally replaced all of the wire with marine grade 
 wire.  Then I discovered that the rubber around the speaker cones 
 disintegrated. I bought 5 1/4 inch car speakers that fit into the 
 enclosures for the cabin speakers, and then found out the cockpit speakers 
 did't work.  Turns out someone twisted and taped the connections.  New 
 crimp connectors fixed them.  
 
 Finally, 4 working speakers!
 Now, need to upgrade the cockpit speakers.  
 
 Joel
 35/3
 The Office
 Annapolis
 
 
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 301 541 8551
 
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Re: Stus-List 2014 C & C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta)

[Charlie Normand via CnC-List]

I will stay thirsty my friend...

On Tuesday, September 9, 2014, David  wrote:

> Yes Rob Gallagher and his "crew" can hoist a keg without stops and not
> hourglass it.
>
> "He Is The Most Interesting Man" at The Rendezvous.
>
>
>
> David F. Risch
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
> --
> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 18:28:57 -0400
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 2014 C & C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta)
> From: cnorman...@gmail.com
> 
> To: dariavach_na...@yahoo.com
> 
> CC: davidrisc...@msn.com
> ;
> john.mat...@yale.edu
> ;
> davidakne...@gmail.com
> ;
> ds...@allstate.com ;
> ruelpend...@verizon.net
> ;
> jrtau...@aol.com ;
> efran...@mac.com ;
> law...@verizon.net ;
> e...@schillay.com ;
> trys...@gmail.com 
>
> Nice video,  I was particularly impressed with the teamwork and diligence
> unloading the keg.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Charlie
>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Nader Dariavach  > wrote:
>
> Good morning All,
> Here is a short video from the 2013 C & C Rendezvous:
> 2014 C & C NE Rendezvous
> http://youtu.be/pAAi-RZHOH4
>
> Regards,
> Nader
> 
> On Fri, 9/5/14, Maturo, John  > wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: Stus-List 2014 C & C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta)
>  To: "David"  >
>  Cc: "David Knecht"  >, "
> ds...@allstate.com " <
> ds...@allstate.com >,
> "Steve Ruel"  >, "
> dariavach_na...@yahoo.com
> " <
> dariavach_na...@yahoo.com
> >, "
> jrtau...@aol.com " <
> jrtau...@aol.com >, "
> efran...@mac.com " <
> efran...@mac.com >, "
> law...@verizon.net " <
> law...@verizon.net >,
> "Edd Schillay"  >, "Charlie Normand" <
> cnorman...@gmail.com
> >, "Robert
> Gallagher"  >
>  Date: Friday, September 5, 2014, 11:46 AM
>
>
>  Heidi and I would enjoy some company for a day sail on
>  Saturday. I am curious to see how other sailors find the
>  sailing qualities of this boat compared to her sisters. We
>  just put new teak decks and rod on her this past winter. We
>  will be in early in the
>   day on Friday because this is the last weekend of our fall
>  cruise.
>
>
>
>  John Maturo
>  203-494-6782
>
>  Baltic/C&C 39
>
>
>  On Sep 5, 2014, at 10:52, "David"  >
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
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>  Attendees,
>
>
>
>  I am now communicating only to those who have paid their
>  registration fees...
>
>
>
>  To answer David's questions below;
>
>
>
>  There is a launch into town for food and
>  restaurants.We will have dock parties Friday and
>  Saturday night.  Showers are not available at the
>  docks.  Andrew may  know of a place folks can
>  shower
>
>
>
>
>  Hope that helps.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  David F. Risch
>
>  (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  From: davidakne...@gmail.com
> 
>
>  Subject: Re: Stus-List 2014 C & C NE Rendezvous Update
>  (sorta)
>
>  Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 09:31:17 -0400
>
>  To: davidrisc...@msn.com
> 
>
>
>
>  Hi David- Thanks for all the work arranging the Newport
>  event.  I have sent in my dock form.  Do you know if there
>  are shower facilities?   I am wondering what you expect
>  food access to be. My recollection is that Ft. Adams has
>  nothing nearby, but I have never
>   explored the area much.  Should we plan for meals on
>  board, or do you think we will be going out somewhere local
>  for some meals?  Dave
>
>
>
>  On Sep 3, 2014, at 3:57 PM, David via CnC-List  >
>  wrote:
>
>
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>
>  Cant you guys trailer?
>
>
>
>  UPDATE!   Website now has dockage contact info and I sent
>  an email out with a reservation form attached that is now is
>  limbo as it may be too large for distribution.
>
>
>
>  David F. Risch
>
>  (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  To: e...@schillay.com ;
>
>  cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
>
>  Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 13:33:06 -0400
>
>  Subject: Re: Stus-List 2014 C & C NE Rendezvous Update
>  (sorta)
>
>  From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
>
>
>
>  I will be in the
>  same position as Edd.   I will not be able to come by boat
>  but intend to drive up with my wife and will attend dinner
>  and events.  Would love to daysail on someones boat who is
>  attending.   Jerry J&J
>   27MkV.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  -Original Message-
>
>  From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  >
>
>  To: David  >;
>  cnc-list  >
>
>  Sent: Wed, Sep 3, 2014 1:14 pm
>
>  Subject: Re: Stus-List 2014 C & C NE Rendezvous Update
>  (sorta)
>
>
>
>
>  David,
>
>
>
>  Sorry to report that work
>  scheduling is going to keep the Enterprise from attending
>  from Western Long Island Sound. My wife and I are, however,
>  planning to come up by car and stay in Newport
>   during the rendezvous.
>
>
>
>  We’ll

Re: Stus-List 2014 C & C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta)

[David via CnC-List]

Yes Rob Gallagher and his "crew" can hoist a keg without stops and not 
hourglass it.

"He Is The Most Interesting Man" at The Rendezvous.



David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 18:28:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List 2014 C & C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta)
From: cnorman...@gmail.com
To: dariavach_na...@yahoo.com
CC: davidrisc...@msn.com; john.mat...@yale.edu; davidakne...@gmail.com; 
ds...@allstate.com; ruelpend...@verizon.net; jrtau...@aol.com; 
efran...@mac.com; law...@verizon.net; e...@schillay.com; trys...@gmail.com

Nice video,  I was particularly impressed with the teamwork and diligence 
unloading the keg. Cheers, Charlie
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Nader Dariavach  
wrote:
Good morning All,

Here is a short video from the 2013 C & C Rendezvous:

2014 C & C NE Rendezvous

http://youtu.be/pAAi-RZHOH4



Regards,

Nader



On Fri, 9/5/14, Maturo, John  wrote:



 Subject: Re: Stus-List 2014 C & C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta)

 To: "David" 

 Cc: "David Knecht" , "ds...@allstate.com" 
, "Steve Ruel" , 
"dariavach_na...@yahoo.com" , "jrtau...@aol.com" 
, "efran...@mac.com" , "law...@verizon.net" 
, "Edd Schillay" , "Charlie Normand" 
, "Robert Gallagher" 

 Date: Friday, September 5, 2014, 11:46 AM





 Heidi and I would enjoy some company for a day sail on

 Saturday. I am curious to see how other sailors find the

 sailing qualities of this boat compared to her sisters. We

 just put new teak decks and rod on her this past winter. We

 will be in early in the

  day on Friday because this is the last weekend of our fall

 cruise. 







 John Maturo

 203-494-6782



 Baltic/C&C 39





 On Sep 5, 2014, at 10:52, "David" 

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 I am now communicating only to those who have paid their

 registration fees...







 To answer David's questions below;







 There is a launch into town for food and

 restaurants.We will have dock parties Friday and

 Saturday night.  Showers are not available at the

 docks.  Andrew may  know of a place folks can

 shower









 Hope that helps.











   







 David F. Risch



 (401) 419-4650 (cell)















 From: davidakne...@gmail.com



 Subject: Re: Stus-List 2014 C & C NE Rendezvous Update

 (sorta)



 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 09:31:17 -0400



 To: davidrisc...@msn.com







 Hi David- Thanks for all the work arranging the Newport

 event.  I have sent in my dock form.  Do you know if there

 are shower facilities?   I am wondering what you expect

 food access to be. My recollection is that Ft. Adams has

 nothing nearby, but I have never

  explored the area much.  Should we plan for meals on

 board, or do you think we will be going out somewhere local

 for some meals?  Dave







 On Sep 3, 2014, at 3:57 PM, David via CnC-List 

 wrote:





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 Cant you guys trailer?







 UPDATE!   Website now has dockage contact info and I sent

 an email out with a reservation form attached that is now is

 limbo as it may be too large for distribution.







 David F. Risch



 (401) 419-4650 (cell)















 To: e...@schillay.com;



 cnc-list@cnc-list.com



 Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 13:33:06 -0400



 Subject: Re: Stus-List 2014 C & C NE Rendezvous Update

 (sorta)



 From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com







 I will be in the

 same position as Edd.   I will not be able to come by boat

 but intend to drive up with my wife and will attend dinner

 and events.  Would love to daysail on someones boat who is

 attending.   Jerry J&J

  27MkV.



















 -Original Message-



 From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 



 To: David ;

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 Sent: Wed, Sep 3, 2014 1:14 pm



 Subject: Re: Stus-List 2014 C & C NE Rendezvous Update

 (sorta)









 David,







 Sorry to report that work

 scheduling is going to keep the Enterprise from attending

 from Western Long Island Sound. My wife and I are, however,

 planning to come up by car and stay in Newport

  during the rendezvous. 







 We’ll see you on the dock

 (assuming you guys actually get a dock). 













 All the best,







 Edd













 Edd M. Schillay

 Starship Enterprise

 C&C 37+ | Sail No:

 NCC-1701-B

 City Island, NY 







 Starship

 Enterprise's Captain's Log









 On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:49 PM, David via CnC-List 

 wrote:









 To all attendees and wanna be attendees...







 We are still waiting for contracts etc from The Alofsin

 Docks.  We hope to have something before we get there but I

Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

I had two 12" squares of Sunbrella made up to use as sun covers for the
cockpit speakers.  They keep them clean and mostly dry when not in use.  I
think they will last longer this way.  

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

"Midnight Mistress"

C&C 35 Mk-III

Hampton VA

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:03 AM
To: 'Joel Aronson'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

 

Joel

 

I cut holes to put so-called weatherproof cockpit speakers on Alianna, wish
I had not done that.  We hardly ever used them and now one has a bad crackle
noise already.I suggest spending that extra money on better cabin speakers.
I just disconnected my cockpit speakers so now they look like air vents

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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Re: Stus-List Antigua

[Sam Salter via CnC-List]

Yeah, Nelson's dockyard is a great idea Fred.Especially as I was a Brit before I became civilized I've never sailed a Dufour, so 2nd best is OK too. I've chartered C&C 115's out of Sidney, Vancouver Island before, but I've never seen a C&C for charter anywhere else.   sam :-) From: Frederick G StreetSent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 3:25 PMTo: Sam Salter; cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List AntiguaCouldn’t get a C&C, huh?   :^)I’d definitely plan a visit to Nelson’s Dockyard, just for the history.
Fred Street -- MinneapolisS/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Sep 9, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List  wrote:Just booked a 42 ft Dufour for end January.Might even have 2 or possibly 3 boats before we go if wives give the green light.All guys; sailing; drinking; lots of experience.So what not to miss?

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Re: Stus-List Antigua

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Couldn’t get a C&C, huh?   :^)

I’d definitely plan a visit to Nelson’s Dockyard, just for the history.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Sep 9, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List  
wrote:

> Just booked a 42 ft Dufour for end January.
> Might even have 2 or possibly 3 boats before we go if wives give the green 
> light.
> All guys; sailing; drinking; lots of experience.
> 
> So what not to miss?

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Re: Stus-List Sound exciter installation on a C&C 29 sailboat

[Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List]

  
  

  I had seen the same video - I'm going with the same exciters when
  I put in my own stereo this year.
  I'm not that concerned about getting perfect sound quality - so
  I'm also thinking I'll put the same exciters in the cabin.
  I'll remember to use marine wire!
  
  Mark
  -

There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
  - George Santayana
  On 09/09/2014 3:53 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List wrote:


  
This is what I was refering
to earlier:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtyRW3KCbxQ
  
  Perhaps the guy is even a
lister?   
  
  As far as you can tell from a
phoen type recording it seems to sounds pretty good, since
fiberglass is stiff the highs and mids come through pretty
clearly.  The bass sounds a bit lacking but being in the
open air and with the embient noise bass gets lost anyway.
 If you really want bass you can always stick a Bazooka tube
in the lazarette then you'll be booming down the waterway
like a "Proud 'N Loud" wakeboarder.. 
  
   Perhaps the guy complaining
about quality did not have it wired correctly.  The brand
they sell is pretty well known.  There are other brands too.
  
  
  I'm definitely doing it when
I get down to that point in the priority list.
  
  Best Regards, 
  
  -Francois
  1990 34+ "Take Five"
  Lake Lanier, Georgia
  
  
  
  
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Re: Stus-List Antigua

[David via CnC-List]

so...your inviting us all right?

What a generous guy!

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:28:25 -0600
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Antigua
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> Just booked a 42 ft Dufour for end January.
> Might even have 2 or possibly 3 boats before we go if wives give the green 
> light.
> All guys; sailing; drinking; lots of experience.
> 
> So what not to miss?
> 
> sam :-)
> 
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Stus-List Antigua

[Sam Salter via CnC-List]

Just booked a 42 ft Dufour for end January.
Might even have 2 or possibly 3 boats before we go if wives give the green 
light.
All guys; sailing; drinking; lots of experience.

So what not to miss?

sam :-)


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Stus-List Sound exciter installation on a C&C 29 sailboat

[Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List]

 This is what I was refering to earlier:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtyRW3KCbxQ

 Perhaps the guy is even a lister?

 As far as you can tell from a phoen type recording it seems to sounds
 pretty good, since fiberglass is stiff the highs and mids come through
 pretty clearly.  The bass sounds a bit lacking but being in the open air
 and with the embient noise bass gets lost anyway.  If you really want bass
 you can always stick a Bazooka tube in the lazarette then you'll be
 booming down the waterway like a "Proud 'N Loud" wakeboarder..

  Perhaps the guy complaining about quality did not have it wired
 correctly.  The brand they sell is pretty well known.  There are other
 brands too.

 I'm definitely doing it when I get down to that point in the priority
 list.

 Best Regards,

 -Francois
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on C&C 44

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Me three on the Kubota engines. 

I replaced my Perkins with a Nanni, which is a French version of the Beta.
The I liked the exhaust elbow and intake silencer on the Nanni, but also
liked the serpentine belt on the Beta. As it turns out, the crappy
alternator on the Nanne, (something from Slovakia or somewhere) cracked and
I replaced it with some Balmer stuff which was pricy, but worth it, if
nothing else but for their service dept.

 

Boat shows coming up, you can finagle a deal with one of them and bring it
home in your trunk. ;-)

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 1:08 PM
To: CNC CNC
Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on C&C 44

 

I re-powered my prior boat with a Beta too.  Great maintenance
configuration.

Loved the engine.

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)



  _  

To: jonbooc...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 17:04:36 +
Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on C&C 44
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Jonathan,

 

When we replaced Perceptions Engine, we bought a Beta engine - imported it
from England - saved over the Yanmar, and can now use Kubota parts! 

 

It was Yanmars Canadian pricing that caused us to look at other options -
the parts to rebuild were 2/3rds of the price of the beta - without touching
the transmission, starting system, alternator, cooling system ..

 

Paul Fountain

.

 

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Boocock via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 9:04 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on C&C 44

 

The Yanmar 4JH-TE on our C&C 44 went bang on the weekend. It was the last
thing on the boat that hadn't been replaced so in some ways it is a relief
to replace it. It is unclear whether we will go new or remanufactured at
this point.

I have been appalled in the past at Canadian pricing on Yanmar parts and I
suspect complete engines would be the same. Nonetheless I will probably get
a quote from a Canadian dealer.

Who in the US would be recommended to get a quote from? We were happy with
Bay Shore Marine on our way through Annapolis, does anyone have experience
buying a complete engine from them?

Is there compatibility with engine mounts , exhaust etc between the various
Yanmar models?

(4JH, 4JH2, 4JH3, 4JH4, 4JH5)

If so this could open up the number of potential replacements.

For remanufactured Schooner Bay Imports (Al Holzer) in WI seems to be highly
recommended.

Our current model is 56 hp but I think anything above 46 hp would be
sufficient so the non turbocharged versions would work fine and of course
the more recent non turbo versions have the same or higher horsepower.

Any guidance on who to contact based on your experience would be
appreciated.

Thanks, Jon

 

C&C 44 - (right now a big, heavy dinghy)

Mor' Childs Play 

Kingston ON

 


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Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

This one maybe?
http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-daex32ut-4-ultra-tripod-32mm-40w-4-ohm--295-234

Better reviews.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron Kaye via 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:29 AM
To: Jean-Francois J Rivard; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

Sounds like a fine solution.  1/1 review said the transducers are not reliable 
and gave a negative review. 2/7 worked for him.

I would think the quality of the sound would be greatly influenced by the 
material it is mounted in. Fiberglass works well as a speaker cone?  I wonder 
what the high end would be like.  Bass would probably do well. And if anything 
else was mounted loosely it would add a bit of extra percussion at resonating 
frequencies.
Seriously though this is an intriguing alternative.  I'd like to hear how it 
goes.

Ron

On Sep 9, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

This is what I'm planning on doing for cockpit speakers:  
http://www.parts-express.com/tectonic-elements-teax32c30-4-b-32mm-balanced-exciter-4-ohms--297-224

No cutting fiberglass, no disintegrating cones.  No waterproofing issues It 
drives the surface it's mounted on as a cone.   Look it up in Youtube there's a 
guy whom installed them in his cockpit and it seems to work really well.


Regards
Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, Georgia
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Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I have PolyPlanar speakers in Touche's cockpit.  10+ years and still going
strong.  I hit them with ArmorAll every spring for UV protection.

Dennis C
On Sep 9, 2014 6:18 AM, "Gary Nylander via CnC-List" 
wrote:

>   I did the same - two different set of 'marine' speakers lasted about a
> year each before they disintegrated. Now, I have some neat starboard covers
> for where they used to be - the inside ones are OK. I guess I never really
> wanted outside noise.
>
> Gary
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* dwight via CnC-List 
> *To:* 'Joel Aronson'  ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:03 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works
>
>  Joel
>
>
>
> I cut holes to put so-called weatherproof cockpit speakers on Alianna,
> wish I had not done that.  We hardly ever used them and now one has a bad
> crackle noise already…I suggest spending that extra money on better cabin
> speakers… I just disconnected my cockpit speakers so now they look like air
> vents
>
>
>
> Dwight Veinot
>
> C&C 35MKII, Alianna
>
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel
> Aronson via CnC-List
> *Sent:* September 9, 2014 9:55 AM
> *To:* Rich Knowles; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works
>
>
>
> I'm thinking of mounting the new speakers in the inspection port covers in
> the transom.  I hate cutting holes in my boat!  I'll wait for the Defender
> sale to shop for speakers, but I rarely sail with the stereo on, so I'm not
> looking to spend big bucks.
>
>
>
> Joel
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 8 or 4 ohms will make very little difference in sonic performance. The
> amps' outputs are much lower impedance so the speakers are in a bridging
> configuration.
>
> Rich
>
>
> On Sep 8, 2014, at 19:50, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> One thing to remember is that most boat audio systems are 4 ohms and it is
> better to use speakers with same impedance ( 8 ohm will take too much juice
> ).
>
> Sometimes you only discover it after everything is installed :-)
>
>
>
> Sylvain
>
> C&C27MkIII
>
>
>   --
>
> *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> *To:* "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 8, 2014 6:25 PM
> *Subject:* Stus-List Stereo finally works
>
>
>
> After three years my stereo is fully functional.  I replaced the old
> stereo with a Sony unit after I bought the boat.  One of the 2 interior
> speakers worked and the 2 cheapo West cockpit speakers worked.
>
> After spending way too much time, I finally figured out that the speaker
> wire was to corroded to carry a signal.  Initially, I replaced most of the
> wire with household wire.  DON"T USE HOUSEHOLD SPEAKER WIRE.  That lasted
> about a season.  I finally replaced all of the wire with marine grade wire.
>  Then I discovered that the rubber around the speaker cones disintegrated.
> I bought 5 1/4 inch car speakers that fit into the enclosures for the cabin
> speakers, and then found out the cockpit speakers did't work.  Turns out
> someone twisted and taped the connections.  New crimp connectors fixed
> them.
>
>
>
> Finally, 4 working speakers!
>
> Now, need to upgrade the cockpit speakers.
>
>
>
> Joel
>
> 35/3
>
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>
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>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

[Ron Kaye via CnC-List]

Sounds like a fine solution.  1/1 review said the transducers are not reliable 
and gave a negative review. 2/7 worked for him. 

I would think the quality of the sound would be greatly influenced by the 
material it is mounted in. Fiberglass works well as a speaker cone?  I wonder 
what the high end would be like.  Bass would probably do well. And if anything 
else was mounted loosely it would add a bit of extra percussion at resonating 
frequencies. 
Seriously though this is an intriguing alternative.  I'd like to hear how it 
goes.  

Ron

> On Sep 9, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is what I'm planning on doing for cockpit speakers:  
> http://www.parts-express.com/tectonic-elements-teax32c30-4-b-32mm-balanced-exciter-4-ohms--297-224
> 
> No cutting fiberglass, no disintegrating cones.  No waterproofing issues It 
> drives the surface it's mounted on as a cone.   Look it up in Youtube there's 
> a guy whom installed them in his cockpit and it seems to work really well. 
> 
> 
> Regards
> Francois Rivard
> 1990 34+ "Take Five"
> Lake Lanier, Georgia
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Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

[RPH via CnC-List]

May I suggest an alternative? I replaced the stereo in the cabin with a new 
Bluetooth-capable head unit from West Marine. On those rare occasions when I 
desire music in the cockpit, I use an Eton Rugged Rukus Solar Powered Wireless 
Sound System: 
http://www.mec.ca/product/5033-782/eton-rugged-rukus-solar-powered-wireless-sound-system

I use my phone or my tablet as my music player / remote control. 

As an added benefit, this system gives me a Bluetooth speaker phone in the 
cabin for making or receiving cell phone calls. Also - no holes! 

Robert H. 


 Original message 
From: Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List  
Date: 09-09-2014  7:04 AM  (GMT-08:00) 
To: Joel Aronson , C&CList  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works 

Keep in mind the interference that the magnets in speakers may place on your 
steering compass. I have noticed that my hand held VHF radio will cause the 
compass Honey's to swing when within about a foot of the compass

Jack Fitzgerald
C&C 39 TM
HONEY
US12788




On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
 wrote:
I'm thinking of mounting the new speakers in the inspection port covers in the 
transom.  I hate cutting holes in my boat!  I'll wait for the Defender sale to 
shop for speakers, but I rarely sail with the stereo on, so I'm not looking to 
spend big bucks.

Joel

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List 
 wrote:
8 or 4 ohms will make very little difference in sonic performance. The amps' 
outputs are much lower impedance so the speakers are in a bridging 
configuration. 

Rich

On Sep 8, 2014, at 19:50, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List  
wrote:


One thing to remember is that most boat audio systems are 4 ohms and it is 
better to use speakers with same impedance ( 8 ohm will take too much juice ). 
Sometimes you only discover it after everything is installed :-)

Sylvain
C&C27MkIII

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 6:25 PM
Subject: Stus-List Stereo finally works

After three years my stereo is fully functional.  I replaced the old stereo 
with a Sony unit after I bought the boat.  One of the 2 interior speakers 
worked and the 2 cheapo West cockpit speakers worked. 
After spending way too much time, I finally figured out that the speaker wire 
was to corroded to carry a signal.  Initially, I replaced most of the wire with 
household wire.  DON"T USE HOUSEHOLD SPEAKER WIRE.  That lasted about a season. 
 I finally replaced all of the wire with marine grade wire.  Then I discovered 
that the rubber around the speaker cones disintegrated. I bought 5 1/4 inch car 
speakers that fit into the enclosures for the cabin speakers, and then found 
out the cockpit speakers did't work.  Turns out someone twisted and taped the 
connections.  New crimp connectors fixed them.  

Finally, 4 working speakers!
Now, need to upgrade the cockpit speakers.  

Joel
35/3
The Office
Annapolis


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Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

All,

I have a “car” stereo on board the Enterprise, which worked fine with 
speakers inside and out, but now I’m removing it — so before you go running 
wires and drilling big holes, I suggest you consider this: A portable bluetooth 
speaker. 

We all have our iPhones, iPads Galaxy’s and Droids all loaded with 
Internet radio and your own playlists of practically every song you’ve ever 
heard in your entire life. Most can be charged via USB and you can put them 
wherever you want them and some have controls to pause, skip or replay songs 
right on the speaker, so you can leave your phone or tablet down below where it 
won’t get wet or fall overboard. I have one that even lets me interact with 
Siri, so I can, while my phone sits in the chart table below, push a button and 
say “Play songs by Train” and after a second, Siri responds with “Here’s your 
Train”, followed by Hey Soul Sister, Drive-By, Angel in Blue Jeans, etc. Sweet. 

I’ve seen some which are completely waterproof and even let you receive 
calls. 

The sound quality is great, there’s no drain on your boat’s batteries, 
and there’s no annoying DJs or commercials (I used to be a DJ). Plus there’s no 
big magnets interfering with compasses and no cursing that there’s music in the 
cockpit while you’re lounging on the foredeck. 

Have a bunch of CDs? Rip them into digital files and store them on your 
computer/device. The first CDs made are starting to fail now. Get your music 
off of them and get rid of them. One rainy day and you can do a ton. I have so 
much music digitized that I could play my iPhone for three days straight and 
never hear the same song twice. Most radio stations can’t go four hours without 
playing the same song twice. 

Better listening experience, no wires, no holes, no battery drain, and 
no magnetic interference. 



All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
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On Sep 9, 2014, at 9:58 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List 
 wrote:

> Joel, we used the inspection ports for speakers on my 33-II, even though they 
> were not equally spaced apart; in the cockpit you never get tru stereo 
> anyway...it worked great; I am not  a big fan of putting extra holes in the 
> boat either!
>  
> Richard
> 1985 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584;
> 
> Richard N. Bush 
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
> 502-584-7255
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> To: Rich Knowles ; cnc-list 
> Sent: Tue, Sep 9, 2014 8:55 am
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works
> 
> I'm thinking of mounting the new speakers in the inspection port covers in 
> the transom.  I hate cutting holes in my boat!  I'll wait for the Defender 
> sale to shop for speakers, but I rarely sail with the stereo on, so I'm not 
> looking to spend big bucks.
> 
> Joel
> 
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 8 or 4 ohms will make very little difference in sonic performance. The amps' 
> outputs are much lower impedance so the speakers are in a bridging 
> configuration. 
> 
> Rich
> 
> On Sep 8, 2014, at 19:50, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> One thing to remember is that most boat audio systems are 4 ohms and it is 
>> better to use speakers with same impedance ( 8 ohm will take too much juice 
>> ). 
>> Sometimes you only discover it after everything is installed :-)
>> 
>> Sylvain
>> C&C27MkIII
>> 
>> From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
>> Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 6:25 PM
>> Subject: Stus-List Stereo finally works
>> 
>> After three years my stereo is fully functional.  I replaced the old stereo 
>> with a Sony unit after I bought the boat.  One of the 2 interior speakers 
>> worked and the 2 cheapo West cockpit speakers worked. 
>> After spending way too much time, I finally figured out that the speaker 
>> wire was to corroded to carry a signal.  Initially, I replaced most of the 
>> wire with household wire.  DON"T USE HOUSEHOLD SPEAKER WIRE.  That lasted 
>> about a season.  I finally replaced all of the wire with marine grade wire.  
>> Then I discovered that the rubber around the speaker cones disintegrated. I 
>> bought 5 1/4 inch car speakers that fit into the enclosures for the cabin 
>> speakers, and then found out the cockpit speakers did't work.  Turns out 
>> someone twisted and taped the connections.  New crimp connectors fixed them. 
>>  
>> 
>> Finally, 4 working speakers!
>> Now, need to upgrade the cockpit speakers.  
>> 
>> Joel
>> 35/3
>> The Office
>> Annapolis
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

[Tim Goodyear via CnC-List]

Joel, that's where I put my cockpit speakers.  The inspection port holes
were ever so slightly bigger than needed for the speakers, but we made it
work.  We installed Alpine boat speakers (6.5" SPS-M600, I think
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-veRQ4gwHTdV/p_500SPSM600/Alpine-SPS-M600.html)
and they are working fine and sounding good after four years.

Tim
C&C 35-3 Mojito
Branford, CT

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I'm thinking of mounting the new speakers in the inspection port covers in
> the transom.  I hate cutting holes in my boat!  I'll wait for the Defender
> sale to shop for speakers, but I rarely sail with the stereo on, so I'm not
> looking to spend big bucks.
>
> Joel
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> 8 or 4 ohms will make very little difference in sonic performance. The
>> amps' outputs are much lower impedance so the speakers are in a bridging
>> configuration.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2014, at 19:50, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> One thing to remember is that most boat audio systems are 4 ohms and it
>> is better to use speakers with same impedance ( 8 ohm will take too much
>> juice ).
>> Sometimes you only discover it after everything is installed :-)
>>
>> Sylvain
>> C&C27MkIII
>>
>>   --
>>  *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>> *To:* "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 8, 2014 6:25 PM
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Stereo finally works
>>
>> After three years my stereo is fully functional.  I replaced the old
>> stereo with a Sony unit after I bought the boat.  One of the 2 interior
>> speakers worked and the 2 cheapo West cockpit speakers worked.
>> After spending way too much time, I finally figured out that the speaker
>> wire was to corroded to carry a signal.  Initially, I replaced most of the
>> wire with household wire.  DON"T USE HOUSEHOLD SPEAKER WIRE.  That lasted
>> about a season.  I finally replaced all of the wire with marine grade wire.
>>  Then I discovered that the rubber around the speaker cones disintegrated.
>> I bought 5 1/4 inch car speakers that fit into the enclosures for the cabin
>> speakers, and then found out the cockpit speakers did't work.  Turns out
>> someone twisted and taped the connections.  New crimp connectors fixed
>> them.
>>
>> Finally, 4 working speakers!
>> Now, need to upgrade the cockpit speakers.
>>
>> Joel
>> 35/3
>> The Office
>> Annapolis
>>
>>
>> --
>> Joel
>> 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

[Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List]

Keep in mind the interference that the magnets in speakers may place on
your steering compass. I have noticed that my hand held VHF radio will
cause the compass Honey's to swing when within about a foot of the compass

Jack Fitzgerald
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HONEY
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On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I'm thinking of mounting the new speakers in the inspection port covers in
> the transom.  I hate cutting holes in my boat!  I'll wait for the Defender
> sale to shop for speakers, but I rarely sail with the stereo on, so I'm not
> looking to spend big bucks.
>
> Joel
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> 8 or 4 ohms will make very little difference in sonic performance. The
>> amps' outputs are much lower impedance so the speakers are in a bridging
>> configuration.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2014, at 19:50, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> One thing to remember is that most boat audio systems are 4 ohms and it
>> is better to use speakers with same impedance ( 8 ohm will take too much
>> juice ).
>> Sometimes you only discover it after everything is installed :-)
>>
>> Sylvain
>> C&C27MkIII
>>
>>   --
>>  *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>> *To:* "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 8, 2014 6:25 PM
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Stereo finally works
>>
>> After three years my stereo is fully functional.  I replaced the old
>> stereo with a Sony unit after I bought the boat.  One of the 2 interior
>> speakers worked and the 2 cheapo West cockpit speakers worked.
>> After spending way too much time, I finally figured out that the speaker
>> wire was to corroded to carry a signal.  Initially, I replaced most of the
>> wire with household wire.  DON"T USE HOUSEHOLD SPEAKER WIRE.  That lasted
>> about a season.  I finally replaced all of the wire with marine grade wire.
>>  Then I discovered that the rubber around the speaker cones disintegrated.
>> I bought 5 1/4 inch car speakers that fit into the enclosures for the cabin
>> speakers, and then found out the cockpit speakers did't work.  Turns out
>> someone twisted and taped the connections.  New crimp connectors fixed
>> them.
>>
>> Finally, 4 working speakers!
>> Now, need to upgrade the cockpit speakers.
>>
>> Joel
>> 35/3
>> The Office
>> Annapolis
>>
>>
>> --
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>> 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

[Richard N. Bush via CnC-List]

Joel, we used the inspection ports for speakers on my 33-II, even though they 
were not equally spaced apart; in the cockpit you never get tru stereo 
anyway...it worked great; I am not  a big fan of putting extra holes in the 
boat either!
 

Richard
1985 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584;

Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 
 
-Original Message-
From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
To: Rich Knowles ; cnc-list 
Sent: Tue, Sep 9, 2014 8:55 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works


I'm thinking of mounting the new speakers in the inspection port covers in the 
transom.  I hate cutting holes in my boat!  I'll wait for the Defender sale to 
shop for speakers, but I rarely sail with the stereo on, so I'm not looking to 
spend big bucks.


Joel



On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List 
 wrote:


8 or 4 ohms will make very little difference in sonic performance. The amps' 
outputs are much lower impedance so the speakers are in a bridging 
configuration. 

Rich


On Sep 8, 2014, at 19:50, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List  
wrote:






One thing to remember is that most boat audio systems are 4 ohms and it is 
better to use speakers with same impedance ( 8 ohm will take too much juice ). 
Sometimes you only discover it after everything is installed :-)


Sylvain
C&C27MkIII


  
 
 
 
   From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
 Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 6:25 PM
 Subject: Stus-List Stereo finally works
  
 


After three years my stereo is fully functional.  I replaced the old stereo 
with a Sony unit after I bought the boat.  One of the 2 interior speakers 
worked and the 2 cheapo West cockpit speakers worked. 
After spending way too much time, I finally figured out that the speaker wire 
was to corroded to carry a signal.  Initially, I replaced most of the wire with 
household wire.  DON"T USE HOUSEHOLD SPEAKER WIRE.  That lasted about a season. 
 I finally replaced all of the wire with marine grade wire.  Then I discovered 
that the rubber around the speaker cones disintegrated. I bought 5 1/4 inch car 
speakers that fit into the enclosures for the cabin speakers, and then found 
out the cockpit speakers did't work.  Turns out someone twisted and taped the 
connections.  New crimp connectors fixed them.  


Finally, 4 working speakers!
Now, need to upgrade the cockpit speakers.  


Joel
35/3
The Office
Annapolis


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Stus-List Stereo finally works

[Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List]

This is what I'm planning on doing for cockpit speakers:
http://www.parts-express.com/tectonic-elements-teax32c30-4-b-32mm-balanced-exciter-4-ohms--297-224

No cutting fiberglass, no disintegrating cones.  No waterproofing issues It
drives the surface it's mounted on as a cone.   Look it up in Youtube
there's a guy whom installed them in his cockpit and it seems to work
really well.


Regards

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Stus-List Land Yachting near Midland, Ontario

[Stu via CnC-List]

Later this month (Sept 26-29), we will be land yachting for a couple of days 
near Midland and Penetanguishine.  Maybe drop anchor near Discovery Harbour for 
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Anybody in the area that is interested in meeting for a brew or two, drop me a 
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Some time ago, the Photo Album Forum was hacked and totally destroyed.  I 
thought at the time, I removed all the links on our main page, but I guess I 
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Traffic and submissions on the old Forum were minimal and it did not appear to 
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Re: Stus-List Companionway hood

[Martin Kane via CnC-List]

Holland Marine Products in Mississauga Ontario stock rolls of 1/16 and 1/8 
butyl tape. The store owner can be difficult but is the only source for 1/16 
tape near Toronto that I've found.

Martin 
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Mimico Cruisng Club



-Original Message-
From: D Harben [mailto:sailadventu...@rogers.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:49 PM
To: Marek Dziedzic; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Companionway hood

Hi
I am interested in at least one roll, perhaps 3, if long term storage is not a 
problem.

Don
Oakville 

> On Sep 8, 2014, at 10:47 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you are looking for the source, here they are. I bought mine from 
> Compass Marine. It seems that the other one can sell smaller quantities.
> 
> There is a downside to it: if you want it shipped to Canada, the cost 
> is about the same as the tape (around $30). It is worth its while to 
> order more (cost of shipping is the same) and share.
> 
> Btw. I can share one roll at cost (and it is already on the Canadian 
> side of the border).
> 
> Btw2. No association with either of them, but supposedly this is the 
> best butyl tape around.
> 
> Bed-It Tape - Compass Marine 
> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape
> 
> Bed-It Tape - Hamilton Marine
> http://store.hamiltonmarine.com/browse.cfm/butyl-tape-bed-it-1-2-x-50-
> roll-7
> 55207-/4,59595.html
> 
> Marek
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 7:55 PM
> To: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Companionway hood
> 
> Mike,
> 
> I used butyl tape when I replaced my companionway hatch.  It is 
> foolproof stuff to work with and seals great.
> 
> Jake
> 
> Jake Brodersen
> “Midnight Mistress”
> C&C 35 Mk-III
> Hampton VA
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:41 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Companionway hood
> 
> 
> A couple of the screws are loose on my companionway hood, so I am 
> planning on removing it and giving it a good cleaning (and cleaning 
> the gunk underneath it).
> 
> What type of sealant should i put into the screwholes when I put it back on?
> 4200? Silicon?  Any advice would be appreciated.
> 
> There seemed to be quite the debate a few years ago about whether to 
> seal the entire underside or not.  Mine only appears to have sealant 
> around the screws and i don't have any leaks (at least not around the 
> companionway!) , so I'll probably stick with that method.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike
> Atacama C&C 33 Mk II
> Toronto
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Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

I did the same - two different set of 'marine' speakers lasted about a year 
each before they disintegrated. Now, I have some neat starboard covers for 
where they used to be - the inside ones are OK. I guess I never really wanted 
outside noise.

Gary
  - Original Message - 
  From: dwight via CnC-List 
  To: 'Joel Aronson' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:03 AM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works


  Joel

   

  I cut holes to put so-called weatherproof cockpit speakers on Alianna, wish I 
had not done that.  We hardly ever used them and now one has a bad crackle 
noise already.I suggest spending that extra money on better cabin speakers. I 
just disconnected my cockpit speakers so now they look like air vents

   

  Dwight Veinot

  C&C 35MKII, Alianna

  Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

   


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  Sent: September 9, 2014 9:55 AM
  To: Rich Knowles; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

   

  I'm thinking of mounting the new speakers in the inspection port covers in 
the transom.  I hate cutting holes in my boat!  I'll wait for the Defender sale 
to shop for speakers, but I rarely sail with the stereo on, so I'm not looking 
to spend big bucks.

   

  Joel

   

  On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  8 or 4 ohms will make very little difference in sonic performance. The amps' 
outputs are much lower impedance so the speakers are in a bridging 
configuration. 

  Rich


  On Sep 8, 2014, at 19:50, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List 
 wrote:

 

One thing to remember is that most boat audio systems are 4 ohms and it is 
better to use speakers with same impedance ( 8 ohm will take too much juice ). 

Sometimes you only discover it after everything is installed :-)

 

Sylvain

C&C27MkIII

 




From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 6:25 PM
Subject: Stus-List Stereo finally works

 

After three years my stereo is fully functional.  I replaced the old stereo 
with a Sony unit after I bought the boat.  One of the 2 interior speakers 
worked and the 2 cheapo West cockpit speakers worked. 

After spending way too much time, I finally figured out that the speaker 
wire was to corroded to carry a signal.  Initially, I replaced most of the wire 
with household wire.  DON"T USE HOUSEHOLD SPEAKER WIRE.  That lasted about a 
season.  I finally replaced all of the wire with marine grade wire.  Then I 
discovered that the rubber around the speaker cones disintegrated. I bought 5 
1/4 inch car speakers that fit into the enclosures for the cabin speakers, and 
then found out the cockpit speakers did't work.  Turns out someone twisted and 
taped the connections.  New crimp connectors fixed them.  

 

Finally, 4 working speakers!

Now, need to upgrade the cockpit speakers.  

 

Joel

35/3

The Office

Annapolis



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Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

[dwight via CnC-List]

Joel

 

I cut holes to put so-called weatherproof cockpit speakers on Alianna, wish
I had not done that.  We hardly ever used them and now one has a bad crackle
noise already.I suggest spending that extra money on better cabin speakers.
I just disconnected my cockpit speakers so now they look like air vents

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel
Aronson via CnC-List
Sent: September 9, 2014 9:55 AM
To: Rich Knowles; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

 

I'm thinking of mounting the new speakers in the inspection port covers in
the transom.  I hate cutting holes in my boat!  I'll wait for the Defender
sale to shop for speakers, but I rarely sail with the stereo on, so I'm not
looking to spend big bucks.

 

Joel

 

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List
 wrote:

8 or 4 ohms will make very little difference in sonic performance. The amps'
outputs are much lower impedance so the speakers are in a bridging
configuration. 

Rich


On Sep 8, 2014, at 19:50, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List
 wrote:

 

One thing to remember is that most boat audio systems are 4 ohms and it is
better to use speakers with same impedance ( 8 ohm will take too much juice
). 

Sometimes you only discover it after everything is installed :-)

 

Sylvain

C&C27MkIII

 


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From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 6:25 PM
Subject: Stus-List Stereo finally works

 

After three years my stereo is fully functional.  I replaced the old stereo
with a Sony unit after I bought the boat.  One of the 2 interior speakers
worked and the 2 cheapo West cockpit speakers worked. 

After spending way too much time, I finally figured out that the speaker
wire was to corroded to carry a signal.  Initially, I replaced most of the
wire with household wire.  DON"T USE HOUSEHOLD SPEAKER WIRE.  That lasted
about a season.  I finally replaced all of the wire with marine grade wire.
Then I discovered that the rubber around the speaker cones disintegrated. I
bought 5 1/4 inch car speakers that fit into the enclosures for the cabin
speakers, and then found out the cockpit speakers did't work.  Turns out
someone twisted and taped the connections.  New crimp connectors fixed them.


 

Finally, 4 working speakers!

Now, need to upgrade the cockpit speakers.  

 

Joel

35/3

The Office

Annapolis



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Re: Stus-List Stereo finally works

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

I'm thinking of mounting the new speakers in the inspection port covers in
the transom.  I hate cutting holes in my boat!  I'll wait for the Defender
sale to shop for speakers, but I rarely sail with the stereo on, so I'm not
looking to spend big bucks.

Joel

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> 8 or 4 ohms will make very little difference in sonic performance. The
> amps' outputs are much lower impedance so the speakers are in a bridging
> configuration.
>
> Rich
>
> On Sep 8, 2014, at 19:50, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> One thing to remember is that most boat audio systems are 4 ohms and it is
> better to use speakers with same impedance ( 8 ohm will take too much juice
> ).
> Sometimes you only discover it after everything is installed :-)
>
> Sylvain
> C&C27MkIII
>
>   --
>  *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> *To:* "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 8, 2014 6:25 PM
> *Subject:* Stus-List Stereo finally works
>
> After three years my stereo is fully functional.  I replaced the old
> stereo with a Sony unit after I bought the boat.  One of the 2 interior
> speakers worked and the 2 cheapo West cockpit speakers worked.
> After spending way too much time, I finally figured out that the speaker
> wire was to corroded to carry a signal.  Initially, I replaced most of the
> wire with household wire.  DON"T USE HOUSEHOLD SPEAKER WIRE.  That lasted
> about a season.  I finally replaced all of the wire with marine grade wire.
>  Then I discovered that the rubber around the speaker cones disintegrated.
> I bought 5 1/4 inch car speakers that fit into the enclosures for the cabin
> speakers, and then found out the cockpit speakers did't work.  Turns out
> someone twisted and taped the connections.  New crimp connectors fixed
> them.
>
> Finally, 4 working speakers!
> Now, need to upgrade the cockpit speakers.
>
> Joel
> 35/3
> The Office
> Annapolis
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Companionway hood

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

Don,

James at Dockside Marine in Bronte carries butyl  

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> On Sep 8, 2014, at 10:49 PM, "D Harben via CnC-List"  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> I am interested in at least one roll, perhaps 3, if long term storage is not 
> a problem.
> 
> Don
> Oakville 
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2014, at 10:47 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If you are looking for the source, here they are. I bought mine from Compass
>> Marine. It seems that the other one can sell smaller quantities.
>> 
>> There is a downside to it: if you want it shipped to Canada, the cost is
>> about the same as the tape (around $30). It is worth its while to order more
>> (cost of shipping is the same) and share.
>> 
>> Btw. I can share one roll at cost (and it is already on the Canadian side of
>> the border).
>> 
>> Btw2. No association with either of them, but supposedly this is the best
>> butyl tape around.
>> 
>> Bed-It Tape - Compass Marine http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape 
>> 
>> Bed-It Tape - Hamilton Marine
>> http://store.hamiltonmarine.com/browse.cfm/butyl-tape-bed-it-1-2-x-50-roll-7
>> 55207-/4,59595.html 
>> 
>> Marek
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jake
>> Brodersen via CnC-List
>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 7:55 PM
>> To: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Companionway hood
>> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> I used butyl tape when I replaced my companionway hatch.  It is foolproof
>> stuff to work with and seals great.
>> 
>> Jake
>> 
>> Jake Brodersen
>> “Midnight Mistress”
>> C&C 35 Mk-III
>> Hampton VA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Michael
>> Crombie via CnC-List
>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:41 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Companionway hood
>> 
>> 
>> A couple of the screws are loose on my companionway hood, so I am planning
>> on removing it and giving it a good cleaning (and cleaning the gunk
>> underneath it).
>> 
>> What type of sealant should i put into the screwholes when I put it back on?
>> 4200? Silicon?  Any advice would be appreciated.
>> 
>> There seemed to be quite the debate a few years ago about whether to seal
>> the entire underside or not.  Mine only appears to have sealant around the
>> screws and i don't have any leaks (at least not around the companionway!) ,
>> so I'll probably stick with that method.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Mike
>> Atacama C&C 33 Mk II
>> Toronto
>> Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
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