Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?
I am not up to speed on all of the high tech lines that are now available, but is it not possible to buy lines that are already pre-stretched? The story you tell could be an argument for sticking with my tried and true wire and polyester halyards, but I did buy an ATN Top Climber, and I want to purchase the right rope. Steve - Original Message - From: coltrek via CnC-List To: Joel Aronson ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com ; Josh Muckley Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:45 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers? I had a lot of trouble with regular stay- set, then I took the line out to the shop, tied one end to a bollard, the other to a fork lift and stretched it so tight I could walk on it for an afternoon. Worked great after that. Bill Original message From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Date:10/16/2014 10:19 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Josh Muckley , cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers? Fwiw ATN was not at the Annapolis boat show this year. Always had a booth in the past. I've seen the climber used. The rope must be tight for it to work well. I let others do the climbing. Joel On Thursday, October 16, 2014, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Yeah Jack, ATN didn't do themselves any favors when then used the stretchy rope. Too difficult to pull the rope tight enough. If you get a chance to find some ascenders it would be easy to reuse everything you already have to make a top climber A 4:1 block and tackle means that you have to use your arms to pull down 40-50lbs, 75 to 100 times. Not particularly hard but slow and tiring. Using any ascender system relies on using you legs to simply squat your body weight 30 to 40 times. Easier than climbing 4 flights of stairs. I estimated 1-2 feet per pull or squat and a 50' mast. Josh On Oct 16, 2014 9:18 PM, Jack Brennan via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: It’s worth wandering around the marina and testing a couple of systems before buying one. Everyone seems to have a different preference, depending on your fear of heights, taste for adventure, physical condition, etc. I inherited a Mast Mate and didn’t like the spongy feel of the ladder. I tried an ATN Mast Climber and didn’t like it much, either, probably because I wasn’t using a really taut, low-stretch line. Currently, I have a four-part system (two double blocks) with 200 feet of line that allows me to lift myself up if needed. Of course, the best system is the one I use most often – a wife who thinks it’s kind of fun to get lifted up the mast. Jack Brennan -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Ebola?
I have reason to believe this is a population control intentional spread of “A” virus like they did when they created “AIDS” Correct me if I am wrong. Yanni Boatk\less in Ontario Not for long… 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S SCRC 011059 SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!! Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes? Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S via CnC-List Sent: October 16, 2014 8:54 PM To: Josh Muckley; CNC boat owners, cnc-list; Josh Muckley; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola? Hi Josh, Agree. But why did they separate the two infected nurses, the ones that care for the ebola patient who died, and send them to different hospitals for care? That doubles the number of people exposed. Maybe it's for training the hospital staff? Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md _ From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: w...@wbryant.com mailto:w...@wbryant.com , CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:50:00 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola? Over the last 4 weeks I believe we are up to 6 total infected people 2 cured, 1 dead. By comparison 6 people per DAY die from electrocution. We need to keep it in control but it is hardly a pandemic. Oddly they are now choosing to transport an infected patient from Texas to Bethesda, MD. Seems like maybe a questionable decision. Josh Solomons, MD On Oct 16, 2014 7:36 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Is everybody up there okay? I hear there's a pandemicoutbreak of Ebola in the US and Canada. Wal -- s/v Stella Blue www.wbryant.com http://www.wbryant.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Butyl
I use 99% alcohol that I buy in five gallon pales for work to clean everything and remove everything. I used it for butyl too and uncured epoxy that I use for the base insulators, it is a little expensive but works without harming anything. Yanni Boatless in Ontario Not for long. 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S SCRC 011059 SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!! Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes? Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere From: Robert Abbott [mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca] Sent: October 16, 2014 8:45 PM To: Letsgo Sailing; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Butyl But the question was what would remove butyl where it was not wanted. Agreed varsol and paint thinner leave an 'oily film'.why wouldn't they, they are petroleum based. But varsol and paint thinner will remove butyl and will not harm your deck paint any more than the splashing of diesel fuel we apply to our deck paint, annually! So clean any space that needs proper sealing, clean it after the butyl is removed with TSP and/or acetone if the substrate can tolerate acetone. What product would you recommend Mike use to clean his unwanted butyl ? Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/15 1:50 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List wrote: My experiance with varsol and paint thinner is that they leave residue that prevents proper sealing. --- Original Message --- From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: 15 October, 2014 11:30 AM To: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com mike.h...@impgroup.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Butyl Mike: Varsol or any paint thinner will clean butyl. Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. Unstepped the mast yesterday.being hauled out any day now! On 2014/10/15 10:34 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: The one thing I have always hated about Butyl was trying to remove it from where it was not wanted. Old fittings being rebidded that had been using butyl would always result in butyl stuck everywhere on non skid and nearly impossible to remove. Is there some sort of cleaner/solvent that rids us of that? Mike Still sailing in Nova Scotia on Persistence ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Ebola?
I hope you remember SARS few years back, the same thing over again. If it was that serious they N95 mask would have been sold out again. Yanni Boatless in Ontario Not for long… 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S SCRC 011059 SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!! Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes? Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List Sent: October 16, 2014 11:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola? I don't think we're immune to having a really serious problem. I'm hopeful it doesn't come to that but I think there is some potential. To set the mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sYSyuuLk5g There are a lot of people flying into Toronto from all over the world, every day. 8.8 million international passengers flew into Pearson so far this year (that number does not include the more than 7 million Americans). From the WHO website: The incubation period, that is, the time interval from infection with the virus to onset of symptoms is 2 to 21 days. Humans are not infectious until they develop symptoms. Symptoms are flu like. It's flu season. Someone could get off a plane and 'get the flu' 2 weeks later and start showing symptoms at their workplace, the subway, you name it. The nurses that got sick, they were taking every precaution they could .. what chance does a person have on a crowded subway? http://mathbench.umd.edu/modules/popn-dynamics_exponential-growth/page15.htm I don't think that's going to happen, I just think it's not out of the realm of possibility, so it should be taken seriously. I think Brent got it right though, CC forever! Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: You guys can't figure out how to clean up Butyl - there's no way your going to get your heads around the Ebola crisis! sam :-) On 2014-10-16, at 6:53 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Josh, Agree. But why did they separate the two infected nurses, the ones that care for the ebola patient who died, and send them to different hospitals for care? That doubles the number of people exposed. Maybe it's for training the hospital staff? Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md _ From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: w...@wbryant.com mailto:w...@wbryant.com , CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:50:00 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola? Over the last 4 weeks I believe we are up to 6 total infected people 2 cured, 1 dead. By comparison 6 people per DAY die from electrocution. We need to keep it in control but it is hardly a pandemic. Oddly they are now choosing to transport an infected patient from Texas to Bethesda, MD. Seems like maybe a questionable decision. Josh Solomons, MD On Oct 16, 2014 7:36 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Is everybody up there okay? I hear there's a pandemicoutbreak of Ebola in the US and Canada. Wal -- s/v Stella Blue www.wbryant.com http://www.wbryant.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including
Re: Stus-List Ebola?
Kevin you are right, I am just following the conversation. I promise not to… Yanni Boatless in Ontario Not for long… 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S SCRC 011059 SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!! Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes? Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List Sent: October 16, 2014 11:50 PM To: Stevan Plavsa; Burt Stratton via CnC-List; Stevan Plavsa; Burt Stratton via CnC-List Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola? http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/ebola-outbreak/ Boatless Yanni. Take a look at this brief documentary from Frontline. A government conspiracy? But I guess everything is... Let's stick to butyl and CC fin keel conspiracies, which is perhaps, comprehendible for everybody on the list as Sam suggested. KD Kevin Driscoll Portland, Oregon 503 // 875 // 3493 On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I don't think we're immune to having a really serious problem. I'm hopeful it doesn't come to that but I think there is some potential. To set the mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sYSyuuLk5g There are a lot of people flying into Toronto from all over the world, every day. 8.8 million international passengers flew into Pearson so far this year (that number does not include the more than 7 million Americans). From the WHO website: The incubation period, that is, the time interval from infection with the virus to onset of symptoms is 2 to 21 days. Humans are not infectious until they develop symptoms. Symptoms are flu like. It's flu season. Someone could get off a plane and 'get the flu' 2 weeks later and start showing symptoms at their workplace, the subway, you name it. The nurses that got sick, they were taking every precaution they could .. what chance does a person have on a crowded subway? http://mathbench.umd.edu/modules/popn-dynamics_exponential-growth/page15.htm I don't think that's going to happen, I just think it's not out of the realm of possibility, so it should be taken seriously. I think Brent got it right though, CC forever! Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: You guys can't figure out how to clean up Butyl - there's no way your going to get your heads around the Ebola crisis! sam :-) On 2014-10-16, at 6:53 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Josh, Agree. But why did they separate the two infected nurses, the ones that care for the ebola patient who died, and send them to different hospitals for care? That doubles the number of people exposed. Maybe it's for training the hospital staff? Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md _ From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: w...@wbryant.com mailto:w...@wbryant.com , CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:50:00 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola? Over the last 4 weeks I believe we are up to 6 total infected people 2 cured, 1 dead. By comparison 6 people per DAY die from electrocution. We need to keep it in control but it is hardly a pandemic. Oddly they are now choosing to transport an infected patient from Texas to Bethesda, MD. Seems like maybe a questionable decision. Josh Solomons, MD On Oct 16, 2014 7:36 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Is everybody up there okay? I hear there's a pandemicoutbreak of Ebola in the US and Canada. Wal -- s/v Stella Blue www.wbryant.com http://www.wbryant.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:
Re: Stus-List Ebola?
True. These are all preventable / voluntary conditions that are not contagious. Ebola is scary. Ask anyone who lives near West Africa. The wee ones and us old guys are most vulnerable. I am concerned. Not because of the one or two cases but because of the inevitable spread of this incurable and aggressive disease through this very mobile society. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 8:03 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola? From what I've read there are 30 people die from obesity every year, 8 from smoking, 15000 from alcohol, and I don'r know how many from hunger and other reasons. I think it is another way to divert our minds from politics and what has been done wrong and it is being done wrong everyday, and stir some I don't know what. Yanni Boatless in Ontario Not for long 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S SCRC 011059 SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!! Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes? Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: October 16, 2014 7:50 PM To: w...@wbryant.com; CC List; w...@wbryant.com; CC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola? Over the last 4 weeks I believe we are up to 6 total infected people 2 cured, 1 dead. By comparison 6 people per DAY die from electrocution. We need to keep it in control but it is hardly a pandemic. Oddly they are now choosing to transport an infected patient from Texas to Bethesda, MD. Seems like maybe a questionable decision. Josh Solomons, MD On Oct 16, 2014 7:36 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Is everybody up there okay? I hear there's a pandemicoutbreak of Ebola in the US and Canada. Wal -- s/v Stella Blue www.wbryant.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Ebola?
I think your tinfoil hat might be too tight. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 5:37 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola? I have reason to believe this is a population control intentional spread of “A” virus like they did when they created “AIDS” Correct me if I am wrong. Yanni Boatk\less in Ontario Not for long… 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S SCRC 011059 SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!! Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes? Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S via CnC-List Sent: October 16, 2014 8:54 PM To: Josh Muckley; CNC boat owners, cnc-list; Josh Muckley; CNC boat owners, cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola? Hi Josh, Agree. But why did they separate the two infected nurses, the ones that care for the ebola patient who died, and send them to different hospitals for care? That doubles the number of people exposed. Maybe it's for training the hospital staff? Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md _ From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: w...@wbryant.com, CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:50:00 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola? Over the last 4 weeks I believe we are up to 6 total infected people 2 cured, 1 dead. By comparison 6 people per DAY die from electrocution. We need to keep it in control but it is hardly a pandemic. Oddly they are now choosing to transport an infected patient from Texas to Bethesda, MD. Seems like maybe a questionable decision. Josh Solomons, MD On Oct 16, 2014 7:36 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Is everybody up there okay? I hear there's a pandemicoutbreak of Ebola in the US and Canada. Wal -- s/v Stella Blue www.wbryant.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers
Edd I have the ATN version of the mast climber and find it works fine. A taut line to climb on is important. I find coming down is actually harder than going up- you are tempted to take too big a step. Had the MastMate web ladder on the last boat and it works but I found the steps uncomfortably far apart (I have short legs-though they do reach the ground.) and the webbing tended cut into my ankles. Found that both get you high enough to work on the masthead as needed. Like others I do prefer to just grind the wife/daughter up in a chair. They both think it is neat but both are tool challenged so once at the top they are only good for pretty pictures. Kim Brown Trust Me!!! 35-3 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks
Sometime last spring, someone on the list mentioned that he was reading the Farley Mowat book; The Boat Who Wouldn't Float; I had never heard of Mr. Mowat, but noted that the comment was that the book was enjoyable. So I picked up a used paperback copy on ebay. I laid it aside during spring launch and other activities, and came across it a couple of weeks ago. I just finished the book and I am hooked. This was a great read and I couldn't put it down. Since I know little of the northern waters described in the book, I kept my laptop next to me and scoped out all of the places they went, which made it even more enjoyable. So thank you to whomever it was that suggested the book, I am now a Mowat fan! Richard 1985 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 584; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com; 1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Oct 17, 2014 12:11 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl Interlux Special Thinner 216 dissolves butyl beautifully and leaves no noticeable residue. I use it to prep many surfaces for painting or caulking. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 16 October 2014 20:11, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Goo Gone or similar. Final clean with denatured alcohol. BTW, denatured alcohol removes uncured, repeat uncured, 5200 well. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: But the question was what would remove butyl where it was not wanted. Agreed varsol and paint thinner leave an 'oily film'.why wouldn't they, they are petroleum based. But varsol and paint thinner will remove butyl and will not harm your deck paint any more than the splashing of diesel fuel we apply to our deck paint, annually! So clean any space that needs proper sealing, clean it after the butyl is removed with TSP and/or acetone if the substrate can tolerate acetone. What product would you recommend Mike use to clean his unwanted butyl ? Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/15 1:50 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List wrote: My experiance with varsol and paint thinneris that they leave residue that prevents proper sealing. --- Original Message --- From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: 15 October, 2014 11:30 AM To: Hoyt, Mike mike.h...@impgroup.com,cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Butyl Mike: Varsol or any paint thinner will clean butyl. Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. Unstepped the mast yesterday.being hauled out any day now! On 2014/10/15 10:34 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: The one thing I have always hated aboutButyl was trying to remove it from where it was notwanted. Old fittings being rebidded that had been usingbutyl would always result in butyl stuck everywhere onnon skid and nearly impossible to remove. Is there somesort of cleaner/solvent that rids us of that? Mike Still sailing in Nova Scotia onPersistence ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks
Never cry wolf !! Tim Torontohttp://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=250 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard N. Bush via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:32 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks Sometime last spring, someone on the list mentioned that he was reading the Farley Mowat book; The Boat Who Wouldn't Float; I had never heard of Mr. Mowat, but noted that the comment was that the book was enjoyable. So I picked up a used paperback copy on ebay. I laid it aside during spring launch and other activities, and came across it a couple of weeks ago. I just finished the book and I am hooked. This was a great read and I couldn't put it down. Since I know little of the northern waters described in the book, I kept my laptop next to me and scoped out all of the places they went, which made it even more enjoyable. So thank you to whomever it was that suggested the book, I am now a Mowat fan! Richard 1985 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 584; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.commailto:capt...@gmail.com; 1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Oct 17, 2014 12:11 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl Interlux Special Thinner 216 dissolves butyl beautifully and leaves no noticeable residue. I use it to prep many surfaces for painting or caulking. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 16 October 2014 20:11, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Goo Gone or similar. Final clean with denatured alcohol. BTW, denatured alcohol removes uncured, repeat uncured, 5200 well. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: But the question was what would remove butyl where it was not wanted. Agreed varsol and paint thinner leave an 'oily film'.why wouldn't they, they are petroleum based. But varsol and paint thinner will remove butyl and will not harm your deck paint any more than the splashing of diesel fuel we apply to our deck paint, annually! So clean any space that needs proper sealing, clean it after the butyl is removed with TSP and/or acetone if the substrate can tolerate acetone. What product would you recommend Mike use to clean his unwanted butyl ? Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/15 1:50 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List wrote: My experiance with varsol and paint thinner is that they leave residue that prevents proper sealing. --- Original Message --- From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: 15 October, 2014 11:30 AM To: Hoyt, Mike mike.h...@impgroup.commailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Butyl Mike: Varsol or any paint thinner will clean butyl. Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. Unstepped the mast yesterday.being hauled out any day now! On 2014/10/15 10:34 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: The one thing I have always hated about Butyl was trying to remove it from where it was not wanted. Old fittings being rebidded that had been using butyl would always result in butyl stuck everywhere on non skid and nearly impossible to remove. Is there some sort of cleaner/solvent that rids us of that? Mike Still sailing in Nova Scotia on Persistence ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com This communication is confidential. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at www.rogers.com/web/content/emailnoticehttp://www.rogers.com/web/content/emailnotice Ce message est confidentiel. Notre transmission et r?ception de courriels se fait strictement suivant les modalit?s ?nonc?es dans l'avis publi? ?
Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks
The grey seas under, by Mowat. Can't recommend it highly enough Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Oct 17, 2014, at 09:36, Tim Sippel via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Never cry wolf !! Tim Toronto From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard N. Bush via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:32 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks Sometime last spring, someone on the list mentioned that he was reading the Farley Mowat book; The Boat Who Wouldn't Float; I had never heard of Mr. Mowat, but noted that the comment was that the book was enjoyable. So I picked up a used paperback copy on ebay. I laid it aside during spring launch and other activities, and came across it a couple of weeks ago. I just finished the book and I am hooked. This was a great read and I couldn't put it down. Since I know little of the northern waters described in the book, I kept my laptop next to me and scoped out all of the places they went, which made it even more enjoyable. So thank you to whomever it was that suggested the book, I am now a Mowat fan! Richard 1985 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 584; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com; 1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Oct 17, 2014 12:11 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl Interlux Special Thinner 216 dissolves butyl beautifully and leaves no noticeable residue. I use it to prep many surfaces for painting or caulking. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 16 October 2014 20:11, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Goo Gone or similar. Final clean with denatured alcohol. BTW, denatured alcohol removes uncured, repeat uncured, 5200 well. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: But the question was what would remove butyl where it was not wanted. Agreed varsol and paint thinner leave an 'oily film'.why wouldn't they, they are petroleum based. But varsol and paint thinner will remove butyl and will not harm your deck paint any more than the splashing of diesel fuel we apply to our deck paint, annually! So clean any space that needs proper sealing, clean it after the butyl is removed with TSP and/or acetone if the substrate can tolerate acetone. What product would you recommend Mike use to clean his unwanted butyl ? Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/15 1:50 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List wrote: My experiance with varsol and paint thinner is that they leave residue that prevents proper sealing. --- Original Message --- From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: 15 October, 2014 11:30 AM To: Hoyt, Mike mike.h...@impgroup.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Butyl Mike: Varsol or any paint thinner will clean butyl. Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. Unstepped the mast yesterday.being hauled out any day now! On 2014/10/15 10:34 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: The one thing I have always hated about Butyl was trying to remove it from where it was not wanted. Old fittings being rebidded that had been using butyl would always result in butyl stuck everywhere on non skid and nearly impossible to remove. Is there some sort of cleaner/solvent that rids us of that? Mike Still sailing in Nova Scotia on Persistence ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com This communication is confidential. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at www.rogers.com/web/content/emailnotice Ce message est confidentiel. Notre transmission et réception de courriels se fait strictement suivant les modalités énoncées dans
Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks
And *A Whale for the Killing. * The Boat that Wouldn't Float is one of my favourites. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The grey seas under, by Mowat. Can't recommend it highly enough Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Oct 17, 2014, at 09:36, Tim Sippel via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Never cry wolf !! Tim Toronto http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=250 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard N. Bush via CnC-List *Sent:* Friday, October 17, 2014 9:32 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks Sometime last spring, someone on the list mentioned that he was reading the Farley Mowat book; The Boat Who Wouldn't Float; I had never heard of Mr. Mowat, but noted that the comment was that the book was enjoyable. So I picked up a used paperback copy on ebay. I laid it aside during spring launch and other activities, and came across it a couple of weeks ago. I just finished the book and I am hooked. This was a great read and I couldn't put it down. Since I know little of the northern waters described in the book, I kept my laptop next to me and scoped out all of the places they went, which made it even more enjoyable. So thank you to whomever it was that suggested the book, I am now a Mowat fan! Richard 1985 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 584; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com; 1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Oct 17, 2014 12:11 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl Interlux Special Thinner 216 dissolves butyl beautifully and leaves no noticeable residue. I use it to prep many surfaces for painting or caulking. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 16 October 2014 20:11, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Goo Gone or similar. Final clean with denatured alcohol. BTW, denatured alcohol removes uncured, repeat uncured, 5200 well. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: But the question was what would remove butyl where it was not wanted. Agreed varsol and paint thinner leave an 'oily film'.why wouldn't they, they are petroleum based. But varsol and paint thinner will remove butyl and will not harm your deck paint any more than the splashing of diesel fuel we apply to our deck paint, annually! So clean any space that needs proper sealing, clean it after the butyl is removed with TSP and/or acetone if the substrate can tolerate acetone. What product would you recommend Mike use to clean his unwanted butyl ? Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/15 1:50 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List wrote: My experiance with varsol and paint thinner is that they leave residue that prevents proper sealing. --- Original Message --- From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: 15 October, 2014 11:30 AM To: Hoyt, Mike mike.h...@impgroup.com mike.h...@impgroup.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Butyl Mike: Varsol or any paint thinner will clean butyl. Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. Unstepped the mast yesterday.being hauled out any day now! On 2014/10/15 10:34 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: The one thing I have always hated about Butyl was trying to remove it from where it was not wanted. Old fittings being rebidded that had been using butyl would always result in butyl stuck everywhere on non skid and nearly impossible to remove. Is there some sort of cleaner/solvent that rids us of that? Mike Still sailing in Nova Scotia on Persistence ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:
Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers
Edd, I have rigged a mast self climber using rock climbing gear that I had on hand. I used my rock climbing harness, three carabiners, two cords (about half the diameter of your spinnaker halyard) and the spinnaker halyard. All the gear is rated for climbing so I was confident that my safety was not in jeopardy. As a back up, I had a friend belay me by keeping tension on the main halyard that I rigged into the system. You will have to experiment with the length of the two cords so that one will be attached to your harness (which you will sit down in to take the weight off your feet), and one cord will extend down to your feet (which you will stand on to take the weight off your harness). The cords are attached around both strands of your spinnaker halyard using a carabiner (one carabiner for each cord) and a bachmann hitch and one of the cords is attached to your harness and the other is rigged with loops for your feet to fit into. The third carabiner is attached to the main halyard and clipped through the harness climbing loops (NOT THROUGH THE BELAY LOOP). I start by sitting in the harness (now the bachmann hitch grabs tight to the spinnaker halyard and my weight is transferred to the spin hal). I then bend my knees and lift up my feet as close to my but as I can get them. This will put slack in the cord with the foot loops and you then move the bachmann hitch up the spin hal as far as you can reach. Now straighten your legs and stand on the foot loops and your weight will be supported by the bachmann hitch and cord to your feet. This will put slack in the other cord to your harness so you move that bachmann hitch up the spin hal as far as you can reach. Now sit into your harness and raise your feet to start the cycle over again. Repeat until you are as far up the mast as you want to go. To come down reverse the process. The advantage of this system is that it cost me nothing (I already had all the gear) and I did not have to purchase ascenders as the bachmann hitch worked just fine. The other advantage is that the lack of ascenders used results in no damage to the spinnaker halyard and no need to purchase an extra rope to climb the mast. If you visit your local indoor climbing gym I am sure they will be able to advise you on the gear that you will need for this simple system. In a pinch (emergency) you can use this system to climb the mast yourself, but always have someone belay you with the main halyard if possible. Cheers, Joseph Sisson S/V Silent Runner 1975 CC 35 MKII On 2014-10-16, at 7:18 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I'm starting my list of projects -- One of which is some mast work. Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if so, what did you use. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?
I followed a similar thread on this list a number of years ago. I built a climbing harness from rock climbing equipment. It worked pretty good going up, but was a bit of a pain coming down. If someone wants it, it is available for the shipping - it is two carabineers and some strapping. I have decided to let the boat yard with its crane and the little car the mechanic rides in do my mast top work from now on - I just don't need to work that hard (and the boat partner - ex admiral pays her half). Gary (Maryland) gnylan...@atlanticbb.net - Original Message - From: David Knecht via CnC-List To: Josh Muckley ; CnC CnC discussion list Cc: Travis Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 8:54 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers? Mack Sails has one I am thinking of getting. It is shown in the installation video for their Mackpack (which I am getting). They don’t advertise them, but I was told they do make them up and sell them for people. You can see it in use about 4.5 minutes in to the video. I am sure it would take me a lot longer to go up, but it looks easy to use. Still don’t know the cost (are you listening, Travis?) Dave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3RT3iajT-Elist=FLzBlwDs4NZ1W1NImTfRSC-w On Oct 16, 2014, at 8:39 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Here's a couple of links to spring off of for ascender climbing. The foot ascenders look promissing. A waste strap/line can also be passed around the mast and both ends attached to the harness (one end on a carabiner for fast passing of obstructions). This is added safety to prevent accidentally twisting upside down and you slipping out of the harness or chair. This is one reason I prefer a harness. https://www.google.com/search?q=ascender+climbingoq=ascender http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascender_(climbing) http://youtube.com/watch?v=2LK20hvHQyA http://www.rockandice.com/lates-news/ascender-safety-101 Josh On Oct 16, 2014 7:58 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I’m starting my list of projects -- One of which is some mast work. Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if so, what did you use. There’s an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so it’s on my mind. And no, the transporter can’t materialize me at the top of the mast. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com Aries 1990 CC 34+ New London, CT -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?
Sorry, I used the wrong terminology - 'ascenders' - and I got mine from REI. Gary - Original Message - From: Neil Gallagher via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:40 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers? I just made such an arrangement similar to what Josh described. Bought a left and right hand ascender, and put a toe loop on each. Used one halyard to pull up a line with a knot in the middle to the top of the mast, and tied off the lower end of each part, tightly, at the deck. Then put one ascender/toe loop on each part of the line. Took a second halyard to a bosun's chair, with a short loop to a climbing harness as a safety. Was then easy to use both hands and feet to pull up on the ascenders/foot loops, while my wife took the slack up on the chair halyard using a winch. Then I could sit back on the chair while I slid the ascenders/toe loops higher on the two parts, and repeat. The nice part was that coming down, I took the ascenders off and she just payed out the chair on the winch, and the really nice part was that I could get my head above the top of mast by standing on the toe loops. One worthwhile addition was to put a small carabiner in each toe loop around the side lines, keeps the toe loops under the ascenders. I'm going to try this weekend to climb without the chair, it would mean alternately lifting one side at a time, and will still want the second line a a safety/belay to the harness. The price was about $70 each for the ascenders (new at REI), $60 for the harness and about $30 for the toe loops. Neil Gallagher Weatherly, 35-1 Glen Cove, NY On 10/16/2014 8:17 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: The ATN top climmer has worked pretty well for me but I would not buy one. The TC is simply two Gibbs ascenders attached custom bosun's chair and 60' or 70' of 1/2 rope. They arrangement of the ascenders is such that the chair is attached to the top on and a foot strap is attached to the bottom one. Standing up on the foot straps allows you to raise the upper ascender which brings the chair tight to your butt. Sit down in the chair and now you can bend your knees to raise the lower ascender. You inchworm your way up the rope. The rope that was tied to the mast collar on deck and winched taught to the top of the mast. One could safely use a halyard pull the rope tight. Tight is key. No stretch rope is also key. I would look to MAKE a similar system but using rock climbing ascenders (gibbs or otherwise). I would also use a rock climbing harness as a primary and maybe take a comfortable bosun's chair of choice to the top IF I was going to be there for more than 10 min. The ascenders cost $30-50. Rope $50-70. Harness $50-100. Gear can be found at EMS.com or instore. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 16, 2014 7:58 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I'm starting my list of projects -- One of which is some mast work. Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if so, what did you use. There's an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so it's on my mind. And no, the transporter can't materialize me at the top of the mast. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?
I built one of these but using starboard instead of marine ply. I also had a bigger eye at the bottom to guide the line easier. http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo167/knuterikt/mastClimber-2.jpg I ascended once to the top this year, and few times to the 1st spreader. My girlfriend was there to belay the safety halyard for the way up and down. But I was able to pull my weight without a problem. It takes a bit getting used to and always have a safety line. Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 CC 38MkII Newport, RI From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:59 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers? Listers, Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I'm starting my list of projects -- One of which is some mast work. Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if so, what did you use. There's an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so it's on my mind. And no, the transporter can't materialize me at the top of the mast. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks
Sadly Farley Mowat recently passed away. Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Sometime last spring, someone on the list mentioned that he was reading the Farley Mowat book; The Boat Who Wouldn't Float; I had never heard of Mr. Mowat, but noted that the comment was that the book was enjoyable. So I picked up a used paperback copy on ebay. I laid it aside during spring launch and other activities, and came across it a couple of weeks ago. I just finished the book and I am hooked. This was a great read and I couldn't put it down. Since I know little of the northern waters described in the book, I kept my laptop next to me and scoped out all of the places they went, which made it even more enjoyable. So thank you to whomever it was that suggested the book, I am now a Mowat fan! Richard 1985 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 584; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.commailto:capt...@gmail.com; 1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Oct 17, 2014 12:11 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl Interlux Special Thinner 216 dissolves butyl beautifully and leaves no noticeable residue. I use it to prep many surfaces for painting or caulking. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 16 October 2014 20:11, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Goo Gone or similar. Final clean with denatured alcohol. BTW, denatured alcohol removes uncured, repeat uncured, 5200 well. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: But the question was what would remove butyl where it was not wanted. Agreed varsol and paint thinner leave an 'oily film'.why wouldn't they, they are petroleum based. But varsol and paint thinner will remove butyl and will not harm your deck paint any more than the splashing of diesel fuel we apply to our deck paint, annually! So clean any space that needs proper sealing, clean it after the butyl is removed with TSP and/or acetone if the substrate can tolerate acetone. What product would you recommend Mike use to clean his unwanted butyl ? Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/15 1:50 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List wrote: My experiance with varsol and paint thinner is that they leave residue that prevents proper sealing. --- Original Message --- From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: 15 October, 2014 11:30 AM To: Hoyt, Mike mike.h...@impgroup.commailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Butyl Mike: Varsol or any paint thinner will clean butyl. Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. Unstepped the mast yesterday.being hauled out any day now! On 2014/10/15 10:34 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: The one thing I have always hated about Butyl was trying to remove it from where it was not wanted. Old fittings being rebidded that had been using butyl would always result in butyl stuck everywhere on non skid and nearly impossible to remove. Is there some sort of cleaner/solvent that rids us of that? Mike Still sailing in Nova Scotia on Persistence ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:
Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks
One of his best books was And No Birds Sang, the story of his experience fighting with the Hasty Ps of the Canadian Army in Italy in WWII. He landed in Sicily and fought all the way up to Ortona, where he finally succumbed to battle fatigue. It took him a long time to decide to write that book. It was published in 1979. His father's boat, and the boat that he grew up with in Hastings and Patricia Counties in the Bay of Quinte is part of the collection of the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston, and has been recently restored. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Sadly Farley Mowat recently passed away. Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Sometime last spring, someone on the list mentioned that he was reading the Farley Mowat book; The Boat Who Wouldn't Float; I had never heard of Mr. Mowat, but noted that the comment was that the book was enjoyable. So I picked up a used paperback copy on ebay. I laid it aside during spring launch and other activities, and came across it a couple of weeks ago. I just finished the book and I am hooked. This was a great read and I couldn't put it down. Since I know little of the northern waters described in the book, I kept my laptop next to me and scoped out all of the places they went, which made it even more enjoyable. So thank you to whomever it was that suggested the book, I am now a Mowat fan! Richard 1985 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 584; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com; 1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Fri, Oct 17, 2014 12:11 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl Interlux Special Thinner 216 dissolves butyl beautifully and leaves no noticeable residue. I use it to prep many surfaces for painting or caulking. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 16 October 2014 20:11, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Goo Gone or similar. Final clean with denatured alcohol. BTW, denatured alcohol removes uncured, repeat uncured, 5200 well. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: But the question was what would remove butyl where it was not wanted. Agreed varsol and paint thinner leave an 'oily film'.why wouldn't they, they are petroleum based. But varsol and paint thinner will remove butyl and will not harm your deck paint any more than the splashing of diesel fuel we apply to our deck paint, annually! So clean any space that needs proper sealing, clean it after the butyl is removed with TSP and/or acetone if the substrate can tolerate acetone. What product would you recommend Mike use to clean his unwanted butyl ? Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/15 1:50 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List wrote: My experiance with varsol and paint thinner is that they leave residue that prevents proper sealing. --- Original Message --- From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: 15 October, 2014 11:30 AM To: Hoyt, Mike mike.h...@impgroup.com mike.h...@impgroup.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Butyl Mike: Varsol or any paint thinner will clean butyl. Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. Unstepped the mast yesterday.being hauled out any day now! On 2014/10/15 10:34 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: The one thing I have always hated about Butyl was trying to remove it from where it was not wanted. Old fittings being rebidded that had been using butyl would always result in butyl stuck everywhere on non skid and nearly impossible to remove. Is there some sort of cleaner/solvent that rids us of that? Mike Still sailing in Nova Scotia on Persistence ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC
Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend
Please post pictures of the blooper. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: We will be racing on Sunday in Branford, CT. The Around the Bouys Wednesday night series transitions to Sundays between Labor Day and end of October . The course is normally set around a few nearby government marks, but this week is slightly different with a course out around Faulkner's Island (about 10nm) away and back. The forecast is for ~50 degrees, no rain, 20kn - downwind on the way out. I'm planning to break the blooper out for the first time since I've owned Mojito as we have a few experienced people on board and a long leg to play with it. It's a very casual race so any other CC's around Branford would be very welcome if they just turn up and announce themselves on Ch 68. Warning signal is 11:00am at Cow Calf just outside the harbor. Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Anyone headed out? It looks like we’ll have frontal passage here Saturday night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home with 15 knots on the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, but the forecast is uphill both ways and I don’t trust Kent Narrows with a strong northerly. *Joe Della Barba* *Coquina* *CC 35* ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers
I have a similar system except I use a prussic loop rather than the bachman, and then two climbing tapes to go from loop to harness or feet, I think they are more secure and they work in both directions should you find yourself upside down for some reason. - Original Message - From: Joseph Sisson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:02:35 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers Edd, I have rigged a mast self climber using rock climbing gear that I had on hand. I used my rock climbing harness, three carabiners, two cords (about half the diameter of your spinnaker halyard) and the spinnaker halyard. All the gear is rated for climbing so I was confident that my safety was not in jeopardy. As a back up, I had a friend belay me by keeping tension on the main halyard that I rigged into the system. You will have to experiment with the length of the two cords so that one will be attached to your harness (which you will sit down in to take the weight off your feet), and one cord will extend down to your feet (which you will stand on to take the weight off your harness). The cords are attached around both strands of your spinnaker halyard using a carabiner (one carabiner for each cord) and a bachmann hitch and one of the cords is attached to your harness and the other is rigged with loops for your feet to fit into. The third carabiner is attached to the main halyard and clipped through the harness climbing loops (NOT THROUGH THE BELAY LOOP). I start by sitting in the harness (now the bachmann hitch grabs tight to the spinnaker halyard and my weight is transferred to the spin hal). I then bend my knees and lift up my feet as close to my but as I can get them. This will put slack in the cord with the foot loops and you then move the bachmann hitch up the spin hal as far as you can reach. Now straighten your legs and stand on the foot loops and your weight will be supported by the bachmann hitch and cord to your feet. This will put slack in the other cord to your harness so you move that bachmann hitch up the spin hal as far as you can reach. Now sit into your harness and raise your feet to start the cycle over again. Repeat until you are as far up the mast as you want to go. To come down reverse the process. The advantage of this system is that it cost me nothing (I already had all the gear) and I did not have to purchase ascenders as the bachmann hitch worked just fine. The other advantage is that the lack of ascenders used results in no damage to the spinnaker halyard and no need to purchase an extra rope to climb the mast. If you visit your local indoor climbing gym I am sure they will be able to advise you on the gear that you will need for this simple system. In a pinch (emergency) you can use this system to climb the mast yourself, but always have someone belay you with the main halyard if possible. Cheers, Joseph Sisson S/V Silent Runner 1975 CC 35 MKII On 2014-10-16, at 7:18 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I'm starting my list of projects -- One of which is some mast work. Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if so, what did you use. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Butyl
Interlux Special Thinner 216 smells just like xylene, availble from most paint stores for 1/3 the price.xylene works Dwight Veinot CC 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts via CnC-List Sent: October 17, 2014 1:11 AM To: Dennis C.; 1 CnC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl Interlux Special Thinner 216 dissolves butyl beautifully and leaves no noticeable residue. I use it to prep many surfaces for painting or caulking. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 16 October 2014 20:11, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Goo Gone or similar. Final clean with denatured alcohol. BTW, denatured alcohol removes uncured, repeat uncured, 5200 well. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: But the question was what would remove butyl where it was not wanted. Agreed varsol and paint thinner leave an 'oily film'.why wouldn't they, they are petroleum based. But varsol and paint thinner will remove butyl and will not harm your deck paint any more than the splashing of diesel fuel we apply to our deck paint, annually! So clean any space that needs proper sealing, clean it after the butyl is removed with TSP and/or acetone if the substrate can tolerate acetone. What product would you recommend Mike use to clean his unwanted butyl ? Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/15 1:50 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List wrote: My experiance with varsol and paint thinner is that they leave residue that prevents proper sealing. --- Original Message --- From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: 15 October, 2014 11:30 AM To: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com mike.h...@impgroup.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Butyl Mike: Varsol or any paint thinner will clean butyl. Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. Unstepped the mast yesterday.being hauled out any day now! On 2014/10/15 10:34 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: The one thing I have always hated about Butyl was trying to remove it from where it was not wanted. Old fittings being rebidded that had been using butyl would always result in butyl stuck everywhere on non skid and nearly impossible to remove. Is there some sort of cleaner/solvent that rids us of that? Mike Still sailing in Nova Scotia on Persistence ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8356 - Release Date: 10/09/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Ebola?
Yanni, looking at cartoons is not really reading :) https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10678811_947676645253347_5299347798631232381_n.jpg?oh=c0673d63d85a52310d1f0f68c7bcaf82oe=54BAFD3B__gda__=1420776167_2dbbff97e2098d371df4cc407ed007e8 To keep this sailing related, this guy looks like one of AG's cockpit crew. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 Wet Coast, Colony of V.I., kinda damp right now At 05:02 PM 16/10/2014, you wrote: From what I've read there are 30 people die from obesity every year, 8 from smoking, 15000 from alcohol, and I don'r know how many from hunger and other reasons. I think it is another way to divert our minds from politics and what has been done wrong and it is being done wrong everyday, and stir some I don't know what. Yanni Boatless in Ontario Not for long ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend
Fall series racing out of Schooner Cove this Sunday. I hope the gale warning forecast will ease up a bit for Sunday morning. The little boats don't like to go out if it's blowing over 20 knots at the start. It will be a bit damp so I better dig out the woolies. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 09:07 AM 16/10/2014, you wrote: Rain rain rain rain rain rain rain. That's our forecast for the next 7 days. We might get a bit of a break today so this may be the day I go out and take all the summer cruising gear off. While a little depressing, the good side of this is that the boat sails much better without all that crap on it. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 16 October 2014 07:48, Joel Aronson via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Possible day sail Saturday, then frostbiting out of West River Sunday. Enjoy Charm City! Joel On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Anyone headed out? It looks like weâll have frontal passage here Saturday night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home with 15 knots on the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, but the forecast is uphill both ways and I donât trust Kent Narrows with a strong northerly. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?
The best ascenders are made for speleologists (cave climbers). Buy those at any place that sells climbing gear (e.g. MEC.ca). Petzl initially was dealing in that kind of gear (now they have just about anything climbing related). I would look at Petzl or Grivel (around $70). I trust the climbing gear much more than anything else as climbers use that gear all the time (sailors only occasionally and with great reluctance). If you want some extra ease in climbing up or want to have something to stand up on, try a string of these: http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en/big-wall-climbing/alpine-aiders-BD390050ALL1.html (Black Diamond Climbing Aider). It is not that much different than climbing the mast steps. If you prefer to live to tell the story, always use a second line for safety (one to hang on, one spare). If you don’t, make sure that you have a video camera filming the story and have someone to post it to Darwin Awards. Marek s/v “Legato” (mast unstepped, waiting for haulout) in Ottawa From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:58 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers? Listers, Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I’m starting my list of projects -- One of which is some mast work. Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if so, what did you use. There’s an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so it’s on my mind. And no, the transporter can’t materialize me at the top of the mast. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List drive strut
I had my 38 hauled out to have some glass work done on the knife edge of the transom, because some moron bumped it (300-ft space between docks). While it was up on sticks I figured I get some work done, like zincs, grease the maxi prop, etc. I notice something with my strut. I have moisture around the base of the strut, in the form of a square. Strut seems to be tight, to the untrained eye. I understand after they are installed (bolted up) they are glazed in, using epoxy or fairing or a combination, possibly even glassed in (rare). The cause can be vibration from misalignment, worn cutlass bearing or loose bolts or again any combination. Anyone ever have this issue and have some suggestions. I believe the filler to smooth it out is cracked. Thanks Larry -Original Message- From: cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:00 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 105, Issue 48 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of CnC-List digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Mast Self-Climbers? (Petar Horvatic) 2. Re: Farley Mowat and thanks (Paul Fountain) 3. Re: Farley Mowat and thanks (Robert Mazza) 4. Re: sailing this weekend (Eric Baumes) 5. Re: Mast Self-Climbers (Paul Baker) 6. Re: Butyl (dwight) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 10:19:12 -0400 From: Petar Horvatic phorv...@gmail.com To: 'Edd Schillay' e...@schillay.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers? Message-ID: 01d301cfea15$5463c070$fd2b4150$@com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I built one of these but using starboard instead of marine ply. I also had a bigger eye at the bottom to guide the line easier. http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo167/knuterikt/mastClimber-2.jpg I ascended once to the top this year, and few times to the 1st spreader. My girlfriend was there to belay the safety halyard for the way up and down. But I was able to pull my weight without a problem. It takes a bit getting used to and always have a safety line. Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 CC 38MkII Newport, RI From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:59 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers? Listers, Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I'm starting my list of projects -- One of which is some mast work. Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if so, what did you use. There's an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so it's on my mind. And no, the transporter can't materialize me at the top of the mast. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20141017/ab 07e124/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:26:21 + From: Paul Fountain p...@seasource.ca To: Richard N. Bush bushma...@aol.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks Message-ID: b1e1531b-97e3-4b0b-96cf-026049d70...@seasource.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sadly Farley Mowat recently passed away. Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Sometime last spring, someone on the list mentioned that he was reading the Farley Mowat book; The Boat Who Wouldn't Float; I had never heard of Mr. Mowat, but noted that the comment was that the book was enjoyable. So I picked up a used paperback copy on ebay. I laid it aside during spring launch and other activities, and came across it a couple of weeks ago. I just finished the book and I am hooked. This was a great read and I couldn't put it down. Since I know little of the northern waters described in the book, I kept my laptop next to me and scoped out all of the places they went, which made it even more enjoyable. So thank you to whomever
Re: Stus-List drive strut
Larry - after this much time it could be anything. I've replaced my filler twice. It could be simple marine putty, fairing compound, etc. You can pick at it and see. The strut is bolted into a recess and puttied fair. The last time I did it, I used fiber reinforced vinylester putty from Everlast, and that seems to be holding up really well. As to why it's failing, it could just be age. Or it could be vibration from a loose cutlass bearing, or you might have wrapped something around the prop without noticing. Unless there's water coming inside the boat it's just superficial. Wal you wrote: I understand after they are installed (bolted up) they are glazed in, using epoxy or fairing or a combination, possibly even glassed in (rare). ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal
Practical Sailor recently posted a suggestion for winterizing the Dripless PYI shaft seal. PS said to unclamp the SS rotor from the prop shaft so the bellows could expand to its uncompressed state. I have never done this, and with the recent discussion about the set screws holding the rotor in place on the prop shaft, I wonder if it is worth it. Would be interested in what other PYI users do. I did replace the entire unit last winter; at full engine RPM I had noticed water spraying out between the rotor and the carbon flange, perhaps because the thrust of the prop pushed the shaft forward until the rotor did not make good contact with the flange. When I unclamped the rotor and slid it forward to inspect, the bellows was very stiff and there were some small pits in the carbon and the rotor surfaces. PYI recommended replacing the entire unit, which I did, and it has worked fine this summer. But it had worked flawlessly for the 8 years I owned the boat, and looked like it had been installed well before that, without doing anything to winterize it - just checking to make sure it was not leaking at the beginning of each season. So what's the feeling about following PS's suggestion? Eric Frank Cat's Paw CC 35 Mk II Mattapoisett, MA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal
Sounds like a lot of work just to get access to it. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eric Frank via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 2:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal Practical Sailor recently posted a suggestion for winterizing the Dripless PYI shaft seal. PS said to unclamp the SS rotor from the prop shaft so the bellows could expand to its uncompressed state. I have never done this, and with the recent discussion about the set screws holding the rotor in place on the prop shaft, I wonder if it is worth it. Would be interested in what other PYI users do. I did replace the entire unit last winter; at full engine RPM I had noticed water spraying out between the rotor and the carbon flange, perhaps because the thrust of the prop pushed the shaft forward until the rotor did not make good contact with the flange. When I unclamped the rotor and slid it forward to inspect, the bellows was very stiff and there were some small pits in the carbon and the rotor surfaces. PYI recommended replacing the entire unit, which I did, and it has worked fine this summer. But it had worked flawlessly for the 8 years I owned the boat, and looked like it had been installed well before that, without doing anything to winterize it - just checking to make sure it was not leaking at the beginning of each season. So what's the feeling about following PS's suggestion? Eric Frank Cat's Paw CC 35 Mk II Mattapoisett, MA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal
I'd call or email Fred at PYI. He also has a lot of YouTube videos. Joel On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Sounds like a lot of work just to get access to it. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eric Frank via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 2:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal Practical Sailor recently posted a suggestion for winterizing the Dripless PYI shaft seal. PS said to unclamp the SS rotor from the prop shaft so the bellows could expand to its uncompressed state. I have never done this, and with the recent discussion about the set screws holding the rotor in place on the prop shaft, I wonder if it is worth it. Would be interested in what other PYI users do. I did replace the entire unit last winter; at full engine RPM I had noticed water spraying out between the rotor and the carbon flange, perhaps because the thrust of the prop pushed the shaft forward until the rotor did not make good contact with the flange. When I unclamped the rotor and slid it forward to inspect, the bellows was very stiff and there were some small pits in the carbon and the rotor surfaces. PYI recommended replacing the entire unit, which I did, and it has worked fine this summer. But it had worked flawlessly for the 8 years I owned the boat, and looked like it had been installed well before that, without doing anything to winterize it - just checking to make sure it was not leaking at the beginning of each season. So what's the feeling about following PS's suggestion? Eric Frank Cat's Paw CC 35 Mk II Mattapoisett, MA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Bermuda Hurricane Gonzalo
For now, there is live video of the Naval dock: http://portbermudawebcam.com/ I wish them well! -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List drive strut
Been there, done that several haulouts. The fairing compound in the gap between the strut base and the strut recess is subject to cracking due to vibration of the drive train. If your shaft is aligned and your prop is in balance, then I tend to believe it is purely cosmetic IF your strut fasteners are tight. Grind out the compound a bit and put it some new compound, fair it, paint it and splash. Chances are you may see it again next haulout. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Douglas via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I had my 38 hauled out to have some glass work done on the knife edge of the transom, because some moron bumped it (300-ft space between docks). While it was up on sticks I figured I get some work done, like zincs, grease the maxi prop, etc. I notice something with my strut. I have moisture around the base of the strut, in the form of a square. Strut seems to be tight, to the untrained eye. I understand after they are installed (bolted up) they are glazed in, using epoxy or fairing or a combination, possibly even glassed in (rare). The cause can be vibration from misalignment, worn cutlass bearing or loose bolts or again any combination. Anyone ever have this issue and have some suggestions. I believe the filler to smooth it out is cracked. Thanks Larry ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List torqing keel bolts
LkL Hello Listers, While on the hard want to check the nuts on the keel bolts and understand 250 lbs is needed. Boat mechanic says it is very difficult to get the proper leverage deep in the bilge. Anyone ever used a small jack and maybe also with a cheater pipe to apply side pressure against the bilge walls to move the torque wrench. Also, mechanic suggested slightly loosening the nuts first and then re-tightening. That does not sound good to me. Any thought on his suggestion. I thank any responses in advance always appreciate the help. Lloyd Lippe Finesse LF39 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal
I wonder if your pits were from not using it and then oxidation or electrolysis cause carbon material to deteriorate. The more you use it the better the seal is as the carbon polishes itself out. I had leakage when my prop coupling was badly miss-aligned but once I fixed that, leakage went away. Don't forget to replace set screws every time you loosen them. I installed mine new in 2004. Had it out on 4-5 occasions at which time I would soak everything in a tupperware container with WD40 for few days then wipe it clean. Then I read this article. http://www.passagemaker.com/articles/technical/running-gear/dripless-shaft-s eals/ And I realized that I was probably lucky that I never had a problem. I am due for whatever overhaul kit comes for it. They don't specify the size and thread on the set screw. I have ordered a 25 pack from mcmaster 5/16-18 in 316SS, with a point set. I am yet to see how they fit. Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 CC 38MkII Newport, RI -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eric Frank via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal Practical Sailor recently posted a suggestion for winterizing the Dripless PYI shaft seal. PS said to unclamp the SS rotor from the prop shaft so the bellows could expand to its uncompressed state. I have never done this, and with the recent discussion about the set screws holding the rotor in place on the prop shaft, I wonder if it is worth it. Would be interested in what other PYI users do. I did replace the entire unit last winter; at full engine RPM I had noticed water spraying out between the rotor and the carbon flange, perhaps because the thrust of the prop pushed the shaft forward until the rotor did not make good contact with the flange. When I unclamped the rotor and slid it forward to inspect, the bellows was very stiff and there were some small pits in the carbon and the rotor surfaces. PYI recommended replacing the entire unit, which I did, and it has worked fine this summer. But it had worked flawlessly for the 8 years I owned the boat, and looked like it had been installed well before that, without doing anything to winterize it - just checking to make sure it was not leaking at the beginning of each season. So what's the feeling about following PS's suggestion? Eric Frank Cat's Paw CC 35 Mk II Mattapoisett, MA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend
looks like 16 to 18 knt winds with 24 knt gust and 7' seas tomorrow up here. I'm holding off for colder and calmer seas of 4' on Sunday... LOL Coming out of and getting back into the westport river can be pretty exciting in those kind of seas! Anyone want some crew in in Narragansett bay?? LOL Danny -- Original Message -- From: Russ Melody via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com,cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:06:38 -0700 Fall series racing out of Schooner Cove this Sunday. I hope the gale warning forecast will ease up a bit for Sunday morning. The little boats don't like to go out if it's blowing over 20 knots at the start. It will be a bit damp so I better dig out the woolies. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 09:07 AM 16/10/2014, you wrote: Rain rain rain rain rain rain rain. That's our forecast for the next 7 days. We might get a bit of a break today so this may be the day I go out and take all the summer cruising gear off. While a little depressing, the good side of this is that the boat sails much better without all that crap on it. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 16 October 2014 07:48, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Possible day sail Saturday, then frostbiting out of West River Sunday.#65533; Enjoy Charm City! Joel On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Anyone headed out? It looks like wersquo;ll have frontal passage here Saturday night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home with 15 knots on the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, but the forecast is uphill both ways and I donrsquo;t trust Kent Narrows with a strong northerly. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List torqing keel bolts
Check your local rental stores, someone may be able to rent you a torque multiplier. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200623947_200623947 Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 17 October 2014 11:01, LKL Architects via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hello Listers, While on the hard want to check the nuts on the keel bolts and understand 250 lbs is needed. Boat mechanic says it is very difficult to get the proper leverage deep in the bilge. Anyone ever used a small jack and maybe also with a cheater pipe to apply side pressure against the bilge walls to move the torque wrench. Also, mechanic suggested slightly loosening the nuts first and then re-tightening. That does not sound good to me. Any thought on his suggestion. I thank any responses in advance always appreciate the help. Lloyd Lippe Finesse LF39 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List drive strut
Douglas: You already have had good advice from the CC listers. No new advice from me but here is what we did with the same situation you are experiencing. When we bought our boat in 2006, the strut base had a fine hairline crack. We decided to dig out all the filler, mainly to check the nuts/bolts and related structure holding the 'strut'. All was O.Kbut now we know.the hairline crack was probably caused by vibration from a worn cutlass bearing..no big dealwe replaced the cutlass bearing and refilled the strut base with I think, polyester resinif I can remember it took two litre cans I bought at Canadian Tire for $10 per litre versus $50 per litre at the Binnacle.exact same resin made by 3Mone in a red label for $10 and the other in a green labeled can for $50. Nine seasons later, still no new hairline cracks. Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/17 1:30 PM, Douglas via CnC-List wrote: I had my 38 hauled out to have some glass work done on the knife edge of the transom, because some moron bumped it (300-ft space between docks). While it was up on sticks I figured I get some work done, like zincs, grease the maxi prop, etc. I notice something with my strut. I have moisture around the base of the strut, in the form of a square. Strut seems to be tight, to the untrained eye. I understand after they are installed (bolted up) they are glazed in, using epoxy or fairing or a combination, possibly even glassed in (rare). The cause can be vibration from misalignment, worn cutlass bearing or loose bolts or again any combination. Anyone ever have this issue and have some suggestions. I believe the filler to smooth it out is cracked. Thanks Larry ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal
I would not do it, because you would have to get new set screws and reset it in the spring. I am leaving mine intact. Marek (in Ottawa) -Original Message- From: Eric Frank via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:21 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal Practical Sailor recently posted a suggestion for winterizing the Dripless PYI shaft seal. PS said to unclamp the SS rotor from the prop shaft so the bellows could expand to its uncompressed state. I have never done this, and with the recent discussion about the set screws holding the rotor in place on the prop shaft, I wonder if it is worth it. Would be interested in what other PYI users do. I did replace the entire unit last winter; at full engine RPM I had noticed water spraying out between the rotor and the carbon flange, perhaps because the thrust of the prop pushed the shaft forward until the rotor did not make good contact with the flange. When I unclamped the rotor and slid it forward to inspect, the bellows was very stiff and there were some small pits in the carbon and the rotor surfaces. PYI recommended replacing the entire unit, which I did, and it has worked fine this summer. But it had worked flawlessly for the 8 years I owned the boat, and looked like it had been installed well before that, without doing anything to winterize it - just checking to make sure it was not leaking at the beginning of each season. So what's the feeling about following PS's suggestion? Eric Frank Cat's Paw CC 35 Mk II Mattapoisett, MA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal
I second following PYI’s recommendations for maintenance and winterizing. I replaced Calypso’s bellows and carbon rotor after 8 years. The SS rotor was fine with a little cleaning. I had the PYI instruction sheet in hand as I set the bellows compression and tightened the SS rotor in place. For the past 29 years of owning boats with PYI Shaft Seals installed I have not de-commissioned the shaft seal over winter. We often use the boat all year, but only once or twice a month between December and March. (This year we will run the engine in place as the deck restoration work shelter is still in place.) After a long lay up, I would certainly inspect the bellows and rotors, burp the bellows and rotate by hand the seal interface (to be sure the rotors have not been bonded together), and check the tightness of the hose clamps. I do rinse the bellows and rotor with fresh water from time to time to prevent salt build up. The one major failure of a bellows that I have read about was caused by lack of maintenance and use. IIRC the boat had sat idle for year(s?) and the rotors bonded together. When the engine was put in gear the shaft rotation was fully transmitted to the bellows resulting in a tear. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:29 AM To: Hoyt, Mike; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal I'd call or email Fred at PYI. He also has a lot of YouTube videos. Joel On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Sounds like a lot of work just to get access to it. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eric Frank via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 2:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal Practical Sailor recently posted a suggestion for winterizing the Dripless PYI shaft seal. PS said to unclamp the SS rotor from the prop shaft so the bellows could expand to its uncompressed state. I have never done this, and with the recent discussion about the set screws holding the rotor in place on the prop shaft, I wonder if it is worth it. Would be interested in what other PYI users do. I did replace the entire unit last winter; at full engine RPM I had noticed water spraying out between the rotor and the carbon flange, perhaps because the thrust of the prop pushed the shaft forward until the rotor did not make good contact with the flange. When I unclamped the rotor and slid it forward to inspect, the bellows was very stiff and there were some small pits in the carbon and the rotor surfaces. PYI recommended replacing the entire unit, which I did, and it has worked fine this summer. But it had worked flawlessly for the 8 years I owned the boat, and looked like it had been installed well before that, without doing anything to winterize it - just checking to make sure it was not leaking at the beginning of each season. So what's the feeling about following PS's suggestion? Eric Frank Cat's Paw CC 35 Mk II Mattapoisett, MA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks, and All Is Lost
Farley Mowat also had the distinction of being banned from the U.S. He was getting on a plane in Toronto for a book tour in the U.S. when he was told he wasn¹t allowed in. He was on a list of Anarchists, Communists, and other ne¹er do wells. Not a book, but has anyone seen the sailing disaster film, All Is Lost, with Robert Redford? I had high expectations, but was pretty disappointed. Ed From: Paul Fountain p...@seasource.ca To: Richard N. Bush bushma...@aol.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks Message-ID: b1e1531b-97e3-4b0b-96cf-026049d70...@seasource.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sadly Farley Mowat recently passed away. Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Sometime last spring, someone on the list mentioned that he was reading the Farley Mowat book; The Boat Who Wouldn't Float; I had never heard of Mr. Mowat, but noted that the comment was that the book was enjoyable. So I picked up a used paperback copy on ebay. I laid it aside during spring launch and other activities, and came across it a couple of weeks ago. I just finished the book and I am hooked. This was a great read and I couldn't put it down. Since I know little of the northern waters described in the book, I kept my laptop next to me and scoped out all of the places they went, which made it even more enjoyable. So thank you to whomever it was that suggested the book, I am now a Mowat fan! Richard 1985 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 584; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal
I don't touch mine. Week/old/worn engine mounts can allow a week/old/worn/poorly adjusted bellows to leak especially at high thrust periods (Tied to the dock, towing, or changing from full reverse to full ahead). You can often times finish the season or even extend a season or two by simply snugging up on the SS collar but you are on borrowed time and the interest rate could be very high. During the launch you should burp the collar to ensure no air is trapped. The carbon and stainless need a tiny bit of water to cool and lubricate. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 17, 2014 1:22 PM, Eric Frank via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Practical Sailor recently posted a suggestion for winterizing the Dripless PYI shaft seal. PS said to unclamp the SS rotor from the prop shaft so the bellows could expand to its uncompressed state. I have never done this, and with the recent discussion about the set screws holding the rotor in place on the prop shaft, I wonder if it is worth it. Would be interested in what other PYI users do. I did replace the entire unit last winter; at full engine RPM I had noticed water spraying out between the rotor and the carbon flange, perhaps because the thrust of the prop pushed the shaft forward until the rotor did not make good contact with the flange. When I unclamped the rotor and slid it forward to inspect, the bellows was very stiff and there were some small pits in the carbon and the rotor surfaces. PYI recommended replacing the entire unit, which I did, and it has worked fine this summer. But it had worked flawlessly for the 8 years I owned the boat, and looked like it had been installed well before that, without doing anything to winterize it - just checking to make sure it was not leaking at the beginning of each season. So what's the feeling about following PS's suggestion? Eric Frank Cat's Paw CC 35 Mk II Mattapoisett, MA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List torqing keel bolts
Hi Lloyd, Sounds like you have a good mechanic. Good practice for fine work or critical assembly is back off re-torque but it's unnecessary for keelbolts. And is the spec for dry clean or lubricated? We just need them tight enough, 10% over is no big deal. I would check each at spec then try again at 10% over on any that prove tight on first go, but stop at movement. But only 250 ft/lbs?... have you got 3/4 bolts? 1 should be 350 ft/lbs. I'm surprised he didn't suggest a torque-multi as Jim did. If you use an extension on the socket then you need to compensate for that torsion as well (depends on the length of the extension). KISS, we're closer to farm equipment standards here than race cars. :) Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 11:01 AM 17/10/2014, you wrote: Hello Listers, While on the hard want to check the nuts on the keel bolts and understand 250 lbs is needed. Boat mechanic says it is very difficult to get the proper leverage deep in the bilge. Anyone ever used a small jack and maybe also with a cheater pipe to apply side pressure against the bilge walls to move the torque wrench. Also, mechanic suggested slightly loosening the nuts first and then re-tightening. That does not sound good to me. Any thought on his suggestion. I thank any responses in advance always appreciate the help. Lloyd Lippe Finesse LF39 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks, and All Is Lost
I just watched that movie a couple of weeks ago.I didn't want to turn it off... I found myself asking, WTF is he doing now? a lot. found out it was a Cal 39 that he was on. They basically bought and destroyed 3 of them for the movie. Danny -- Original Message -- From: Ed Dooley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks, and All Is Lost Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:36:18 -0400 Farley Mowat also had the distinction of being banned from the U.S. He was getting on a plane in Toronto for a book tour in the U.S. when he was told he wasnrsquo;t allowed in. He was on a list of Anarchists, Communists, and other nersquo;er do wells. Not a book, but has anyone seen the sailing disaster film, All Is Lost, with Robert Redford? I had high expectations, but was pretty disappointed. Ed From: Paul Fountain p...@seasource.ca To: Richard N. Bush bushma...@aol.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks Message-ID: b1e1531b-97e3-4b0b-96cf-026049d70...@seasource.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sadly Farley Mowat recently passed away. Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Sometime last spring, someone on the list mentioned that he was reading the Farley Mowat book; The Boat Who Wouldn't Float; I had never heard of Mr. Mowat, but noted that the comment was that the book was enjoyable. So I picked up a used paperback copy on ebay. I laid it aside during spring launch and other activities, and came across it a couple of weeks ago. I just finished the book and I am hooked. This was a great read and I couldn't put it down. Since I know little of the northern waters described in the book, I kept my laptop next to me and scoped out all of the places they went, which made it even more enjoyable. So thank you to whomever it was that suggested the book, I am now a Mowat fan! Richard 1985 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 584; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?
I advocate making your own climbing system but for the record, the ATN system uses Gibbs ascenders. They are full capture ascenders that cannot come off and have a good record in the climbing and fire rescue communities. Some ascenders are designed to attach at a mid point of the rope these can come off if care is not taken. If one of these is being considered then one should ensure that it is also the type refered to as prusik minding. It will have a fair lead around the rope to push a prusik up the rope in front of the ascender. It will also have a means of attaching the prusik to the ascender. It could be a hole or just simply a closed handle, a handle carabiner combo, or a clip. Josh On Oct 17, 2014 12:17 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The best ascenders are made for speleologists (cave climbers). Buy those at any place that sells climbing gear (e.g. MEC.ca). Petzl initially was dealing in that kind of gear (now they have just about anything climbing related). I would look at Petzl or Grivel (around $70). I trust the climbing gear much more than anything else as climbers use that gear all the time (sailors only occasionally and with great reluctance). If you want some extra ease in climbing up or want to have something to stand up on, try a string of these: http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en/big-wall-climbing/alpine-aiders-BD390050ALL1.html (Black Diamond Climbing Aider). It is not that much different than climbing the mast steps. If you prefer to live to tell the story, always use a second line for safety (one to hang on, one spare). If you don't, make sure that you have a video camera filming the story and have someone to post it to Darwin Awards. Marek s/v Legato (mast unstepped, waiting for haulout) in Ottawa *From:* Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:58 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers? Listers, Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I'm starting my list of projects -- One of which is some mast work. Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if so, what did you use. There's an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so it's on my mind. And no, the transporter can't materialize me at the top of the mast. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Bermuda Hurricane Gonzalo
Yikes. This is not going to be pretty. John Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: For now, there is live video of the Naval dock: http://portbermudawebcam.com/ I wish them well! -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks, and All Is Lost
This article describes what they did to make it look as real as it did. I think I would have enjoyed it more on the big screen. I watched it on a 37² TV. One of the scenes that stood out was when the boat capsized and Redford is underwater looking up at the upside down cockpit. He swims straight up into the cockpit just as the boat does another 180, and he¹s back in the upright cockpit above water. Ed http://www.sailingworld.com/all-lost-hollywood From: Danny Haughey djhaug...@juno.com Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:49:26 GMT To: edoo...@madriver.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks, and All Is Lost I just watched that movie a couple of weeks ago. I didn't want to turn it off... I found myself asking, WTF is he doing now? a lot. found out it was a Cal 39 that he was on. They basically bought and destroyed 3 of them for the movie. Danny -- Original Message -- From: Ed Dooley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks, and All Is Lost Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:36:18 -0400 Farley Mowat also had the distinction of being banned from the U.S. He was getting on a plane in Toronto for a book tour in the U.S. when he was told he wasn¹t allowed in. He was on a list of Anarchists, Communists, and other ne¹er do wells. Not a book, but has anyone seen the sailing disaster film, All Is Lost, with Robert Redford? I had high expectations, but was pretty disappointed. Ed From: Paul Fountain p...@seasource.ca To: Richard N. Bush bushma...@aol.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks Message-ID: b1e1531b-97e3-4b0b-96cf-026049d70...@seasource.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sadly Farley Mowat recently passed away. Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Sometime last spring, someone on the list mentioned that he was reading the Farley Mowat book; The Boat Who Wouldn't Float; I had never heard of Mr. Mowat, but noted that the comment was that the book was enjoyable. So I picked up a used paperback copy on ebay. I laid it aside during spring launch and other activities, and came across it a couple of weeks ago. I just finished the book and I am hooked. This was a great read and I couldn't put it down. Since I know little of the northern waters described in the book, I kept my laptop next to me and scoped out all of the places they went, which made it even more enjoyable. So thank you to whomever it was that suggested the book, I am now a Mowat fan! Richard 1985 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 584; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List One more All Is Lost link
I found myself annoyed by all the little, and big, mistakes made: http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/wrong-robert-redfords-film-epic-2993403 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List torqing keel bolts
Thank you Russ and Jim, All good suggestions and appreciate your helpI feel a lot better going forward. Lloyd Finesse LF 39 Rockport, Texas - Original Message - From: Russ Melody via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:42 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List torqing keel bolts Hi Lloyd, Sounds like you have a good mechanic. Good practice for fine work or critical assembly is back off re-torque but it's unnecessary for keelbolts. And is the spec for dry clean or lubricated? We just need them tight enough, 10% over is no big deal. I would check each at spec then try again at 10% over on any that prove tight on first go, but stop at movement. But only 250 ft/lbs?... have you got 3/4 bolts? 1 should be 350 ft/lbs. I'm surprised he didn't suggest a torque-multi as Jim did. If you use an extension on the socket then you need to compensate for that torsion as well (depends on the length of the extension). KISS, we're closer to farm equipment standards here than race cars. :) Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 11:01 AM 17/10/2014, you wrote: Hello Listers, While on the hard want to check the nuts on the keel bolts and understand 250 lbs is needed. Boat mechanic says it is very difficult to get the proper leverage deep in the bilge. Anyone ever used a small jack and maybe also with a cheater pipe to apply side pressure against the bilge walls to move the torque wrench. Also, mechanic suggested slightly loosening the nuts first and then re-tightening. That does not sound good to me. Any thought on his suggestion. I thank any responses in advance always appreciate the help. Lloyd Lippe Finesse LF39 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List torqing keel bolts
Lloyd, Good advice from the others. Here's the link to the torque specs on the CC site: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/indexes/techndx.htm Back them off and then re-tighten. Add 10% if you lubricate them. Look to rent a torque multiplier like suggested. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:01 PM, LKL Architects via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hello Listers, While on the hard want to check the nuts on the keel bolts and understand 250 lbs is needed. Boat mechanic says it is very difficult to get the proper leverage deep in the bilge. Anyone ever used a small jack and maybe also with a cheater pipe to apply side pressure against the bilge walls to move the torque wrench. Also, mechanic suggested slightly loosening the nuts first and then re-tightening. That does not sound good to me. Any thought on his suggestion. I thank any responses in advance always appreciate the help. Lloyd Lippe Finesse LF39 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks, and All Is Lost
All Is Lost disapointed me for 25 minutes, then I switched channels, so I may not be a good judge? Couldn't stand the slow pace. Life is too short to waste time watching someone hesitate and do everything wrong. Hole in the side of boat? Stop the water coming in. Stick a cushion from a bunk into a garbage bag and brace it against the hole from inside boat. Duck tape a bag over the hole from outside? Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: edoo...@madriver.com, CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 2:49:26 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks, and All Is Lost I just watched that movie a couple of weeks ago. I didn't want to turn it off... I found myself asking, WTF is he doing now? a lot. found out it was a Cal 39 that he was on. They basically bought and destroyed 3 of them for the movie. Danny -- Original Message -- From: Ed Dooley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks, and All Is Lost Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:36:18 -0400 Farley Mowat also had the distinction of being banned from the U.S. He was getting on a plane in Toronto for a book tour in the U.S. when he was told he wasn’t allowed in. He was on a list of Anarchists, Communists, and other ne’er do wells. Not a book, but has anyone seen the sailing disaster film, All Is Lost, with Robert Redford? I had high expectations, but was pretty disappointed. Ed From: Paul Fountain p...@seasource.ca To: Richard N. Bush bushma...@aol.com , cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks Message-ID: b1e1531b-97e3-4b0b-96cf-026049d70...@seasource.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sadly Farley Mowat recently passed away. Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Sometime last spring, someone on the list mentioned that he was reading the Farley Mowat book; The Boat Who Wouldn't Float; I had never heard of Mr. Mowat, but noted that the comment was that the book was enjoyable. So I picked up a used paperback copy on ebay. I laid it aside during spring launch and other activities, and came across it a couple of weeks ago. I just finished the book and I am hooked. This was a great read and I couldn't put it down. Since I know little of the northern waters described in the book, I kept my laptop next to me and scoped out all of the places they went, which made it even more enjoyable. So thank you to whomever it was that suggested the book, I am now a Mowat fan! Richard 1985 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 584; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Butyl
You're right as usual Dwight. The ingredient listed for 216 is Xylene, same stuff. - Original Message - From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com, CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:49:53 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl Interlux Special Thinner 216 smells just like xylene, availble from most paint stores for 1/3 the price…xylene works Dwight Veinot CC 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts via CnC-List Sent: October 17, 2014 1:11 AM To: Dennis C.; 1 CnC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl Interlux Special Thinner 216 dissolves butyl beautifully and leaves no noticeable residue. I use it to prep many surfaces for painting or caulking. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 16 October 2014 20:11, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Goo Gone or similar. Final clean with denatured alcohol. BTW, denatured alcohol removes uncured, repeat uncured, 5200 well. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville , LA On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: But the question was what would remove butyl where it was not wanted. Agreed varsol and paint thinner leave an 'oily film'.why wouldn't they, they are petroleum based. But varsol and paint thinner will remove butyl and will not harm your deck paint any more than the splashing of diesel fuel we apply to our deck paint, annually! So clean any space that needs proper sealing, clean it after the butyl is removed with TSP and/or acetone if the substrate can tolerate acetone. What product would you recommend Mike use to clean his unwanted butyl ? Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/15 1:50 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List wrote: blockquote My experiance with varsol and paint thinner is that they leave residue that prevents proper sealing. --- Original Message --- From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: 15 October, 2014 11:30 AM To: Hoyt, Mike mike.h...@impgroup.com , cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Butyl Mike: Varsol or any paint thinner will clean butyl. Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. Unstepped the mast yesterday.being hauled out any day now! On 2014/10/15 10:34 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: blockquote The one thing I have always hated about Butyl was trying to remove it from where it was not wanted. Old fittings being rebidded that had been using butyl would always result in butyl stuck everywhere on non skid and nearly impossible to remove. Is there some sort of cleaner/solvent that rids us of that? Mike Still sailing in Nova Scotia on Persistence /blockquote ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com /blockquote ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8356 - Release Date: 10/09/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List sailing this weekend
Had a nice trip to Baltimore. Got in about 1530 with a nice breeze. With NW winds next two days tides will be extra low. Joe. Coquina Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2014, at 21:38, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Joe, I hope to sail this weekend. Not sure yet if I can get two days, but I'd like to make that trip? Should know tomorrow. From your comment, do you mean the strong Northerly will blow the water out of the Bay and Kent Narrows depths will be too low to risk it? Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:20:26 AM Subject: Stus-List sailing this weekend Anyone headed out? It looks like we’ll have frontal passage here Saturday night, so the plan is to go to Baltimore and then sail home with 15 knots on the stern Sunday. We were going to go to Saint Michaels, but the forecast is uphill both ways and I don’t trust Kent Narrows with a strong northerly. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List torqing keel bolts
Oops, I meant subtract 10%. Dennis C. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com wrote: Lloyd, Good advice from the others. Here's the link to the torque specs on the CC site: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/indexes/techndx.htm Back them off and then re-tighten. Add 10% if you lubricate them. Look to rent a torque multiplier like suggested. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:01 PM, LKL Architects via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hello Listers, While on the hard want to check the nuts on the keel bolts and understand 250 lbs is needed. Boat mechanic says it is very difficult to get the proper leverage deep in the bilge. Anyone ever used a small jack and maybe also with a cheater pipe to apply side pressure against the bilge walls to move the torque wrench. Also, mechanic suggested slightly loosening the nuts first and then re-tightening. That does not sound good to me. Any thought on his suggestion. I thank any responses in advance always appreciate the help. Lloyd Lippe Finesse LF39 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List How Big is my Shaft
I can't make it over to the boat today to checkdo any of our 37+/40 listers knoe how big my shaft it? Pretty usre it's 1 1/4 but want to be sure. thx Tom B -- leaving himself wide open to all sorts of stuff with a subject like that! Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal
I've had my PYI seal for 10 yrs and I've never touched it - works flawless - except to burp it when I splash in the spring. sam :-) Original Message From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:28 PM To: Eric Frank; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Re: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal I would not do it, because you would have to get new set screws and reset it in the spring. I am leaving mine intact. Marek (in Ottawa) -Original Message- From: Eric Frank via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:21 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal Practical Sailor recently posted a suggestion for winterizing the Dripless PYI shaft seal. PS said to unclamp the SS rotor from the prop shaft so the bellows could expand to its uncompressed state. I have never done this, and with the recent discussion about the set screws holding the rotor in place on the prop shaft, I wonder if it is worth it. Would be interested in what other PYI users do. I did replace the entire unit last winter; at full engine RPM I had noticed water spraying out between the rotor and the carbon flange, perhaps because the thrust of the prop pushed the shaft forward until the rotor did not make good contact with the flange. When I unclamped the rotor and slid it forward to inspect, the bellows was very stiff and there were some small pits in the carbon and the rotor surfaces. PYI recommended replacing the entire unit, which I did, and it has worked fine this summer. But it had worked flawlessly for the 8 years I owned the boat, and looked like it had been installed well before that, without doing anything to winterize it - just checking to make sure it was not leaking at the beginning of each season. So what's the feeling about following PS's suggestion? Eric Frank Cat's Paw CC 35 Mk II Mattapoisett, MA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List How Big is my Shaft
Pretty sure your right. On Oct 17, 2014 6:05 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I can't make it over to the boat today to checkdo any of our 37+/40 listers knoe how big my shaft it? Pretty usre it's 1 1/4 but want to be sure. thx Tom B -- leaving himself wide open to all sorts of stuff with a subject like that! Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List How Big is my Shaft
Tom, Propellor specs are 16 x 9 x 1 1/8 according to the manual. So maybe 1 1/8 is your number All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B CC 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 5 iPhone. iTypos. iApologize On Oct 17, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Pretty sure your right. On Oct 17, 2014 6:05 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I can't make it over to the boat today to checkdo any of our 37+/40 listers knoe how big my shaft it? Pretty usre it's 1 1/4 but want to be sure. thx Tom B -- leaving himself wide open to all sorts of stuff with a subject like that! Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal
A simple solution for the set screw issue is to use the retention collar (http://www.pyiinc.com/index.php?section=src). It uses very positive compression (i.e. large) bolts to hold on to the shaft. If you install it right behind the stainless steel bearing of the PSS, it would (almost) never move back. I think it is insurance worth its $30 price. Marek -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Petar Horvatic via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 2:17 PM To: 'Eric Frank'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal I wonder if your pits were from not using it and then oxidation or electrolysis cause carbon material to deteriorate. The more you use it the better the seal is as the carbon polishes itself out. I had leakage when my prop coupling was badly miss-aligned but once I fixed that, leakage went away. Don't forget to replace set screws every time you loosen them. I installed mine new in 2004. Had it out on 4-5 occasions at which time I would soak everything in a tupperware container with WD40 for few days then wipe it clean. Then I read this article. http://www.passagemaker.com/articles/technical/running-gear/dripless-shaft-s eals/[Marek Dziedzic] And I realized that I was probably lucky that I never had a problem. I am due for whatever overhaul kit comes for it. They don't specify the size and thread on the set screw. I have ordered a 25 pack from mcmaster 5/16-18 in 316SS, with a point set. I am yet to see how they fit. Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 CC 38MkII Newport, RI -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eric Frank via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal Practical Sailor recently posted a suggestion for winterizing the Dripless PYI shaft seal. PS said to unclamp the SS rotor from the prop shaft so the bellows could expand to its uncompressed state. I have never done this, and with the recent discussion about the set screws holding the rotor in place on the prop shaft, I wonder if it is worth it. Would be interested in what other PYI users do. I did replace the entire unit last winter; at full engine RPM I had noticed water spraying out between the rotor and the carbon flange, perhaps because the thrust of the prop pushed the shaft forward until the rotor did not make good contact with the flange. When I unclamped the rotor and slid it forward to inspect, the bellows was very stiff and there were some small pits in the carbon and the rotor surfaces. PYI recommended replacing the entire unit, which I did, and it has worked fine this summer. But it had worked flawlessly for the 8 years I owned the boat, and looked like it had been installed well before that, without doing anything to winterize it - just checking to make sure it was not leaking at the beginning of each season. So what's the feeling about following PS's suggestion? Eric Frank Cat's Paw CC 35 Mk II Mattapoisett, MA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Ebola?
Slight correction; the politicians are getting involved.. Leslie. On Thu, 10/16/14, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola? To: Wally Bryant w...@wbryant.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thursday, October 16, 2014, 5:33 PM Things are NOT OK. The government is getting involved. Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Is everybody up there okay? I hear there's a pandemicoutbreak of Ebola in the US and Canada. Wal -- s/v Stella Blue www.wbryant.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List [Bulk] Re: Ebola?
I almost unsubscribef from the group until I read your quip Keep up the good work DDrake 73 JH CC 26 On Oct 16, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: You guys can't figure out how to clean up Butyl - there's no way your going to get your heads around the Ebola crisis! sam :-) On 2014-10-16, at 6:53 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Josh, Agree. But why did they separate the two infected nurses, the ones that care for the ebola patient who died, and send them to different hospitals for care? That doubles the number of people exposed. Maybe it's for training the hospital staff? Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: w...@wbryant.com, CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:50:00 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola? Over the last 4 weeks I believe we are up to 6 total infected people 2 cured, 1 dead. By comparison 6 people per DAY die from electrocution. We need to keep it in control but it is hardly a pandemic. Oddly they are now choosing to transport an infected patient from Texas to Bethesda, MD. Seems like maybe a questionable decision. Josh Solomons, MD On Oct 16, 2014 7:36 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Is everybody up there okay? I hear there's a pandemicoutbreak of Ebola in the US and Canada. Wal -- s/v Stella Blue www.wbryant.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List torqing keel bolts
Check the amount of bolt sticking out. You may need a deep or extra deep socket. If the nut is 1 1/2 the bolt is 1 and requires 350 ft/lbs of torque. To me that would be a 1 drive and at least an 18 bar. As a start I would recommend borrowing or renting the appropriate socket, short extension and a 24 bar. Brace yourself and give it a really hard pull. 175 pounds of force is a lot, not too risky that you are going to exceed it by much. If you get any movement of the nut then you have an issue and should consider backing off the nuts, cleaning everything and torquing them correctly. If there is no movement of any of the nuts you may still want to clean and re-torque them for piece of mind. Some points to check is both the face of the nut and the matching washer need to be clean and smooth. Also square. I have a 1 drive set with deep sockets so have checked or helped re-torque a few keels. A few have been loose, maybe that way for years, but have not exhibited any problems. Michael Brown Windburn CC 30-1 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:42:57 -0700 From: Russ Melody russ...@telus.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List torqing keel bolts Message-ID: mailman.10915.1413573802.4799.cnc-list_cnc-list@cnc-list.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; Format=flowed Hi Lloyd, Sounds like you have a good mechanic. Good practice for fine work or critical assembly is back off re-torque but it's unnecessary for keelbolts. And is the spec for dry clean or lubricated? We just need them tight enough, 10% over is no big deal. I would check each at spec then try again at 10% over on any that prove tight on first go, but stop at movement. But only 250 ft/lbs?... have you got 3/4 bolts? 1 should be 350 ft/lbs. I'm surprised he didn't suggest a torque-multi as Jim did. If you use an extension on the socket then you need to compensate for that torsion as well (depends on the length of the extension). KISS, we're closer to farm equipment standards here than race cars. :) Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 11:01 AM 17/10/2014, you wrote: Hello Listers, While on the hard want to check the nuts on the keel bolts and understand 250 lbs is needed. Boat mechanic says it is very difficult to get the proper leverage deep in the bilge. Anyone ever used a small jack and maybe also with a cheater pipe to apply side pressure against the bilge walls to move the torque wrench. Also, mechanic suggested slightly loosening the nuts first and then re-tightening. That does not sound good to me. Any thought on his suggestion. I thank any responses in advance always appreciate the help. Lloyd Lippe Finesse LF39 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?
look out for ascenders with 'teeth'; they can shred the rope on a fall, and break the rope (if it is bad enough, but will ruin the rope anyhow). Gibb ascenders a lot better (more like a line clutch), we only used Gibbs in USART. Leslie. On Thu, 10/16/14, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers? To: CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com, Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com Date: Thursday, October 16, 2014, 5:39 PM Here's a couple of links to spring off of for ascender climbing. The foot ascenders look promissing. A waste strap/line can also be passed around the mast and both ends attached to the harness (one end on a carabiner for fast passing of obstructions). This is added safety to prevent accidentally twisting upside down and you slipping out of the harness or chair. This is one reason I prefer a harness. https://www.google.com/search?q=ascender+climbingoq=ascender http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascender_(climbing) http://youtube.com/watch?v=2LK20hvHQyA http://www.rockandice.com/lates-news/ascender-safety-101 Josh On Oct 16, 2014 7:58 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I’m starting my list of projects -- One of which is some mast work. Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if so, what did you use. There’s an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so it’s on my mind. And no, the transporter can’t materialize me at the top of the mast. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List All is lost.. Disapointing flick
I totally agree with Chuck. This is not a sailing movie, it's full of holes and convenient omissions like: - No EPIRB, yet had a sophisticated life raft, - No backup waterproof VHF radio ,main VHF not water proof, no GPS, no AIS. - Leaves the companion way open in a heavy storm - Aimlessly drifting around - Gets hit by the container hard enough to make a huge hole yet it was perfectly calm, still, and his engine is not running. Was there an engine running on the container? - Tacks and puts the gaping hole to leeward therefore getting the hole in the drink, with un-trimmed sails, shouldn't he had kept it to windward and keep it dry while figuring out what to do? He was while sailing around aimlessly anyway.. - Etc, etc, etc I guess he gets some credit for conveying all the emotions without saying a single word the whole movie.. -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, Georgia ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List How Big is my Shaft
Just measured my shaft. It's 1 1/4. On Oct 17, 2014 6:05 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I can't make it over to the boat today to checkdo any of our 37+/40 listers knoe how big my shaft it? Pretty usre it's 1 1/4 but want to be sure. thx Tom B -- leaving himself wide open to all sorts of stuff with a subject like that! Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Ebola?
You could be right... Yanni Boatless in Ontario Not for long. 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S SCRC 011059 SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!! Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes? Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Russ Melody via CnC-List Sent: October 17, 2014 12:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola? Yanni, looking at cartoons is not really reading :) https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10678811_947 676645253347_5299347798631232381_n.jpg?oh=c0673d63d85a52310d1f0f68c7bcaf82 https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10678811_94 7676645253347_5299347798631232381_n.jpg?oh=c0673d63d85a52310d1f0f68c7bcaf82 oe=54BAFD3B__gda__=1420776167_2dbbff97e2098d371df4cc407ed007e8 oe=54BAFD3B__gda__=1420776167_2dbbff97e2098d371df4cc407ed007e8 To keep this sailing related, this guy looks like one of AG's cockpit crew. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 Wet Coast, Colony of V.I., kinda damp right now At 05:02 PM 16/10/2014, you wrote: From what I've read there are 30 people die from obesity every year, 8 from smoking, 15000 from alcohol, and I don'r know how many from hunger and other reasons. I think it is another way to divert our minds from politics and what has been done wrong and it is being done wrong everyday, and stir some I don't know what. Yanni Boatless in Ontario Not for long ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List All is lost.. Disapointing flick
Movie was 1980s technology. I thought it was excellent and conveyed the sense of individual courage in a period of desperation and impending doom. The boat was allegorical. The ending scene was from Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel. Jerry Sent from my iPhone On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I totally agree with Chuck. This is not a sailing movie, it's full of holes and convenient omissions like: - No EPIRB, yet had a sophisticated life raft, - No backup waterproof VHF radio ,main VHF not water proof, no GPS, no AIS. - Leaves the companion way open in a heavy storm - Aimlessly drifting around - Gets hit by the container hard enough to make a huge hole yet it was perfectly calm, still, and his engine is not running. Was there an engine running on the container? - Tacks and puts the gaping hole to leeward therefore getting the hole in the drink, with un-trimmed sails, shouldn't he had kept it to windward and keep it dry while figuring out what to do? He was while sailing around aimlessly anyway.. - Etc, etc, etc I guess he gets some credit for conveying all the emotions without saying a single word the whole movie.. -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, Georgia ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List How Big is my Shaft
They say this cat Shaft is a bad mother SHUT YOUR MOUTH! I'm talkin' 'bout Shaft. THEN WE CAN DIG IT! Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2014-10-17 8:52 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: Just measured my shaft. It's 1 1/4. On Oct 17, 2014 6:05 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I can't make it over to the boat today to checkdo any of our 37+/40 listers knoe how big my shaft it? Pretty usre it's 1 1/4 but want to be sure. thx Tom B -- leaving himself wide open to all sorts of stuff with a subject like that! Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 tel:%28206%29%20463-9200 www.sv-alera.com http://www.sv-alera.com/ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List All is lost.. Disapointing flick
It upset me that after the storm he stepped back aboard the 3/4 sunk boat in a dead calm and instead of trying to pump out and save her, he stepped into the life raft. But to the movies credit this was not a how to movie. This was a story of one man and what he did, right or wrong. Nobody ever said he was an educated sailor nor was it implied. There are a lot of boneheads and credit card captains who venture offshore and haven't the slightest idea how to cope when things go sideways. That being said it's not exactly on my like list of sailing cinema. Brent 27-5 Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Movie was 1980s technology. I thought it was excellent and conveyed the sense of individual courage in a period of desperation and impending doom. The boat was allegorical. The ending scene was from Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel. Jerry Sent from my iPhone On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I totally agree with Chuck. This is not a sailing movie, it's full of holes and convenient omissions like: - No EPIRB, yet had a sophisticated life raft, - No backup waterproof VHF radio ,main VHF not water proof, no GPS, no AIS. - Leaves the companion way open in a heavy storm - Aimlessly drifting around - Gets hit by the container hard enough to make a huge hole yet it was perfectly calm, still, and his engine is not running. Was there an engine running on the container? - Tacks and puts the gaping hole to leeward therefore getting the hole in the drink, with un-trimmed sails, shouldn't he had kept it to windward and keep it dry while figuring out what to do? He was while sailing around aimlessly anyway.. - Etc, etc, etc I guess he gets some credit for conveying all the emotions without saying a single word the whole movie.. -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, Georgia ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?
This is how I'm setting up next year using a Grigri. It makes a great ascender / descender. Check it out. http://youtu.be/BkErYrEWOMA Brent 27-5 Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Listers, Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I’m starting my list of projects -- One of which is some mast work. Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if so, what did you use. There’s an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so it’s on my mind. And no, the transporter can’t materialize me at the top of the mast. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks, and All Is Lost
Ed, I don't think I have heard of Farley Mowat and I am sorry to hear he passed. I have watched that movie and it brought some old sad memories. I don't know what you were expecting to see. I was in almost the same situation in a life-raft for three days after a freighter run me over overnight between Malta and Sicilia. It was 1976 That movie was not an adventure to watch over a bowl of popcorn, it was about surrender. Yanni Boatless in Ontario Not for long. 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S SCRC 011059 SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!! Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes? Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ed Dooley via CnC-List Sent: October 17, 2014 2:36 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks, and All Is Lost Farley Mowat also had the distinction of being banned from the U.S. He was getting on a plane in Toronto for a book tour in the U.S. when he was told he wasn't allowed in. He was on a list of Anarchists, Communists, and other ne'er do wells. Not a book, but has anyone seen the sailing disaster film, All Is Lost, with Robert Redford? I had high expectations, but was pretty disappointed. Ed From: Paul Fountain p...@seasource.ca mailto:p...@seasource.ca To: Richard N. Bush bushma...@aol.com mailto:bushma...@aol.com , cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks Message-ID: b1e1531b-97e3-4b0b-96cf-026049d70...@seasource.ca mailto:b1e1531b-97e3-4b0b-96cf-026049d70...@seasource.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sadly Farley Mowat recently passed away. Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Sometime last spring, someone on the list mentioned that he was reading the Farley Mowat book; The Boat Who Wouldn't Float; I had never heard of Mr. Mowat, but noted that the comment was that the book was enjoyable. So I picked up a used paperback copy on ebay. I laid it aside during spring launch and other activities, and came across it a couple of weeks ago. I just finished the book and I am hooked. This was a great read and I couldn't put it down. Since I know little of the northern waters described in the book, I kept my laptop next to me and scoped out all of the places they went, which made it even more enjoyable. So thank you to whomever it was that suggested the book, I am now a Mowat fan! Richard 1985 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 584; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Torquing keel nuts
Torquing keel bolts to 250 ft. lbs. is a bit of a workout but certainly within the means of the average physically fit person. As long as you have an extension from the torque wrench to the socket that is long enough to get the torque wrench above the cabin sole, it shouldn't be a problem. I check mine every year without the help of a cheater bar or jack and I'm not a particularly strong person. 62 yrs. old, 5'-11 185 lbs.and have never seen the inside of a gym. If you are having a problem, a helping hand from a friend will make it much simpler than a jack. Loosing the nuts is not a problem. Loosen one at a time. Ted Drossos CC 29-2 H2OT Long Island, NY ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Ebola
-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20141017/1ad3df1d/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:25:57 -0400 From: Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List torqing keel bolts Message-ID: 541211282-12...@mail.tkg.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Check the amount of bolt sticking out. You may need a deep or extra deep socket. If the nut is 1 1/2 the bolt is 1 and requires 350 ft/lbs of torque. To me that would be a 1 drive and at least an 18 bar. As a start I would recommend borrowing or renting the appropriate socket, short extension and a 24 bar. Brace yourself and give it a really hard pull. 175 pounds of force is a lot, not too risky that you are going to exceed it by much. If you get any movement of the nut then you have an issue and should consider backing off the nuts, cleaning everything and torquing them correctly. If there is no movement of any of the nuts you may still want to clean and re-torque them for piece of mind. Some points to check is both the face of the nut and the matching washer need to be clean and smooth. Also square. I have a 1 drive set with deep sockets so have checked or helped re-torque a few keels. A few have been loose, maybe that way for years, but have not exhibited any problems. Michael Brown Windburn CC 30-1 ? Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:42:57 -0700 From: Russ Melody russ...@telus.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List torqing keel bolts Message-ID: ? ? mailman.10915.1413573802.4799.cnc-list_cnc-list@cnc-list.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; Format=flowed Hi Lloyd, Sounds like you have a good mechanic. Good practice for fine work or critical assembly is back off re-torque but it's unnecessary for keelbolts. And is the spec for dry clean or lubricated? We just need them tight enough, 10% over is no big deal. I would check each at spec then try again at 10% over on any that prove tight on first go, but stop at movement. But only 250 ft/lbs?... have you got 3/4 bolts? 1 should be 350 ft/lbs. I'm surprised he didn't suggest a torque-multi as Jim did. If you use an extension on the socket then you need to compensate for that torsion as well (depends on the length of the extension). KISS, we're closer to farm equipment standards here than race cars. :) ? ? ? ? Cheers, Russ ? ? ? ? Sweet 35 mk-1 At 11:01 AM 17/10/2014, you wrote: Hello Listers, While on the hard want to check the nuts on the keel bolts and understand 250 lbs is needed. ?Boat mechanic says it is very difficult to get the proper leverage deep in the bilge. ?Anyone ever used a small jack and maybe also with a cheater pipe to apply side pressure against the bilge walls to move the torque wrench. Also, mechanic suggested slightly loosening the nuts first and then re-tightening. ?That does not sound good to me. ?Any thought on his suggestion. I thank any responses in advance always appreciate the help. Lloyd Lippe Finesse LF39 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20141017/da6c1d90/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:27:03 -0700 From: Leslie Paal lpaalc...@yahoo.com To: Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers? Message-ID: 1413588423.83557.yahoomailba...@web121704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 look out for ascenders with 'teeth'; they can shred the rope on a fall, and break the rope (if it is bad enough, but will ruin the rope anyhow). Gibb ascenders a lot better (more like a line clutch), we only used Gibbs in USART. Leslie. On Thu, 10/16/14, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers? To: CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com, Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com Date: Thursday, October 16, 2014, 5:39 PM Here's a couple of links to spring off of for ascender climbing.? The foot ascenders look promissing. A waste strap/line can also be passed around the mast and both ends attached to the harness (one end on a carabiner for fast passing of obstructions).? This is added safety to prevent accidentally twisting upside down and you slipping out of the harness or chair.? This is one reason I prefer a harness. https://www.google.com/search?q=ascender+climbingoq=ascender http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascender_
Stus-List drive strut
Rich: And let's not forget the 'green labeled' 3M poly resin has 'MARINE' versus AUTOMOTIVE' stamped on it...that must make it worth 4X$$. Kind of like: Interlux Special Thinner 216 smells just like xylene, available from most paint stores for 1/3 the price Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/17 9:13 PM, Rich Knowles wrote: Rob: Those green labels are very expensive to make and a lot classier. Rich On Oct 17, 2014, at 15:29, Robert Abbott via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Douglas: You already have had good advice from the CC listers. No new advice from me but here is what we did with the same situation you are experiencing. When we bought our boat in 2006, the strut base had a fine hairline crack. We decided to dig out all the filler, mainly to check the nuts/bolts and related structure holding the 'strut'. All was O.Kbut now we know.the hairline crack was probably caused by vibration from a worn cutlass bearing..no big dealwe replaced the cutlass bearing and refilled the strut base with I think, polyester resinif I can remember it took two litre cans I bought at Canadian Tire for $10 per litre versus $50 per litre at the Binnacle.exact same resin made by 3Mone in a red label for $10 and the other in a green labeled can for $50. Nine seasons later, still no new hairline cracks. Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/17 1:30 PM, Douglas via CnC-List wrote: I had my 38 hauled out to have some glass work done on the knife edge of the transom, because some moron bumped it (300-ft space between docks). While it was up on sticks I figured I get some work done, like zincs, grease the maxi prop, etc. I notice something with my strut. I have moisture around the base of the strut, in the form of a square. Strut seems to be tight, to the untrained eye. I understand after they are installed (bolted up) they are glazed in, using epoxy or fairing or a combination, possibly even glassed in (rare). The cause can be vibration from misalignment, worn cutlass bearing or loose bolts or again any combination. Anyone ever have this issue and have some suggestions. I believe the filler to smooth it out is cracked. Thanks Larry ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks, and All Is Lost
Yes I have to agree here and also when he had that hole in the hull from the container . He kept heeling the boat over only to see water pouring into the cabin It reminds me of Einsteins definition of insanity when you repeat the same procedure over and over again expecting to see a different result Isn't that something as sailboat owners we are all guilty of ! Haha just tryin to be funny and of course the main character made plenty of mistakes but that's Hollywood Also Yanni please can you elaborate on this situation a bit more on how you got yourself in this situation of being run down etc. sounds like a real story unlike Hollywood maybe something we can all learn something from Thanks in advance Dan 1970 corvette 31 Hull # 148 Sent from my iPhone On Oct 17, 2014, at 8:47 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Ed, I don’t think I have heard of Farley Mowat and I am sorry to hear he passed. I have watched that movie and it brought some old sad memories. I don’t know what you were expecting to see. I was in almost the same situation in a life-raft for three days after a freighter run me over overnight between Malta and Sicilia. It was 1976 That movie was not an adventure to watch over a bowl of popcorn, it was about surrender. Yanni Boatless in Ontario Not for long… 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S SCRC 011059 SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!! Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes? Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ed Dooley via CnC-List Sent: October 17, 2014 2:36 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks, and All Is Lost Farley Mowat also had the distinction of being banned from the U.S. He was getting on a plane in Toronto for a book tour in the U.S. when he was told he wasn’t allowed in. He was on a list of Anarchists, Communists, and other ne’er do wells. Not a book, but has anyone seen the sailing disaster film, All Is Lost, with Robert Redford? I had high expectations, but was pretty disappointed. Ed From: Paul Fountain p...@seasource.ca To: Richard N. Bush bushma...@aol.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks Message-ID: b1e1531b-97e3-4b0b-96cf-026049d70...@seasource.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sadly Farley Mowat recently passed away. Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Sometime last spring, someone on the list mentioned that he was reading the Farley Mowat book; The Boat Who Wouldn't Float; I had never heard of Mr. Mowat, but noted that the comment was that the book was enjoyable. So I picked up a used paperback copy on ebay. I laid it aside during spring launch and other activities, and came across it a couple of weeks ago. I just finished the book and I am hooked. This was a great read and I couldn't put it down. Since I know little of the northern waters described in the book, I kept my laptop next to me and scoped out all of the places they went, which made it even more enjoyable. So thank you to whomever it was that suggested the book, I am now a Mowat fan! Richard 1985 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 584; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Torquing keel nuts
Thanks Ted.to you and Michael and Dennis and again.Russ and JimI so appreciate all your helpful input. The mechanic loaned me his 250 lb torque wrench, along with extensions and yes...a deep socket, so I think I am loaded up. Dennis thank you for clarifying the 10%sure sounds much better. Now ready to go forward.and thanks againall. Lloyd Lippe Finesse LF 39 Rockport, Tx - Original Message - From: Ted Drossos via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:53 PM Subject: Stus-List Torquing keel nuts Torquing keel bolts to 250 ft. lbs. is a bit of a workout but certainly within the means of the average physically fit person. As long as you have an extension from the torque wrench to the socket that is long enough to get the torque wrench above the cabin sole, it shouldn't be a problem. I check mine every year without the help of a cheater bar or jack and I'm not a particularly strong person. 62 yrs. old, 5'-11 185 lbs.and have never seen the inside of a gym. If you are having a problem, a helping hand from a friend will make it much simpler than a jack. Loosing the nuts is not a problem. Loosen one at a time. Ted Drossos CC 29-2 H2OT Long Island, NY -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com