Stus-List Tools on Board
Mike: You would think that Graham would give us a set of set sockets and help lighten his boat.with 260 pieces, he must have 3 of everything. And if you need to 'borrow' any of Graham's sockets, there is a bolt cutter on AZURA. Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On the NW Arm between Graham's and Mike's boats. On 2015-06-17 5:46 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List wrote: Hey Mike So if your mast breaks how do you cut the rigging away? If you had a bolt cutter on board you'd be set for that risk, plus it would make it easier to break into my boat to steal my socket set. Sorry, borrow... :-) I'm all about having too many tools on board, just not electric ones. A friend insisted we clear out the boat prior to a race, it was an illuminating experience. I managed to talk her out of removing the windlass though. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-17 10:33 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: When I need sockets I just motor a quarter mile down the NW Arm to where I know there is a 260 piece socket set…… Seriously though. In 2009 was doing a home project and purchased a Ryobi 9v and then found a DeWalt 12v on sale. Used both drills while installing new flooring that had to be screwed every 6 inches (for under tile) and would swap one dewalt battery while other charging and then use the ryobi while both those charging. The Ryobi would last only a very short time and has long since been scrapped. The 12v DeWalt has been used for many projects and the first battery started not holding much charge last Spring while the second is still fine. The 12v DeWalt has been a great drill for me (this past December replaced with 18v DeWalt). Nothing but good to say about it and it was NiCad I do not leave a drill on the boat. I have a smallish toolbox with 6 screwdrivers (2 phillips, 2 robertson, two slot), one multhead screw driver, a couple pair of various pliers, a couple adjustable wrenches, allan keys and a pair of vice grips .. as well as pne hammer (don’t know why). Also a smallish socket set. As I said – if I need more sockets I know where Graham is moored I do believe you need tools aboard because things break on boats … and also you never know on a boat when the mood will hit you to take on some small task which always turns out to be a much bigger job than expected. Mike Persistence Just up the NW Arm from Graham’s boat in Halifax ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Queen's Cup Race
I am not familiar with the Queen's Cup Race; could you share more information about it? It's history and inception , then course, and naturally, the CC involvement? Thanks Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River; Mile 584; awaiting Tropical Storm/depression Bill Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Jim Reinardy via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jim Reinardy firewa...@reinardy.us Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2015 3:11 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Marion Bermuda race Neil, Best of luck to you and Glenn. The Queen’s Cup can be a very fun race with good conditions. I have a lot of friends from this side of the lake that do it every year. Jim Reinardy CC 30-2 “Firewater” Milwaukee, WI Sent from Windows Mail From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 1:53 PM To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Cc: schiller Our own Glenn Gambel will be sailing his CC 36 in the Queens Cup (Milwaukee to South Haven, Mi) next week. I am going to crew for him (Not much rail meat since I lost 75 lbs, but I can still grind a winch). We leave White Lake, Mi Tuesday night for an overnight across the lake and then race back to South Haven leaving Friday night. No tracking, but I'll update the list when we get in to South Haven (my home port). Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (CC 35, Mark I) South Haven Michigan To change your list preferences, includingunsubscribing -- go to the bottom of pageat:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Queen's Cup Race
Hi Richard, The history of the cup itself is here: http://ssyc.org/queens-cup/qchistory General information about the race is at http://ssyc.org/queens-cup/queens-cup-home The race is a bit unique in that it starts at 6PM on a Friday night and goes across Lake Michigan, so most of the racing is in the dark. It always originates at South Shore Yacht Club in Milwaukee (where I am a member), but the finish moves from year to year on the Michigan side. This year it finishes at South Haven, which is southeast of Milwaukee, but has gone as far north as Ludington, with Muskegon also being a common destination. Race distances vary from about 75-90 miles depending on the finish port. This is the 77th year of the race, with the cup itself having a longer history as explained in the link above. No direct CC involvement, but there are always a number of them participating. One of these years I am going to get moving on preparation and crew recruitment and do it on our 30-2. I have done the QC on other boats in past years though. Jim Reinardy 1988 CC 30-2 “Firewater” Milwaukee, WI Sent from Windows Mail From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:41 AM To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Cc: Richard N. Bush I am not familiar with the Queen's Cup Race; could you share more information about it? It's history and inception , then course, and naturally, the CC involvement? Thanks Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River; Mile 584; awaiting Tropical Storm/depression Bill Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Jim Reinardy via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jim Reinardy firewa...@reinardy.us Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2015 3:11 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Marion Bermuda race Neil, Best of luck to you and Glenn. The Queen’s Cup can be a very fun race with good conditions. I have a lot of friends from this side of the lake that do it every year. Jim Reinardy CC 30-2 “Firewater” Milwaukee, WI Sent from Windows Mail From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 1:53 PM To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Cc: schiller Our own Glenn Gambel will be sailing his CC 36 in the Queens Cup (Milwaukee to South Haven, Mi) next week. I am going to crew for him (Not much rail meat since I lost 75 lbs, but I can still grind a winch). We leave White Lake, Mi Tuesday night for an overnight across the lake and then race back to South Haven leaving Friday night. No tracking, but I'll update the list when we get in to South Haven (my home port). Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (CC 35, Mark I) South Haven Michigan To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
Graham Yes I have bolt cutters that are normally on board and were always on our J27 Nut Case. For some reason they are still on my work bench at home though ... As for weight .. we just removed electric winches and replaced with Lewmar ST 40 manual winches. Was not about the weight though but these things are very heavy! Someone else wanted them and they were completely out of place on our boat and actually a hinderance for sail handling when racing (used as manuals but very stiff). We just finished our Wednesday Spring series and are moving back to the CC 115 Koobalibra for next week. Now I am allowed to put the BBQ, Bimini, Dodger and the other fun things back aboard. Talk of baking cookies and grilling something during the Harbour Race in two weeks. Mike Persistence .. done racing til Fall Halifax From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Graham Collins via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 5:47 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Graham Collins Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill Hey Mike So if your mast breaks how do you cut the rigging away? If you had a bolt cutter on board you'd be set for that risk, plus it would make it easier to break into my boat to steal my socket set. Sorry, borrow... :-) I'm all about having too many tools on board, just not electric ones. A friend insisted we clear out the boat prior to a race, it was an illuminating experience. I managed to talk her out of removing the windlass though. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-17 10:33 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: When I need sockets I just motor a quarter mile down the NW Arm to where I know there is a 260 piece socket set.. Seriously though. In 2009 was doing a home project and purchased a Ryobi 9v and then found a DeWalt 12v on sale. Used both drills while installing new flooring that had to be screwed every 6 inches (for under tile) and would swap one dewalt battery while other charging and then use the ryobi while both those charging. The Ryobi would last only a very short time and has long since been scrapped. The 12v DeWalt has been used for many projects and the first battery started not holding much charge last Spring while the second is still fine. The 12v DeWalt has been a great drill for me (this past December replaced with 18v DeWalt). Nothing but good to say about it and it was NiCad I do not leave a drill on the boat. I have a smallish toolbox with 6 screwdrivers (2 phillips, 2 robertson, two slot), one multhead screw driver, a couple pair of various pliers, a couple adjustable wrenches, allan keys and a pair of vice grips .. as well as pne hammer (don't know why). Also a smallish socket set. As I said - if I need more sockets I know where Graham is moored I do believe you need tools aboard because things break on boats ... and also you never know on a boat when the mood will hit you to take on some small task which always turns out to be a much bigger job than expected. Mike Persistence Just up the NW Arm from Graham's boat in Halifax From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Martin DeYoung Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill ... What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? Ever since cordless drill batteries size and performance became reasonably useful (mid-80's?) I carry one on any trip longer than a day sail and especially offshore. Used for repairs, both drilling holes and removing/installing fasteners they earn their keep. If you purchase L-Ion batteries and travel with your equipment, the US airlines are now restricting L-Ion batteries to carry on, not to be in checked luggage. This includes spare cell phone and laptop batteries. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 3:58 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Stevan Plavsa Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill Speaking for myself I bought the ryobi because I saw the deal and I'm on a wet mooring. Rowing my tools out kinda sucks to be honest so I keep a set on board. Also, time is money right? Inevitably I forget to bring something. If it's all on board I'm good. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: OK, I've got to ask. I love tool as much as the next guy, maybe more (ask me how many saws I own). What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? All season? When I'm working on the boat I will bring whatever drill is appropriate (the corded right angle drill
Re: Stus-List Strengthening Drop Leaf Table Supports
Is it possible that one side released putting all the load on the one that failed? If so you may want to add barrel locks to prevent someone from accidentally knocking one side loose. Don Newman 905 547 1750 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Queen's Cup Race - old races
77 years is quite a history. There are several historical races around. In my area, last weekend saw the 166th running of the Race to the Coast. The first one was held in 1849. Oldest in the Western Hemisphere. The race starts inside Lake Pontchartrain and finishes in Mississippi Sound off Gulfport. Boats must race through The Rigolets, the somewhat narrow river-like outlet from Lake Pontchartrain. That presents unusual challenges in that, in addition to the winding waterway, there are three opening bridges, two railroad bridges and one vehicle bridge. Boats are allow to take bridge time if they are delayed by a closed bridge. Below is a compilation of still pics from the race. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggCWSDsltEA No CC's this year but there were two Newport 41's. Results for the interested: http://www.southernyachtclub.org/files/2015%20R2C%20Scoring.pdf Tomorrow is the Gulfport to Pensacola Race. I had to cancel Touche's participation this year due to my recovery from surgery. :( Weather for the race looks great. *FRIDAY* SOUTH WINDS 5 TO 10 KNOTS. WAVES 1 TO 2 FEET DOMINANT PERIOD 5 SECONDS. SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. *FRIDAY NIGHT* SOUTHWEST WINDS 5 TO 10 KNOTS. WAVES 1 TO 2 FEET DOMINANT PERIOD 5 SECONDS. *SATURDAY* SOUTHWEST WINDS 10 TO 15 KNOTS. WAVES 1 TO 2 FEET DOMINANT PERIOD 5 SECONDS. SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The history of the cup itself is here: http://ssyc.org/queens-cup/qchistory General information about the race is at http://ssyc.org/queens-cup/queens-cup-home The race is a bit unique in that it starts at 6PM on a Friday night and goes across Lake Michigan, so most of the racing is in the dark. It always originates at South Shore Yacht Club in Milwaukee (where I am a member), but the finish moves from year to year on the Michigan side. This year it finishes at South Haven, which is southeast of Milwaukee, but has gone as far north as Ludington, with Muskegon also being a common destination. Race distances vary from about 75-90 miles depending on the finish port. This is the 77th year of the race, with the cup itself having a longer history as explained in the link above. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Emergency tiller squeeking
I would suggest LPS-2 as superior to either WD-40 or Silicone spray in this application. Silicone sprays usually contain very low amounts of silicone, and are mostly just comprised of petroleum Distillates, as is WD-40. LPS1 (low viscosity version that leaves a slippery dry film) and LPS 2 are widely used by aircraft manufacturers, and others with more serious requirements for lasting lubrication. Surprisingly, it is widely available in Auto-parts and hardware stores. Even Walmart carries it! Bill Bina On 6/18/2015 10:57 AM, Mitchell's via CnC-List wrote: Robert, If the 3 in 1 oil you used stops working, try spray silicone. It's supposed to be the best lube for Delrin plastic. It's the same material as the ball bearings in roller furlings and WD40 or silicone spray work best there too. If it's a long term problem I would get a new bearing machined. It can't be that expensive and others have replaced theirs. It would drive me nuts listening to a squeek in a quiet anchorage as the rudder moves with waves. Len Mitchell CC 37+ Midland On Sent from my mobile device. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List What Model Have I?
An actual traveller for the mainsheet (usually about a foot back from the companion way) is one of the best upgrades you can make for the boat. At least, if you want her to sail well. Usually, the admirals hate it because it hits your shins every time you try entering the cabin. Not to mention that it moves the placement of the main sheet and it works much better for single handling. Marek ex 1975 CC 24 “Fennel” Ottawa From: Russ Melody via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:19 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Russ Melody Subject: Re: Stus-List What Model Have I? Wow. Look at the mainsheet traveller in the brochure. I remember those. Ha, kids these days... Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 (means first run off the lot) At 03:58 PM 17/06/2015, you wrote: The 24 had 3 models standard, Niagara and Competition. http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/brochures/24foot/24b1pg01.htm Stu Former 24 CC Competition Owner From: Paul Baker via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:25 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Paul Baker Subject: Re: Stus-List What Model Have I? You have a CC24. They had no models, marks or names. All that changed over the boats life was the interior layout. The Niagara is a different boat. Cheers, Paul. 27 MkII Former 24 owner. Sidney, BC Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:31:33 -0400 To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List What Model Have I? From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com CC: flasp...@dynamagic.com On the bigger boats, I see many of you post the length, and a model name. Some vessels have the same manufacture year and LOA, but come from different model designs. Of my 1975 24, I have found only one model, the /Niagara/, but a look at the layout shows that mine is not a /Niagara/. I have the original owners manual, and nowhere do I find a model variant. Nothing on the title, and nothing in a casual web search. The subject came up when I applied for insurance with Allstate and they asked for a make and model. They were happy with CC 24 but it got me wondering what model variants of the 24' were offered, besides the above-mentioned /Niagara/? -- Andrew Frame CC 24, #43 Lehigh Acres/Alva, FL ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Queen's Cup Race
The Queen's cup was traditionally run from Milwaukee to Muskegon but has branched out to other harbors recently. It is a fairly old race (this year is the 77th) and is an overnight drag race across the lake. Frequently a single set of sails, many times a Spinnaker run. This year the course is a little more SW and will probably be a single sail setting but probably not a spinnaker run (unless the wind is out of the Northwest). It is organized by the South Shore Yacht Club in Milwaukee and the South Haven host is South Haven Yacht Club (I am not a member of either). There are 11 CC's entered on the web site, CC 115, CC 110, CC 99 (2), CC 40-2, CC 39, CC 36 (2), CC 33-2, CC 30-2, CC 30. Boats range from an Andrews 77 (-144 PHRF) to an Erickson 27 (238 PHRF). A lot of boats will do the Tripp Cup from South Haven to Milwaukee on Wednesday and then back with the Queen's Cup of Friday. This will be my first time crossing the lake. Should be interesting. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (CC 35, Mark I) South Haven, Mi On 6/18/2015 8:41 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List wrote: I am not familiar with the Queen's Cup Race; could you share more information about it? It's history and inception , then course, and naturally, the CC involvement? Thanks Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River; Mile 584; awaiting Tropical Storm/depression Bill Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Jim Reinardy via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jim Reinardy firewa...@reinardy.us Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2015 3:11 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Marion Bermuda race Neil, Best of luck to you and Glenn. The Queen’s Cup can be a very fun race with good conditions. I have a lot of friends from this side of the lake that do it every year. Jim Reinardy CC 30-2 “Firewater” Milwaukee, WI Sent from Windows Mail *From:* Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 1:53 PM *To:* Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* schiller mailto:schil...@bloomingdalecom.net Our own Glenn Gambel will be sailing his CC 36 in the Queens Cup (Milwaukee to South Haven, Mi) next week. I am going to crew for him (Not much rail meat since I lost 75 lbs, but I can still grind a winch). We leave White Lake, Mi Tuesday night for an overnight across the lake and then race back to South Haven leaving Friday night. No tracking, but I'll update the list when we get in to South Haven (my home port). Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (CC 35, Mark I) South Haven Michigan To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Emergency tiller squeeking
Robert, If the 3 in 1 oil you used stops working, try spray silicone. It's supposed to be the best lube for Delrin plastic. It's the same material as the ball bearings in roller furlings and WD40 or silicone spray work best there too. If it's a long term problem I would get a new bearing machined. It can't be that expensive and others have replaced theirs. It would drive me nuts listening to a squeek in a quiet anchorage as the rudder moves with waves. Len Mitchell CC 37+ Midland On Sent from my mobile device. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories
If the story teller was Texas John then it was the '77 delivery back from Hawaii following our 1st Transpac as a crew on the CC 39 Midnight Special. That delivery was one of my favorite of my 4 east bound Hawaii deliveries. Great weather and crew, reading in the cockpit by moon light, 2 weeks on one tack, getting ready for night watch by putting on a T-shirt, and teaching the crew the words to Jimmy Buffett's Cheeseburger in Paradise. We hit the dock at Shilshole around dawn on a weekday. By 9AM we were loaded into my 1969 Ford Econoline van headed to one of the crew's lakeside houses for a party. It was a great year to be young, single, and hooked on offshore sailing. The one thing that would have improved it would be to know what I now know about offshore fishing under sail. Back in 77 no one on the crew knew how to catch tuna and mahi mahi. With what I learned on later Hawaii deliveries we could have been eating like kings most of the trip back to Seattle. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 3:51 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories Martin, as you may have guessed, my pal describing the event was John Dennison. Somehow your name came up and he told the story. I thought it too good not to share! Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Jun 18, 2015, at 00:44, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Andrew, Which CC 39 and year? In the late 70's there was 4 or 5 active 39s racing in the PNW. Many of the crews would hang out together after racing and tell sea stories. The names Blackwatch and Mistress come to mind. The Midnight Special set a Vic Maui record for boats under 40' in either 74 or 76 under its original ownership, Steve Crary IIRC. I did a similar thing sailing a CC 39 (the Midnight Special under its 2nd owner) sailing back to Seattle from a Transpac 77. I dove over for a baseball sized glass float. I took the crew a few moments to drop the spinnaker and turn around. I could not see the boat for about 10 minutes but I was young and a good swimmer. We were +- 1,000 miles from dry land. I have 9 glass floats picked up while delivering boats back from Hawaii. That baseball sized one is the smallest, the largest is the size of a small beach ball. My wife has them nicely displayed in our home. The bigger floats always had a beard of sea life hanging below the water's surface. The big float still had its netting attached which allowed extra sea life to attach. When I extended out from the deck to grab the float it almost pulled me off the boat. Another crew grabbed my legs allowing me to hold onto the float until the boat slowed more. I cut off the netting and returned it to the sea. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Andrew Burton via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:41 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories So I just had dinner with an old mate of mine and he had a great story about sailing a CC 39 back to Seattle from Maui a few decades ago. Japanese fishermen used to have these beautiful blown glass fishing floats that would occasionally get away and were highly valued by sailors. They were reaching along with the kite up when my friend, who was driving, and his watch mate saw one the size of a basketball. The watch mate tried to grab it but missed. So he called man overboard! and jumped in after it. My friend stopped the boat by going head to wind as the rest of the guys ran on deck. They retrieved the glass ball and then their errant crewman. Apparently the owner was quite impressed! :) Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Tools on Board
No worries. With all this talk I took the set home, all that is left is a couple of rusty screwdrivers, a hammer, and vice grips. And the bolt cutters... :-) Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-18 9:32 AM, robert via CnC-List wrote: Mike: You would think that Graham would give us a set of set sockets and help lighten his boat.with 260 pieces, he must have 3 of everything. And if you need to 'borrow' any of Graham's sockets, there is a bolt cutter on AZURA. Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On the NW Arm between Graham's and Mike's boats. On 2015-06-17 5:46 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List wrote: Hey Mike So if your mast breaks how do you cut the rigging away? If you had a bolt cutter on board you'd be set for that risk, plus it would make it easier to break into my boat to steal my socket set. Sorry, borrow... :-) I'm all about having too many tools on board, just not electric ones. A friend insisted we clear out the boat prior to a race, it was an illuminating experience. I managed to talk her out of removing the windlass though. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-17 10:33 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: When I need sockets I just motor a quarter mile down the NW Arm to where I know there is a 260 piece socket set…… Seriously though. In 2009 was doing a home project and purchased a Ryobi 9v and then found a DeWalt 12v on sale. Used both drills while installing new flooring that had to be screwed every 6 inches (for under tile) and would swap one dewalt battery while other charging and then use the ryobi while both those charging. The Ryobi would last only a very short time and has long since been scrapped. The 12v DeWalt has been used for many projects and the first battery started not holding much charge last Spring while the second is still fine. The 12v DeWalt has been a great drill for me (this past December replaced with 18v DeWalt). Nothing but good to say about it and it was NiCad I do not leave a drill on the boat. I have a smallish toolbox with 6 screwdrivers (2 phillips, 2 robertson, two slot), one multhead screw driver, a couple pair of various pliers, a couple adjustable wrenches, allan keys and a pair of vice grips .. as well as pne hammer (don’t know why). Also a smallish socket set. As I said – if I need more sockets I know where Graham is moored I do believe you need tools aboard because things break on boats … and also you never know on a boat when the mood will hit you to take on some small task which always turns out to be a much bigger job than expected. Mike Persistence Just up the NW Arm from Graham’s boat in Halifax ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips?
The offshore fishing set up that worked well for me is: +- 200' of 100 lb. or 200 lb. test fishing line stored on a large enough spool (old lead wire spool work great) to be easily handled. +- 3' of stronger leader, often a SS braid A 3 prong hook (AKA big a** #2 or #3 treble hook) A 12 length of double braid sailing line, preferably white with red and blue color woven in. +- 3' of large diameter bungee cord Fabricate a lure from the double braid line by passing the leader and hook through the center of the double braid, whip the top of the double braid tight to the leader with the hook approx. in the middle of the length of braid. Fray the double braid up to the hook or a little past. Be sure the braid is large enough in diameter to camouflage the hook as much as possible. The goal is to make the frayed double braid look and act like a flying fish or squid. Attach the leader to the fishing line. Drop the lure/hook into the water off the stern with a fair lead to a winch. Run out 50' to 100' of line, wrap a few turns around the winch and cleat off. Tie the bungee cord to the fishing line and secure the bungee cord to a cleat. Ease the fishing line out enough that the load is on the bungee with a little slack in the fishing line. Cleat off the fishing line but keep enough turns on the winch to allow easy handling under load. Take a nap. Check the bungee cord form time to time. With a fish strikes or the hook tangles in some debris the bungee cord will stretch out to let you know to check the line. Use the winch to help with bringing the line in by hand. If you catch a fighter (either tuna of mahi) keep sailing for a while. Dragging the fish will often take the fight out of them enough to bring them in by hand. The key for us seemed to be moving fast (5 to 7 knots) past drifting debris that is large enough to have a shadow. A piece of plywood was worth turning around and making a few passes. Mahi mahi seemed to hang out under floating debris and would strike at something going by fast enough to be a flying fish or squid. Tuna seemed to be more random in location but likely following a school of flying fish. We would often see tuna attacking a school of flying fish or other small bait fish. We would alter course to close with the schools dragging our lines. This process was not as reliable as catching mahi from under debris. I'm not a chef but we did carry the seaweed, wasabi, and other makings for sushi rolls, we would cut sashimi right off the fish while cutting them up into meal sized chunks for freezing. One of my favorite preparations was to cut off a steak sized piece and quickly fry each side in soy sauce and ginger with a side of rice. I do recommend you consult one of the many excellent fishing guides for more professional fishing hints, but on multiple Hawaii crossings, using the techniques like I described I have been able to catch more than enough mahi and tuna to stave off mutiny when the provisions became boring. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Lee Youngblood via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:18 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Lee Youngblood Subject: Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips? OK Martin, I'll bite. . . Can you share a few offshore fishing tips? I know the cheap booze spray bottle trick, but you probably invented it with a sneeze to the gills. . . Thanks, Lee On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:25 AM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If the story teller was Texas John then it was the '77 delivery back from Hawaii following our 1st Transpac as a crew on the CC 39 Midnight Special. That delivery was one of my favorite of my 4 east bound Hawaii deliveries. Great weather and crew, reading in the cockpit by moon light, 2 weeks on one tack, getting ready for night watch by putting on a T-shirt, and teaching the crew the words to Jimmy Buffett's Cheeseburger in Paradise. We hit the dock at Shilshole around dawn on a weekday. By 9AM we were loaded into my 1969 Ford Econoline van headed to one of the crew's lakeside houses for a party. It was a great year to be young, single, and hooked on offshore sailing. The one thing that would have improved it would be to know what I now know about offshore fishing under sail. Back in 77 no one on the crew knew how to catch tuna and mahi mahi. With what I learned on later Hawaii deliveries we could have been eating like kings most of the trip back to Seattle. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips?
And that brings to mind, if you're being paid by the hour to crew or work on a boat.. the best stories start with , Once upon an overtime.. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 07:25 PM 18/06/2015, you wrote: We've had good luck with a cedar plug, too. I think it's appropriate, given the direction of this thread, to mention that the difference between a sea story and a fairy tale is that one starts Once upon a time... And the other starts, Now, this is no shit...! Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Jun 18, 2015, at 21:33, Jim Watts via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: We used a cedar plug trailing on a heavy mono line joined to surgical tubing coming back from Hawaii last year, got a nice mahi and a nice albacore within minutes. A spray bottle of vodka dispatched them amazingly quickly. One shot into each gill and that was that. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Ecj52bdEiCo/VGP0OQZFptI/Cts/31i7niiJYkM/w1238-h820-no/DSC_9432.jpghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Ecj52bdEiCo/VGP0OQZFptI/Cts/31i7niiJYkM/w1238-h820-no/DSC_9432.jpg Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 18 June 2015 at 17:51, Frederick G Street via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The mahi seem to favor neon-green squid lures. I think we had a 40-lb nylon hand line out with a stainless leader and the squid. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.comcnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Knife? Cut off the head, drink the vodka. On a delivery from Tonga to New Zealand we caught a 70lb yellow fin tuna. The vodka trick came in handy. That fish was particularly pissed off to find itself winched up a backstay and being readied to be butchered into football sized roasts. On the Tonga/NZ trip there were three avid fishermen on board with offshore rods and reels. My job was to sail the boat to keep the lines from the two rods from getting under the boat (a 46â Barnett custom). The fishing line was +-200lb test, the leader SS braid, the hook a big a** #3 treble, the lures were squid like. After several hours of landing mahi, wahoo, and some sort of jack (some ½ eaten by the sharks) both rods sung out at the same time. The guys responsible for the rods were stuffing tennis shoes into the reel area to help the brakes. After 20 minutes of fighting, we landed the small tuna (the 70lbâr), the big one broke the line and got away. I will put together a short list of what worked for fishing from a racing sailboat in the NE Pacific. I claim no expertise but I have picked up a few easy no-rod tricks that seemed to work between Hawaii and the US West Coast. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle ___ Email address: mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.comhttp://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.comhttp://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips?
We've had good luck with a cedar plug, too. I think it's appropriate, given the direction of this thread, to mention that the difference between a sea story and a fairy tale is that one starts Once upon a time... And the other starts, Now, this is no shit...! Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Jun 18, 2015, at 21:33, Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: We used a cedar plug trailing on a heavy mono line joined to surgical tubing coming back from Hawaii last year, got a nice mahi and a nice albacore within minutes. A spray bottle of vodka dispatched them amazingly quickly. One shot into each gill and that was that. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Ecj52bdEiCo/VGP0OQZFptI/Cts/31i7niiJYkM/w1238-h820-no/DSC_9432.jpg Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 18 June 2015 at 17:51, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The mahi seem to favor neon-green squid lures. I think we had a 40-lb nylon hand line out with a stainless leader and the squid. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Knife? Cut off the head, drink the vodka. On a delivery from Tonga to New Zealand we caught a 70lb yellow fin tuna. The vodka trick came in handy. That fish was particularly pissed off to find itself winched up a backstay and being readied to be butchered into football sized roasts. On the Tonga/NZ trip there were three avid fishermen on board with offshore rods and reels. My job was to sail the boat to keep the lines from the two rods from getting under the boat (a 46’ Barnett custom). The fishing line was +-200lb test, the leader SS braid, the hook a big a** #3 treble, the lures were squid like. After several hours of landing mahi, wahoo, and some sort of jack (some ½ eaten by the sharks) both rods sung out at the same time. The guys responsible for the rods were stuffing tennis shoes into the reel area to help the brakes. After 20 minutes of fighting, we landed the small tuna (the 70lb’r), the big one broke the line and got away. I will put together a short list of what worked for fishing from a racing sailboat in the NE Pacific. I claim no expertise but I have picked up a few easy no-rod tricks that seemed to work between Hawaii and the US West Coast. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips?
We used a cedar plug trailing on a heavy mono line joined to surgical tubing coming back from Hawaii last year, got a nice mahi and a nice albacore within minutes. A spray bottle of vodka dispatched them amazingly quickly. One shot into each gill and that was that. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Ecj52bdEiCo/VGP0OQZFptI/Cts/31i7niiJYkM/w1238-h820-no/DSC_9432.jpg Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 18 June 2015 at 17:51, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The mahi seem to favor neon-green squid lures. I think we had a 40-lb nylon hand line out with a stainless leader and the squid. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Knife? Cut off the head, drink the vodka. On a delivery from Tonga to New Zealand we caught a 70lb yellow fin tuna. The vodka trick came in handy. That fish was particularly pissed off to find itself winched up a backstay and being readied to be butchered into football sized roasts. On the Tonga/NZ trip there were three avid fishermen on board with offshore rods and reels. My job was to sail the boat to keep the lines from the two rods from getting under the boat (a 46’ Barnett custom). The fishing line was +-200lb test, the leader SS braid, the hook a big a** #3 treble, the lures were squid like. After several hours of landing mahi, wahoo, and some sort of jack (some ½ eaten by the sharks) both rods sung out at the same time. The guys responsible for the rods were stuffing tennis shoes into the reel area to help the brakes. After 20 minutes of fighting, we landed the small tuna (the 70lb’r), the big one broke the line and got away. I will put together a short list of what worked for fishing from a racing sailboat in the NE Pacific. I claim no expertise but I have picked up a few easy no-rod tricks that seemed to work between Hawaii and the US West Coast. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Queens Cup
No. I am slipped in South Haven so I'll get off there. I'm sure that Glenn and crew will be ready to get back home Sunday (after resting in South Haven on Saturday). Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (CC 35, Mark I) Corsair South Haven, Mi On 6/17/2015 4:06 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List wrote: Will you be doing the round-the-buoys race in Grand Haven next day? If they're still doing it. That was fun as well. Ron Wild Cheri CC 30-1 STL *From:* Jim Reinardy via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To:* Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Jim Reinardy firewa...@reinardy.us *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 2:07 PM *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Marion Bermuda race Neil, Best of luck to you and Glenn. The Queen’s Cup can be a very fun race with good conditions. I have a lot of friends from this side of the lake that do it every year. Jim Reinardy CC 30-2 “Firewater” Milwaukee, WI Sent from Windows Mail *From:* Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 1:53 PM *To:* Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* schiller mailto:schil...@bloomingdalecom.net Our own Glenn Gambel will be sailing his CC 36 in the Queens Cup (Milwaukee to South Haven, Mi) next week. I am going to crew for him (Not much rail meat since I lost 75 lbs, but I can still grind a winch). We leave White Lake, Mi Tuesday night for an overnight across the lake and then race back to South Haven leaving Friday night. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips?
The mahi seem to favor neon-green squid lures. I think we had a 40-lb nylon hand line out with a stainless leader and the squid. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Knife? Cut off the head, drink the vodka. On a delivery from Tonga to New Zealand we caught a 70lb yellow fin tuna. The vodka trick came in handy. That fish was particularly pissed off to find itself winched up a backstay and being readied to be butchered into football sized roasts. On the Tonga/NZ trip there were three avid fishermen on board with offshore rods and reels. My job was to sail the boat to keep the lines from the two rods from getting under the boat (a 46’ Barnett custom). The fishing line was +-200lb test, the leader SS braid, the hook a big a** #3 treble, the lures were squid like. After several hours of landing mahi, wahoo, and some sort of jack (some ½ eaten by the sharks) both rods sung out at the same time. The guys responsible for the rods were stuffing tennis shoes into the reel area to help the brakes. After 20 minutes of fighting, we landed the small tuna (the 70lb’r), the big one broke the line and got away. I will put together a short list of what worked for fishing from a racing sailboat in the NE Pacific. I claim no expertise but I have picked up a few easy no-rod tricks that seemed to work between Hawaii and the US West Coast. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List What Model Have I?
Mine had a windward sheeting Harken traveller that adjusted itself after the tack. It was an expensive upgrade (I think around $500 more), but it worked beautifully. -Original Message- From: Andrew Frame via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:33 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Frame Subject: Re: Stus-List What Model Have I? I've got the shin-destroyer on mine. My mentor built a rather nice ladder to get into the salon, and now it's an easier step-over with no bloodletting. (He's retired and likes to putter. So my boat gets benefits when he's puttering on his boats.) We do only river sailing right now, coming about every 60 to 90 seconds, so I lock the car down at the midpoint and leave it be. It's smack in the center of the companionway, but nothing you can't get around. On 06/18/2015 10:39 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote: An actual traveller for the mainsheet (usually about a foot back from the companion way) is one of the best upgrades you can make for the boat. At least, if you want her to sail well. Usually, the admirals hate it because it hits your shins every time you try entering the cabin. Not to mention that it moves the placement of the main sheet and it works much better for single handling. Marek ex 1975 CC 24 “Fennel” Ottawa From: Russ Melody via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:19 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Russ Melody Subject: Re: Stus-List What Model Have I? Wow. Look at the mainsheet traveller in the brochure. I remember those. Ha, kids these days... Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 (means first run off the lot) At 03:58 PM 17/06/2015, you wrote: The 24 had 3 models – standard, Niagara and Competition. http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/brochures/24foot/24b1pg01.htm Stu Former 24 CC Competition Owner From: Paul Baker via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:25 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Paul Baker Subject: Re: Stus-List What Model Have I? You have a CC24. They had no models, marks or names. All that changed over the boats life was the interior layout. The Niagara is a different boat. Cheers, Paul. 27 MkII Former 24 owner. Sidney, BC Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:31:33 -0400 To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List What Model Have I? From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com CC: flasp...@dynamagic.com On the bigger boats, I see many of you post the length, and a model name. Some vessels have the same manufacture year and LOA, but come from different model designs. Of my 1975 24, I have found only one model, the /Niagara/, but a look at the layout shows that mine is not a /Niagara/. I have the original owners manual, and nowhere do I find a model variant. Nothing on the title, and nothing in a casual web search. The subject came up when I applied for insurance with Allstate and they asked for a make and model. They were happy with CC 24 but it got me wondering what model variants of the 24' were offered, besides the above-mentioned /Niagara/? -- Andrew Frame CC 24, #43 Lehigh Acres/Alva, FL ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips?
OK Martin, I’ll bite. . . Can you share a few offshore fishing tips? I know the cheap booze spray bottle trick, but you probably invented it with a sneeze to the gills. . . Thanks, Lee On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:25 AM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If the story teller was Texas John then it was the '77 delivery back from Hawaii following our 1st Transpac as a crew on the CC 39 Midnight Special. That delivery was one of my favorite of my 4 east bound Hawaii deliveries. Great weather and crew, reading in the cockpit by moon light, 2 weeks on one tack, getting ready for night watch by putting on a T-shirt, and teaching the crew the words to Jimmy Buffett's Cheeseburger in Paradise. We hit the dock at Shilshole around dawn on a weekday. By 9AM we were loaded into my 1969 Ford Econoline van headed to one of the crew's lakeside houses for a party. It was a great year to be young, single, and hooked on offshore sailing. The one thing that would have improved it would be to know what I now know about offshore fishing under sail. Back in 77 no one on the crew knew how to catch tuna and mahi mahi. With what I learned on later Hawaii deliveries we could have been eating like kings most of the trip back to Seattle. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips?
Lee, What is the cheap booze trick? I just use a metal winch handle. Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA. -- Original message--From: Lee Youngblood via CnC-List Date: Thu, Jun 18, 2015 11:18To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Lee Youngblood;Subject:Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips?OK Martin,I’ll bite. . . Can you share a few offshore fishing tips?I know the cheap booze spray bottle trick, but you probably invented it with a sneeze to the gills. . . Thanks, Lee On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:25 AM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List wrote: If the story teller was Texas John then it was the '77 delivery back from Hawaii following our 1st Transpac as a crew on the CC 39 Midnight Special. That delivery was one of my favorite of my 4 east bound Hawaii deliveries. Great weather and crew, reading in the cockpit by moon light, 2 weeks on one tack, getting ready for night watch by putting on a T-shirt, and teaching the crew the words to Jimmy Buffett's Cheeseburger in Paradise. We hit the dock at Shilshole around dawn on a weekday. By 9AM we were loaded into my 1969 Ford Econoline van headed to one of the crew's lakeside houses for a party. It was a great year to be young, single, and hooked on offshore sailing. The one thing that would have improved it would be to know what I now know about offshore fishing under sail. Back in 77 no one on the crew knew how to catch tuna and mahi mahi. With what I learned on later Hawaii deliveries we could have been eating like kings most of the trip back to Seattle. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle___Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips?
Hi Doug, The gaff or winch handle is dangerous and messy on board. When you get the fish close enough, just spray their gills with cheap booze. It goes straight to the fish “lungs” and they die a quick quiet death. You don’t have to fight with a bouncing fish splashing blood all over the place, or getting spines in your legs or hands. It’s really surprising how quick it works, easy trick if you you didn’t finish off the fish booze too. 2 cents, Lee On Jun 18, 2015, at 12:51 PM, svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Lee, What is the cheap booze trick? I just use a metal winch handle. Doug Mountjoy svPegasus LF38 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Strengthening Drop Leaf Table Supports
I have the same issue with my 30-2. In my case the piano hinges just split at the top. Need to reinforce as well so will be listening for advice. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 6:26 AM Don Newman via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Is it possible that one side released putting all the load on the one that failed? If so you may want to add barrel locks to prevent someone from accidentally knocking one side loose. Don Newman 905 547 1750 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips?
You have to live outside Canada.No such thing as cheap booze here. Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 06-18-2015 16:51 (GMT-04:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: svpegasu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips? Lee, What is the cheap booze trick? I just use a metal winch handle. Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA. -- Original message--From: Lee Youngblood via CnC-List Date: Thu, Jun 18, 2015 11:18To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Lee Youngblood;Subject:Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips?OK Martin,I’ll bite. . . Can you share a few offshore fishing tips?I know the cheap booze spray bottle trick, but you probably invented it with a sneeze to the gills. . . Thanks, Lee On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:25 AM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List wrote: If the story teller was Texas John then it was the '77 delivery back from Hawaii following our 1st Transpac as a crew on the CC 39 Midnight Special. That delivery was one of my favorite of my 4 east bound Hawaii deliveries. Great weather and crew, reading in the cockpit by moon light, 2 weeks on one tack, getting ready for night watch by putting on a T-shirt, and teaching the crew the words to Jimmy Buffett's Cheeseburger in Paradise. We hit the dock at Shilshole around dawn on a weekday. By 9AM we were loaded into my 1969 Ford Econoline van headed to one of the crew's lakeside houses for a party. It was a great year to be young, single, and hooked on offshore sailing. The one thing that would have improved it would be to know what I now know about offshore fishing under sail. Back in 77 no one on the crew knew how to catch tuna and mahi mahi. With what I learned on later Hawaii deliveries we could have been eating like kings most of the trip back to Seattle. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle___Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories
Okay Martin, enough with “when we were young and fit” stories. You’re depressing me. ;-) Got back last Monday from helping one of my “old” racing buddies and other old race crew deliver his Sabre 426 from Annapolis to Block Island in preparation (Storm Trysail member and PRO) for BI Race week. I was the “young kid” at 63… It was funny though; we picked up 20 knot Southwesterlies off Atlantic City and set the asym. Hoisted that sucker till it was blocked only to see in fall into the water to leeward. Shackle opened up. The offending person, aka The Owner, started up the mast to retrieve the halyard. After banging around at the first spreader he motioned to us to drop him back to the deck. See, with old age comes wisdom… Cheers, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/ P.S. We moored next to a nice CC 40. Not Andy’s though…. On Jun 18, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If the story teller was Texas John then it was the '77 delivery back from Hawaii following our 1st Transpac as a crew on the CC 39 Midnight Special. That delivery was one of my favorite of my 4 east bound Hawaii deliveries. Great weather and crew, reading in the cockpit by moon light, 2 weeks on one tack, getting ready for night watch by putting on a T-shirt, and teaching the crew the words to Jimmy Buffett's Cheeseburger in Paradise. We hit the dock at Shilshole around dawn on a weekday. By 9AM we were loaded into my 1969 Ford Econoline van headed to one of the crew's lakeside houses for a party. It was a great year to be young, single, and hooked on offshore sailing. The one thing that would have improved it would be to know what I now know about offshore fishing under sail. Back in 77 no one on the crew knew how to catch tuna and mahi mahi. With what I learned on later Hawaii deliveries we could have been eating like kings most of the trip back to Seattle. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 3:51 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories Martin, as you may have guessed, my pal describing the event was John Dennison. Somehow your name came up and he told the story. I thought it too good not to share! Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Jun 18, 2015, at 00:44, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Andrew, Which CC 39 and year? In the late 70's there was 4 or 5 active 39s racing in the PNW. Many of the crews would hang out together after racing and tell sea stories. The names Blackwatch and Mistress come to mind. The Midnight Special set a Vic Maui record for boats under 40' in either 74 or 76 under its original ownership, Steve Crary IIRC. I did a similar thing sailing a CC 39 (the Midnight Special under its 2nd owner) sailing back to Seattle from a Transpac 77. I dove over for a baseball sized glass float. I took the crew a few moments to drop the spinnaker and turn around. I could not see the boat for about 10 minutes but I was young and a good swimmer. We were +- 1,000 miles from dry land. I have 9 glass floats picked up while delivering boats back from Hawaii. That baseball sized one is the smallest, the largest is the size of a small beach ball. My wife has them nicely displayed in our home. The bigger floats always had a beard of sea life hanging below the water's surface. The big float still had its netting attached which allowed extra sea life to attach. When I extended out from the deck to grab the float it almost pulled me off the boat. Another crew grabbed my legs allowing me to hold onto the float until the boat slowed more. I cut off the netting and returned it to the sea. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Andrew Burton via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:41 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories So I just had dinner with an old mate of mine and he had a great story about sailing a CC 39 back to Seattle from Maui a few decades ago. Japanese fishermen used to have these beautiful blown glass fishing floats that would occasionally get away and were highly valued by sailors. They were reaching along with the kite up when my friend, who was driving, and his watch mate saw one the size of a basketball. The watch mate tried to grab it but missed. So he called man overboard! and jumped in after it. My friend stopped the boat
Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips?
On the way to Bermuda a few years back, a nice mahi got onto the line; but we didn’t notice it for a while, so it dragged behind the boat for quite a while. Once we realized it was on, we reeled it in and I proceeded to spray vodka into the gill slits. The darn thing wouldn’t die; it just kept vigorously flopping around. I imagine all the oxygen from all that water through which we dragged it gave it quite a buzz… :^) It finally gave in (after about a pint of cheap vodka) and we ate some as sushi and some as fried strips. Yum! Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 18, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Lee Youngblood via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Doug, The gaff or winch handle is dangerous and messy on board. When you get the fish close enough, just spray their gills with cheap booze. It goes straight to the fish “lungs” and they die a quick quiet death. You don’t have to fight with a bouncing fish splashing blood all over the place, or getting spines in your legs or hands. It’s really surprising how quick it works, easy trick if you you didn’t finish off the fish booze too. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List bolt cutters
I personally wouldn't want to be looking for pliers hammer etc during a dismasting and then trying to pull clevis pins in a pitching sea with the waves punching holes in the side of the boat with the mast. What ever is easiest and *fastest* is safest in a dismasting event is best IMO. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:02 PM Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: You don't don't need bolt cutters. Just pull the cotter pins on the turnbuckle forks, and remove the clevis pins. Diagonal cutters, Pliers, hammer. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md -- *From: *Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc: *Graham Collins cnclistforw...@hotmail.com *Sent: *Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:46:43 PM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill Hey Mike So if your mast breaks how do you cut the rigging away? If you had a bolt cutter on board you'd be set for that risk, plus it would make it easier to break into my boat to steal my socket set. Sorry, borrow... :-) I'm all about having too many tools on board, just not electric ones. A friend insisted we clear out the boat prior to a race, it was an illuminating experience. I managed to talk her out of removing the windlass though. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-17 10:33 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: When I need sockets I just motor a quarter mile down the NW Arm to where I know there is a 260 piece socket set…… Seriously though. In 2009 was doing a home project and purchased a Ryobi 9v and then found a DeWalt 12v on sale. Used both drills while installing new flooring that had to be screwed every 6 inches (for under tile) and would swap one dewalt battery while other charging and then use the ryobi while both those charging. The Ryobi would last only a very short time and has long since been scrapped. The 12v DeWalt has been used for many projects and the first battery started not holding much charge last Spring while the second is still fine. The 12v DeWalt has been a great drill for me (this past December replaced with 18v DeWalt). Nothing but good to say about it and it was NiCad I do not leave a drill on the boat. I have a smallish toolbox with 6 screwdrivers (2 phillips, 2 robertson, two slot), one multhead screw driver, a couple pair of various pliers, a couple adjustable wrenches, allan keys and a pair of vice grips .. as well as pne hammer (don’t know why). Also a smallish socket set. As I said – if I need more sockets I know where Graham is moored I do believe you need tools aboard because things break on boats … and also you never know on a boat when the mood will hit you to take on some small task which always turns out to be a much bigger job than expected. Mike Persistence Just up the NW Arm from Graham’s boat in Halifax *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin DeYoung via CnC-List *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:51 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Martin DeYoung *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill … What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? Ever since cordless drill batteries size and performance became reasonably useful (mid-80’s?) I carry one on any trip longer than a day sail and especially offshore. Used for repairs, both drilling holes and removing/installing fasteners they earn their keep. If you purchase L-Ion batteries and travel with your equipment, the US airlines are now restricting L-Ion batteries to carry on, not to be in checked luggage. This includes spare cell phone and laptop batteries. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [image: Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 3:58 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Stevan Plavsa *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill Speaking for myself I bought the ryobi because I saw the deal and I'm on a wet mooring. Rowing my tools out kinda sucks to be honest so I keep a set on board. Also, time is money right? Inevitably I forget to bring something. If it's all on board I'm good. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: OK, I've got to ask. I love tool as much as the next guy, maybe more (ask me how many saws I own). What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? All season? When I'm working on the boat I will bring whatever drill is appropriate (the corded right angle drill is actually a favorite), I will take it home when done. It isn't like I'm off cruising for a week and suddenly it occurs to me that I
Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips?
Knife? Cut off the head, drink the vodka. - Original Message - From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:39:06 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips? On the way to Bermuda a few years back, a nice mahi got onto the line; but we didn’t notice it for a while, so it dragged behind the boat for quite a while. Once we realized it was on, we reeled it in and I proceeded to spray vodka into the gill slits. The darn thing wouldn’t die; it just kept vigorously flopping around. I imagine all the oxygen from all that water through which we dragged it gave it quite a buzz… :^) It finally gave in (after about a pint of cheap vodka) and we ate some as sushi and some as fried strips. Yum! Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 18, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Lee Youngblood via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Doug, The gaff or winch handle is dangerous and messy on board. When you get the fish close enough, just spray their gills with cheap booze. It goes straight to the fish “lungs” and they die a quick quiet death. You don’t have to fight with a bouncing fish splashing blood all over the place, or getting spines in your legs or hands. It’s really surprising how quick it works, easy trick if you you didn’t finish off the fish booze too. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List bolt cutters
You don't don't need bolt cutters. Just pull the cotter pins on the turnbuckle forks, and remove the clevis pins. Diagonal cutters, Pliers, hammer. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Graham Collins cnclistforw...@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:46:43 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill Hey Mike So if your mast breaks how do you cut the rigging away? If you had a bolt cutter on board you'd be set for that risk, plus it would make it easier to break into my boat to steal my socket set. Sorry, borrow... :-) I'm all about having too many tools on board, just not electric ones. A friend insisted we clear out the boat prior to a race, it was an illuminating experience. I managed to talk her out of removing the windlass though. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-17 10:33 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: When I need sockets I just motor a quarter mile down the NW Arm to where I know there is a 260 piece socket set…… Seriously though. In 2009 was doing a home project and purchased a Ryobi 9v and then found a DeWalt 12v on sale. Used both drills while installing new flooring that had to be screwed every 6 inches (for under tile) and would swap one dewalt battery while other charging and then use the ryobi while both those charging. The Ryobi would last only a very short time and has long since been scrapped. The 12v DeWalt has been used for many projects and the first battery started not holding much charge last Spring while the second is still fine. The 12v DeWalt has been a great drill for me (this past December replaced with 18v DeWalt). Nothing but good to say about it and it was NiCad I do not leave a drill on the boat. I have a smallish toolbox with 6 screwdrivers (2 phillips, 2 robertson, two slot), one multhead screw driver, a couple pair of various pliers, a couple adjustable wrenches, allan keys and a pair of vice grips .. as well as pne hammer (don’t know why). Also a smallish socket set. As I said – if I need more sockets I know where Graham is moored I do believe you need tools aboard because things break on boats … and also you never know on a boat when the mood will hit you to take on some small task which always turns out to be a much bigger job than expected. Mike Persistence Just up the NW Arm from Graham’s boat in Halifax From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Martin DeYoung Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill … What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? Ever since cordless drill batteries size and performance became reasonably useful (mid-80’s?) I carry one on any trip longer than a day sail and especially offshore. Used for repairs, both drilling holes and removing/installing fasteners they earn their keep. If you purchase L-Ion batteries and travel with your equipment, the US airlines are now restricting L-Ion batteries to carry on, not to be in checked luggage. This includes spare cell phone and laptop batteries. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 3:58 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Stevan Plavsa Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill Speaking for myself I bought the ryobi because I saw the deal and I'm on a wet mooring. Rowing my tools out kinda sucks to be honest so I keep a set on board. Also, time is money right? Inevitably I forget to bring something. If it's all on board I'm good. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: OK, I've got to ask. I love tool as much as the next guy, maybe more (ask me how many saws I own). What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? All season? When I'm working on the boat I will bring whatever drill is appropriate (the corded right angle drill is actually a favorite), I will take it home when done. It isn't like I'm off cruising for a week and suddenly it occurs to me that I should install some new deck hardware. And if it did I've got an old school hand drill that will do a few holes quite easily. I will admit, after being this sanctimonious, that I do have a 260 piece socket set on board. And yes, I only use 5 sockets from it. :-) Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-16 6:01 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote: blockquote I got my ryobi L-ion set on sale for I think $60CND two batteries, driver and drill. I keep that stuff on the boat and bring a battery home every now and then for a
Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips?
Knife? Cut off the head, drink the vodka. On a delivery from Tonga to New Zealand we caught a 70lb yellow fin tuna. The vodka trick came in handy. That fish was particularly pissed off to find itself winched up a backstay and being readied to be butchered into football sized roasts. On the Tonga/NZ trip there were three avid fishermen on board with offshore rods and reels. My job was to sail the boat to keep the lines from the two rods from getting under the boat (a 46’ Barnett custom). The fishing line was +-200lb test, the leader SS braid, the hook a big a** #3 treble, the lures were squid like. After several hours of landing mahi, wahoo, and some sort of jack (some ½ eaten by the sharks) both rods sung out at the same time. The guys responsible for the rods were stuffing tennis shoes into the reel area to help the brakes. After 20 minutes of fighting, we landed the small tuna (the 70lb’r), the big one broke the line and got away. I will put together a short list of what worked for fishing from a racing sailboat in the NE Pacific. I claim no expertise but I have picked up a few easy no-rod tricks that seemed to work between Hawaii and the US West Coast. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:53 PM To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list Cc: Chuck S Subject: Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips? Knife? Cut off the head, drink the vodka. From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:39:06 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories / Offshore fishing tips? On the way to Bermuda a few years back, a nice mahi got onto the line; but we didn’t notice it for a while, so it dragged behind the boat for quite a while. Once we realized it was on, we reeled it in and I proceeded to spray vodka into the gill slits. The darn thing wouldn’t die; it just kept vigorously flopping around. I imagine all the oxygen from all that water through which we dragged it gave it quite a buzz… :^) It finally gave in (after about a pint of cheap vodka) and we ate some as sushi and some as fried strips. Yum! Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 18, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Lee Youngblood via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Doug, The gaff or winch handle is dangerous and messy on board. When you get the fish close enough, just spray their gills with cheap booze. It goes straight to the fish “lungs” and they die a quick quiet death. You don’t have to fight with a bouncing fish splashing blood all over the place, or getting spines in your legs or hands. It’s really surprising how quick it works, easy trick if you you didn’t finish off the fish booze too. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List What Model Have I?
Yes and Yes. As Stu mentioned above, the well equipped version of the 24 was called the Niagara (see the brochures on the CC Photo Album), http://sailboatdata.com/view_builder.asp?builder_id=10 and Hinterhoeller had a model called the Niagara available in 26', 30', 31' 35' http://sailboatdata.com/view_builder.asp?builder_id=73 Ken H. On 18 June 2015 at 02:33, Paul Baker via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Wasn't the Niagara series actually a Hinterhoeller after he left CC yachts in '76? Likely sold through CC dealers but not strictly a CC. As for the Competition, it was a standard 24' with some go faster deck hardware like genoa tracks/cars IIRC, no differences in the hull, probably didn't come with cushions below or something :-) Cheers, Paul. At 03:58 PM 17/06/2015, you wrote: The 24 had 3 models – standard, Niagara and Competition. http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/brochures/24foot/24b1pg01.htm Stu Former 24 CC Competition Owner *From:* Paul Baker via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:25 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Paul Baker pjbake...@hotmail.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List What Model Have I? You have a CC24. They had no models, marks or names. All that changed over the boats life was the interior layout. The Niagara is a different boat. Cheers, Paul. 27 MkII Former 24 owner. Sidney, BC Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:31:33 -0400 To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List What Model Have I? From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com CC: flasp...@dynamagic.com On the bigger boats, I see many of you post the length, and a model name. Some vessels have the same manufacture year and LOA, but come from different model designs. Of my 1975 24, I have found only one model, the /Niagara/, but a look at the layout shows that mine is not a /Niagara/. I have the original owners manual, and nowhere do I find a model variant. Nothing on the title, and nothing in a casual web search. The subject came up when I applied for insurance with Allstate and they asked for a make and model. They were happy with CC 24 but it got me wondering what model variants of the 24' were offered, besides the above-mentioned /Niagara/? -- Andrew Frame CC 24, #43 Lehigh Acres/Alva, FL ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories
Martin, as you may have guessed, my pal describing the event was John Dennison. Somehow your name came up and he told the story. I thought it too good not to share! Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Jun 18, 2015, at 00:44, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Andrew, Which CC 39 and year? In the late 70's there was 4 or 5 active 39s racing in the PNW. Many of the crews would hang out together after racing and tell sea stories. The names Blackwatch and Mistress come to mind. The Midnight Special set a Vic Maui record for boats under 40' in either 74 or 76 under its original ownership, Steve Crary IIRC. I did a similar thing sailing a CC 39 (the Midnight Special under its 2nd owner) sailing back to Seattle from a Transpac 77. I dove over for a baseball sized glass float. I took the crew a few moments to drop the spinnaker and turn around. I could not see the boat for about 10 minutes but I was young and a good swimmer. We were +- 1,000 miles from dry land. I have 9 glass floats picked up while delivering boats back from Hawaii. That baseball sized one is the smallest, the largest is the size of a small beach ball. My wife has them nicely displayed in our home. The bigger floats always had a beard of sea life hanging below the water's surface. The big float still had its netting attached which allowed extra sea life to attach. When I extended out from the deck to grab the float it almost pulled me off the boat. Another crew grabbed my legs allowing me to hold onto the float until the boat slowed more. I cut off the netting and returned it to the sea. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Andrew Burton via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:41 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Stus-List Pacific Sea stories So I just had dinner with an old mate of mine and he had a great story about sailing a CC 39 back to Seattle from Maui a few decades ago. Japanese fishermen used to have these beautiful blown glass fishing floats that would occasionally get away and were highly valued by sailors. They were reaching along with the kite up when my friend, who was driving, and his watch mate saw one the size of a basketball. The watch mate tried to grab it but missed. So he called man overboard! and jumped in after it. My friend stopped the boat by going head to wind as the rest of the guys ran on deck. They retrieved the glass ball and then their errant crewman. Apparently the owner was quite impressed! :) Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
