Re: Stus-List Indicator lights for breaker panel

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

I'll be getting out the calipers!
Thanks

Joel

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Jim Watts via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I bought LED's from Paneltronics. They fit nicely into the little rings
> and are held in place with a dab of silicone on the back.
> Strangely enough, Paneltronics were by far the cheapest source I found,
> including big suppliers like Mouser.
>
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>
> On 11 September 2015 at 07:58, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Joel — send me a photo and measurements and I’ll see what I can find.
>>
>> — Fred
>>
>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Where can I find indicator lights for my breaker panels?  The Blue Sea
>> connectors are too small (11/64).  All of the 120 volt panel lights need to
>> be replaced as do several 12 volt lights.
>>
>> Joel
>> 301 541 8551
>>
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Re: Stus-List Indicator lights for breaker panel

[svpegasus38]

You might try Paneltronics, they are in Florida. 
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA.




-- Original message--From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Date: Fri, Sep 11, 
2015 07:13To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Joel Aronson;Subject:Stus-List 
Indicator lights for breaker panel
Where can I find indicator lights for my breaker panels?  The Blue Sea 
connectors are too small (11/64).  All of the 120 volt panel lights need to be 
replaced as do several 12 volt lights.

Joel 
301 541 8551

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Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling

[Dave Syer via CnC-List]

Interesting indeed.   Going through this now, here are my learnings:

NMEA2200 ("N2K") and seatalk are all CAN bus data backbones, developed by
bosch for automotive use and same as devicenet used in industry for years.
Seatalk NG data is exactly the same as N2K, but Raymarine uses a similar,
but proprietary connector design and conductor count.  This is why you need
adaptor cables between seatalkNG and N2K

The N2K data itself is the same as seatalkNG, even if the cable and
connectors are slightly different.

To share N2K data with an external device  (PC, tablet, whatever) you need
piece of hardware called a gateway.  This usually includes a software tool
that allows you to read the N2K "sentences" and actually observe the
network traffic.  (cool!)  the Actisense NGT-1 is such a gateway, hardwired
only.

http://www.actisense.com/products/nmea-2000/ngt-1/ngt-1.html

There are a few wifi gateways available also.  These are quite expensive.
There is no Bluetooth gateway that I have been able to find, likely because
Bluetooth speeds are simply too slow for N2K.  This is not true of pokey,
old-school Nema 0183, where Bluetooth access is supported (via a
multiplexer).

http://www.digitalyachtamerica.com/index.php/en/products/interfacing/nmea-to-wifi-adaptors

Back on cabling.   N2K cabling and accessories are derived from (a subset
of) the devicenet standard.   You can use the correct form factor devicenet
cable and connectors for N2K applications.   Here is an example of an
industrial vendor who promotes the N2K subset of their offering.

http://www.molex.com/molex/products/family?key=nmea_2000_cables_and_connectors

here is a presentation explaining the N2K standard.  There are others that
cover this ground well.


http://www.nmea.org/Assets/nmea%202000%20mets%202011%20presentation.pdf






Message: 6
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 14:38:54 +
From: "Hoyt, Mike" 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>snip

 Does this mean that some sort of device such as iPad, iPhone, Android
phone, Windows Tablet can pick up this wifi signal and from that position,
wind speed, boat speed, depth, etc?  I currently have Windows Surface 2
with Navionics Boating HD and this could be useful.  (we also have all
those other devices as well).  Is there any app that we should be using on
these devices with the wifi to make them repeaters?

Thanks

Mike
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Re: Stus-List C 30 rudder

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

What did that cost? Danny

-- Original Message --
From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
To: "C List" 
Cc: Josh Muckley 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 rudder
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 15:54:39 -0500


My rebuild was done by Steve Uthoff at Annapolis Fiberglass and Gelcoat.
https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yVUdWUDNxVGFUcDA/edit
Josh Muckley
 S/V Sea Hawk
 1989 C 37+
 Solomons, MD
On Sep 11, 2015 3:28 PM, "Scott via CnC-List"  wrote:

 
 Rudder has had water inside since before I bought it four years ago, drilling 
in the fall reveals rusty water , so I'm thinking of pulling it to work on over 
the winter. Anyone know what they are comprised of inside? Solid glass, foam 
core , solid blade , open grid welded ? Thanks for any insight, just curious 
before I perform surgery on it,
 Thanks Scott
 
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Re: Stus-List C 30 rudder

[Graham Collins via CnC-List]

Hi Scott
If it is manufactured the same way as the 35-3 rudder, the answer is:
glass shell, with a welded frame on the stock, filled with foam.

Graham Collins
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C 35-III #11

On 2015-09-11 4:31 PM, Scott via CnC-List wrote:


Rudder has had water inside since before I bought it four years ago, drilling 
in the fall reveals rusty water , so I'm thinking of pulling it to work on over 
the winter. Anyone know what they are comprised of inside? Solid glass, foam 
core , solid blade , open grid welded ? Thanks for any insight, just curious 
before I perform surgery on it,
Thanks Scott

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Re: Stus-List C 30 rudder

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

My rebuild was done by Steve Uthoff at Annapolis Fiberglass and Gelcoat.

https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yVUdWUDNxVGFUcDA/edit

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Sep 11, 2015 3:28 PM, "Scott via CnC-List"  wrote:

>
>
> Rudder has had water inside since before I bought it four years ago,
> drilling in the fall reveals rusty water , so I'm thinking of pulling it to
> work on over the winter. Anyone know what they are comprised of inside?
> Solid glass, foam core , solid blade , open grid welded ? Thanks for any
> insight, just curious before I perform surgery on it,
> Thanks Scott
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Stus-List C 30 rudder

[Scott via CnC-List]

Rudder has had water inside since before I bought it four years ago, drilling 
in the fall reveals rusty water , so I'm thinking of pulling it to work on over 
the winter. Anyone know what they are comprised of inside? Solid glass, foam 
core , solid blade , open grid welded ? Thanks for any insight, just curious 
before I perform surgery on it,
Thanks Scott 

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Re: Stus-List Indicator lights for breaker panel

[Graham Collins via CnC-List]

http://www.digikey.ca/product-search/en/optoelectronics/panel-indicators-pilot-lights/524928

Put in the diameter you need and see what comes up.

Once you identify a manufacturer you may be able to find the same part 
cheaper elsewhere.


Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2015-09-11 11:12 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:
Where can I find indicator lights for my breaker panels?  The Blue Sea 
connectors are too small (11/64).  All of the 120 volt panel lights 
need to be replaced as do several 12 volt lights.


Joel
301 541 8551


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Re: Stus-List Indicator lights for breaker panel

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

My 120 volt lights are 5/16 diameter, my 12 v lights are 1/4 inch diameter
but are soldered.  Luckily I only need 2 reds, so not too many crimps.

thanks for the digikey link.  Prices are all over the place!

Joel

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> 
> http://www.digikey.ca/product-search/en/optoelectronics/panel-indicators-pilot-lights/524928
>
> Put in the diameter you need and see what comes up.
>
> Once you identify a manufacturer you may be able to find the same part
> cheaper elsewhere.
>
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C 35-III #11
>
> On 2015-09-11 11:12 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Where can I find indicator lights for my breaker panels?  The Blue Sea
> connectors are too small (11/64).  All of the 120 volt panel lights need to
> be replaced as do several 12 volt lights.
>
> Joel
> 301 541 8551
>
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Re: Stus-List C 30 rudder

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

IIRC ~5K
On Sep 11, 2015 5:02 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> What did that cost?
>
> Danny
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
> To: "C List" 
> Cc: Josh Muckley 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 rudder
> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 15:54:39 -0500
>
> My rebuild was done by Steve Uthoff at Annapolis Fiberglass and Gelcoat.
>
> https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yVUdWUDNxVGFUcDA/edit
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Sep 11, 2015 3:28 PM, "Scott via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Rudder has had water inside since before I bought it four years ago,
>> drilling in the fall reveals rusty water , so I'm thinking of pulling it to
>> work on over the winter. Anyone know what they are comprised of inside?
>> Solid glass, foam core , solid blade , open grid welded ? Thanks for any
>> insight, just curious before I perform surgery on it,
>> Thanks Scott
>>
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Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Jerome,

My understanding is that the wifi can be transmitted to a mobile device or
PC, but not to a plotter.  For example, my E7 broadcasts wifi, but I don't
think it receives.
Am I wrong (again)?

Joel

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I would go wireless.   This is from Comar Systems web site.  An NMEA WIFI
> unit provides a low cost method of setting up a wireless network on board
> and to use available Apps on your iPhone, iPad or PC to display all your
> electronic data including position, AIS data, depth, wind, compass etc.
>
>
> With 2 NMEA inputs which are multiplexed to a single high
> speed data output it can transmits NMEA 0183 data over WIFI for viewing on
> a smart phone or
> tablet using suitable Apps or a PC Navigation program, and provides 2 way
> communication between the WIFI device and any suitable NMEA devices. With 2
> inputs, it can accept NMEA 0183 data at 4800 from any GPS, Chart plotter or
> Instruments, plus a 38400 baud input from any AIS
> receiver or transponder, so you only need one unit to collect and transmit
> all the navigation data to your portable device over WIFI.
> For a vessel with a chart plotter at the nav station, using the Comar
> NMEA-2-WIFI, the helmsman can view all the navigation data on deck via an
> iPad or iPhone and for boats with the chart plotter at the helm you can
> check all the critical navigation data down below, making your boats data
> truly portable.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:26 AM, "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Fred
>
>
>
> This reminds me of early Ethernet and Arcnet computer network cabling.  I
> was hoping the days or requiring a terminator were in the far distant past.
>
>
>
> Do you recall if the i50/i60 style networks also require a terminator? It
> seems to me I had to buy a couple of items that look like that is what they
> are
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Frederick G Street via
> CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:48 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Frederick G Street
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling
>
>
>
> Jim — is the backbone properly terminated after your addition?  There
> needs to be a terminator at either end of the backbone, after the final “T”
> for equipment spurs.
>
>
>
> Hopefully the “network” line you cut into is the backbone cable, not a
> spur.
>
>
>
> In this instance, you’d have been far better to use all the same type of
> cable/connectors as the existing backbone, then use an adapter cable to go
> to the VHF as needed.  If the existing NMEA2k network was Maretron, for
> example, disconnect the backbone at the location closest to the VHF, put in
> a Maretron “T” and another backbone cable to where you broke it; then a
> Simrad to NMEA2k adapter spur to the VHF.
>
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V *Oceanis* (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
>
>
>
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Joel,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
>
>
> With the NMEA 2000 cable connected, I only have the NMEA 0183 source
> available on that menu.  That is how I drew the conclusion that the radio
> does not see the 2000 network.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Joel Aronson via CnC-List
> *Sent: *Thursday, September 10, 2015 2:32 PM
> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc: *Joel Aronson
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling
>
>
>
>
>
> Manual says:
>
>
>
> This radio can use either NMEA 0183 or NMEA 2000 protocol to *receive *GPS
> data from a
>
> compatible GPS unit.
>
> Note: NMEA 2000 SOURCE options will appear (up to 4 sources showing the
> actual source
>
> name) only if an NMEA 2000 network is connected to the radio and is
> operational.
>
> RADIO SETUP
>
> WX ALERT ▲
>
> COM PORT
>
> ►GPS SOURCE
>
> FAV CH SETU
>
> GPS SOURCE
>
> ►NMEA0183
>
> LGC3000
>
> LCX113CHD
>
> 1. Select RADIO SETUP then GPS SOURCE. (If there is only one NMEA protocol
> available on
>
> your vessel, only that will be shown).
>
> 2. Select the desired NMEA source then press ENT.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> Helping a friend add a Simrad RS-35 VHF radio with AIS receiver to his
> existing B instrument system.  That currently has 2 Triton displays, a
> Zeus Touch 7 MFD plus wind and speed/depth transducers.  Everything is
> connected via NMEA 2000, there is no 0183 on the boat.  There was no
> convenient place to tap into an existing T connector, but there was an
> existing network line running close to the radio.  We bought 2 Maretron
> micro-c field installable connectors, a premade Maretron cable and a
> Lowrance T connector.  I could not find Lowrance/B 

Stus-List Mast step 1985 37

[Mitchell's via CnC-List]

Mike, I don't have the rake specifications for a 1985 37 but it should probably 
be 8-10 inches to aft measured by hanging a weight from the main halyard. A 
wrench will do. Then install your wedges at the collar/blocks at the base and 
tune the mast. The mast will move around to match your adjustment if it's 
loose. I have the original instructions for a 1981 36 and a 1989 37+ if 
necessary but you will likely find them online on the photo album site. If I 
were you and had 10 miles to go with questionable fuel, borrow an inflatable 
(with good fuel) for the trip with about 10hp and guarantee you get there! You 
can cleat it or harness it to the transom and easily push your boat. 

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Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling

[Jerome Tauber via CnC-List]

I would go wireless.   This is from Comar Systems web site.  An NMEA WIFI unit 
provides a low cost method of setting up a wireless network on board and to use 
available Apps on your iPhone, iPad or PC to display all your electronic data 
including position, AIS data, depth, wind, compass etc.

With 2 NMEA inputs which are multiplexed to a single high
speed data output it can transmits NMEA 0183 data over WIFI for viewing on a 
smart phone or
tablet using suitable Apps or a PC Navigation program, and provides 2 way 
communication between the WIFI device and any suitable NMEA devices. With 2 
inputs, it can accept NMEA 0183 data at 4800 from any GPS, Chart plotter or 
Instruments, plus a 38400 baud input from any AIS
receiver or transponder, so you only need one unit to collect and transmit all 
the navigation data to your portable device over WIFI.
For a vessel with a chart plotter at the nav station, using the Comar 
NMEA-2-WIFI, the helmsman can view all the navigation data on deck via an iPad 
or iPhone and for boats with the chart plotter at the helm you can check all 
the critical navigation data down below, making your boats data truly portable.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:26 AM, "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Fred
>  
> This reminds me of early Ethernet and Arcnet computer network cabling.  I was 
> hoping the days or requiring a terminator were in the far distant past.
>  
> Do you recall if the i50/i60 style networks also require a terminator? It 
> seems to me I had to buy a couple of items that look like that is what they 
> are
>  
> Mike
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick 
> G Street via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:48 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Frederick G Street
> Subject: Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling
>  
> Jim — is the backbone properly terminated after your addition?  There needs 
> to be a terminator at either end of the backbone, after the final “T” for 
> equipment spurs.
>  
> Hopefully the “network” line you cut into is the backbone cable, not a spur.
>  
> In this instance, you’d have been far better to use all the same type of 
> cable/connectors as the existing backbone, then use an adapter cable to go to 
> the VHF as needed.  If the existing NMEA2k network was Maretron, for example, 
> disconnect the backbone at the location closest to the VHF, put in a Maretron 
> “T” and another backbone cable to where you broke it; then a Simrad to NMEA2k 
> adapter spur to the VHF.
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
>  
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
>  
> Joel,
>  
> Thanks for the reply.
>  
> With the NMEA 2000 cable connected, I only have the NMEA 0183 source 
> available on that menu.  That is how I drew the conclusion that the radio 
> does not see the 2000 network.
>  
> Jim
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
>  
> 
> From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 2:32 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Joel Aronson
> Subject: Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling
>  
>  
> Manual says:
>  
> This radio can use either NMEA 0183 or NMEA 2000 protocol to receive GPS data 
> from a
> compatible GPS unit.
> Note: NMEA 2000 SOURCE options will appear (up to 4 sources showing the 
> actual source
> name) only if an NMEA 2000 network is connected to the radio and is 
> operational.
> RADIO SETUP
> WX ALERT ▲
> COM PORT
> ►GPS SOURCE
> FAV CH SETU
> GPS SOURCE
> ►NMEA0183
> LGC3000
> LCX113CHD
> 1. Select RADIO SETUP then GPS SOURCE. (If there is only one NMEA protocol 
> available on
> your vessel, only that will be shown).
> 2. Select the desired NMEA source then press ENT.
>  
>  
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Hello All,
>  
> Helping a friend add a Simrad RS-35 VHF radio with AIS receiver to his 
> existing B instrument system.  That currently has 2 Triton displays, a Zeus 
> Touch 7 MFD plus wind and speed/depth transducers.  Everything is connected 
> via NMEA 2000, there is no 0183 on the boat.  There was no convenient place 
> to tap into an existing T connector, but there was an existing network line 
> running close to the radio.  We bought 2 Maretron micro-c field installable 
> connectors, a premade Maretron cable and a Lowrance T connector.  I could not 
> find Lowrance/B connectors anywhere.  I cut the network wire and wired the 
> new connectors according to the color code on the connectors.  The color code 
> on the connectors matched the colors in the B wire, so I figured I was good 
> to go.  When I hook things back up, the existing instruments work fine, but 
> the new radio is not seen by the Zeus, nor does the radio see the network.  
> Since the existing stuff all works fine, I am assuming that the wires are 
> connected in the same positions 

Re: Stus-List C Interior Wood Veneer - mid 80's

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Two Points from Ron’s post
>
>
>
> 1.  +100 to the varnished wood for interior.
>
Add me to the varnish team.  I sanded Touche's interior and applied 7 coats
of Epifanes gloss varnish in 1999.  Haven't touched it since. Looks great
today.  In fact, I just got a nice compliment on it last week.

Lot of work but worth it in my opinion.  Removed lots of trim pieces and
took home to work on.

Dennis C.
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Stus-List Removing and varnishing teak cabinetry trims - older models

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

BTW, for those contemplating varnishing interior teak, there are lots of
pieces that can be removed and taken home for working on.

On some C models, the frames around the sliding storages above the settee
and dinette are "C" molding with slots routed for the slides.  You first
need to remove the "key" piece. The key piece has one side of the "C"
missing so it is now an "L" molding.  That is usually the top piece.  You
can verify that by feeling the back side of each piece to find the one that
is the "L" piece.

Once you find it, look in the slide slots for the heads of small brads.
There should be 2-4 brads.  Use a pair of needle nose pliers to pull out
the brads.  Save them.  Once you remove the brads, the key piece should
pull straight out.  Now remove the brads from the side pieces.  They will
tilt inward and you can remove them.  The bottom piece will lift straight
up.

To re-install, simply reverse the procedure.  Set the brads with a nail set.

The frames around the cabinet doors are fastened from the inside with
square drive fasteners.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Joel — you’re correct.  The WiFi on the Raymarine MFDs is there only to allow 
connectivity for their iOS/Android apps to mirror and/or control the display.  
You can’t connect the MFD to a WiFi access point.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jerome,
> 
> My understanding is that the wifi can be transmitted to a mobile device or 
> PC, but not to a plotter.  For example, my E7 broadcasts wifi, but I don't 
> think it receives.
> Am I wrong (again)?
> 
> Joel

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Stus-List Indicator lights for breaker panel

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Where can I find indicator lights for my breaker panels?  The Blue Sea
connectors are too small (11/64).  All of the 120 volt panel lights need to
be replaced as do several 12 volt lights.

Joel
301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List C Interior Wood Veneer - mid 80's

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Two Points from Ron’s post


1.  +100 to the varnished wood for interior.  Previous three boats were not 
varnished and required oil.  Current 1987 boat came from factory with varnished 
interior and has a LOT of wood.  Never required any touchups in all the time 
since.


2.  I found it ironic that Ron blamed cruisers for a lack of interior 
maintenance.  That is usually blamed on people using a boat for racing.


We are loving our Winnebago.  Having an interior is really nice. 1987 Frers 33

Mike
Persistence
1987 Frers 33 #16
Halifax, NS



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron Casciato 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 7:30 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ron Casciato
Subject: Re: Stus-List C Interior Wood Veneer - mid 80's

Jon:  I’m in the camp that hates to use oil on wood since you will have to do 
it again sometimeI hate maintenance.

My 1977 38MKII was 20 years old when I got her in 1997, the previous owner used 
her for cruising and did absolutely no maintenance or care so the interior was 
very tired and in some cases sun bleached in the forepeak.

I sanded the entire interior and coated it with MInwax Helmsman Satin 
Urethane….I used their gloss version on the trim edges of the bulkheads, etc.

It’s been almost 20 years under my ownership ……I wipe it down with pledge 
once a year and I do not plan on ever redoing it again…it looks better than 
it did coming out of the factory.

Just my 2 cents worth,

Ron C.


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Boocock via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 5:31 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jonathan Boocock >
Subject: Stus-List C Interior Wood Veneer - mid 80's

It is time to refresh the interior of my 1986 44 and I have a section that I 
would like to re-veneer. Does anyone know what the wood veneer is on the mid 
80's C's?
Is it teak or some kind of mahogany?
The best match I have found is the Teak Veneer Quartered from Oakwood Veneers.
http://www.oakwoodveneer.com/veneers/teak-veneer.html
I have tried the Watco Danish Oil Cherry as a color match as a lister 
recommended some time ago and it seems to be a pretty good match for my boat.
Any help from someone who has worked on their wood interior would be 
appreciated.

Jon
C 44
Mor' Childs Play
Kingston, ON

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Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling

[Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List]

Hi, Mike, 

If you have a B Charplotter you can integrate it with the GoFree Wifi-1 
interface. It's not too bad expensive ($200.00) for all it does:  
http://www.amazon.com/Lowrance-000-11068-001-WIFI-1-Wireless-Bridge/dp/B00B27EN6C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8=1442025726=8-2=gofree+wifi1+wireless+module

With that you can control your Zeus  / Lowrance / Navico MFD remotely via 
an Apple or Android device.. Also, it can connect the Zeus to the internet 
and you can update the software / get additional apps directly off the 
air. 

BTW, the new software Upgrade on the Zeus-2 rocks!  It adds a "Race" mode 
which gives you a bonafide race timer complete with the synch function and 
rolling starts capability.. And the Kicker is the "what if" page that 
gives you time and distance to waypoint on Port vs Starboard tack side by 
side by comparing your actual VMG and a projected VMG based on wind 
conditions, boat speed, and bearing.  You also get a wind trend graph too 
which back-up your seat of pants  / bearing on headers and lifts   That's 
some pretty awesome stuff straight out of their high priced H5000 series 
race computers. 

François Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA



Message: 6
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 14:38:54 +
From: "Hoyt, Mike" 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling
Message-ID:
<169e312f80b4c044be2dc1780a7de72f0e9...@hfxexc11.impgroup.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>snip

 Does this mean that some sort of device such as iPad, iPhone, Android
phone, Windows Tablet can pick up this wifi signal and from that position,
wind speed, boat speed, depth, etc?  I currently have Windows Surface 2
with Navionics Boating HD and this could be useful.  (we also have all
those other devices as well).  Is there any app that we should be using on
these devices with the wifi to make them repeaters?

Thanks

Mike


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Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I am confused as well, I have not figured all the nuances out with the 
Raymarine, but I understand the Navionics takes sounding data and uploads for 
the common good. Found this on their site, does this mean it transfers date to 
your mobile device, then to them?

 

navionics.com

Press release

Plotter Sync

to include wireless 

chart updates for 

Raymarine!

Navionics, the leader in content and location-based 

services for the recreational boating and outdoor 

markets, announced today significant expansion of its 

innovative Plotter Sync functionality for use this spring 

with Raymarine WiFi-enabled multifunction displays. 

Plotter Sync leverages the power of the Navionics 

Boating and Marine & Lakes mobile applications 

for iPhone and iPad and the wireless capabilities of 

Raymarine chartplotters to deliver an exciting new level 

of data sharing to and from the Navionics Freshest Data 

servers. With Navionics Plotter Sync and a WiFi-enabled 

Raymarine system, boaters can enjoy the peace of mind 

that comes with knowing they always have the most 

current charts on their boats, as well as participate in 

the Navionics SonarCharts™ program to continuously 

enhance available mapping detail for everyone.

Plotter Sync updates Navionics chart cards with Freshest 

Data via Navionics Boating or Marine & Lakes without 

removing the card from a plotter. Plotter Sync also 

enables active SonarCharts™ users to share logged 

data quickly and easily. Logs automatically sync with 

the mobile app and are uploaded directly to the 

Navionics server for incorporation within the Navionics 

SonarCharts™ layer. Manual PC upload compatibility 

with Raymarine sonar logs will also be supported with 

Raymarine’s spring release of LightHouse II software. 

“Navionics Freshest Data is the only solution on the market 

that ensures boaters access to the most current charting 

data available on a daily basis and with Plotter Sync, 

the process of accessing that data is now effortless,” 

said 

Giuseppe Carnevali, president, Navionics. 

To use Plotter Sync, boaters with a compatible 

Raymarine WiFi-enabled system simply download 

the Navionics Boating or Marine & Lakes app to their 

iPhone or iPad, and register their new chart cards on 

the Navionics website. Freshest Data is automatically 

downloaded to the mobile app, and when connected 

wirelessly with a Raymarine plotter, the mobile device 

transmits up-to-date chart information directly to the 

chart card. The new Plotter Sync functionality is the 

latest innovative enhancement to Navionics Boating and 

Marine & Lakes — the world’s best selling mobile apps 

that provide boaters access to the same great charting 

detail, powerful features and location-based services 

and information found on today’s GPS chartplotters, 

right in the palm of their hand.

Availability

Navionics Plotter Sync for compatible chartplotters will 

be available this spring. For more information on the 

Navionics Plotter Sync or to learn more about Navionics 

and its entire product line, please visit navionics.com.

For further information please write to:

market...@navionics.com

 

 

 

Bill Coleman

C 39 Erie PA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 9:58 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling

 

Jerome,

 

My understanding is that the wifi can be transmitted to a mobile device or PC, 
but not to a plotter.  For example, my E7 broadcasts wifi, but I don't think it 
receives.

Am I wrong (again)?

 

Joel

 

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I would go wireless.   This is from Comar Systems web site.  An NMEA WIFI unit 
provides a low cost method of setting up a wireless network on board and to use 
available Apps on your iPhone, iPad or PC to display all your electronic data 
including position, AIS data, depth, wind, compass etc.


With 2 NMEA inputs which are multiplexed to a single high
speed data output it can transmits NMEA 0183 data over WIFI for viewing on a 
smart phone or
tablet using suitable Apps or a PC Navigation program, and provides 2 way 
communication between the WIFI device and any suitable NMEA devices. With 2 
inputs, it can accept NMEA 0183 data at 4800 from any GPS, Chart plotter or 
Instruments, plus a 38400 baud input from any AIS
receiver or transponder, so you only need one unit to collect and transmit all 
the navigation data to your portable device over WIFI.
For a vessel with a chart plotter at the nav station, using the Comar 
NMEA-2-WIFI, the helmsman can view all the navigation data on deck via an iPad 
or iPhone and for boats with the chart plotter at the helm you can check all 
the critical navigation data down below, making your boats data truly portable.

 


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:26 AM, "Hoyt, Mike 

Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Here is a software package that boots off of a flash drive.  No need to
install.  Lightweight linux and OpenCPN plus some other goodies.

http://marinux.pk973.org/#XINUTOP

Josh
On Sep 10, 2015 11:24 AM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Just saw this open source plotter:
>
> http://www.sailoog.com/en/openplotter
>
> Have not tried it.
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Juno via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>> good thought...  wish I had thought of that about 8 hours ago...lol
>>
>> DJH
>> On Josh Muckley via CnC-List , Sep 10, 2015 7:18
>> AM wrote:
>>
>> You should be able to install the apps on to whatever devices your google
>> account is linked to.  Just go to the app store and select "my apps".  In
>> retrospect i wish i had purchased my boating apps on an account which was
>> common between my wife and i.  As it stands now she would have to buy the
>> apps or i would have to sync my personal account to her device.  This might
>> be a good time for you to consider creating a special Gmail account just
>> for the boat.  That way all of the google services can be segregated to the
>> boat and shared or unshared to other devices simply by adding that
>> account.  (Apps, Drive, email, blogs, youtube, etc.)
>>
>> Josh
>> On Sep 10, 2015 6:44 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that,
>>> and navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install,  last night
>>> onto the Samsung galaxy 3.  So far, they both look great.  I believe I can
>>> get these onto the G Tab for no extra cost now.  So, I think I'm going to
>>> try that next.
>>>
>>> DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Kevin,
>>> >
>>> > Great suggestion on Boat Beacon.  Just downloaded it.  Thanks!
>>> >
>>> > David F. Risch
>>> > (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 +
>>> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>>> > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> > CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and
>>> Android Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa
>>> Coasts and in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for
>>> redundancy and with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me
>>> notification and/or automatically update charts whenever new NOAA
>>> information is available (a huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is
>>> also integral with both apps. MX Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was
>>> $20 for charts of all of Northern CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD
>>> Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, but normal fidelity was fine on my 7"
>>> Tablet.
>>> >
>>> > Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your
>>> MMSI #) and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell
>>> service (when I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld
>>> GPS (with outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled
>>> GPS/Chartplotters)
>>> >
>>> > If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or
>>> two phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles,
>>> bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious
>>> weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having
>>> the plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than
>>> additional hardware. But you can worry about that or not, when you get your
>>> boat home! BTW, you'll find that most delivery skippers only use a Tablet
>>> with Navionics because they can't trust the systems on the boats they are
>>> delivering. And a plug for one of the only boats/blogs that are really out
>>> there doing real sailing and not island hopping: s/v Sila, who has been
>>> using iPad Tablets successfully for years now, including around Cape Horn
>>> and a number of oceanic crossings. My 2 cents.
>>> >
>>> > Congratulations on your (almost) new boat Danny!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it
>>> all works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite
>>> lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too.
>>> >>
>>> >> The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to
>>> waterproof, it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a
>>> plotter. My old beast draws around 4-5 amps.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Joel Aronson via CnC-List
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM
>>> >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> >> Cc: Joel 

Stus-List Add me

[Leonard, David (TOR-MCL) via CnC-List]

D

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Re: Stus-List C Interior Wood Veneer - mid 80's

[Jonathan Boocock via CnC-List]

Thanks to all for the input.
It looks like I will look for a good match in pattern with with teak veneer.
I was planning to use the oil only to match the color but will use some
kind of varnish on top. The idea of not having to do any interior trim
maintenance for 30 years does appeal to me
Jon
C 44
Mor' Childs Play
Kingston,  ON
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Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

Mike

Or how about hand soldering dozens of resistors to terminate an S100 backplane. 
It was a major advance when the buss engineers learned to stop worrying and 
love reactance. 
(with apologies to Dr. Strangelove)

Steve
  - Original Message - 
  From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
  Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 08:26
  Subject: Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling


  Fred

   

  This reminds me of early Ethernet and Arcnet computer network cabling.  I was 
hoping the days or requiring a terminator were in the far distant past.

   

  Do you recall if the i50/i60 style networks also require a terminator? It 
seems to me I had to buy a couple of items that look like that is what they are

   

  Mike

   

  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick 
G Street via CnC-List
  Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:48 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Frederick G Street
  Subject: Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling

   

  Jim — is the backbone properly terminated after your addition?  There needs 
to be a terminator at either end of the backbone, after the final “T” for 
equipment spurs.

   

  Hopefully the “network” line you cut into is the backbone cable, not a spur.

   

  In this instance, you’d have been far better to use all the same type of 
cable/connectors as the existing backbone, then use an adapter cable to go to 
the VHF as needed.  If the existing NMEA2k network was Maretron, for example, 
disconnect the backbone at the location closest to the VHF, put in a Maretron 
“T” and another backbone cable to where you broke it; then a Simrad to NMEA2k 
adapter spur to the VHF.


  Fred Street -- Minneapolis
  S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

   

On Sep 10, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List 
 wrote:

 

Joel,

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

With the NMEA 2000 cable connected, I only have the NMEA 0183 source 
available on that menu.  That is how I drew the conclusion that the radio does 
not see the 2000 network.

 

Jim

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 2:32 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling

 

 

Manual says:

 

This radio can use either NMEA 0183 or NMEA 2000 protocol to receive GPS 
data from a

compatible GPS unit.

Note: NMEA 2000 SOURCE options will appear (up to 4 sources showing the 
actual source

name) only if an NMEA 2000 network is connected to the radio and is 
operational.

RADIO SETUP

WX ALERT ▲

COM PORT

►GPS SOURCE

FAV CH SETU

GPS SOURCE

►NMEA0183

LGC3000

LCX113CHD

1. Select RADIO SETUP then GPS SOURCE. (If there is only one NMEA protocol 
available on

your vessel, only that will be shown).

2. Select the desired NMEA source then press ENT.

 

 

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  Hello All,

   

  Helping a friend add a Simrad RS-35 VHF radio with AIS receiver to his 
existing B instrument system.  That currently has 2 Triton displays, a Zeus 
Touch 7 MFD plus wind and speed/depth transducers.  Everything is connected via 
NMEA 2000, there is no 0183 on the boat.  There was no convenient place to tap 
into an existing T connector, but there was an existing network line running 
close to the radio.  We bought 2 Maretron micro-c field installable connectors, 
a premade Maretron cable and a Lowrance T connector.  I could not find 
Lowrance/B connectors anywhere.  I cut the network wire and wired the new 
connectors according to the color code on the connectors.  The color code on 
the connectors matched the colors in the B wire, so I figured I was good to 
go.  When I hook things back up, the existing instruments work fine, but the 
new radio is not seen by the Zeus, nor does the radio see the network.  Since 
the existing stuff all works fine, I am assuming that the wires are connected 
in the same positions on the connectors.  When I unplug it, I lose all the 
transducers.   

   

  I am currently thinking that either the new premade cable is bad, or 
Simrad B uses a different pinout for their connectors than the one specified 
by NMEA, which Maretron follows.  I plan to test the cable using one from my 
boat, but can anyone confirm the pinout on a B system for me?  Any other 
ideas about what to check?

   

  Thanks,

   

  Jim Reinardy

  C 30-2 “Firewater”

  Milwaukee, WI



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Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Fred

This reminds me of early Ethernet and Arcnet computer network cabling.  I was 
hoping the days or requiring a terminator were in the far distant past.

Do you recall if the i50/i60 style networks also require a terminator? It seems 
to me I had to buy a couple of items that look like that is what they are

Mike

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:48 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling

Jim — is the backbone properly terminated after your addition?  There needs to 
be a terminator at either end of the backbone, after the final “T” for 
equipment spurs.

Hopefully the “network” line you cut into is the backbone cable, not a spur.

In this instance, you’d have been far better to use all the same type of 
cable/connectors as the existing backbone, then use an adapter cable to go to 
the VHF as needed.  If the existing NMEA2k network was Maretron, for example, 
disconnect the backbone at the location closest to the VHF, put in a Maretron 
“T” and another backbone cable to where you broke it; then a Simrad to NMEA2k 
adapter spur to the VHF.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Sep 10, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List 
> wrote:

Joel,

Thanks for the reply.

With the NMEA 2000 cable connected, I only have the NMEA 0183 source available 
on that menu.  That is how I drew the conclusion that the radio does not see 
the 2000 network.

Jim

Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 2:32 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling


Manual says:

This radio can use either NMEA 0183 or NMEA 2000 protocol to receive GPS data 
from a
compatible GPS unit.
Note: NMEA 2000 SOURCE options will appear (up to 4 sources showing the actual 
source
name) only if an NMEA 2000 network is connected to the radio and is operational.
RADIO SETUP
WX ALERT ▲
COM PORT
►GPS SOURCE
FAV CH SETU
GPS SOURCE
►NMEA0183
LGC3000
LCX113CHD
1. Select RADIO SETUP then GPS SOURCE. (If there is only one NMEA protocol 
available on
your vessel, only that will be shown).
2. Select the desired NMEA source then press ENT.


On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List 
> wrote:
Hello All,

Helping a friend add a Simrad RS-35 VHF radio with AIS receiver to his existing 
B instrument system.  That currently has 2 Triton displays, a Zeus Touch 7 
MFD plus wind and speed/depth transducers.  Everything is connected via NMEA 
2000, there is no 0183 on the boat.  There was no convenient place to tap into 
an existing T connector, but there was an existing network line running close 
to the radio.  We bought 2 Maretron micro-c field installable connectors, a 
premade Maretron cable and a Lowrance T connector.  I could not find 
Lowrance/B connectors anywhere.  I cut the network wire and wired the new 
connectors according to the color code on the connectors.  The color code on 
the connectors matched the colors in the B wire, so I figured I was good to 
go.  When I hook things back up, the existing instruments work fine, but the 
new radio is not seen by the Zeus, nor does the radio see the network.  Since 
the existing stuff all works fine, I am assuming that the wires are connected 
in the same positions on the connectors.  When I unplug it, I lose all the 
transducers.

I am currently thinking that either the new premade cable is bad, or Simrad B 
uses a different pinout for their connectors than the one specified by NMEA, 
which Maretron follows.  I plan to test the cable using one from my boat, but 
can anyone confirm the pinout on a B system for me?  Any other ideas about 
what to check?

Thanks,

Jim Reinardy
C 30-2 “Firewater”
Milwaukee, WI
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Stus-List Selling my 1973 C 30 MKI

[Davidmidkiff via CnC-List]

I am still trying to sell my C 30 MKI located in Portsmouth VA. She can be
seen at,   http://norfolk.craigslist.org/boa/5207912338.html,   I have
already purchased a C 35 MK III and need this boat gone.  If anyone knows
of someone looking, Serendipity is a great boat in very good condition.  I
would be willing to sell her for $7,000.00 for a quick sale.  If not I will
probably wait till Spring .

 

David E Midkiff

dmidki...@cox.net

(757) 270-9897

 

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Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling

[Barry Lenoble via CnC-List]

Hey,

 

Raymarine has the software you are looking for.

 

Go here and download:

http://www.raymarine.com/view/?id=4954

 

Barry

 

Barry Lenoble

leno...@optonline.net

Deep Blue C, 2002 C 110

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 10:39 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling

 

Fred

 

This is very interesting.

 

Our Raymarine A65 is connected to our i50 speed, i50 depth and i60 Wind and can 
display all of this data.  I note that the A65 also has wifi connectivity.

 

Does this mean that some sort of device such as iPad, iPhone, Android phone, 
Windows Tablet can pick up this wifi signal and from that position, wind speed, 
boat speed, depth, etc?  I currently have Windows Surface 2 with Navionics 
Boating HD and this could be useful.  (we also have all those other devices as 
well).  Is there any app that we should be using on these devices with the wifi 
to make them repeaters?

 

Thanks

 

Mike

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Re: Stus-List Indicator lights for breaker panel

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Joel — send me a photo and measurements and I’ll see what I can find.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Where can I find indicator lights for my breaker panels?  The Blue Sea 
> connectors are too small (11/64).  All of the 120 volt panel lights need to 
> be replaced as do several 12 volt lights.
> 
> Joel 
> 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

Actually I do too. The old 600s I have use Pentium IIs at 300 blazing MHz.

I have a T-41 too that runs Mint Linux my wife uses for general web browsing. 

I looked at that “open source” plotter. You can run OpenCPN on all manner of 
devices, but as soon as you try and buy a daylight readable waterproof display 
you just spent a lot more money than just buying a commercial marine plotter 
would cost.

My next experiment is probably going to involve getting my wife a better 
machine, retired the 600, and running OpenCPN from a Mint boot USB stick on the 
T-41. I also got a Standard-Horizon CP-180 I am trying to figure out how to 
mount.

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com  

 

COQUINA

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Melody via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:25 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Russ & Melody 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

 


A solution for geeks? A quick glance shows it's OpenCPN running on a fruit 
pie...

My solution is similar to Joe's, an old Thinkpad T-42 running Open CPN and with 
Nobeltec & CM93 charts. Internet option (wifi) disabled. The big difference is 
that I have a modern OS, XP, and something called a Pentium core processor :) 

Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1

At 08:24 AM 10/09/2015, you wrote:



Just saw this open source plotter:

http://www.sailoog.com/en/openplotter

Have not tried it.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Juno via CnC-List  > wrote:

good thought...  wish I had thought of that about 8 hours ago...lol

DJH

On Josh Muckley via CnC-List  >, Sep 10, 2015 7:18 AM wrote:

You should be able to install the apps on to whatever devices your google 
account is linked to.  Just go to the app store and select "my apps".  In 
retrospect i wish i had purchased my boating apps on an account which was 
common between my wife and i.  As it stands now she would have to buy the apps 
or i would have to sync my personal account to her device.  This might be a 
good time for you to consider creating a special Gmail account just for the 
boat.  That way all of the google services can be segregated to the boat and 
shared or unshared to other devices simply by adding that account.  (Apps, 
Drive, email, blogs, youtube, etc.)

Josh 

On Sep 10, 2015 6:44 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List"  > wrote:

OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that, and 
navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install,  last night onto the 
Samsung galaxy 3.  So far, they both look great.  I believe I can get these 
onto the G Tab for no extra cost now.  So, I think I'm going to try that next.

DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List  > wrote:

> 

> Kevin,

> 

> Great suggestion on Boat Beacon.  Just downloaded it.  Thanks!

> 

> David F. Risch

> (401) 419-4650   (cell)

> 

> 

> 

> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 +

> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  

> Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  

> CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com  

> 

> + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and Android 
> Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa Coasts and 
> in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for redundancy and 
> with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me notification and/or 
> automatically update charts whenever new NOAA information is available (a 
> huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is also integral with both apps. MX 
> Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was $20 for charts of all of Northern 
> CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, 
> but normal fidelity was fine on my 7" Tablet.

> 

> Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your MMSI #) 
> and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell service (when 
> I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld GPS (with 
> outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled GPS/Chartplotters)Â 

> 

> If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or two 
> phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles, 
> bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious 
> weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having 
> the plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than 
> additional hardware. But you can worry about that or not, when you get your 
> boat home! BTW, you'll find 

Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

There are several "computers on a stick" - Windows computers on a USB key
sized device from Intel and Lenovo.  If I already had a TV or monitor I
would consider that as a solution for the nav station.

Joel

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Actually I do too. The old 600s I have use Pentium IIs at 300 blazing MHz.
>
> I have a T-41 too that runs Mint Linux my wife uses for general web
> browsing.
>
> I looked at that “open source” plotter. You can run OpenCPN on all manner
> of devices, but as soon as you try and buy a daylight readable waterproof
> display you just spent a lot more money than just buying a commercial
> marine plotter would cost.
>
> My next experiment is probably going to involve getting my wife a better
> machine, retired the 600, and running OpenCPN from a Mint boot USB stick on
> the T-41. I also got a Standard-Horizon CP-180 I am trying to figure out
> how to mount.
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> j...@dellabarba.com
>
>
>
> COQUINA
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Russ
> & Melody via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2015 12:25 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Russ & Melody 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>
>
>
>
> A solution for geeks? A quick glance shows it's OpenCPN running on a fruit
> pie...
>
> My solution is similar to Joe's, an old Thinkpad T-42 running Open CPN and
> with Nobeltec & CM93 charts. Internet option (wifi) disabled. The big
> difference is that I have a modern OS, XP, and something called a Pentium
> core processor :)
>
> Cheers, Russ
> *Sweet *35 mk-1
>
> At 08:24 AM 10/09/2015, you wrote:
>
> Just saw this open source plotter:
>
> http://www.sailoog.com/en/openplotter
>
> Have not tried it.
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Juno via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> good thought...  wish I had thought of that about 8 hours ago...lol
>
> DJH
>
> On Josh Muckley via CnC-List , Sep 10, 2015 7:18
> AM wrote:
>
> You should be able to install the apps on to whatever devices your google
> account is linked to.  Just go to the app store and select "my apps".  In
> retrospect i wish i had purchased my boating apps on an account which was
> common between my wife and i.  As it stands now she would have to buy the
> apps or i would have to sync my personal account to her device.  This
> might be a good time for you to consider creating a special Gmail account
> just for the boat.  That way all of the google services can be segregated
> to the boat and shared or unshared to other devices simply by adding that
> account.  (Apps, Drive, email, blogs, youtube, etc.)
>
> Josh
>
> On Sep 10, 2015 6:44 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that, and
> navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install,  last night onto
> the Samsung galaxy 3.  So far, they both look great.  I believe I can get
> these onto the G Tab for no extra cost now.  So, I think I'm going to try
> that next.
>
> DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Kevin,
>
> >
>
> > Great suggestion on Boat Beacon.  Just downloaded it.  Thanks!
>
> >
>
> > David F. Risch
>
> > (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 
>
> > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 +
>
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>
> > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> > CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com
>
> >
>
> > + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and
> Android Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa
> Coasts and in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for
> redundancy and with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me
> notification and/or automatically update charts whenever new NOAA
> information is available (a huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is
> also integral with both apps. MX Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was
> $20 for charts of all of Northern CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD
> Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, but normal fidelity was fine on my 7"
> Tablet.
>
> >
>
> > Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your MMSI
> #) and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell service
> (when I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld GPS
> (with outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled
> GPS/Chartplotters)Â
>
> >
>
> > If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or two
> phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles,
> bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious
> weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not 

Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Jim — one of the parts I can get is a Lowrance to Simrad connection kit:



It has a “T”, a short spur cable and an adapter to Simrad’s drop cable.  $99.00.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Sep 10, 2015, at 4:44 PM, Frederick G Street  wrote:
> 
> Jim -- I'm pretty sure I can get the Simrad/Lowrance network parts from one 
> of my vendors.
> 
> -- Fred
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 3:02 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List  > wrote:
> 
>> Fred,
>>  
>> It’s a good thought, I will trace that back.  One of the ends has to be the 
>> wind transducer, which has an integral terminator in the B world.  I did 
>> not open up the displays to see where the terminator is on the other end 
>> though.  I assume it is at the helm on either the Zeus or one of the 
>> Tritons, but I should confirm it.  
>>  
>> I understand what you are saying about mixing vendors.  The backbone is 
>> Lowrance, the brand Simrad uses for their NMEA parts for some reason.  I 
>> really wanted to find Simrad/Lowrance connectors to go with the T connector, 
>> but could never locate a source or even a part number.   I am wondering 
>> where there installers get them, or if they have access to things I don’t.  
>> Thanks for the reply.
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>> Jim

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Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Fred

This is very interesting.

Our Raymarine A65 is connected to our i50 speed, i50 depth and i60 Wind and can 
display all of this data.  I note that the A65 also has wifi connectivity.

Does this mean that some sort of device such as iPad, iPhone, Android phone, 
Windows Tablet can pick up this wifi signal and from that position, wind speed, 
boat speed, depth, etc?  I currently have Windows Surface 2 with Navionics 
Boating HD and this could be useful.  (we also have all those other devices as 
well).  Is there any app that we should be using on these devices with the wifi 
to make them repeaters?

Thanks

Mike

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:12 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Re: Stus-List NMEA 2000 cabling

Joel — you’re correct.  The WiFi on the Raymarine MFDs is there only to allow 
connectivity for their iOS/Android apps to mirror and/or control the display.  
You can’t connect the MFD to a WiFi access point.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> wrote:

Jerome,

My understanding is that the wifi can be transmitted to a mobile device or PC, 
but not to a plotter.  For example, my E7 broadcasts wifi, but I don't think it 
receives.
Am I wrong (again)?

Joel

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Re: Stus-List remote control of Raymarine MFDs [was NMEA 2000 cabling]

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Mike — Raymarine has free software available for mobile devices (iOS and 
Android) to remotely view and control their WiFi-enabled MFDs:

http://www.raymarine.com/view/?id=3939 

You wouldn’t be able to “repeat” the position/wind/depth/speed data to your 
Navionics software; that would require a different kind of device that only 
repeats NMEA0183 or NMEA2000 data over WiFi, like this:

http://www.digitalyachtamerica.com/index.php/en/products/interfacing/nmea-to-wifi-adaptors/product/52-navlink-wireless-nmea2000-server
 


— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI


> On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Fred
>  
> This is very interesting.
>  
> Our Raymarine A65 is connected to our i50 speed, i50 depth and i60 Wind and 
> can display all of this data.  I note that the A65 also has wifi connectivity.
>  
> Does this mean that some sort of device such as iPad, iPhone, Android phone, 
> Windows Tablet can pick up this wifi signal and from that position, wind 
> speed, boat speed, depth, etc?  I currently have Windows Surface 2 with 
> Navionics Boating HD and this could be useful.  (we also have all those other 
> devices as well).  Is there any app that we should be using on these devices 
> with the wifi to make them repeaters?
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Mike

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Re: Stus-List C Interior Wood Veneer - mid 80's

[Ron Casciato via CnC-List]

HI Mike:

 

I agree with your general impressioncruisers vs racers………..however, when my 
boat was listed in Marblehead in 97, it stated that the cosmetics were less 
than average………but I knew the 38 MKII as a good boat and good for  racing……..we 
had another successful season this year……..

 

But I’m very fussy about looks and function.lots of improvements over the 
last 10 or so years and it does look brand new today….. I’m also in a slip on a 
dock with only big cruisers (power boats)………I’m the “token sailboat” so I have 
to keep the image up.  

 

The boat next to me is a Hatteras 40……..completely redone inside with granite 
countertops, 2 built-in blenders, and an ice machine……….it’s a great dock!!! 
Never a dry glass.

 

Cheers,

 

Ron C.

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 8:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C Interior Wood Veneer - mid 80's

 

Two Points from Ron’s post

 

1.  +100 to the varnished wood for interior.  Previous three boats were not 
varnished and required oil.  Current 1987 boat came from factory with varnished 
interior and has a LOT of wood.  Never required any touchups in all the time 
since.

 

2.  I found it ironic that Ron blamed cruisers for a lack of interior 
maintenance.  That is usually blamed on people using a boat for racing.

 

We are loving our Winnebago.  Having an interior is really nice. 1987 Frers 33

 

Mike

Persistence

1987 Frers 33 #16

Halifax, NS

 

 

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 7:30 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: Ron Casciato
Subject: Re: Stus-List C Interior Wood Veneer - mid 80's

 

Jon:  I’m in the camp that hates to use oil on wood since you will have to do 
it again sometimeI hate maintenance.

 

My 1977 38MKII was 20 years old when I got her in 1997, the previous owner used 
her for cruising and did absolutely no maintenance or care so the interior was 
very tired and in some cases sun bleached in the forepeak.

 

I sanded the entire interior and coated it with MInwax Helmsman Satin 
Urethane….I used their gloss version on the trim edges of the bulkheads, etc.

 

It’s been almost 20 years under my ownership ……I wipe it down with pledge 
once a year and I do not plan on ever redoing it again…it looks better than 
it did coming out of the factory.

 

Just my 2 cents worth,

 

Ron C.

 

 

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Boocock via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 5:31 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: Jonathan Boocock  >
Subject: Stus-List C Interior Wood Veneer - mid 80's

 

It is time to refresh the interior of my 1986 44 and I have a section that I 
would like to re-veneer. Does anyone know what the wood veneer is on the mid 
80's C's?

Is it teak or some kind of mahogany?

The best match I have found is the Teak Veneer Quartered from Oakwood Veneers.

http://www.oakwoodveneer.com/veneers/teak-veneer.html

I have tried the Watco Danish Oil Cherry as a color match as a lister 
recommended some time ago and it seems to be a pretty good match for my boat.

Any help from someone who has worked on their wood interior would be 
appreciated.

 

Jon

C 44

Mor' Childs Play

Kingston, ON

 

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Re: Stus-List Indicator lights for breaker panel

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

I bought LED's from Paneltronics. They fit nicely into the little rings and
are held in place with a dab of silicone on the back.
Strangely enough, Paneltronics were by far the cheapest source I found,
including big suppliers like Mouser.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 11 September 2015 at 07:58, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Joel — send me a photo and measurements and I’ll see what I can find.
>
> — Fred
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
>
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Where can I find indicator lights for my breaker panels?  The Blue Sea
> connectors are too small (11/64).  All of the 120 volt panel lights need to
> be replaced as do several 12 volt lights.
>
> Joel
> 301 541 8551
>
>
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