Re: Stus-List C Nameplate

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Dennis,
 Interesting idea.  The file is the problem, however.
Gary

~~~_/)~~


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> UPS has 3D printing services.  If one of you creates the file, several can
> get them made at their local UPS store.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> You can make out the dagger in some of the pictures at the following
>> link.  A simple graphics editor can bring it out and turn it into a
>> pattern.  Let me know if you need help.  I can probably do it if I find
>> time.
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yUklxR0VXQUd0WjA/edit
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> On Jan 3, 2016 8:03 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am trying to recreate the acrylic nameplate on the side of the cabin
>>> top on my C 37 Plus.  What I need is a good artwork of the C dagger.
>>> Can anyone shoot me a good picture of the nameplate or a C dagger.
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>> Gary
>>> '90 C 37 Plus
>>> ~~~_/)~~
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Re: Stus-List 818 messages...

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Hi Wal.

I missed the Mercy Christmas wishes to you... but I will join the 
crowd in wishing you a Happy New Year and Welcome Back.


No surprise on the number o' messages. I think it's from scourge of 
"smart phones" (which are really kinda dumb, but a whole 'nother topic).


Anyhow, a bunch of listers reply with single points now, instead of 
compiling their thoughts into a message which considers the whole 
problem expressed.


Beware. I believe Jim & I have been moved to dinosaur status. :)  

Cheers & Happy New Year, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1


At 01:23 PM 03/01/2016, you wrote:
Hey, Happy Holidays. Yes, I've been AWOL.   I've had messages pile 
up, but 818 on this list has to be a record.  I'll do a quick scan 
and see if I have anything to add.


2015 was a weird year, with surgeries and pregnant women and lots of 
tequila and market corrections and stuff.  I'm hoping 2016 will be 
better, although in retrospect I'm still living a life most only dream of.


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Re: Stus-List C Nameplate

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

UPS has 3D printing services.  If one of you creates the file, several can
get them made at their local UPS store.

Dennis C.

On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
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> You can make out the dagger in some of the pictures at the following
> link.  A simple graphics editor can bring it out and turn it into a
> pattern.  Let me know if you need help.  I can probably do it if I find
> time.
>
> https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yUklxR0VXQUd0WjA/edit
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Jan 3, 2016 8:03 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>> I am trying to recreate the acrylic nameplate on the side of the cabin
>> top on my C 37 Plus.  What I need is a good artwork of the C dagger.
>> Can anyone shoot me a good picture of the nameplate or a C dagger.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Gary
>> '90 C 37 Plus
>> ~~~_/)~~
>>
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Re: Stus-List C Nameplate

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Yeah Gary,

The old looking pictures are my boat.  The new ones are Ken Heaton's.  This
subject has come up at least twice since I've been a member of the list.
This makes the third.  Everyone is pretty convinced that Ken has the best
nameplate.  All of the 37+'ers seem up for a bulk order of nameplates.  If
you figure out a solution let us know.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Jan 3, 2016 9:59 PM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hi Josh,
>  Thanks for the pics.  Are they from your boat.  Looks like you could
> use a new one as well.  Perhaps I should go into business selling them.
>
> Gary
>
> ~~~_/)~~
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> You can make out the dagger in some of the pictures at the following
>> link.  A simple graphics editor can bring it out and turn it into a
>> pattern.  Let me know if you need help.  I can probably do it if I find
>> time.
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yUklxR0VXQUd0WjA/edit
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> On Jan 3, 2016 8:03 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am trying to recreate the acrylic nameplate on the side of the cabin
>>> top on my C 37 Plus.  What I need is a good artwork of the C dagger.
>>> Can anyone shoot me a good picture of the nameplate or a C dagger.
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>> Gary
>>> '90 C 37 Plus
>>> ~~~_/)~~
>>>
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Stus-List 818 messages...

[Wally Bryant via CnC-List]

Hey, Happy Holidays. Yes, I've been AWOL.   I've had messages pile up, 
but 818 on this list has to be a record.  I'll do a quick scan and see 
if I have anything to add.


2015 was a weird year, with surgeries and pregnant women and lots of 
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Re: Stus-List Bulkhead mounted drop down table

[Eric Baumes via CnC-List]

I have a c 34+ and I removed the table for the same reasons as you.

I have had a "temporary" table for the past couple years that we use when
cruising. I built it on one of these
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|7504|2290226|2290231=1536893.
The base is through bolted through the floor and the tube and table are
removeable.

The table top is currently plywood but I have plans to make a more
permanant one out of teak or teak veneer. When I get around to this I will
use two pedestal stands as the table is a little wobbly with only one.

I don't have a pic but I will take one next time I am at board.

In terms of the Rating the YRALIS PHRF Regulations state:

Proper Racing Trim

Yachts shall race as rated with at least all the equipment and furnishings
supplied as standard by the manufacturer. A yacht that has altered or has
removed bulkheads, permanently attached furniture, or structural interior
components shall be considered a custom yacht. Drawers, headliners, cabinet
and locker doors, steps, ladders, and engine enclosures shall remain in
place as supplied as standard equipment. If they do not so remain, then the
yacht shall be considered a custom yacht and rated accordingly. *Passageway
doors, cushions, dining tables, and carpets are specifically exempted, and
are alterable or removable provided all safety standards are met.* Lifting
keels (not designed to be adjusted while racing) must be fixed and locked
in the lowered position while racing.

You may want to check your local regs.

Eric

S/V Hee Soo


On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My 36 XL/kcb was delivered with a relatively massive table bolted to
> the the cabin sole which had 2 fold down leaves.
>
> This table sort of wrapped around the bast so that when the leaves opened,
> the table surface was centered fore and aft
> and athwartships so that 4+ people could sit around it although getting
> our from the curved port settee was difficult.
>
> To have any room for racing crew, I removed it years ago since I don't
> really cruise with the boat.
>
> I would like to build or buy a lightweight table that could be mast
> mounted (preferred) or bulkhead mounted (probably too short in this case)
> and fold up
> out of the way when not used. It would be nice to also have folding
> leaves.
>
> It might also be made to be pulled up to the underside of the coach roof
> while being constrained by the mast when not in use and
> locked to the cabin cole when in use.
>
> I would like it to be relatively light weight in either case.
>
> Any photos or ideas from the list on a similar table or a design for one?
>
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> C 36 XL/kcb
>
> cenel...@aol.com
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Re: Stus-List C Nameplate

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Hi Josh,
 Thanks for the pics.  Are they from your boat.  Looks like you could
use a new one as well.  Perhaps I should go into business selling them.

Gary

~~~_/)~~


On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> You can make out the dagger in some of the pictures at the following
> link.  A simple graphics editor can bring it out and turn it into a
> pattern.  Let me know if you need help.  I can probably do it if I find
> time.
>
> https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yUklxR0VXQUd0WjA/edit
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Jan 3, 2016 8:03 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>> I am trying to recreate the acrylic nameplate on the side of the cabin
>> top on my C 37 Plus.  What I need is a good artwork of the C dagger.
>> Can anyone shoot me a good picture of the nameplate or a C dagger.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Gary
>> '90 C 37 Plus
>> ~~~_/)~~
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Bulkhead mounted drop down table

[William Walker via CnC-List]

Eric,
  Interesting.  Lake Michigan phrf regs do not contain such an exception and 
state that base handicap "assumes standard hull AND interior".  The regs 
also reference any interior appointments that are modified or customized must 
be fully described in application.  The regs are under revision so maybe this 
will change for lmphrf.  If so, my table is GONE!
BILL WALKER
CNC 36
PENTWATER, MI

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On Sunday, January 3, 2016 Eric Baumes via CnC-List  
wrote:

I have a c 34+ and I removed the table for the same reasons as you.


I have had a "temporary" table for the past couple years that we use when 
cruising. I built it on one of these 
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|7504|2290226|2290231=1536893. 
The base is through bolted through the floor and the tube and table are 
removeable.


The table top is currently plywood but I have plans to make a more permanant 
one out of teak or teak veneer. When I get around to this I will use two 
pedestal stands as the table is a little wobbly with only one.


I don't have a pic but I will take one next time I am at board.


In terms of the Rating the YRALIS PHRF Regulations state:


Proper Racing Trim 


Yachts shall race as rated with at least all the equipment and furnishings 
supplied as standard by the manufacturer. A yacht that has altered or has 
removed bulkheads, permanently attached furniture, or structural interior 
components shall be considered a custom yacht. Drawers, headliners, cabinet and 
locker doors, steps, ladders, and engine enclosures shall remain in place as 
supplied as standard equipment. If they do not so remain, then the yacht shall 
be considered a custom yacht and rated accordingly. Passageway doors, cushions, 
dining tables, and carpets are specifically exempted, and are alterable or 
removable provided all safety standards are met. Lifting keels (not designed to 
be adjusted while racing) must be fixed and locked in the lowered position 
while racing.


You may want to check your local regs.


Eric 


S/V Hee Soo



On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
 wrote:

My 36 XL/kcb was delivered with a relatively massive table bolted to the the 
cabin sole which had 2 fold down leaves. 


This table sort of wrapped around the bast so that when the leaves opened, the 
table surface was centered fore and aft

and athwartships so that 4+ people could sit around it although getting our 
from the curved port settee was difficult.


To have any room for racing crew, I removed it years ago since I don't really 
cruise with the boat.


I would like to build or buy a lightweight table that could be mast mounted 
(preferred) or bulkhead mounted (probably too short in this case) and fold up

out of the way when not used. It would be nice to also have folding leaves. 


It might also be made to be pulled up to the underside of the coach roof while 
being constrained by the mast when not in use and

locked to the cabin cole when in use.


I would like it to be relatively light weight in either case.


Any photos or ideas from the list on a similar table or a design for one? 


Charlie Nelson

Water Phantom

C 36 XL/kcb


cenel...@aol.com


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Re: Stus-List C Nameplate

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Hi Josh,
 I have a friend with a CNC milling machine.  If we can create a
realistic part program, we can mill them out of a single sheet of 1/4"
acrylic.  The original is made of acrylic with the letters and numbers and
star glued on.  This would be all one piece so it should be more durable.
The only problem is to get a good model to create the part program from.
Then we should be able to crank out as many as we want.

Gary

~~~_/)~~


On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Yeah Gary,
>
> The old looking pictures are my boat.  The new ones are Ken Heaton's.
> This subject has come up at least twice since I've been a member of the
> list.  This makes the third.  Everyone is pretty convinced that Ken has the
> best nameplate.  All of the 37+'ers seem up for a bulk order of
> nameplates.  If you figure out a solution let us know.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Jan 3, 2016 9:59 PM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Josh,
>>  Thanks for the pics.  Are they from your boat.  Looks like you could
>> use a new one as well.  Perhaps I should go into business selling them.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> ~~~_/)~~
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You can make out the dagger in some of the pictures at the following
>>> link.  A simple graphics editor can bring it out and turn it into a
>>> pattern.  Let me know if you need help.  I can probably do it if I find
>>> time.
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yUklxR0VXQUd0WjA/edit
>>>
>>> Josh Muckley
>>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>> 1989 C 37+
>>> Solomons, MD
>>> On Jan 3, 2016 8:03 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 I am trying to recreate the acrylic nameplate on the side of the cabin
 top on my C 37 Plus.  What I need is a good artwork of the C dagger.
 Can anyone shoot me a good picture of the nameplate or a C dagger.

 TIA,
 Gary
 '90 C 37 Plus
 ~~~_/)~~


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Re: Stus-List C Nameplate

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

You can make out the dagger in some of the pictures at the following link.
A simple graphics editor can bring it out and turn it into a pattern.  Let
me know if you need help.  I can probably do it if I find time.

https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yUklxR0VXQUd0WjA/edit

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Jan 3, 2016 8:03 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> I am trying to recreate the acrylic nameplate on the side of the cabin top
> on my C 37 Plus.  What I need is a good artwork of the C dagger.  Can
> anyone shoot me a good picture of the nameplate or a C dagger.
>
> TIA,
> Gary
> '90 C 37 Plus
> ~~~_/)~~
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Re: Stus-List C Nameplate

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Hi Joseph,
 I tried the South Shore website, but no luck.  Copying the star on the
bow is a good idea, except it is covered with shrink wrap at the moment.

Thanks,
Gary

~~~_/)~~


On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Joseph Bognar via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> First thing . Is that the C Star that you are referring to ? Is it the
> same size as the one on the bow? You can transfer it and then re size it .
> South Shore Yachts may have the original in stock too
>
> Sent from Joe Bognar
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2016, at 9:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> You can make out the dagger in some of the pictures at the following
> link.  A simple graphics editor can bring it out and turn it into a
> pattern.  Let me know if you need help.  I can probably do it if I find
> time.
>
> https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yUklxR0VXQUd0WjA/edit
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Jan 3, 2016 8:03 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>> I am trying to recreate the acrylic nameplate on the side of the cabin
>> top on my C 37 Plus.  What I need is a good artwork of the C dagger.
>> Can anyone shoot me a good picture of the nameplate or a C dagger.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Gary
>> '90 C 37 Plus
>> ~~~_/)~~
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List C Nameplate

[Joseph Bognar via CnC-List]

First thing . Is that the C Star that you are referring to ? Is it the same 
size as the one on the bow? You can transfer it and then re size it . South 
Shore Yachts may have the original in stock too 

Sent from Joe Bognar


> On Jan 3, 2016, at 9:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> You can make out the dagger in some of the pictures at the following link.  A 
> simple graphics editor can bring it out and turn it into a pattern.  Let me 
> know if you need help.  I can probably do it if I find time.
> 
> https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yUklxR0VXQUd0WjA/edit
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2016 8:03 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List"  
>> wrote:
>> I am trying to recreate the acrylic nameplate on the side of the cabin top 
>> on my C 37 Plus.  What I need is a good artwork of the C dagger.  Can 
>> anyone shoot me a good picture of the nameplate or a C dagger.
>> 
>> TIA,
>> Gary
>> '90 C 37 Plus
>> ~~~_/)~~
>> 
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Re: Stus-List C Nameplate

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

When the topic came up in the past, it seemed like most people were looking
for polished stainless steel similar to what Ken has.  I'm a little
apprehensive about how plastic will look as well as how well it will hold
up.  I'm not familiar with "part programs" but I can probably come up with
a line diagram kind similar to a blueprint.

Josh
On Jan 3, 2016 10:43 PM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hi Josh,
>  I have a friend with a CNC milling machine.  If we can create a
> realistic part program, we can mill them out of a single sheet of 1/4"
> acrylic.  The original is made of acrylic with the letters and numbers and
> star glued on.  This would be all one piece so it should be more durable.
> The only problem is to get a good model to create the part program from.
> Then we should be able to crank out as many as we want.
>
> Gary
>
> ~~~_/)~~
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>> Yeah Gary,
>>
>> The old looking pictures are my boat.  The new ones are Ken Heaton's.
>> This subject has come up at least twice since I've been a member of the
>> list.  This makes the third.  Everyone is pretty convinced that Ken has the
>> best nameplate.  All of the 37+'ers seem up for a bulk order of
>> nameplates.  If you figure out a solution let us know.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> On Jan 3, 2016 9:59 PM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Josh,
>>>  Thanks for the pics.  Are they from your boat.  Looks like you
>>> could use a new one as well.  Perhaps I should go into business selling
>>> them.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> ~~~_/)~~
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 You can make out the dagger in some of the pictures at the following
 link.  A simple graphics editor can bring it out and turn it into a
 pattern.  Let me know if you need help.  I can probably do it if I find
 time.

 https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yUklxR0VXQUd0WjA/edit

 Josh Muckley
 S/V Sea Hawk
 1989 C 37+
 Solomons, MD
 On Jan 3, 2016 8:03 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" <
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am trying to recreate the acrylic nameplate on the side of the cabin
> top on my C 37 Plus.  What I need is a good artwork of the C dagger.
> Can anyone shoot me a good picture of the nameplate or a C dagger.
>
> TIA,
> Gary
> '90 C 37 Plus
> ~~~_/)~~
>
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Re: Stus-List C Nameplate

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

It's pretty obvious we have to go with Gary's 
idea of using the friends CNC machine.


Do we need to spell it out... C N C machine? Ha ha ha.

Cheers, Russ
It's late now, getting tired.

At 07:51 PM 03/01/2016, you wrote:
UPS has 3D printing services.  If one of you 
creates the file, several can get them made at their local UPS store.


Dennis C.

On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Josh Muckley via 
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


You can make out the dagger in some of the 
pictures at the following link.  A simple 
graphics editor can bring it out and turn it 
into a pattern.  Let me know if you need 
help.  I can probably do it if I find time.


https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yUklxR0VXQUd0WjA/edit

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Jan 3, 2016 8:03 AM, "Gary Russell via 
CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I am trying to recreate the acrylic nameplate on 
the side of the cabin top on my C 37 
Plus.  What I need is a good artwork of the C 
dagger.  Can anyone shoot me a good picture of the nameplate or a C dagger.


TIA,
Gary
'90 C 37 Plus
~~~_/)~~


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Re: Stus-List Automatic bilge pump switch help

[Dave via CnC-List]

In my 33ii

Had been thinking of using my rarely-used shower pan drain pump and connecting 
it to a diverter valve which would select between the bilge and the shower.   
Would plumb a hose and wire a float switch in the bilge, with a solid state 
relay by the existing switch in the head,  wired in parallel.  Rewire at the 
panel for 24/7.   This in my 33ii, and supplemental to the stock diaphragm pump.
(Incidentally, The remote pump and separate switch arrangement prevents the 
cycling pump issue, at the expense of a little water in the bilge.)
Anyone done this?   
Dave.

 

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You can do one of the following:
- Raise the mounting of the water witch.
- Use a smaller diameter, or shorter hose

Check valves are designed for preventing instantaneous backflow.
Pretty much all of them will eventually leak the water back into the bilge,
so you will still cycle, only with a longer period.
If you want to go that road, you can install a normally closed valve that
opens when the bilge pump comes on.
However, this adds complication to the system which is never a good thing.
I prefer a small bilge pump (500 gph) with a small diameter (3/8 id) hose
to keep the bilge dry, and a larger (2000 gph) one (1-1/2 id) with a higher
float switch if more pumping is needed.
Ahmet
Boston, MA

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Stus-List Baby stay track end cap

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

Our baby stay is attached to the deck via Kenyon 1 1/4 inch traveler using 
track model 1169.  The track is an extrusion with 2 vertical and 2 horizontal 
surfaces with hollow center.   The jib sheets can get caught and chafed on the 
forward edge so am looking for a cap to cover the end and provide a smooth 
surface.  Tried Rigrite who list the cap on their web site but they advise they 
are no longer available.  Defender has several on its web site, but are for 
slipping over current track designs and will not fit



Any thoughts?





John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C 34

Noank, CT



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Re: Stus-List Baby stay track end cap

[Jerome Tauber via CnC-List]

I was able to modify the new Schaefer end stops to fit the old track with a 
little carving.   Might work for Kenyon.  Rig Right sells the new stop.  Very 
close.  Jerry

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> On Jan 3, 2016, at 10:39 AM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
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> Our baby stay is attached to the deck via Kenyon 1 1/4 inch traveler using 
> track model 1169.  The track is an extrusion with 2 vertical and 2 horizontal 
> surfaces with hollow center.   The jib sheets can get caught and chafed on 
> the forward edge so am looking for a cap to cover the end and provide a 
> smooth surface.  Tried Rigrite who list the cap on their web site but they 
> advise they are no longer available.  Defender has several on its web site, 
> but are for slipping over current track designs and will not fit
>  
> Any thoughts?
>  
>  
> John and Maryann
> Legacy III
> 1982 C 34
> Noank, CT
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List storage modifications - first aid kit/case bracket

[Dave Syer via CnC-List]

http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/

Simple little project.

Dave
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Re: Stus-List Bilge pump switch

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I have the water witch, & my primary water is from the mast also and I have 
never had a problem -


Bill Coleman 

 Original message 
From: Ted Drossos via CnC-List  
Date: 01/02/2016  11:15 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Ted Drossos  
Subject: Stus-List Bilge pump switch 

When I was looking to replace my automatic bilge pump switch, the Water Witch 
was high on my list of choices until I read this note on the Water Witch 
website. 















NOTE:










If large amounts of rain water can enter the bilge, it may dilute the normal, 
fresh or salt, water outside our
sensitivity window. Corrective action can be to switch pump on manually to 
remove diluted water or to
add minerals such as salt, baking soda, bilge cleaners, etc... NORMAL FRESH 
WATER HAS AMPLE
MINERAL CONTENT FOR PROPER OPERATION. 





Since the only water coming into my boat is rainwater from the keel stepped 
mast, the Water Witch was no longer a viable option. Some people who install 
this switch may not be aware of this shortcoming which can cause unexpected non 
performance. 





Ted Drossos

Long Island, NY

C 29-2 (for sale)  

C 110







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Stus-List C Nameplate

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

I am trying to recreate the acrylic nameplate on the side of the cabin top
on my C 37 Plus.  What I need is a good artwork of the C dagger.  Can
anyone shoot me a good picture of the nameplate or a C dagger.

TIA,
Gary
'90 C 37 Plus
~~~_/)~~
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Re: Stus-List Clever storage modifications?

[Dave Syer via CnC-List]

Was eyeing the same space and will order a Bomar access hatch to do just
that on the 33ii.   No teak and holly, just a fiberglass liner that traps a
small storage/ventialtion/inspection opportunity.  There's a much larger
wasted space under the v-berth on the 33ii that has a plan attached.

Dave


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The section of sole under my nav table, where I put my feet, was just
screwed down to the interior liner. I pulled it up and cut a hole in the
liner, accessing an area big enough for tool storage so I can use the top
drawer for something else. It's far enough aft and high enough that any
bilge water doesn't find its way up there. I hinged the teak and holly to
be a lid.


Andy
C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA02840


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Stus-List Bigle pump line routing...

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Happy New Year listers!

The recent thread on bilge pump switches and the back flow problems attendant 
is of interest to me in another manner.

I’m just finishing up painting the bilge and will be planning a two bilge pump 
installation to replace the original small single pump. The original 37’ 
electric bilge pump design routed a line from the pump near the base of the 
mast step up to a tee in the starboard cockpit drain. Along with that line was 
another, smaller,tee connection for the starboard deck scupper drain. The port 
side had a similar set up just for the port scupper drain.  The “major” water 
removal pump is the manual diaphragm pump in the cockpit next to the wheel. 
Outside of the manual bilge pump, I have always hated the other systems.

My plan for the refit is to run a dedicated line from a new, large capacity, 
electric bilge pump straight aft to a new through-hull in the stern counter, 
just above (below?) the outflow for the current manual bilge discharge.  This 
pump intake will be placed at a higher level and reserved for large amounts of 
water in the bilge. The scupper drain lines and tees have been removed and 
closed off.

My problem is what to do with the line from the current smaller bilge pump that 
is used to remove the “regular” bilge water. Short of drilling yet another hole 
in the stern counter, I will have to run it back to its existing tee on the 
starboard cockpit drain.

Any different and novel layouts or ideas amongst the listers that might 
alleviate this problem?

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 
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Stus-List Bilge pump switch

[Ted Drossos via CnC-List]

Dennis, the "Ultra Safety Systems" bilge pump switch you recommended is the one 
I ultimately selected. Very nice piece of gear. I'm using the model with the 
optional remote high water alarm. I'm wondering if the high water alarm 
function could activate another bilge pump in the event of emergency. Any 
thoughts on that?


Ted Drossos
Long Island, NY
C 29-2 (for sale)
C 110
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Re: Stus-List Bilge pump switch

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Interesting idea but I'd be concerned about the current draw.  The alarm
circuit may not be designed to handle the amperage of a pump.

Dennis C.

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> Dennis, the "Ultra Safety Systems" bilge pump switch you recommended is
> the one I ultimately selected. Very nice piece of gear. I'm using the model
> with the optional remote high water alarm. I'm wondering if the high water
> alarm function could activate another bilge pump in the event of emergency.
> Any thoughts on that?
>
> Ted Drossos
> Long Island, NY
> C 29-2 (for sale)
> C 110
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Re: Stus-List Baby stay track end cap

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

Have  a look at small SS mast steps--mounted on the ends of my genoa tracks and 
forward of my former baby stay track. You just mount them
with the underside facing forward so that the supports form a 3 pronged SS, low 
profile 'cage' that forces any lines up and over them.


Charlies Nelson
Water Phantom
1995 C 36 XL/kcb
Greenville, NC


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From: John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
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Cc: John and Maryann Read 
Sent: Sun, Jan 3, 2016 10:40 am
Subject: Stus-List Baby stay track end cap



Our baby stay is attached to the deck via Kenyon 1 1/4 inch traveler using 
track model 1169.  The track is an extrusion with 2 vertical and 2 horizontal 
surfaces with hollow center.   The jib sheets can get caught and chafed on the 
forward edge so am looking for a cap to cover the end and provide a smooth 
surface.  Tried Rigrite who list the cap on their web site but they advise they 
are no longer available.  Defender has several on its web site, but are for 
slipping over current track designs and will not fit
 
Any thoughts?
 
 
John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C 34
Noank, CT










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Re: Stus-List Bilge pump switch

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

If not, you can always add a relay.

Marek

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From: Dennis C. via CnC-List
Sent: January 3, 2016 12:06
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Bilge pump switch

Interesting idea but I'd be concerned about the current draw.  The alarm 
circuit may not be designed to handle the amperage of a pump.
Dennis C.

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 wrote:
Dennis, the "Ultra Safety Systems" bilge pump switch you recommended is the one 
I ultimately selected. Very nice piece of gear. I'm using the model with the 
optional remote high water alarm. I'm wondering if the high water alarm 
function could activate another bilge pump in the event of emergency. Any 
thoughts on that? 

Ted Drossos
Long Island, NY
C 29-2 (for sale)
C 110

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