Re: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?

[Richard N. Bush via CnC-List]

 Dave, I use a danforth as my second anchor; 35 lb CQR as primary; last 
Saturday I rode out a line of several squalls which came from 180 degrees 
opposite of my primary anchor position, the danforth held through all of them; 
while several boat, which had set only a bow anchor struggled and drug anchors; 
we were in about 14 ft. of water with a mud bottom...  so, the danforths do 
work; although, if I were in sand or rock, I might want one of those 
fortresses!  

 


Richard
s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River Mile 584.4

Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

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Sent: Sun, Aug 28, 2016 8:56 pm
Subject: Stus-List  Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?




Quite a pair of testimonials... And some interesting replies.


Based on  the replies here  and much of what I've read online, there is little 
point in having a danforth type when a larger and smaller rocna, delta or Bruce 
type would cover both bower and kedge applications.   What does surprise me is 
the hype around the fortress, which many find troublesome or impossible to set 
in certain conditions.  (As I did)  Will play around with mine a bit more, but 
will certainly invest in something more consistently reliable.


Thanks. Dave.






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Re: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Nobody mentioned the Ultra?  I see them at the Annapolis boat show and they
are quite confident of their superiority.  I don't know.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Aug 27, 2016 8:08 PM, "Syerdave--- via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Interesting few hours today doing an anchor test.   A young guy at  port
> Whitby marina was looking for an anchor for his tanzer 26, to replace the
> really tiny and cheap ski-boat danforth type that came with his boat (and
> had proved impossible to set).  We had discussed over beverages a few times.
> I thought to try my (never tried) fortress fx-7 lunch hook - 120' rode,
> 10' chain.   We dragged it all over the bay at 8:1 or better scope.  Could
> feel it bumping along a hard bottom.It finally hooked up and was kinda
> sideways.   Now the bottom is, I think, a rock shelf under silt and clay,
> but I don't really know.
> We parked his boat and returned with Windstar (my 33 mkii) and her 10kg
> Bruce with 50' heavy chain.  (Plus 150' rode) Let out the chain only,
> dragged 20' and set hard.  You could feel and hear it bumping over a very
> hard bottom before it did so.   Should have tried in 2 or 3 locations to
> prove it was not a fluke.   (So to speak)
>  He now wants a load of chain and a 10kg anchor for his 4000lb boat!
> Lol
> Anyway, the fortress isn't going to work for me.  What do folks use and
> trust as a lunch hook/kedge?  As always, thanks.
> Dave.
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Re: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

I can attest to the difficulty of setting a Fortress unless set in relatively 
calm conditions, even with a soft mud bottom.


It was one of 2 anchors I used when I anchored out in a local creek during 
Hurricane Irene's visit to NC in 2011. I set it and a bigger Danforth (~50 lbs) 
in calm water at about 50 degrees apart and both held without difficulty as the 
storm passed with barely Hurricane force winds. Boat was unscathed but had 
rotated at least once around the anchors as the wind veered. Both anchors were 
set well and took a bunch of work to release. 


OTOH, in a severe T-storm which blew the water out of a dock I was trying to 
reach without a motor, the Fortress refused to grab the bottom with 10-12 feet 
of chain and over 200 feet of rode in ~ 5 feet of water. Since the boat was 
being pushed by the wind (no sails up), it was moving toward some covered docks 
and my crew and I could not get it to set--it evidently was sliding over the 
bottom without the points digging in because we were moving a little too fast.


After some serious 'swearing' and a few prayers as Water Phantom headed toward 
the covered dock, I realized that the storm had pushed so much water out of the 
creek I was in that I was now in about 4 feet of water. Then it hit me---I 
screamed above the howling wind and rain to my only crew to "...DROP THE 
...DAMM CENTERBOARD..."  When its ~ 1000 lbs of fin shaped lead hit the 
bottom--we stopped like we had hit a rock and did not move while the storm 
continued for about 15 minutes. 


When it passed, I saw a wave front coming into the creek about 2 feet high 
which restored the water depth but my board still held. A few minutes later, 
the sun was out and a friendly powerboat came by and towed us to the 
dock--centerboard up of course.


Like a lot of things in sailing, when you really need an anchor or a knife, you 
need a REAL anchor or a REAL knife, not something that might do the job but 
something that HAS to do the job.


Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
1995 C XL/kcb
Oriental, NC



cenel...@aol.com




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Subject: Stus-List  Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?




Quite a pair of testimonials... And some interesting replies.


Based on  the replies here  and much of what I've read online, there is little 
point in having a danforth type when a larger and smaller rocna, delta or Bruce 
type would cover both bower and kedge applications.   What does surprise me is 
the hype around the fortress, which many find troublesome or impossible to set 
in certain conditions.  (As I did)  Will play around with mine a bit more, but 
will certainly invest in something more consistently reliable.


Thanks. Dave.


From: David Knecht 
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?
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I recently had my first anchor test.  We were in Coechles harbor on Shelter 
Island overnight and a 50+ knot squall blew through at 2AM.  I have a Rocna (I 
believe it is the 27 lb) with 20? of chain and I had about 70? of line which is 
about 6:1 in that area.  I was one of the few boats that did not drag out of 
about 20 in the anchorage.  It was nerve wracking to try to monitor, but now I 
have a great deal more confidence for the next time.  I would also set an 
anchor watch next time so I could monitor my position from the cabin.  I was 
concerned that I would have trouble getting the anchor up the next morning 
(still blowing 20+ and no windlass) but it came right out when we motored 
slowly forward.  The only problem I have is that the Rocna does not fit under 
the bow pulpit because of the large hoop.  I was considering putting it in the 
anchor compartment while racing, but when I realized I could not take it off 
without disconnecting it from the chain, I decided to leave it in place.  Dave

Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT
From: David Knecht 
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I recently had my first anchor test.  We were in Coechles harbor on Shelter 
Island overnight and a 50+ knot squall blew through at 2AM.  I have a Rocna (I 
believe it is the 27 lb) with 20? of chain and I had about 70? of line which is 
about 6:1 in that area.  I was one of the few boats that did not drag out of 
about 20 in the anchorage.  It was nerve wracking to try to monitor, but now I 
have a great deal more confidence for the next time.  I would also set an 
anchor watch next time so I could monitor my position from 

Re: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

If you are still looking for more opinions on anchors and anchoring, there was 
a long discussion on the topic at SBO 
(http://forums.sailboatowners.com/index.php?threads/static-tests-versus-field-use-true-holding-power-of-anchor-types.180538/)
 . Some of the comments were quite similar to the opinions expressed here.

Marek

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From: Syerdave--- via CnC-List
Sent: August 28, 2016 20:56
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Cc: syerd...@gmail.com
Subject: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?

Quite a pair of testimonials... And some interesting replies.

Based on  the replies here  and much of what I've read online, there is little 
point in having a danforth type when a larger and smaller rocna, delta or Bruce 
type would cover both bower and kedge applications.   What does surprise me is 
the hype around the fortress, which many find troublesome or impossible to set 
in certain conditions.  (As I did)  Will play around with mine a bit more, but 
will certainly invest in something more consistently reliable.

Thanks. Dave.

From: David Knecht 
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?
Message-ID: <5573f535-4e2d-4734-8a4d-c1d071051...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I recently had my first anchor test.  We were in Coechles harbor on Shelter 
Island overnight and a 50+ knot squall blew through at 2AM.  I have a Rocna (I 
believe it is the 27 lb) with 20? of chain and I had about 70? of line which is 
about 6:1 in that area.  I was one of the few boats that did not drag out of 
about 20 in the anchorage.  It was nerve wracking to try to monitor, but now I 
have a great deal more confidence for the next time.  I would also set an 
anchor watch next time so I could monitor my position from the cabin.  I was 
concerned that I would have trouble getting the anchor up the next morning 
(still blowing 20+ and no windlass) but it came right out when we motored 
slowly forward.  The only problem I have is that the Rocna does not fit under 
the bow pulpit because of the large hoop.  I was considering putting it in the 
anchor compartment while racing, but when I realized I could not take it off 
without disconnecting it from the chain, I decided to leave it in place.  Dave

Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT
From: David Knecht 
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I recently had my first anchor test.  We were in Coechles harbor on Shelter 
Island overnight and a 50+ knot squall blew through at 2AM.  I have a Rocna (I 
believe it is the 27 lb) with 20? of chain and I had about 70? of line which is 
about 6:1 in that area.  I was one of the few boats that did not drag out of 
about 20 in the anchorage.  It was nerve wracking to try to monitor, but now I 
have a great deal more confidence for the next time.  I would also set an 
anchor watch next time so I could monitor my position from the cabin.  I was 
concerned that I would have trouble getting the anchor up the next morning 
(still blowing 20+ and no windlass) but it came right out when we motored 
slowly forward.  The only problem I have is that the Rocna does not fit under 
the bow pulpit because of the large hoop.  I was considering putting it in the 
anchor compartment while racing, but when I realized I could not take it off 
without disconnecting it from the chain, I decided to leave it in place.  Dave

Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT
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Re: Stus-List 33-2 - what's in the fridge?

[jim schwartz via CnC-List]

hi guys...its been a real education reading all your  replies on this subject.  
i have installed a norcold on my 38 LF.  the system is installed beneath my 
quarter berth where the fresh water pump is also located. my big question is 
insulation around the icebox. does the factory spray any foam in?  i would like 
to drill some holes into the box, from the inside.  where is it safe to drill? 
then seal the holes after the foam is sprayed in.  any photos? thanks for any 
input you may have.
jim schwartz
SEA YA!
CC 38 LF
washington, nc



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From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
To: C List 
Cc: Josh Muckley 
Sent: Thu, Jul 7, 2016 8:14 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List 33-2 - what's in the fridge?



Dave, 
Any fridge systems that have the danfoss compressor (Nova Cool, Alder Barbour, 
etc.) are probably compatible with the Stainless Lobster fridge controller.  
This would be the upgrade that I would strongly consider prior to replacing a 
perfectly good system.  Some of the manufacturers (Nova Cool) will 
refurbish/recharge your used system for a reasonable price (~$100).  The 
threaded connections are well design to be lossless when connected/disconnected.
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Jul 6, 2016 1:42 PM, "Dave via CnC-List"  wrote:


Thanks Paul, Edd.


My original refrigerAtion unit (nova cool?) is still working so I had not 
planned to  tackle that quite yet. Will research Engels and Adler Barbour.   Is 
the upgrade worthwhile or is this really something to consider once replacement 
is necessary?  


The all in one approach looks very elegant - Paul, do you have a photo of the 
install?  Curious.


And...  Lol ... I guess I have not been whacked in the head quite enough to 
have thought of the single piece hinged lid approach.  What a great idea. 
Thanks!


Dave


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Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 18:16:11 +
From: Paul Fountain 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 33-2 - what's in the fridge?
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Dave,

We added an all in one refrigeration unit to our 33-2, one of the best upgrades 
yet! Used this unit 
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/waeco-adler-barbour--coolmatic-cooling-conversion-kit--7895881

installed it on the cockpit side of the icebox, had to cut the cockpit bulkhead 
also. The insulation was in good shape, and about 3" thick. Last weekend we 
found ice in some of the water bottles after we left it turned a bit too far 
down.

We also reworked the lid, as I got tired of it hitting me. I removed the hinges 
on the back side, and hinged it in the middle so it folds onto its other half. 
This also means we can remove completely to fill, empty or clean the icebox.

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On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 1:30 PM -0400, "Dave Syer via CnC-List" 
> wrote:

Hi All,
Seems the boat is never "done".I read a recent thread here on older 
iceboxes and the benefit of improved insulation, and wonder about my '85.
As other work gets done, the ice box has moved up the project list a bit.

I replaced the gasket and the manual drain pump, and will need to tighten the 
lid screws to address wear/lid wobble, (might need screw holes filled) and 
replace the rusting and now detached wire basket/shelf inside.  For sure the 
small gap between the two lid sections could be sealed somehow, and I will cut 
a closed-cell foam "blanket" to cover the top.  This should help deal with the 
gap as well as insulate a bit better.   After that, the work gets more invasive 
as the insulated (we hope) cavities are quite difficult to access.

Has anyone tackled a 33-2 ice box?  I am wondering mostly about the amount of 
insulation and whether it was installed effectively.   Any thoughts or advice 
would be much appreciated!

Dave Syer
'85 33-2 Windstar.
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Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 14:33:02 -0400
From: Edd Schillay 
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Dave,

I?ve heard a lot of good things about Engel ? it?s what I?m planning on using 
when I redo the refrigeration on the Enterprise.

See: 
http://www.engelcoolers.com/fridge-freezers/shop-by-adventure/rv/scqt-4408f-u1-i
 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 

Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?

[Syerdave--- via CnC-List]

Quite a pair of testimonials... And some interesting replies.

Based on  the replies here  and much of what I've read online, there is little 
point in having a danforth type when a larger and smaller rocna, delta or Bruce 
type would cover both bower and kedge applications.   What does surprise me is 
the hype around the fortress, which many find troublesome or impossible to set 
in certain conditions.  (As I did)  Will play around with mine a bit more, but 
will certainly invest in something more consistently reliable.

Thanks. Dave.

From: David Knecht 
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?
Message-ID: <5573f535-4e2d-4734-8a4d-c1d071051...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I recently had my first anchor test.  We were in Coechles harbor on Shelter 
Island overnight and a 50+ knot squall blew through at 2AM.  I have a Rocna (I 
believe it is the 27 lb) with 20? of chain and I had about 70? of line which is 
about 6:1 in that area.  I was one of the few boats that did not drag out of 
about 20 in the anchorage.  It was nerve wracking to try to monitor, but now I 
have a great deal more confidence for the next time.  I would also set an 
anchor watch next time so I could monitor my position from the cabin.  I was 
concerned that I would have trouble getting the anchor up the next morning 
(still blowing 20+ and no windlass) but it came right out when we motored 
slowly forward.  The only problem I have is that the Rocna does not fit under 
the bow pulpit because of the large hoop.  I was considering putting it in the 
anchor compartment while racing, but when I realized I could not take it off 
without disconnecting it from the chain, I decided to leave it in place.  Dave

Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT
From: David Knecht 
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?
Message-ID: <5573f535-4e2d-4734-8a4d-c1d071051...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I recently had my first anchor test.  We were in Coechles harbor on Shelter 
Island overnight and a 50+ knot squall blew through at 2AM.  I have a Rocna (I 
believe it is the 27 lb) with 20? of chain and I had about 70? of line which is 
about 6:1 in that area.  I was one of the few boats that did not drag out of 
about 20 in the anchorage.  It was nerve wracking to try to monitor, but now I 
have a great deal more confidence for the next time.  I would also set an 
anchor watch next time so I could monitor my position from the cabin.  I was 
concerned that I would have trouble getting the anchor up the next morning 
(still blowing 20+ and no windlass) but it came right out when we motored 
slowly forward.  The only problem I have is that the Rocna does not fit under 
the bow pulpit because of the large hoop.  I was considering putting it in the 
anchor compartment while racing, but when I realized I could not take it off 
without disconnecting it from the chain, I decided to leave it in place.  Dave

Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT
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Re: Stus-List Northeast Rendezvous - Mystic Food Festival

[BillBinaList via CnC-List]

Also, especially for those who may be arriving Friday, New London Harbor 
(Thames River) is 5 miles west of the Mystic River. The parade on Friday 
should be a treat. In years past, the parade has exited the Thames River 
and made a large loop out into the Long Island Sound before going back in.




The ships: 

Bill Bina

On 8/26/2016 11:28 AM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List wrote:

Hi,

Just an update for those planning or considering attending this years 
gathering at the Mystic Seaport.


The town of Mystic is holding a "Riverside Food Festival" that same 
weekend.  Live music and food from over 30 restaurants.  Entry is 
free, food tickets are $1 each!


The festival will be at Mystic Riverside Park.  It is about 3/4 of a 
mile walk from the Mystic Seaport and there is a large floating dinghy 
dock located at the park.


http://www.mysticeats.com

http://mysticdowntown.org

http://cncnortheast.com

Rob Gallagher
HANUMAN
30MKII



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Re: Stus-List Cabin LED lights

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Ditto for Alpenglow on both my 25 and 38.

Rick Brass
Washington, NC



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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Fitzgerald via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 6:43 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jack Fitzgerald 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cabin LED lights

Yes, I used Alpenglow led lights in my 39TM

Best regards 
Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY 
US12788
C 39TM
Savannah, GA USA

> On Aug 28, 2016, at 18:15, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
 wrote:
> 
> Has anyone replaced the old square plastic C cabin dome lights with LED?
Any suggestions for easy replacement (Entire unit not bulb)?  Thanks. Jerry.
C 27 mkv.  J  
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Re: Stus-List Cabin LED lights

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Jerry,

I replaced practically all of my interior lights with these:

http://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--8-led-4-white-4-red-dome-light-white-off-red-switch-positions--9265950?recordNum=8

They fit in pretty much the same footprint as the old lights, use much less 
power, and they switch to red only for night sailing. 


All the best,

Edd

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On Aug 28, 2016, at 6:15 PM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List  
wrote:

Has anyone replaced the old square plastic C cabin dome lights with LED?   
Any suggestions for easy replacement (Entire unit not bulb)?  Thanks. Jerry. 
C 27 mkv.  J  

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Re: Stus-List Cabin LED lights

[Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List]

Yes, I used Alpenglow led lights in my 39TM

Best regards 
Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY 
US12788
C 39TM
Savannah, GA USA

> On Aug 28, 2016, at 18:15, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone replaced the old square plastic C cabin dome lights with LED?   
> Any suggestions for easy replacement (Entire unit not bulb)?  Thanks. Jerry. 
> C 27 mkv.  J  
> 
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Re: Stus-List Cabin LED lights

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Funny you should say...I just replaced all the saloon and galley lights with 
dim able warm white LEDs from my friend Dwight at IMTRA. The ones over the nav 
table and galley are bi-color; red and white and worked a treat last night 
coming out of the Bay of Fundy.
The warm white color makes the cabin warm and inviting and at full strength we 
can see stuff for a change.
 For most of the cabin, I had enough clearance between the liner and the inside 
of the deck to recess the lights flush, for places where I couldn't do that I 
had teak disks made to stand them out and varnished up, they look like they 
were made to be there.
Not cheap, but worth dropping the money for the high quality stuff.

Andy
C 40 
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
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> On Aug 28, 2016, at 18:15, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone replaced the old square plastic C cabin dome lights with LED?   
> Any suggestions for easy replacement (Entire unit not bulb)?  Thanks. Jerry. 
> C 27 mkv.  J  
> 
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Stus-List Cabin LED lights

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Has anyone replaced the old square plastic C cabin dome lights with LED?   
Any suggestions for easy replacement (Entire unit not bulb)?  Thanks. Jerry. 
C 27 mkv.  J  

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Re: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I recently had my first anchor test.  We were in Coechles harbor on Shelter 
Island overnight and a 50+ knot squall blew through at 2AM.  I have a Rocna (I 
believe it is the 27 lb) with 20’ of chain and I had about 70’ of line which is 
about 6:1 in that area.  I was one of the few boats that did not drag out of 
about 20 in the anchorage.  It was nerve wracking to try to monitor, but now I 
have a great deal more confidence for the next time.  I would also set an 
anchor watch next time so I could monitor my position from the cabin.  I was 
concerned that I would have trouble getting the anchor up the next morning 
(still blowing 20+ and no windlass) but it came right out when we motored 
slowly forward.  The only problem I have is that the Rocna does not fit under 
the bow pulpit because of the large hoop.  I was considering putting it in the 
anchor compartment while racing, but when I realized I could not take it off 
without disconnecting it from the chain, I decided to leave it in place.  Dave

Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Re: Stus-List Keel Centerboard Damage Liability

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

FWIW, I have had a few groundings with my board almost all the way up (about 6" 
of board exposed--I do not grind it up completely within the trunk since with 
sea critters, it can get stuck there) and many more with it down of course! 


The only time I saw keel damage was when I hit a submerged cypress stump at 4-5 
knots--this is the NC Sounds equivalent of a New England rock ledge!.


The forward edge of the trunk had a pretty big dent in it but otherwise, except 
for a crew injury when one was pitched forward, no big deal. I have replaced my 
board once and got many good looks at the trunk, which is mostly lead with some 
fiberglass covering for fairing. I don't think there is a reasonable chance in 
hell that the trunk could be damaged severely in a grounding. With the board 
down, it will take the hit and most likely be pushed up into the trunk, 
assuming you were not moving in reverse.


My rudder depth is set at the depth of the trunk so it has never been damaged 
in any of my groundings. 


Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
1995 C XL/kcb
Oriental, NC





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From: Bernard Bauman via CnC-List 
To: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
Cc: Bernard Bauman <2bbau...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Aug 28, 2016 12:08 pm
Subject: Stus-List Keel Centerboard Damage Liability


I am looking at some C with keel centerboards. I have concerns about 
potential keel damage in event of grounding with the centerboard up.  Not 
knowing exact construction, I wonder if bottom portion of keel is lead or 
fiberglass. Owners experience appreciated. 
Also what has been K/CB owners experience with rudder in grounding, which is 
about as low as keel?
Thanks,
Bernie
Ex-C owner looking for new one.

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Re: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?

[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

Don't forget the Delta Sure Set.  Spent a year on the hook and 30 kt winds were 
not uncommon and once saw gusts of 50 kts.  Scope has everything to do with a 
good set.

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Aug 28, 2016, at 12:12 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> From my past experience, a danforth (or a similar design like a Fortress) 
> doesn’t work all that well when the wind changes direction and the anchor has 
> to reset itself.  A CQR, Bruce, Manta, or Rocna will do much better in these 
> conditoins!
> 
> Bob
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 11:01 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Just remember a Fortress sets best at 2.5 or less scope.  Once set, you can 
>> let out more rode to achieve proper scope. 
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> Touché 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 9:50 AM, John Pennie via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Rick pretty much nailed it.  Also the reason so many folks carry both 
>>> fortress and cqr variety.   It really is amazing how well even a smaller 
>>> anchor holds once properly set.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On Aug 27, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 
 The primary anchor on the 25 that I had was a 25lb CQR with 23ft of chain
 and 150ft of rode and I never dragged when I had proper scope out.
 My lunch hook was a 5kg Bruce that I hauled up from the bottom one day and
 it held almost as well as the CQR.
 Danforth/Fortress anchors work well in sand and mud but are useless in rock
 and weeds.
 
 
 Rick Taillieu
 Shearwater Yacht Club
 Halifax, NS.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
 Syerdave--- via CnC-List
 Sent: August-27-16 21:08
 To: C Stus List
 Cc: syerd...@gmail.com
 Subject: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?
 
 Interesting few hours today doing an anchor test.   A young guy at  port
 Whitby marina was looking for an anchor for his tanzer 26, to replace the
 really tiny and cheap ski-boat danforth type that came with his boat (and
 had proved impossible to set).  We had discussed over beverages a few 
 times.
 
 I thought to try my (never tried) fortress fx-7 lunch hook - 120' rode, 10'
 chain.   We dragged it all over the bay at 8:1 or better scope.  Could feel
 it bumping along a hard bottom.It finally hooked up and was kinda
 sideways.   Now the bottom is, I think, a rock shelf under silt and clay,
 but I don't really know.  
 We parked his boat and returned with Windstar (my 33 mkii) and her 10kg
 Bruce with 50' heavy chain.  (Plus 150' rode) Let out the chain only,
 dragged 20' and set hard.  You could feel and hear it bumping over a very
 hard bottom before it did so.   Should have tried in 2 or 3 locations to
 prove it was not a fluke.   (So to speak) 
 He now wants a load of chain and a 10kg anchor for his 4000lb boat!
 Lol
 Anyway, the fortress isn't going to work for me.  What do folks use and
 trust as a lunch hook/kedge?  As always, thanks.   
 Dave.
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Re: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

From my past experience, a danforth (or a similar design like a Fortress) 
doesn’t work all that well when the wind changes direction and the anchor has 
to reset itself.  A CQR, Bruce, Manta, or Rocna will do much better in these 
conditoins!

Bob
 
> On Aug 28, 2016, at 11:01 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Just remember a Fortress sets best at 2.5 or less scope.  Once set, you can 
> let out more rode to achieve proper scope. 
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touché 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 9:50 AM, John Pennie via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Rick pretty much nailed it.  Also the reason so many folks carry both 
>> fortress and cqr variety.   It really is amazing how well even a smaller 
>> anchor holds once properly set.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The primary anchor on the 25 that I had was a 25lb CQR with 23ft of chain
>>> and 150ft of rode and I never dragged when I had proper scope out.
>>> My lunch hook was a 5kg Bruce that I hauled up from the bottom one day and
>>> it held almost as well as the CQR.
>>> Danforth/Fortress anchors work well in sand and mud but are useless in rock
>>> and weeds.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick Taillieu
>>> Shearwater Yacht Club
>>> Halifax, NS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Syerdave--- via CnC-List
>>> Sent: August-27-16 21:08
>>> To: C Stus List
>>> Cc: syerd...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?
>>> 
>>> Interesting few hours today doing an anchor test.   A young guy at  port
>>> Whitby marina was looking for an anchor for his tanzer 26, to replace the
>>> really tiny and cheap ski-boat danforth type that came with his boat (and
>>> had proved impossible to set).  We had discussed over beverages a few times.
>>> 
>>> I thought to try my (never tried) fortress fx-7 lunch hook - 120' rode, 10'
>>> chain.   We dragged it all over the bay at 8:1 or better scope.  Could feel
>>> it bumping along a hard bottom.It finally hooked up and was kinda
>>> sideways.   Now the bottom is, I think, a rock shelf under silt and clay,
>>> but I don't really know.  
>>> We parked his boat and returned with Windstar (my 33 mkii) and her 10kg
>>> Bruce with 50' heavy chain.  (Plus 150' rode) Let out the chain only,
>>> dragged 20' and set hard.  You could feel and hear it bumping over a very
>>> hard bottom before it did so.   Should have tried in 2 or 3 locations to
>>> prove it was not a fluke.   (So to speak) 
>>> He now wants a load of chain and a 10kg anchor for his 4000lb boat!
>>> Lol
>>> Anyway, the fortress isn't going to work for me.  What do folks use and
>>> trust as a lunch hook/kedge?  As always, thanks.   
>>> Dave.
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Stus-List Keel Centerboard Damage Liability

[Bernard Bauman via CnC-List]

I am looking at some C with keel centerboards. I have concerns about 
potential keel damage in event of grounding with the centerboard up.  Not 
knowing exact construction, I wonder if bottom portion of keel is lead or 
fiberglass. Owners experience appreciated. Also what has been K/CB owners 
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Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C 36.

[Graham Young via CnC-List]

Hi Rob,
The deep fin version of the C 32 is 5'8".  A smaller number of them came with 
a KCB that with a draw of 4'-6'11"

Graham Young1981 C 32 #107SpellboundCleveland, Ohio 

On Sunday, August 28, 2016 10:44 AM, robert via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

  I have sailed on, and helmed, both the C 30 MKI and a C 36...in my 
opinion, the C 30 MKI is by far the stiffer boat.
 
 Looking at the Dellenbaugh chart, can anyone tell me what the difference is 
between a 'C 32 deep' and a 'C 32'..I think I have the '32 deep'.to 
the best of my knowledge, it is the full deep keel..draft approx. 5' 8".
 
 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 C 32 - 84
 Halifax, N.S. 
 
 On 2016-08-27 3:21 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List wrote:
  
 
 I'm not familiar with a rock dike.. did she get an operation?
 
 Anyhow, a little qualification is in order, the 30-1 is the stiff boat of the 
little fleet.
  http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/technical/stability.htm
 
 the 36 doesn't look particular stiff according to the chart.
 
  Cheers, Russ
 Sweet 35 mk-1
 
 At 07:55 PM 26/08/2016, you wrote:
 
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  boundary="=_Part_507825_1933415483.1472266525610"
 Content-Length: 3550
 
 Only thing stiffer than a 30-1 is a rock dike.
 Ron
 Wild Cheri
 C 30-1
 STL
 
 
 
 
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 Cc: RANDY ; Mitchell's 
 Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:09 AM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C 36.
 
 A lot stiffer than the 30?  The 36KCB must be one helluva stiff boat then!
 
 Cheers,
 Randy Stafford
 S/V Grenadine
 C 30-1 #7
 Ken Caryl, CO
 
 
  
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Re: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Just remember a Fortress sets best at 2.5 or less scope.  Once set, you can let 
out more rode to achieve proper scope. 

Dennis C.
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 28, 2016, at 9:50 AM, John Pennie via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Rick pretty much nailed it.  Also the reason so many folks carry both 
> fortress and cqr variety.   It really is amazing how well even a smaller 
> anchor holds once properly set.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The primary anchor on the 25 that I had was a 25lb CQR with 23ft of chain
>> and 150ft of rode and I never dragged when I had proper scope out.
>> My lunch hook was a 5kg Bruce that I hauled up from the bottom one day and
>> it held almost as well as the CQR.
>> Danforth/Fortress anchors work well in sand and mud but are useless in rock
>> and weeds.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick Taillieu
>> Shearwater Yacht Club
>> Halifax, NS.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
>> Syerdave--- via CnC-List
>> Sent: August-27-16 21:08
>> To: C Stus List
>> Cc: syerd...@gmail.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?
>> 
>> Interesting few hours today doing an anchor test.   A young guy at  port
>> Whitby marina was looking for an anchor for his tanzer 26, to replace the
>> really tiny and cheap ski-boat danforth type that came with his boat (and
>> had proved impossible to set).  We had discussed over beverages a few times.
>> 
>> I thought to try my (never tried) fortress fx-7 lunch hook - 120' rode, 10'
>> chain.   We dragged it all over the bay at 8:1 or better scope.  Could feel
>> it bumping along a hard bottom.It finally hooked up and was kinda
>> sideways.   Now the bottom is, I think, a rock shelf under silt and clay,
>> but I don't really know.  
>> We parked his boat and returned with Windstar (my 33 mkii) and her 10kg
>> Bruce with 50' heavy chain.  (Plus 150' rode) Let out the chain only,
>> dragged 20' and set hard.  You could feel and hear it bumping over a very
>> hard bottom before it did so.   Should have tried in 2 or 3 locations to
>> prove it was not a fluke.   (So to speak) 
>> He now wants a load of chain and a 10kg anchor for his 4000lb boat!
>> Lol
>> Anyway, the fortress isn't going to work for me.  What do folks use and
>> trust as a lunch hook/kedge?  As always, thanks.   
>> Dave.
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Re: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?

[John Pennie via CnC-List]

Rick pretty much nailed it.  Also the reason so many folks carry both fortress 
and cqr variety.   It really is amazing how well even a smaller anchor holds 
once properly set.

John


Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> The primary anchor on the 25 that I had was a 25lb CQR with 23ft of chain
> and 150ft of rode and I never dragged when I had proper scope out.
> My lunch hook was a 5kg Bruce that I hauled up from the bottom one day and
> it held almost as well as the CQR.
> Danforth/Fortress anchors work well in sand and mud but are useless in rock
> and weeds.
> 
> 
> Rick Taillieu
> Shearwater Yacht Club
> Halifax, NS.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
> Syerdave--- via CnC-List
> Sent: August-27-16 21:08
> To: C Stus List
> Cc: syerd...@gmail.com
> Subject: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?
> 
> Interesting few hours today doing an anchor test.   A young guy at  port
> Whitby marina was looking for an anchor for his tanzer 26, to replace the
> really tiny and cheap ski-boat danforth type that came with his boat (and
> had proved impossible to set).  We had discussed over beverages a few times.
> 
> I thought to try my (never tried) fortress fx-7 lunch hook - 120' rode, 10'
> chain.   We dragged it all over the bay at 8:1 or better scope.  Could feel
> it bumping along a hard bottom.It finally hooked up and was kinda
> sideways.   Now the bottom is, I think, a rock shelf under silt and clay,
> but I don't really know.  
> We parked his boat and returned with Windstar (my 33 mkii) and her 10kg
> Bruce with 50' heavy chain.  (Plus 150' rode) Let out the chain only,
> dragged 20' and set hard.  You could feel and hear it bumping over a very
> hard bottom before it did so.   Should have tried in 2 or 3 locations to
> prove it was not a fluke.   (So to speak) 
> He now wants a load of chain and a 10kg anchor for his 4000lb boat!
> Lol
> Anyway, the fortress isn't going to work for me.  What do folks use and
> trust as a lunch hook/kedge?  As always, thanks.   
> Dave.
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Re: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

When I bought Weatherly there was a Fortress, I think FX11, with it.  
Most of the time it held, but once in a grassy bottom it just not set at 
all in 18 kts breeze.  After that, thanks to recommendations on this 
list, I bought at 33 lb Rocna.  The Fortress is my lunch hook only now.


Few weeks ago I anchored for the night in Point Judith Port of Refuge, 
locals know it's only a V-shaped breakwater a half-mile offshore.  The 
predicted 10 kt wind became a sustained 35+ by 2:00 am.  I had the Rocna 
out on 150' of 5/8" 3-strand with about 6' chain at the bottom in 30' 
depth, barely 5:1.  It held like a rock, but being only 200 yds upwind 
of rocks I didn't sleep at all.  About 2:30 am the one other boat out 
there that night was on the rocks right near me, saw the CG take the 
crew off and by morning only the mast was above water.


So to those on this list who recommended the Rocna , many thanks.

Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


On 8/27/2016 8:07 PM, Syerdave--- via CnC-List wrote:

Interesting few hours today doing an anchor test.   A young guy at  port Whitby 
marina was looking for an anchor for his tanzer 26, to replace the really tiny 
and cheap ski-boat danforth type that came with his boat (and had proved 
impossible to set).  We had discussed over beverages a few times.
I thought to try my (never tried) fortress fx-7 lunch hook - 120' rode, 10' 
chain.   We dragged it all over the bay at 8:1 or better scope.  Could feel it 
bumping along a hard bottom.It finally hooked up and was kinda sideways.   
Now the bottom is, I think, a rock shelf under silt and clay, but I don't 
really know.
We parked his boat and returned with Windstar (my 33 mkii) and her 10kg Bruce 
with 50' heavy chain.  (Plus 150' rode) Let out the chain only, dragged 20' and 
set hard.  You could feel and hear it bumping over a very hard bottom before it 
did so.   Should have tried in 2 or 3 locations to prove it was not a fluke.   
(So to speak)
  He now wants a load of chain and a 10kg anchor for his 4000lb boat!  Lol
Anyway, the fortress isn't going to work for me.  What do folks use and trust 
as a lunch hook/kedge?  As always, thanks.
Dave.
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Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C 36.

[robert via CnC-List]

I have sailed on, and helmed, both the C 30 MKI and a C 36...in 
my opinion, the C 30 MKI is by far the stiffer boat.


Looking at the Dellenbaugh chart, can anyone tell me what the difference 
is between a 'C 32 deep' and a 'C 32'..I think I have the '32 
deep'.to the best of my knowledge, it is the full deep 
keel..draft approx. 5' 8".


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2016-08-27 3:21 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List wrote:


I'm not familiar with a rock dike.. did she get an operation?

Anyhow, a little qualification is in order, the 30-1 is the stiff boat 
of the little fleet.
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/technical/stability.htm 



the 36 doesn't look particular stiff according to the chart.

Cheers, Russ
/Sweet /35 mk-1

At 07:55 PM 26/08/2016, you wrote:

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Only thing stiffer than a 30-1 is a rock dike.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C 30-1
STL




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*Cc:* RANDY ; Mitchell's 


*Sent:* Friday, August 26, 2016 10:09 AM
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C 36.

A lot stiffer than the 30?  The 36KCB must be one helluva stiff boat 
then!


Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO



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Re: Stus-List Anchor test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?

[svpegasus38]

I am using a 45lb CQR with 125 ft of chain and 200 ft rode. Mever have drug 
even with 3-4 boats rafted. I know over kill, but I like to sleep at night. It 
sets in any type bottom I have encountered. Did I mention I also have a 
windlass for the heavy work. For a lunch hook I let out less scope. 
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 #4just west of Ballard, WA.




-- Original message--From: Syerdave--- via CnC-List Date: Sat, Aug 27, 
2016 17:08To: C Stus List;Cc: syerd...@gmail.com;Subject:Stus-List Anchor 
test - recommended lunch hook/kedge?
Interesting few hours today doing an anchor test.   A young guy at  port Whitby 
marina was looking for an anchor for his tanzer 26, to replace the really tiny 
and cheap ski-boat danforth type that came with his boat (and had proved 
impossible to set).  We had discussed over beverages a few times.   I thought 
to try my (never tried) fortress fx-7 lunch hook - 120' rode, 10' chain.   We 
dragged it all over the bay at 8:1 or better scope.  Could feel it bumping 
along a hard bottom.It finally hooked up and was kinda sideways.   Now the 
bottom is, I think, a rock shelf under silt and clay, but I don't really know.  
We parked his boat and returned with Windstar (my 33 mkii) and her 10kg Bruce 
with 50' heavy chain.  (Plus 150' rode) Let out the chain only, dragged 20' and 
set hard.  You could feel and hear it bumping over a very hard bottom before it 
did so.   Should have tried in 2 or 3 locations to prove it was not a fluke.   
(So to speak)  He now wants a load of chain and a 10kg anchor for his 4000lb 
boat!  LolAnyway, the fortress isn't going to work for me.  What do folks 
use and trust as a lunch hook/kedge?  As always, thanks.   
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