Stus-List Survey - C 30MKII - additional thoughts to share

[kelly petew via CnC-List]

Lisle, Hi,

Recently, as current owner of a 30 mkII, I sent you a list of things to 
consider.
In response to your latest email below, I can share the following:

My boat's rudder is 'wet' also, based on moisture meter readings.
As others on this list have recommended, I will drill a hole in the rudder's 
bottom so any water can drain [plug it in the spring].
In nearly 14 years of owning my 30MKII [1991 vintage], this is the only action 
I've taken on this issue.
That said, I would recommend you check the rudderpost for a zerc fitting [a bit 
challenging to access from starboard cockpit locker].  Apply grease here 
annually.  This might help keep out the moisture.
Also, check the muffler.  Mine was metal, and it eventually corroded badly at 
the drain plug and leaked.  I replaced it with a fiberglass muffler [email me 
for details, if you like].
Also, if the surveyor didn't do this, remove the aft cabin flooring [behind the 
batteries], and check the strut bolts.  Mine are showing some rust stains, but 
I'm not seeing elevated moisture readings in that area of the hull.
I have always had some water in the bilge, from the mast.  Not a lot, but some 
[however, in a tropical storm, I would get a nearly FULL bilge].

Periodically, I get water intrusion [not a lot], below the hatches, both at the 
mast and in v-berth.  I think it's from the crazing of the lenses.  I am 
replacing them.
Last year, I had to replace the original water heater.
Currently, I'm dealing with a leak in the starboard water tank.  I think the 
leak is along a crack that started at the exit hole [aft end of tank].  This 
tank is easily removed, but it is proving challenging to repair.  I don't know 
about extracting the v-berth tank.

Good Luck!

Pete W.

Siren Song
1991 C
Deltaville, Va.










 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 06:40:20 -0400
From: "Lisle Kingery, PhD" 
To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List survey says...
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Hi all,

I've gotten the survey back on the 1987 30MKii I'm considering.

Above average condition overall, the surveyor was impressed by the
condition overall.

The rudder has significant water intrusion despite previous repairs, there
are slight depressions in the hull on the aft supports due to boat being on
the hard for over a year (surveyor thinks these will come out when launched
but need to address it now by putting wider pads), and there appear to be
two leaks - one at the forward hatch and one possibly around the mast
(there was a bit of water on the cushion just forward of the galley). Boat
has recent (2015) new sails, 2 new ST winches, and a new mast track.

FMV estimate is ~18% below asking price.

Given this, any final words of wisdom for me as try to negotiate a final
deal?

Thanks in advance.




Lisle

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Re: Stus-List C 37+ xl for sale

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

It’s the GREEN. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Scary how inexpensive. Maybe there’s something very wrong with her. 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone seen this?
>> 
>> http://marinesource.com/boats-for-sale/listing_details.cfm?Yacht=1990-37-C-C-37-XL-Plus-Berkeley-CA=100784958
>> 
>> Seems really inexpensive!
>> 
>> Danny
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Aluminum Cleats on doghouse of 35 Mk I

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Merriman?

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone.
>
>
>
> Does anyone know who manufactured the cleats on the C Mk I.  I have
> just finished rebedding all the hardware save for the cleats on the
> doghouse and cannot find the original cleats (long story and yes probably
> with the chain plate that was, and remains, lost).  I would prefer to buy
> the same cleats to avoid a different hole pattern for a new cleat within 30
> days of finishing and repainting the deck.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> *Glen Eddie*
>
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Re: Stus-List C 37+ xl for sale

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

"Pac Cup Veteran" does suggest good gear and an owner that knows what they
are doing and has the funds to invest in the ~$100k to pull off a Pac Cup.
(vetted number from the boat I crewed on for Pac Cup and from another
entrant I know). I doubt the sails (sales) are nearly as tired as the
dacron bed sheets sold with most older C's. She's been raced obviously.
That said, every owner, I've ever raced with has taken better care of their
boat than the average cruisers I know and they don't often flog their sails
and rigging like many cruisers do. Nobody could say if there was
significant water in the boat as with any boat on the market.

Fact is, though we love our C's the larger and older boats are the least
attractive on the used boat market and are going for peanuts because of
this. People who have the skills and funds to own a 40' boat (not as a
liveaboard) are generally older and likely more comfortable financially.
These buyers are less likely to want an older boat that takes 'work' to
maintain or 'work' to sail, hence furling mains and jibs, and powered
halyard winches at least.

My 2 cents too.

Kevin

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:54 AM Lee Youngblood via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Does “Pacific Cup Veteran” suggest good gear, tired sales, and raced hard
> and put to bed wet?  You’d have to see it to know how much water has been
> inside the boat.
> 2 cents, Lee
>
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2017, at 10:20 05AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Scary how inexpensive. Maybe there’s something very wrong with her.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone seen this?
>
>
> http://marinesource.com/boats-for-sale/listing_details.cfm?Yacht=1990-37-C-C-37-XL-Plus-Berkeley-CA=100784958
>
> Seems really inexpensive!
>
> Danny
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Anchor links.

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Soft shackle?

Joel


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On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Brian Fry via CnC-List <
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> Splicing the chain to the rode only fixes half the problem. What about the
> other end that attaches to the stainless fitting at the anchor?
>
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Stus-List Aluminum Cleats on doghouse of 35 Mk I

[Glen Eddie via CnC-List]

Hello everyone.

Does anyone know who manufactured the cleats on the C Mk I.  I have just 
finished rebedding all the hardware save for the cleats on the doghouse and 
cannot find the original cleats (long story and yes probably with the chain 
plate that was, and remains, lost).  I would prefer to buy the same cleats to 
avoid a different hole pattern for a new cleat within 30 days of finishing and 
repainting the deck.

Thanks in advance.

Glen Eddie

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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 141, Issue 88

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

Way too cheap!

Somebody please buy this ASAP to get it off the 
market.  It is damaging the FMV of all 37+'s


At 10:34 AM 10/19/2017, you wrote:


Message: 2
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 13:03:09 -0400
From: Danny Haughey 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List C 37+ xl for sale
Message-ID: <493c4d2c-a15d-890c-60ff-f02eb7a76...@juno.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Has anyone seen this?

http://marinesource.com/boats-for-sale/listing_details.cfm?Yacht=1990-37-C-C-37-XL-Plus-Berkeley-CA=100784958

Seems really inexpensive!

Danny





.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com


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Re: Stus-List C 37+ xl for sale

[Lee Youngblood via CnC-List]

Does “Pacific Cup Veteran” suggest good gear, tired sales, and raced hard and 
put to bed wet?  You’d have to see it to know how much water has been inside 
the boat.
2 cents, Lee
 

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 10:20 05AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Scary how inexpensive. Maybe there’s something very wrong with her. 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone seen this?
>> 
>> http://marinesource.com/boats-for-sale/listing_details.cfm?Yacht=1990-37-C-C-37-XL-Plus-Berkeley-CA=100784958
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Seems really inexpensive!
>> 
>> Danny
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List C 37+ xl for sale

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

"Maggie" has been on the market for over a year at least. I've been keeping
an eye on the listing. I doubt there is anything wrong with her. In fact,
her keel has been dropped and rebed and the rudder dropped and serviced for
their Pac Cup run in 2012.

If the Bridge Deck on the 37+ was not absurdly high (my opinion) I would
really like this boat. The tradeoff of the very high bridge deck and ~3
extra companionway stairs for the walk around aft berth doesn't seem worth
it in IMO. Contorting underneath a high dodger every time you need to go
below for a beer seems inconvenient ;)

Otherwise, the 37+ is one of my very favorite boats and I still covet one.

Kevin 30-2


On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:28 AM David via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Maybe...but there is something defiantly wrong with the market
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
> Date: 10/19/17 13:20 (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Edd Schillay 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C 37+ xl for sale
>
> Scary how inexpensive. Maybe there’s something very wrong with her.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone seen this?
>
>
> http://marinesource.com/boats-for-sale/listing_details.cfm?Yacht=1990-37-C-C-37-XL-Plus-Berkeley-CA=100784958
> 
>
> Seems really inexpensive!
>
> Danny
>
>
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Re: Stus-List C 37+ xl for sale

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

the ad says the owner got relocated...  I know a guy that sold his 
beautiful 37+ last year for $50k after it was on the market for 2 
years.  That boat was amazingly clean too.


Danny


On 10/19/2017 1:27 PM, David via CnC-List wrote:

Maybe...but there is something defiantly wrong with the market



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Date: 10/19/17 13:20 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 37+ xl for sale

Scary how inexpensive. Maybe there’s something very wrong with her.

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 







On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
> wrote:


Has anyone seen this?

http://marinesource.com/boats-for-sale/listing_details.cfm?Yacht=1990-37-C-C-37-XL-Plus-Berkeley-CA=100784958 



Seems really inexpensive!

Danny


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Re: Stus-List C 37+ xl for sale

[David via CnC-List]

Maybe...but there is something defiantly wrong with the market



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Date: 10/19/17 13:20 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 37+ xl for sale

Scary how inexpensive. Maybe there’s something very wrong with her.

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's 
Log





On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
> wrote:

Has anyone seen this?

http://marinesource.com/boats-for-sale/listing_details.cfm?Yacht=1990-37-C-C-37-XL-Plus-Berkeley-CA=100784958

Seems really inexpensive!

Danny


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Re: Stus-List C 37+ xl for sale

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Scary how inexpensive. Maybe there’s something very wrong with her. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 





> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone seen this?
> 
> http://marinesource.com/boats-for-sale/listing_details.cfm?Yacht=1990-37-C-C-37-XL-Plus-Berkeley-CA=100784958
> 
> Seems really inexpensive!
> 
> Danny
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Anchor links.

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

My chain is galvanized and so is the shackle and so is the anchor.

If the shackle rubs the zinc off the end link, I would just cut it off 
and use the next one.



Joe

Coquina


On 10/19/2017 12:28 PM, Brian Fry via CnC-List wrote:
Splicing the chain to the rode only fixes half the problem. What about 
the other end that attaches to the stainless fitting at the anchor?



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Re: Stus-List Anchor links.

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

For some reason, the first link connecting to the rope seems to get way
more corroded than any other part of the chain/rode assembly, possibly
because it is buried in the chain locker with a bunch of salty wet rope.
The swivel end was never a problem on my setup. Until the swivel itself
broke and dropped a nice 35-lb Delta to the bottom in 40 feet of water...
The best thing would be to see if there is an issue after a few months with
a galvanized shackle. At least that end is usually easy to keep track of,
especially if the anchor lives on a roller. Having that shackle on deck
also allows it to be rinsed with fresh water regularly.


Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 19 October 2017 at 09:28, Brian Fry via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Splicing the chain to the rode only fixes half the problem. What about the
> other end that attaches to the stainless fitting at the anchor?
>
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Stus-List C 37+ xl for sale

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Has anyone seen this?

http://marinesource.com/boats-for-sale/listing_details.cfm?Yacht=1990-37-C-C-37-XL-Plus-Berkeley-CA=100784958

Seems really inexpensive!

Danny


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Re: Stus-List Anchor links.

[Brian Fry via CnC-List]

Splicing the chain to the rode only fixes half the problem. What about the
other end that attaches to the stainless fitting at the anchor?
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Re: Stus-List survey says...

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Lisle,

I’d get a quote from Foss Foam http://www.boatrudder.com/ if the previous owner 
has been unable to fix the problem of water intrusion and take that cost off 
the price of the purchase, and be sure to include the labor cost of removing 
and refitting the rudder and steering gear (Edson radial drive wheels are made 
to a precise fit to the closest .002” so that may need to be replaced as well 
to fit the new rudder).  Make sure to specify if the boat is full keel or wing 
keel as the rudder size will be different for each model.

If the hull is intact (no cracks or delamination) due to the stand placement, 
it will likely rebound once the weight is off the stands.   I would also make 
the sale contingent on a sea trial, because if the boat has been sitting on the 
hard for several years, things such as stuffing boxes, through hulls, various 
electronics, and running gear won’t be able to be fully vetted without putting 
them in the water and giving the boat a whirl.  Ask me why I suggest this…

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 35 Landfall

Padanaram, MA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Lisle 
Kingery, PhD via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 6:40 AM
To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Cc: Lisle Kingery, PhD 
Subject: Stus-List survey says...

 

Hi all,

 

I've gotten the survey back on the 1987 30MKii I'm considering. 

 

Above average condition overall, the surveyor was impressed by the condition 
overall.

 

The rudder has significant water intrusion despite previous repairs, there are 
slight depressions in the hull on the aft supports due to boat being on the 
hard for over a year (surveyor thinks these will come out when launched but 
need to address it now by putting wider pads), and there appear to be two leaks 
- one at the forward hatch and one possibly around the mast (there was a bit of 
water on the cushion just forward of the galley). Boat has recent (2015) new 
sails, 2 new ST winches, and a new mast track.

 

FMV estimate is ~18% below asking price.

 

Given this, any final words of wisdom for me as try to negotiate a final deal?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

Lisle

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Re: Stus-List survey says...

[jhnelson via CnC-List]

Seems reasonable. The hull will spring back into place. Mine has done so a 
number of years if I don't get to adjusting the pads just right after it gets 
moves in the yard. Shouldn't be much pressure there anyways. The pads are only 
to keep the boat from falling over. The two leaks are common areas. Mast boot 
around keel stepped mast and new bedding of either the hatch or the glazing in 
the hatch is likely all that is needed. 
Enjoy.


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 Original message 
From: "Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List"  
Date: 2017-10-19  07:40  (GMT-04:00) 
To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com 
Cc: "Lisle Kingery, PhD"  
Subject: Stus-List survey says... 

Hi all,
I've gotten the survey back on the 1987 30MKii I'm considering. 
Above average condition overall, the surveyor was impressed by the condition 
overall.

The rudder has significant water intrusion despite previous repairs, there are 
slight depressions in the hull on the aft supports due to boat being on the 
hard for over a year (surveyor thinks these will come out when launched but 
need to address it now by putting wider pads), and there appear to be two leaks 
- one at the forward hatch and one possibly around the mast (there was a bit of 
water on the cushion just forward of the galley). Boat has recent (2015) new 
sails, 2 new ST winches, and a new mast track.
FMV estimate is ~18% below asking price.
Given this, any final words of wisdom for me as try to negotiate a final deal?
Thanks in advance.



Lisle
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Re: Stus-List Anchor links

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

http://www.animatedknots.com/chainsplice/index.php

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Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 6:52 AM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'
Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor links

I have been doing that for years. I found the back splice easier to do than the 
splice where the anchor line continues along the chain weaving in and out, that 
one is a bit more effort.

Joe
Coquina

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via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 9:07 PM
To: 1 CnC List
Cc: Jim Watts
Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor links

Splice the rode to the chain. Easy.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 18 October 2017 at 15:34, Brian Fry via CnC-List 
> wrote:
During a change of the anchor I found a well corroded link. It is the first 
link connecting the rode shackle to the line. The shackle is stainless. The 
chain is galvanized. Is this a case of dissimilar metals?
If it is I can put a galvanized shackle, but where the chain attached too the 
anchor is a stainless mantus swivel, so the issue would be the same.
What do I do besides all stainless chain? If that is possible.

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Re: Stus-List Anchor links

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I have been doing that for years. I found the back splice easier to do than the 
splice where the anchor line continues along the chain weaving in and out, that 
one is a bit more effort.

Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 9:07 PM
To: 1 CnC List
Cc: Jim Watts
Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor links

Splice the rode to the chain. Easy.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 18 October 2017 at 15:34, Brian Fry via CnC-List 
> wrote:
During a change of the anchor I found a well corroded link. It is the first 
link connecting the rode shackle to the line. The shackle is stainless. The 
chain is galvanized. Is this a case of dissimilar metals?
If it is I can put a galvanized shackle, but where the chain attached too the 
anchor is a stainless mantus swivel, so the issue would be the same.
What do I do besides all stainless chain? If that is possible.

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Stus-List survey says...

[Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List]

Hi all,

I've gotten the survey back on the 1987 30MKii I'm considering.

Above average condition overall, the surveyor was impressed by the
condition overall.

The rudder has significant water intrusion despite previous repairs, there
are slight depressions in the hull on the aft supports due to boat being on
the hard for over a year (surveyor thinks these will come out when launched
but need to address it now by putting wider pads), and there appear to be
two leaks - one at the forward hatch and one possibly around the mast
(there was a bit of water on the cushion just forward of the galley). Boat
has recent (2015) new sails, 2 new ST winches, and a new mast track.

FMV estimate is ~18% below asking price.

Given this, any final words of wisdom for me as try to negotiate a final
deal?

Thanks in advance.




Lisle
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