Stus-List webasto heater exhaust fitting
After freezing my tail off last season on some overnight races, I finally broke down and am in the process of installing a heater on the boat. With the reverse angle on the transom, I understand there can be issues installing the straight through transom fitting that came with the kit. I found the following angled fitting available in the UK. Anyone know of a dealer/mnfctr in the US? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/24MM-S-S-EXHAUST-SKIN-FITTING-FOR-EBERSPACHER-WEBA STO-DIESEL-HEATER-/111490826093 Pete ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album. Please donate to the CC Photo Album to keep this list free for all subscribers. Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List New CnC Owner Introduction...
David - I also have a 37 and happy to help out if you have any questions. Pete From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via CnC-List Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 1:38 PM To: David McDonough; CNC CNC Subject: Stus-List New CnC Owner Introduction... CnC Group meet David McDonough...David meet the best damned owners group out there... David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) _ From: dmcdono...@jhu.edu To: davidrisc...@msn.com Subject: RE: CnC Rendezvous Site Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:10:03 + David, Thank you. I look forward to the info for next year's summer rendezvous. David David McDonough Cell (410) 491-3746 dmcdono...@jhu.edu Trinity 1984 CC 37 From: David [mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 11:50 AM To: David McDonough Subject: CnC Rendezvous Site David, That site is being replaced. We have a great e-mail group of which I can send you the e-mail link. You can then introduce yourself and ask any type of questions or help others. Welcome!! David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Custom CC Race boats (was - boat terms)
Ed - True North is in Thunder Bay, Ont. I saw her in August when in the area for a race. There’s also another custom 37 there called Pennycress.Pennycress annually comes down to Bayfield Race Week, but I haven’t seen either in the Trans for a while. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edward Levert via CnC-List Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 7:24 PM To: Rick Taillieu; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Custom CC Race boats (was - boat terms) In the mid 1970's TRUE NORTH came south to Lake Pontchartrain. She was a custom CC 37 designed and built to defend the Canada's Cup. Flush deck with ant hills, sockets moulded into the deck to accept winch handles. The ant hills were cross linked so that the leeward winch could be ground from the windward side. She was brought to the lake by Gene Walet, a former Olympic sailor and then the local CC dealer to provide competition to Corrie, CC 39 hull # 2 or 3 and Touché. Gene added rather crude extensions to the aft curvature of the hull extending past the reverse transom for some undiscernabe rating or performance benefit. A recent Google search pulled up a report of TN having done well in the Trans Superior race a few years ago. It would be nice to hear about her current status. Gene replaced TN with White Pony, one of the early CC 38's, which was never competitive with the CC 39. Ed CC 34 Briar Patch New Orleans On Monday, November 10, 2014, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: While we’re on the subject of custom CC race boats does anyone know anything about this one? It looks like a 38 MK I or II hull with a mostly flush deck and racing cabin layout. At first I thought it might be the One Tonner but the deck layout in the pictures is quite different than in the magazine ad that I have a scan of. http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1975/C%26C-38-2744779/Canada#.VGEhiclMpD4 Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com'); ] On Behalf Of Burt Stratton via CnC-List Sent: November-10-14 15:12 To: 'Martin DeYoung'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); ; 'jtsails' Subject: Re: Stus-List boat terms Somehow I knew this was an easy one for all you listers. Thanks so much. My next stop is IOR ton rating. Had no clue… I wonder now how many and for how long CC made these custom class-racers. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com'); ] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung via CnC-List Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:55 PM To: jtsails; cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); Subject: Re: Stus-List boat terms Burt, James’ answer leading you to search using “IOR ton rating is good advice. In short, the term “ton” was based on an IOR rating band that allowed IOR boats to race “one design”. IIRC the popular “ton” classes were: ¼. ½, ¾, 1, and 2. Sailing Anarchy has had several recent topics that cover IOR and “Ton” racing well. Calypso would have rated as a 2 tonner. A J-24 sized boat would be close to a ¼ tonner. Today there is a resurgence of ton class racing with ¼ and ½ ton regattas being well attended. Boats that had been neglected for years are being resurrected, modernized and raced hard. Back in the heyday of IOR racing I had the opportunities to race extensively on ¾, 1, and 2 ton class boats. The racing was tight and fun. We used bloopers. In the PNW town of Bellingham a regatta called PITCH (Pacific International Ton Championship) was started in the early 80’s. The racing was as intense as the partying. Protest meeting often went past dinner time. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List thread reply and rod rigging
Dave - In addition to the comments on rod rigging, and as a point of reference for you on costs, I had an old Stearns headstay/furler and replaced it this fall with a Harken. This required that I add a new forestay. For multiple reasons I went with rod vs wire. Total cost for just the forestay, which included toggles for new furler, was about $1300. If you make this purchase and are looking for budget numbers, re-heading everything for around $2k is good value with appropriate safety/reliability that others have mentioned. Hope that helps. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Dawes via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 7:20 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List thread reply and rod rigging Hi, can someone tell me how to reply to a thread? Sorry, I can't figure it out. So I started a new one. Next I looked at a 1984 CNC 35 M3 yesterday. Concerned about the rod rigging. This boat is run down so I don't expect a record of rigging inspection or service. A rigger friend recommended full replacement. Is this correct? And what are alternatives? What is a rod replacement cost approx? And is a wire replacement smart/ advisable/ cost effective or too heavy? Technology has moved ahead in 30 years. I love the boat layout etc. But suspect rigging will kill my offshore pleasure! Many thanks, David. David Dawes Captain Newport, RI, USA +1(401)5854942 dawes...@hotmail.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Volvo ocean race game?
Graham - Not this time, but I downloaded the race app on my Ipad (Volvo Ocean Race 2014). With the tracking and video footage, this is going to be crazy cool. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Graham Collins via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 8:34 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Volvo ocean race game? Anyone doing the volvo ocean race game? (Virtual regatta at http://www.virtualregatta.com/) -- Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster
Ditto on the sailtec. Good Wisconsin company. 7 yrs and no issues for me. Of course I take it off every fall and store inside for the winter. Good idea of Harken pumping both ways.if you're into that. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 4:28 PM To: 'Bruno Lachance'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster My 39 had a Sailtec installed by the PO. No problems from when he bought it in early 90's till now. I like it. http://www.sailtec.com/products/hydraulic-integral-adjusters.html I think the Harken is nice too, supposedly it pumps both ways. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Regards, Bill From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Lachance via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:15 PM To: Joel Aronson; Kevin Driscoll; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster The 33 is not split backstay, maybe some late models have them but not mine. I can not beleive there is not a better reliable system on the market. anybody with direct experience of the Wichard mechanical wiht ratchet ? i don't even know if the handle pumps up and down or rotates with some sort of relief system hence the ratchet ??? same question about power, but the numbers indicate it would be more than appropriate for my boat. I'm worried to dump more money into hydrolic and be a the same point in a year or two. Worse case scenario i lost the rig, i had to jury something this summer offshore in 25 knots plus when the thing blew on my transom. not fun at all. i bought a spare turnbucle after that one and went on with my vacations. thanks for inputs Bruno Lachance CC 33 mkII Becassine _ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:45:20 -0400 To: kevindrisc...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com My 2 cents: I don't think the 33 is a split backstay. The cost to split it and install new chain plates would probably exceed the cost of a hydraulic unit. With a masthead rig I would want more power than you can get with a manual adjuster. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I second the split back with tackle/cam cleat apparatus suggestion. I race a bit with it and Find it straight forward and quick adjusting. Pretty direct feedback on rig tension. KD On October 8, 2014, at 1:13PM, John Pennie via CnC-List wrote: For a 33 you may want to consider one of the fittings that ride on a split backstay from Johnson. Not nearly as eloquent but effective and probably the best value. John On Oct 8, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If you race your boat you will find the mechanical back stay adjuster to be a complete PITA. I have a stainless steel Barient back stay adjuster (5/8 pins and uses a winch handle to adjust) that came with my boat back in 1975 to be used in case the original Meriman hydraulic adjusters failed. It did indeed fail and we rigged the Barient and it took all that one could do to crank in enough tension just to straighten the mast Jack Fitzgerald HONEY CC 39 TM On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi all, I sent my navtec backstay for a rebuild at Southshore and it seems the over 25 years thing is dammaged (scratch on pump cylinder, not fixable, it still leaks). I'm looking at options and the two on the list are: replace it by the exact same thing (Navtec) or screw hydrolic and go with the mechanical option. Would be a Wichard product, the one with a ratchet or handle with no ratchet, not the wheel. any opinions on that decision would be appreciated regarding reliability and performance (i like to play with that toy!) would a mechanical be too slow to adjust? Thanks Bruno Lachance CC 33 mkII Becassine _ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is
Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room?
I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting restriction. Is that not in place anymore? I know a lot of licensed captains out there aren’t worth a damn. IE: It takes more than just passing a test. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Goodyear via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 11:48 AM To: Josh Muckley; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room? I second Josh's comments about Mariners Learning System - but I had the hard copy books (as well as online / DVD's) and found myself using them on long flights, making notes etc. I passed the test easily after taking the course - I added a couple of apps to my phone for light / signal flash cards that came in handy. I would recommend Mariners Learning System - if you are OK learning from materials / on your own. Just to note, this was not my first experience with certification, having done the RYA tests when I lived in England. Getting the correct medical and drug testing done is not as simple as it sounds. Tim On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Online at mariners learning system was fine for me and my wife. I didn't like the materials because it was a video that simply read through the course book. The tests were simple quizes and module tests were rote memorization of the written and video material. We made flash cards of all of the quiz and test questions and passed the final test pretty easily. Crammed the night before. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 3, 2014 10:59 AM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Need some advise I have always wanted to get my ticket. When i retire I want to be able to move some boats for a living maybe for a local marina and the like. I want to get the ball rolling. But I find that there are from around $500 bucks on line to as much as 1500 in class type schools. I was hoping for some incite on the better way to take and pass the test. I want to learn and I want to pass. I want to better hone my skill to become a better skipper. I have a 65 mile ride to Charleston or a 30 mile ride to Savannah to find a school. Are the On-Line courses sufficient enough to make the test passable? I would thing a instructor would be needed to prepare for a test like that? they claim a 98% pass rate. Lets here your 2 ¢ Best regards, Curtis McDaniel, CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain mailto:bobhick...@rogers.com cpt.b...@gmail.com __/) . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation
Dave - I'll chime in.I did that job about 3 years ago and am glad I did.Note that it's no silver bullet. Martin's comment that no one asks if the diesel is running is still accurate, but it's a lot better. As I get older the engine doesn't sound as bad as it used to, so I have that going for me J It's really not that hard of a project and there's a lot less dirt in the area in addition to the reduction in noise pollution. I figure it's like refrigeration. You can live without it, but it's nice to have. Hope that helps. Pete From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 4:22 PM To: CNC CNC Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation Well I heard from one about the not-so-great results from installing engine sound insulation...anybody else want to chime in with an opinion about whether it is worth it? David F. Risch 1981-402 (401) 419-4650 (cell) To: pauljba...@shaw.ca; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:03:44 -0300 Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine? Now docking From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com You got it...i know that one because I had a 27 MKIII in the same sort of dock arrangement Dwight Veinot CC 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul Baker via CnC-List Sent: August 28, 2014 3:34 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine? Now docking Which is all well and good if your dock has a piling or some other way of getting a midships springline onto it. My dock is a low, short finger, when the boat is in the slip the stern is just about to the end of the finger so no way to drop a springline over a dock cleat as I come in singlehanded. I just have to wing it, drive in with enough way on to allow steerage, quick blast of reverse to tuck the stern in and stop any forward motion(dock is to port with reverse giving me a port walk), step off and throw the docklines over my cleats like a hero. Usually. Gets more interesting with the current and/or wind blowing you away from the dock of course, haven't got that one nailed quite yet (first year with an inboard) but fortunately don't have a boat in the adjoining slip so there is always a plan B, however untidy it looks. Cheers, Paul Orange Crush CC27MkII Sidney, BC. - Original Message - From: Joe via CnC-List Della Barba cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:57:15 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine? Key to difficult docking situations is a midships spring line. If you drop a short spring on a piling you can run against it and snug up to the dock under power either way and under sail going downwind. Joe Della Barba Coquina ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4015/8115 - Release Date: 08/28/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List block lubricant
We just finished a week long distance race series and during the race I noticed that the blocks that we lube with T-9 become pretty gunked up. We cleaned with a solvent, rinsed with soapy water and fresh water, then re-applied. Same result after a day or two. Anyone have similar experience? Does anyone have another product suggestion? Anyone use Mclube One Drop? Thanks, Pete 37 Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List tight reaching
I recently had a mid-distance race in which a majority of the race was tight reaching in flat water, 10-15 breeze. We had our heavy #1 up. A number of boats (CC39, CC38, Sabre 36, Tarten Ten) worked up on us pretty well in those conditions. I obviously need to trim the sails differently and am looking for suggestions. We mostly eased the sheet and moved the car forward, but we did try barber hauling. We did not try bringing the clew right out to the toe rail. Any thoughts or suggestions is appreciated. Thanks, Pete 1984 CC 37 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CC 38mkIII
Hey Fred - glad you're getting in the water - Just in time of Race Week. FYI we have a new Jib and Main class this year with a great turn out already. You'd do really well. Sign up here: http://wyc.org/ais/RaceWeek.aspx From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 11:39 AM To: Jerome Tauber; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 38mkIII How about considering a Landfall 38? Pretty much the same hull, but only draws 4'-11 on a longer keel. Mine points like a witch, too. :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( FINALLY getting launched tomorrow. :^) On Jun 19, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I've owned a CC 24 and 29mkII and now own a 27mkV. A friend and I are considering partnering on a 38mkIII. The 7.5 foot draft may be good in the Mariana Trench but not in my harbor. (3 mile Harbor ). Has anyone had any experience with the shoal keel version which I think gives the boat a. 6'4 draft ( still problematic). How does it point. How many points does it gain in PHRF. Any other comments appreciated. Jerry ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Jib sheet bowlines hang up on baby stay
Pete - You haven't had issues with the lazy sheet coming loose? From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of kelly petew via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:46 AM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Jib sheet bowlines hang up on baby stay I've had the same problem. I started using a cow hitch vs. two bowlines and it's less likely to get jammed. My headsail is a 140. Hope this helps. Pete W. Siren Song '91 CC30-2 Deltaville, VA From: cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 101, Issue 46 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 20:49:53 -0400 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of CnC-List digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: CC 38 mk1 vs mk2 (Stevan Plavsa) 2. CC 32 Genoa sheets (John Russo) 3. Re: CC 32 Genoa sheets (Rick Taillieu) 4. Re: Boatyard repair issues (Chuck S) 5. Re: CC 32 Genoa sheets (Frank) 6. Re: CC 32 Genoa sheets (John Russo) 7. Re: CC 32 Genoa sheets (Dennis C.) 8. Re: What happened 15th 16th June (Chris Price) 9. Jib sheet bowlines hang up on baby stay (Kevin Driscoll) 10. Boat for sale. . (D Harben) 11. Re: Jib sheet bowlines hang up on baby stay (sam.c.sal...@gmail.com) 12. Re: What happened 15th 16th June (Chuck S) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:01:07 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 38 mk1 vs mk2 Message-ID: caddevn7vjfrtlxkfv3u4it9gzfh_1y2dkzixkgbxgs6zjbn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks for the replies guys. I guess I'm not crazy then! If the owners themselves don't know the difference I don't feel so bad. Also, it means the older boats are worth considering. I'm also reading mixed reports of cored vs non-cored hulls. Anyone care to comment on that one?? Mostly I read that they are cored all the way down. Thanks, Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto Message: 9 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:21:47 -0700 From: Kevin Driscoll kevindrisc...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Jib sheet bowlines hang up on baby stay Message-ID: CA+LFByotVKt9BKDYZ8k9RwRt9=5nftnco8bc7feho3q1rgd...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I find that my jib sheet bowlines get hung up on my stay quite a bit, especially with my 130 on. Any suggestions? Thanks, Kevin 30-2 Sent from a mobile device. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140618/fa 6501c6/attachment-0001.html -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List diesel fuel line with banjo fitting
Nate – check with the guys at Barker’s. They stock some stuff, or may have better connections on ordering. No guarantee on best pricing though. http://barkers-island-marina.com/ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Nate Flesness via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 12:12 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List diesel fuel line with banjo fitting I need a new short 2QM15 diesel fuel line (part 17 on their diagram attached) with a banjo fitting on one end (apparently ripped the hose while pulling the engine last year). These have a press-fit brass female connection. My regional Yanmar supplier (Toad, formerly Torresen) has these backordered... Anyone have ideas or experience? Thanks Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List babystay tie rods
On my 37, the babystay has two tie rods going from the deck to the hull. On this boat these run straight down on either side of the door to the head. There are turnbuckles at the base of the rod by the hull to adjust the tension. In my case, one is significantly looser than the other. Does anyone on the list have experience adjusting these? Or how to monitor if they are too tight or too loose? Thanks, ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Repositioning Mast
Steve - I haven’t done this on a boat as big as yours, but in the past we have taken a line from the butt of the mast forward to a snatch block and then back to a winch and grind it forward. Not really as hard as it sounds. Obviously get the rig loose first, etc.Hope that helps. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 2:18 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Repositioning Mast Hi All, I made a stupid newbie mistake when we stepped the mast. In my defence it was a busy, windy, choppy day and we had to hire a crane to come to the club to step everyone's mast .. and I helped everyone, so when it came time to do my boat I was kind of on autopilot. We stepped 29 masts that day. So I failed to remember that there are wedges fore and aft at the mast base that keep the mast centered in the step. My girlfriend says to me the other day while pointing at a pair of wedges in the boat .. did you forget to put the wedges in the partner? Um, no I did not. Then I realized my mistake and took a look at the mast base ... the mast is seated all the way aft. I guess this would cause some forward rake? I'm all ears in regards to how this might affect the rig, sail shape, etc? In any case, I'de like to center the thing and put the wedges where they are supposed to go. I know I can loosen the tension on the rig and I've used halyards in place of the forestay and shrouds on previous occasions to fix this or that but even with the rig tension way down is the weight of the mast itself going to prevent me from sliding it forward about 1.5 inches? What would be the correct order to loosen the rig? Backstay, lowers, uppers? I'de rather not futz with the forestay if I can help it but I did just disconnect it about a week ago to fix a kink in the furler so I'm not shy to do it again. Any help/recommendations are much appreciated. Thanks, Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List 2012 Annapolis Bermuda Race CC 37
I scanned through the photos of 2012 Annapolis-Bermuda race and found a 37 named “Impromptu” out of Galesville, MD. Anyone know it? From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:46 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race All, One week to the gun! I want to thank all of you in advance for your support, advice, patience, equipment and even sails that have made it possible for me to enter the race. There will be fellow CC ers on the boat both ways! Our class includes Steve Sharkey's CC 37 as well as a mini transat 21 footer and a 100 foot schooner. Should make the starting line interesting. You can track us at www.bermudaoceanrace.com. They are using Spots, not Yellowbrick. Finally, as a follow up to an earlier post, I ran out of time to make a fancy enclosure for the frig compressor. Some corrugated plastic board from Home Depot and duct tape will suffice for now. If nothing else, it will serve as a template for a more permanent solution. -- Joel The Office Annapolis 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List PHRF ratings
I’m going to insert a comment here on keeping perspective with PHRF ratings. I recently had a conversation with an individual affiliated with our local ratings and he commented that 3 secs equates to approximately 1 boat length for every mile raced. So as nice as it is to get 3 or 6 secs, IMHO it’s really not a big deal. I can blow a tack and lose a boat length, multiply that by how many tacks are made in a mile and, well, it points out I should spend time on boat handling and less worrying about ratings. Obviously know the rules and use what’s made available to you, but keep in mind where real gains are made. Hope that helps. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 4:48 PM To: Gary Nylander; CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Technical sail discussion Gary, You are right about the above deck furler. I'm in the Gulf Yachting Association (gya.org) Here's the rule: The PHRF committee may allow +6 seconds per mile in rating for a roller furling headsail and +12 seconds for an optional IN-MAST roller furling mainsail. Boats must have a SA/DSPL less than 20.01 and an inboard or saildrive (non-retractable) engine to be eligible for credit(s). The attached form must be submitted to receive this credit. 1. Uses a working roller furling headsail attached to an above deck mounted roller furling system. Roller furling headsails must be tacked above the drum and may be interchangeable with other working roller furling headsails while racing. Possible +6 seconds! 2. Uses an optional working Roller Furling in-mast mainsail, which may have no more than 5 vertical battens and that the roach of the sail does not extend past the backstay (or a line from the top of the mast to the deck edge of the transom if a back stay is not standard on the boat) and is furled vertically by rolling rather than flaking. Possible +12 seconds! 3. For the Roller Furling Headsail credit the boat must have a sail area/displacement of less than 20.01. This value (SA/DSPL) is based on the following formula: SA/DSPL = SA / (DSPL/64)^2/3. Sail area and displacement values will be based on the standard dimensions published for the boat class by US Sailing (http://offshore.ussailing.org/phrf) “Critical dimensions” using 100% of the foretriangle and 100% mainsail and mizzen sail area. 4. Each boat has to apply for this credit individually, and the committee reserves the right to refuse the credit(s) to boats that they deem to be more racing than cruising. (Refer to GYA-PHRF.com for a copy of the form) 5. Will notify the PHRF Committee of any changes made to the above items. Touche's SA/DSPL is 20.0 Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I don't know about your PHRF area, but Chesapeake requires that the furler drum is above deck AND you have the UV patch (heavy cloth) on both the foot and leach of the sail. Then you get the six seconds. Gary - Original Message - From: Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Technical sail discussion Calypso's headsails were also cut for a furler with the higher foot, now about 18 off the deck. We still get a significant speed bubble in the main at the mid to upper wind range for the light and heavy #1s. The bubble shows up 6' to 25' (off the deck) on the mainsail. From my miss-spent youth crewing with serious race programs I expect there to be an advantage to the deck sweeper type headsails, more so for the early IOR type sail plans with big fore triangles and smaller mainsails. The engineers may reference something about an end plate effect. Over the last 10 years of club racing Calypso with roller furling headsails we see a significant decrease in performance at the low end of the wind range, especially in acceleration. Side by side with another CC 43 that had newer, non-furling headsails Calypso was left in the dust as the wind built from calm to 5 knots. Once the TWS was above 7 knots the speed difference was much less but the newer sails still pointed higher. After reading about your +6 per mile for the roller furler I need to take a close look at the PHRF-NW book and re-file Calypso's data. We are still using the old IMS/IOR type measurements. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 5:51 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Technical sail discussion I recently re-filed my PHRF certificate to get +6 seconds for a roller furler. Subsequently, I just had the luff my Mylar/Kevlar 155 cut down to fit on the furler. My sail maker cut a bunch off the foot. I was
Re: Stus-List C$C 32
Bob - Check with your local phrf organization or sail maker. This is the formula I was given for spin sail area in sqft. See if it makes sense for you. PHRF Rule ((SLU+SLE) x (4*SMG + SF))/12 Slu = spin luff Sle = spin leach Smg = spin mid-girth Sf = spin foot From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Michael Clow via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 4:44 AM To: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List C$C 32 My symmetrical chute was made specifically for racing by Al Declercq in Metro Detroit so it would be the maximum legal size. My sail certificate is online below with the dimensions. Perhaps someone else knows the formula to calculate square footage? http://desiresailing.org/Misc/SailCertificateSymChute1998CnC32.pdf There is no CC 32-II. The CC 32 (made 1979 to 1984) is actually 31.5 LOA. The CC99 is 32.5 feet and came out around 2000. The only similarity is that they are within .5 feet of 32 feet. Michael Clow Desire http://desiresailing.org/ , CC 32, Lake St. Clair From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:46 PM To: teq...@comcast.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List C$C 32 FX Sails thinks the 32 is 754 sq ft / 32 mk ll is 821 sq ft. (That’s for symmetrical) sam :-) From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Can Any one tell me the sail area of a Spinnaker for a CC 32, or the fomula to get the area? Thanks Bob ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
