Stus-List Auto pilot???

[Ted_Relinda--- via CnC-List]

I am looking for suggestions on an auto pilot for our 40-2. I don't think the 
Raymarine wheel pilot will work good enough. Anybody got suggestions on either 
s wheel mount or a quadrant mount. What do you use???  Also I would like to be 
able to connect to my B&G Zues3 down the line.  Thanks for any input. 
TedTen-TenPunta Gorda,Fl. 

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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot mounting 37/40

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

I can get a photo next weekend but it looks much like the ones others have
posted to secure the ram, a substantial marine plywood shelf glassed over
and securely tabbed to the hull interior.  The ram pokes through the
cockpit well wall and has a rubber flap on both sides to keep water
intrusion to a minimum.  I don't actually see any water get in through that
small hole.

Ken H.

On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 18:49, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Ken
>
> Well that was not expectedveery interesting.  How about a picture of
> the inside of the lazarette to the how the drive is mounted?
>
> Tom B
>
> .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C&C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com
>
>
> At 01:20 PM 5/25/2020, you wrote:
>
> --
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 17:05:24 -0300
> From: Ken Heaton 
> To: cnc-list 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Auto pilot mounting 37/40
> Message-ID:
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> caabfp6sbrt4qnlrgncoyow68jb2_coz0rhdzjknrocfd6s8...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> " so folks will build up the radial drive with reinforcement plates above
> and below the wheel and through bolt the attachment point through 3 layers
> of metal to mitigate any torsional loads from the ram."
>
> I think that is exactly what has been done to our Radial Wheel in the
> photos I linked (i.e. there is another plate below the wheel, out of sight
> in the photos)
>
> Photos here:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/GDctE5v2j7jdphxr7
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/mbUNnFetP4DzAZUW8
>
> If the Radial Wheel gave up the ghost as Chuck suggests could happen, the
> emergency tiller would still work. Better than nothing I suppose.
>
> Ken H.
>
> .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C&C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com
>
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Stus-List Auto pilot mounting 37/40

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

Ken

Well that was not expectedveery 
interesting.  How about a picture of the inside 
of the lazarette to the how the drive is mounted?


Tom B


.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com


At 01:20 PM 5/25/2020, you wrote:

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Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 17:05:24 -0300
From: Ken Heaton 
To: cnc-list 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Auto pilot mounting 37/40
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" so folks will build up the radial drive with reinforcement plates above
and below the wheel and through bolt the attachment point through 3 layers
of metal to mitigate any torsional loads from the ram."

I think that is exactly what has been done to our Radial Wheel in the
photos I linked (i.e. there is another plate below the wheel, out of sight
in the photos)

Photos here:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/GDctE5v2j7jdphxr7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mbUNnFetP4DzAZUW8

If the Radial Wheel gave up the ghost as Chuck suggests could happen, the
emergency tiller would still work. Better than nothing I suppose.

Ken H.


.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com


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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot mounting 37/40

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

" so folks will build up the radial drive with reinforcement plates above
and below the wheel and through bolt the attachment point through 3 layers
of metal to mitigate any torsional loads from the ram."

I think that is exactly what has been done to our Radial Wheel in the
photos I linked (i.e. there is another plate below the wheel, out of sight
in the photos)

Photos here:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/GDctE5v2j7jdphxr7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mbUNnFetP4DzAZUW8

If the Radial Wheel gave up the ghost as Chuck suggests could happen, the
emergency tiller would still work. Better than nothing I suppose.

Ken H.

On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 16:58, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The main reasons for having A separate attachment point for the autopilot
> is to provide system redundancy and the fact that the radial Drive is not
> adequately reinforced to withstand single point steering forces.  On the
> radial, steering loads are applied to the perimeter of the wheel spread out
> around the circumference and the casting has reinforced ribs to support the
> radial loads.  If the autopilot ram were to overpower the strength of the
> radial wheel, the wheel could crack or break rendering both the cable
> steering and the linear drive ram inoperative.
> In certain boats like a Landfall 38, there’s just no room for a tiller
> arm, so folks will build up the radial drive with reinforcement plates
> above and below the wheel and through bolt the attachment point through 3
> layers of metal to mitigate any torsional loads from the ram.  Having the
> ram well aligned will help in this application.
> Chuck Gilchrest
> S/V Half Magic
> 1983 35 Landfall
> Padanaram MA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 25, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Chris Riedinger via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/g1ViKUJJeLnRauD47
>
> Here's ours
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 12:22 PM Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Len,
>>
>> Many people will say you should not attach your autopilot to your
>> quadrant, but instead install another independent arm onto the rudder shaft.
>>
>> Still, ours is attached to our quadrant (Radial Wheel) and we've had no
>> problems with it there in 12 years.  We aren't sailing around the world
>> though.
>>
>> Photos here:
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/GDctE5v2j7jdphxr7
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/mbUNnFetP4DzAZUW8
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 15:31, Len Mitchell via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone have pictures of their Auto Pilot linear drive installation
>>> to the quadrant? So mounted in the port side lazarette. I have below deck
>>> pics. TIA
>>> Len Mitchell
>>> Crazy Legs
>>> 1989 37+
>>> Midland On.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my mobile device.
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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot mounting 37/40

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

The main reasons for having A separate attachment point for the autopilot is to 
provide system redundancy and the fact that the radial Drive is not adequately 
reinforced to withstand single point steering forces.  On the radial, steering 
loads are applied to the perimeter of the wheel spread out around the 
circumference and the casting has reinforced ribs to support the radial loads.  
If the autopilot ram were to overpower the strength of the radial wheel, the 
wheel could crack or break rendering both the cable steering and the linear 
drive ram inoperative.
In certain boats like a Landfall 38, there’s just no room for a tiller arm, so 
folks will build up the radial drive with reinforcement plates above and below 
the wheel and through bolt the attachment point through 3 layers of metal to 
mitigate any torsional loads from the ram.  Having the ram well aligned will 
help in this application.
Chuck Gilchrest 
S/V Half Magic 
1983 35 Landfall 
Padanaram MA

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 25, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Chris Riedinger via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/g1ViKUJJeLnRauD47
> 
> Here's ours
> 
>> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 12:22 PM Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Len,
>> 
>> Many people will say you should not attach your autopilot to your quadrant, 
>> but instead install another independent arm onto the rudder shaft.
>> 
>> Still, ours is attached to our quadrant (Radial Wheel) and we've had no 
>> problems with it there in 12 years.  We aren't sailing around the world 
>> though.
>> 
>> Photos here: 
>> 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/GDctE5v2j7jdphxr7
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/mbUNnFetP4DzAZUW8
>> 
>> Ken H.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 15:31, Len Mitchell via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Does anyone have pictures of their Auto Pilot linear drive installation to 
>>> the quadrant? So mounted in the port side lazarette. I have below deck 
>>> pics. TIA 
>>> Len Mitchell
>>> Crazy Legs
>>> 1989 37+
>>> Midland On. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my mobile device. 
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Stus-List Auto pilot mounting 37/40

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

If it’s for your 37+/40, forget about it.  Quadrant mounting is discouraged by 
Edson.  And the above  deck placement of the radial drive wheel makes it, if 
not impossible, nearly so.

I’m in the midst of my install but it is all below in the aft lazerette.

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


> On May 25, 2020, at 12:36 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 14:30:16 -0400
> From: Len Mitchell 
> To: CNC List 
> Subject: Stus-List Auto pilot mounting 37/40
> Message-ID: <42bd6e25-6470-468d-92b2-e2f64d436...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Does anyone have pictures of their Auto Pilot linear drive installation to 
> the quadrant? So mounted in the port side lazarette. I have below deck pics. 
> TIA 
> Len Mitchell
> Crazy Legs
> 1989 37+
> Midland On. 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot mounting 37/40

[Chris Riedinger via CnC-List]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/g1ViKUJJeLnRauD47

Here's ours

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 12:22 PM Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Len,
>
> Many people will say you should not attach your autopilot to your
> quadrant, but instead install another independent arm onto the rudder shaft.
>
> Still, ours is attached to our quadrant (Radial Wheel) and we've had no
> problems with it there in 12 years.  We aren't sailing around the world
> though.
>
> Photos here:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/GDctE5v2j7jdphxr7
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/mbUNnFetP4DzAZUW8
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 15:31, Len Mitchell via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have pictures of their Auto Pilot linear drive installation
>> to the quadrant? So mounted in the port side lazarette. I have below deck
>> pics. TIA
>> Len Mitchell
>> Crazy Legs
>> 1989 37+
>> Midland On.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my mobile device.
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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot mounting 37/40

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Hi Len,

Many people will say you should not attach your autopilot to your quadrant,
but instead install another independent arm onto the rudder shaft.

Still, ours is attached to our quadrant (Radial Wheel) and we've had no
problems with it there in 12 years.  We aren't sailing around the world
though.

Photos here:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/GDctE5v2j7jdphxr7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mbUNnFetP4DzAZUW8

Ken H.


On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 15:31, Len Mitchell via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have pictures of their Auto Pilot linear drive installation to
> the quadrant? So mounted in the port side lazarette. I have below deck
> pics. TIA
> Len Mitchell
> Crazy Legs
> 1989 37+
> Midland On.
>
>
> Sent from my mobile device.
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Stus-List Auto pilot mounting 37/40

[Len Mitchell via CnC-List]

Does anyone have pictures of their Auto Pilot linear drive installation to the 
quadrant? So mounted in the port side lazarette. I have below deck pics. TIA 
Len Mitchell
Crazy Legs
1989 37+
Midland On. 


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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot advice 34-36R

[James Bibb via CnC-List]

Thanks Dennis…I’m afraid I’d be back similar to the Ev-100 Tiller pilot from 
Raymarine where it would simply be undersized. 

And….and I’m operating almost exclusively on the NMEA 2000 Backbone as I move 
forward.  Got me thinking….



> On May 29, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Consider a Simrad TP32 if you have NMEA0183 interfacing. I think the Simrad 
> pilots are very good. The TP32 has essentially the same control circuit as my 
> Simrad WP30 Wheel Pilot.  The TP32 is self-contained and does not require any 
> separate components. 
> 
> I love my WP30!  I’ve got 20 years use out of my WP30 on my 35-1 and it’s 
> still going strong. (Disclaimer: I put a second WP30 on last month but the 
> old one was still fine.  I keep it as a spare.). The new one drove us 100+ 
> miles waypoint to waypoint over the weekend without a hiccup. 
> 
> My WP30 does steer to course using the integral fluxgate as well as steer to 
> waypoint and steer to wind angle via NMEA0183 interface. I use a Noland 
> NMEA0183 multiplexer. 
> 
> Used TP32’s can be found on eBay. New ones are under $700. 
> 
> Dennis C. 
> Touché 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot advice 34-36R

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Consider a Simrad TP32 if you have NMEA0183 interfacing. I think the Simrad
pilots are very good. The TP32 has essentially the same control circuit as
my Simrad WP30 Wheel Pilot.  The TP32 is self-contained and does not
require any separate components.

I love my WP30!  I’ve got 20 years use out of my WP30 on my 35-1 and it’s
still going strong. (Disclaimer: I put a second WP30 on last month but the
old one was still fine.  I keep it as a spare.). The new one drove us 100+
miles waypoint to waypoint over the weekend without a hiccup.

My WP30 does steer to course using the integral fluxgate as well as steer
to waypoint and steer to wind angle via NMEA0183 interface. I use a Noland
NMEA0183 multiplexer.

Used TP32’s can be found on eBay. New ones are under $700.

Dennis C.
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot advice 34-36R

[James Bibb via CnC-List]

mixing and matching…in my case the Raymarine does not connect to the B&G wind 
instrumentation or the chart plotter as well. 

But…but the main issues is that the tiller kicks off so it’s very un-reliable 
to a point where I’m not using it.  I can probably still sell it at a good 
price to a boat that could use it and that would allow me to…..find the right 
unit.  




> On May 29, 2019, at 11:39 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m here — but haven’t done anything quite like this with a tiller, so I’m 
> waiting to see if other owners of that model chime in.  And yes, I think 
> James is correct, the EV-100 tiller pilot is under-sized for this vessel.
> 
> Keep in mind that within certain parameters, you can mix and match autopilot 
> course computers and drives.  In Richard’s case, it was a Raymarine system 
> with an Octopus hydraulic linear drive.
> 
> — Fred
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
> 
>> On May 29, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Richard Bush via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I would highly recommend you contact Fred STreet of this List; 
>> f...@postaudio.net  <mailto:f...@postaudio.net>
>> Fred was able spec and procure everything needed to install an under deck 
>> Octopus autopilot for my 37; its tight, but it worksvery nice to have 
>> Fred as a resource as well... he has patiently helped me even when I ask 
>> repeat questions!
>> 
>> Richard
>> sv Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596
>> Richard N. Bush
>> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
>> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
>> 502-584-7255
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: James Bibb via CnC-List > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
>> To: Chuck S via CnC-List > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
>> Cc: James Bibb mailto:jamesb...@me.com>>
>> Sent: Wed, May 29, 2019 11:31 am
>> Subject: Stus-List Auto pilot advice 34-36R
>> 
>> I’ve given up on my Raymarine Ev-100 Tiller pilot.  It the motor drive 
>> alway’s kicks out and it’s a year old.  I’m assuming it’s under-powered for 
>> the size of boat I’m asking it to maneuver.  My electronics are B&G 
>> Triton2’s….looking at the B&G pilot model so that I can utilize my chart 
>> plotter, etc.  Any experience placing a ram underneath the stern rudder tube 
>> deck plate in these models?  there’s a location for a pedestal for other 
>> models instead of a tiller.  I hope to mount it underneath the deck plate 
>> but outside of the hull with a arm off of the rudder post below the tiller.  
>> I am considering a ram style for the movement. 
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> 
>> James Bibb
>> C&C 34-36R
>> Darwin’s Folly
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Stus-List Auto pilot advice 34-36R

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

I had same/similar issue on my new(to me) boat with EV-100. Make sure the
hex-head screw in drive lever is tight!!!
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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot advice 34-36R

[James Bibb via CnC-List]

Thanks Richard!  



> On May 29, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Richard Bush via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would highly recommend you contact Fred STreet of this List; 
> f...@postaudio.net  <mailto:f...@postaudio.net>
> Fred was able spec and procure everything needed to install an under deck 
> Octopus autopilot for my 37; its tight, but it worksvery nice to have 
> Fred as a resource as well... he has patiently helped me even when I ask 
> repeat questions!
> 
> Richard
> sv Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
> 502-584-7255
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Bibb via CnC-List 
> To: Chuck S via CnC-List 
> Cc: James Bibb 
> Sent: Wed, May 29, 2019 11:31 am
> Subject: Stus-List Auto pilot advice 34-36R
> 
> I’ve given up on my Raymarine Ev-100 Tiller pilot.  It the motor drive 
> alway’s kicks out and it’s a year old.  I’m assuming it’s under-powered for 
> the size of boat I’m asking it to maneuver.  My electronics are B&G 
> Triton2’s….looking at the B&G pilot model so that I can utilize my chart 
> plotter, etc.  Any experience placing a ram underneath the stern rudder tube 
> deck plate in these models?  there’s a location for a pedestal for other 
> models instead of a tiller.  I hope to mount it underneath the deck plate but 
> outside of the hull with a arm off of the rudder post below the tiller.  I am 
> considering a ram style for the movement. 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> James Bibb
> C&C 34-36R
> Darwin’s Folly
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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot advice 34-36R

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

I’m here — but haven’t done anything quite like this with a tiller, so I’m 
waiting to see if other owners of that model chime in.  And yes, I think James 
is correct, the EV-100 tiller pilot is under-sized for this vessel.

Keep in mind that within certain parameters, you can mix and match autopilot 
course computers and drives.  In Richard’s case, it was a Raymarine system with 
an Octopus hydraulic linear drive.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On May 29, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Richard Bush via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would highly recommend you contact Fred STreet of this List; 
> f...@postaudio.net  <mailto:f...@postaudio.net>
> Fred was able spec and procure everything needed to install an under deck 
> Octopus autopilot for my 37; its tight, but it worksvery nice to have 
> Fred as a resource as well... he has patiently helped me even when I ask 
> repeat questions!
> 
> Richard
> sv Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
> 502-584-7255
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Bibb via CnC-List 
> To: Chuck S via CnC-List 
> Cc: James Bibb 
> Sent: Wed, May 29, 2019 11:31 am
> Subject: Stus-List Auto pilot advice 34-36R
> 
> I’ve given up on my Raymarine Ev-100 Tiller pilot.  It the motor drive 
> alway’s kicks out and it’s a year old.  I’m assuming it’s under-powered for 
> the size of boat I’m asking it to maneuver.  My electronics are B&G 
> Triton2’s….looking at the B&G pilot model so that I can utilize my chart 
> plotter, etc.  Any experience placing a ram underneath the stern rudder tube 
> deck plate in these models?  there’s a location for a pedestal for other 
> models instead of a tiller.  I hope to mount it underneath the deck plate but 
> outside of the hull with a arm off of the rudder post below the tiller.  I am 
> considering a ram style for the movement. 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> James Bibb
> C&C 34-36R
> Darwin’s Folly
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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot advice 34-36R

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

I would highly recommend you contact Fred STreet of this List; 
f...@postaudio.net 
Fred was able spec and procure everything needed to install an under deck 
Octopus autopilot for my 37; its tight, but it worksvery nice to have Fred 
as a resource as well... he has patiently helped me even when I ask repeat 
questions!
 
Richard
 sv Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596
Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
-Original Message-
From: James Bibb via CnC-List 
To: Chuck S via CnC-List 
Cc: James Bibb 
Sent: Wed, May 29, 2019 11:31 am
Subject: Stus-List Auto pilot advice 34-36R

I’ve given up on my Raymarine Ev-100 Tiller pilot.  It the motor drive alway’s 
kicks out and it’s a year old.  I’m assuming it’s under-powered for the size of 
boat I’m asking it to maneuver.  My electronics are B&G Triton2’s….looking at 
the B&G pilot model so that I can utilize my chart plotter, etc.  Any 
experience placing a ram underneath the stern rudder tube deck plate in these 
models?  there’s a location for a pedestal for other models instead of a 
tiller.  I hope to mount it underneath the deck plate but outside of the hull 
with a arm off of the rudder post below the tiller.  I am considering a ram 
style for the movement. 

Thanks 

James Bibb
C&C 34-36R
Darwin’s Folly
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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot advice 34-36R

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

I imagine a hydraulic or electric ram might fit in the well if one end were 
anchored forward of the rudder post, and the ram extended fore and aft instead 
of being mounted athwartship. The ram will work either way. The control head 
will need to be oriented on the centerline of the boat and a rudder sensor may 
be required.

CS


> On May 29, 2019 at 1:09 PM James Bibb  wrote:
> 
> 
> I found this little drive unit by Simrad/B&G which looks to be 
> manufactured by Jeffa.  It has an integrated rudder sensor.  This would, I 
> assume fit right underneath the deck filler and hood to an arm.  Typical rams 
> look to be too long for the space. 
> 
> 
> 
> [Image result for dd15 drive unit]
> 
> 
> > > On May 29, 2019, at 8:56 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER < 
> cscheaf...@comcast.net mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi James,
> > My R model was originally built with a wheel and later the PO 
> > converted to a tiller. That's how she was when I got her and I installed 
> > the wheel the first summer. I use a Raymarine wheel pilot and it works very 
> > well. I had to replace the head after 12 years and the new model seems 
> > better. I bought the head with pilot and keep it as a spare while the old 
> > one still works fine.
> > 
> > I have seen underdeck rams installed on the plus models.
> > One owner hired the boatyard to install the ram and they dropped 
> > the rudder and cut the fiberglass tube and installed an arm onto the SS 
> > shaft.
> > 
> > Another owner with wheel steering installed his a ram so it 
> > attaches to the radial which lives under the deck filler. That sounds like 
> > your plan and I like that better. I'll try and find some pictures.
> > 
> > Last thought: The best autopilots are used by the solo racers on 
> > Figaro II and Vendee Globe boats. Those guys drive their boats hard in high 
> > winds and big seas and the pilots they use have to steer for months to 
> > circle the globe. I would research that and see what brand they install.
> > 
> > Good luck and keep us posted.
> > 
> > Chuck, Resolute 1990 C&C 34/36R
> > 
> > > > > On May 29, 2019 at 11:31 AM James Bibb via CnC-List < 
> > cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I’ve given up on my Raymarine Ev-100 Tiller pilot. It the 
> > > motor drive alway’s kicks out and it’s a year old. I’m assuming it’s 
> > > under-powered for the size of boat I’m asking it to maneuver. My 
> > > electronics are B&G Triton2’s….looking at the B&G pilot model so that I 
> > > can utilize my chart plotter, etc. Any experience placing a ram 
> > > underneath the stern rudder tube deck plate in these models? there’s a 
> > > location for a pedestal for other models instead of a tiller. I hope to 
> > > mount it underneath the deck plate but outside of the hull with a arm off 
> > > of the rudder post below the tiller. I am considering a ram style for the 
> > > movement.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > James Bibb
> > > C&C 34-36R
> > > Darwin’s Folly
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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot advice 34-36R

[James Bibb via CnC-List]

I found this little drive unit by Simrad/B&G which looks to be manufactured by 
Jeffa.  It has an integrated rudder sensor.  This would, I assume fit right 
underneath the deck filler and hood to an arm.  Typical rams look to be too 
long for the space. 





> On May 29, 2019, at 8:56 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER  wrote:
> 
> Hi James,
> My R model was originally built with a wheel and later the PO converted to a 
> tiller. That's how she was when I got her and I installed the wheel the first 
> summer. I use a Raymarine wheel pilot and it works very well. I had to 
> replace the head after 12 years and the new model seems better. I bought the 
> head with pilot and keep it as a spare while the old one still works fine. 
> 
> I have seen underdeck rams installed on the plus models. 
> One owner hired the boatyard to install the ram and they dropped the rudder 
> and cut the fiberglass tube and installed an arm onto the SS shaft. 
> 
> Another owner with wheel steering installed his a ram so it attaches to the 
> radial which lives under the deck filler. That sounds like your plan and I 
> like that better. I'll try and find some pictures.
> 
> Last thought: The best autopilots are used by the solo racers on Figaro II 
> and Vendee Globe boats. Those guys drive their boats hard in high winds and 
> big seas and the pilots they use have to steer for months to circle the 
> globe. I would research that and see what brand they install. 
> 
> Good luck and keep us posted.
> 
> Chuck, Resolute 1990 C&C 34/36R
>> On May 29, 2019 at 11:31 AM James Bibb via CnC-List > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I’ve given up on my Raymarine Ev-100 Tiller pilot. It the motor drive 
>> alway’s kicks out and it’s a year old. I’m assuming it’s under-powered for 
>> the size of boat I’m asking it to maneuver. My electronics are B&G 
>> Triton2’s….looking at the B&G pilot model so that I can utilize my chart 
>> plotter, etc. Any experience placing a ram underneath the stern rudder tube 
>> deck plate in these models? there’s a location for a pedestal for other 
>> models instead of a tiller. I hope to mount it underneath the deck plate but 
>> outside of the hull with a arm off of the rudder post below the tiller. I am 
>> considering a ram style for the movement. 
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> 
>> James Bibb
>> C&C 34-36R
>> Darwin’s Folly
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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot advice 34-36R

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Hi James,
My R model was originally built with a wheel and later the PO converted to a 
tiller. That's how she was when I got her and I installed the wheel the first 
summer. I use a Raymarine wheel pilot and it works very well. I had to replace 
the head after 12 years and the new model seems better. I bought the head with 
pilot and keep it as a spare while the old one still works fine.

I have seen underdeck rams installed on the plus models.
One owner hired the boatyard to install the ram and they dropped the rudder and 
cut the fiberglass tube and installed an arm onto the SS shaft.

Another owner with wheel steering installed his a ram so it attaches to the 
radial which lives under the deck filler. That sounds like your plan and I like 
that better. I'll try and find some pictures.

Last thought: The best autopilots are used by the solo racers on Figaro II and 
Vendee Globe boats. Those guys drive their boats hard in high winds and big 
seas and the pilots they use have to steer for months to circle the globe. I 
would research that and see what brand they install.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Chuck, Resolute 1990 C&C 34/36R

> On May 29, 2019 at 11:31 AM James Bibb via CnC-List  mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> 
> 
> I’ve given up on my Raymarine Ev-100 Tiller pilot. It the motor drive 
> alway’s kicks out and it’s a year old. I’m assuming it’s under-powered for 
> the size of boat I’m asking it to maneuver. My electronics are B&G 
> Triton2’s….looking at the B&G pilot model so that I can utilize my chart 
> plotter, etc. Any experience placing a ram underneath the stern rudder tube 
> deck plate in these models? there’s a location for a pedestal for other 
> models instead of a tiller. I hope to mount it underneath the deck plate but 
> outside of the hull with a arm off of the rudder post below the tiller. I am 
> considering a ram style for the movement.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> James Bibb
> C&C 34-36R
> Darwin’s Folly
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Stus-List Auto pilot advice 34-36R

[James Bibb via CnC-List]

I’ve given up on my Raymarine Ev-100 Tiller pilot.  It the motor drive alway’s 
kicks out and it’s a year old.  I’m assuming it’s under-powered for the size of 
boat I’m asking it to maneuver.  My electronics are B&G Triton2’s….looking at 
the B&G pilot model so that I can utilize my chart plotter, etc.  Any 
experience placing a ram underneath the stern rudder tube deck plate in these 
models?  there’s a location for a pedestal for other models instead of a 
tiller.  I hope to mount it underneath the deck plate but outside of the hull 
with a arm off of the rudder post below the tiller.  I am considering a ram 
style for the movement. 

Thanks 

James Bibb
C&C 34-36R
Darwin’s Folly
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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot upgrade

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

I had a ST4000 on my 35 Mk II.  I was never happy with it.  Went with a
below deck unit, and never looked back.  If you are not handy enough to
install it yourself, it can be an expensive undertaking.

Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+

~~~_/)~~


On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Allan Hester via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> One of the upgrades on my list is to replace the ancient Autohelm ST 4000
> with a unit from this century. It still works, kind of,  but I would like
> a unit that can keep up with rolling seas.
>
> I will likely go with another wheel helm autopilot but would consider an
> under deck unit. I think an under deck unit would be a lot of extra work
> and expense to install but I don't know as I have no experience in this
> area.
>
> Any advice/experience with these 2 options?
>
> AL H.
> C&C 35 Mk 3 #264
> Vancouver, BC.
>
>
>
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[Allan Hester via CnC-List]

Listers,

One of the upgrades on my list is to replace the ancient Autohelm ST 4000
with a unit from this century. It still works, kind of,  but I would like a 
unit that can keep up with rolling seas.

I will likely go with another wheel helm autopilot but would consider an under 
deck unit. I think an under deck unit would be a lot of extra work and expense 
to install but I don't know as I have no experience in this area.

Any advice/experience with these 2 options?

AL H.
C&C 35 Mk 3 #264
Vancouver, BC.



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Re: Stus-List auto pilot

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Larry,

I had a previous generation Ray wheel pilot on my 35-3.  It worked well for
the uses you described.  Over about 12 knots of wind it would start to
struggle unless the rig was really balanced.

Joel

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 9:39 PM, bushmark4--- via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Larry, you should contact Fred Street of this List; he has access to the
> parts and equipment needed and knows what will work and what to stay away
> fromand he has a C&C...; I sail on a river and use my auto pilot very
> much like you described;  I was/am very happy with his recommendations.
>
>
> Richard
> S/V Bushmark4 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
>
>
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: Larry 
> Sent: Mon, Nov 21, 2016 6:25 pm
> Subject: Stus-List auto pilot
>
> My st4000 plus auto pilot went belly up. Everything is working except for
> the controller. When I switch to Auto I get the common low battery error
> and no data received. I have done a complete job of troubleshooting and it
> is the control unit/display. Raymarine no longer service this unit. I
> located one place in Florida that works on them, but I don’t want to go
> that uncertain route. I am going to remove and replace with another unit. I
> just sail the Puget Sound and never get into the blue water. I only use the
> Autopilot to single or short handle my boat. Mainly raising and lowering
> sails or taking a head break when I single handle it. I never use it in
> rough water. My boat weighs in around 14,500 lbs. I am contemplating the
> ev-100 spx-5. Anyone have any suggestions. I want to keep in simple. My
> wheel unit and compass work fine.
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[bushmark4--- via CnC-List]

Larry, you should contact Fred Street of this List; he has access to the parts 
and equipment needed and knows what will work and what to stay away fromand 
he has a C&C...; I sail on a river and use my auto pilot very much like you 
described;  I was/am very happy with his recommendations.
 

 


Richard
S/V Bushmark4 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;


Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Larry via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Larry 
Sent: Mon, Nov 21, 2016 6:25 pm
Subject: Stus-List auto pilot



My st4000 plus auto pilot went belly up. Everything is working except for the 
controller. When I switch to Auto I get the common low battery error and no 
data received. I have done a complete job of troubleshooting and it is the 
control unit/display. Raymarine no longer service this unit. I located one 
place in Florida that works on them, but I don’t want to go that uncertain 
route. I am going to remove and replace with another unit. I just sail the 
Puget Sound and never get into the blue water. I only use the Autopilot to 
single or short handle my boat. Mainly raising and lowering sails or taking a 
head break when I single handle it. I never use it in rough water. My boat 
weighs in around 14,500 lbs. I am contemplating the ev-100 spx-5. Anyone have 
any suggestions. I want to keep in simple. My wheel unit and compass work fine.

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[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

And btw, there’s a $100.00 rebate on these systems if purchased before December 
5th (US and Canada only).

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 6:30 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Larry — in order to use your existing drive, you’ll need to either purchase a 
> used or old stock SPX course computer and associated control head (someplace 
> like eBay); or piece together a system using the newer ACU-100 course 
> computer (list $399.99), p70 control head ($534.99 list) and EV-1 heading 
> sensor ($599.99 list), plus associated SeaTalkNG cabling, for a total of over 
> $1550.00.  For $1599.99 list, you can get the complete system WITH a new 
> wheel drive.  I’d suggest you seriously consider that option.
> 
> As with all members of the C&C list, you can take advantage of the fact that 
> I used to sell and install marine electronics and I’ve kept my vendor 
> relationships, so I can source items for you at near-dealer cost.  Contact me 
> off-list and let me know if you’d like me to price anything for you.
> 
> — Fred
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Larry via CnC-List > > wrote:
>> 
>> My st4000 plus auto pilot went belly up. Everything is working except for 
>> the controller. When I switch to Auto I get the common low battery error and 
>> no data received. I have done a complete job of troubleshooting and it is 
>> the control unit/display. Raymarine no longer service this unit. I located 
>> one place in Florida that works on them, but I don’t want to go that 
>> uncertain route. I am going to remove and replace with another unit. I just 
>> sail the Puget Sound and never get into the blue water. I only use the 
>> Autopilot to single or short handle my boat. Mainly raising and lowering 
>> sails or taking a head break when I single handle it. I never use it in 
>> rough water. My boat weighs in around 14,500 lbs. I am contemplating the 
>> ev-100 spx-5. Anyone have any suggestions. I want to keep in simple. My 
>> wheel unit and compass work fine.

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[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Larry — in order to use your existing drive, you’ll need to either purchase a 
used or old stock SPX course computer and associated control head (someplace 
like eBay); or piece together a system using the newer ACU-100 course computer 
(list $399.99), p70 control head ($534.99 list) and EV-1 heading sensor 
($599.99 list), plus associated SeaTalkNG cabling, for a total of over 
$1550.00.  For $1599.99 list, you can get the complete system WITH a new wheel 
drive.  I’d suggest you seriously consider that option.

As with all members of the C&C list, you can take advantage of the fact that I 
used to sell and install marine electronics and I’ve kept my vendor 
relationships, so I can source items for you at near-dealer cost.  Contact me 
off-list and let me know if you’d like me to price anything for you.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Nov 21, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Larry via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> My st4000 plus auto pilot went belly up. Everything is working except for the 
> controller. When I switch to Auto I get the common low battery error and no 
> data received. I have done a complete job of troubleshooting and it is the 
> control unit/display. Raymarine no longer service this unit. I located one 
> place in Florida that works on them, but I don’t want to go that uncertain 
> route. I am going to remove and replace with another unit. I just sail the 
> Puget Sound and never get into the blue water. I only use the Autopilot to 
> single or short handle my boat. Mainly raising and lowering sails or taking a 
> head break when I single handle it. I never use it in rough water. My boat 
> weighs in around 14,500 lbs. I am contemplating the ev-100 spx-5. Anyone have 
> any suggestions. I want to keep in simple. My wheel unit and compass work 
> fine.

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[Larry via CnC-List]

My st4000 plus auto pilot went belly up. Everything is working except for
the controller. When I switch to Auto I get the common low battery error and
no data received. I have done a complete job of troubleshooting and it is
the control unit/display. Raymarine no longer service this unit. I located
one place in Florida that works on them, but I don't want to go that
uncertain route. I am going to remove and replace with another unit. I just
sail the Puget Sound and never get into the blue water. I only use the
Autopilot to single or short handle my boat. Mainly raising and lowering
sails or taking a head break when I single handle it. I never use it in
rough water. My boat weighs in around 14,500 lbs. I am contemplating the
ev-100 spx-5. Anyone have any suggestions. I want to keep in simple. My
wheel unit and compass work fine.

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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot installation

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

On my C&C 29, I mounted the control head in a small pod on the binnacle hand 
rail.  This worked
well as I already had an empty navpod, and I was using an iPhone 
navionics/inavx for navigation.

When I moved the autopilot over to the LF38, I mounted the control head on the 
starboard
cockpit coaming above the hand bilge pump and accessible from the helm.   I 
have a raymarine
e7d chart plotter at the helm, and eventually I’ll network the autopilot to the 
chart plotter so I will 
be able to additional control the autopilot from the chart plotter.

I did consider mounting the control head on the companionway bulkhead, but 
opted for the 
control head access from the helm.  As others noted, this is a smart choice, 
and I’m very 
happy with the set up. It also ended up being the simplest installation 
solution. 

I have an photo of the LF38 set up on my blog:

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/AutopilotWork

On another note, I mounted a standard horizon remote mic (RAM3) along side the 
autopilot control head.  I know that this is changing the subject, but adding 
the RAM3 
was one of the better investments I’ve made. Having VHF access from the helm is
also a smart idea.

-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Mar 28, 2016, at 8:30 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
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> We have purchased a wheel pilot for our 1976 C&C 33, but are wondering
> where others have installed the control head?  The T shaped cockpit doesn't
> seem to have much 'free' space.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> Annette

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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot installation

[mike amirault via CnC-List]

Make sure you put the autopilot control head within reach from the helm. I made 
the big mistake of initially mounting it on the bulkhead, not good. I 
eventually relocated it on a pod on the pedestal, big improvement.___

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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot installation

[David via CnC-List]

Same here.   Never had a need to change.

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 20:41:09 -0400
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Auto pilot installation
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I mounted mine on a Navpod on the pedestal guard on my C&C 35 Mk 
II.Gary~~~_/)~~



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others have installed the control head?  The T shaped cockpit doesn't seem to 
have much 'free' space.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Annette

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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot installation

[Rod Randow via CnC-List]

On my 1976/77 C&C33 the ST 4000 control head is installed (2001) on the
port T bulkhead (similar to  the engine control panel on the opposite
side). It is mounted as high and aft as quarter berth access will allow.
There is a round inspection port next to and aft of the control head. I do
occasionally bump the buttons with my legs when adjusting lines/sheets. On
this older unit the fluxgate compass is installed under the floor of the
bottom most hanging locker opening.

Rod
C&C 33-1

On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Annette Reesor via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> We have purchased a wheel pilot for our 1976 C&C 33, but are wondering
> where others have installed the control head?  The T shaped cockpit doesn't
> seem to have much 'free' space.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Annette
>
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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot installation

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Ditto.  It’s the only instrument I have at the wheel.   I kept the navpod base 
fitting loose so it can be turned to either side or forward for better viewing.

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Russell 
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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 7:41 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Auto pilot installation

 

I mounted mine on a Navpod on the pedestal guard on my C&C 35 Mk II.

Gary




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On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Annette Reesor via CnC-List 
 wrote:

We have purchased a wheel pilot for our 1976 C&C 33, but are wondering where 
others have installed the control head?  The T shaped cockpit doesn't seem to 
have much 'free' space.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Annette


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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot installation

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

Ours is mounted on the inside of the cockpit on starboard, in the narrow
part of the T. Wherever you mount it, make sure you can't do stuff to it
with your knees while docking, etc.
We have had sudden episodes of tight circles when someone rushes to the
natural point to grab lines. If it's disengaged it's just really annoying,
but the beeps drive me crazy.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 27 March 2016 at 17:43, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
wrote:

> If you plan to operate the boat singlehanded then I suggest finding a
> place that is as easy to reach from in front of the helm as it is from
> behind.  Directly outboard of the wheel works well on my boat.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Mar 27, 2016 8:37 PM, "Annette Reesor via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> We have purchased a wheel pilot for our 1976 C&C 33, but are wondering
>> where others have installed the control head?  The T shaped cockpit doesn't
>> seem to have much 'free' space.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
>> Annette
>>
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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot installation

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

If you plan to operate the boat singlehanded then I suggest finding a place
that is as easy to reach from in front of the helm as it is from behind.
Directly outboard of the wheel works well on my boat.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Mar 27, 2016 8:37 PM, "Annette Reesor via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> We have purchased a wheel pilot for our 1976 C&C 33, but are wondering
> where others have installed the control head?  The T shaped cockpit doesn't
> seem to have much 'free' space.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Annette
>
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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot installation

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

I mounted mine on a Navpod on the pedestal guard on my C&C 35 Mk II.
Gary

~~~_/)~~


On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Annette Reesor via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> We have purchased a wheel pilot for our 1976 C&C 33, but are wondering
> where others have installed the control head?  The T shaped cockpit doesn't
> seem to have much 'free' space.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Annette
>
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Stus-List Auto pilot installation

[Annette Reesor via CnC-List]

We have purchased a wheel pilot for our 1976 C&C 33, but are wondering
where others have installed the control head?  The T shaped cockpit doesn't
seem to have much 'free' space.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Annette
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