Re: Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I saw a real Bruce in a consignment store. Worth getting?
My Danforth is usually very good here when it digs down into the clay. 
Sometimes it is about impossible to get loose. OTOH sometimes it gets one 
oyster shell on each fluke and does nothing ☹
Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I
22 pound Danforth HT and 16 pound Fortress that will plane on the surface if 
dragged at 6 knots

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A friend has done extensive anchor testing, if you don't watch any of his other 
videos, watch this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l59f-OjWoq0. He picked 
the Spade as the best design for himself, partly because the roll bar anchors 
didn't work well on his setup.
I use a 35-lb Delta with 100' of 1/4" HT chain and 300' of 1/2" nylon, the 
whole setup works well for me. I installed a Lewmar V700 windlass in the anchor 
locker to make life easier and it has worked just fine. 
http://members.shaw.ca/ptarmiganshift/images/IMG_0743.jpg.
I was carrying a 22-lb Lewmar Claw for backup, then another friend sold me a 
33-lb genuine Bruce which is my new backup. The design and construction details 
are vastly different on the Lewmar claw, the edges are blunt, the curvatures 
are very different, and the whole anchor is crudely made compared to the Bruce.
Steve (the Panope anchor guy) found that knockoff anchors are frequently 
useless. He couldn't get a Bruce copy to set, same results with a Danforth 
copy. I almost feel guilty selling the Claw knowing it is not a great anchor.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC




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Re: Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

A friend has done extensive anchor testing, if you don't watch any of his
other videos, watch this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l59f-OjWoq0.
He picked the Spade as the best design for himself, partly because the roll
bar anchors didn't work well on his setup.

I use a 35-lb Delta with 100' of 1/4" HT chain and 300' of 1/2" nylon, the
whole setup works well for me. I installed a Lewmar V700 windlass in the
anchor locker to make life easier and it has worked just fine.
http://members.shaw.ca/ptarmiganshift/images/IMG_0743.jpg.
I was carrying a 22-lb Lewmar Claw for backup, then another friend sold me
a 33-lb genuine Bruce which is my new backup. The design and construction
details are vastly different on the Lewmar claw, the edges are blunt, the
curvatures are very different, and the whole anchor is crudely made
compared to the Bruce.

Steve (the Panope anchor guy) found that knockoff anchors are frequently
useless. He couldn't get a Bruce copy to set, same results with a Danforth
copy. I almost feel guilty selling the Claw knowing it is not a great
anchor.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC



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Re: Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I have a Rocna that recently got tested in a 50+ knot squall and was one of two 
boats in the anchorage that did not drag.  So I am a happy customer.  The only 
thing I am unhappy with is the roll bar.  I did not realize it when I bought 
it, but the anchor does not fit under the stanchions, so it is a real pain to 
do anything with once installed.  I had been thinking about putting it in the 
anchor locker while racing, but that turns out to be impossible.  Not a big 
deal, but might be for some.   Dave

Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT


> On Oct 24, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Over the past 7 years working at and now managing a municipal marina along 
> the ICW, I've gotten to know a lot of liveaboard cruising boaters. Most 
> liveaboard spend most of their time at anchor, so setting and holding has a 
> high priority. From what I have seen and heard from them, the order of 
> preference and frequency of use of their anchors appears to be:
> 
> Rocna
> Mantus (a less expensive Rocna)(One or the other of these two are 
> probably on 40-50% of the boats. And I'm starting to see the versions of the 
> Rocna (called a Vulcan) and Mantus anchors that do not have the "roll bar" 
> across the top, because these versions work well on most bow rollers.)
> Spade and Bruce (or a Bruce knockoff like the Simpson Lawrence Claw) - these 
> two are about even in frequency and are on maybe 25-30% of the boats
> Almost all of the other anchors I notice on cruising boats are some sort of 
> plow type anchor
> The cruisers who have a Danforth type anchor (including Fortress and 
> Guardian) aboard seem to view it as a lunch hook (or kedge anchor for getting 
> unstuck if aground) and not a primary anchor. (I will say that I got the idea 
> for carrying the Fortress FX23 I have aboard Imzadi for a lunch hook, and the 
> FX37 I carry as a 3rd storm anchor, from some cruising friends of mine. The 
> Fortress and Guardian anchors break down and store easily when not in use, 
> and they are light to schlep around the boat when you do use them.)
> 
> Danforth type anchors seem to be ubiquitous on smaller power boats (if they 
> have an anchor at all), and on sailboats and larger power boats that spend 
> their lives at marina docks.
> 
> Most of the cruisers seem to favor big anchors. The rule taught me many years 
> ago by an old USCG Mater Chief was 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat 
> and at least 1 foot of chain for every foot of boat. Most of the cruisers 
> seem to follow that sort of norm, and I see a lot of even heavier anchors. A 
> 40' trawler in the marina right now has a 25kg Rocna as a primary anchor.
> 
> On another observation based on my experience: The anchorage area off the 
> marina in Washington is soft mud running from about 6 to 16 feet deep, with 
> reversing current in response to strong and/or changing winds. In 7 years the 
> only boat than has never dragged is a 34 Hunter that uses a 15kg Rocna and 
> 100 feet of chain (I asked). Virtually every boat that uses a Danforth has 
> been in the weeds at least once (one of them went into the Highway Bridge 3 
> times before the owner wised up).
> 
> Different anchors have different benefits. A Danforth is supposed to be good 
> in sand and suck if there is shell, gravel or weed, for example. So I don't 
> see that there is a WORST anchor. But my guess is that a Danforth is in the 
> running for the title of LEAST RELIABLE anchor because it gets flipped out if 
> your boat gets blown over the top of it by wind or current, and it doesn't 
> want to reset. But it makes an good lunch hook if you are on the boat and 
> awake.
> 
> 
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Tirtirau via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 7:53 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Christian Tirtirau <christian_tirti...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll
> 
> I second Dave’s view on the 3rd generation anchors. CQR is in fact the worst 
> anchor ever made, that’s why they had to be heavily oversized to work. Delta 
> is a 2nd generation anchor, good but not great.
> For such a critical piece of equipment the choice should be one of the 3rd 
> gen anchors. Spade is the best anchor in the world, followed by Rocna and 
> Mantus.
> The Spade is also the most expensive anchor in the world, so for most sailors 
> it’s a toss between the next two in line.
> I have a Rocna 15 kg with 300 feet of 5/16 Acco chain and, consequently  I 
> spend most of my time tending other people’s anchors and boats rather than 
> mine. All t

Re: Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll

[Allen Miles via CnC-List]

If one were to upgrade to a 33# Vulcan (30 foot boat), what would be a
suitable windlass to retrieve it while fitting in the std C anchor locker?

Allen Miles
S/v Septima   30-2
Hampton, VA

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Over the past 7 years working at and now managing a municipal marina along
> the ICW, I've gotten to know a lot of liveaboard cruising boaters. Most
> liveaboard spend most of their time at anchor, so setting and holding has a
> high priority. From what I have seen and heard from them, the order of
> preference and frequency of use of their anchors appears to be:
>
> Rocna
> Mantus (a less expensive Rocna)(One or the other of these two are
> probably on 40-50% of the boats. And I'm starting to see the versions of
> the Rocna (called a Vulcan) and Mantus anchors that do not have the "roll
> bar" across the top, because these versions work well on most bow rollers.)
> Spade and Bruce (or a Bruce knockoff like the Simpson Lawrence Claw) -
> these two are about even in frequency and are on maybe 25-30% of the boats
> Almost all of the other anchors I notice on cruising boats are some sort
> of plow type anchor
> The cruisers who have a Danforth type anchor (including Fortress and
> Guardian) aboard seem to view it as a lunch hook (or kedge anchor for
> getting unstuck if aground) and not a primary anchor. (I will say that I
> got the idea for carrying the Fortress FX23 I have aboard Imzadi for a
> lunch hook, and the FX37 I carry as a 3rd storm anchor, from some cruising
> friends of mine. The Fortress and Guardian anchors break down and store
> easily when not in use, and they are light to schlep around the boat when
> you do use them.)
>
> Danforth type anchors seem to be ubiquitous on smaller power boats (if
> they have an anchor at all), and on sailboats and larger power boats that
> spend their lives at marina docks.
>
> Most of the cruisers seem to favor big anchors. The rule taught me many
> years ago by an old USCG Mater Chief was 1 pound of anchor for every foot
> of boat and at least 1 foot of chain for every foot of boat. Most of the
> cruisers seem to follow that sort of norm, and I see a lot of even heavier
> anchors. A 40' trawler in the marina right now has a 25kg Rocna as a
> primary anchor.
>
> On another observation based on my experience: The anchorage area off the
> marina in Washington is soft mud running from about 6 to 16 feet deep, with
> reversing current in response to strong and/or changing winds. In 7 years
> the only boat than has never dragged is a 34 Hunter that uses a 15kg Rocna
> and 100 feet of chain (I asked). Virtually every boat that uses a Danforth
> has been in the weeds at least once (one of them went into the Highway
> Bridge 3 times before the owner wised up).
>
> Different anchors have different benefits. A Danforth is supposed to be
> good in sand and suck if there is shell, gravel or weed, for example. So I
> don't see that there is a WORST anchor. But my guess is that a Danforth is
> in the running for the title of LEAST RELIABLE anchor because it gets
> flipped out if your boat gets blown over the top of it by wind or current,
> and it doesn't want to reset. But it makes an good lunch hook if you are on
> the boat and awake.
>
>
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
> Christian Tirtirau via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 7:53 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Christian Tirtirau <christian_tirti...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll
>
> I second Dave’s view on the 3rd generation anchors. CQR is in fact the
> worst anchor ever made, that’s why they had to be heavily oversized to
> work. Delta is a 2nd generation anchor, good but not great.
> For such a critical piece of equipment the choice should be one of the 3rd
> gen anchors. Spade is the best anchor in the world, followed by Rocna and
> Mantus.
> The Spade is also the most expensive anchor in the world, so for most
> sailors it’s a toss between the next two in line.
> I have a Rocna 15 kg with 300 feet of 5/16 Acco chain and, consequently  I
> spend most of my time tending other people’s anchors and boats rather than
> mine. All that tackle is handled by me with the help of an electric Maxwell
> windlass.
>
> Chris
> C 37 Northern Light
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Re: Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Over the past 7 years working at and now managing a municipal marina along the 
ICW, I've gotten to know a lot of liveaboard cruising boaters. Most liveaboard 
spend most of their time at anchor, so setting and holding has a high priority. 
From what I have seen and heard from them, the order of preference and 
frequency of use of their anchors appears to be:

Rocna
Mantus (a less expensive Rocna)(One or the other of these two are probably 
on 40-50% of the boats. And I'm starting to see the versions of the Rocna 
(called a Vulcan) and Mantus anchors that do not have the "roll bar" across the 
top, because these versions work well on most bow rollers.)
Spade and Bruce (or a Bruce knockoff like the Simpson Lawrence Claw) - these 
two are about even in frequency and are on maybe 25-30% of the boats
Almost all of the other anchors I notice on cruising boats are some sort of 
plow type anchor
The cruisers who have a Danforth type anchor (including Fortress and Guardian) 
aboard seem to view it as a lunch hook (or kedge anchor for getting unstuck if 
aground) and not a primary anchor. (I will say that I got the idea for carrying 
the Fortress FX23 I have aboard Imzadi for a lunch hook, and the FX37 I carry 
as a 3rd storm anchor, from some cruising friends of mine. The Fortress and 
Guardian anchors break down and store easily when not in use, and they are 
light to schlep around the boat when you do use them.)

Danforth type anchors seem to be ubiquitous on smaller power boats (if they 
have an anchor at all), and on sailboats and larger power boats that spend 
their lives at marina docks.

Most of the cruisers seem to favor big anchors. The rule taught me many years 
ago by an old USCG Mater Chief was 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat and 
at least 1 foot of chain for every foot of boat. Most of the cruisers seem to 
follow that sort of norm, and I see a lot of even heavier anchors. A 40' 
trawler in the marina right now has a 25kg Rocna as a primary anchor.

On another observation based on my experience: The anchorage area off the 
marina in Washington is soft mud running from about 6 to 16 feet deep, with 
reversing current in response to strong and/or changing winds. In 7 years the 
only boat than has never dragged is a 34 Hunter that uses a 15kg Rocna and 100 
feet of chain (I asked). Virtually every boat that uses a Danforth has been in 
the weeds at least once (one of them went into the Highway Bridge 3 times 
before the owner wised up).

Different anchors have different benefits. A Danforth is supposed to be good in 
sand and suck if there is shell, gravel or weed, for example. So I don't see 
that there is a WORST anchor. But my guess is that a Danforth is in the running 
for the title of LEAST RELIABLE anchor because it gets flipped out if your boat 
gets blown over the top of it by wind or current, and it doesn't want to reset. 
But it makes an good lunch hook if you are on the boat and awake.


Rick Brass
Washington, NC



-Original Message-
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Tirtirau via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 7:53 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Christian Tirtirau <christian_tirti...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll

I second Dave’s view on the 3rd generation anchors. CQR is in fact the worst 
anchor ever made, that’s why they had to be heavily oversized to work. Delta is 
a 2nd generation anchor, good but not great.
For such a critical piece of equipment the choice should be one of the 3rd gen 
anchors. Spade is the best anchor in the world, followed by Rocna and Mantus.
The Spade is also the most expensive anchor in the world, so for most sailors 
it’s a toss between the next two in line.
I have a Rocna 15 kg with 300 feet of 5/16 Acco chain and, consequently  I 
spend most of my time tending other people’s anchors and boats rather than 
mine. All that tackle is handled by me with the help of an electric Maxwell 
windlass.

Chris
C 37 Northern Light
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Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll

[Christian Tirtirau via CnC-List]

I second Dave’s view on the 3rd generation anchors. CQR is in fact the worst 
anchor ever made, that’s why they had to be heavily oversized to work. Delta is 
a 2nd generation anchor, good but not great.
For such a critical piece of equipment the choice should be one of the 3rd gen 
anchors. Spade is the best anchor in the world, followed by Rocna and Mantus.
The Spade is also the most expensive anchor in the world, so for most sailors 
it’s a toss between the next two in line.
I have a Rocna 15 kg with 300 feet of 5/16 Acco chain and, consequently  I 
spend most of my time tending other people’s anchors and boats rather than 
mine. All that tackle is handled by me with the help of an electric Maxwell 
windlass.

Chris
C 37 Northern Light
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Re: Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll

[Dave S via CnC-List]

I would research so called "modern" anchors before building around a CQR.
Rocna, Manta, and I think, Delta is a pre-modern model but similar.
Supposedly performance is much better than the Bruce and plow.
I have a 10kg bruce with 50' heavy chain plus 150' rode, sail out of
whitby. Came with the boat, seems fine even if - theoretically anyway - at
the lower end of size for my 33-ii.   I think the big pile o' chain really
helps.  I don't have a good second anchor. Have considered plunking down
for a Rocna.
Though I have a small fortress as a lunch hook, I agree with Mike on the
danforth.  An awkward nuisance to stow, and really ineffective in some
conditions. the fortress has proven to be hard to set the few times I've
tried.

Dave


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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Greg

I have used a Delta Sure-set 35 exclusively for about 8 years. It has
worked well from the Thousand Islands to the Bahamas.  I have sat through
storms with gusts to 50 kts. and never drug.  I also carry a Bruce 45 and a
Danforth 35 but am strongly thinking of removing them from the boat.

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Oct 23, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Greg Swetka via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I am having a bow roller/stemhead fitting made for my C 35 mkll... I am
looking for advice an choosing the proper size and type of anchor to use.
My fabricator wants to know what I am going to use to properly size the
fabrication. I am leaning towards the Delta or a cqr/plow style of anchor.
I am in the Great Lakes, so most of my anchoring is in weeds, mud, clay and
some sand.
>
> Sent from my iPad
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[phorvati . via CnC-List]

It all depends how much you need a good night rest while at anchor.  Are
you a dock person, or do you rent morrings, or do you drop a hook?  My
fried with the same boat put a 35lbs CQR with 5/16" chain.  That boat is
not going anywhere.  But he doesn't have a windlass, so raising anchor is
not his favourite activity.
On Oct 23, 2016 12:08 PM, "Greg Swetka via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> I am having a bow roller/stemhead fitting made for my C 35 mkll... I am
> looking for advice an choosing the proper size and type of anchor to use.
> My fabricator wants to know what I am going to use to properly size the
> fabrication. I am leaning towards the Delta or a cqr/plow style of anchor.
> I am in the Great Lakes, so most of my anchoring is in weeds, mud, clay and
> some sand.
>
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Re: Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll

[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

Greg

I have used a Delta Sure-set 35 exclusively for about 8 years. It has worked 
well from the Thousand Islands to the Bahamas.  I have sat through storms with 
gusts to 50 kts. and never drug.  I also carry a Bruce 45 and a Danforth 35 but 
am strongly thinking of removing them from the boat.

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Oct 23, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Greg Swetka via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am having a bow roller/stemhead fitting made for my C 35 mkll... I am 
> looking for advice an choosing the proper size and type of anchor to use. My 
> fabricator wants to know what I am going to use to properly size the 
> fabrication. I am leaning towards the Delta or a cqr/plow style of anchor. I 
> am in the Great Lakes, so most of my anchoring is in weeds, mud, clay and 
> some sand. 
> 
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>>  1.  Butyl sealant (Gary Nylander)
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>>  3. Re:  Butyl sealant (Kevin Driscoll)
>>  4.  Slip Choice (robert)
>>  5. Re:  Slip Choice (Dennis C.)
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>> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:29:06 -0400
>> From: "Gary Nylander" 
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>> I know there have been many mentions of the best place to get the butyl we
>> use to bed deck fittings, toe rails and whatever. Of course, I have that on
>> my old hard drive which cratered... can anyone give me the best source?
>> 
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>> Thanks, Gary
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>> From: "Dennis C." 
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>> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape
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>> Dennis C.
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>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>>> I know there have been many mentions of the best place to get the butyl we
>>> use to bed deck fittings, toe rails and whatever. Of course, I have that on
>>> my old hard drive which cratered?.. can anyone give me the best source?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Gary
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>> From: Kevin Driscoll 
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>> What Dennis said. Don't bother with anything else. (I've tried others...)
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:35 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>>> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape
>>> 
>>> Dennis C.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I know there have been many mentions of the best place to get the butyl we
>>> use to bed deck fittings, toe rails and whatever. Of course, I have that on
>>> my old hard drive which cratered?.. can anyone give me the best source?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Gary
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> 
>>> This list is 

Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C 35 mkll

[Greg Swetka via CnC-List]

I am having a bow roller/stemhead fitting made for my C 35 mkll... I am 
looking for advice an choosing the proper size and type of anchor to use. My 
fabricator wants to know what I am going to use to properly size the 
fabrication. I am leaning towards the Delta or a cqr/plow style of anchor. I am 
in the Great Lakes, so most of my anchoring is in weeds, mud, clay and some 
sand. 

Sent from my iPad

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> Today's Topics:
> 
>   1.  Butyl sealant (Gary Nylander)
>   2. Re:  Butyl sealant (Dennis C.)
>   3. Re:  Butyl sealant (Kevin Driscoll)
>   4.  Slip Choice (robert)
>   5. Re:  Slip Choice (Dennis C.)
>   6. Re:  Slip Choice (Gary Russell)
>   7.  Possible bargain C (Chuck Gilchrest)
>   8. Re:  Slip Choice (Steve Thomas)
>   9.  Slip Choice (robert)
> 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:29:06 -0400
> From: "Gary Nylander" 
> To: 
> Subject: Stus-List Butyl sealant
> Message-ID: <01d22aff$d8d1a250$8a74e6f0$@atlanticbb.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> I know there have been many mentions of the best place to get the butyl we
> use to bed deck fittings, toe rails and whatever. Of course, I have that on
> my old hard drive which cratered... can anyone give me the best source?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks, Gary
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 13:35:02 -0500
> From: "Dennis C." 
> To: CnClist 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl sealant
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape
> 
> Dennis C.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
>> I know there have been many mentions of the best place to get the butyl we
>> use to bed deck fittings, toe rails and whatever. Of course, I have that on
>> my old hard drive which cratered?.. can anyone give me the best source?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, Gary
>> 
>> ___
>> 
>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you
>> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:
>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> 
>> All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
>> 
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> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 19:05:36 +
> From: Kevin Driscoll 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl sealant
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> 
> What Dennis said. Don't bother with anything else. (I've tried others...)
> 
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:35 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
>> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I know there have been many mentions of the best place to get the butyl we
>> use to bed deck fittings, toe rails and whatever. Of course, I have that on
>> my old hard drive which cratered?.. can anyone give me the best source?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, Gary
>> 
>> ___
>> 
>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you
>> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:
>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> 
>> All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
>> 
>> 
>> ___
>> 
>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you
>> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:
>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> 
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