Re: Stus-List Keel Bolt Washers

2019-01-17 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List


Hi Josh,

316L S/S is better than 316 for welding 
applications. The L (low carbon) helps prevent 
rust stains at the weld interface.


304 and even duplex S/S (2205, sometimes called 
18-8) will be fine for keelbolt washers if it is all that is available.


Cheers, Russ


At 08:09 AM 1/15/2019, you wrote:

Dan,Â

Mine came with SS washers.  You can most likely 
find them on McMaster-Carr or just make them out 
of SS sheet.  If I was making them I'd just cut 
them square.  You'll probably want no less than 
3/32".  There is nothing wrong with anything 
thicker.  You’ll find cutting SS is a 
challenge.  A machine shop can make these quick 
and easy.  When sourcing SS look for at least 316.  316L is even better.


You can make a backing plate with G-10 or FRP 
(also available on McMaster Carr).  I would use 
at least 1/4" and probably opt for 1/2".


It is quite frequent for owners to find that the 
"foundation" is not flat or square to the 
stud.  You can fix this by bedding the backing 
plates with thickened epoxy (Six10).  It is 
short sighted to allow the epoxy to bond the 
keel bolt in place.  Prevent this by using a 
FRP tube cut to act as a protective 
sleeve.  The sleeve should slide loose on the 
stud and tightly in the FPR backing 
plate.  Tighten the nut only enough to smoosh 
the leveling agent (thickened epoxy) out a 
little.  Let the epoxy cure and then torque the bolts as appropriate.


https://youtu.be/n6B0IPKQERc

https://www.mcmaster.com/standard-washers

https://www.mcmaster.com/fiberglass-hollow-rods

https://www.mcmaster.com/fiberglass


Josh Muckley
S/V Sea HawkÂ
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MDÂ



On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 9:58 AM Dan via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Hi All, I know  this has been discussed many 
times here but this is a quick and simple one.


I'm going to be torquing my keel bolts this 
spring and I've noticed that the washers/spacers 
under some of the nuts are coroding and need to 
be replaced. I'd like to change them out for Stainless Steel.


What do you guys have for keel bolt 
washers/spacers and how did you get them made?


Thanks!

Dan
Breakaweigh
C&C44
Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List Keel Bolt Washers

2019-01-15 Thread Dan via CnC-List
Thanks Everyone, I think I've got enough info to get it done. I have to
measure things and make decisions.
I'm definitely going with a bedded backing plate, and washer. Kind of
excited to get the bilge cleaned up to the level that it can take epoxy :)

Dan


On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 1:25 PM schiller via CnC-List 
wrote:

> For our old Redwing 35 (C&C 35-1), I had 300 Series Stainless backing
> plates made to replace the mild steel backing plates on her when we bought
> it.  I wish I could tell you how much they cost, but a friend that owns an
> aerospace machine company made them out of a scrap piece of stainless he
> had.  I had asked him to give me a quote to make them.  I still have one
> left over and could measure it if you need.
>
> Neil Schiller
> 1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
> Whitehall, Michigan
> WLYC
>
> On 1/15/2019 9:57 AM, Dan via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Hi All, I know  this has been discussed many times here but this is a
> quick and simple one.
>
> I'm going to be torquing my keel bolts this spring and I've noticed that
> the washers/spacers under some of the nuts are coroding and need to be
> replaced. I'd like to change them out for Stainless Steel.
>
> What do you guys have for keel bolt washers/spacers and how did you get
> them made?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C&C44
> Halifax, NS
>
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Re: Stus-List Keel Bolt Washers

2019-01-15 Thread schiller via CnC-List
For our old Redwing 35 (C&C 35-1), I had 300 Series Stainless backing 
plates made to replace the mild steel backing plates on her when we 
bought it.  I wish I could tell you how much they cost, but a friend 
that owns an aerospace machine company made them out of a scrap piece of 
stainless he had.  I had asked him to give me a quote to make them.  I 
still have one left over and could measure it if you need.


Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 1/15/2019 9:57 AM, Dan via CnC-List wrote:
Hi All, I know  this has been discussed many times here but this is a 
quick and simple one.


I'm going to be torquing my keel bolts this spring and I've noticed 
that the washers/spacers under some of the nuts are coroding and need 
to be replaced. I'd like to change them out for Stainless Steel.


What do you guys have for keel bolt washers/spacers and how did you 
get them made?


Thanks!

Dan
Breakaweigh
C&C44
Halifax, NS

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Re: Stus-List Keel Bolt Washers

2019-01-15 Thread Dan via CnC-List
Awesome, Thanks Rob, I'll check this out!

Dan

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 12:14 PM robert  wrote:

> Dan:
>
> Try a Fastenall outlet hereI know there is one in Dartmouth, been
> there for various things..maybe one in Halifax.
>
> Another alternative is to have Rod's Machine Shop in Burnside make you
> what you need.
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - #277
> Halifax, N.S.
>
> On 2019-01-15 10:57 a.m., Dan via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Hi All, I know  this has been discussed many times here but this is a
> quick and simple one.
>
> I'm going to be torquing my keel bolts this spring and I've noticed that
> the washers/spacers under some of the nuts are coroding and need to be
> replaced. I'd like to change them out for Stainless Steel.
>
> What do you guys have for keel bolt washers/spacers and how did you get
> them made?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C&C44
> Halifax, NS
>
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Re: Stus-List Keel Bolt Washers

2019-01-15 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Mine were made with 3/8” Barstock with hot rolled steel. I don’t know what they 
were thinking.

I made new ones with SS 3/8” Barstock around the same size.

You can buy  small pieces of barstock form McMaster and sawr  and drill them if 
you choose to go that route. Standard washers are kind of wimpy for the amount 
of torque that these support, unless they are properly bedded.

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PA

 

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Subject: Stus-List Keel Bolt Washers

 

Hi All, I know  this has been discussed many times here but this is a quick and 
simple one.

 

I'm going to be torquing my keel bolts this spring and I've noticed that the 
washers/spacers under some of the nuts are coroding and need to be replaced. 
I'd like to change them out for Stainless Steel.

 

What do you guys have for keel bolt washers/spacers and how did you get them 
made?

 

Thanks!

 

Dan

Breakaweigh

C&C44

Halifax, NS

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Stus-List Keel Bolt Washers

2019-01-15 Thread robert via CnC-List

Dan:

Try a Fastenall outlet hereI know there is one in Dartmouth, been 
there for various things..maybe one in Halifax.


Another alternative is to have Rod's Machine Shop in Burnside make you 
what you need.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 2019-01-15 10:57 a.m., Dan via CnC-List wrote:
Hi All, I know  this has been discussed many times here but this is a 
quick and simple one.


I'm going to be torquing my keel bolts this spring and I've noticed 
that the washers/spacers under some of the nuts are coroding and need 
to be replaced. I'd like to change them out for Stainless Steel.


What do you guys have for keel bolt washers/spacers and how did you 
get them made?


Thanks!

Dan
Breakaweigh
C&C44
Halifax, NS

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Re: Stus-List Keel Bolt Washers

2019-01-15 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Dan,

Mine came with SS washers.  You can most likely find them on McMaster-Carr
or just make them out of SS sheet.  If I was making them I'd just cut them
square.  You'll probably want no less than 3/32".  There is nothing wrong
with anything thicker.  You’ll find cutting SS is a challenge.  A machine
shop can make these quick and easy.  When sourcing SS look for at least
316.  316L is even better.

You can make a backing plate with G-10 or FRP (also available on McMaster
Carr).  I would use at least 1/4" and probably opt for 1/2".

It is quite frequent for owners to find that the "foundation" is not flat
or square to the stud.  You can fix this by bedding the backing plates with
thickened epoxy (Six10).  It is short sighted to allow the epoxy to bond
the keel bolt in place.  Prevent this by using a FRP tube cut to act as a
protective sleeve.  The sleeve should slide loose on the stud and tightly
in the FPR backing plate.  Tighten the nut only enough to smoosh the
leveling agent (thickened epoxy) out a little.  Let the epoxy cure and then
torque the bolts as appropriate.

https://youtu.be/n6B0IPKQERc

https://www.mcmaster.com/standard-washers

https://www.mcmaster.com/fiberglass-hollow-rods

https://www.mcmaster.com/fiberglass


Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 9:58 AM Dan via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Hi All, I know  this has been discussed many times here but this is a
> quick and simple one.
>
> I'm going to be torquing my keel bolts this spring and I've noticed that
> the washers/spacers under some of the nuts are coroding and need to be
> replaced. I'd like to change them out for Stainless Steel.
>
> What do you guys have for keel bolt washers/spacers and how did you get
> them made?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C&C44
> Halifax, NS
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
>
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Stus-List Keel Bolt Washers

2019-01-15 Thread Dan via CnC-List
Hi All, I know  this has been discussed many times here but this is a quick
and simple one.

I'm going to be torquing my keel bolts this spring and I've noticed that
the washers/spacers under some of the nuts are coroding and need to be
replaced. I'd like to change them out for Stainless Steel.

What do you guys have for keel bolt washers/spacers and how did you get
them made?

Thanks!

Dan
Breakaweigh
C&C44
Halifax, NS
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