Re: Stus-List Port replacement

[svpegasus38 via CnC-List]

Adam,The VHB tape is only what holds the port light in place. It is the Dow 
Corning that does the actual sealing. I am experimenting with installing my new 
port lights, on my LF39, only during the cool part of the day and keeping the 
plexiglass out of the Sun as much as possible. On my last boat, LF38, I 
installed them during the hottest part of the day, and after some time I found 
a couple of leaks. These were where I had less than a 1/4 inch gap for sealant. 
My thinking on this is that the plexiglass expands when hot. I figure it is 
better to squeeze the sealant than have the plexiglass pull away when in 
shrinks when cool. I also rough up the edges and anywhere the sealant will be, 
along with minimum 1/4 inch gap. I am replacing both side port lights 6ft long 
by 8 inches tall, and 3 hatch lenses. FWIW. 

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Rebecca Leah  LF39 
 Original message From: Adam Hayden via CnC-List 
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Stus-List Port replacement 


Hey all.  I am finally going to replace the ports in my C 36.  I know this 
has been discussed at length.  Just quickly will the 3M vhb tape work and does 
it seal as well.





Thanks 





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Re: Stus-List Port replacement

[Fred Hazzard via CnC-List]

Adam I just replaced a port light using VHB tape and am very pleased with
results.  The tape with the Dow silicon sealant are very secure and
waterproof.  Follow the good advise of our fellow listers and the project
will go well.

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C 44
Portland, Or

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Mike Brannon via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Adam, I have a 1978 C 36.  I replaced my ports with Bomar 2000 Series
> opening ports. I had to make the openings slightly larger but it worked
> well and I've not had any leaks since they were installed in2006.
>
> Mike Brannon
> Virginia Lee 93295. 1978 C 36 CB
> Virginia Beach, VA
>
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> wrote:
>
> Hey all.  I am finally going to replace the ports in my C 36.  I know
> this has been discussed at length.  Just quickly will the 3M vhb tape work
> and does it seal as well.
>
> Thanks
>
> Adam Hayden
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Re: Stus-List Port replacement

[Mike Brannon via CnC-List]

Adam, I have a 1978 C 36.  I replaced my ports with Bomar 2000 Series opening 
ports. I had to make the openings slightly larger but it worked well and 
I've not had any leaks since they were installed in2006.

Mike Brannon
Virginia Lee 93295. 1978 C 36 CB
Virginia Beach, VA

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> On Aug 13, 2017, at 08:53, Adam Hayden via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey all.  I am finally going to replace the ports in my C 36.  I know this 
> has been discussed at length.  Just quickly will the 3M vhb tape work and 
> does it seal as well.
> 
> Thanks 
> 
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Stus-List Port replacement

[Adam Hayden via CnC-List]

Hey all.  I am finally going to replace the ports in my C 36.  I know this 
has been discussed at length.  Just quickly will the 3M vhb tape work and does 
it seal as well.

Thanks

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Re: Stus-List Port replacement

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I took two pieces of Plexiglas (1" x 2") and stuck them together with 3M
4991 VHB tape.  No one could peel them apart without tools.

Gary

~~~_/)~~


On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 5:11 PM, billbruce--- via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> http://www.sailmagazine.com/diy/maintenance/replacing-fixed-portlights/
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   http://www.sailmagazine.com/diy/maintenance/replacing-fixed-portlights/
  
 


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Re: Stus-List Port replacement

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   Found a Sail Magazine article recommended 4991 for what it's worth. Perhaps they were looking for the extra material thickness of the 4991.
   
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Re: Stus-List Port replacement

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

The problem with 4941 is the thickness at 0.045", which is one half the
thickness of 4991.  It won't deal with surface irregularities as well.

Gary

~~~_/)~~


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cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> FWIW, I contacted 3M after this discussion started, and the rep
> recommended 4941 for this application.
>
> *From:* svpegasus38 via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 01, 2017 2:49 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* svpegasus38 <svpegasu...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Port replacement
>
> I used the 4991 because it was thicker than others. Allows better
> expansion of the port lights.
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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> POYC
> Pegasus
> Lf38
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>  Original message 
> From: billbruce--- via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Date: 4/1/17 06:27 (GMT-08:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: billbr...@ns.sympatico.ca
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Port replacement
>
> What kind of 3m tape is it?
>
> Bill Bruce
> Landfall 38
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Re: Stus-List Port replacement

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

FWIW, I contacted 3M after this discussion started, and the rep recommended 
4941 for this application. 

From: svpegasus38 via CnC-List 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Port replacement

I used the 4991 because it was thicker than others. Allows better expansion of 
the port lights. 



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From: billbruce--- via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Date: 4/1/17 06:27 (GMT-08:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: billbr...@ns.sympatico.ca 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Port replacement 

What kind of 3m tape is it? 

Bill Bruce 
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Re: Stus-List Port replacement

[svpegasus38 via CnC-List]

I used the 4991 because it was thicker than others. Allows better expansion of 
the port lights. 


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cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: billbr...@ns.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Port 
replacement 

 
  
   What kind of 3m tape is it?
   

   
Bill Bruce
   
Landfall 38
  
 
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Re: Stus-List Port replacement

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

I did it last winter, so it has been 1 year.
Gary

~~~_/)~~


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> Looks interesting, how well has it been standing up?
>
> Bill Bruce
> Landfall 38
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   Looks interesting, how well has it been standing up?
   
  
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   Landfall 38
  
 


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Re: Stus-List Port replacement

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

I used VHB 4991 (0.091" thick)  which seemed to work fine, but another
lister suggested a different VHB tape (above) which seemed to makes sense.
See results here

.

Gary
S/V Kaylarah

~~~_/)~~


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> What kind of 3m tape is it?
>
> Bill Bruce
> Landfall 38
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Re: Stus-List Port replacement

[billbruce--- via CnC-List]

 
  
   What kind of 3m tape is it?
   
   Bill Bruce
   Landfall 38
  
 


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Re: Stus-List Port replacement

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

My "trick" was to attach a couple of small wooden blocks to the getcoat
below the window location and another at the end of the window with regular
double sided tape, to locate the window.  Then I applied the VHB tape to
the cabin top.  I aligned the window against the blocks and pushed it into
place.  Then I remove the blocks.  Worked perfectly.

Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA

~~~_/)~~


On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Dreuge via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Yes, as they say you get one shot with VHB tape in putting the ports in
> place.  But this is super easy (and probably better) to do by yourself.
>
> Like any thing else, the trick is preparation.  Before removing the outer
> film on the VHB,  align the port where you want it.  Then take some wide
> masking tape and tape the port in place with two long strips.  Run the tape
> vertically from the middle of the port up into the cabin top, but have the
> strips located along the ports at about 1/3 from each end.   The tape acts
> like top hinges. Take the time to tweak the final placement, and when
> ready, swing the port up, remove film from tape, slowly swing it down and
> press. Works like a charm.  I did all 4 of my fixed ports this way.
>
> Here is my write up on installing my new fixed ports:
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/NewPorts
>
>
> -
> Paul E.
> 1981 C 38 Landfall
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Carrabelle, FL
>
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[Dreuge via CnC-List]

Yes, as they say you get one shot with VHB tape in putting the ports in place.  
But this is super easy (and probably better) to do by yourself.  

Like any thing else, the trick is preparation.  Before removing the outer film 
on the VHB,  align the port where you want it.  Then take some wide masking 
tape and tape the port in place with two long strips.  Run the tape vertically 
from the middle of the port up into the cabin top, but have the strips located 
along the ports at about 1/3 from each end.   The tape acts like top hinges. 
Take the time to tweak the final placement, and when ready, swing the port up, 
remove film from tape, slowly swing it down and press. Works like a charm.  I 
did all 4 of my fixed ports this way.

Here is my write up on installing my new fixed ports:   
http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/NewPorts


-
Paul E.
1981 C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

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Re: Stus-List Port replacement

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Not I.  Silicones are one of the few sealants compatible with acrylics.
Silicone can be removed from gelcoat with silicone remover.

Gary

~~~_/)~~


On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I thought we hate silicones on gelcoat.
>
> *From:* Gary Russell via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:53 PM
> *To:* C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Cc:* Gary Russell <captnga...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Port replacement
>
> 3M4200 (and other eurethanes) is not compatible with acrylic windows.  Dow
> Corning 795 cures more slowly than other silicones and allows for trowling
> out more smoothly.
>
> Gary
> S/V Kaylarah
> '90 C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>
> ~~~_/)~~
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Okay, so why did everybody settle on Dow 795 (instead of 3M 4200 or some
>> other sealing adhesive)?
>>
>> *From:* Fred Hazzard via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:30 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Fred Hazzard <fshazz...@gmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Port replacement
>>
>> When we get more than 2 days without rain I am going to replace the
>> starboard cabin port.
>>
>> Question.  When I replaced the window about 8 years ago I use Sikaflex
>> 295 and their primer.  Now I am going to use 3 M tape and Dow 795. I am
>> looking for suggestions on how to remove the Sika products.
>>
>> Fred Hazzard
>> S/V Fury
>> C 44
>> Portland, Or
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Re: Stus-List Port replacement

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I thought we hate silicones on gelcoat.

From: Gary Russell via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:53 PM
To: C List 
Cc: Gary Russell 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Port replacement

3M4200 (and other eurethanes) is not compatible with acrylic windows.  Dow 
Corning 795 cures more slowly than other silicones and allows for trowling out 
more smoothly. 

Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA


~~~_/)~~



On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

  Okay, so why did everybody settle on Dow 795 (instead of 3M 4200 or some 
other sealing adhesive)?

  From: Fred Hazzard via CnC-List 
  Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:30 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Fred Hazzard 
  Subject: Stus-List Port replacement

  When we get more than 2 days without rain I am going to replace the starboard 
cabin port.  

  Question.  When I replaced the window about 8 years ago I use Sikaflex 295 
and their primer.  Now I am going to use 3 M tape and Dow 795. I am looking for 
suggestions on how to remove the Sika products.

  Fred Hazzard
  S/V Fury
  C 44
  Portland, Or

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[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

3M4200 (and other eurethanes) is not compatible with acrylic windows.  Dow
Corning 795 cures more slowly than other silicones and allows for trowling
out more smoothly.

Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA

~~~_/)~~


On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Okay, so why did everybody settle on Dow 795 (instead of 3M 4200 or some
> other sealing adhesive)?
>
> *From:* Fred Hazzard via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:30 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Fred Hazzard <fshazz...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Stus-List Port replacement
>
> When we get more than 2 days without rain I am going to replace the
> starboard cabin port.
>
> Question.  When I replaced the window about 8 years ago I use Sikaflex 295
> and their primer.  Now I am going to use 3 M tape and Dow 795. I am looking
> for suggestions on how to remove the Sika products.
>
> Fred Hazzard
> S/V Fury
> C 44
> Portland, Or
>
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Re: Stus-List Port replacement

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Okay, so why did everybody settle on Dow 795 (instead of 3M 4200 or some other 
sealing adhesive)?

From: Fred Hazzard via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:30 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Fred Hazzard 
Subject: Stus-List Port replacement

When we get more than 2 days without rain I am going to replace the starboard 
cabin port.  

Question.  When I replaced the window about 8 years ago I use Sikaflex 295 and 
their primer.  Now I am going to use 3 M tape and Dow 795. I am looking for 
suggestions on how to remove the Sika products.

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C 44
Portland, Or



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Re: Stus-List Port replacement

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When I did mine (same scenario) i used a wire tooth brush and a couple of red 
scotch brite pads in my cordless drill. In the corners just the scotch brite 
with thumb pressure. Fill in low spots, and sand smooth. Wipe everything down 
with acetone. It helps to have spacers and a second pair of hands when 
installing the Windows. Lay spacers on bottom edge of cutout and roll window 
into place. The tape grabs instantaneously, so you get one shot at it. Once in 
place press window against tape for a good bond. Tape edges and seal. I also 
rounded the hidden edges for a better deal with the DC 495. Good luck. Only 
took 4 tries to figure out how to do it. 


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cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Fred Hazzard <fshazz...@gmail.com> Subject: Stus-List 
Port replacement 
When we get more than 2 days without rain I am going to replace the starboard 
cabin port.  
Question.  When I replaced the window about 8 years ago I use Sikaflex 295 and 
their primer.  Now I am going to use 3 M tape and Dow 795. I am looking for 
suggestions on how to remove the Sika products.
Fred HazzardS/V FuryC 44Portland, Or
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Re: Stus-List Port replacement

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Try this:
http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|10918|2303284=567743

Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C 37+
east Greenwich, RI, USA

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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:30 PM, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> When we get more than 2 days without rain I am going to replace the
> starboard cabin port.
>
> Question.  When I replaced the window about 8 years ago I use Sikaflex 295
> and their primer.  Now I am going to use 3 M tape and Dow 795. I am looking
> for suggestions on how to remove the Sika products.
>
> Fred Hazzard
> S/V Fury
> C 44
> Portland, Or
>
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Stus-List Port replacement

[Fred Hazzard via CnC-List]

When we get more than 2 days without rain I am going to replace the
starboard cabin port.

Question.  When I replaced the window about 8 years ago I use Sikaflex 295
and their primer.  Now I am going to use 3 M tape and Dow 795. I am looking
for suggestions on how to remove the Sika products.

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C 44
Portland, Or
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Re: Stus-List port replacement on 29Mk1

[Martin DeYoung]

I recently purchased a Lewmar Standard Portlight roughly that size (Lewmar size 
#1).  I am about 1/2 way through installing it and am pleased with the fit and 
finish.  I used Lewmar's web site's excellent dimensional and installation 
information to make sure it would fit in the same place.

I bought it through West Marine after searching the interweb for suppliers.  WM 
was offering 10% off and free shipping that week.

The Lewmar portlight is replacing a very old Fuller Brush white plastic 
portlight that may have served well when new but after years of racing abuse it 
allowed water into the core.  The leak was between the molded portlight pieces 
and not readily apparent.

Martin
Calypso
1970 CC 43
Seattle

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
dre...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 7:01 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List port replacement on 29Mk1

Dear List,


I am looking to replace the small portlight  in the aft end of the pilot birth 
on a 29mk1.  It looks to be  6x13 in size.  The current portlight has an 
protruding lip, and since the portlight external is in the cockpit, this lip 
has been stepped-on, broken, epoxied, and globbed to death.

Are there any recommendations on which brand and model portlight one should use 
for a more flush-fitting functional access.


Thanks for any advise.

Paul


-
Paul E.
1979 CC 29 Mk1
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL


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Re: Stus-List port replacement on 29Mk1

[Frederick G Street]

Amazingly, the Fuller ports are still available:

http://www.fuller.com/marine

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Mar 1, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Martin DeYoung mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com wrote:

 The Lewmar portlight is replacing a very old Fuller Brush white plastic 
 portlight that may have served well when new but after years of racing abuse 
 it allowed water into the core.  The leak was between the molded portlight 
 pieces and not readily apparent.
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Re: Stus-List port replacement on 29Mk1

[Della Barba, Joe]

My original 1973 Fuller port is working as well as ever. I am not sure where 
water gets in between 

Joe Della Barba

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin 
DeYoung
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 4:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List port replacement on 29Mk1

I looked at the Fuller direct replacement but was spooked by the way water 
worked itself between the molded pieces.  The Lewmar also spiffed up the 
cockpit.  Maybe a newbie boarding the boat for the first time will think it is 
only 20 years old not 40+.

Martin
Calypso
1970 CC 43
Seattle

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 12:15 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List port replacement on 29Mk1

Amazingly, the Fuller ports are still available:

http://www.fuller.com/marine

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Mar 1, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Martin DeYoung 
mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.commailto:mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com wrote:

The Lewmar portlight is replacing a very old Fuller Brush white plastic 
portlight that may have served well when new but after years of racing abuse it 
allowed water into the core.  The leak was between the molded portlight pieces 
and not readily apparent.
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Re: Stus-List port replacement on 29Mk1

[Martin DeYoung]

It has been a few months since I removed the Fuller portlight but what I recall 
is the water seeped between the outer flange and the inner flange leading to 
the opening.  The original molded piece had been damaged by years of crew 
resting a knee or foot on the flange when working the cabin top winches.

When we bought the boat in 98 I looked the joint over and it appeared to be 
water tight.  What I found when I removed the portlight was rain/spray water 
worked its way between the inner and outer flanges.  The original Fuller 
portlight installer (not Bruckmann) did not seal the exposed balsa.  I became 
aware of the problem when water began leaking out of an interior screw hole 
near the bridge deck / vertical bulkhead intersection.

My guess is the water intrusion started 20 to 30 years ago.  By mid April I 
will have rebuilt the affected areas with West System epoxy, new balsa, and new 
glass layup. The boat may heel a little to starboard after this but my repairs 
will outlast the rest of the boat.

Martin
Calypso
1970 CC 43
Seattle

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, 
Joe
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 1:31 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List port replacement on 29Mk1

My original 1973 Fuller port is working as well as ever. I am not sure where 
water gets in between 

Joe Della Barba
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