Re: Stus-List Refinishing interior woodwork (not cabin sole)
I use ammonia (+TSP if there is a lot of grunge) as first steps of interior teak prep. Might take 6-7-8 applications to get the teak almost ready. Final prep I use 220 or 320 grit on a random orbital sander or sand by hand. I'm trying Minwax Valspar WATER based satin, semi-gloss and gloss to finish the interior of my new-to-me Cal-31. Very happy with the results so far. Avoid the non-waterbased Valspar. It's hard to work with. I used to have a C&C 33-1. (Irma snatched her.) --Bob M On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > I am about ready to start trying to repair some water-spotted, worn and > dried out wood in our 1994 C&C 37/40+. Does anyone know what type > of varnish, lacquer or other treatment was used originally by C&C to finish > the interior woodwork? I'm talking vertical surfaces, the nav table, etc., > and I'd really like to match the interior look it had when it came out of > the showroom so I don't have to refinish every square inch. > > What should I use to remove the existing coating (if I should remove it at > all), and what would you recommend for a new coating? > > I've used lemon oil before, but it seems to turn the wood dark over time. > > I'm thinking Danish Oil, but I really don't know enough to make an > informed decision. > > Thanks for the insights! > > Bruce Whitmore > (847) 404-5092 (mobile) > bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Refinishing interior woodwork (not cabin sole)
I think mine is the same as yours, almost as though they maybe used a rubbed oil finish, as you can feel the grain, and despite the wear, there are no chips where varnish has come off. It is teak, but very light colored. Thus the lack of clarity on my part as to what to do. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Alan Liles via CnC-List Date: 2/28/18 9:37 AM (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Alan Liles Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing interior woodwork (not cabin sole) My 1994 37/40+ has a light colored stain on the teak, I suppose, in an effort to lighten up the cabin. I, also, wonder what I would use to match the color. Al LilesSV Elendil Vancouver BC On Feb 27, 2018, at 3:26 PM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List wrote: Have for many years applied lemon oil to interior teak woodwork every spring. Use varnish for cabin sole every 5 years or so. Use Cetol for top of companionway steps every 3 years or so. All works just great with great results John and MaryannLegacy III1982 C&C 34Noank, CT From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:24 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing interior woodwork (not cabin sole) Bruce, if you're going to all that work, I would varnish. No oil is going to last and it leaves the veneer subject to water intrusion, which will stain the teak. First, I'd try to clean the old lemon oil off with alcohol, then sand with 180 grip paper, apply a sealer coat (I like Pettit Clear Sealer), allow that to dry, then apply a coat of Epiphanes Wood Finish Gloss (bring money) for it's durability and UV resisting properties, Then brush on a coat of Epiphanes Rubbed Effect varnish, which is a really forgiving finish that gives off a beautiful lustre.You can varnish over most teak oils.Peregrine was done that way before I got her and in the five years I had her the finish still looked terrific. The only maintenance was a wipe-down with vinegar and water every now and then. AndyFormerly: C&C 40Peregrine Now: Baltic 47Masquerade On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List wrote:Hello all, I am about ready to start trying to repair some water-spotted, worn and dried out wood in our 1994 C&C 37/40+. Does anyone know what type of varnish, lacquer or other treatment was used originally by C&C to finish the interior woodwork? I'm talking vertical surfaces, the nav table, etc., and I'd really like to match the interior look it had when it came out of the showroom so I don't have to refinish every square inch. What should I use to remove the existing coating (if I should remove it at all), and what would you recommend for a new coating? I've used lemon oil before, but it seems to turn the wood dark over time. I'm thinking Danish Oil, but I really don't know enough to make an informed decision. Thanks for the insights! Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Refinishing interior woodwork (not cabin sole)
My 1994 37/40+ has a light colored stain on the teak, I suppose, in an effort to lighten up the cabin. I, also, wonder what I would use to match the color. Al Liles SV Elendil Vancouver BC > On Feb 27, 2018, at 3:26 PM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List > wrote: > > Have for many years applied lemon oil to interior teak woodwork every spring. > Use varnish for cabin sole every 5 years or so. Use Cetol for top of > companionway steps every 3 years or so. All works just great with great > results > > John and Maryann > Legacy III > 1982 C&C 34 > Noank, CT > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew > Burton via CnC-List > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:24 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Andrew Burton > Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing interior woodwork (not cabin sole) > > Bruce, if you're going to all that work, I would varnish. No oil is going to > last and it leaves the veneer subject to water intrusion, which will stain > the teak. > > First, I'd try to clean the old lemon oil off with alcohol, then sand with > 180 grip paper, apply a sealer coat (I like Pettit Clear Sealer), allow that > to dry, then apply a coat of Epiphanes Wood Finish Gloss (bring money) for > it's durability and UV resisting properties, Then brush on a coat of > Epiphanes Rubbed Effect varnish, which is a really forgiving finish that > gives off a beautiful lustre. > You can varnish over most teak oils. > Peregrine was done that way before I got her and in the five years I had her > the finish still looked terrific. The only maintenance was a wipe-down with > vinegar and water every now and then. > > Andy > Formerly: C&C 40 > Peregrine > > Now: Baltic 47 > Masquerade > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List > wrote: > Hello all, > > I am about ready to start trying to repair some water-spotted, worn and dried > out wood in our 1994 C&C 37/40+. Does anyone know what type of varnish, > lacquer or other treatment was used originally by C&C to finish the interior > woodwork? I'm talking vertical surfaces, the nav table, etc., and I'd really > like to match the interior look it had when it came out of the showroom so I > don't have to refinish every square inch. > > What should I use to remove the existing coating (if I should remove it at > all), and what would you recommend for a new coating? > > I've used lemon oil before, but it seems to turn the wood dark over time. > > I'm thinking Danish Oil, but I really don't know enough to make an informed > decision. > > Thanks for the insights! > > Bruce Whitmore > (847) 404-5092 (mobile) > bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > > > > > -- > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett Ave > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > phone +401 965 5260 > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Refinishing interior woodwork (not cabin sole)
Have for many years applied lemon oil to interior teak woodwork every spring. Use varnish for cabin sole every 5 years or so. Use Cetol for top of companionway steps every 3 years or so. All works just great with great results John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C&C 34 Noank, CT From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:24 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing interior woodwork (not cabin sole) Bruce, if you're going to all that work, I would varnish. No oil is going to last and it leaves the veneer subject to water intrusion, which will stain the teak. First, I'd try to clean the old lemon oil off with alcohol, then sand with 180 grip paper, apply a sealer coat (I like Pettit Clear Sealer), allow that to dry, then apply a coat of Epiphanes Wood Finish Gloss (bring money) for it's durability and UV resisting properties, Then brush on a coat of Epiphanes Rubbed Effect varnish, which is a really forgiving finish that gives off a beautiful lustre. You can varnish over most teak oils. Peregrine was done that way before I got her and in the five years I had her the finish still looked terrific. The only maintenance was a wipe-down with vinegar and water every now and then. Andy Formerly: C&C 40 Peregrine Now: Baltic 47 Masquerade On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List wrote: Hello all, I am about ready to start trying to repair some water-spotted, worn and dried out wood in our 1994 C&C 37/40+. Does anyone know what type of varnish, lacquer or other treatment was used originally by C&C to finish the interior woodwork? I'm talking vertical surfaces, the nav table, etc., and I'd really like to match the interior look it had when it came out of the showroom so I don't have to refinish every square inch. What should I use to remove the existing coating (if I should remove it at all), and what would you recommend for a new coating? I've used lemon oil before, but it seems to turn the wood dark over time. I'm thinking Danish Oil, but I really don't know enough to make an informed decision. Thanks for the insights! Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Refinishing interior woodwork (not cabin sole)
Bruce, I’ve cleaned mine with vinegar and applied Epifanes rubbed effect varnish. The rubbed effect does not have UV inhibitors. For areas exposed to sunlight, I apply clear varnish and a final coat of rubbed effect. Last year, I did my companionway ladder and sanded it first. The shade and color match. Regards, Ron Ron Ricci S/V Patriot C&C 37+ Bristol, RI <mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com> ron.ri...@1968.usna.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:03 AM To: C&C List Cc: Bruce Whitmore Subject: Stus-List Refinishing interior woodwork (not cabin sole) Hello all, I am about ready to start trying to repair some water-spotted, worn and dried out wood in our 1994 C&C 37/40+. Does anyone know what type of varnish, lacquer or other treatment was used originally by C&C to finish the interior woodwork? I'm talking vertical surfaces, the nav table, etc., and I'd really like to match the interior look it had when it came out of the showroom so I don't have to refinish every square inch. What should I use to remove the existing coating (if I should remove it at all), and what would you recommend for a new coating? I've used lemon oil before, but it seems to turn the wood dark over time. I'm thinking Danish Oil, but I really don't know enough to make an informed decision. Thanks for the insights! Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) <mailto:bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Refinishing interior woodwork (not cabin sole)
I should have been a little more clear - the lemon oil I used was on my previous 1977 C&C 27 MKIII, not this boat, so I don't have to clean that off. I was really hoping for something a little less intensive than varnishing the entire inside. I know, that's pure wishful thinking... :) Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinishing interior woodwork (not cabin sole) Bruce, if you're going to all that work, I would varnish. No oil is going to last and it leaves the veneer subject to water intrusion, which will stain the teak. First, I'd try to clean the old lemon oil off with alcohol, then sand with 180 grip paper, apply a sealer coat (I like Pettit Clear Sealer), allow that to dry, then apply a coat of Epiphanes Wood Finish Gloss (bring money) for it's durability and UV resisting properties, Then brush on a coat of Epiphanes Rubbed Effect varnish, which is a really forgiving finish that gives off a beautiful lustre.You can varnish over most teak oils.Peregrine was done that way before I got her and in the five years I had her the finish still looked terrific. The only maintenance was a wipe-down with vinegar and water every now and then. AndyFormerly: C&C 40Peregrine Now: Baltic 47Masquerade On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List wrote: Hello all, I am about ready to start trying to repair some water-spotted, worn and dried out wood in our 1994 C&C 37/40+. Does anyone know what type of varnish, lacquer or other treatment was used originally by C&C to finish the interior woodwork? I'm talking vertical surfaces, the nav table, etc., and I'd really like to match the interior look it had when it came out of the showroom so I don't have to refinish every square inch. What should I use to remove the existing coating (if I should remove it at all), and what would you recommend for a new coating? I've used lemon oil before, but it seems to turn the wood dark over time. I'm thinking Danish Oil, but I really don't know enough to make an informed decision. Thanks for the insights! Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net __ _ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/ stumurray -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Refinishing interior woodwork (not cabin sole)
Bruce, if you're going to all that work, I would varnish. No oil is going to last and it leaves the veneer subject to water intrusion, which will stain the teak. First, I'd try to clean the old lemon oil off with alcohol, then sand with 180 grip paper, apply a sealer coat (I like Pettit Clear Sealer), allow that to dry, then apply a coat of Epiphanes Wood Finish Gloss (bring money) for it's durability and UV resisting properties, Then brush on a coat of Epiphanes Rubbed Effect varnish, which is a really forgiving finish that gives off a beautiful lustre. You can varnish over most teak oils. Peregrine was done that way before I got her and in the five years I had her the finish still looked terrific. The only maintenance was a wipe-down with vinegar and water every now and then. Andy Formerly: C&C 40 Peregrine Now: Baltic 47 Masquerade On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > I am about ready to start trying to repair some water-spotted, worn and > dried out wood in our 1994 C&C 37/40+. Does anyone know what type > of varnish, lacquer or other treatment was used originally by C&C to finish > the interior woodwork? I'm talking vertical surfaces, the nav table, etc., > and I'd really like to match the interior look it had when it came out of > the showroom so I don't have to refinish every square inch. > > What should I use to remove the existing coating (if I should remove it at > all), and what would you recommend for a new coating? > > I've used lemon oil before, but it seems to turn the wood dark over time. > > I'm thinking Danish Oil, but I really don't know enough to make an > informed decision. > > Thanks for the insights! > > Bruce Whitmore > (847) 404-5092 (mobile) > bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > > -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List Refinishing interior woodwork (not cabin sole)
Hello all, I am about ready to start trying to repair some water-spotted, worn and dried out wood in our 1994 C&C 37/40+. Does anyone know what type of varnish, lacquer or other treatment was used originally by C&C to finish the interior woodwork? I'm talking vertical surfaces, the nav table, etc., and I'd really like to match the interior look it had when it came out of the showroom so I don't have to refinish every square inch. What should I use to remove the existing coating (if I should remove it at all), and what would you recommend for a new coating? I've used lemon oil before, but it seems to turn the wood dark over time. I'm thinking Danish Oil, but I really don't know enough to make an informed decision. Thanks for the insights! Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
