Re: Stus-List Spring Fever
Just worked at our Maryland boatyard for two days. The boatyard closed to owners for a month and finally reopened but only when the yard workers are not there. They allow owners in now, on weekends only. Everyone was competing for water and power but respectful, wearing masks, keeping distance, helping each other where possible, but staying apart. I saw this possibility a month ago, but the yard wouldn't ease their rule, even when other boatyards in the area remained open. I expect more relaxed conditions sooner than later if we act smart. Respect other's space by wearing a mask when near someone else. That won't be forever, just until things improve a little. Things are improving, but it's too soon to shake hands, litteraly. Act smart. Stay safe. I think some better guidelines for racing with crew will come out from smarter minds and I look forward to that. Maybe testing will become more common like flu shots did. Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Pasadena Md > On May 4, 2020 at 1:09 AM Russ & Melody via CnC-List > wrote: > > > > Hi Rod, > > Do you have a link for that Transport Canada notice? > > I can't find anything about it... seems kinda > odd though, being as small boats are typically a > provincial jurisdiction. Although there are a ton > of tiny bureaucrats jumping on this covid flu > thing to enhance their own importance. > > We had the RCMP at some boat ramps discouraging > people from going out to fish at the same time > the Chief Public Health officer, Dr. Bonnie > Henry, was telling people to get outside. > > Weird times indeed. It might be time to regain > some of our rights since the hospitals are empty > and not overwhelming them was the whole purpose of lockdown. > > Cheers, Russ > > > > At 03:36 PM 5/3/2020, you wrote: > >Thanks Neil hopefully they will allow groups of > >5 or less but they couple that with social > >distancing. Additionally Transport Canada > >currently says you can only have family you live > >with on the boat, regardless of the size of the > >boat. Hopefully that will change, last Friday > >you werenât allowed to work on your boat so that has changed. > > > >Rod > > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Spring Fever
Here it is Russ, https://www.tc.gc.ca/documents/2019-2020-AA-36-COVID-19_SOCIAL_DISTANCING_BOATERS_17x11_EN_V05_ACC.PDF The problem I have with the social distancing guidelines is that there is no provision for safety concerns or variations for the length of the vessel. As you are no doubt aware the safety requirements are based upon vessel length but with these guidelines there is no provision for the length of the vessel. So on a larger vessel, where you could maintain social or physical distancing and safely operate the vessel with a few crew the guidelines seem overly restrictive. Here the current limit for gatherings is 5 at the present time. The image of a canoe doesn’t do a lot for the credibility of this poster. I assume as these are guidelines only they are not legally binding and do not override safety considerations; however, it seems none of the sailing associations do anything to challenge these guidelines, they just accept them. Rod -Original Message- From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Russ & Melody via CnC-List Sent: May-04-20 2:10 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Russ & Melody Subject: Re: Stus-List Spring Fever Hi Rod, Do you have a link for that Transport Canada notice? I can't find anything about it... seems kinda odd though, being as small boats are typically a provincial jurisdiction. Although there are a ton of tiny bureaucrats jumping on this covid flu thing to enhance their own importance. We had the RCMP at some boat ramps discouraging people from going out to fish at the same time the Chief Public Health officer, Dr. Bonnie Henry, was telling people to get outside. Weird times indeed. It might be time to regain some of our rights since the hospitals are empty and not overwhelming them was the whole purpose of lockdown. Cheers, Russ At 03:36 PM 5/3/2020, you wrote: >Thanks Neil hopefully they will allow groups of >5 or less but they couple that with social distancing. Additionally >Transport Canada currently says you can only have family you live with >on the boat, regardless of the size of the boat. Hopefully that will >change, last Friday you weren’t allowed to work on your boat so that >has changed. > >Rod ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Spring Fever
Hi Rod, Do you have a link for that Transport Canada notice? I can't find anything about it... seems kinda odd though, being as small boats are typically a provincial jurisdiction. Although there are a ton of tiny bureaucrats jumping on this covid flu thing to enhance their own importance. We had the RCMP at some boat ramps discouraging people from going out to fish at the same time the Chief Public Health officer, Dr. Bonnie Henry, was telling people to get outside. Weird times indeed. It might be time to regain some of our rights since the hospitals are empty and not overwhelming them was the whole purpose of lockdown. Cheers, Russ At 03:36 PM 5/3/2020, you wrote: Thanks Neil hopefully they will allow groups of 5 or less but they couple that with social distancing. Additionally Transport Canada currently says you can only have family you live with on the boat, regardless of the size of the boat. Hopefully that will change, last Friday you werenât allowed to work on your boat so that has changed. Rod ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Spring Fever
Neil, According to the South Shore Yacht Club newsletter that came out this weekend, the Queen’s Cup is officially delayed to an undetermined date. South Shore has lots of issues this year, their break wall is all but ineffective due to the high water levels and they had extensive dock damage in a storm this winter. I know the Commodore is trying extremely hard to make the race happen, but there are a lot of hurdles to overcome. Jim Reinardy C 30-2 “Firewater” Milwaukee, WI Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: CnC-List on behalf of schiller via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 5:22:58 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: schiller Subject: Re: Stus-List Spring Fever Rod, We don't race Grace. It is just the wife and I, right now. As I understand it, Michigan only limits congregations of 10 or less so technically you would be able to race with a crew. It is just nice to have the normal spring routine to get the boat ready for launch. I have been monitoring whether the Queen's Cup or the Clipper Cup across the lake races are cancelled. So far they have not been. The Queen's Cup is late June and they will need to make a decision soon. Complicating things is that the high lake levels have created a lot of marina problems for fixed docks. Luckily we are in a marina with floating docks. Neil Schiller 1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace" Whitehall, Michigan WLYC On 5/3/2020 5:40 PM, Rod Stright via CnC-List wrote: Are you allowed to race and is it family only on the boat or do they allow you have a physically distanced crew, like maybe 3? From: CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> On Behalf Of schiller via CnC-List Sent: May-03-20 5:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: schiller <mailto:schil...@bloomingdalecom.net> Subject: Stus-List Spring Fever Well, we've broken containment and evaded house arrest up here in the great midwest. washed and polished the topsides today, VC-17 Thursday and we will have all the exterior work ready for launch. Still need to do some minor electrical upgrades to get things to my satisfaction, but I can do those on rainy days. Our marina is working to catch up on launching boats. His crew will work 7 days a week once boats are ready for launch. We haven't completely lifted the house arrests but once Queen Gretch allowed powerboat use the marinas decided that meant that they could launch boats. Both Friday and today while we were up there everybody seemed to be acting responsibly and giving space to others. The other good news we got last week was that UK Sails was able to finish our new Main and Jib while on lock down. They stayed open sewing masks and that alloweed them to complete some of the logged orders. Now all we have to do is arrange a clandestine meeting to take possession. We may be able to get in the water yet. Although high Great Lakes water levels may keep us from going anywhere except around our area. Neil Schiller 1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace" Whitehall, Michigan WLYC ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Spring Fever
Thanks Neil hopefully they will allow groups of 5 or less but they couple that with social distancing. Additionally Transport Canada currently says you can only have family you live with on the boat, regardless of the size of the boat. Hopefully that will change, last Friday you weren’t allowed to work on your boat so that has changed. Rod Sent from my iPhone > On May 3, 2020, at 7:23 PM, schiller via CnC-List > wrote: > > Rod, > > We don't race Grace. It is just the wife and I, right now. As I understand > it, Michigan only limits congregations of 10 or less so technically you would > be able to race with a crew. > > It is just nice to have the normal spring routine to get the boat ready for > launch. > > I have been monitoring whether the Queen's Cup or the Clipper Cup across the > lake races are cancelled. So far they have not been. The Queen's Cup is > late June and they will need to make a decision soon. Complicating things is > that the high lake levels have created a lot of marina problems for fixed > docks. Luckily we are in a marina with floating docks. > > Neil Schiller > 1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace" > Whitehall, Michigan > WLYC > > On 5/3/2020 5:40 PM, Rod Stright via CnC-List wrote: >> Are you allowed to race and is it family only on the boat or do they allow >> you have a physically distanced crew, like maybe 3? >> >> From: CnC-List On Behalf Of schiller via >> CnC-List >> Sent: May-03-20 5:35 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Cc: schiller >> Subject: Stus-List Spring Fever >> >> Well, we've broken containment and evaded house arrest up here in the great >> midwest. washed and polished the topsides today, VC-17 Thursday and we will >> have all the exterior work ready for launch. Still need to do some minor >> electrical upgrades to get things to my satisfaction, but I can do those on >> rainy days. Our marina is working to catch up on launching boats. His crew >> will work 7 days a week once boats are ready for launch. We haven't >> completely lifted the house arrests but once Queen Gretch allowed powerboat >> use the marinas decided that meant that they could launch boats. >> >> Both Friday and today while we were up there everybody seemed to be acting >> responsibly and giving space to others. >> >> The other good news we got last week was that UK Sails was able to finish >> our new Main and Jib while on lock down. They stayed open sewing masks and >> that alloweed them to complete some of the logged orders. Now all we have >> to do is arrange a clandestine meeting to take possession. >> >> We may be able to get in the water yet. Although high Great Lakes water >> levels may keep us from going anywhere except around our area. >> >> Neil Schiller >> 1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace" >> Whitehall, Michigan >> WLYC >> >> >> ___ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and >> every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use >> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Spring Fever
Rod, We don't race Grace. It is just the wife and I, right now. As I understand it, Michigan only limits congregations of 10 or less so technically you would be able to race with a crew. It is just nice to have the normal spring routine to get the boat ready for launch. I have been monitoring whether the Queen's Cup or the Clipper Cup across the lake races are cancelled. So far they have not been. The Queen's Cup is late June and they will need to make a decision soon. Complicating things is that the high lake levels have created a lot of marina problems for fixed docks. Luckily we are in a marina with floating docks. Neil Schiller 1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace" Whitehall, Michigan WLYC On 5/3/2020 5:40 PM, Rod Stright via CnC-List wrote: Are you allowed to race and is it family only on the boat or do they allow you have a physically distanced crew, like maybe 3? *From:*CnC-List *On Behalf Of *schiller via CnC-List *Sent:* May-03-20 5:35 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* schiller *Subject:* Stus-List Spring Fever Well, we've broken containment and evaded house arrest up here in the great midwest. washed and polished the topsides today, VC-17 Thursday and we will have all the exterior work ready for launch. Still need to do some minor electrical upgrades to get things to my satisfaction, but I can do those on rainy days. Our marina is working to catch up on launching boats. His crew will work 7 days a week once boats are ready for launch. We haven't completely lifted the house arrests but once Queen Gretch allowed powerboat use the marinas decided that meant that they could launch boats. Both Friday and today while we were up there everybody seemed to be acting responsibly and giving space to others. The other good news we got last week was that UK Sails was able to finish our new Main and Jib while on lock down. They stayed open sewing masks and that alloweed them to complete some of the logged orders. Now all we have to do is arrange a clandestine meeting to take possession. We may be able to get in the water yet. Although high Great Lakes water levels may keep us from going anywhere except around our area. Neil Schiller 1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace" Whitehall, Michigan WLYC ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Spring Fever
Are you allowed to race and is it family only on the boat or do they allow you have a physically distanced crew, like maybe 3? From: CnC-List On Behalf Of schiller via CnC-List Sent: May-03-20 5:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: schiller Subject: Stus-List Spring Fever Well, we've broken containment and evaded house arrest up here in the great midwest. washed and polished the topsides today, VC-17 Thursday and we will have all the exterior work ready for launch. Still need to do some minor electrical upgrades to get things to my satisfaction, but I can do those on rainy days. Our marina is working to catch up on launching boats. His crew will work 7 days a week once boats are ready for launch. We haven't completely lifted the house arrests but once Queen Gretch allowed powerboat use the marinas decided that meant that they could launch boats. Both Friday and today while we were up there everybody seemed to be acting responsibly and giving space to others. The other good news we got last week was that UK Sails was able to finish our new Main and Jib while on lock down. They stayed open sewing masks and that alloweed them to complete some of the logged orders. Now all we have to do is arrange a clandestine meeting to take possession. We may be able to get in the water yet. Although high Great Lakes water levels may keep us from going anywhere except around our area. Neil Schiller 1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace" Whitehall, Michigan WLYC ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List Spring Fever
Well, we've broken containment and evaded house arrest up here in the great midwest. washed and polished the topsides today, VC-17 Thursday and we will have all the exterior work ready for launch. Still need to do some minor electrical upgrades to get things to my satisfaction, but I can do those on rainy days. Our marina is working to catch up on launching boats. His crew will work 7 days a week once boats are ready for launch. We haven't completely lifted the house arrests but once Queen Gretch allowed powerboat use the marinas decided that meant that they could launch boats. Both Friday and today while we were up there everybody seemed to be acting responsibly and giving space to others. The other good news we got last week was that UK Sails was able to finish our new Main and Jib while on lock down. They stayed open sewing masks and that alloweed them to complete some of the logged orders. Now all we have to do is arrange a clandestine meeting to take possession. We may be able to get in the water yet. Although high Great Lakes water levels may keep us from going anywhere except around our area. Neil Schiller 1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace" Whitehall, Michigan WLYC ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
