Re: Stus-List ice or soda blasting
Fred, My boat ran about $1500 for removal of paint down to the gelcoat. The surface was “paint ready” after a good wipe down. Jake Jake Brodersen “Midnight Mistress” CC 35 Mk-III Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hazzard via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 11:43 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List ice or soda blasting I am looking for opinions on ice or soda blasting to remove multiple layers of bottom paint. I am also interested to find out what is the cost per foot being charged. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland, Or ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List ice or soda blasting
Switch to a high quality ablative bottom paint. Then you can take the residual paint off when you haul out every 3 years or so and have the bottom pressure washed. Rick Brass Imzadi CC 38 mk 2 la Belle Aurore CC 25 mk1 Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Brent Driedger via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 1:27 PM To: Fred Hazzard; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List ice or soda blasting I did the hull of my 27 with a random orbital sander six years ago. I came to the conclusion that when bad sailors die they go to a boatyard in hell to sand hulls for eternity. Any price to have someone do a soda job for you is cheap. This is possibly the worst job in boat ownership. Brent 27v Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am looking for opinions on ice or soda blasting to remove multiple layers of bottom paint. I am also interested to find out what is the cost per foot being charged. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland, Or ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List ice or soda blasting
I am looking for opinions on ice or soda blasting to remove multiple layers of bottom paint. I am also interested to find out what is the cost per foot being charged. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland, Or ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List ice or soda blasting
Fred, 3 years ago I paid 1700 for my 35 for labor and materials. I did not price shop - I used the guy with a shop where I was hauled. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am looking for opinions on ice or soda blasting to remove multiple layers of bottom paint. I am also interested to find out what is the cost per foot being charged. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland, Or ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List ice or soda blasting
Fred Rather than soda blasting buy a paint scraper and some blades and go out to your boat and scrape the old coatings off at the bow. Do a 1 sq ft section. Once you have completed one sq ft and then sanded that down to gel coat with 120 grit sandpaper only then go in to your office and call someone to soda or dry ice blast your boat. I think you will be much more encouraged to go the blasting route From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hazzard via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 12:43 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List ice or soda blasting I am looking for opinions on ice or soda blasting to remove multiple layers of bottom paint. I am also interested to find out what is the cost per foot being charged. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland, Or ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List ice or soda blasting
I did the hull of my 27 with a random orbital sander six years ago. I came to the conclusion that when bad sailors die they go to a boatyard in hell to sand hulls for eternity. Any price to have someone do a soda job for you is cheap. This is possibly the worst job in boat ownership. Brent 27v Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am looking for opinions on ice or soda blasting to remove multiple layers of bottom paint. I am also interested to find out what is the cost per foot being charged. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland, Or ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List ice or soda blasting
Sanding with a disc sander requires skill. If you're not careful you will tilt the sander and gouge or scallop the hull. Use at least a 6 sander and a soft pad. Maybe look to rent a rectangular DA sander made by Hutchins. The pad is about 12 x 3 inches. Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Brent Driedger via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I did the hull of my 27 with a random orbital sander six years ago. I came to the conclusion that when bad sailors die they go to a boatyard in hell to sand hulls for eternity. Any price to have someone do a soda job for you is cheap. This is possibly the worst job in boat ownership. Brent 27v Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am looking for opinions on ice or soda blasting to remove multiple layers of bottom paint. I am also interested to find out what is the cost per foot being charged. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland, Or ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List ice or soda blasting
Fred The contractor that 'dry ice blast' our boat in 2006 gave us a dealhe was trying to drum up business by demonstrating how quick and effective his process was. The regular price for our CC 32 was about $1,600 CDN.we got it done for half that total cost.a deal we could not refuse. There were multiple layers of Interlux paints plus some recent VC 17 over 22 years by the original owner. The dry ice blasting removed everything down to the white gelcoat in less than 5 hours including the keel and rudder. The antifouling paint that came offf the bottom fell to the ground like ground pepper. When he finished, I had a shop vacuum and had it cleaned up in about 15 minutes. The last time I scrapped the bottom of a boat was 1991.a friend's CC 33 MKII that were reading for a Marblehead race. That was last time I scrapped the bottom of a boat and it will remain the last time I ever scrap/sand anti fouling paint from a boat. Unfortunately for the contractor, his dry ice blasting process did not impress many club members...he got a few orders but I have not seen him back at the club. I do not understand why boat owners choose to pay similar prices or more to have their bottoms cleaned with all the hazards associated with scrapping/sanding when soda blasting and dry ice blasting is perfectly safe, quick and extremely effective. I would choose dry ice blasting over soda blasting because you don't have the mess left behind with soda blasting and it can be cheaper. Check this video as an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1V1RAVXFQg Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/24 12:42 PM, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List wrote: I am looking for opinions on ice or soda blasting to remove multiple layers of bottom paint. I am also interested to find out what is the cost per foot being charged. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland, Or ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List ice or soda blasting
These are the same guys that just had a conversion about still using 30 or 40 year old sails and when they change them (IF) will go to Bacon’s for a 20 year old sail.Sailors are cheap!!! sam :-) From: Robert Abbott via CnC-ListSent: Friday, October 24, 2014 6:49 PMTo: Fred Hazzard; cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: Robert AbbottSubject: Stus-List ice or soda blasting Fred The contractor that 'dry ice blast' our boat in 2006 gave us a dealhe was trying to drum up business by demonstrating how quick and effective his process was. The regular price for our CC 32 was about $1,600 CDN.we got it done for half that total cost.a deal we could not refuse. There were multiple layers of Interlux paints plus some recent VC 17 over 22 years by the original owner. The dry ice blasting removed everything down to the white gelcoat in less than 5 hours including the keel and rudder. The antifouling paint that came offf the bottom fell to the ground like ground pepper. When he finished, I had a shop vacuum and had it cleaned up in about 15 minutes. The last time I scrapped the bottom of a boat was 1991.a friend's CC 33 MKII that were reading for a Marblehead race. That was last time I scrapped the bottom of a boat and it will remain the last time I ever scrap/sand anti fouling paint from a boat. Unfortunately for the contractor, his dry ice blasting process did not impress many club members...he got a few orders but I have not seen him back at the club. I do not understand why boat owners choose to pay similar prices or more to have their bottoms cleaned with all the hazards associated with scrapping/sanding when soda blasting and dry ice blasting is perfectly safe, quick and extremely effective. I would choose dry ice blasting over soda blasting because you don't have the mess left behind with soda blasting and it can be cheaper. Check this video as an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1V1RAVXFQg Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/24 12:42 PM, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List wrote: I am looking for opinions on ice or soda blasting to remove multiple layers of bottom paint. I am also interested to find out what is the cost per foot being charged. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland, Or ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List ice or soda blasting
You should read some of the British sail mags.You'd be amazed what British sailors can do with sticky tape and binder twine - or maybe you wouldn't! sam :-) From: Robert Abbott via CnC-ListSent: Friday, October 24, 2014 6:49 PMTo: Fred Hazzard; cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: Robert AbbottSubject: Stus-List ice or soda blasting Fred The contractor that 'dry ice blast' our boat in 2006 gave us a dealhe was trying to drum up business by demonstrating how quick and effective his process was. The regular price for our CC 32 was about $1,600 CDN.we got it done for half that total cost.a deal we could not refuse. There were multiple layers of Interlux paints plus some recent VC 17 over 22 years by the original owner. The dry ice blasting removed everything down to the white gelcoat in less than 5 hours including the keel and rudder. The antifouling paint that came offf the bottom fell to the ground like ground pepper. When he finished, I had a shop vacuum and had it cleaned up in about 15 minutes. The last time I scrapped the bottom of a boat was 1991.a friend's CC 33 MKII that were reading for a Marblehead race. That was last time I scrapped the bottom of a boat and it will remain the last time I ever scrap/sand anti fouling paint from a boat. Unfortunately for the contractor, his dry ice blasting process did not impress many club members...he got a few orders but I have not seen him back at the club. I do not understand why boat owners choose to pay similar prices or more to have their bottoms cleaned with all the hazards associated with scrapping/sanding when soda blasting and dry ice blasting is perfectly safe, quick and extremely effective. I would choose dry ice blasting over soda blasting because you don't have the mess left behind with soda blasting and it can be cheaper. Check this video as an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1V1RAVXFQg Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/24 12:42 PM, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List wrote: I am looking for opinions on ice or soda blasting to remove multiple layers of bottom paint. I am also interested to find out what is the cost per foot being charged. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland, Or ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List ice or soda blasting
Just have to point out Bob's recent email explained in detail his experience and had a link to a video to try and help Fred. Sam, your recent comment adds nothing, and simply announces your personal frustration with the list. The list is off the ebola topic and still you're still criticizing? Just want to say, this isn't Fox News; opinion isn't news, it's just opinion. My personal opinion? Please keep comments positive, and just delete our emails if you don't like them. Thanks, Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 8:58:20 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List ice or soda blasting These are the same guys that just had a conversion about still using 30 or 40 year old sails and when they change them (IF) will go to Bacon’s for a 20 year old sail. Sailors are cheap!!! sam :-) From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 6:49 PM To: Fred Hazzard; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: Robert Abbott Subject: Stus-List ice or soda blasting Fred The contractor that 'dry ice blast' our boat in 2006 gave us a dealhe was trying to drum up business by demonstrating how quick and effective his process was. The regular price for our CC 32 was about $1,600 CDN.we got it done for half that total cost.a deal we could not refuse. There were multiple layers of Interlux paints plus some recent VC 17 over 22 years by the original owner. The dry ice blasting removed everything down to the white gelcoat in less than 5 hours including the keel and rudder. The antifouling paint that came offf the bottom fell to the ground like ground pepper. When he finished, I had a shop vacuum and had it cleaned up in about 15 minutes. The last time I scrapped the bottom of a boat was 1991.a friend's CC 33 MKII that were reading for a Marblehead race. That was last time I scrapped the bottom of a boat and it will remain the last time I ever scrap/sand anti fouling paint from a boat. Unfortunately for the contractor, his dry ice blasting process did not impress many club members...he got a few orders but I have not seen him back at the club. I do not understand why boat owners choose to pay similar prices or more to have their bottoms cleaned with all the hazards associated with scrapping/sanding when soda blasting and dry ice blasting is perfectly safe, quick and extremely effective. I would choose dry ice blasting over soda blasting because you don't have the mess left behind with soda blasting and it can be cheaper. Check this video as an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1V1RAVXFQg Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/24 12:42 PM, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List wrote: I am looking for opinions on ice or soda blasting to remove multiple layers of bottom paint. I am also interested to find out what is the cost per foot being charged. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland, Or ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com [Text File:ATT001.txt] ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List ice or soda blasting
Yeah, the only thing that is cheap on a sailboat is the owner! :) Steve - Original Message - From: Sam Salter via CnC-List To: CnC Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 8:58 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List ice or soda blasting These are the same guys that just had a conversion about still using 30 or 40 year old sails and when they change them (IF) will go to Bacon’s for a 20 year old sail.Sailors are cheap!!! sam :-) From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 6:49 PM To: Fred Hazzard; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: Robert Abbott Subject: Stus-List ice or soda blasting Fred The contractor that 'dry ice blast' our boat in 2006 gave us a dealhe was trying to drum up business by demonstrating how quick and effective his process was. The regular price for our CC 32 was about $1,600 CDN.we got it done for half that total cost.a deal we could not refuse. There were multiple layers of Interlux paints plus some recent VC 17 over 22 years by the original owner. The dry ice blasting removed everything down to the white gelcoat in less than 5 hours including the keel and rudder. The antifouling paint that came offf the bottom fell to the ground like ground pepper. When he finished, I had a shop vacuum and had it cleaned up in about 15 minutes. The last time I scrapped the bottom of a boat was 1991.a friend's CC 33 MKII that were reading for a Marblehead race. That was last time I scrapped the bottom of a boat and it will remain the last time I ever scrap/sand anti fouling paint from a boat. Unfortunately for the contractor, his dry ice blasting process did not impress many club members...he got a few orders but I have not seen him back at the club. I do not understand why boat owners choose to pay similar prices or more to have their bottoms cleaned with all the hazards associated with scrapping/sanding when soda blasting and dry ice blasting is perfectly safe, quick and extremely effective. I would choose dry ice blasting over soda blasting because you don't have the mess left behind with soda blasting and it can be cheaper. Check this video as an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1V1RAVXFQg Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/24 12:42 PM, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List wrote: I am looking for opinions on ice or soda blasting to remove multiple layers of bottom paint. I am also interested to find out what is the cost per foot being charged. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland, Or ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
