[CODE4LIB] JHU integration of PD works
Getting back to the subject of a previous thread, (and digesting some wonderful contributions by Karen, Alex, Jeremy and Ed C.) I dug around some links that Jonathan posted, and I think they're worth further discussion. The way that JHU has integrated Public Domain works into its catalog results with umlaut is brilliant and pragmatic; the new catalog (catalyst) interface based on Blacklight is a great improvement on the older Horizon version: https://catalyst.library.jhu.edu/catalog/bib_816990 Clearly, Jonathan has gone through the process of getting his library to think through the integration, and it seems to work. Has there been any opposition? What are the reasons that this sort of integration not more widespread? Are they technical or institutional? What can be done by producers of open access content to make this work better and easier? Are unified approaches being touted by vendors delivering something really different? Looking forward, I wonder whether the print-first, then enrich with digital strategy required by today's infrastructure and work flow will decline compared to a more Googlish web-first strategy. Eric Eric Hellman President, Gluejar, Inc. http://www.gluejar.com/ 41 Watchung Plaza #132, Montclair NJ 07042 e...@hellman.net http://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/ @gluejar
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.
Although I sat in the room and nodded a lot in Athens when we picked
and chose our conference options and signed the contract, I remember
very few details of it anymore.
I do remember when the UGA Conference Center representative left the
room for a minute that we all thought that the prices we were looking
at must be the daily rate, since we couldn't imagine the total costs
being that cheap (in fact, it *was* the total cost).
UGA could actually have handled a conference much more the size of a
modern C4L (the plenary session room seats ~350).
What the Georgia Center doesn't have is polish ('zazz!) and Athens
definitely fits Kyle's and Joe's profile of being less accessible
(although that also applies to Bloomington, Asheville and Corvallis).
While I certainly appreciated the venues in Portland, Providence and
Asheville, I wouldn't say that they had a tremendous impact on the
outcome of the conference (I don't, for example, remember the food at
any and *none* of the plenary rooms were as good as Athens). I do
remember the bars at Providence and Portland, though.
I'm not arguing for us returning to Athens, but don't think it's
completely unique (see: Corvallis). If this desire to offset
conference costs is really deep (and I think that reducing the
dependency on sponsorship *should* be a goal, honestly -- it's a lot
of work and very unpredictable), then I think there are definitely
opportunities. It's just a matter of scouting locations and figuring
out how to get the local population to get involved. I think this
would be easier if there was some kind of insurance policy in place so
that the host isn't completely on the hook for all of the costs if
things go pear shaped.
-Ross.
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Kyle Banerjee baner...@uoregon.edu wrote:
The third code4lib conference was hosted in Portland, and the venue was a
hotel. Costs were **much** higher in Portland, due mainly to the type of
venue (hotel) and Portland being a larger city. To keep the registration
fee at $125 (which I think it was, if memory serves me correctly), we
needed to get $40k worth of sponsorships, which was about 4x the amount of
either the previous two years. It was hectic and a bit nerve-wracking, but
we hustled and worked hard and brought in the necessary sponsorships
without the need to provide any special events - all of the sponsors we
willing to sponsor us based on the general sponsorship levels that we've
put out each year.
This is exactly what is going on in Seattle.
If we can attract $40K in sponsorships, the registration fee will be kept
low. But that gives people an idea of what is being dealt with in the
background as that works out to nearly $200 per attendee. Not trivial to do
in today's climate, but you can be sure everyone will try their best.
kyle
Re: [CODE4LIB] JHU integration of PD works
Quoting Eric Hellman e...@hellman.net: What are the reasons that this sort of integration not more widespread? Are they technical or institutional? What can be done by producers of open access content to make this work better and easier? Are unified approaches being touted by vendors delivering something really different? I've been struggling with this around the Open Library digital texts: how can we make them available to libraries through their catalogs? When I look at the install documentation for Umlaut [1](I was actually hoping to find a technical requirements list), it's obvious that it takes developer chops. We're not going to find that in a small, medium, or often even a large public library. It seems to me that this kind of feature will not be widely available until it is included in ILS software, since that's what most libraries have. Does this mean that we should be meeting with library vendors and chatting them up about this? Or showing it to librarians so they can ask their vendor for it? Is it ok for this open code to be absorbed into proprietary systems? kc [1] http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Umlaut_Installation Looking forward, I wonder whether the print-first, then enrich with digital strategy required by today's infrastructure and work flow will decline compared to a more Googlish web-first strategy. Eric Eric Hellman President, Gluejar, Inc. http://www.gluejar.com/ 41 Watchung Plaza #132, Montclair NJ 07042 e...@hellman.net http://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/ @gluejar -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.
In my experience accross countless conferences, not remembering the
food is usually a good thing.
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote:
Although I sat in the room and nodded a lot in Athens when we picked
and chose our conference options and signed the contract, I remember
very few details of it anymore.
I do remember when the UGA Conference Center representative left the
room for a minute that we all thought that the prices we were looking
at must be the daily rate, since we couldn't imagine the total costs
being that cheap (in fact, it *was* the total cost).
UGA could actually have handled a conference much more the size of a
modern C4L (the plenary session room seats ~350).
What the Georgia Center doesn't have is polish ('zazz!) and Athens
definitely fits Kyle's and Joe's profile of being less accessible
(although that also applies to Bloomington, Asheville and Corvallis).
While I certainly appreciated the venues in Portland, Providence and
Asheville, I wouldn't say that they had a tremendous impact on the
outcome of the conference (I don't, for example, remember the food at
any and *none* of the plenary rooms were as good as Athens). I do
remember the bars at Providence and Portland, though.
I'm not arguing for us returning to Athens, but don't think it's
completely unique (see: Corvallis). If this desire to offset
conference costs is really deep (and I think that reducing the
dependency on sponsorship *should* be a goal, honestly -- it's a lot
of work and very unpredictable), then I think there are definitely
opportunities. It's just a matter of scouting locations and figuring
out how to get the local population to get involved. I think this
would be easier if there was some kind of insurance policy in place so
that the host isn't completely on the hook for all of the costs if
things go pear shaped.
-Ross.
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Kyle Banerjee baner...@uoregon.edu wrote:
The third code4lib conference was hosted in Portland, and the venue was a
hotel. Costs were **much** higher in Portland, due mainly to the type of
venue (hotel) and Portland being a larger city. To keep the registration
fee at $125 (which I think it was, if memory serves me correctly), we
needed to get $40k worth of sponsorships, which was about 4x the amount of
either the previous two years. It was hectic and a bit nerve-wracking, but
we hustled and worked hard and brought in the necessary sponsorships
without the need to provide any special events - all of the sponsors we
willing to sponsor us based on the general sponsorship levels that we've
put out each year.
This is exactly what is going on in Seattle.
If we can attract $40K in sponsorships, the registration fee will be kept
low. But that gives people an idea of what is being dealt with in the
background as that works out to nearly $200 per attendee. Not trivial to do
in today's climate, but you can be sure everyone will try their best.
kyle
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Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company
http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.
I honestly don't think it's a disaster if registration fee approaches $200 either. (I realize you said $200 in _addition_ to the usual $125, I'm saying $200, heh). I think $200 is about the max that seems okay to me, but $200 does. That's still a good price for the conf, and still fairly affordable, and with inflation from the original $125 like five years ago not totally out of line even. $300 would be really unfortunate though. But $180? We'll live. On 6/14/2011 7:42 PM, Kyle Banerjee wrote: The third code4lib conference was hosted in Portland, and the venue was a hotel. Costs were **much** higher in Portland, due mainly to the type of venue (hotel) and Portland being a larger city. To keep the registration fee at $125 (which I think it was, if memory serves me correctly), we needed to get $40k worth of sponsorships, which was about 4x the amount of either the previous two years. It was hectic and a bit nerve-wracking, but we hustled and worked hard and brought in the necessary sponsorships without the need to provide any special events - all of the sponsors we willing to sponsor us based on the general sponsorship levels that we've put out each year. This is exactly what is going on in Seattle. If we can attract $40K in sponsorships, the registration fee will be kept low. But that gives people an idea of what is being dealt with in the background as that works out to nearly $200 per attendee. Not trivial to do in today's climate, but you can be sure everyone will try their best. kyle
Re: [CODE4LIB] JHU integration of PD works
On 6/15/2011 9:31 AM, Eric Hellman wrote: Clearly, Jonathan has gone through the process of getting his library to think through the integration, and it seems to work. Thank you! Has there been any opposition? Not opposition exactly, but it doesn't work perfectly, and people are unhappy when it doesn't work. It can sometimes find the _wrong_ match on a 'foreign' site like Amazon etc. Or avoid finding a right one of course. Or the definition of right/wrong can be not entirely clear too -- on a bib record for a video of an opera performed, is it right or wrong to supply a link to the print version of the opera? What if the software isn't smart enough to _tell_ you it's an alternate format (it's not), and the link is just in the single flat list of links? Also issues with avoiding duplicate double URLs when things are in bib records AND in SFX kb AND maybe looked for otherwise by Umlaut. (we have _some_ HathiTrust URLs in our bib records, that came that way from OCLC, who knew?) These things get really complicated, quickly. I am constantly finding time to do more tweaking, but it'll never be perfect, so people have to get used to lack of perfection. Still when I ask, okay, this HathiTrust/Amazon/Google linking feature is not going to be perfect, would you rather keep it with imperfections we may not be able to fix, or eliminate it -- nobody says eliminate. What are the reasons that this sort of integration not more widespread? Are they technical or institutional? What can be done by producers of open access content to make this work better and easier? Are unified approaches being touted by vendors delivering something really different? I think they are mostly technical. This stuff is _hard_, because of the (lack of) quality of our own metadata, the lack of quality of third party metadata, the lack of sufficient APIs and Services, and the lack of a local technical infrastructure to support tying everythign together. So on the one hand, I'm trying to find time for an overhaul of Umlaut to make it easier for people to install and maintain, and I'm hoping I can get some more adoption at that point. To at least provide some open source local technical infrastructure. Umlaut is intentionally designed to be as easy as possible to integrate with your existing catalog or other service points, as well as to provide 'just in time' services from third party external searches -- that's it's mission, this kind of just-in-time service. (easy as possible -- or as easy as I can make it, which sometimes still isn't easy enough, especially if you don't have local technical resources). But still, it's metadata, metadata, metadata. So what can producers of open access content do to make this work better and easier? 1) Have good metadata for their content, especially including as many identifiers as possible -- ISBN, OCLCnum, LCCN. Even if you aren't an OCLC member and don't have an OCLC record, if you can figure out what OCLC record represents this thing you've got, list it in the metadata. Even if the ISBN/OCLCnum/LCCN doesn't represent the _exact_ same thing, list it -- ideally somehow identified as 'an alternate manifestation'. Also have author, title, publisher, publication year metadata. If you can have author metadata as an NAF/VIAF controlled form or identifier, even better. Metadata is expensive, but metadata is valuable, the better it is, the better Umlaut's approach can work. Share the metadata publically, in case someone wants to do something with it. 2) Provide an API that allows lookup of your open access content, searching against the good metadata from #1. Including identifier searches. The thing is, each of (dozens, hundreds, thousands) of open access content providers having such an API --- it's a burdensome expense for each of them, but it's also unrealistic for client software to talk to dozens/hundreds/thousands of APIs. So this stuff needs to be aggregated in fewer major service points. It could be an aggregator of just metadata that links to content hosted on individual hosts, or it could be an aggregator of content itself. Either way, it needs a good API based on good metadata. Google doesn't work as such an aggregator, the APIs it has are too limited functionally and by ToS, and the results do not have sufficient metadata. Maybe the Internet Archive does -- although IA's API's and metadata are sometimes a bit sketchy (If you do put it in IA, make sure it somehow shows in the Open Library section and it's APIs -- the OL API's IA has are sufficient for Umlaut's use, but general Internet Archive APIs are not). Or maybe a new aggregator(s) have to be collectively created.
[CODE4LIB] Islandora Camp T-Shirt Design
Are you this year’s Islandora t-shirt designer? We are calling out to our community in our best open-source fashion, to see if anybody wants to participate in the design of the official 2011 Islandora Camp t-shirt. You can find a link to source files here: The winning design will use the Islandora Camp logo, and may optionally use our “yak.” Please submit vector artwork (.ai or .eps) to vresupp...@upei.ca. ! Please turn in all submissions by June 24, 2011. Full credit will be given to the person with the winning design at Islandora Camp.
[CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update
Hi Anj, Nice to see your name again after meeting briefly at UW when you were coming and I was leaving for Boston! I doubt I'll be able to attend the conference this year but I've put the word out to the group of Ex Libris and Endeavor alumni that I manage on LinkedIn. Many people now work for other library technology companies. Will let you know if anything useful comes back. Here's a copy of my promotional message, in case others on the list want to try their own networks. It might help our cause if someone could add a link about sponsorships to the conference section of the website. --- promotional blurb --- c4l -- code4lib is a unique conference that attracts a small but influential group of library technologists each year. Next year's conference is Feb 6-9, 2012 in Seattle, WA. They are still seeking vendor sponsorships -- great visibility with influential folks for a fraction of the cost of ALA! If you can help, please contact me privately through your preferred contact method here. http://code4lib.org/conferencehttp://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcode4lib%2Eorg%2Fconferenceurlhash=-Iyx_t=tracking_anet -- promotional blurb --- Susan Kane Harvard University OIS
[CODE4LIB] Islandora Camp T-Shirt Design *edit*
*** Sorry about the double post, but I forgot the link!*** Are you this year’s Islandora t-shirt designer? We are calling out to our community in our best open-source fashion, to see if anybody wants to participate in the design of the official 2011 Islandora Camp t-shirt. You can find a link to source files here: http://islandora.ca/icamptshirt. The winning design will use the Islandora Camp logo, and may optionally use our “yak.” Please submit vector artwork (.ai or .eps) to vresupp...@upei.ca. ! Please turn in all submissions by June 24, 2011. Full credit will be given to the person with the winning design at Islandora Camp.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.
So maybe part of the problem is our venue voting system -- people vote
for flashy locations, which are also expensive locations. The people
voting (which is anyone who wants to) don't neccesarily consider all the
ramifications (don't neccesarily have the experience/background to do so
even if they thought of it).
Heresy I know, but I wonder if we should change conf host/site selection
from an open vote, to a conf selection committee that chooses. Then the
committee could say to themselves you know, even though the hosts say
no problem keeping costs as usual, we don't think an expensive city like
that is the best thing for us. Of course, in addition to being
heretical, that would rely on there being some people who wanted to fill
that role, which there may not be.
On 6/15/2011 10:06 AM, Ross Singer wrote:
Although I sat in the room and nodded a lot in Athens when we picked
and chose our conference options and signed the contract, I remember
very few details of it anymore.
I do remember when the UGA Conference Center representative left the
room for a minute that we all thought that the prices we were looking
at must be the daily rate, since we couldn't imagine the total costs
being that cheap (in fact, it *was* the total cost).
UGA could actually have handled a conference much more the size of a
modern C4L (the plenary session room seats ~350).
What the Georgia Center doesn't have is polish ('zazz!) and Athens
definitely fits Kyle's and Joe's profile of being less accessible
(although that also applies to Bloomington, Asheville and Corvallis).
While I certainly appreciated the venues in Portland, Providence and
Asheville, I wouldn't say that they had a tremendous impact on the
outcome of the conference (I don't, for example, remember the food at
any and *none* of the plenary rooms were as good as Athens). I do
remember the bars at Providence and Portland, though.
I'm not arguing for us returning to Athens, but don't think it's
completely unique (see: Corvallis). If this desire to offset
conference costs is really deep (and I think that reducing the
dependency on sponsorship *should* be a goal, honestly -- it's a lot
of work and very unpredictable), then I think there are definitely
opportunities. It's just a matter of scouting locations and figuring
out how to get the local population to get involved. I think this
would be easier if there was some kind of insurance policy in place so
that the host isn't completely on the hook for all of the costs if
things go pear shaped.
-Ross.
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Kyle Banerjeebaner...@uoregon.edu wrote:
The third code4lib conference was hosted in Portland, and the venue was a
hotel. Costs were **much** higher in Portland, due mainly to the type of
venue (hotel) and Portland being a larger city. To keep the registration
fee at $125 (which I think it was, if memory serves me correctly), we
needed to get $40k worth of sponsorships, which was about 4x the amount of
either the previous two years. It was hectic and a bit nerve-wracking, but
we hustled and worked hard and brought in the necessary sponsorships
without the need to provide any special events - all of the sponsors we
willing to sponsor us based on the general sponsorship levels that we've
put out each year.
This is exactly what is going on in Seattle.
If we can attract $40K in sponsorships, the registration fee will be kept
low. But that gives people an idea of what is being dealt with in the
background as that works out to nearly $200 per attendee. Not trivial to do
in today's climate, but you can be sure everyone will try their best.
kyle
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update
On 6/15/2011 12:51 PM, Susan Kane wrote: great visibility with influential folks for a fraction of the cost of ALA! That's an interesting point too -- you pay for a booth at ALA ($), you DO reach a whole lot of people, but it's a lot more expensive than even our 'platinum' sponsorship, no? And we're talking about giving people really even more exposure potentially (a presentation to a captive audience at a banquet?) then you get from a booth at ALA (albeit many fewer people). Depending on the site, if there's room in the registration area for a couple other tables, we could also offer sponsors a conference-long table to sit at and hand out stuff, if they wanted it. I don't know if they'd want it or not. But that would be a benefit unlikely to upset anyone. probably.
Re: [CODE4LIB] JHU integration of PD works
On 6/15/2011 10:55 AM, Karen Coyle wrote: I've been struggling with this around the Open Library digital texts: how can we make them available to libraries through their catalogs? When I look at the install documentation for Umlaut [1](I was actually hoping to find a technical requirements list), it's obvious that it takes developer chops. This isn't neccesarily un-fixable. I have plans to make it easier -- it's totally possible to make it easier (largely because Rails, on which Umlaut is based, has gotten so much better at being easier to install/deploy things and have em Just Work), I just need to find time (that I'm having trouble finding) to make the changes. Eric, as well as Karen, also asked why no vendors seem interested in supplying a product like this -- may be a bit of a chicken and an egg, there may not be a market for it -- I have trouble explaining to people why Umlaut is actually really cool in the first place, even other libraries. Although these conversations help me learn new ways to talk/think about it. So, I can definitely make Umlaut easier to install and run -- but there are still going to be some technical craziness, involved with dealing with your local metadata in all it's local idiosyncracies, and dealing with matching it to 'remote' data in a way that meets local use cases. Like I said before, this is inherently imperfect, but that means that there are a bunch of choices to make about what imperfect trade-offs you want to make, and these inevitably have to do with the nature of your local (mostly cataloging) metadata, and the use cases you are supporting. Really, I'm not sure I have faith in our existing vendors to be able to do a good job with it -- this is a really complicated thing that Umlaut is trying to do, in the end. (from my experience; it didn't sound that complicated at first, but it ends up so. Trouble-shooting problems ends up being incredibly complex, because there are so many different systems involved, and a bug or bad metadata on any one can mess things up). So I guess what I'm saying is, if you're talking about Umlaut's approach -- it is a technically hard problem in our existing environment. (existing environment means our really bad local cataloging metadata, our multiple silo's of local metadata, and our pretty awful 'link resolver' products with poor API's, etc -- also the third party content host's poor metadata, lack of API's, etc. None of these things are changing anytime soon). So if you're talking about this approach in particular, when Erik asks is it technical or is political -- my experience with Umlaut definitely definitely says 'technical', not 'political'. I've gotten no opposition to what Umlaut's trying to do, once people understand it, only dissatisfaction with how well it does it (a technical issue). Jonathan
Re: [CODE4LIB] JHU integration of PD works
I think one thing that's often overlooked about the Umlaut and was a constant source of frustration for me, in the early days, which is now Jonathan's burden, is that the Umlaut was designed specifically for two purposes: 1) Reduce the extremely high percentage of failure in identifying known and locally (or consortially) available resources in the link resolver chain a) The main use case here was conference proceedings, but wound up being broadly applicable to all sorts of things in the library's collection, you know, like books. 2) Provide access to items not physically (or electronically) in the library's collection but have a freely available surrogate on the web (pre/post prints/digitized copies/illegal copy on person's web site crawled by Google/etc.). #1 has sort of a solution via services such as Summon and its ilk - if you have a fulltext index of everything your library owns or subscribes to, it makes it a lot easier to find things. Having them all in the same bucket simplifies this even more. This, in my mind, isn't a great approach, but it at least can address that particular problem. #2, however, has been largely ignored. While you might get centralized repositories like HathiTrust, arxiv.org or Citeseer in a system like Summon or EDS (although I don't actually see the latter two listed in their sources lists), Google Scholar shows just how much literature is available outside of any controlled silo. The fact that libraries have, so far, completely ignored this freely available content (and let's face it, the fact that not all of it *should* be freely available is neither here nor there - if it's the article you need and it's found via simple Google-ing, it's game) and have constrained the discovery/delivery process to the tiny percentage of the universe that they own or lease is mind blowing and completely antithetical to what libraries are supposedly about. Karen, you're right - the Umlaut is not going to be viable most libraries (case in point: Georgia Tech, an ARL library, didn't feel that they could maintain it after I left and shut it down), but that was never its intention. The point of the Umlaut was not for hundreds or thousands of libraries to run Umlauts, but to show that a single person, toiling in the basement of a single library (originally in Georgia, now in Maryland) with a single application can solve all of these problems that our vendors are apparently unwilling or unable to do. The simplest parts of the Umlaut could be automated, the harder bits could be abstracted a bit and crowdsourced. I'm not aware of any part of Umlaut (besides it's x-identifier stuff) that has trickled back into a vendor product. I don't know of any library project, commercial or otherwise, that is using Google, Yahoo! or Bing (and, granted, neither is Umlaut anymore). The stuff the Umlaut does isn't hard, but it requires somebody to *care* and be dedicated enough when things change or break to tweak things as necessary. The fact that libraries find this to be *too much work* is just absolutely demoralizing to me. -Ross. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: On 6/15/2011 9:31 AM, Eric Hellman wrote: Clearly, Jonathan has gone through the process of getting his library to think through the integration, and it seems to work. Thank you! Has there been any opposition? Not opposition exactly, but it doesn't work perfectly, and people are unhappy when it doesn't work. It can sometimes find the _wrong_ match on a 'foreign' site like Amazon etc. Or avoid finding a right one of course. Or the definition of right/wrong can be not entirely clear too -- on a bib record for a video of an opera performed, is it right or wrong to supply a link to the print version of the opera? What if the software isn't smart enough to _tell_ you it's an alternate format (it's not), and the link is just in the single flat list of links? Also issues with avoiding duplicate double URLs when things are in bib records AND in SFX kb AND maybe looked for otherwise by Umlaut. (we have _some_ HathiTrust URLs in our bib records, that came that way from OCLC, who knew?) These things get really complicated, quickly. I am constantly finding time to do more tweaking, but it'll never be perfect, so people have to get used to lack of perfection. Still when I ask, okay, this HathiTrust/Amazon/Google linking feature is not going to be perfect, would you rather keep it with imperfections we may not be able to fix, or eliminate it -- nobody says eliminate. What are the reasons that this sort of integration not more widespread? Are they technical or institutional? What can be done by producers of open access content to make this work better and easier? Are unified approaches being touted by vendors delivering something really different? I think they are mostly technical. This stuff is _hard_, because of the (lack of) quality of our own metadata, the lack
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: Heresy I know, but I wonder if we should change conf host/site selection from an open vote, to a conf selection committee that chooses. Then the committee could say to themselves you know, even though the hosts say no problem keeping costs as usual, we don't think an expensive city like that is the best thing for us. Of course, in addition to being heretical, that would rely on there being some people who wanted to fill that role, which there may not be. What is the problem we're trying to solve again? Do we think that the recent conferences have cost too much for the attendees? That this year's will cost too much? Are we worried about not finding places to host in the future? Are we worried about needing the level of sponsorship that we currently do? This seems, to me, like a solution in search of a problem. If we've trying to address the conference's relationship with its sponsors, Jaf's suggestion (e.g., define our expectations and see what happens) seems like a reasonable first step to me. Kevin
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.
Honestly, I'm the most concerned that there was only one proposal last year. Let's try to solve that problem. -Sean On 6/15/11 1:46 PM, Kevin S. Clarke kscla...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: Heresy I know, but I wonder if we should change conf host/site selection from an open vote, to a conf selection committee that chooses. Then the committee could say to themselves you know, even though the hosts say no problem keeping costs as usual, we don't think an expensive city like that is the best thing for us. Of course, in addition to being heretical, that would rely on there being some people who wanted to fill that role, which there may not be. What is the problem we're trying to solve again? Do we think that the recent conferences have cost too much for the attendees? That this year's will cost too much? Are we worried about not finding places to host in the future? Are we worried about needing the level of sponsorship that we currently do? This seems, to me, like a solution in search of a problem. If we've trying to address the conference's relationship with its sponsors, Jaf's suggestion (e.g., define our expectations and see what happens) seems like a reasonable first step to me. Kevin
Re: [CODE4LIB] JHU integration of PD works
On Jun 15, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Ross Singer wrote: The fact that libraries have, so far, completely ignored this freely available content (and let's face it, the fact that not all of it *should* be freely available is neither here nor there - if it's the article you need and it's found via simple Google-ing, it's game) and have constrained the discovery/delivery process to the tiny percentage of the universe that they own or lease is mind blowing and completely antithetical to what libraries are supposedly about. YES!!! I can not agree with Ross any more strongly! The library profession has all but shot itself in the foot because it continues to spend so much time and energy on purchased/licensed content. Our supposed knowledge of our clientele coupled with freely available full text content could make our collections so much more useful and relevant. Instead, we continue to license our rights away, buy back the stuff we've already paid someone to create, and in the end have very little to show for it. Grrr... -- Eric Lease Morgan University of Notre Dame
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.
On 6/15/2011 1:46 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: What is the problem we're trying to solve again? Do we think that the recent conferences have cost too much for the attendees? That this year's will cost too much? Are we worried about not finding places to host in the future? Are we worried about needing the level of sponsorship that we currently do? I guess I'm worried that conferences have become more expensive and more work to put on. This means: a) It's harder to find people to host, and harder for them to do it in a way that makes the community happy, and that doesn't destroy themselves. b) They need to find a lot more sponsorship, which is risky, and potentially means giving sponsors privileges that change the nature or feel of the conf. This thread began with a suggestion from current conf hosts that they need to find more things to give sponsors. Which reminded me of last year's sponsored banquet, which ended up not having a presentation from the vendor, but which was supposed to, which I would not have liked, having a sponsor deliver a presentation to a captive conf audience in return for sponsorship.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Sean Hannan shan...@jhu.edu wrote: Honestly, I'm the most concerned that there was only one proposal last year. Let's try to solve that problem. +1 -Ross.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update
Hey Susan, Sweet! Language. Information. Social niceties. Here is the link to the 2012 sponsor page. http://code4lib.org/node/417 (Anyone know how to make that a nicer url on drupal?) There seems to be discussion on expanding options for sponsorship, but the options on the page are standard. Thank you for the words. Hope that it turns out that you able to travel to Seattle for the conference. --Anj On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Susan Kane adarconsult...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Anj, Nice to see your name again after meeting briefly at UW when you were coming and I was leaving for Boston! I doubt I'll be able to attend the conference this year but I've put the word out to the group of Ex Libris and Endeavor alumni that I manage on LinkedIn. Many people now work for other library technology companies. Will let you know if anything useful comes back. Here's a copy of my promotional message, in case others on the list want to try their own networks. It might help our cause if someone could add a link about sponsorships to the conference section of the website. --- promotional blurb --- c4l -- code4lib is a unique conference that attracts a small but influential group of library technologists each year. Next year's conference is Feb 6-9, 2012 in Seattle, WA. They are still seeking vendor sponsorships -- great visibility with influential folks for a fraction of the cost of ALA! If you can help, please contact me privately through your preferred contact method here. http://code4lib.org/conference http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcode4lib%2Eorg%2Fconferenceurlhash=-Iyx_t=tracking_anet -- promotional blurb --- Susan Kane Harvard University OIS -- Anjanette Young | Systems Librarian University of Washington Libraries Box 352900 | Seattle, WA 98195 Phone: 206.616.2867
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Kevin S. Clarke kscla...@gmail.com wrote: What is the problem we're trying to solve again? Do we think that the recent conferences have cost too much for the attendees? That this year's will cost too much? Are we worried about not finding places to host in the future? Are we worried about needing the level of sponsorship that we currently do? I don't think the issue is the registration cost, but the total cost of the conference itself, which, minus sponsorship affects registration cost at some level. While any conference is going to need to be subsidized by the sponsorships to keep registration costs down to our (low!) satisfactory levels, it makes some sense to mitigate risk by having the conference in cheaper venues. Sponsorship, after all, is not a guarantee. -Ross.
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.
Just a heads up: I and about 5 other MLIS/MSIM students at the UW iSchool are very interested in helping. Looking forward to the event! Tod Robbins MLIS '12 Information School University of Washington
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.
More tales from DrupalCon-land... Before we professionalized our events, we had a competitive system like C4L. That was fine as long as we had one solid proposal. In 2008, the only proposal for out European event was from Szeged, Hungary, near the borders with Romania and Serbia, and a long way from anywhere mot westerners would like to fly in to. We drew 500 folks and broke even. 125 of them were from North America, so it really wasn't successful in terms of building our European community. Interestingly, hardly any of the Hungarian developers showed up. They had a bigger turnout in Barcelona, a year earlier. I don't think that C4L should professionalize its conference. Our needs and scale don't support that. I do think that It wouldn't be a bad idea to start planning two years out front. The primary attendee concern and single biggest budget item for DrupalCon is IP. We now hire Marriette Associates, the folks who do IP for Apple's WWDC, to manage our conference IP. We were fortunate in getting to do one event in a place with an open pipe, which gave us some great metrics and reduced the amount of guesswork going forward. This spring, we had our conference in a Chicago hotel that had great, '90s era service, so we put a point-to-point tower on the roof and did it ourselves. For the upcoming C4L, we looked at three venues and were very fortunate to find one that had sufficient bandwidth, decent infrastructure, and perhaps most importantly, a qualified tech. The other two were black holes. Since it is doubtful that, unless we want to sell a lot more sponsorships, we will be able to afford to run our own networks (although this is more doable in a single room event than on four floors of a hotel), moving the timeline out an extra year could be very helpful. Thanks, Cary On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Sean Hannan shan...@jhu.edu wrote: Honestly, I'm the most concerned that there was only one proposal last year. Let's try to solve that problem. -Sean On 6/15/11 1:46 PM, Kevin S. Clarke kscla...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: Heresy I know, but I wonder if we should change conf host/site selection from an open vote, to a conf selection committee that chooses. Then the committee could say to themselves you know, even though the hosts say no problem keeping costs as usual, we don't think an expensive city like that is the best thing for us. Of course, in addition to being heretical, that would rely on there being some people who wanted to fill that role, which there may not be. What is the problem we're trying to solve again? Do we think that the recent conferences have cost too much for the attendees? That this year's will cost too much? Are we worried about not finding places to host in the future? Are we worried about needing the level of sponsorship that we currently do? This seems, to me, like a solution in search of a problem. If we've trying to address the conference's relationship with its sponsors, Jaf's suggestion (e.g., define our expectations and see what happens) seems like a reasonable first step to me. Kevin -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update
One form of recognition that I think is almost a no brainer is a Sponsor page containing appropriately sized logos in sponsorship level order that has the sole purpose of recognizing the sponsors. A link to the sponsor page would be provided at the top of the conference page. This would be unobtrusive yet informative. I've missed the last few meetings, but a sponsor page in the packets when people arrive along the web page idea also seems like a decent idea as it helps make sponsors visible without being in the way. Only the Platinum would get to include a handout as well. Anything involving captive audiences sounds as unattractive as a timeshare presentation. Aside from being annoying, such situations disrupt exactly the sort of interaction we hope to achieve by meeting in person. As far as tables go, I am agnostic if space allows. But I suspect it would be better for the conference and vendors alike if they just participate and mix it up with other attendees rather sitting around somewhere handing out slick brochures. kyle On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.eduwrote: On 6/15/2011 12:51 PM, Susan Kane wrote: great visibility with influential folks for a fraction of the cost of ALA! That's an interesting point too -- you pay for a booth at ALA ($), you DO reach a whole lot of people, but it's a lot more expensive than even our 'platinum' sponsorship, no? And we're talking about giving people really even more exposure potentially (a presentation to a captive audience at a banquet?) then you get from a booth at ALA (albeit many fewer people). Depending on the site, if there's room in the registration area for a couple other tables, we could also offer sponsors a conference-long table to sit at and hand out stuff, if they wanted it. I don't know if they'd want it or not. But that would be a benefit unlikely to upset anyone. probably. -- -- Kyle Banerjee Digital Services Program Manager Orbis Cascade Alliance baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update
In a modern version of Drupal, you can set a path alias for any page. Unfortunately, C4L does not appear to be in a modern version of Drupal. It looks like 4.7 or earlier. I would be happy to volunteer to help manage it. Cary On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Anjanette Young youn...@u.washington.edu wrote: Hey Susan, Sweet! Language. Information. Social niceties. Here is the link to the 2012 sponsor page. http://code4lib.org/node/417 (Anyone know how to make that a nicer url on drupal?) There seems to be discussion on expanding options for sponsorship, but the options on the page are standard. Thank you for the words. Hope that it turns out that you able to travel to Seattle for the conference. --Anj On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Susan Kane adarconsult...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Anj, Nice to see your name again after meeting briefly at UW when you were coming and I was leaving for Boston! I doubt I'll be able to attend the conference this year but I've put the word out to the group of Ex Libris and Endeavor alumni that I manage on LinkedIn. Many people now work for other library technology companies. Will let you know if anything useful comes back. Here's a copy of my promotional message, in case others on the list want to try their own networks. It might help our cause if someone could add a link about sponsorships to the conference section of the website. --- promotional blurb --- c4l -- code4lib is a unique conference that attracts a small but influential group of library technologists each year. Next year's conference is Feb 6-9, 2012 in Seattle, WA. They are still seeking vendor sponsorships -- great visibility with influential folks for a fraction of the cost of ALA! If you can help, please contact me privately through your preferred contact method here. http://code4lib.org/conference http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcode4lib%2Eorg%2Fconferenceurlhash=-Iyx_t=tracking_anet -- promotional blurb --- Susan Kane Harvard University OIS -- Anjanette Young | Systems Librarian University of Washington Libraries Box 352900 | Seattle, WA 98195 Phone: 206.616.2867 -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update
i've got admin rights on the code4lib drupal, so i went ahead and set the alias: http://code4lib.org/code4lib_2012_sponsorship cary: i'll look into getting you the correct privileges. you're highermath, correct? cheers, rob On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote: In a modern version of Drupal, you can set a path alias for any page. Unfortunately, C4L does not appear to be in a modern version of Drupal. It looks like 4.7 or earlier. I would be happy to volunteer to help manage it. Cary On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Anjanette Young youn...@u.washington.edu wrote: Hey Susan, Sweet! Language. Information. Social niceties. Here is the link to the 2012 sponsor page. http://code4lib.org/node/417 (Anyone know how to make that a nicer url on drupal?) There seems to be discussion on expanding options for sponsorship, but the options on the page are standard. Thank you for the words. Hope that it turns out that you able to travel to Seattle for the conference. --Anj On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Susan Kane adarconsult...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Anj, Nice to see your name again after meeting briefly at UW when you were coming and I was leaving for Boston! I doubt I'll be able to attend the conference this year but I've put the word out to the group of Ex Libris and Endeavor alumni that I manage on LinkedIn. Many people now work for other library technology companies. Will let you know if anything useful comes back. Here's a copy of my promotional message, in case others on the list want to try their own networks. It might help our cause if someone could add a link about sponsorships to the conference section of the website. --- promotional blurb --- c4l -- code4lib is a unique conference that attracts a small but influential group of library technologists each year. Next year's conference is Feb 6-9, 2012 in Seattle, WA. They are still seeking vendor sponsorships -- great visibility with influential folks for a fraction of the cost of ALA! If you can help, please contact me privately through your preferred contact method here. http://code4lib.org/conference http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcode4lib%2Eorg%2Fconferenceurlhash=-Iyx_t=tracking_anet -- promotional blurb --- Susan Kane Harvard University OIS -- Anjanette Young | Systems Librarian University of Washington Libraries Box 352900 | Seattle, WA 98195 Phone: 206.616.2867 -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update
That's me! It is probably a good time to move this to a newer version, perhaps Drupal 7, if for no other reason than security. The only downside is that the theme would either need to be recreated or change. No biggy, really. If someone wants to send me the code and a DB dump, I will do it in my less-than-ample spare time. Cary On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Rob Casson rob.cas...@gmail.com wrote: i've got admin rights on the code4lib drupal, so i went ahead and set the alias: http://code4lib.org/code4lib_2012_sponsorship cary: i'll look into getting you the correct privileges. you're highermath, correct? cheers, rob On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote: In a modern version of Drupal, you can set a path alias for any page. Unfortunately, C4L does not appear to be in a modern version of Drupal. It looks like 4.7 or earlier. I would be happy to volunteer to help manage it. Cary On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Anjanette Young youn...@u.washington.edu wrote: Hey Susan, Sweet! Language. Information. Social niceties. Here is the link to the 2012 sponsor page. http://code4lib.org/node/417 (Anyone know how to make that a nicer url on drupal?) There seems to be discussion on expanding options for sponsorship, but the options on the page are standard. Thank you for the words. Hope that it turns out that you able to travel to Seattle for the conference. --Anj On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Susan Kane adarconsult...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Anj, Nice to see your name again after meeting briefly at UW when you were coming and I was leaving for Boston! I doubt I'll be able to attend the conference this year but I've put the word out to the group of Ex Libris and Endeavor alumni that I manage on LinkedIn. Many people now work for other library technology companies. Will let you know if anything useful comes back. Here's a copy of my promotional message, in case others on the list want to try their own networks. It might help our cause if someone could add a link about sponsorships to the conference section of the website. --- promotional blurb --- c4l -- code4lib is a unique conference that attracts a small but influential group of library technologists each year. Next year's conference is Feb 6-9, 2012 in Seattle, WA. They are still seeking vendor sponsorships -- great visibility with influential folks for a fraction of the cost of ALA! If you can help, please contact me privately through your preferred contact method here. http://code4lib.org/conference http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcode4lib%2Eorg%2Fconferenceurlhash=-Iyx_t=tracking_anet -- promotional blurb --- Susan Kane Harvard University OIS -- Anjanette Young | Systems Librarian University of Washington Libraries Box 352900 | Seattle, WA 98195 Phone: 206.616.2867 -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update
Thanks for offering to help. I agree about the need to upgrade, and this is a pretty quiet time to do so. I'm guessing the theme will need to be done from scratch. It was already cobbled together. I'll try and send you some more information later today. If anyone else really wants in on this, let me know. Ryan Wick -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cary Gordon Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:31 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update That's me! It is probably a good time to move this to a newer version, perhaps Drupal 7, if for no other reason than security. The only downside is that the theme would either need to be recreated or change. No biggy, really. If someone wants to send me the code and a DB dump, I will do it in my less-than-ample spare time. Cary On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Rob Casson rob.cas...@gmail.com wrote: i've got admin rights on the code4lib drupal, so i went ahead and set the alias: http://code4lib.org/code4lib_2012_sponsorship cary: i'll look into getting you the correct privileges. you're highermath, correct? cheers, rob On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote: In a modern version of Drupal, you can set a path alias for any page. Unfortunately, C4L does not appear to be in a modern version of Drupal. It looks like 4.7 or earlier. I would be happy to volunteer to help manage it. Cary On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Anjanette Young youn...@u.washington.edu wrote: Hey Susan, Sweet! Language. Information. Social niceties. Here is the link to the 2012 sponsor page. http://code4lib.org/node/417 (Anyone know how to make that a nicer url on drupal?) There seems to be discussion on expanding options for sponsorship, but the options on the page are standard. Thank you for the words. Hope that it turns out that you able to travel to Seattle for the conference. --Anj On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Susan Kane adarconsult...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Anj, Nice to see your name again after meeting briefly at UW when you were coming and I was leaving for Boston! I doubt I'll be able to attend the conference this year but I've put the word out to the group of Ex Libris and Endeavor alumni that I manage on LinkedIn. Many people now work for other library technology companies. Will let you know if anything useful comes back. Here's a copy of my promotional message, in case others on the list want to try their own networks. It might help our cause if someone could add a link about sponsorships to the conference section of the website. --- promotional blurb --- c4l -- code4lib is a unique conference that attracts a small but influential group of library technologists each year. Next year's conference is Feb 6-9, 2012 in Seattle, WA. They are still seeking vendor sponsorships -- great visibility with influential folks for a fraction of the cost of ALA! If you can help, please contact me privately through your preferred contact method here. http://code4lib.org/conference http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcode4lib%2Eorg%2F conferenceurlhash=-Iyx_t=tracking_anet -- promotional blurb --- Susan Kane Harvard University OIS -- Anjanette Young | Systems Librarian University of Washington Libraries Box 352900 | Seattle, WA 98195 Phone: 206.616.2867 -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update
The theme looks like a minor hack of the Chameleon theme, so it should not be difficult to reproduce. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Wick, Ryan ryan.w...@oregonstate.edu wrote: Thanks for offering to help. I agree about the need to upgrade, and this is a pretty quiet time to do so. I'm guessing the theme will need to be done from scratch. It was already cobbled together. I'll try and send you some more information later today. If anyone else really wants in on this, let me know. Ryan Wick -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cary Gordon Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:31 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update That's me! It is probably a good time to move this to a newer version, perhaps Drupal 7, if for no other reason than security. The only downside is that the theme would either need to be recreated or change. No biggy, really. If someone wants to send me the code and a DB dump, I will do it in my less-than-ample spare time. Cary On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Rob Casson rob.cas...@gmail.com wrote: i've got admin rights on the code4lib drupal, so i went ahead and set the alias: http://code4lib.org/code4lib_2012_sponsorship cary: i'll look into getting you the correct privileges. you're highermath, correct? cheers, rob On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote: In a modern version of Drupal, you can set a path alias for any page. Unfortunately, C4L does not appear to be in a modern version of Drupal. It looks like 4.7 or earlier. I would be happy to volunteer to help manage it. Cary On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Anjanette Young youn...@u.washington.edu wrote: Hey Susan, Sweet! Language. Information. Social niceties. Here is the link to the 2012 sponsor page. http://code4lib.org/node/417 (Anyone know how to make that a nicer url on drupal?) There seems to be discussion on expanding options for sponsorship, but the options on the page are standard. Thank you for the words. Hope that it turns out that you able to travel to Seattle for the conference. --Anj On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Susan Kane adarconsult...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Anj, Nice to see your name again after meeting briefly at UW when you were coming and I was leaving for Boston! I doubt I'll be able to attend the conference this year but I've put the word out to the group of Ex Libris and Endeavor alumni that I manage on LinkedIn. Many people now work for other library technology companies. Will let you know if anything useful comes back. Here's a copy of my promotional message, in case others on the list want to try their own networks. It might help our cause if someone could add a link about sponsorships to the conference section of the website. --- promotional blurb --- c4l -- code4lib is a unique conference that attracts a small but influential group of library technologists each year. Next year's conference is Feb 6-9, 2012 in Seattle, WA. They are still seeking vendor sponsorships -- great visibility with influential folks for a fraction of the cost of ALA! If you can help, please contact me privately through your preferred contact method here. http://code4lib.org/conference http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcode4lib%2Eorg%2F conferenceurlhash=-Iyx_t=tracking_anet -- promotional blurb --- Susan Kane Harvard University OIS -- Anjanette Young | Systems Librarian University of Washington Libraries Box 352900 | Seattle, WA 98195 Phone: 206.616.2867 -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update
I doubt anyone is particularly wedded to the particularities of the current theme. It probably doesn't matter, as long as you can put the code4lib logo at the top with a banner-menu, if the theme changes, even significantly. As long as it has pretty much the same functionality exposed that it has now (and even that probably isn't that carefully thought out). On 6/15/2011 4:23 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: The theme looks like a minor hack of the Chameleon theme, so it should not be difficult to reproduce. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Wick, Ryanryan.w...@oregonstate.edu wrote: Thanks for offering to help. I agree about the need to upgrade, and this is a pretty quiet time to do so. I'm guessing the theme will need to be done from scratch. It was already cobbled together. I'll try and send you some more information later today. If anyone else really wants in on this, let me know. Ryan Wick -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cary Gordon Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:31 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update That's me! It is probably a good time to move this to a newer version, perhaps Drupal 7, if for no other reason than security. The only downside is that the theme would either need to be recreated or change. No biggy, really. If someone wants to send me the code and a DB dump, I will do it in my less-than-ample spare time. Cary On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Rob Cassonrob.cas...@gmail.com wrote: i've got admin rights on the code4lib drupal, so i went ahead and set the alias: http://code4lib.org/code4lib_2012_sponsorship cary: i'll look into getting you the correct privileges. you're highermath, correct? cheers, rob On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Cary Gordonlistu...@chillco.com wrote: In a modern version of Drupal, you can set a path alias for any page. Unfortunately, C4L does not appear to be in a modern version of Drupal. It looks like 4.7 or earlier. I would be happy to volunteer to help manage it. Cary On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Anjanette Young youn...@u.washington.edu wrote: Hey Susan, Sweet! Language. Information. Social niceties. Here is the link to the 2012 sponsor page. http://code4lib.org/node/417 (Anyone know how to make that a nicer url on drupal?) There seems to be discussion on expanding options for sponsorship, but the options on the page are standard. Thank you for the words. Hope that it turns out that you able to travel to Seattle for the conference. --Anj On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Susan Kaneadarconsult...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Anj, Nice to see your name again after meeting briefly at UW when you were coming and I was leaving for Boston! I doubt I'll be able to attend the conference this year but I've put the word out to the group of Ex Libris and Endeavor alumni that I manage on LinkedIn. Many people now work for other library technology companies. Will let you know if anything useful comes back. Here's a copy of my promotional message, in case others on the list want to try their own networks. It might help our cause if someone could add a link about sponsorships to the conference section of the website. --- promotional blurb --- c4l -- code4lib is a unique conference that attracts a small but influential group of library technologists each year. Next year's conference is Feb 6-9, 2012 in Seattle, WA. They are still seeking vendor sponsorships -- great visibility with influential folks for a fraction of the cost of ALA! If you can help, please contact me privately through your preferred contact method here. http://code4lib.org/conference http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcode4lib%2Eorg%2F conferenceurlhash=-Iyx_t=tracking_anet -- promotional blurb --- Susan Kane Harvard University OIS -- Anjanette Young | Systems Librarian University of Washington Libraries Box 352900 | Seattle, WA 98195 Phone: 206.616.2867 -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] JHU integration of PD works
On 6/15/2011 5:43 PM, Peter Noerr wrote: And it is available - in our commercial software (not a plug - we don't sell it, just noting that it is not the sort of thing to try yourself on any scale - it takes a lot of resources). I wouldn't go that far -- I _have_ done it myself, at the examples we're talking about in this thread! My implementation certainly isn't perfect, but it's 'good enough' that we're getting lots of value added from using it. (My implementation is software originally written by Ross Singer, 5 years ago or more. It hasn't received 5 years worth of development, it hasn't gotten much development in the past 2-3 years, it's mostly just been continuing to work--although I've got plenty of ideas for improvements I haven't had time to do. But yes, it took a couple smart people a buncha time to implement, but we did it.) But I agree it's tricky, because the devil is in the details, having done it myself too. The Umlaut software is designed as a 'just in time'/'last mile' service provider, providing access points and services from local and remote platforms, for known items. You find an item of interest in some other interface, that has structured citation metadata, this is passed to Umlaut to provide those just-in-time last-mile services. Umlaut is intentionally designed to make it as easy as possible to embed Umlaut discovered services on local interfaces, like the catalog for instance. If you can add javascript to your catalog, you can figure out how to make the javascript obtain structured citation data from the current page (esp ISBN/ISSN/LCCN/OCLCnum), and you can write JQuery selectors to describe where each section of Umlaut content should be placed on the page (and maybe some CSS to style it appropriately) -- then you can have Umlaut content added via Javascript to your catalog item detail pages. Umlaut is open source. But Umlaut isn't as easy to install/configure as I'd like it to be and know it can be. It is nevertheless currently in use not only at JHU (where I, the lead developer reside), but to one extent or another also at NYU and Vanderbilt. But I've got plans to make it a lot easier, hopefully sometime in the next 6 months. If this interests you, keep an eye out. No matter how easy I make it, it'll probably never be Just Works Out of the Box, it's going to require a bit of local technical development to integrate it with all your local systems in the way you want. So anyway, it's very tricky -- but I've got open source software that's _doing_ it, which while not perfect works well enough to provide significant improvement to your library offerings. I've been frustrated at not being able to explain to people why what Umlaut does is exciting and important in the first place, perhaps this thread will help. (Or perhaps I am under-estimating people's interest, maybe they are interested, but Umlaut is currently just too hard to to install and setup. I've got plans!). Jonathan
[CODE4LIB] Institutional Repository Bibliography, Version 4
Version four of the Institutional Repository Bibliography is now available from Digital Scholarship. This selective bibliography presents over 500 articles, books, technical reports, and other scholarly textual sources that are useful in understanding institutional repositories (see the scope note for details). All included works are in English. It is available under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 United States License. http://digital-scholarship.org/irb/irb.html The bibliography has the following sections (all sections have been updated except 3 Multiple-Institution Repositories): 1 General 2 Country and Regional Surveys 3 Multiple-Institution Repositories 4 Specific Institutional Repositories 5 Digital Preservation 6 Library Issues 7 Metadata 8 Institutional Open Access Mandates and Policies 9 RD Projects 10 Research Studies 11 Software 12 Electronic Theses and Dissertations Appendix A. Related Bibliographies Appendix B. About the Author Translate (oversatta, oversette, prelozit, traducir, traduire, tradurre, traduzir, or ubersetzen): http://digital-scholarship.org/announce/irb_en_4.htm -- Best Regards, Charles Charles W. Bailey, Jr. Publisher, Digital Scholarship http://digital-scholarship.org/ A Look Back at 22 Years as an Open Access Publisher http://digital-scholarship.org/cwb/22/22years.htm
[CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Volunteers
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:35 PM, todd.d.robb...@gmail.com todd.d.robb...@gmail.com wrote: Just a heads up: I and about 5 other MLIS/MSIM students at the UW iSchool are very interested in helping. Looking forward to the event! Todd.D.Robbins_and_about_5_other_MLIS/MSIM_students_at_the_UW_iSchool++ Feel free to put your name here: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/2012_committees_sign-up_page :-) thanks, ranti. -- Bulk mail. Postage paid.
[CODE4LIB] LITA ALA Session: Identity Management (IdM) and Libraries - Monday, June 27, 2011 - 10:30am
*** With apologies for cross-posting *** http://connect.ala.org/node/137557 LITA ALA Session: Identity Management (IdM) and Libraries: What You Need to Know‹Why You Need to Care When: Monday, June 27, 2011 - 10:30am - 12:00pm Location: Convention Center - Rm 288-290 Presenters: Don Hamparian, OCLC Frances McNamara, University of Chicago Monique Sendze, Douglas County Libraries Description: In this panel session you will learn how libraries are developing Identity Management (IdM) strategies utilizing Shibboleth and other federated authentication and authorization systems. IdM allows for seamless and secure collaboration and resource sharing among institutions, scholars, publishers, and electronic resource vendors. Topics will include: Concepts of Identity Management; Benefits of having an IdM strategy; Components of an IdM system, Overview of the InCommon Federation, Examples of IdM systems in action. --- Stu Baker Northwestern University Library mailto:stuba...@northwestern.edu
